The real show starts about 25:00 if you want to skip all the BS. Bret Hart has the be in the conversation as the greatest of all-time. He could have wrestled in any era. To me, 1997 was Bret's best year and it should have been the Bret-Shawn rematch but due to HBK's backstage politics, the match never occurred. At the end of the day, it worked out because of Steve Austin. Everything in life happens for a reason.
Bret Hart was the reason I started to love wrestling and when he left I lost interest now I just rewatch all the 90's Bret Hart classics. Only reason I bother with the network. He made it all look and feel real.
For me no one else but maybe Chris Benoit being 2nd could make it all look legit and real like Bret did. But Mania 13 with Austin was a 5 star classic and Hall Of Fame performance (both men) from Hitman, the work both in the ring and psychology wise with in one match turning a crowd against you and have them root for the Heel & cheer Stone Cold. He even bladed Austin himself and had everyone thinking it was the hard way.
I remember that time and before Stone Cold was huge Brett was the man. We all loved him. The excellence of execution. After his heel run, everyone loved Bret hart. He was my favorite wrestler at the time
I hate that comment by Shawn 1 hour 28 minutes in. Yes Shawn did root for Bret when he got the big belt because Bret opened the door for smaller better athletes not named Flair or Savage to become champs, but where HBK is dead wrong is when he said it was his turn and Bret kicked and screamed the whole time. That comment is fucking ridiculous. Hart let Shawn pin him clean, dead center of the ring. Go look at the 10 previous times the WWF world title changed hands, then go look at the next 10 times that belt changed hands, there was always some bs distraction or interference that was the reason, Yoko and Hart, Yokozuna and Hogan (both title changes with those guys), there was always some weird finish, Backland and Hart, Diesel and Hart, Sid and Hart, Hogan and anyone not named Warrior, etc. Flair did the honors the proper way, he lost clean to Hart, then Hart had a period where the belt was always in limbo, even if he was champ. But it comes down to one hour, WM 12, Hart lost clean for him, how in the fuck is that kicking and screaming?
1:09:50-To be fair to Sid (and Bret is my ALL TIME favorite wrestler) Bret told Sid, “I should be the Champion and you know if.” So thats why Sid said “I dont know shit.”
@@HereIsWisdom1318 ah, I was talking about the tripping part. In the video you can hear him say I told ya when the trip happened, and Stevie Ray said the same thing, that he warned the crew it's gonna happen cause of the 2x4 they put on the wall earlier in the day.
I watched as much of this as I could during the premier. Bret was one of, and arguably the best ring technician, and story teller of all time. He wasn't a giant, but big enough to hold his own, and he just looked fantastic on n the ring. Hold for hold brilliant. He was such a natural it always looked and felt real. Because it was. When people say Bret wasn't "charasmatic" enough or his promos lacked, it's because it wasn't a show, or a character. Bret was Bret. And he was the best because of it.
He's up there but he's not really close to Hogan and Flair...they were leaps and bounds ahead if Bret...Shawn Michaels is above Bret too but Bret is definitely in the top 25
Bret made it look as real as any wrestler ever have. He had the psychology of it all down to a science & technically pulled off his repitoire of moves to perfection every night. The back breaker, 2nd rope elbow drop, the Russian leg sweep. Even when he was selling his facial expressions sold it beautifully & how he took that turnbuckle bump always going in forward where as everyone else usually too that to the back. The sell of the impact of hitting the turnbuckle was always spot on.
Bret Hart was a once in a lifetime performer. His technical ability, connection with the fans, facial expressions and selling, and his unbelievable run as a heel in '96 to '97. I believe that Steve Austin eventually would have found his way to the top of the mountain, but that double turn at WrestleMania 13 put him firmly at the front of the line with the stars of that time. That being said, here's a toast to the greatest of all time, the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. Who's your daddy, Montreal? 😂😂
I mean I honestly say in my generation of wrestling the best would have to be either Shawn or Brett, they were both do different an both do awesome in their own ways. They don't make em like that anymore
Haha, I'm a little partial to Shawn because I'm a Texan. But really either could be the right answer. When it really comes down to it, instead of saying number one or two, it's 1a or 1b.
I can remember starting to like Bret Hart when he started being featured as a singles star around 1991. It’s when he started to put the sun glasses on the kids in the front row. I then soon started to realize I liked his in ring wrestling as well. Even as a dumb kid who liked Hulk and Warrior I was able to see there was something special about Bret
@@briansolo That things stop being private business when they're discussed publicly in UA-cam videos five times a week and announced on national television for three straight months. Dude loves collecting sympathy for his **CANCER** between cigarettes. JR's a fucking idiot.
55:50-I always saw the figure four around the pole as a move where you cant count the person (in this case, Bret) out because he’s engaging with the opponent.
