It's amazing to realise how Texas has been kept as a Museum for so long . The corrosion and so many other issues associated with any warship , let alone one of this size and age are never ending and it's a tribute to everyone involved that she is still viable and has a future .
@@randbarrett8706 There are 0 fiscal conservatives currently in power, and haven't been in decades. Fiscal conservatism requires intelligently evaluating price at purchase AND long term costs, and choosing the option that is the best VALUE over it's lifespan.
@@tonyInPA I'll say this, our ol gal ain't as impressive looking as New Jersey, but she's old and treacherous. Her battery's are modest, but they are true and stout.
Isn't battleship texas in the mist an awsome backdrop to this video. This shows the incredible engeneering and build quality of the battleship texas and her own war she's fighting since 1948 just to survive as a museum ship and incredible feat of all involved from the infancy to the knowledgeable/dedicated folk now involved in her restoration and more to her crew who fought/served and called her home over her 34 year active service. "COME ON TEXAS" 🇺🇸
Thank you for sharing When a youngster, my father took us to see the battleship TEXAS, they had a machine that for around 75¢ would heat up wax and pour into a mold and give you a little replica. I still have it. 😎🏆🙏🇺🇸
I think there’s a really good point about how long a ship has been a museum, but also the size of the ship. There are museum ships older than Texas, but nothing on the sheer scale of the Old Lady, which means she is the first of the big capital ships to reach these major milestones, and so she is one the having to learn the lessons of long term preservation and what design work is needed to facilitate said preservation, such as her torpedo bulges, but I imagine the Texas Foundation could write a whole book on problems and issues that no-one has had to deal with before.
I'm not discounting that at all with this: Many crews fought and killed each other during civil wars/revolutions. Namely Russian, Spanish and Brazilian ships. In the case of Spain; Almirante Cervera's crew attempted to secret her out of port. The majority of her officers rounded up some loyal crew, along with other Nationalist crew members, to retake her (by force) before she slipped mooring.
I took the U.S.S. Texas dry dock tour this morning. The volunteers did an excellent job. The guide was very informative. A huge amount of work has been done and I understand that the ship will be floating again this year. It is a magnificent sight. My father was a materials and corrosion engineer for many years for Bechtel, and he took me with him on technical visits when I was young. He would really have enjoyed looking at the Texas up close. For me, I tried to imagine how the torpedo blisters had been riveted in place over the original hull, working with miner's lamps, rivet guns.sledge hammers and crowbars. I look forward to seeing the ship when it is ready for reopening.
I love the spirit of cooperation, _not competition,_ being shown in the preservation of these great ships. When we work together, everything is possible.
This is so awesome you guys are preserving this for MULTIPLE Generations. I remember visiting BB Texas when i was 8 years old. It was a massive spark in my life that led me to being a Technicians and an engineer. To see something that old and to know there were HUMANS that had the knowledge to create something so advanced for it's time . Not to mention i love my Country....TEXAS.
Bringing more attention to BB Texas by doing these crossover videos was a great idea. Really interesting to learn these details about operating museum ships. Then on top of that you've had this great atmospheric fog around the ship.
Glad again that Ryan mentioned the cruiser USS Olympia, which is the oldest steel warship in the world. Right across the Delaware river from USS New Jersey.
My local museum ship is actually just a boat but was featured in a movie a few years ago: The Finest Hours It’s the USCG rescue boat CG36500 that rescued 32 of 33 sailors on the stern of tanker Pendleton off Cape Cod in 1952 that split in half in a winter storm.
USCG doesn't get enough credit. Their seafaring is as good as the navy, in some cases better, and they do it on smaller ships. Not to mention sailing INTO storms to do rescues. A service to be respected alongside the others.
@@chrismaverick9828 Definitely agree! In this case, in a 36 ft boat designed to carry 12 survivors, they somehow squeezed 32 of them into and on the tiny boat and dealt with waves breaking near shore of some 40+ feet! And got back to dock without a compass (it was lost in storm) at night in that storm. The Disney movie added a storyline that was totally fake about steering the stern half but gives the basics and was partially filmed in Chatham where the rescue occurred. The CG36500 is docked during summer in Orleans and is available for tours. One sailor was lost in the rescue when he fell into ocean.
I know there are a number of ships with relatively high-profile, severe issues out there (USS The Sullivans, I’m thinking of you), but one I haven’t heard much about in a while is the USS Batfish. It’s a Balao-class submarine (in Muskogee Oklahoma, of all places!) that nearly floated away when the adjacent Arkansas River flooded several years ago. The boat still is off its original dry berth and unable to be opened to the public.
I live near Cleveland and it was such a great feeling seeing USS COD back from her restoration process, I'm happy this timeless ship is getting the same treatment
I hope you and others are subscribing to the Texas channel also. The videos are getting numerous views but none of the NJ subs are bothering to click the TX sub button.
Here you go again both of you on the same video.This is so cool. Travis doing the repairs Ryan getting ready to do New Jersey. Yes the whole fleet is watching and then some. What you are both doing daily to work toward the ongoing survival of these two ships is really dedication. Along with all the other curators you guys need a big nod of appreciation. How cool again to be able to see these ships in real life settings and have all the public actually touch them. My son is out now protecting us he is USBN 741 Maine Gold. Watch for him on the news next week.
