Audi B5 S4 Stage 3 K04 $10k+ Parts Haul - PB Garage 2.7T Build-Off Challenge
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- In this video I go over the intent and goals of my Stage 3 build. I also give a bit of history on my car background and general passion for building stuff.
Chapters below!!
0:00 Comedic Intro
1:13 Video Intro
2:11 Barry Background
4:27 Engine Rebuild
5:20 Turbos
5:45 Intercoolers
6:30 Inlets
6:47 Water Meth Injection
7:30 Fuel and Tuning
8:25 Exhaust
9:08 Clutch and Flywheel
10:30 Transmission
10:55 Engine / Trans Mounts
11:16 Drivetrain Stabilizer
11:50 Control Arms
12:34 Subframe
12:51 Coilovers
13:35 Rear Anti-Sway Bar
14:01 Brakes
14:32 Tires
15:30 Maintenance
17:12 Wrap up Video
17:39 Outtakes
More info on this build:
Audizine build thread:
www.audizine.com/forum/showth...
Audi B5 S4 2.7T K04 Engine Assembly
• Audi B5 S4 2.7T K04 En...
B5 2.7T 01E K04 Engine Pull and Build Specs:
• B5 2.7T 01E K04 Engine...
Links to other videos in the series:
B7 2.7T 01E STK Swap Specs and Motor Install:
• B7 2.7T 01E STK Swap S...
XSPower Stage 3 Turbo Kit Unboxing - 2.7T Build Off:
• XSPower Stage 3 Turbo ...
2.7 STK into B7 Avant Build - Part 1:
• 2.7 STK into B7 Avant ...
Audi DIY Center Diff 4:1 Mod:
• Audi DIY Center Diff 4...
Audi Subframe Bushing Replacement DIY - A4 S4 B6 B7:
• Audi Subframe Bushing ...
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I’m stoked I found your channel. Great video man. Most of my customers are running a walbro 450 or a DW350. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.
Thanks for the feedback and help, it's greatly appreciated! A lot of recommendations for the 450 pump... I think I'll be going that route.
The fuel pump is the last stock part on my build as well. You literally have the exact same setup as me, down to the exhaust minus the DPs. I'm considering a walbro 450 as well.
@German Elite Tuning What do you use for the B5.5 Passats? Can I add an inline pump to the existing system or do I need upgrade the intank pump? If so, do you have any recommendations? I haven't been successful finding any drop in upgrades. At this point I have a parts list for 300whp. Maybe I don't even need more pump....?????
Glad I ran into your channel, we need more B5 content like this!
Thanks! Lots more coming too!
that first scene literally hilarious bro
Thanks!
Great series you've got going on here with your 2.7t progress but also the progress of your friends taking their own paths. Will be very interesting to see how each build pans out. The cinematography and editing is also very pleasant to watch 👍.
Cheers from a fellow Audizine member (Dr.B6Banter)
Thank you very much for the feedback and support! The competition is fun and should be heating up in the next few months. Stay tuned 🙂
Fixing my 2000 B5 for this Summer cant wait. Great video👍👍
Seriously, summer couldn’t come soon enough!
This video was perfect dude. Nothing to change about it. The comedic intro. The back story. The details. Thanks for the content. We the b5 community appreciate it.
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it and we appreciate the feedback! 👍🏻👌🏻
Clean video. No thumbs down says it all.
Thanks! More coming soon!
cleanest stage 3 build ever
Thanks!!
I loved the intro man. Had me chuckling when you pulled off the sheetz.
Thanks! 😂
Great channel and great platform to build! 💯💯
Thank you! Fully agree, I love this platform.
That intro earned a sub it was well made.
Liked and subbed! Can't wait to see the journey!
Really appreciate the support! More to come.. soon
awesome video man! I just bought a 03 b6 1.8t Quattro from the dealership I worked at. currently working on some of the maintenance to the vehicle. I'm really happy I stumbled onto your video because I've been thinking a lot about doing some upgrades. it's really nice to get an engineer's perspective on things. I don't know a lot when it comes to Audi so I'm learning a lot by asking a lot of questions. you inspire me in wanting to go back to school and become a mechanical engineer. I cant wait to see the rest of the build!
Always good to hear from another enthusiast! We check the comments of all our videos so definitely don't hesitate to ask about anything we are doing.