JR called the Championship title a "f*cking prop." Just a handful of yrs ago hearing JR say something like that would have been unheard of. JR sure has become crusty & grumpy in his old age
So many different things during 1997 were just done wrong. Even with the Shawn vs Bret rematch at WrestleMania 13 not gonna happen, Sid vs Undertaker wasn't the right choice for the main event. But I guess Shawn "not being able to compete" messed up everything.
Hey JR hope you are feeling better. I felt the need to remind you that most people now a days don't get the option to take some pain pills. I've dealt with severe chronic pain since I was 23, I'm now 35 everyday is a nightmare because these quack doctors are more afraid of explaining themselves to the DEA than to actually care about the pain their patients are in. At least you have a doctor that cares about how much pain you are in, I promise you the other way around leads to some very dark days my friend. Hope you are doing better!
Conrad meant to say Wrestlemania 12, not 16, I think he meant to refer to Shawn Michaels the person as Shawn Michaels (not "Wrestlemania 13"). Also Conrad meant Jim Neidhart, not "Jimmy Hart". Rough episode so far, I have about 40 minutes left lol.
In a helluva career Bret was never better and working a Hall Of Fame match and character turn (double turn w Austin) at Mania 13. Can’t put that over enough how great it all was, can’t get enough accolades and be talked about.
On the episode where Vince was revealed as the owner I literally remember thinking wow they finally said it. I grew up in the Northeast close to Allentown, where they went to the area once a month for years. So my family all new WWF and wwwf wrestling and everything about it we just loved it. My grandfather and uncles love to tell stories where they went to the bar where Andre hung out after the matches and the wacky things he did cuz he was so big. And no matter how much he ate he washed it down with whiskey
At the time there was a lot of rumor and innuendo that Yokozuna could work his way back up/onto the card if he got into better shape and join the Hart Foundation. Does anyone know how much validity that rumor had?
I disagree. He should have carried the same story as the Canadian anti-hero, and formed a new stable, the hitmen with Benoit, Jericho, himself and Davy boy, and anybody else who was from Canada.
No, he should have been against the nwo. Which actually at 1st he was. Wcw had no clue what to do when hogan and flair were basically in charge. Bret should have never been forced to go to wcw in the 1st place just to let hbk have the wwf spotlight after stone cold and hitmans match. . And sting also should have never wrestled in wwe/f. But what the fuck do we know? I never worked for either company and im sure you didnt either.
Bruce Hart is currently having a major resurgence in popularity and has reached new heights in popularity thanks to OSW Review putting Bruce over! Bruce could win hall of fame in OSW at this year's Golden Noggers award show (although there is stiff competition from Mo) on their next episode of OSW! V1 has made Bruce the world champion on 2K22 on Twitch. Bruce Hart is king boy right now! The WWF made a huge mistake not bringing Bruce back during this time period! He would have have been a game changer in the factions wars!
Two things I always thought Bret would have been amazing at: 1. NWA champion back in the day when it was all of wrestling (eg time travel prime bret to the 70s etc) . 2. A booker. Bret has an incredible mind for booking and no one ever used it . Ill never get why. As i have said elswhere i think theres greater wrestlers like shawn and flair but EVERY wrestler should aspire to be like Bret,
Nothing is ficticious when it takes you a life time to achieve it. Jr never had to spend 20 years trying to get a championship. He's out of line there.
It’s no secret that Bret Hart did not like the edgy direction. The WWF was going during the time he was even on the Canadian channel TSN talking about how the WWF was becoming too much like the Howard Stern show as a pro wrestling technician. He did not see himself as an entertainer like Vince wanted him to be. This is why Vince didn’t want him in the WWF anymore Vince basically saw Steve Austin Shawn, Michaels the undertaker and mankind as the future of the company during that time this is why he screwed Bret at the 1997 Survivor series he didn’t see Bret as a top draw he was more focused on sports entertainment than an actual professional wrestling
Some of the best shows I've seen were in 1997, and not just because I was relatively new to WWE. So much "new" feeling stuff, each show seemed to leave me wanting more and wishing there was more than just Raw every week. I even stayed up for Shotgun Saturday Night - when it was actually on. JR is right - things are a lot more interesting when there's "shades of grey" in stories.
I think shades of grey works when it makes sense. Everyone face on top had a legitimate gripe with another babyface and their means of addressing said gripe or achieving their goals came across as heelish. If people are emotionally invested and the characters began as established faces (or heels) it works. Outside of those conditions, it's bogus.
Bret Hart was one of the greatest heels there’s ever been. It amazes me that WCW didn’t know what to do with him after the 97 he’d had with WWF. I think the Montréal screw job was a work, it’s just that only certain people knew certain things and each had a different role to play. No company is going to let their top guy join a rival promotion and take the title with him.
