Awesome channel, and great covers of Gentoo! Really helpful videos! Maybe the series could include something about app-portage/layman and i think then it could be a full series for gentoo beginners.
Amazing. Because of the second Lockdown here in germany I got bored out and ran into the rabbit hole called Gnu/Linux. So after tinkering around with many distros I decided to learn gentoo linux. I like the idea of having full controll of the system and have to take care. It is like creating a pet wich also needs attention and someone to take care of. I allready managed to install the base of gentoo in virtualbox but I had some struggle to figure out how to install xorg. I'm exited to try out your second Tutorial tomorow. I'd like to install lxde and tinker around with that. Wish me luck I'll keep you up to date. See you later, Sensei! :)
If you don't have important reason to use lxde, I would advice against it. Install LXQt instead. That's as light and continuously developed. It also has metapackage on Gentoo, which should make installing it easier. And I think it's better nowadays in pretty much every way. But if you go with LXDE route, I would highly appreciate if you would comment here how much your system uses RAM when you are booted on the desktop.
@@juzujuzu4555 I had less than 150 MB of RAM with LXDE, 172 MB for XFCE, 187 for LXQt, less than 350 for Plasma, less than 650 for Gnome 3 and around 100 for a WM.
@@serge5046 With the latest kernel and software? I would love to see your kernel config. LXDE used to be really efficient, but XFCE having less than LXQt seems really odd. I don't know how Mate should stack up here. But I know having Virtualization Qemu/KVM, Bluetooth, Wifi and the rest have quite a big of impact on the memory requirements. Not that I really need many of those, but I just wanted to build Gentoo that supports everything my laptop offers. I kind of expect my binaries to be quite a lot bigger and more memory hungry because of using the most aggressive flags possible (though only those that allow the compiler to choose what to do). But thank you for this message, as I now have even more faith that building that totally minimalistic Gentoo for my moms ancient 32bit single core/thread Celeron laptop makes sense. With distcc of course.
@@serge5046 I just checked, if I disable Mate's bluetooth applet, that saves 50MB, disabling BT from kernel would save some additional memory too. Perhaps not having 1080p background image would save 8MB. So Mate would take about 190MB with the aggressive optimization flags. Though LTO reduce the code size, others increase it usually by quite alot. With size based optimization I think it might be close to 150MB with Mate desktop and all the drivers + virtualization, except bluetooth. Thus I need to get that distcc service running so I can compile fully minimalistic 32bit Gentoos for my ancient hardware. 32bit reduces the size a little, desktop machines need less drivers, dropping virtualization helps, and actually with those systems it might be best to drop the whole loadable modules infra and just add everything to the kernel. Nothing makes me happier than maxed out optimizations with ancient but still usable hardware like Pentium 4 onward.
Well done with the videos! You really helped me sort out my MANY attempts to install Gentoo "properly" I think much of my problem was during my start and stopping the video. I would miss several steps. To the point I started writing a "script". Also I must have missed the starting the vmtools and adding it to the services
amazing tutorial! however I got a question. what is the difference between emerge --ask and emerge --ask --verbose . what does the --verbose option do exactly? also can it be used without --ask?
Thanks! Which drivers in particular? The Gentoo WiKi/handbook covers everything. For graphics drivers, you just need to specify what video card you have like I did in 2nd Gentoo install video and it will take care of that. If you have Nvidia, you'll have to follow their Nvidia guide. I can't help with that part since it's proprietary drivers and I don't have an Nvidia GPU.
I use Virt-Manager (Qemu/Kvm) as well.. I have setup quite a few VMs with it, and I have my video setup as "QXL". I would be curious what you did to fix the resolution setting from being lost.. Thought it might be in some .xinit file or something but not sure.. Hope you could point me the right direction.
If you mean from a KDE guest, you need to stop the Kscreen background process. Then you can create a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-Monitor.conf and in there you'll put in an Xorg config with basic screen and monitor settings where you set the preferred resolution.
Let's say on a hypothetical situation that I went on a trip in which I won't have access to my computer. What could I do to mitigate the possible conflicts of not updating the system on Gentoo/Arch?
If you don't have access to your system considering no one else is able to access your computer it is already safe. If not then ssh or relying on the person who has the access to the computer is the only way.
Ishan answered well. What you could also do if you don't mind leaving your computer on while you're way, is have a cron script run an update automatically every week.
thanks alot. Got my gentoo up and running following your kind.. still need to read alot for sure but your tutorial explained well
Great to hear!
@@Doriandotslash - Yea, have to say the 3-vids help me a lot to get back in using Gentoo after 10-years, but I am back, thanks to you...!!
Awesome channel, and great covers of Gentoo! Really helpful videos! Maybe the series could include something about app-portage/layman and i think then it could be a full series for gentoo beginners.
Great suggestion! I haven't played around with Layman too much but I'll be looking into it for sure.
@@Doriandotslash sorry for this being a bit random but layman shouldnt be used as its missing some overlays you should really use eselect repository
@@sooshi9314 I never ended up trying it out.