"A stitch in time saves nine" Make sure there's good pictures from this process for other operators to illustrate the importance of preventative work. "A timely donation can prevent this kind of damage and expensive Band-Aid then repair." Battleship Texas had no choice but to learn the hard way; blazing the better trail for those who come is a solid legacy.
He is exactly correct Texas is a lot more lasts than she is 1st. She is the last example surviving of a quadruple expansion Reciprocating steam engine among many other things and honestly that's what I find so fascinating about her. I'm really excited for the time when I get to revisit Texas and gets up inside her engine room again because just the amount of machinery in. The complexity of Said machinery lights my fire as they say. No pun intended of course, I think you would be cool as if at least 1 of her boiler rooms were open to the public much like On alabama. It really makes me proud to see all these different museum ships working together And it's how it should be. Yall are pulling together for the same goal for each other's ships. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing her when she's out of Dry dock
My daughter, an I toured the Battleship New Jersey in November 2017. We really enjoyed ourselves, and learned a lot. Being a native Texan, I have toured the Battleship Texas several times.
Working with the spring maintenance crew on the DE USS Slater and seeing how much of the epoxy paint we used doing our refit week, I can only imagine the immense cost and time needed for this 'small' battleship and the USS New Jersey. Start clicking like to all the videos and sending money everyone!
I toured the Texas twice in the early 2000’s, back then I was able to go all the way down to the engine room and see the rotating assembly, it was overwhelming to say the least!
This team up between the curators has been great. I found the BB62 channel first, then the Tom Scott channel, and then looked for BB35. I'd encourage Travis to continue making videos if possible, he is doing well in front of the camera. Of course, Tom's videos have been fantastic as well.
@@BattleshipTexas do your best. These videos create awareness and while time is in. Short supply... the long term benefits from posting weekly videos is priceless. It helps people learn and just flat out know texas exists. It's tough. But it does matter
I grew up in Evansville, IN. There is an LST museum ship, LST-325. One of the few museum ships that can actually still sail. They do a cruise every summer for fundraising/awareness.
@@johnthomas2485 That’s funny, just down the road from the Silversides is LST-393. She has 3 battle stars and was at Normandy. It doesn’t sail but you can tour it.
Literally as I watching a Sabaton video about dreadnoughts, they were talking about Sabaton visiting Battleship Texas. And the next thing I know, I get a video from the Battleship Texas channel immediantly! Hilarious!
I was stationed in Mayport, FL during the 1990's we had a early FFG come into the basin at speed and do a crash back stop as she was taking on water via hull plates at waterline. They pulled the lagging on the inside, it had hull gray and when the lights were turned off it looked like swiss cheese. The moored alongside another FFG and commenced transferring fuel off. That is why the FFG 's had a belt installed in the waterline area.
It's really important to show people why drydocking is so expensive but also critical to save these ships and I'm glad in 2023, the ship museums have the ability to communicate this in these videos.
Wow! This collaboration between you guys is really bringing out interesting discussion. There is definite synergy. I thought I knew a lot about this topic and was sent to school! Please do more of these.
Well, any boat, ship, things that float are trying to sink the moment they are put in the water. Its a miracle that 100+ year old vessels survive as well as they have.
I hope the architects tasked with the design of BB-35's forever home can study the facility that was built for the ocean liner S.S. Great Britain in Bristol UK, IMHO the best example of a drydock-to-museum conversion in the world today. The roof of the man exhibit floor sits at the vessel's waterline and is constructed of clear acrylic panels with a rim around the periphery to form a shallow tub. This clear tub structure is filled with about 6" of fresh water, not enough to weigh it down, but sufficient depth for the water to ripple with the wind. When viewed from above, this creates the illusion that the ship is still afloat on the water, rather than being structurally supported from beneath. When viewed from below, not only does this water feature protect the exhibits from UV damage while allowing natural sunlight to pass through, it also casts down a shadow and shimmer effect that invites the viewer to imagine tanks on their backs and flippers on their feet, feeling more like a diver swimming around and inspecting the hull, rather than a tourist in a comfy, climate-and-humidity controlled building. If I were to describe the effect in one word it would be....Immersive. I know you want to give her the best of everything, and you say you are still compounding your knowledge base, so I don't want you to miss an idea just because it's from outside of our navy and nation when it would provide the perfect finishing touch.
The same things go for tanks the longer they sit without proper maintenance the more costly it gets I remember when the museum of the American GI got there ww1 Renault tank working it was amazing
I have to wonder about our museum ship in Charleston, the U.S.S. Yorktown. As you say, looking at her at the waterline, it’s getting scary. It will be interesting to see if she will be able to stand the stress of being pried out of the pluff mud if it goes many more years before dry docking. The Laffey was put on hold until the bottom got spongy, just lucky for her our shipyard was close by to rebuild her bottom. But the closest carrier dry dock from here is in Virginia as far as I know, so if they wait too long for Yorktown may be a major problem getting her there if they let this go too long……
I'm not sure how deep either laffey or Yorktown's water is, but they may benefit like the showboat has from a cofferdam, as she is much in the same condition( shored up in the mud)
@@cavalierliberty6838 perhaps. I think the only problem is if they let the bottom get too far gone, then they will never stop the corrosion eating away at her hull. But I guess if it gets that bad, it might be the only option left…..
@@johncantrell614 well, if her or laffey do end up in a cofferdam, North Carolina is definitely the model to go with, where you can drain part or all of the water out to get to damaged areas on her outer superstructure.
