Super Stinson Speed - Climb and takeoff performance update.
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- The Super Stinson 108 performance numbers have been calculated and the speed, climb rate and takeoff distance have been noted. In this video I go over what has changed and also as a bonus add why I went the way I did. Hope you enjoy,
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Impressive. This seems like an ideal Michigan setup. Good stol but also good cross country capability.
The cross country is the reason I didn't get a Super Cub. I really wanted to keep at least 105 kts. I probably get that. The STOL is great, in Michigan we need to outclimb the trees and this does let you do that.
I seen your Stinson video. Great work. I had a Stinson 108-2 and installed the continental 0470 on it. At the time of the new install , I had the Frankly 165 hp. Great engine. The improvements with the 0470 was outstanding. I installed the constant speed prop and already had VGs on with the 31inch bush wheels. I climbed at 1,400 ft a minute and speed would cruise 130mph. I burned 12 gallons per hour. I could take off in less than 150ft with full fuel, 2 people and some gear. My landing was less than 150 ft. I fly and live in Alaska. Have a lot of experience With flying Stinsons here in Alaska. I sold my plane after 38 years of flying it
Two years ago for $84,000. Was looking to build up another one. I do enjoy your videos. Ken in Alaska.
Well the climb on this one is alright but I'm not going to see 130mph in Cruise. Thanks for watching the video and please keep us updated on your airplanes progress. The 108 is a super airframe.
I just love these airplanes. A friend used to have on in Arizona and it was such a pleasure to fly and ride in. Beautiful looks are a big plus.
Not many people who flow them. Don't like them.
Love the name you've given the plane!
I didn't give it the name I called it "Baby Blue" and a friend claimed that no Baby Blue the inside looks like a velvet Elvis picture, its "Blue Suede Shoes" I fly with a tough crowd so the name suck. I've come to embrace it.
Thats some very nice performance increases and that rate of climb is awesome!!!
It was impressive! Just watching the view of the ground falling away from with the cockpit video I could tell you were climbing away from the ground like (as the old saying goes) a homesick angel!!!!
I can see why youre happy with it! I would be too! No doubt youll get even shorter take off rolls as you get used to it! Thanks for letting us follow along! Im looking forward to the next video!
Glad you are enjoying the videos and thanks for following along. I was hoping the viewers would get some sense of how fast the ground was moving away. Really the video does not do it justice. People who own Stinson think I am entering a departure stall the first time onboard when I take off, they look at the ASI and see 75-80 and can't believe the angle of climb.
Nicely done, sir.
Thanks for watching the video. This was not only me, I had the local FSDO, mechanics, engine builders, even friends getting me data, it was really a team effort and I get to reap the benefits!
I've heard about dancing on the pedals with taildraggers, didn't know it also applied while flying at cruise.
They call me Scooter for a reason
Great info. Thanks.
Hope it leads you to getting a Super Stinson.
I have really enjoyed your videos! I have a 108-1 with the O-360, but I am not getting near your performance. Mine is also VERY heavy. I would love to pick your brain about your airplane. - Jason
Pick away. I am testing at cool temperatures so that helps. As time goes on I am finding that weight is a huge factor and adds up quickly.
Thanks I thought about doing this. Thanks for providing this verification!
It's a much more fun airplane. I'm glad I did it.
Very informative, well done. Just how cold is it up there? Knees' and voice too.
The knee thing is part of my "Scooter" call sign. I think the voice is just my intercom. It's in the 30's and 40's.
Great report. Thanks. How long does it take to repitch the prop? can you do it in the field with carryable tools?
The paperwork says 15 minuets. That seems to be accurate. The re-pitch requires a torque wrench and digital level. So I guess you could carry that stuff if you are certified to use them or flying an experimental aircraft.
Nice video again Scooter. How long does it take to adjust to prop on the ground? And what the process. Maybe make a quick video on that ?
I do like the simplicity of a (non constant speed prop) especially for initial cost.
The paperwork claims it takes 15 minutes to adjust. From what I can see it's about working. Next time I have my mechanic adjusted I'll try to take a video. His brother and
I was thinking Continental IO-360 as an option, but the then I answered with more questions. Is there an STC for that engine. Converting to Fuel Injection could be a thing, Can your run that with a fixed prop. That nice Flat 6 sound and 215 HP could be nice. But as you point out, at what fuel burn rate.
The Continental IO-360 is not an option for the dash 2. Only the dash 3. In the dash three that might be a very viable option, It has 10 gallons more fuel to offset the higher fuel burn, 200 horsepower plus would be nice, You're still going to add weight and CG shift but the dash 3 has a 250 lb higher gross weight.
This is super cool! Is the engine new or is out of another plane? (This is Nicholas btw)
It was out of another airplane that had an accident in the Bahamas. I purchased it from a scrap yard, then had it rebuilt to new spec. Most of the parts are new and if not they went through magnaflux non destructive testing. This is common practice in aviation.
Hi scooter. Did you keep the vacuum system for your DG when you got the AV-30? If so was it electrical or Venturi
It's electric. I have the AV-30 so I could get rid of the vacuum system instruments plus pipes was a 8 pound reduction.
Have you ever been to 5d5? There is a very cool pancake breakfast fly-in every august
Woosley is a great little field. I think I have a video that features 5D5. Camped there a few times.
How many hours to break even with the avgas based on install price- Franklin core selling price?
That is a good question. I did the math to see if over time I would continue to spend more or if the Lycoming would lower cost per hour of flying and if so how long to break even. I based that number on standard maintenance. With the Franklin the manual says top overhaul around 600 hours, 1200 TBO, I used 25 hour oil changes with 50 hours on a filter, I found spark plugs lasted around 300 hours, fuel bun of around 10.5 gallons per hour. With the Lycoming I used 2000TBO, no top end OH since most Lycoming's make TBO without a new top, 50 hour oil changes, spark plugs at 1000, 9 gallons fuel burn. I also included the selling price of my old firewall forward toward the front end cot of the Lycoming. What I didn't include was unplanned maintenance since I didn't know, what I have found in the past is the Franklin was an unplanned maintenance hog and Lycoming's are fairly reliable. With those costs I found using my previous engine (around 450 hours) I would break even at 2000 hours. That would be around 10 -12 years the amount I fly. The Franklin has been the highest operating cost per hour engine I have owned.
Alison 250 NEXT!
That would be one big upgrade!
Definitely makes me wanna reprop
I believe the prop is 1/2 the performance increase in performance so I highly recommend this thing.
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1st? 1st comment? I think you commented the same way prior video, not sure what it means. Anyway thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
Run your 360 on mogas?
No, I've been using avgas and properly leaning. I'll get the STC when we fly out west.