Ah ok
Amazing. Because of the second Lockdown here in germany I got bored out and ran into the rabbit hole called Gnu/Linux. So after tinkering around with many distros I decided to learn gentoo linux. I like the idea of having full controll of the system and have to take care. It is like creating a pet wich also needs attention and someone to take care of.
I allready managed to install the base of gentoo in virtualbox but I had some struggle to figure out how to install xorg.
I'm exited to try out your second Tutorial tomorow. I'd like to install lxde and tinker around with that.
Wish me luck I'll keep you up to date. See you later, Sensei! :)
If you don't have important reason to use lxde, I would advice against it. Install LXQt instead. That's as light and continuously developed. It also has metapackage on Gentoo, which should make installing it easier. And I think it's better nowadays in pretty much every way.
But if you go with LXDE route, I would highly appreciate if you would comment here how much your system uses RAM when you are booted on the desktop.
Awesome to hear! Good luck to you, and I hope this is also a great learning experience. It’s worth it! Cheers
@@juzujuzu4555 I had less than 150 MB of RAM with LXDE, 172 MB for XFCE, 187 for LXQt, less than 350 for Plasma, less than 650 for Gnome 3 and around 100 for a WM.
@@serge5046 With the latest kernel and software? I would love to see your kernel config.
LXDE used to be really efficient, but XFCE having less than LXQt seems really odd. I don't know how Mate should stack up here.
But I know having Virtualization Qemu/KVM, Bluetooth, Wifi and the rest have quite a big of impact on the memory requirements. Not that I really need many of those, but I just wanted to build Gentoo that supports everything my laptop offers.
I kind of expect my binaries to be quite a lot bigger and more memory hungry because of using the most aggressive flags possible (though only those that allow the compiler to choose what to do).
But thank you for this message, as I now have even more faith that building that totally minimalistic Gentoo for my moms ancient 32bit single core/thread Celeron laptop makes sense. With distcc of course.
@@serge5046 I just checked, if I disable Mate's bluetooth applet, that saves 50MB, disabling BT from kernel would save some additional memory too. Perhaps not having 1080p background image would save 8MB. So Mate would take about 190MB with the aggressive optimization flags. Though LTO reduce the code size, others increase it usually by quite alot. With size based optimization I think it might be close to 150MB with Mate desktop and all the drivers + virtualization, except bluetooth.
Thus I need to get that distcc service running so I can compile fully minimalistic 32bit Gentoos for my ancient hardware. 32bit reduces the size a little, desktop machines need less drivers, dropping virtualization helps, and actually with those systems it might be best to drop the whole loadable modules infra and just add everything to the kernel.
Nothing makes me happier than maxed out optimizations with ancient but still usable hardware like Pentium 4 onward.
Well done with the videos! You really helped me sort out my MANY attempts to install Gentoo "properly"
I think much of my problem was during my start and stopping the video. I would miss several steps. To the point I started writing a "script".
Also I must have missed the starting the vmtools and adding it to the services
amazing tutorial! however I got a question. what is the difference between emerge --ask and emerge --ask --verbose . what does the --verbose option do exactly? also can it be used without --ask?
hey there the --verbose option is just giving extra info and it can be used without --ask
Thank you, what a nice video! Could you make a video about installing drivers on gentoo please? Thank you so much.
Thanks! Which drivers in particular? The Gentoo WiKi/handbook covers everything. For graphics drivers, you just need to specify what video card you have like I did in 2nd Gentoo install video and it will take care of that. If you have Nvidia, you'll have to follow their Nvidia guide. I can't help with that part since it's proprietary drivers and I don't have an Nvidia GPU.
@@Doriandotslash thank you so much ^^, we should capture a video together :)
im runing gentoo on my ps4 i cant just update everything and expect that gentoo still work ?
Hello can help , I'm trying to install firewalld on gentoo and get error ncurses
How I make correct to install firewalld?
Thank you .
I use Virt-Manager (Qemu/Kvm) as well.. I have setup quite a few VMs with it, and I have my video setup as "QXL". I would be curious what you did to fix the resolution setting from being lost.. Thought it might be in some .xinit file or something but not sure.. Hope you could point me the right direction.
If you mean from a KDE guest, you need to stop the Kscreen background process. Then you can create a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-Monitor.conf and in there you'll put in an Xorg config with basic screen and monitor settings where you set the preferred resolution.
so how do i add flatpak to gentoo what are the commands?
Let's say on a hypothetical situation that I went on a trip in which I won't have access to my computer. What could I do to mitigate the possible conflicts of not updating the system on Gentoo/Arch?
If you don't have access to your system considering no one else is able to access your computer it is already safe. If not then ssh or relying on the person who has the access to the computer is the only way.
Ishan answered well. What you could also do if you don't mind leaving your computer on while you're way, is have a cron script run an update automatically every week.
Why does anyone ever use gentoo anyway?
To customize your whole system and build everything from scratch. Gentoo is the most glorious OS ever created.
@ DorianDotSlash Awsome work.....my kde-apps/dolphin sows [masked]...can you please help me to solve this error