In the late 90's ...RVD was the most gifted wrestler ever. If wwe let him do a few matches with no restrictions like he did in ECW , he would be regarded as much as Bret, Shawn and Flair for having the greatest matches. Imagine if he got to face Jerey Lynn, Sabu or Lance Storm for 25 minutes of whatever he wanted to do at a Wrestlemania. The match would have been as highly regarded as Bret vs Austin at mania. Here's what I'm getting at: imagine if Bret had a 25 minute ppv match with RVD in 97, 98 or 99.. with Bret as heel. Damn.., those 2 minds together. 1997 Bret was the most believable heel ever, for me.
J.R. say's both Sean Michaels + Bret Hart were to blame for their feud + couldn't see one not being any more responsible than the other it was 50/50 to him, yet he claims he was more friendly with Bret as a buddy that comment seems like he was trying to stay neutral + was definitely not taking sides by calling them both juveniles with attitudes, but from another persons point of view on hearing this story and providing the level + incidents were accurate in the order that was mentioned in this interview also with eyewitnesses included, both versions of the feud differed from each of their book statements to start with the Sunny Days personal comment on T.V.was not scripted nor okayed with anybody + a very big deal to openly say, that is what you call character assassination, public slander, + deformation, it caused problems in Harts marriage + dragging other people into the mix + another thing that J.R. overlooked was Bret tried to talk it out first with Michaels a couple of times about their problem + was shut down for it, not once did Michaels try to work things out in the locker room confrontations + he's also just as guilty on the striking out part by taking a swing at Bret, at the same time Sean claims it was an unsafe working environment which he's also responsible for as well + should not have gone running to Vince over it because he also escalated the situation by punching at Bret, Sean Michaels made some major mistakes in this conflict + should have handled it differently with the communication aspect way before the level of the Sunny Days put down, you just don't say something like that + then not expect retaliation back them were fighting words + Michaels should have stepped up to the presented challenge that was given out or else kept his mouth shut from the very start.
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind maybe so? But I do have respect for the entertainment. I think honestly I just missed his run. I think I got into wrestling with the nwo. And attitude area which he was kinda kinda a douce
Let’s all be realistic after the spring of 2001 wrestling was never the same and it never will reach those dramatic heights as it did in the late 90s. This is why I don’t watch it no more
I think it’s possible for every single thing about Bret is a work even to this day. The screw job booking and everything else even his injury story. Maybe. He wanted to retire and was like you know I’m committed to this role that I can kayfabe these things for the rest of my life. What if?
I'd say the WWF was never the same when Bret left but I stopped watching so I wouldn't know. I still think Vince is a little light in the loafers. He pushed the male stripper gimmick over a guy who was there way longer and much more respected.
Even though wrestling (wwe) got better after bret left, if michaels got replaced by bret and shawn left. I feel wrestling would of been even better than it was, and could of made wrestling great still today. I feel like the biggest wrestling downfalls were who vince chose to push or get over as the “big” guy. Austin was the only still successful push. Everyone else is trash or mehhh
I thought Bret was a great champion plus he left me hold the winged eagle belt for a minute out back of a house show when I met him he was very very nice that was just before Yoko got it
I call bullshyte on the whole him turning bad, when he first came into the WWF his first years there he was a heel. This thing about how he was go against the fans, come on he was a heel then a baby face.
I'm listening to this a week after the fact of the "Royal Rumble" and i have to laugh. I grew up listening to JR. d oing commentary back in the early to mid 90s and no one besides him, Lawler, and even Vince sounds nearly as good or at home on the commentary mic as those 3 in WWE/WWF. Just like Tony Shavoni (misspelled name sorry) The Brain Bobby Heenan and Larry Zybizco are the 3 in WCW that sound really right and at home to me. Anyway what I have to laugh about is that they went on for 10 to 15 minutes about how they would find it highly unlikely to have Ronda not only but win it...Which obviously she did. But what was really funny that was talked about was them drawing comparison to her and being the demale Brock Lesnar. Which other than HIM starting his career in WWF and then going to UFC and back to the federation she obviously started in the UFC then came to the WWE. But she is the woman you without a doubt know could beat you down.... with ease. Then after they say no way and that they will start someone on a new run both those "ass kicker giants in the sport win.
JR be like you know we had burgers and steaks but you know what Conrad.. the burger had get over.. and that's what it's all about .. it's a top burger Conrad
Jr. Funny how you keep smoking those cancer sticks after what you just went through. If your leg hurts so bad what do you think your lungs will feel like after treatment ?
Bret was a legend in his own mind. By far the most overrated performer ever. When he was champ they couldn't sell out high school gyms. Vince Mcmahon couldn't wait to get rid of his ass and had to screw him on a live ppv to get the fuck rid of his ass.