You bet it does. The period between dry docking is double in fresh water. Missouri had to dry docked already due to corrosion issues on the wind water line and a sizeable leak. She's is warm salt water.
Yeah major factor in corrosion acceleration is salt vs. fresh water. Major problem if they set her down in Galveston. They need to find an inland location or set up in a purpose built dry dock permanently.
@Cornelius crewe The dry dock (4) is owned by the Navy. BAE did the work. US government gave a $10m grant. The rest was donations from the BB63 non-profit association. Hopefully the new coating system will last in that harsh environment. In picking museum locations I wish there was more consideration to fresh water berths. Not always possible, but should be preferred.
@@tholmes2169 At San Jacinto it was brackish waters so not too salty but that is worse than saltwater. There is no way for Texas to be placed into a freshwater place and also get the necessary revenue to be self sufficient. The brackish water was horrible due to sand and oil from the disgusting Houston Channel. I notice the NJ's location isn't very good for getting revenue also. NJ is pretty much funded primarily by taxdollars.
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Interesting Video. Keep up the good work. I hope to see her one day resting peacfully in Texas waters :)
Just as with a lot of other things, knowing what doesn’t work can be as valuable as knowing what does. Glad she’s getting the love and newer ships ar evening taken better care of
We’ve got a lot of interviews of sailors from the past and those who are still alive have been interviewed before, afaik. There are a couple of reasons why we tend to see obituaries from crew members we don’t know about. They range from those who don’t want to talk about their service and even those who may not know the ship is here. For a wide range of reasons we don’t know they’re out there until we see the obituary posted online.
You should watch the two Texas Parks and Wildlife UA-cam channel's USS Texas documentaries regarding both the first post-1948 1988-90 drydock of Texas and the one that interviewed so many veterans to commemorate the 50th year anniversary of D-Day so Texas was packed to the brim with hundreds of D-Day veterans, mostly USS Texas veterans. So many veterans were still alive back then and there are so many lovely interviews in that documentary. They all looked so happy and proud that Texas was still alive. They took one of the veterans who hid contraband food deep in the interior of Texas and he showed the camera crew where exactly that silly incident happened. He said he couldn't believe that after 40+ years he was able to see that area again. They showed a Marine or Army veteran saluting one of the Texas crew veteran on camera and he thanked him for supporting him with naval artillery at either Normandy or the Pacific.
This is great! i could listen to curator chat all day! love the way you’ve split the video across the two channels to support both the ladies! Can we call your collabs ‘New Texsey’?
15:10 Heartbreaking, but true. My biological father was 9 when the war ended. Died at 86 last December. Anyone who had ANY service was 8 years his senior, with few exceptions. And like him and his regretting never getting in touch with any one of his old navy buds or the like, I bet most if not all of those guys died with the regret of never contacting y'all in their list. Round tuits ain't that fucking expensive. Don't die with regrets on your fucking list, folks. Take care of that shit, you may not be here tomorrow. And that's true for people of any age. You are worth it.
are you planning to keep the current paint measure or are you considering other patterns such as measure 22 which she wore during d-day (especially since you don't have the catapult like she did that period). I personally think the different measure would add more interest beyond what she has worn since she became a museum.
Listening to the discussion there's two east coast battle ships USS New Jersey and Wisconsin maybe a cheaper way to get drydocking done would be to work a deal where both use the same yard and both get most of the same work done. One comes out the other goes in. As the blocks would already be set and services arranged. Cutting down on costs and buying in bulk for something like paint might save you both money.
when the Sullivans in Buffalo started taking on water- did y'all reach out to them? i'm originally from there and love visiting both the Little Rock and The Sullivans.
When it come to museum ships, USS Texas is the class leader. She is the one for good or bad we learn from trying to keep our history alive. I didn't know that the USS Texas has no A/C. I hope you are able to find a way to add that without spoiling the character of the ship. One of these days I have got to get back to work on my 1/700 scale model of the USS Texas. When done, I will add her to my other WWII models at my American Legion Post 84 in Otsego Michigan. Here is an idea for you. Once you are open again for visitors, how about letting an American Legion and/or Veterans of Foreign Wars use the USS Texas as their meeting place? Just a thought?
No AC, but the air venting is surprisingly good. Some space on the main deck had AC added. It is still cooler than being outside on the Gulf, not bad at all.
@@TEXwithNODS This Michigander knows about the Gulf Coast. When I was in the Air Force, I spent a year at Keesler AFB, Biloxi, MS going to 2 computer maintenance schools! The other 1/700 ship models at my legion Post are the USS Indianapolis, USS Arizona, USS Washington, USS South Dakota, USS Lexington, USS Enterprise, and USS Essex. All are painted for colors they wore during or at the start of the war.
That was a great insight into what all goes into keeping a museum ship going for the public. I would love for the USS Texas to outlast me. Good news is that won't be that long.
Beaumont as well, it appears that she will finally be berthed in Galveston... Where is Galveston? Don't know, but it's very likely that it will be at the island.
