How Many Sets Per Muscle? We Examine the Science

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  • @HouseofHypertrophy
    @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +18

    Hey All, Feel free to check out the Alpha Progression App: alphaprogression.com/HOUSEOFHYPERTROPHY
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:52 Part I: Meta-Analytic Data
    4:19 Part II: Additional Key Points
    7:10 Part III: Individual Differences
    10:16 Part IV: Summary

    • @4RI3L
      @4RI3L Рік тому

      Will this app help me? I just want to build some muscle not spending whole life in the gym.

    • @undeniabletruth-HIT
      @undeniabletruth-HIT Рік тому +1

      The most important factors are intensity and volume, time under tension should be measured for volume not sets and reps

  • @Maximum_Natural_Muscle
    @Maximum_Natural_Muscle Рік тому +130

    The "How many sets" depends on 3 FACTORS.
    1) The TECHNIQUE-FORM of the REPS execution.
    2) MIND-MUSCLE connection ability.
    3) The how close you are going to FAILURE(intensity).
    Having a CORRECT rep form+having a perfect mind-muscle connection+going close or to failure means that you need LESS sets in order to give the OPTIMAL stimulus for growth.

    • @robmo6505
      @robmo6505 Рік тому +4

      Agreed, I was about to say the same thing although not just going to failure. There's a difference going to failure using significant effort, and hitting failure with your brain screaming with effort.

    • @SatanFollower1
      @SatanFollower1 Рік тому +2

      Fool u said 2 two times, anyway another factor is time in between sets, the more time in between sets the less sets u need to do

    • @BlackSpice
      @BlackSpice Рік тому

      @@SatanFollower1 I think It also depends on exercise selection. Compound is not gonna cut it

    • @JoaoTeniko
      @JoaoTeniko Рік тому

      Yes, and logically everyone can put this to the test. If you do like 4 exercises per muscle group (depending on the muscle ofc), you will see that the muscle fatigue gets higher and higher, so eventually you can not perform with all the aspects you mention at 100%. So either you lower the weight (which still is going to be very tough) or you lower the reps.
      If you want to test it guys, just find what is your RM weight for 3 different exercises of a muscle group, and then do 70% RM of them, aiming for 10 to 12 reps. Let us know if you manage to do every single rep and exercise with all these aspects mentioned by @Natural_Maximum_Hypertrophy. ;)
      What can I assure you, is that you need to hydrate yourself and you will feel your muscle blowing out and fatigue at the end, nevertheless, you will feel some soreness but able to move, don't worry (maybe for the legs no ahhahahahahaha) Blessings

    • @danielmccarthy2445
      @danielmccarthy2445 Рік тому +1

      Thank you

  • @Wayf4rer
    @Wayf4rer Рік тому +11

    Having been on both sides of the fence and tried just about everything, I can say it all works. The only advantage HIT tends to have is that you spend a lot less time in the gym, which is completely worth it when you're feeling burned out from training with so much volume for so long.

    • @adamalucard1288
      @adamalucard1288 Рік тому +2

      sounds like part of what makes that work is the slingshotting caused by the change in stimulus

    • @FutureProductionz239
      @FutureProductionz239 6 місяців тому

      I feel like it's harder to put on weight with high volume

  • @NeilDunford-u9d
    @NeilDunford-u9d Рік тому +4

    The best research - is on yourself & your results.
    You just need to keep track of what you're doing.

  • @kjngjr2637
    @kjngjr2637 Рік тому +55

    30 sets triceps a week is just insane

    • @corenko
      @corenko Рік тому +39

      30 sets of any muscle per week is insane

    • @insurgentbroccoli
      @insurgentbroccoli Рік тому +4

      considering that triceps is one of the most common muscle we use in our daily life, i cannot imagine the pain those individuals suffered after exercising

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +32

      It's a lot no doubt, but bear in mind that includes both compound and isolation movements

    • @drno62
      @drno62 Рік тому +1

      @@corenko Maybe, but some people are capable of gaining from it, so it may be worthwhile for them, at the very least for peaking

    • @하체밀기당기기하체팔
      @하체밀기당기기하체팔 Рік тому +17

      10 sets of chest press, 10 sets of shoulder press, 10 sets of triceps press, extention are totally 30 sets of triceps

  • @vekonglengkong
    @vekonglengkong Рік тому +9

    Everybody is different. I found Dropset is the most effective for me. It's intense, time efficient, & no need for lots of sets or reps.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Рік тому

      I like drop sets for some things like speeding up my bench work but for many exercises I've changed to instead of doing 3 sets every time after the second set (assuming both sets were done intensely to where I'd just gas out on the third if at the same weight) I switch to a different variation or even entirely different exercise and get some more variety in in the same amount of time.

