Can the Russian S-400 SAM be beaten?
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This video goes into the details of S-400. how it works, its cons and pros. And it compares it with the other long range SAM competitors from all around the world. There can be only one. Is S-400 really the best?
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Actually the S-400 is just the best on the market but the Russians are upgrading to S-500 Thats how they do things they sell their best instead its their second best and they do the same thing with their tanks guns and everything else . But that doesn't make there second best bad
Binkov's Battlegrounds naaaah dude
@@tusk3260
S-500 is not an upgrade, its a supplement to the S-400. It was designed to engage ballistic and hypersonic missiles at longer range. From the info we have, each S-500 launcher only carry 2 huge missiles, so its purpose is different.
Very good review, just ordered two s-400’s for my sisters birthday.
How could one be invited to this?
Did you use Binkov's coupon code to get one S1-Pantsir for free?
Is she so pretty that she need so strong defense?
@@joshicune only 1 way to find out
@@lazarjovanovic4388 you know the rules and so do i
USSR and Russian Federation both know that strenght of usa is airpower, so naturally they improved anti-air cability
This is very true, and you can see it the other way also: during the Cold War NATO was most concerned about thousands of Soviet tanks hence the development of such systems as the A-10, Apache, javelin missiles, etc.
Not only anti-aircraft but Russia has biuld their own fleet of super jets to counter the piece of shiet F35 that can't even shoot straight😂
@@SpiraSpiraSpira its basicly a huge game of rock-paper-scissors its about measure and counter measure i think of it like RPG game you cant be best at everything at the same time so you focus on what's our best trait.
@@lius20608 "Flea of super jets" - wat? :)
F-35 system shut down... What about the strength airpower... :(
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Give this man an S-400
Ryan Gonzales but I don’t want the USA to cut my F-35 deal
Thanks
Watching the launches of AA missiles is so satisfying.
All missiles are fun to watch...
@@mikeb.5039 I prefer the s400 the way it launches and turns mid fight is so cool
Try Submarine launched missiles. It's more satisfying
wrr
So S-400 uses Nord VPN to secure it's communication? 🤣🤣
Israeli F-35I strikes in Syria, they were able to operate with complete impunity in areas defended by S400 and S300 systems.
Yeah they informed russia about each of those attacks
except russia wasnt trying to shoot down israeli planes
Russia has a deal with Israel that they don't shoot at their planes.
@@hermannpiana6649proof ???
And now it's time to read the experts' comments.......
Martín Gonzalez lol I agree
in all countries, all cultures, any fields, there are comment-experts.
IR Seeker I don’t whether you are being legit or your trying to show your countries superior-ness but I won’t interfere (I won’t respond)
@@irseeker9989 another expert...... 😅
Martín Gonzalez more like “expert”
Real Engineering advertising F-35, Binkov advertising S-400, the battle of cyberspace is raging.
Two days ago S-400 battery in Eupatoria, Crimea has been hit, its main radar and its command center have been destroyed. The rest was evacuated.
Russian MOD stated it was hit by just 2 Ukrainian missiles.
3 days ago S-400 protecting Sevastopol has been saturated by 10 Scalp missiles which hit a dry dock, an assault ship and a Kilo class submarine.
Sources trust me bro
And west media propganda😂
Source I'm an American I just love seeing weak ciu tries with weak millitarys try and convince themselves ukraine has a chance of winning
@@MICLakVER There are literally pictures of the destroyed ship and submarine, even the Russian MOD does not denie it anymore
@@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01 no they shows other destroyed weapon as s-400 90% west media propganda
@@MICLakVER Source: ua-cam.com/video/vhzEQqBQ3pg/v-deo.html
S-500: am I a joke to you?
Suck-400s are a JOKE
@@jubeiorigami4096 , DID YOU READ TOWARDS THE END OF THAT ARTICLE ?? LMAO !
" However, C4ISRNet also noted that the German company knew when the jets were coming and were able to use the signals from the jets’ ADS-B transponders to help identify the craft."
Very effective against airliners, I heard.
no only for israelis to use airlines as human shields in their shitty f35 junk... lol which cant shoot a gun and has 1300 software problems and also suffocates the pilot.. nice troll farm ziohack comment but obvious misplaced propaganda.