You would think that since these are historical to our country, there would be federal funding to help maintain these ships. Just like any other national park, sites, etc.
such an interesting point - 'the fuel mixed with sea water producing bacteria and acid - when we now live in a time of preserving more wartime exhibits better and longer, and the price of that preservation past and present and sharing it with other organisations, that history making conservers more savvy regarding recycling and scrapping, how we can turn scrap into gold - this is a fantastic project and seems to be well run with the issue above raised, i wonder who made the decision back then to do that, what their qualifications were, what advice was given and by what experts, no names, just what they were and qualifications would be interesting to know - maybe nothing was known or thought of, keeping in mind its probable life time expectancy - maybe they were a good team, lets hope the current ones are best of all, but don't you wonder what horrors might come about in the future - THEY DID WHAT? i give a classic example - some ex RAF guys were jacking up a 1950s aircraft, easy enough you think, one chap places the jacks and they begin to lift the plane, a sudden bang and the plane drops, a jack was badly placed under a wing drain plug (not a jacking location) pushing it through the wing, which then leaked diesel, a couple of gallons at least of inert liquid but keeps the wing from corrosion - the point is there were no markings, the chap never asked for a manual or asked for any assistance if it was correct before jacking, had no sense in fact to look at the aircrafts structure, ie the wing spar, looking at the rivets or any number of things to double check - the other point is, if you don't know, don't be frightened to ask, don't go off doing stuff alone if you don't know - but then the issue we had, is the old boy syndrome, 'i done this for years you know' yep it shows, you can't be helped great update PS, i guess Texas being WWI vintage must make her the longest surviving iron/steel ship - are there any others world wide?, i know we have an old rust bucket in dry dock in Southampton HMS M33, an odd thing, nicely kept although some interior was scrapped long before she became a museum piece, nothing compared to Texas
Glad to see the progression of knowledge especially expanding revenue sources like youtube money to preserve these valuable ships. I hope to see these ships before I die but it is a long ways off being a busted poor Navy Chief living thousands of miles away from all of them in Idaho.
When talking about restoring different vessels from different eras, could you discuss wooden ships such as the USS Constitution which has been around for almost 250 years now and still has a lot of the original wood on it as opposed to steel ships that are around 100 years? Which aspects of them require more or less attention? Which is more costly taking into account the difference in size?
You mean other than not selling her to the scrapyard..... right. What I'm not clear on is why not just remove the water problem altogether and put them on land with a cofferdam or what ever means there are now.
Ive asked several times about obtaining some scrap material to make commemorative hand made knives from. Not looking for more than a few pounds. Being a knife maker (obviously biased) can't imagine a better way to see that she lives on in posterity anyway possible. Who can i contact to inquire?
Here is part one of this video collaboration!
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Have you ever thought of reducing costs by sharing a dry dock with a Navy ship or another museum ship?
It's amazing to realise how Texas has been kept as a Museum for so long . The corrosion and so many other issues associated with any warship , let alone one of this size and age are never ending and it's a tribute to everyone involved that she is still viable and has a future .
She was made with real US Steel, not like our new ship made in China steel.
@@dennis4774 fiscal conservatism demands that the government pick the cheapest option
@@randbarrett8706 yes!
@@randbarrett8706 There are 0 fiscal conservatives currently in power, and haven't been in decades.
Fiscal conservatism requires intelligently evaluating price at purchase AND long term costs, and choosing the option that is the best VALUE over it's lifespan.
sometimes I feel like she kept herself afloat just on sheer spite.
Greetings, BB-35 from the BB-62 crew!
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From another NEW JERSEY volunteer, look forward to seeing TEXAS at Gulf Copper this Sunday!
@@tonyInPA I'll say this, our ol gal ain't as impressive looking as New Jersey, but she's old and treacherous. Her battery's are modest, but they are true and stout.
@@tonyInPAOld Texas is still a brutal piece of weaponry..
Isn't battleship texas in the mist an awsome backdrop to this video.
This shows the incredible engeneering and build quality of the battleship texas and her own war she's fighting since 1948 just to survive as a museum ship and incredible feat of all involved from the infancy to the knowledgeable/dedicated folk now involved in her restoration and more to her crew who fought/served and called her home over her 34 year active service. "COME ON TEXAS" 🇺🇸
Thank you for sharing
When a youngster, my father took us to see the battleship TEXAS, they had a machine that for around 75¢ would heat up wax and pour into a mold and give you a little replica. I still have it.
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I think there’s a really good point about how long a ship has been a museum, but also the size of the ship. There are museum ships older than Texas, but nothing on the sheer scale of the Old Lady, which means she is the first of the big capital ships to reach these major milestones, and so she is one the having to learn the lessons of long term preservation and what design work is needed to facilitate said preservation, such as her torpedo bulges, but I imagine the Texas Foundation could write a whole book on problems and issues that no-one has had to deal with before.
Not only is a ship a city but it's also a family. There is a bond between us shipmates that lasts forever and can never be broken.
I'm not discounting that at all with this:
Many crews fought and killed each other during civil wars/revolutions. Namely Russian, Spanish and Brazilian ships. In the case of Spain; Almirante Cervera's crew attempted to secret her out of port. The majority of her officers rounded up some loyal crew, along with other Nationalist crew members, to retake her (by force) before she slipped mooring.
I worked with a guy that crewed Texas prewar. He said it was a worn out rust bucket then. Kudos to keeping her in one piece all these years.
Texas is like a real-life Millennium Falcon. Hunk of junk but the crew still loved her.
I took the U.S.S. Texas dry dock tour this morning. The volunteers did an excellent job. The guide was very informative. A huge amount of work has been done and I understand that the ship will be floating again this year. It is a magnificent sight. My father was a materials and corrosion engineer for many years for Bechtel, and he took me with him on technical visits when I was young. He would really have enjoyed looking at the Texas up close. For me, I tried to imagine how the torpedo blisters had been riveted in place over the original hull, working with miner's lamps, rivet guns.sledge hammers and crowbars. I look forward to seeing the ship when it is ready for reopening.