    • @richardmenz3257
      @richardmenz3257 8 місяців тому

      I mean drop sets your doing another set and in a shorter time. Each time you drop it is another set if you go to failure. It def way more time effect

  • @LevysFitness
    @LevysFitness Рік тому +2

    Such an amazing and useful video!!
    And the edit was WOW.💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @davifurtado6534
    @davifurtado6534 Рік тому +40

    I truly believe the "12~15 sets per week" recommendation for the regular population is because they don't go even nearly close to failure, so they need lots of sets to compensate that. That is not bad at all, olympic trainers usually train like this, but if you are an advanced lifter and you have good technique and go to the perfect near failure on your sets, you can absolutely get away with 6~9 sets per week

    • @nunninkav
      @nunninkav Рік тому +9

      Agreed 100%. The harder you can train, the less sets you need.

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Рік тому +2

      @@nunninkav Especially as you get older. I do around 6 proper working sets per bodypart per week and at the end of the working set, I'm knackered. I quickly recover but there is no need to do any more.

    • @daynemin
      @daynemin Рік тому

      I wonder if body proportions have much to do with it as well? Long arms, legs lever planes. Long individuals may not need as much volume.

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Рік тому

      @@daynemin or they need more. There must be millions of variables.

    • @ericswidler8743
      @ericswidler8743 Рік тому

      ​@@nunninkavand the less you can do. If I add more sets the intensity of each goes down.

  • @ethanpispas4098
    @ethanpispas4098 Рік тому +21

    Well we can debate this until the end of time, but the fact of the matter is that if you are an advanced, strong and already jacked, natural individual, you are not handling more than 20 high quality (failure or very close with long rests) sets per week. You will start having injuries, weird pains, feeling tired and unmotivated, decreased performance (one or more of theses), after a few weeks. Sure there WILL be some, VERY FEW individuals who will be able to do it, but 90% of people won't. Now, if you are relatively new to lifting, in your early 20s, with no day job, no stress, and you are not very strong, you might be able to do it and handle it for quite some time.

    • @kamacazi8
      @kamacazi8 5 місяців тому +1

      ... wrong on twenty levels lmao. 20 sets per week? wtf are you on?? how many videos have you regurgitated ??? .. nvm. Enjoy the likes. enjoy the videos, enjoy not using a profile picture. I am sure you are natural and doing awesome .....
      I am just glad these videos exist and people like you. going to the gym for 40 mins and leaving me to do my sets. while you show 0 growth. seriously seen it for 20 years, in and out and looking the same. but wtf would I know. I don't follow 'modern gym science' as god given lmao GOOD LUCK!

  • @utubebrowseupload
    @utubebrowseupload Рік тому +6

    Great video, well explained, not too long and informative! keep it up

  • @santiagobodhi7075
    @santiagobodhi7075 8 місяців тому

    Just wanted to say your channel is truly great man it's packed with great information in such a digestible format, thank you!

  • @ForzaOwnz
    @ForzaOwnz Рік тому +5

    This just really shows how people need to experiment with different rep ranges, volume and rest times Everyone is different and there is no perfect training program for everyone

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Рік тому +1

      Yeah and different exercises will benefit from different ranges. My deadlifts were doing well with low frequency but bench was making no progress until I upped the volume and spread out it across the week.

  • @GuaridoNutri
    @GuaridoNutri Рік тому +5

    i like always starting at 6-8 weekly sets and ramp it up depending o priority up to maximum of 20 sets, i choose 2 or 3 muscle groups to ramp up tho

  • @marcelobarbosaferreira91
    @marcelobarbosaferreira91 Рік тому +5

    That's actually very short (

    • @mcshamkraken4448
      @mcshamkraken4448 3 місяці тому +1

      6 to 10 minute rest periods are for most people, highly impractical. A workout with 6 sets with have an hour of rest. So, either the person has to be at the gym for 2.5 hours or so just to get near 15 sets with most of their time sitting around

  • @sk8iny0
    @sk8iny0 9 місяців тому

    Man, I want to kindly thank you for making these videos super clear and to the point. I'm not a bodybuilder but I do martial arts and I'm currently in the process of going up a weightclass. I don't have time to do endless research on how to get this done so your channel is really helping me out!

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  9 місяців тому +1

      Hey dude, thank you so much. This is really awesome to hear! Best of luck going up in weightclasses, I know you'll do awesome :)

  • @davidlakes5087
    @davidlakes5087 Рік тому +1

    At 0:36 I believe it should be “at most 3 reps from failure”.
    Your research-based analysis is fantastic!

  • @jamesm.9285
    @jamesm.9285 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again! Love these videos. The interesting thing to see would be these data reconciled with the effects of different intensities across set ranges.

  • @Minwook-hg9mr
    @Minwook-hg9mr Рік тому +104

    You know it's a good morning when you wake up to a House of Hypertrophy video.

  • @nunninkav
    @nunninkav Рік тому +3

    It is my hypothesis that the people who respond to the lower sets, are just pushing themselves harder. So, if you like to train really hard 10-12 sets is optimal. If you like to go through the motions and not train to failure, you may need 18.

  • @davidlakes5087
    @davidlakes5087 Рік тому

    At 0:36 I believe it should be “at most 3 sets from failure”.
    Your research-based analysis is fantastic!