And I'm glad I could provide some inspiration, hearing things like that motivate us to shoot more content. We truly love working on these cars and it's fun to be able to share some of the interesting stuff we're doing.
about the same passion, same job (mech eng canada) and can't decide the platform right now on my high power diy swap. 1st step done, I bought 2 wagon : A4 B7 and BMW E91, both manual, both awd. Id like to go 2.7tt in my b7, but high power goal are far without 15k$ in hands. N54 bmws seems to be more powerful and more reliable for the same power figure and bit cheaper. Anyway , right now Im looking all video and forums thread before choosing between a 2.7tt or n54. Your videos help me a lot. tks
Do the 2.7tt!!
Sounds like you have some cool options to play with. I’d vote for the 2.7 build as well but I’m biased 🙂
Hard choice in deed. Bmw can toggle awd/rwd and n54 sound like ish a 2jz. Very hard choice. Right now im asking lot of question. By chance the only current swap on audizine in b7 section is the guy in your video, so im asking few stuff. And hopefully see this built at eurokracy 2021
@@098cpt That's my brother Blake. If you have any specific swap questions (2.7 - B7) be sure to ask!
That's also super cool about being able to toggle and/rwd in the BMW, I never knew that existed.
Awesome video, love what all you guys are doing. Love the OEM+ design too. Thanks for taking the time to make these detailed, I'm in the process of doing a 2.7 swap + 6speed swap (02X) in my b6 s4 so this is extremely helpful. We're close in progress and design specs, and just thought I would drop a few ideas for what I'm doing. I got a great deal on F21's and and also decided on Bosch 633cc injectors, as Brad stated below the Walbro 450 pump is a solid choice, there is also a double 450 bracket that someone sells that allows you to easily run an additional fuel pump later.
I was concerned about NVH and it seems the majority comes from the engine mounts. I decided on 034 Street motor mounts. I decided on a Spullen differential mount and 034 rear diff carrier mounts. Poly sub-frame bushings for me but I'm told the solid ones hardly make a difference in NVH. My friends told me to stay away from solid motor mounts.
It sounds like you know what you're doing. You've made me check a few things I didn't think about..but just in case, here's a few idea's that may or may not help you.
aux coolant after run low temp sensor
USP Audi clutch line and metal slave conversion
RKX camshaft timing chain tensioner pads.
Keep the videos coming!
Great suggestions! You're not the first to suggest the 034 mounts so I'll definitely check those out. Same with the fuel pump.
I've already picked up the coolant sensors (in that bag of goodies). The other two things (clutch line and pads) are something I've missed, so I'll dig into those as well. Thank you!!
And yeah, definitely more videos coming!
Nice work
Love the basement shop it looks great! As for mounts I've personally run Stern mounts and 034 Street Density, on my SRM K24 car. 034's mounts definitely feel OEM and would be my rec for an oem+ build. Some JHM shift components (linkage/bushings) are also a great add imo!
Great choices on the build looks beautiful!
Thank you for the kind words!
I had completely forgotten about the 034 rubber (street / track) line of mounts. I think I will likely go this route, thanks!
I've been debating the JHM trans linkage stuff... might have to pull the trigger on that too.
Thanks again for the info!
that was soo funny!!!!! I am from Norway and I am vw/audi fan
Damn, that's one sexy parts bot! :D
Ya man, she's a darling ; )
Would love to see everything done with a lot of detail and information! I'm new to this platform and would love to learn as much as I can.
Keep checking our channel and especially the playlists and you'll see everything happen!
great video, i'd love to hear more about that 90!
Thanks!
It was a 1990 90 Quattro 20V and I decided to install a hybrid turbo T3 T04E Stage 3 with K26 turbine housing, huge compressor and tons of lag but hit hard up top. I also ran a regular K26 turbo when the T3 blew up once. Installed 034 standalone system and tuned it myself, blew it up twice (melted the pistons once and seized a main bearing at the end). Long story short, I ran it about 2-3 years fast and furious, had a blast and learned a ton. Eventually the body was rusting a lot and then the engine seized, I had just bought a house and needed to update the fleet (so I bought an 88 BMW 😂). So I parted it out. Great car, would love to get into another or maybe a B4, always loved the look of those.
ua-cam.com/video/M3DPJaBNaFk/v-deo.html
Yeah you can hear the car here on this video
@@PBGarage wow, that's an awesome story! always loved those cars, I have a set of C4s and am currently going down the same path with one of them 😅agreed, love the look of B4s! also, love the content man. keep it up!
NIce job on the vid. Love the b5 s4
Thanks for the feedback! Yup, love the chassis too. It's great
Amazing vid!
Thank you!
sub'd after 1min 26sec HAHA humor is always needed when dealing with B5's !
Thanks for the support, it is greatly appreciated!
Yessssss a proper build! I had to like and sub on two accounts, can't wait to see more. I'd just add relocation of N75 (secondary firewall) and battery (trunk).