I love the spirit of cooperation, _not competition,_ being shown in the preservation of these great ships. When we work together, everything is possible.
Imagine being able to talk to the ship's gestalt... The memories it could share!
This is so awesome you guys are preserving this for MULTIPLE Generations. I remember visiting BB Texas when i was 8 years old. It was a massive spark in my life that led me to being a Technicians and an engineer.
To see something that old and to know there were HUMANS that had the knowledge to create something so advanced for it's time . Not to mention i love my Country....TEXAS.
Bringing more attention to BB Texas by doing these crossover videos was a great idea. Really interesting to learn these details about operating museum ships. Then on top of that you've had this great atmospheric fog around the ship.
I hope you are subscribing to the Texas UA-cam channel also
Glad again that Ryan mentioned the cruiser USS Olympia, which is the oldest steel warship in the world. Right across the Delaware river from USS New Jersey.
Olympia really needs help
A "bad" decision is based upon "best available data". That's how we progress and learn.
It is really great to see the Texas getting so much very needed work performed on her!
Bill C. CWO3(Ret) U.S.N., former USS Texas (CGN-39) crewman.
My local museum ship is actually just a boat but was featured in a movie a few years ago: The Finest Hours
It’s the USCG rescue boat CG36500 that rescued 32 of 33 sailors on the stern of tanker Pendleton off Cape Cod in 1952 that split in half in a winter storm.
USCG doesn't get enough credit. Their seafaring is as good as the navy, in some cases better, and they do it on smaller ships. Not to mention sailing INTO storms to do rescues. A service to be respected alongside the others.
@@chrismaverick9828 Definitely agree! In this case, in a 36 ft boat designed to carry 12 survivors, they somehow squeezed 32 of them into and on the tiny boat and dealt with waves breaking near shore of some 40+ feet! And got back to dock without a compass (it was lost in storm) at night in that storm.
The Disney movie added a storyline that was totally fake about steering the stern half but gives the basics and was partially filmed in Chatham where the rescue occurred.
The CG36500 is docked during summer in Orleans and is available for tours.
One sailor was lost in the rescue when he fell into ocean.
My local ship is the USS Numbnutz
I know there are a number of ships with relatively high-profile, severe issues out there (USS The Sullivans, I’m thinking of you), but one I haven’t heard much about in a while is the USS Batfish. It’s a Balao-class submarine (in Muskogee Oklahoma, of all places!) that nearly floated away when the adjacent Arkansas River flooded several years ago. The boat still is off its original dry berth and unable to be opened to the public.
I live near Cleveland and it was such a great feeling seeing USS COD back from her restoration process, I'm happy this timeless ship is getting the same treatment
Really like seeing how you (historical Navy orgs) work together. This is a great video.
I hope you and others are subscribing to the Texas channel also. The videos are getting numerous views but none of the NJ subs are bothering to click the TX sub button.
@@nogoodnameleft Actually, I started with sub'ing to Texas, then added NJ. Only so many hours in a day :)
Ryan and Travis, Just watched parts one and two. Your videos are a great education for us at Cruiser Salem. Thanks for all you do!
Hope to see y’all at HNSA this year!
Here you go again both of you on the same video.This is so cool. Travis doing the repairs Ryan getting ready to do New Jersey. Yes the whole fleet is watching and then some. What you are both doing daily to work toward the ongoing survival of these two ships is really dedication. Along with all the other curators you guys need a big nod of appreciation. How cool again to be able to see these ships in real life settings and have all the public actually touch them. My son is out now protecting us he is USBN 741 Maine Gold. Watch for him on the news next week.
My sons and I had the privilege of camping on the USS Texas about 20 years ago.
What a great memory.
"A stitch in time saves nine" Make sure there's good pictures from this process for other operators to illustrate the importance of preventative work. "A timely donation can prevent this kind of damage and expensive Band-Aid then repair." Battleship Texas had no choice but to learn the hard way; blazing the better trail for those who come is a solid legacy.
He is exactly correct Texas is a lot more lasts than she is 1st. She is the last example surviving of a quadruple expansion Reciprocating steam engine among many other things and honestly that's what I find so fascinating about her. I'm really excited for the time when I get to revisit Texas and gets up inside her engine room again because just the amount of machinery in. The complexity of Said machinery lights my fire as they say. No pun intended of course, I think you would be cool as if at least 1 of her boiler rooms were open to the public much like On alabama. It really makes me proud to see all these different museum ships working together And it's how it should be. Yall are pulling together for the same goal for each other's ships. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing her when she's out of Dry dock
My daughter, an I toured the Battleship New Jersey in November 2017. We really enjoyed ourselves, and learned a lot. Being a native Texan, I have toured the Battleship Texas several times.
The slight haze in the background combined with the distance to & color...the Texas almost looks like it's a Matte Painting...
Working with the spring maintenance crew on the DE USS Slater and seeing how much of the epoxy paint we used doing our refit week, I can only imagine the immense cost and time needed for this 'small' battleship and the USS New Jersey. Start clicking like to all the videos and sending money everyone!
I have made it to the USS Texas five times in my life. I will make the trip one more time after her dry dock is done. Love this ship.