  • @BradleyCTurner
    @BradleyCTurner Рік тому +3

    its possible the reason people respond to vastly different volume numbers is due to work capacity, or ability to push failure, some people are just very bad with pushing a set to failure, these people may benefit a lot more from higher weekly volume, where people who can better push failure will do better with lower volume, i imagine its pretty rare to have someone doing high weekly volume, high frequency, and high intensity.

    • @richardmenz3257
      @richardmenz3257 8 місяців тому

      Doing isometrics helps a lot with going to failure. I was getting to failure without feeling as tired as I felt I should. After doing isometrics for a month my to failure sets felt so much tiring it was insane.

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video. This is excellent information.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Рік тому

    Love it, thanks!
    I’ve noticed that it’s also been helpful to change the plan occasionally, low vs high sets, and I wonder “how often” is best.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      Thank you my friend, as always I appreciate your support a ton!
      I would love to see more studies on switching between the two, and maybe this could provide greater insight! :)

  • @josephohrablo4866
    @josephohrablo4866 Рік тому +5

    I don’t know how in gods name Mike mentzer had the audacity to recommend 1-2 weekly sets per muscle group once every 7-14 days

    • @richardmenz3257
      @richardmenz3257 8 місяців тому +1

      Your “vitamins” helps with that.

  • @FCMorba
    @FCMorba Рік тому +2

    Thank you, as always a great vid :)

  • @pranavarvind4281
    @pranavarvind4281 6 днів тому

    I've noticed that it can vary depending on muscle group for me. I definitely got better quad gains on 14 sets vs 11, and side delt gains on 16 vs 12, but my hamstrings do veey well at just 4-5, wirh even 6-7 being unsustainable for more than a week or two.

  • @Dougie.A.M
    @Dougie.A.M Рік тому

    Ooooh nice ending. Its like a "to be continued" for a hypertrothy science type story.

  • @sytse_roos
    @sytse_roos Рік тому +1

    Hi Dhimant, there are some that believe that more advanced trainees benefit from lower volumes. A possible explanation I have heard is that highly trained individuals are more able to recruit the muscle fibers that are more fast twitch. We also know that those highest threshold fibers have fewer mitochondria, making them worse in off setting muscle damage (despite the obervation that sub maximum fast twitch actually do become more oxidative in many body builders). Also, advanced trainees do probably have their growth potential in those highest threshold muscle fibers. Considering every other type of muscle fiber has been stimulated in the past so often. To further illustrate this point, you don't really see slow twitch muscle fiber hypertrophy in highly trained trainees, while you do see it in beginners. In immobilized limbs this effect is even more profound. Personally I find this narrative quite plausible. What do you think?

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      So I can understand where that logic is coming from, but I don't really think there's enough evidence to support it currently. We also need to more accurately define advanced and at what point would you be classified as this.
      Also, if you have any data on slow-twitch growth not being present in highly trianed folks, I would love to see that! The data I'm aware shows trained folks (though not neccessarily highly) still experience slow-twitch growth :) (such as this: journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00464.2021 )

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo Рік тому +1

    As Ive said before, with volume, rest breaks, eventually, you know you. Push yourself in all metrics, eventually you will know inherently what works best for you. I work out till I feel that dip in energy where im not giving my all to the sets. If its 4 sets, so be it. If its 6, so be it. I work out as frequently as I can. I aim to workout every day but if you awaken and cant work out, then dont. As long as you know you are pushing yourself, then ultimately you will know what you need to do. This assumes you arent an absolute motivationless drop kick and you are a go getter that is more likely to "over train" than not do enough.

    • @NorThenX047
      @NorThenX047 Рік тому +1

      exactly. It's so important to listen to and understand your own body. Not everyone has the discipline to learn these things and require influencers or statistics to follow. I always listen to my body. Progress is never a linear path

  • @Morte_Deus
    @Morte_Deus Рік тому +5

    25-30 weekly sets per bodypart was a game changer for me. I used to stick to around 12-15, doubling it really increased my strength and mass.

    • @talkingbirb2808
      @talkingbirb2808 Рік тому

      that's.... so time consuming though

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +1

      Very interesting to hear, I imagine there probably are individuals out there that can handle and benefit from higher sets :)

    • @Thommadura
      @Thommadura Рік тому

      THere is no way to tell if the change in sets was the definitive factor - often your body becomes accustomed to a routine and simply CHANGING that to something else creates new gains.

    • @GB-ld6lf
      @GB-ld6lf Рік тому

      You don’t train with high intensity

    • @Thommadura
      @Thommadura Рік тому

      Nonsense. YOU have no way of knowing how I train, The fact is, changing your routine has traditionally been a way to start new gains over the decades and if you stay with a routing for a long time you often get stale.

  • @genautelevishn5999
    @genautelevishn5999 Рік тому

    before watching this video I'll share my knowledge to see if it checks out
    if you're a beginner to intermediate high volume and slowly start spreading the high volume into high frequency, then once you're intermediate dial down the frequency again and the more advanced you become the less frequency is needed.