Awesome!! Thanks for the double support, greatly appreciated! And thanks for the advice, I’ll look into those things for sure.
Master of Audi 2.7 t :D
Don't know about master but we try hard!
LOL AT INTRO 🤣🤣🤣
Glad to hear it made you laugh 😆
Makes me want a B5 😩
Do it!! They are an amazing chassis considering their age.
For the engine mounts - i used silver project mounts - cheap, but need to change hardware because they install 8.8grade bolts which breaks, orher thing is the car broke one of the engine mounts (passenger side engine lifts up, breaks bracket for engine/sway bar mount) i suggest you should upgrade it aswell, i used aluminum plates, welded on, lasted ok.
And if gearbox breaks, use tdi gearbox. Mine shredded 1-2nd gear 2 times, installed tdi one, same ratio, longer 4-5-6 gears.
Btw car made 700+ crank hp
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like you had a fast setup @ 700+ hp!!
Loved the video, very in depth to what anyone who purchases one of these should be doing during a rebuild stages. We've had our B5 for about 6 years now, and are looking to dust off our build series again. I think our engine is going to have to come out to really do it properly. Are you running a stock airbox on the car with the 3D printed MAF housing? We ordered an 034 intake over the holidays and are still waiting for it's arrival. Lots of folks run a Bosch 044, or a Walbro 450 fuel pump in their stage 3 setups. I think either of those will be the route we're going to take. Our car has K04's, but is missing some key components to be a Stage 3 car. We're definitely going to review the parts bin to see what similarities we have, definitely a few based on watching your video. BTW, we have RS4 motor mounts on our B5, and they are pretty chill on the NVH.
Thanks for the support!
Yes, stock S4 airbox, RS4 accordion, Hitachi sensor, 83mm ID, flow turbulence screen.. just hoping it holds up to underhood temps. I used ASA and based on some initial testing it should be okay but a more thorough test is required.
Thanks for the part recommendations as well. I'm leaning towards the 044 pump but a walbro 450 just popped up for sale on Audizine for a good price... we'll see.
Over the top
In the end that was about half of what I spent 😳 Amazing how much all the “while you’re in there” things can add up.
Great video man, I am currently building my 7th b5, finally found one that was worthy of keeping for quite a while. 100% stock one owner with 120k on it. Just did the gates timing belt kit and I ordered the project b5 spider hose replacement. Havent installed it yet but its pretty damn close to stock looking and let's you retain all the factory ends. Check it out and let me know what you think. Thanks again for all the great videos.
Sounds like a clean, well maintained car. The B5 chassis is definitely addictive, but 7 of them? You have a more serious problem haha just kidding. If I had room for 7 I would probably do it too.
Appreciate the support!!
have the same tires, 245/40R18. they are spectacular for the price. ive yet to hit their limit.
Yup, loving them so far! Although I can overpower them in first gear and sometimes second depending on the conditions 😈
look into the Q5 calipers. 2013-2015. bolt on to the oem b7a4 and retain the 320mm rotors but are 4 pot brembos with lots of pad options
Thanks for the recommendation!
Loving the content I’m doing a tial 605 build with a built bottom end on an allroad just waiting for parts to come back from machine shop
duuuuuude I wanna see this 605 allroad! Boinggggg!
Nice! That will be a rocket!
I believe tial discontinued the 605 kit, that was my turbo choice but now going w gtx2863
@@DikDrive you can still get 605.2 kit it’s 3500 with inlets and lines and everything
@@nashnelson2290 link please!
That’s why they make the parts-so you can buy them and make a stage 3 build.
Subbed!
Fantastic, thanks for the support!
Absolutely, I live watching others spend their money. Looking forward to watching. Keep those detailed videos coming.
You should have just installed a catch can, it would save you all the headaches that spider hose causes!!!!! skeet skeet skeet!
I know right!
You knuckle heads... lol
Lol nice. Just came across the channel. Will be checking out more.
Thanks! And definitely more to come!
@@PBGarage I had a customer recently ask me to help him with a water leak problem on his 2001 Nogaro blue s4. Has about the same upgrades you have. EXTREMELY fun car! I have always been a vw guy.....well that car has changed me. Smiles per miles is accurate (well , when you're not having issues that is haha)
Good to know...! I'm close to being finished with break-in and hoping to have it fully tuned by next weekend. I intend to post a detailed update video in the next few weeks with my thoughts and impressions on all the upgrades.
@@PBGarage Nice!!! I am very excited to hear your thoughts.
Nice aluminum hubs , and those aluminum coilovers very nice!! This thing is going to be clean as a baby's ass !!