I toured the Texas twice in the early 2000’s, back then I was able to go all the way down to the engine room and see the rotating assembly, it was overwhelming to say the least!
This team up between the curators has been great. I found the BB62 channel first, then the Tom Scott channel, and then looked for BB35.
I'd encourage Travis to continue making videos if possible, he is doing well in front of the camera. Of course, Tom's videos have been fantastic as well.
We do our best to record when we can. Unfortunately it can be difficult to catch him when we're both free.
@@BattleshipTexas do your best. These videos create awareness and while time is in. Short supply... the long term benefits from posting weekly videos is priceless. It helps people learn and just flat out know texas exists. It's tough. But it does matter
Our local boat is the USS Silversides. They run the diesels every so often which is really great.
I grew up in Evansville, IN. There is an LST museum ship, LST-325. One of the few museum ships that can actually still sail. They do a cruise every summer for fundraising/awareness.
@@johnthomas2485 That’s funny, just down the road from the Silversides is LST-393. She has 3 battle stars and was at Normandy. It doesn’t sail but you can tour it.
Sending much love from Poland, I'm happy that you are able to get that much done
The passion you guys have for these ships and the history associated with them is very admirable. Thank you.
I wanted to serve on an Iowa class battleship as a kid. Looking back I wish I had pursued doing so in the early 80's when I turned 18..
Thank you professionals and volunteers alike for putting in the work lobbying and repairing to keep these artifacts alive.
Literally as I watching a Sabaton video about dreadnoughts, they were talking about Sabaton visiting Battleship Texas. And the next thing I know, I get a video from the Battleship Texas channel immediantly!
Hilarious!
I need to watch that video
I even think they did a video touring Texas in the drydock. I hope they will record a proper music video on the ship once she is back in the water.
I was stationed in Mayport, FL during the 1990's we had a early FFG come into the basin at speed and do a crash back stop as she was taking on water via hull plates at waterline. They pulled the lagging on the inside, it had hull gray and when the lights were turned off it looked like swiss cheese. The moored alongside another FFG and commenced transferring fuel off. That is why the FFG 's had a belt installed in the waterline area.
It's really important to show people why drydocking is so expensive but also critical to save these ships and I'm glad in 2023, the ship museums have the ability to communicate this in these videos.
Thanks for coming Ryan! She needs the attention you bring. I hope Drachinifel gets to come touch her keel soon too. Maybe the history guy as well.
I wish I had the time to visit. At least I can watch and like the video. I'll have to visit someday when its out of dry dock.
Wow! This collaboration between you guys is really bringing out interesting discussion. There is definite synergy. I thought I knew a lot about this topic and was sent to school! Please do more of these.
Battleship Texas- yesterday i went online to your online ship’s store and purchased a item and plus added a tip to the overall total
Thank you so much for your support! It is greatly appreciated and rest assured, it is all going to this dry dock project!
@@BattleshipTexas you are welcome.
The task of preservation is a Huge undertaking. And I'm glad to see. It being done
Well, any boat, ship, things that float are trying to sink the moment they are put in the water. Its a miracle that 100+ year old vessels survive as well as they have.
Could lIsten to y’all talk about the ships all day. Do more like this.
I hope the architects tasked with the design of BB-35's forever home can study the facility that was built for the ocean liner S.S. Great Britain in Bristol UK, IMHO the best example of a drydock-to-museum conversion in the world today.
The roof of the man exhibit floor sits at the vessel's waterline and is constructed of clear acrylic panels with a rim around the periphery to form a shallow tub. This clear tub structure is filled with about 6" of fresh water, not enough to weigh it down, but sufficient depth for the water to ripple with the wind. When viewed from above, this creates the illusion that the ship is still afloat on the water, rather than being structurally supported from beneath. When viewed from below, not only does this water feature protect the exhibits from UV damage while allowing natural sunlight to pass through, it also casts down a shadow and shimmer effect that invites the viewer to imagine tanks on their backs and flippers on their feet, feeling more like a diver swimming around and inspecting the hull, rather than a tourist in a comfy, climate-and-humidity controlled building. If I were to describe the effect in one word it would be....Immersive.
I know you want to give her the best of everything, and you say you are still compounding your knowledge base, so I don't want you to miss an idea just because it's from outside of our navy and nation when it would provide the perfect finishing touch.
great look into Behind the Scenes stuff
but can we just take a moment to appreciate how menacing the old Lady looks in Fog?
Yay! I'm glad they consider them seivs as a fleet together and work so well together.
The same things go for tanks the longer they sit without proper maintenance the more costly it gets I remember when the museum of the American GI got there ww1 Renault tank working it was amazing
I have to wonder about our museum ship in Charleston, the U.S.S. Yorktown. As you say, looking at her at the waterline, it’s getting scary. It will be interesting to see if she will be able to stand the stress of being pried out of the pluff mud if it goes many more years before dry docking. The Laffey was put on hold until the bottom got spongy, just lucky for her our shipyard was close by to rebuild her bottom.
But the closest carrier dry dock from here is in Virginia as far as I know, so if they wait too long for Yorktown may be a major problem getting her there if they let this go too long……
I'm not sure how deep either laffey or Yorktown's water is, but they may benefit like the showboat has from a cofferdam, as she is much in the same condition( shored up in the mud)
@@cavalierliberty6838 perhaps. I think the only problem is if they let the bottom get too far gone, then they will never stop the corrosion eating away at her hull. But I guess if it gets that bad, it might be the only option left…..