  • @spurzo-thespiralspacewolf8916

    The 52 sets study comes out to around 6 ish set per muscle of effective total reps per session when counting effective reps, according to Paul Carter and Chris Beardsley

  • @Muphenz
    @Muphenz Рік тому

    Bro, you're so close to 200K subs. It's like yesterday I saw you just get 20K, then 100K subs. Keep up the grind and thanks for producing these masterpiece videos. Your videos are like my steriod use, it's an addiction at this point.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +1

      Hahaha, thank you dude! I know you've been here for a longgg time, way before 20k itself I believe :)

    • @Muphenz
      @Muphenz Рік тому

      10-11K I believe. I remember I cant believe the views for as high quality as the research is. I binged watch your content was soon as your first video.

  • @dhtgains2053
    @dhtgains2053 Рік тому +1

    I can't wait for the next video

  • @mussersbowsboatsandscience6610

    Excellent information. Has there ever been studies that extreme number od sets like 50 plus sets per body part, per week which would seem like what was done in Arnold.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +2

      Up to 48 sets were used in some of the studies mentioned in the video. But as noted at the end of the video, a new study has come out involving progressing up to 52 weekly sets, we'll analyze this in the next video :)

    • @mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
      @mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 Рік тому

      @@HouseofHypertrophy thanks 😊

  • @Al-Ex-North-Star
    @Al-Ex-North-Star Рік тому +2

    I'm curious about this next video you hinted.

  • @rguez2332
    @rguez2332 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you make a video about FOREARMS hypertrophy??🙏🙏

  • @kneewizard6246
    @kneewizard6246 Рік тому

    You ought to revisit difference in gains between compound vs isolation (ie BP vs skullcrusher). Also, thanks for making a point to group the studies by whether rest periods were sufficient. Saved that graphic.

  • @ColinBlenis
    @ColinBlenis 8 місяців тому

    Bro, your content is amazing. Your graphics are perfect. You know how to dissect a paper. I love this channel. I think you are either speaking too fast or trimming too much silence in your audio. When you edit out all the breaths it makes it sound like you're having an anxiety attack and it makes it harder for the listener to process all the awesome information you're giving. Your content is good enough to capture attention, don't feel like you've got to speak fast to keep attention. :-)
    I've learned a lot from the UA-cam channels of voice actors.
    Again, love your content, just giving ideas of how you can make it even better.

  • @HariboStarman
    @HariboStarman Рік тому +1

    I’m confused, by this logic, I can do 5 sets of front squats twice a week and I’m good to go for quads? Seems low for optimal growth

  • @InMusicLife
    @InMusicLife 9 місяців тому

    "Are muscle fiber hypertrophy and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy different? Are there any differences in muscle hypertrophy training? Previously mentioned that sets of 5-30 are the same for muscle building? Given proper form, should this also be taken into consideration?"

  • @TypicallyUniqueOfficial
    @TypicallyUniqueOfficial Рік тому

    I believe every study NEEDS to compare short rest and high rest groups. It’s such a massive difference in results. 18 sets with low rest would probably equate to something like 12 sets with longer rest periods.
    But how the results would vary is what I’d like to see.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      Agreed, it's something I would like researchers do examine more!

  • @GACXVI
    @GACXVI Рік тому +2

    I love going to the summary directly and not wasting time. Thanks anyway for the videos.

  • @ozzy6162
    @ozzy6162 Рік тому

    As far as resting time between (heavy) sets goes - this has to increase as you age since ATP refuelling takes longer as you age. Creatine helps a bit with that of course.
    From previous videos/research it seems that the % of fast/slow twitch muscle fibres can't fully account for the reason why some muscles respond better to lower or higher volume.
    I suppose that it's the many components involved with muscle hypertrophy that makes this area very difficult to research and obtain reliable results.

  • @dustman96
    @dustman96 Рік тому +1

    It would seem to me that nutrition would play a big role in the ability to see gains from high volume.

  • @kkromaniandeadliftkk5342
    @kkromaniandeadliftkk5342 Рік тому

    Thank you for the knowledgement.

  • @spurzo-thespiralspacewolf8916

    6-8 sets per muscle once per week here. Sometimes only 4 sets. All sets to failure with rest periods of 3-5 minutes

  • @chrisdupuis2523
    @chrisdupuis2523 2 місяці тому

    More sets = more better
    Seriously, It always seems to come down to this: do as many sets as you can recover from and have time for. I'm personally doing 24 sets for biceps triceps a week, 12 from compounds & 12 from isolation (chest/back/arms, 3 times a week). This is the most I can seem to recover from right now in a 48 hour period.

  • @douglasss1536
    @douglasss1536 9 місяців тому

    personally i would alsways go for lower volume since it will give you better recovery and prevent the need to deload

  • @filipecroaro
    @filipecroaro Рік тому +1

    You can always add more work to a lagging muscle, like forearms, in my case.