As ridiculous and simply absurd a take as I've ever seen on here. You are obviously not a fan, fine. But your rhetoric is so far off base its amazing you call yourself a wrestling fan. OMG, such nonsense.
ruane be quiet no one believes u or your nonsense. Michaels is one of the lowest rated champions ever. Facts. Bret Hart was and remains a legend. He kept WWFgoing during thier dark years 93-95.
@@rockyruane9379 Bischoff and WCW didnt use him right thats why. Hart was the hottest free agent in wrestling in 1997 and the 5 man Hart Foundation was amazing. Meekmahan lied and said he didnt have the money to sign him when he gave him a 20 year deal then went back.
Bret didnt turn heel, people were tired of him and started turning against him and in favor of Stone Cold organically Stone Cold made Bret then when he left to WCW, no one watched lol, shocker
The title is not just a prop. It’s a representation of the best talent of that time.
The real show starts about 25:00 if you want to skip all the BS. Bret Hart has the be in the conversation as the greatest of all-time. He could have wrestled in any era. To me, 1997 was Bret's best year and it should have been the Bret-Shawn rematch but due to HBK's backstage politics, the match never occurred. At the end of the day, it worked out because of Steve Austin. Everything in life happens for a reason.
Thanks for the time stamp
@@jond2458 No problem, Jon.
MVP
Thanks.
THANK YOU!
Bret Hart was the reason I started to love wrestling and when he left I lost interest now I just rewatch all the 90's Bret Hart classics. Only reason I bother with the network. He made it all look and feel real.
For me no one else but maybe Chris Benoit being 2nd could make it all look legit and real like Bret did. But Mania 13 with Austin was a 5 star classic and Hall Of Fame performance (both men) from Hitman, the work both in the ring and psychology wise with in one match turning a crowd against you and have them root for the Heel & cheer Stone Cold. He even bladed Austin himself and had everyone thinking it was the hard way.
Once I grew old enough to see through hulks bs...Bret became my favorite all time was a fan tag team to singles glory
Same!
The Best there is, the best there was, THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE.
Great show. More Hart podcasts please.
The actual podcast begins at about 26:30
I listen to Jim Ross talk about the weather.
Youre the real hero.
Thank you
thanks, the first 5 min of old jr whining should've been cut.
@@packofjokers and Conrad sell his business
Thank you jr for always showing bret respect
Bret's 97 is equal to any greatest wrestlers best ever year. He was simply at the top of his game that year. An amazing run.
I remember that time and before Stone Cold was huge Brett was the man. We all loved him. The excellence of execution. After his heel run, everyone loved Bret hart. He was my favorite wrestler at the time
I love this show. Happy to hear JR got over cancer. Huge fan of Jim Ross
I hate that comment by Shawn 1 hour 28 minutes in. Yes Shawn did root for Bret when he got the big belt because Bret opened the door for smaller better athletes not named Flair or Savage to become champs, but where HBK is dead wrong is when he said it was his turn and Bret kicked and screamed the whole time. That comment is fucking ridiculous. Hart let Shawn pin him clean, dead center of the ring. Go look at the 10 previous times the WWF world title changed hands, then go look at the next 10 times that belt changed hands, there was always some bs distraction or interference that was the reason, Yoko and Hart, Yokozuna and Hogan (both title changes with those guys), there was always some weird finish, Backland and Hart, Diesel and Hart, Sid and Hart, Hogan and anyone not named Warrior, etc. Flair did the honors the proper way, he lost clean to Hart, then Hart had a period where the belt was always in limbo, even if he was champ. But it comes down to one hour, WM 12, Hart lost clean for him, how in the fuck is that kicking and screaming?
1:09:50-To be fair to Sid (and Bret is my ALL TIME favorite wrestler) Bret told Sid, “I should be the Champion and you know if.” So thats why Sid said “I dont know shit.”
He knew what would happen to the shockmaster tho.
@@jellydamgood How did he know? lol
@@HereIsWisdom1318 ah, I was talking about the tripping part. In the video you can hear him say I told ya when the trip happened, and Stevie Ray said the same thing, that he warned the crew it's gonna happen cause of the 2x4 they put on the wall earlier in the day.
I watched as much of this as I could during the premier. Bret was one of, and arguably the best ring technician, and story teller of all time. He wasn't a giant, but big enough to hold his own, and he just looked fantastic on n the ring. Hold for hold brilliant. He was such a natural it always looked and felt real. Because it was. When people say Bret wasn't "charasmatic" enough or his promos lacked, it's because it wasn't a show, or a character. Bret was Bret. And he was the best because of it.