You can launch it all day if you have the right set up rs4 limo proved it not just that an allroad train can take up to 1200hp an k04s stage 3 -6 puck clutch will hold any hp do your home work but you still have a nice set up💪🏽
Yup, agree, with the right upgrades you can send the car all day long. I was mostly taking a shot at Sean because I've launched his car before and made the clutch stink : )
Would love to join in on this friendly competition among you S4 guys. I've only got an A4 and four cylinders ... but I'll do my best to see if I can keep up. :) Game on? Tyler is tuning my A4 as well.
Sounds like a plan! We are always down to see different set ups and how they compare. Especially if its local, then there is no excuse.
fucking love this XD
Thanks Tyler!
Nice build👍youre s4 looks awesone...those rs6 rims look really well...did you have to upgrade the output shaft on the gear box to upgrade to the aluminium uprights?
Im restoring a b5 quattro 1.9tdi...i need to change my output shaft...be prepared with the pinch bolt on the aluminium uprights...haha the cast steel are more forgiving ...as im sure you know about...
Thanks!! Yeah I love the rims too. I’ve debated changing but these looks nice while being OEM and suit the car well.
No upgrade to the output shafts at all. Lower control arms are different and the wheel bearings too. ABS sensor as well.
As far as pinch bolts go, this is a summer car only so they should never be a problem 🙂
@@PBGarage yes lower control arms have the 16mm tapered ball joint on the aluminium over the 22mm tapered ball joint on the cast steel..there is not much of a weight difference between the two but obviously the wheel bearing is alot easier to change...cast steel upright have to be removed to press out the bearing...maybe your s4 has the revised output shaft on the gearbox to take the b6/b7 cv axle...my quattro is 1997 but I can change the output shaft at a later date...someday😅the intro was brilliant😅😅..hopefully shes out of her sulk by now😂they love being pampered
haha yeah she's good now ; )
I've been considering an update video where all the parts in bed are the old ones 😂
you should check out the 034 driveshaft carrier bearing as well!
Replaced that part last year : )
I just ordered one of these for my allroad!
I think I have a modified 17mm wrench for taking the driveshaft apart. It's a fun job : )
I feel like this build would be a lot better if you were using a catch can!
I definitely set myself up for these comments didn’t I 🤦
I have never had one and no issues..stage4
@@flytech78 me either. Its a waste of time. Three years into a freshly rebuild engine and the inlets are still bone dry.
B5 rs4 clutch was not good with my stage 3... ring racing with rs4 flywheel. I really like my stirn motor mounts.
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it!
You say you’re gonna lose your mind if someone says catch can yet you’ll lose your mind once you see how caked your valves will get down the road.
I haven’t heard of that being an issue with the 2.7. Something I’ll keep an eye on, though 👍🏻
@@PBGarage Pretty common thing on the Audizine forums. I can provide links if you can’t find them. 👍
Just with how tight that engine bay is with that hot V configuration. You’re gonna really lose your mind when you’re gonna have to pull everything apart. Granted if everything is healthy and ideal then you’ll have minimal blow by. But at the end of the day the valves are getting coated day by day. Every heat cycle just builds more and more carbon which greatly and drastically hinders performance as well as efficiency.
LMAO Love it 💯😂
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
sick we need to see a 2.7 swap done into a b7 a4 i want to do that swap so bad
You came to the right place we’ve got a bunch of videos of Blake doing exactly that to his B7 A4 Avant.
Did the A4 B7 2.7t swap a year ago. Building another 2.7t to swap out sometime in the future
Hope you had the rotating ASSEMBLY balanced the bob weight is DIFFERENT now.FYI those rods are weaker then ie cheaper rods I've had both .compared at a machine shop
Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciated. I was considering balancing the rotating assembly... I'll definitely look into that some more.
For the rods, that may be the case however for my current build I'm confident they will be okay. Depending on how the next phase unfolds (a few years away) I may consider alternatives. Do you have any links / info on failed Maxspeeding rods and at what level of power? Thanks!
How the maxxpeeding rods holding up until now? Any problem with those?
Have not had a chance to red line it yet, since its still on an engine stand, but stay tuned!
Good luck with that clutch.I had the same one and it didn't hold had to get a ringer stage 4+.they're $900 and no self adjusting pp.they suck
Thanks again for the feedback. What was your engine setup (turbo / power / etc) and also your driving style? What flywheel did you use?
Would you mind sharing the File for the MAF with us? Awesome work!
Thanks!
For the MAF, the part does require some post-processing on a lathe where the two ends mate up, so it's not really a 'print and go' type of design unfortunately.