@@johncantrell614 well, if her or laffey do end up in a cofferdam, North Carolina is definitely the model to go with, where you can drain part or all of the water out to get to damaged areas on her outer superstructure.
Suddenly the maintenance bills on a '96 Geo Metro don't seem so bad...
The advantage to seeing texas out of the water gives the nj team things to look for
Question for Ryan, does having the New Jersey in fresh water slow down the corrosion process compared to salt water?
You bet it does. The period between dry docking is double in fresh water. Missouri had to dry docked already due to corrosion issues on the wind water line and a sizeable leak. She's is warm salt water.
@@jth877 Is the Navy handling Missouri’s dry docking, or does she fall under National Park Service?
Yeah major factor in corrosion acceleration is salt vs. fresh water. Major problem if they set her down in Galveston. They need to find an inland location or set up in a purpose built dry dock permanently.
@Cornelius crewe The dry dock (4) is owned by the Navy. BAE did the work. US government gave a $10m grant. The rest was donations from the BB63 non-profit association. Hopefully the new coating system will last in that harsh environment. In picking museum locations I wish there was more consideration to fresh water berths. Not always possible, but should be preferred.
@@tholmes2169 At San Jacinto it was brackish waters so not too salty but that is worse than saltwater. There is no way for Texas to be placed into a freshwater place and also get the necessary revenue to be self sufficient. The brackish water was horrible due to sand and oil from the disgusting Houston Channel. I notice the NJ's location isn't very good for getting revenue also. NJ is pretty much funded primarily by taxdollars.
Interesting Video. Keep up the good work. I hope to see her one day resting peacfully in Texas waters :)
Just as with a lot of other things, knowing what doesn’t work can be as valuable as knowing what does. Glad she’s getting the love and newer ships ar evening taken better care of
Thanks Travis and Ryan, for all both of you do, good discussion.
Just arrived from the New Jersey, at the beginning of that video, was thinking why this guy never started a channel on Texas.. mea culpa😂
Great collaboration guys.
I'm a frequent visitor to the Hornet and Jeremiah O'Brien out here in the SF Bay Area. Love my local museum ships!
Enjoy you guys talking shop. Very insightful and straightforward. Nothing whimsical nor would I expect anything less.
Have you guys considered getting any interviews with the remaining sailors while you can add it to the tour?
We’ve got a lot of interviews of sailors from the past and those who are still alive have been interviewed before, afaik. There are a couple of reasons why we tend to see obituaries from crew members we don’t know about. They range from those who don’t want to talk about their service and even those who may not know the ship is here. For a wide range of reasons we don’t know they’re out there until we see the obituary posted online.
@@BattleshipTexas yeah I understand I hope we can get as many as possible there stories like themselves are American treasures.
You should watch the two Texas Parks and Wildlife UA-cam channel's USS Texas documentaries regarding both the first post-1948 1988-90 drydock of Texas and the one that interviewed so many veterans to commemorate the 50th year anniversary of D-Day so Texas was packed to the brim with hundreds of D-Day veterans, mostly USS Texas veterans. So many veterans were still alive back then and there are so many lovely interviews in that documentary. They all looked so happy and proud that Texas was still alive. They took one of the veterans who hid contraband food deep in the interior of Texas and he showed the camera crew where exactly that silly incident happened. He said he couldn't believe that after 40+ years he was able to see that area again.
They showed a Marine or Army veteran saluting one of the Texas crew veteran on camera and he thanked him for supporting him with naval artillery at either Normandy or the Pacific.
I work on LCI 713 in Portland oregon
Very interesting, thanks
This is great! i could listen to curator chat all day! love the way you’ve split the video across the two channels to support both the ladies! Can we call your collabs ‘New Texsey’?
15:10 Heartbreaking, but true. My biological father was 9 when the war ended. Died at 86 last December. Anyone who had ANY service was 8 years his senior, with few exceptions.
And like him and his regretting never getting in touch with any one of his old navy buds or the like, I bet most if not all of those guys died with the regret of never contacting y'all in their list. Round tuits ain't that fucking expensive. Don't die with regrets on your fucking list, folks. Take care of that shit, you may not be here tomorrow. And that's true for people of any age. You are worth it.
True true and every time I hear about these old vets passing away even though I know it's coming out bothers me.
that backdrop is crazy looking... Wow
Great video series. Thanks for having this discussion.
Wonderful! Great video BB-62!
are you planning to keep the current paint measure or are you considering other patterns such as measure 22 which she wore during d-day (especially since you don't have the catapult like she did that period). I personally think the different measure would add more interest beyond what she has worn since she became a museum.
Listening to the discussion there's two east coast battle ships USS New Jersey and Wisconsin maybe a cheaper way to get drydocking done would be to work a deal where both use the same yard and both get most of the same work done. One comes out the other goes in. As the blocks would already be set and services arranged. Cutting down on costs and buying in bulk for something like paint might save you both money.
Awesome
These ships are in good hands.
We try to up keep BB-55, coffer dam seems to be working great.
Queen Mary comes to mind. Bad management nearly lost it until long Beach took control is now doing much better and open.
I believe the most recent museum vessel to be dry docked was the USS Bowfin in Honolulu.