He's up there but he's not really close to Hogan and Flair...they were leaps and bounds ahead if Bret...Shawn Michaels is above Bret too but Bret is definitely in the top 25
Bret made it look as real as any wrestler ever have. He had the psychology of it all down to a science & technically pulled off his repitoire of moves to perfection every night. The back breaker, 2nd rope elbow drop, the Russian leg sweep. Even when he was selling his facial expressions sold it beautifully & how he took that turnbuckle bump always going in forward where as everyone else usually too that to the back. The sell of the impact of hitting the turnbuckle was always spot on.
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind Bret Hart is a better technical wrestler than michaels
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind Bret Hart is top 10 all time and top 3 in technical wrestlers.
Amazing work guys! This all makes me wonder….Bret kicked off the attitude era in 97 👏
I’d say the attitude era was started by Austin and Pullman in 96. Bret inadvertently created the McMahon character
@@johnnydoe6717 dunno about that, Bret did make Austin though, great times 👌
@@johnnydoe6717 The Austin-Pillman segment was beyond Attitude, and not in a good way-not that i thought it was had. It was just….something else.
@@HereIsWisdom1318 not even the segment. I just felt the style of their characters were different
Bret Hart was a once in a lifetime performer. His technical ability, connection with the fans, facial expressions and selling, and his unbelievable run as a heel in '96 to '97. I believe that Steve Austin eventually would have found his way to the top of the mountain, but that double turn at WrestleMania 13 put him firmly at the front of the line with the stars of that time. That being said, here's a toast to the greatest of all time, the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. Who's your daddy, Montreal? 😂😂
I mean I honestly say in my generation of wrestling the best would have to be either Shawn or Brett, they were both do different an both do awesome in their own ways. They don't make em like that anymore
Haha, I'm a little partial to Shawn because I'm a Texan. But really either could be the right answer. When it really comes down to it, instead of saying number one or two, it's 1a or 1b.
lmao at the swerve at the end... hitman = goat.... although, i was a hbk mark as a kid...
@@Necropantz - nicely put. Agreed.
Bret > Shawn
I can remember starting to like Bret Hart when he started being featured as a singles star around 1991. It’s when he started to put the sun glasses on the kids in the front row. I then soon started to realize I liked his in ring wrestling as well. Even as a dumb kid who liked Hulk and Warrior I was able to see there was something special about Bret
You just don't have the...the JAM!
Opening 10 minutes of talk about JRs health and then he lights up a cigarette...jesus
Dude has survived more crap than most human beings. Leave him alone, what he does to his body is his business.
@@jonathanlindsey790 It's "his business?" He talks about it publicly constantly, on television and this very YT video.
@@rainier4258 uh-huh. Your point?
@@briansolo That things stop being private business when they're discussed publicly in UA-cam videos five times a week and announced on national television for three straight months. Dude loves collecting sympathy for his **CANCER** between cigarettes. JR's a fucking idiot.
lmao how much time do you think he'll save himself if he stopped smoking today?
55:50-I always saw the figure four around the pole as a move where you cant count the person (in this case, Bret) out because he’s engaging with the opponent.
They aren't talking about counted out of the ring, they're talking about the 5 count for doing an illegal hold.
Connie has one helluva title belt collection 😮 💪🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Bret helped put a lot of guys over its a damn shame his career ended so abruptly
You can thank the man that kills people's careers in the wrestling business Goldberg
JR called the Championship title a "f*cking prop." Just a handful of yrs ago hearing JR say something like that would have been unheard of. JR sure has become crusty & grumpy in his old age
Let's be honest.
Fans anywhere other than America wouldn't boo Bret for anything.
So many different things during 1997 were just done wrong. Even with the Shawn vs Bret rematch at WrestleMania 13 not gonna happen, Sid vs Undertaker wasn't the right choice for the main event. But I guess Shawn "not being able to compete" messed up everything.
JR been punched in the eye again.
Isn’t the first time and definitely ain’t the last. Them Oklahoma boys are tough, JR will be just fine
Hey JR hope you are feeling better. I felt the need to remind you that most people now a days don't get the option to take some pain pills. I've dealt with severe chronic pain since I was 23, I'm now 35 everyday is a nightmare because these quack doctors are more afraid of explaining themselves to the DEA than to actually care about the pain their patients are in. At least you have a doctor that cares about how much pain you are in, I promise you the other way around leads to some very dark days my friend. Hope you are doing better!
I'm with you, speaking as a chronic pain sufferer for nearly 20 years now.
Conrad meant to say Wrestlemania 12, not 16, I think he meant to refer to Shawn Michaels the person as Shawn Michaels (not "Wrestlemania 13"). Also Conrad meant Jim Neidhart, not "Jimmy Hart". Rough episode so far, I have about 40 minutes left lol.