  • @Ti0Luch0
    @Ti0Luch0 Рік тому

    Maybe drop the weight and add more volume then. So how long before you start noticing the changes, weeks, months?

  • @corenko
    @corenko Рік тому +9

    Muscle growth peaks at 6 sets per muscle per session, two times a week, and that totals to 12 weekly sets as a higher limit, IF you're training to failure or maybe 1 rep in reserve.
    If you're training with 3+ reps in reserve, you'll need that 18+ sets

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому +1

      I agree but that is often way too much. My chest doesnt recover from 6 sets a week once or twice a week.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +5

      I've seen this take a few times, but I sincerely believe the literature fails to convincingly show 6 sets per session is the max limit (people reference Kreiger's regression for this), there's a lot more nuance. I'll have a video on it at some point :)

    • @Zhyriaa
      @Zhyriaa Рік тому

      @@joojotin 6 sets twice a week is way too much ? Are you made of paper or something

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому

      @@Zhyriaa I didnt say you couldnt grow from more, what Im saying is if you choose good exercises and have good execution and going to failure, its easier to progressively overload with lower amount of volume. When I do more I stay stuck or regress.
      Its that simple.

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому

      @@Zhyriaa I have used volumes per muscle group up to 30 sets per week. I know what works for me.

  • @cheesist6998
    @cheesist6998 Рік тому

    12 studies, 12 hours ago, and almost 12 minutes of duration. awesome

  • @bschwand
    @bschwand Рік тому

    hypertrophy is 95% nutrition and 5% training.
    All the skinny hardgainers I know (me included), grow easily once they start eating enough.
    The problem is that normal, healthy, relatively fit people, vastly underestimate the amount of (good balanced high protein) food they have to absorb in a day to actually grow.
    Look at babies, the ultimate body builders. They have a belly-filling meal every 2 - 3 hours, all day, every day.
    If you consider mass of food, I think for each kg of muscle growth, at least 3-7 kgs of food intake is required.
    Did you eat a kg of food today ? Remember most of it is just water so you are not actually eating that much.

  • @bbreon75
    @bbreon75 Місяць тому

    It's all about TUT. Each set you do increases your time under tension. So if you slow down your rep cadence, you can do less sets and still get the same time under tension. It's all about time under tension. It's basic math.

    • @jpocallens6776
      @jpocallens6776 Місяць тому

      Bet. I’m gonna start doing sets of one long ass rep and get the same quality workout of the guys doing 8 to 12 reps in the same time. It ain’t as simple as tot.

  • @nooch86
    @nooch86 Рік тому

    For each exercise, one or two warm up sets, then one last set at 100% intensity or beyond. If you can do any more than that, either you are not really putting in 100%, or get your DNA checked because you are not human. Then move on to maybe one more exercise for that body part working in a different plane, eg incline press then decline press, pulldown then row. If you are pushing yourself at the amount of intesity that stimulates muscle growth, you need at least three to four days rest, and the stronger you get, the more recovery you need i.e 7 days. In saying that, everyone is a bit different and do what works best for you, but I would err on the side of undertraining rather than overtraining. I learnt that lession the hard way.

  • @Claframb
    @Claframb Рік тому +1

    Where is the Housewife of Hypertrophy partner channel for women's fitness? I specifically requested it.

  • @EdJames-hy8oo
    @EdJames-hy8oo 4 місяці тому

    You have to know your own body simple as it takes time jay cutler said something very prevalent there I's no such thing as over training just under eating more sets more food I'm 57 and my body still responds well to 12 for chest / 9 for calfs / 12 for triceps/ 9 for biceps/ 20 back and legs all out 2 working sets at each top weight now if my eating I's off I'm in trouble

  • @shantanusapru
    @shantanusapru Рік тому

    Nice video - as always!
    But, I think there's a mistake: 0:38 -- I think you mean(t) to say "at *most* 3 reps from failure", right?!

  • @whereeaglesdare9584
    @whereeaglesdare9584 Рік тому

    It’s more like a matter of diminishing returns.
    Something like
    1st Set = 50%
    2nd Set = 25%
    3rd Set = 12%
    4th Set = 6%
    5th Set = 3%
    6th Set = 2%
    7th Set = 1%
    8th Set through Infinity = Last 1%.
    This is why it’s important to make Sets 1-3 count because after that your ROI is extremely low.

    • @whereeaglesdare9584
      @whereeaglesdare9584 Рік тому

      3 Sets gives you 80%+
      So might as well use that other time and energy to get yourself 80% of another muscle group.

    • @kobemop
      @kobemop Рік тому

      I heard one study that says you get 60% of gains from 1 set.

  • @froggerjohn427
    @froggerjohn427 Рік тому

    Is there any studies specifically around maximum effort lifting in a low rep range for mass growth? Specifically thinking of Mike Mentzers omni contraction/infitionic training method. Perhaps individual effort could account for some variation in the results of the studies.