@@keirmclean1759 Nonsense, the F-35 only has 800 software problems, okay?
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Is that what the USA against Iranian 747 passenger jet ?
@@LondonarabS If you mean the one in 1988 it was an Airbus A300, and a Standard missile, killing 290 innocent people.
Keir Mclean the f35 is soo bad the Iranians can’t find it..and neither can the syrians which means the Israelis can target anything anywhere in Syria.
Word.
The S400 missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
Yes.
Exactly!!!
If the F35 has a radar cross section of the size of a bumble bee BUT the AI linked to the S400 detects a bumble bee flying at unnatural speeds and height.
Why would it not assess the bumble as suspect???
I think US fan boys are in for a surprise if US engages an S300 or S400.
@@Kayzef2003 , uawire.org/american-f-35-fighter-jets-turned-out-to-be-invisible-for-russian-s-400-missile-systems
@@Kayzef2003 , read these two articles from Iranian media called HispanTV which is geared towards hispanics.
Read how Syrians are disappointed with Suck-300s and now they wanna take their chances by acquiring Chinese HQ-9 and Iranian made Bavar 373.... not that they will make a DIFFERENCE with Israel , but that's how desperate Syrians are !
Use Google Translate and enjoy...LOL
www.hispantv.com/noticias/siria/442909/s300-rusia-hq9-china-israel
www.hispantv.com/noticias/siria/437858/iran-sistema-antiaereo-ataques-israel
You must be an economist. Your conclusions are absolutely true and absolutely irrelevant.
The NordVPN ad transition is so well done I thought the Russians used NordVPN for their s400 communications
Great work done, commissar Binkov! Nice level of knowledge!
Comrade Binkov, as always, you´re awesome. Thank you for teaching me so much. Love from Brazil!
i saw the “includes paid promotion” box in the corner and thought shame im not in the market for SAM systems
As far as I know, Soviet/Russian SAM's system is the most system that is already being used in the battlefield, like those Pantsirs, TORs and S-300s. Well of course only SAMs system isn't enough against flying enemy,, be it Cruise Missile, Long Range Gliding Smart Bombs, Ballistic Missile, etc. . In the real battlefield, these SAMs (S-300s, S-400s, Pantsirs, SAMP/T, Patriot, HQ-9) is a part of IADS. No system will be working alone. Clearly more Soviet SAMs than US/European SAMs in almost every battlefield, since the country that has the system it is almost always getting bullied by US and its allies.
Nice content, Binkov. Unbiased, very rare these days.
Unbiased huh
@@Aaron-wq3jz
Well, Binkov is one of the few military channel on UA-cam that admit when there's not enough publicly available info about something, and put a disclaimer when he have to speculate. Biased channel tend to "know" everything about a weapon system to its exact detail, even if it's classified.
Video sum up:
Effective range and lethality: we don't know
Effectiveness against stealth: we don't know
Price: we don't know
Is it the best SAM: we don't know
great video, always amazed by your work and dedication
Great video! I love this longer and more detailed format!
Partiot: if they come from that direction i shot them
S-400: what if they go around and attack from behind?
Patriot: surprised pickachu face
Humm gotta love all the classified info that these people don't know about the patriot. 14e here used to work on the pac 3-4 systems
@@wcooper0077 Then you know Patriot isn't as good as S400. Great. Good to know.
@@wilburwarthog668 well considering it plays a vital role in defending assets
@@seeleagent people just think we are defenseless or something lol.. if they only knew... I mean they have videos explaining what is declassified. But apparently they don't know how to Google things..
@@seeleagent rocket usually attack from different sides, even if they being shot from 1 place.
can modern day Vatican city invade medieval Europe?
*papal states intensifies*
Could modern day Luxembourg conquer medieval Europe. (everything within the nation's borders is transported to the time period chosen)
The swiss guards arent a mobile force and they dont have guns
@@kennooo535 Neither do medieval states ^^
Bogdan Bogdanoff then theres no point in making a vid
Very informative, Binkov! Thanks for this competitive analysis...
I have been waiting this for so long, thanks for video.
Yes -- the S-400 batteries can't even protect themselves...