In a helluva career Bret was never better and working a Hall Of Fame match and character turn (double turn w Austin) at Mania 13. Can’t put that over enough how great it all was, can’t get enough accolades and be talked about.
On the episode where Vince was revealed as the owner I literally remember thinking wow they finally said it. I grew up in the Northeast close to Allentown, where they went to the area once a month for years. So my family all new WWF and wwwf wrestling and everything about it we just loved it. My grandfather and uncles love to tell stories where they went to the bar where Andre hung out after the matches and the wacky things he did cuz he was so big. And no matter how much he ate he washed it down with whiskey
Why Does JR have a Black Eye?
1:48:59 basically JR is saying “Shawn I can understand HHH behaving like this but you? You’re literally one of the best ever”
I honestly do not believe Conrad appreciates Bret as much as he should.
facts
Because he doesn't appreciate Bret as much as you? You decide how much each of us is supposed to appreciate Bret?
You keep forgetting the best part of Bret & Austin interfering in Every Single Match they had, no matter who the opponent. 96 -97 WM13
A six pack challenge in early '97 involving Bret, Steve, Shawn, Taker, Sid & Vader would've been phenomenal
At the time there was a lot of rumor and innuendo that Yokozuna could work his way back up/onto the card if he got into better shape and join the Hart Foundation. Does anyone know how much validity that rumor had?
I heard that too. I think Bret said that, too. I know he liked working with him
I think Bret if used properly back in wcw would've been a great NWO leader replacing Hogan.
I disagree. He should have carried the same story as the Canadian anti-hero, and formed a new stable, the hitmen with Benoit, Jericho, himself and Davy boy, and anybody else who was from Canada.
No, he should have been against the nwo. Which actually at 1st he was. Wcw had no clue what to do when hogan and flair were basically in charge. Bret should have never been forced to go to wcw in the 1st place just to let hbk have the wwf spotlight after stone cold and hitmans match. . And sting also should have never wrestled in wwe/f. But what the fuck do we know? I never worked for either company and im sure you didnt either.
"Ego's over a fictatios Prop"
Wow best Quote ever!
Great show jim ross and conrad Thompson about brett hart
Jr on the darts
Bret is the best man
Bruce Hart is currently having a major resurgence in popularity and has reached new heights in popularity thanks to OSW Review putting Bruce over! Bruce could win hall of fame in OSW at this year's Golden Noggers award show (although there is stiff competition from Mo) on their next episode of OSW! V1 has made Bruce the world champion on 2K22 on Twitch. Bruce Hart is king boy right now! The WWF made a huge mistake not bringing Bruce back during this time period! He would have have been a game changer in the factions wars!
Two things I always thought Bret would have been amazing at: 1. NWA champion back in the day when it was all of wrestling (eg time travel prime bret to the 70s etc) . 2. A booker. Bret has an incredible mind for booking and no one ever used it . Ill never get why. As i have said elswhere i think theres greater wrestlers like shawn and flair but EVERY wrestler should aspire to be like Bret,
Nothing is ficticious when it takes you a life time to achieve it. Jr never had to spend 20 years trying to get a championship. He's out of line there.
As if YOU'RE even remotely qualified to tell a guy who's spent a lifetime in the business his opinion is out of line.
44:45-Of course it was predictable. We knew the rematch was coming for a year!!!
Yikes that phony laugh by Conrad @47:00 was cringe
I'm pretty sure Austin was mentioning on tv that Vince was running the company in November of 96 🤔
People were watching WWF in November 96? lol
@@misternewman1576 across the pond they were lol
@@misternewman1576 why not?
love you j.r.!
Anyone else laugh at the Kenny Omega comment? 😂😂
Bret and Shawn’s backstage fight was the end of Bret
and Shawn's hair.
Cause Vince was so in love with the boy toy
Brett didn’t turn baby face until the attitude age. He was a,ways a heel
It’s no secret that Bret Hart did not like the edgy direction. The WWF was going during the time he was even on the Canadian channel TSN talking about how the WWF was becoming too much like the Howard Stern show as a pro wrestling technician. He did not see himself as an entertainer like Vince wanted him to be. This is why Vince didn’t want him in the WWF anymore Vince basically saw Steve Austin Shawn, Michaels the undertaker and mankind as the future of the company during that time this is why he screwed Bret at the 1997 Survivor series he didn’t see Bret as a top draw he was more focused on sports entertainment than an actual professional wrestling
How ironic that Jim didn't see any back stage scuffles in AEW at this point
Well it was over a year and a half ago.
That should be a t-shirt "I'm just not a sexy boy Conrad!" LOL
Some of the best shows I've seen were in 1997, and not just because I was relatively new to WWE. So much "new" feeling stuff, each show seemed to leave me wanting more and wishing there was more than just Raw every week. I even stayed up for Shotgun Saturday Night - when it was actually on. JR is right - things are a lot more interesting when there's "shades of grey" in stories.