  • @noahgiamei
    @noahgiamei Рік тому +2

    At 9:08, the gear animation is impossible in reality. If one gear turns clockwise, the connecting gears will turn counterclockwise, and so forth.
    Thanks for the science. I always appreciate how concisely you synthesize the data.

  • @DudeSilad
    @DudeSilad Рік тому

    Crikey, if I don't count my warm up sets, I'm probably not doing more than 6 sets per week per body part. I'm 56 and I'm still making decent gains. I get bored being in the gym too long. I see people who are well into their workouts when I arrive and still going when I leave. I'm there around 45mins. I have done high set regimes in the past, I remember using an app to log everything and I was doing over 50 sets a workout, which included warm up sets. I'd do more exercises per bodypart than I do now. I generally only do two exercises per bodypart. I was probably doing 4 or 5 for back during that time. I actually made very good gains. It was after I'd had shoulder surgery and was slowly building up my strength. But it wasn't sustainable. Not physically or mentally.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +1

      It's awesome to hear you've found a plan that's working and sustainable for you! I wish you continued progress :)

  • @TheConan996
    @TheConan996 Рік тому

    As a 60yo my leg day looks like this leg ext 3 to 4 warm-ups followed by 12x 95kg. Front squats in Smith machine 2 to 3 warm-ups 1 set 12x60kg .leg press 3 warm-ups 1set 180 kg x 10 to 12 reps, Bulgarian split squat withd/bells 8x 22kg, and 1 set 8x 27kg. At 60 I can only train once in 7 days or I don't improve but according to this to get 12 sets I would have to do 4 sets of every exercise above stopping 3 reps short of failure. As a HIT trainee I can see this being too much, I just can't see doing this much unless we include warm-ups but you state that's not included, what am I missing here....

  • @Enthalpy248
    @Enthalpy248 Рік тому

    Is it hard to trust any study that trains one leg one way vs other leg different? Why? Because if you break your left arm but keep training the right - you don't lose muscle in the left! So, the body has some cross over impact on limbs and maybe even pec, lats, etc. It seems like most studies with individual limb training with different criteria - result in similar results - not identical but very similar.

  • @gonzalezcrivellimaximilian5201

    Hi, excelent video, how about Mike Israetel theory?

  • @MrEsPlace
    @MrEsPlace Рік тому

    What were their supplements, diet and sleep schedule like?

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      Some of the paper do report comparable caloric and macronutrient intake between groups, and most studies prohibit any supplementation pertaining to growth (such as creatine). Sleep schedule is rarely measured, but with randomization of subjects across groups we're sort of hoping this wouldn't meaningfully impact the results, especially when we have multiple studies simlarly designed which collectively increase the sample size :)

  • @clamum9648
    @clamum9648 Рік тому +3

    I think a huge component that might explain some of the variation between sets per week, for results across individuals, is nutrition. I believe that nutrition is at least as important, and probably more important, than what you do in the gym (had a trainer who thought the same as well). If you're not taking in enough calories or protein, you're not going to grow. I has personal experience in this unfortunately lol (calories; my appetite is fail and is why I was super skinny all my life).

  • @twentye
    @twentye Рік тому +1

    its Monday again -> HoH uploads

  • @_caseyjames
    @_caseyjames Рік тому

    My question:
    How is this 'thickness' measured?
    I always find higher volume makes you have temporarily more 'inflated' if you will muscles due to pump and what not, but after not training for a week or two you immediately sort of lose that extra size - how much of this is genuine myofibrillar hpertrophy? The sort of muscle that stays with you.
    Might sound a bit anecdotal/bro sciencey but if you've been around the iron game long enough you'll know what I mean

  • @abraund
    @abraund 11 місяців тому

    I suppose you could replicate the study, train one bicep with lower sets, the other with higher, and then get the tape measure out.

  • @arvopenaali896
    @arvopenaali896 Рік тому +12

    When you have a lot of sets, nobody is pushing them as close to failure. Most people don't enjoy pain enough to hype themselves to failure again and again.

    • @BradleyCTurner
      @BradleyCTurner Рік тому +2

      having too many sets causes you to sand bag too, people should see set amount as a variable to change when needed, not a set in stone amount for their program. do 3 sets of bench in a given rep range, when all 3 sets meet the upper end, add a 4th set, once all 4 match increase weight.

    • @nunninkav
      @nunninkav Рік тому +1

      Heavy Duty training Mentzer style is only for those who have a "no pain, no gain" approach to training.

    • @TiberiusX
      @TiberiusX 7 місяців тому

      ​@@nunninkav you rest long enough that you're jacked to beat your last workout, too. You don't want to quit early because you gotta make it happen

  • @iabdotupac2810
    @iabdotupac2810 Рік тому

    If I do hammer curls with 12.5 kg for 15 reps and only do 15 kg for 2 reps what should i do?