What we need is a russian missile system that wont shoot down civilian aircraft. They seem to be very good at taking down Boeings. The ability to distinguish military from civilian needs some tweeking.
Maybe they can get the help from USA in developing that? O no, cant be done, they did exactly the same, they also shoot down a civilian Boeing...Bad SM-2 Missile...
@@MrCastodian IT was an Airbus, but this shows the limits of SAM as air defense weapons, they cannot investigate if a target is civilan or military. And too agressive commander can force his crew to commit mistakes.. That is why SAM cannot replace aircraft as a air defense tools, just to supplement them. The USS Vinncenes commander forced his crew to shoot despite misgivings about the target being civilian and not an F 14. The MH 17 was shot down by a Buk missile crew who though they were facing a Su 25 or a Antonov elint plane.. I bet the Iranian Tor M had the same conclusion.
Great video Binkov and team! I hope there will be more analysis videos in the near future.
Good job on getting us solid info and a good comparison Binkov
You missed one important option for Patriot - SkyCeptor missiles. SkyCeptor are similar to the Stunner missiles used in Israel and their development is related. They are not quite identical but have similar size and range. Poland opted for SkyCeptor instead of PAC-3MSE because they are vastly less expensive while still highly capable. Poland uses the other PAC-3 components such as command and radars, just with these different interceptors. When comparing systems, this option should be noted.
Russia is the most advanced nation in the world when it comes to air defense. Nothing can match the S400 system. Especially the upcoming S500.
Spot on brother!
True, so if people say “S-400 is garbage” they’re basically saying all the other defence systems are dog shit. Every country would instantly buy the S-400 system if they were allowed or able to
Many countries use S400 including NATO ones.
@@scottcampbell5536 The export versions
@@jimsagubigula7337 sams will be useless in upcoming drone wars anyway.
Excellent breakdown. Absolutely thorough. Thanks.
Nice video about S-400 unites & explaining how its work and what is its weak points for covering skies from air attacks
One of the more interesting video, well researched and illustrated. Hope you'll make more of these kind of videos!
Binkov does not mention the South Korean M-SAM which is based on S-350 technology. Samsung and LiG collaborated with the Russians to build the M-SAM whereas the Russians branched off to take that joint research to develop the S-400.
This is a fascinating case of a U.S. ally getting S-400 technology without upsetting the U.S.
A lot of speculation. We do know for sure that Russian missile systems are deadly against commercial transport aircraft that don't know they are under attack.
That is TOR operated by morons. I've read about the Serbian Officer whose team took down F-117 and one F-16 during the Kosovo war. He said that only the biggest morons would be able to take down a commercial jet, because it's shown as as such on the radar, and it's obvious even for older such systems it is, not to mention they carry transponders.
The plane also took off from Teheran, i.e. it was not spotted near the border, making the whole thing even stupider.
It is not the system's fault it's operated by morons
@Adecodoo Also, TOR is not modern system in any way, but it still wouldn't make the mistake of mixing a commercial jet with a fighter one, since way older Russian systems (which were used in shooting down f-16 and f-117) did not make such mistakes
@Samim Taheri in any case, not any fault of the system itself
@Adecodoo 32 years ago.
@Adecodoo So explain why the Iranians thought an attack was coming from their airport. In 1988, the perceived attack was coming from a hostile direction and the plane involved had a similar radar signal as an F-14 and there was confusion as to which radio frequency it was using, the pilot ignored the repeated warnings. The Iranian should not have sent a commercial plane into an area where they were engaging in small boat attacks. The Aegis is much upgraded from 32 years ago as most weapon systems have been also. Just consider what your PC was like 32 years ago compared to what you have now.
The analysis in this video has to be among the best a civilian could get without being an actual military contractor. Great job. I particularly liked how you pointed out the differences in US and Russian zone control doctrine in explaining why the capabilities of Patriot and the S-type SAM families differ substantially in certain areas. Doctrine is and has been the sum of all parts since war became more than just a knock-down, drag-out fight between rival villages. It doesn't matter who has the most capable 'X', but who has the best overall capabilities when 'X', 'Y' and 'Z' are all deployed in concert.