Your downpipes might not clear your AWE DTS. Be prepared to grind some material out. Go with stern motor mounts. Help your life out with a catch can. Other than that, looks perfect
Thanks for the info on clearing the DTS, I did not know that! I'll look into the stern mounts and not the catch can :P
And thanks for the feedback!
Please post a link to you Audizene build thread!! Thanks!
"It's in the video description" lol
www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/850678-Barry-s-2001-B5-S4-Build-Thread
anchor solid engine mounts on amazon are cheaper and good quality.
I agree I think solid mounts from Amazon are the only way to do this project.
I should dig out the old hockey puck engine mounts from my Audi 90 build and adapt those for this build.
How long did it take you to pull engine?
A few hours
Your not insane. My b5 has been down for 5 years but…. Garret GT3582 with tial vee band exhaust housing. And Arp 6bolts with 2.8na heads and super valves, ti retainer’s and running coolant to the turbo and waste gate.
Haha glad I’m not the only one! Your setup sounds deadly 👹 It will be a beast!
Can you put the link to flywheel and parts number of clutch set?
Clutch Kit: (Rock Auto)
2007 AUDI RS4 4.2L V8
LUK 02050 (02-050) Clutch Kit (8708.93.2900)
Flywheel: (got it from TTV in the UK)
TTV Racing 3509 Lite SteelFlywheel
Hope this helps!
Link to Flywheel:
ttvracing.com/product/audi-s4-rs4-2-7t-lite-to-b7-rs4-clutch/?referrer=product-listing&=true&width=80%&height=100%&type=flywheels&engine=audi-s4-rs4-2-7-turbo&manufacturer=audi
Is the button disk necessary for this setup?
Not sure what you’re referring to?
Sorry the flywheel you mentioned in the video. Ttv
Ahh okay! For the B7 RS4 clutch kit, yes, it’s required. I don’t think the B7 flywheel works because it’s V8. So this TTV flywheel fits the 2.7 and accepts the B7 RS4 clutch kit (got it from Rockauto for less than $200). No other parts required!
I’m fully stage 3 I Would
Like the TT k04s but you talking 8k an better 😩
Which turbos do you have that you are Stage 3?
B5 s4s are not reliable but if you take care of them they will last like most of the parts your using 630 injectors are good but I would use something bigger so u don't have to run the duty cycle so high and I would say use the walbro 450 fuel pump
Agree, do all the maintenance and they are perfect. And thanks for the fueling tips!
What’s the exact spec of those wheels?
They are PN 8E0601025AK:
Brand: Ronal
Rim Diameter: 18
Rim Width: 8J
Offset: ET43
Stud Diameter: 112
Centre Bore: 57.1mm
@@PBGarage Perfect, thank you. The silver really sets them off. Is it Audi Silver?
@@PBGarage what paint code have they been painted with?
No idea, but they are factory finish if that helps?
455 fuel pump whalboro
Sounds like the route I'll be going!
It's nothing serious wrong with u ... I'm married I feel the same about my A4 b6 love it
Good to know it's not just me!
How much in total did it cost to do everything?
I added up everything in the video (incl. Tires) and it came out to just over $10k. I still have a few things to get (fuel pump, mounts, rear main seal, other misc gaskets / hardware / hoses), so I imagine another $1500 or so on top of that. Keep in mind I went OEM wherever possible, including all my coolant lines and PCV spider hose, those were expensive but should last another 20 years. Hope this helps!
A hahaha 😝 dude parts in the bed I’m down brother 🤙🤙💕💕🤣
😂 glad you enjoyed it!
Treat her right
You know how to count! ??? With the Bosch 044 fuel pump, you will be looking for pistons in the sump. This fuel pump barely pumps 250 liters per hour at a pressure of 3 bars. If you recalculate with boost and pressure in the fuel rail under 6 bar, then you get 180 liters per hour in general.
With 630СС injectors it is complete idiocy to install such a pump !!!
Yes, I learned to count when I was about 2 or 3 like most people. I almost ran out of fingers counting up to 4 bar on one hand, good thing I didn't have to go all the way up to 6 bar as you suggested otherwise I'd need two hands and a calculator, but last time I checked the Bosch 044 fuel pump delivers 265 LPH at 4 bar, which is more than adequate for my 630cc injectors at 54% duty cycle. Actually, I'm still using the stock fuel pump and believe it or not, fuel ratios on the current and modest 19psi tune are perfectly fine!
Thank you for your feedback ; )
store.034motorsport.com/billet-drop-in-fuel-pump-upgrade-kit-bosch-044-for-audi-applications.html
One..... Two... Thirteen... Forty Eight.... Wankel....
Well Answered.