  • @rjrjrjrjrzjjzjz
    @rjrjrjrjrzjjzjz Рік тому

    Is there a reference on which these studies base themselves to say that rowing counts as 1 set of biceps?Where can I access a "list" of exercises and the muscles they activate?

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      So stricly speaking, there is no data that would say this is appropriate, there's debate about it as detailed here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6681288/
      I would say since rows don't stimulate as much biceps growth as bicep curls ua-cam.com/video/WBo7MzU6U-w/v-deo.html - it may not truly be 1 set for the biceps
      With other cases though, things are a lot more complicated. For example, the bench press might grow the lateral head better than triceps isolation exercises do ua-cam.com/users/shortspevqsw8WNfc , and so in this case should we count the bench press as 1 set for the triceps in the same way we count isolation movements?

  • @onegaming8317
    @onegaming8317 10 місяців тому

    So please tell me, if I'm doing front raise,lat raise and face pulls is t considered as 3 sets for shoulders or is t considered as 1 set for each muscle group

  • @kristijan8518
    @kristijan8518 Рік тому

    I'm very curious to see comparison between training 10 sets once per week vs 5 sets two times per week.

    • @DudeSilad
      @DudeSilad Рік тому

      Personally speaking, the once a week regime wouldn't be as good as twice a week for me. I've trained the once a week workout that Dorian used to do. Not that my workouts would be as intense. Difficult when you train on your own and can't do forced reps. There is a balance between rest and in the state where you start losing muscle. I'd imagine I start losing muscle after around 6 days. Twice a week and I'm defintely seeing a difference over one. Takes a long time to discover what is best for you. And your age is a factor as well as the amount of good food you're having.

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому +3

      When total number of sets per week are equated, the number of days you spread that out doesn't appear to matter too much. But there does seem to be individual differences, for example, one paper found when performing 9 weekly sets for the quads, some individuals saw similar gains between training all these sets in one session (9 sets all in one session) or across three sessions (3 sets per session), but others say greater gains with the thee sessions: ua-cam.com/video/X82vvocqe-8/v-deo.html

  • @HariboStarman
    @HariboStarman Рік тому

    Doesn’t this contradict your earlier video about having around 30-45 sets per week even with longer rest?

  • @jfmorache
    @jfmorache 27 днів тому

    Whats the song in the intro ?

  • @Leonidas-eu9bb
    @Leonidas-eu9bb Рік тому

    increasing/progressing in volume is the last thing one should do. It has a quick end.

  • @stepanpanov1337
    @stepanpanov1337 Рік тому

    Please do some diet related videos

  • @yerpyaboy
    @yerpyaboy 6 місяців тому

    Data suggest more than six sets per individual muscle per workout session garners diminishing return every set after 6 per muscle group. Per session
    Meaning when you do bench do three sets if you're doing flies at three sets also.
    If you're doing bench only do six sets. And then do six sets of triceps.
    If you do chess and triceps twice a week that's 12 sets if you do it three times a week that's 18 sets..

  • @عبداللهصالح-ط6ي9و

    we need a video Brachioradialis

  • @teddmented
    @teddmented 10 місяців тому

    How is set defined?

  • @christianduval8374
    @christianduval8374 Рік тому

    Have you ever covered unilateral training ?

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      Not yet! But I certainly could have a video on that in the future :)

  • @nickdutton6218
    @nickdutton6218 Рік тому

    Also consider that the rest time, and number of sets aren't the factors the create the muscle, but they strongly affect the factors that do. Someone on the comments here @Natural_Maximum_Hypertrophy has listed those. Don't let short rest times or high numbers of sets affect your ability to generate intensity. And don't let long rest time affect your mind muscle connection. Or intense sets affect your technique and form. But find a balance where you feel rested to do another set, and a number of sets where you feel you are in a good range to improve on your previous week's work.

  • @Matt_Alaric
    @Matt_Alaric Рік тому +1

    Without knowing the intensity of the sets this data is of limited value. If HIT advocates can get similar results with 1 set to failure then the idea of needing 20, 30 or even 50 sets to gain some fractional improvement seems insane.

  • @batatahigh382
    @batatahigh382 Рік тому

    I wonder what role diet plays in these results. 8:09.

  • @StraightUniversalism
    @StraightUniversalism Рік тому

    This would seem to debunk Mike Mentzer's work. Though it still worked for him and some of his clients.

    • @StraightUniversalism
      @StraightUniversalism Рік тому

      Unless the study didn't take into account high intensity training, but I doubt it, but it can work for some as you show.

    • @StraightUniversalism
      @StraightUniversalism Рік тому

      Oh and untrained individuals, Mike theorized that more weight, is heavier on the body also for the recovery, so less sets are needed as you get stronger.

  • @doggo64
    @doggo64 Рік тому +3

    Gotta help with the algorithm 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶

  • @afonsogarcia9997
    @afonsogarcia9997 Рік тому

    Do these volume numbers apply equally to lower leg muscles ?