It is incredible the lack of maturity these issues are approached with. It is not a matter of supporting one side or another, it is a matter of understanding what may happen if a conflict breaks out because then it will be of paramount importance.
Since clever people exist everywhere in the world, the only sure thing is that each side will be in for surprises. There is no invincible technology or tactic, they are introduced, peak and the they are replaced by something else. In a war this process is incredibly accelerated. NO side should be confident to have any form of superiority.
@Zahir Datoo Sure thing bud
So S400 is using NordVPN?
Love your objective analysis!
Great video. S-400 is indeed probably the best missile system in the world, but it suffers from the same issue as any other SAM, it's ground based and not that good on its own. Even with the mast radar, Earth is round and you can't see past 40-50 km against low flying targets (and that's supposing flat terrain, that said, putting it on a mountain can also help against this). And 40-50 km is well within the range of a HARM or many other ground attack missiles, which makes the system vulnerable if it's not part of an integrated defense system as a few attacking aircraft can just approach low, peek over the horizon, launch a salvo of several missiles, go low again, turn around and leave. So, probably the best, but limited for being just a SAM. So I'd think that it wouldn't work well near the frontlines where such low flying attacks against it are possible, but it would be better in the rear where other units can cover against this, and the S-400 can defend against medium to high altitude attacks.
It can not be the best until proven
The transition into that paid promotion was smooth AF
The best overall coverage of the system capabilities I've seen so far 👌
Thank you comrade Binkov 👊
Next: Laser Anti-air system
Same as any system, it needs competent and constant upkeep to perform at full capacity, which it often doesn't get. Reminds me of a story about a Phantom pilot in Vietnam who had far mroe success than others with SRAAMs when they were first introduced because he knew the systems and did his own upkeep on them.
Love your videos!
I like watching the Russian S300 and S400 cold launches. They kick the missile out of tube, then fire their rocket motor. Are there any clips of missile misfires after leaving the tube?
Yes, search for “S-300 misfire” you can se a failed missile launch.
nah as it turns out it's the TOR system, almost 100% accurate against civilian airliners.
Does death of 200 people make you laugh?
@@bogdanbogdanoff5164 they will not be the last but with your help we can stop death.
@@Xylos101 you mean nuke tel aviv?
Holy shit 😂😂😂
@@bogdanbogdanoff5164 Thankfully the Jews/Israelis moved their capital. Tel Aviv here we come.
As asked for any anti air system.
The most important question
is the S-400 better against shooting down blood sucking mosquito's then other systems ?
If it can shoot down mosquitoes then it's the best anti air defense.
@@edilbertorivera3467 that has been a dream of mine. Super mini sized s-400 for countering multiple mosquitos
I enjoy listening to yer commentary
Send E/A18G Growlers with F15/F16/F18/22/35 as escort.
Make a video explaining in detail the 1989 US invasion of Panama, about the strategies and organization used by both sides. It would be interesting.
I do love the fact that your videos get the brain juices flowing :~)
Maybe a Turkey vs Egypt video because of the Tensions between Turkey and Egypt over Lybia.
We are brother with Egypt.There will be no war between us.I wish Egypt will shake off Sisi as soon as posible.Amin.
@@stardustuniverse6941 they can't shake him off. They need Turkey to help them.
4: 00 - is Binkov having a stroke?
A question the "crew" for each SAAM that was show in the video is counting the troops to defend the perimeter? Or this is not need because will troops from other forces to defend the battery?
I don't think you are deploying a s400 battery in locations where you are worrying about ground forces.
This channel, I love it!
I love all your videos Binkhov, but you always seem most at home discussing aerial combat and related topics
Not to be an asshole or anything, but 360 degree tracking on a long range SAM is the biggest thing since whooptee doo. Unless you are afraid of your own airforce attacking you, you only need to look at your borders.
They probably are afraid of that
it could be useful if you place them on a island or something, its not like having the option should make the system weaker
F-35 is not completely invisible from radar but Very Low Observable (VLO)
Very Low Observable, yes, at close range. But beyond 20 to 30 miles . . .
The F-35, F-22, and B-2 bomber are completely invisible to radar.