I think shades of grey works when it makes sense. Everyone face on top had a legitimate gripe with another babyface and their means of addressing said gripe or achieving their goals came across as heelish. If people are emotionally invested and the characters began as established faces (or heels) it works. Outside of those conditions, it's bogus.
25 minutes in & no mention of Bret Hart. I'm tapping out✌️
Connie gets the bret talk going around the 28 minute mark maybe 30
@@DarkLordofTheSith69 thanks I'll check it out this morning
@@DarkLordofTheSith69 he's trolling, it starts at the 26th minute.
Bret Hart was one of the greatest heels there’s ever been. It amazes me that WCW didn’t know what to do with him after the 97 he’d had with WWF. I think the Montréal screw job was a work, it’s just that only certain people knew certain things and each had a different role to play. No company is going to let their top guy join a rival promotion and take the title with him.
Comparing Bret to Shawn.. Bret had better matches, Shawn had better performances (according to Jim Cornette)
In the late 90's ...RVD was the most gifted wrestler ever. If wwe let him do a few matches with no restrictions like he did in ECW , he would be regarded as much as Bret, Shawn and Flair for having the greatest matches. Imagine if he got to face Jerey Lynn, Sabu or Lance Storm for 25 minutes of whatever he wanted to do at a Wrestlemania. The match would have been as highly regarded as Bret vs Austin at mania. Here's what I'm getting at: imagine if Bret had a 25 minute ppv match with RVD in 97, 98 or 99.. with Bret as heel. Damn.., those 2 minds together. 1997 Bret was the most believable heel ever, for me.
Unfortunately RVD got in his own way once he got his mega push. Definitely one of the bigger what ifs in the last 20 years of wrestling.
I love the show don’t get me wrong. But waiting over 20 minutes until they start talking about the title of the show is frustrating
pretty sure sasha is still injured but i might be wrong
It really shocked me when he turned against America.
Bret screwed Bret
Love the 2nd best there is the 2nd best there was n ever will be.
@35:00 it's actually Lawler and I...
J.R. say's both Sean Michaels + Bret Hart were to blame for their feud + couldn't see one not being any more responsible than the other it was 50/50 to him, yet he claims he was more friendly with Bret as a buddy that comment seems like he was trying to stay neutral + was definitely not taking sides by calling them both juveniles with attitudes, but from another persons point of view on hearing this story and providing the level + incidents were accurate in the order that was mentioned in this interview also with eyewitnesses included, both versions of the feud differed from each of their book statements to start with the Sunny Days personal comment on T.V.was not scripted nor okayed with anybody + a very big deal to openly say, that is what you call character assassination, public slander, + deformation, it caused problems in Harts marriage + dragging other people into the mix + another thing that J.R. overlooked was Bret tried to talk it out first with Michaels a couple of times about their problem + was shut down for it, not once did Michaels try to work things out in the locker room confrontations + he's also just as guilty on the striking out part by taking a swing at Bret, at the same time Sean claims it was an unsafe working environment which he's also responsible for as well + should not have gone running to Vince over it because he also escalated the situation by punching at Bret, Sean Michaels made some major mistakes in this conflict + should have handled it differently with the communication aspect way before the level of the Sunny Days put down, you just don't say something like that + then not expect retaliation back them were fighting words + Michaels should have stepped up to the presented challenge that was given out or else kept his mouth shut from the very start.
Periods & line breaks, pal.
@@briansolo Social media not school.
That may be the only 5 star he ever gave Bret? Really? Not even Bulldog vs. Bret at SS '92? Or some of those Hart/Perfect matches? Interesting.
Shane O mac had his moment
I never got into Bret for some reason but I still like these old school stories about everyone
Probably cause you aint a real fan of wrestling
stories
@@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind maybe so? But I do have respect for the entertainment. I think honestly I just missed his run. I think I got into wrestling with the nwo. And attitude area which he was kinda kinda a douce
@@Stubbla thx bro!
I think Bret is the BEST wrestler ever; the only person i consider one notch better was Owen.
Let’s all be realistic after the spring of 2001 wrestling was never the same and it never will reach those dramatic heights as it did in the late 90s. This is why I don’t watch it no more
2 man booths >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think it’s possible for every single thing about Bret is a work even to this day. The screw job booking and everything else even his injury story. Maybe. He wanted to retire and was like you know I’m committed to this role that I can kayfabe these things for the rest of my life. What if?
If anybody wanted to kayfabe his real life it would be Bret hart so I don’t think it’s far fetched at all
grilling JR is overtaking STW.... Jim is so much more likable (and Bruce is unbearable after the rehire).