USS Cod in Cleveland just had her dry dock two years ago. Much needed repairs.
when the Sullivans in Buffalo started taking on water- did y'all reach out to them? i'm originally from there and love visiting both the Little Rock and The Sullivans.
Good teamwork
Loved this video. Thank you for making it :)
So Wise , Thank You . I helped Drydock an Aircraft Carrier , so I have an idea how much money ,work , Knowlage is Required to do the job RIGHT
Your sound person is really good.
When was intrepid last in dry dock. With that harbor it’s gotta be stuck in deep!?
When it come to museum ships, USS Texas is the class leader. She is the one for good or bad we learn from trying to keep our history alive.
I didn't know that the USS Texas has no A/C. I hope you are able to find a way to add that without spoiling the character of the ship.
One of these days I have got to get back to work on my 1/700 scale model of the USS Texas. When done, I will add her to my other WWII models at my American Legion Post 84 in Otsego Michigan.
Here is an idea for you. Once you are open again for visitors, how about letting an American Legion and/or Veterans of Foreign Wars use the USS Texas as their meeting place? Just a thought?
No AC, but the air venting is surprisingly good. Some space on the main deck had AC added. It is still cooler than being outside on the Gulf, not bad at all.
@@TEXwithNODS This Michigander knows about the Gulf Coast. When I was in the Air Force, I spent a year at Keesler AFB, Biloxi, MS going to 2 computer maintenance schools! The other 1/700 ship models at my legion Post are the USS Indianapolis, USS Arizona, USS Washington, USS South Dakota, USS Lexington, USS Enterprise, and USS Essex. All are painted for colors they wore during or at the start of the war.
That was a great insight into what all goes into keeping a museum ship going for the public. I would love for the USS Texas to outlast me. Good news is that won't be that long.
When will the Lexington be dry docked?
It has been said that the USS TEXAS BB35 will not return to its berth at San Jacinto Monument State Park. Baytown has also lost out getting the Texas.
Beaumont as well, it appears that she will finally be berthed in Galveston... Where is Galveston? Don't know, but it's very likely that it will be at the island.
Time to revisit USS North Carolina
Hmm, I started on double speed, but cut when I found out this is just a long conversation.
Hope to see these ships one day!!!
It would be great to spend a few days working on the Texas...
Volunteer of course...
preserving this for MULTIPLE Generations
1 Marine Division was activated aboard this ship. Marines are interested too. Semper Fi.
You would think that since these are historical to our country, there would be federal funding to help maintain these ships. Just like any other national park, sites, etc.
such an interesting point - 'the fuel mixed with sea water producing bacteria and acid - when we now live in a time of preserving more wartime exhibits better and longer, and the price of that preservation past and present and sharing it with other organisations, that history making conservers more savvy regarding recycling and scrapping, how we can turn scrap into gold - this is a fantastic project and seems to be well run
with the issue above raised, i wonder who made the decision back then to do that, what their qualifications were, what advice was given and by what experts, no names, just what they were and qualifications would be interesting to know - maybe nothing was known or thought of, keeping in mind its probable life time expectancy - maybe they were a good team, lets hope the current ones are best of all, but don't you wonder what horrors might come about in the future - THEY DID WHAT?
i give a classic example - some ex RAF guys were jacking up a 1950s aircraft, easy enough you think, one chap places the jacks and they begin to lift the plane, a sudden bang and the plane drops, a jack was badly placed under a wing drain plug (not a jacking location) pushing it through the wing, which then leaked diesel, a couple of gallons at least of inert liquid but keeps the wing from corrosion - the point is there were no markings, the chap never asked for a manual or asked for any assistance if it was correct before jacking, had no sense in fact to look at the aircrafts structure, ie the wing spar, looking at the rivets or any number of things to double check - the other point is, if you don't know, don't be frightened to ask, don't go off doing stuff alone if you don't know - but then the issue we had, is the old boy syndrome, 'i done this for years you know' yep it shows, you can't be helped
great update
PS, i guess Texas being WWI vintage must make her the longest surviving iron/steel ship - are there any others world wide?, i know we have an old rust bucket in dry dock in Southampton HMS M33, an odd thing, nicely kept although some interior was scrapped long before she became a museum piece, nothing compared to Texas
I am curious as to what was the first all steel museum ship and when was it turned into a museum ship?
It seems to be me that the Fed's need to take a hard look at the funding model for the country's proud naval history
Glad to see the progression of knowledge especially expanding revenue sources like youtube money to preserve these valuable ships. I hope to see these ships before I die but it is a long ways off being a busted poor Navy Chief living thousands of miles away from all of them in Idaho.
When talking about restoring different vessels from different eras, could you discuss wooden ships such as the USS Constitution which has been around for almost 250 years now and still has a lot of the original wood on it as opposed to steel ships that are around 100 years? Which aspects of them require more or less attention? Which is more costly taking into account the difference in size?
If I'm not Mistaken, the Constitution is maintained by the Navy
She is still preserved by the Navy. The Navy manages a forest in Ohio just for constitution
Question: were there any decisions made in terms of preservation of Texas that were good in hindsight?
You mean other than not selling her to the scrapyard..... right. What I'm not clear on is why not just remove the water problem altogether and put them on land with a cofferdam or what ever means there are now.
Ive asked several times about obtaining some scrap material to make commemorative hand made knives from. Not looking for more than a few pounds. Being a knife maker (obviously biased) can't imagine a better way to see that she lives on in posterity anyway possible. Who can i contact to inquire?