    • @kobemop
      @kobemop Рік тому

      Quads seem to respond better to lower volumes

  • @blawnilegend1075
    @blawnilegend1075 Рік тому

    I love you HOH

  • @babab_m
    @babab_m Рік тому

    The major weekness with these studies is that none of these programs are complete bodybuilding programs, if you focus on just one muscle for a few weeks it's NOT the same as focusing on all major muscles, why not do science on actual boybuilding programs since that's what interests people

  • @kobemop
    @kobemop Рік тому +2

    TL:DR
    9 to 12 sets for beginners
    12 to 18+ sets for trained lifters (2+ minute rest)

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому +1

      that doesnt make sense, advanced trainees need less volume

    • @radilev1996
      @radilev1996 Рік тому +2

      It is the exact opposite. Good lick recovering with 18 sets a week on advanced level, lifting insane numbers on compound lifts. Beginners can handle anything since their total weekly tonnage is weak as shit, no disrespect.

    • @drno62
      @drno62 Рік тому +1

      @@joojotin No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. The more advanced lifters have built their ability to recover so need more sets for gains

    • @xdd543
      @xdd543 Рік тому +1

      @@drno62 false, advanced trainees will get fatigued due to the amount of weight they are lifting. hence need greater recovery demands and less volume

    • @drno62
      @drno62 Рік тому +1

      @@xdd543 Then why do the studies support my idea and not yours?

  • @shellytanner
    @shellytanner Рік тому

    I think the intensity of the trainee determines the outcome

  • @Nico_911
    @Nico_911 Рік тому

    When is the brachioradialis vid dropping?

  • @BentusiProgenitors
    @BentusiProgenitors Рік тому

    Man these purple, yellow, red, and orange mofos are jacked AF

  • @vyperr47
    @vyperr47 Рік тому +1

    Between House of Hypertrophy and Renaissance Periodization, I'm starting to feel like a nerd for bodybuilding 😂

    • @kobemop
      @kobemop Рік тому

      House of Hypertrophy > Renaissance Periodization (they're biased whilst House of Hypertrophy isn't).

    • @HouseofHypertrophy
      @HouseofHypertrophy  Рік тому

      Haha, shout out to Mike!

  • @RicardoSilva-hk2er
    @RicardoSilva-hk2er Рік тому

    The majority of the research on volume and sets is pretty terrible. For the sake of the experiment they usually just choose one or two bodyparts as the focus of the analysis and this changes the results. When you have to train the whole body, like in a normal bodybuilding routine, you accumulate much more systemic fatigue than when you are just training, for example, biceps and triceps (like some studies do). If you are training everybody with 20 sets per body part, I can pretty much guarantee that you are not doing the exercises near the maximum intensity and you are probably having a lot of junk volume (volume that not passes the threehold intensity to stimulate a muscle). From my experience, no more than 10 sets per week per body part is optimal (and I am being quite generous). In my own training I usually I don't go above of 6 sets (note: this sets include rest-pause and drop sets). Unless you are including substance that allow you to have more intensity in your training, like meth, please stick to the 10 sets per week per body part as a maximum number of sets.

  • @Topsiekku
    @Topsiekku Рік тому

    It's absurd to train the same muscle group three times a week. No one recovers completely in two days. No more than one hard workout per week and another can be a lighter speed strength workout. And even one workout once a week is enough.

  • @sonat2008
    @sonat2008 Рік тому +85

    These studies are all irrelevant. They change every year with new findings but more importantly most people dont know how to train to failure. They think they do but dont. In my experience and opinion 4-8 sets per week per muscle done to true failure (gun to head) is enough. I went from 135 up to 215 and cut down to 180 over the course of 16 years doing low volume and high intensity training. I am not saying other ways dont work or one is better. I am saying this worked and works for me

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому +4

      I love you

    • @emirnartyzhev2053
      @emirnartyzhev2053 Рік тому +12

      Good for you, but why would I do 4-8 sets to failure instead of 10-20 sets to failure. It just doesn’t make sense to stop if I clearly can do more and mot experience overtraining for weeks and sometimes months

    • @MrSometaco
      @MrSometaco Рік тому +5

      The thing with training is that it’s highly individualized. Some people can get huge off doing a few high intensity sets with shorter rest periods while other will grow better with more sets with longer rest and leaving 1 or 2 in the tank. Look at the studies mentioned in this video people landed high or low for each amount of sets per week you’ve gotta experiment and find what works best for you. Whatever gives you amazing pumps, you can make good progression in and doesn’t completely wreck you so you can come back in relatively soon and do it again is most likely gonna work the best for you.

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому +1

      @@emirnartyzhev2053 Because you could progress faster on lower amount of volume. Simple as that. If what you are doing works I wouldnt change it personally, but I would consider doing less volume when you hit plateau eventually.
      Thay is how I came into lower volume training too. Dont change it if it aint broken. But you could also have faster progress so there is that.

    • @joojotin
      @joojotin Рік тому +2

      @@MrSometaco longer rest is always better, and I would take pump out of the equation completely, it doesnt matter for strength ir growth.