Bruce isn't honest and just sucks up to Vince and wwe
I'd say the WWF was never the same when Bret left but I stopped watching so I wouldn't know. I still think Vince is a little light in the loafers. He pushed the male stripper gimmick over a guy who was there way longer and much more respected.
Even though wrestling (wwe) got better after bret left, if michaels got replaced by bret and shawn left. I feel wrestling would of been even better than it was, and could of made wrestling great still today. I feel like the biggest wrestling downfalls were who vince chose to push or get over as the “big” guy. Austin was the only still successful push. Everyone else is trash or mehhh
And taker
The best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
Got it. So both Jim Ross and Vince Russo believe the belts are props. Now are people going to cry about JR for 20 years now too?
The way fans are these days probably. No one hates pro wrestling more than pro wrestling fans
Wow
Go to 26mins
Hey Conrad, Can U please play 90 Ads a segment? Lol! We know thats all U know how to do! 😁. We 💕 JR, but absolutely Hate ConAd! Boo!
Jr saying ronda abs her husband are good people yet both are known abusers to there exs poor taste JR
John Wayne was Genghis Khan in a movie. Sorry JR. XD
Brett is a great wrestler. His mic work lacked. And I never cared for his persona
Jim talks about the royal rumble and the opportunity for the wwe to put in a new guy. Wwe ~ brock lesnar 😂
I thought Bret was a great champion plus he left me hold the winged eagle belt for a minute out back of a house show when I met him he was very very nice that was just before Yoko got it
I call bullshyte on the whole him turning bad, when he first came into the WWF his first years there he was a heel. This thing about how he was go against the fans, come on he was a heel then a baby face.
Shawn was a conniving weasel
😩why Jr smoking 🚬
Because he wants too.
I'm listening to this a week after the fact of the "Royal Rumble" and i have to laugh. I grew up listening to JR. d
oing commentary back in the early to mid 90s and no one besides him, Lawler, and even Vince sounds nearly as good or at home on the commentary mic as those 3 in WWE/WWF. Just like Tony Shavoni (misspelled name sorry) The Brain Bobby Heenan and Larry Zybizco are the 3 in WCW that sound really right and at home to me. Anyway what I have to laugh about is that they went on for 10 to 15 minutes about how they would find it highly unlikely to have Ronda not only but win it...Which obviously she did. But what was really funny that was talked about was them drawing comparison to her and being the demale Brock Lesnar. Which other than HIM starting his career in WWF and then going to UFC and back to the federation she obviously started in the UFC then came to the WWE. But she is the woman you without a doubt know could beat you down.... with ease. Then after they say no way and that they will start someone on a new run both those "ass kicker giants in the sport win.
JR be like you know we had burgers and steaks but you know what Conrad.. the burger had get over.. and that's what it's all about .. it's a top burger Conrad
Jr. Funny how you keep smoking those cancer sticks after what you just went through.
If your leg hurts so bad what do you think your lungs will feel like after treatment ?
JR doesn’t have to answer to you you self entitled douchebag
It’s pot dumb ass
His legs, his lungs, deal with it.
Double standards JR again
It's simple , he didn't do his job . It's like Trump said you don't do your job you're fired . Like a spoiled kid almost .
@Old Man it's the only thing that he ever said that made since 😊.
Imagine thinking trump is stupid then voting for a real mentally handicapped grandpa. Who's the real dummy here? LMAO++
So Trump is some kinda hero, a white billionaire racist
Double standards again
Nothing like that at aew 😂
Bret was a legend in his own mind. By far the most overrated performer ever. When he was champ they couldn't sell out high school gyms. Vince Mcmahon couldn't wait to get rid of his ass and had to screw him on a live ppv to get the fuck rid of his ass.
As ridiculous and simply absurd a take as I've ever seen on here. You are obviously not a fan, fine. But your rhetoric is so far off base its amazing you call yourself a wrestling fan. OMG, such nonsense.
are you a idiot? wow man put down the crack pipe.
ruane be quiet no one believes u or your nonsense. Michaels is one of the lowest rated champions ever. Facts. Bret Hart was and remains a legend. He kept WWFgoing during thier dark years 93-95.
@@christiancharles2866 How'd he do in WCW? Why did Vince get rid of him?
@@rockyruane9379 Bischoff and WCW didnt use him right thats why. Hart was the hottest free agent in wrestling in 1997 and the 5 man Hart Foundation was amazing. Meekmahan lied and said he didnt have the money to sign him when he gave him a 20 year deal then went back.
my boy stafford and the rams over the chiefs in the bowl
Bret didnt turn heel, people were tired of him and started turning against him and in favor of Stone Cold organically
Stone Cold made Bret
then when he left to WCW, no one watched lol, shocker