The B-1B bomber is slightly stealthier than the SU-57, but by American standards, we do not consider it a "stealth" aircraft.
@@RedRider1600 i work with radar equipments. all of the aircraft u mentioned can be spotted with radar but it is just on & off depending on the angle of the aircraft. Radar bands, type & size/power also a factor. a small military radar on an aircraft might miss signature but a huge powerful radar definitely able to detect return signature of those aircrafts.
@@2ndkombat
Not even huge powerful radar can detect true stealth aircraft, like the F-35 beyond 20 or 30 miles.
Unless you are talking about low frequency radars, that are too large to fit on ships and aircraft,
and definitely too large to fit on missiles. . .
The strength of a radar signal itself has little to do with stealth detection.
But the problem with low frequency radars, besides being massively too big, is that they are too inaccurate and too imprecise to use for targeting and precise tracking. They are large, usually immobile targets, that could be detected from hundreds of miles or thousands of miles away, and would be destroyed at the start of a war. The more powerful the radar is, the easier it is to detect and destroy them. We already know where they all are.
@@2ndkombat detection maybe..but keep tracking the target is a different story
Wow, that ad read transition was fiiiiiire! 🔥🔥🔥
The deadliest SAM system - according to Russia today. Not according to ATACMS missiles from the 1990s...
Hi bro.... I do not agree with this analysis because S400 is one element of IADS that contains others VHF RADAR, short range air defense system and even jets fighters....it's a real forteresse
short answer: yes
long answer: it has some weaknesses but it's a good all-rounder
"... and a kitchen sink". 😂 Awesome video and analysis.
Ah, S400 uses NordVPN, got it!
F-35s use expressVPN
haha I hope the s400 doesn't use nordVPN to keep its data safe or else we might have a problem...
As a system I'm sure its very capable. The problem with very large high speed long range missiles is that they will be relatively easy to detect and track (using a variety of different technologies). At very high speeds the missile won't be very manoeuvrable, which will make it relatively easy to evade by a small fighter target. We also don't know if US AESA radars will be able to jam the seeker head either. I suspect the system using the smaller high speeds missiles is likely to be more effective. However, that assumes F-35 would attack at latitude to user GPS/Laser guided bombs. These days they are more likely to be using smart self guided stand-off glide weapons or missiles. Other aircraft are likely to adopt low altitudes to seek to use land cover.
Before any strike package arrives, the US would certainly used F-35 pr F-15 based extend range HARM missiles to degrade the S-400 radar suite, probably fired from a relatively low altitude or behind the radar horizon using targeting data from other high altitude F-35 or AWACS/ELINT systems. We also have no idea how effective onboard ECM systems are either.
As you say, the fundamental problem with countering stealth fighters is the accuracy and effectiveness of the targeting radar(s).
when usa invaded iraq they used decoy drones to make the iraq s 200 systems waste their missiles . they flew in 200 drones past the s 200 and made them shoot it down on purpose while they were focusing on them the b2s hit them taking them out . not a single aircraft was shot down but that was the older system not s400 the f 35 is designed to control 11 drones at once with its headset as decoys
@@apollo-eu4fk s400 has a powerful radar it can fry the electronics inside drones.
@@r.p5380 The s400 kills stealth fighters by the hundreds. If there is one in theater it will consume the enemy with fire balls from its eyes and lightning from its arse.
@@apollo-eu4fk Its not the same. Iraq used the S200 as a single system and not part of a larger anti air group as the russians. Wasting missiles against drones is a pretty novice mistake or born from desperation if no other, more capable system in present to deal with the drones.
@@Zappina You don't know if it's a decoy or not if they are then you get exposed if they aren't they bomb you
what kind of illustration software do you use?
Awesome video! And great analysis of comparing to other SAMs!
Any plans to analyze the S500?
Iran's SAM are excellent at taking down commercial airliners.
Duke of Lorraine They shot down the Plane on purpose
That was TOR-M1
@@user1596 what would they have gained by that ? There were riots in Iran AGAINST the iranian government after they admitted having shot down that plane.
It looks more like an accident that is to be expected of a questionably competent chain of command in a situation when they were trigger-happy...
Too soon
Duke of Lorraine Nobody understands the Mullahs. But if anything I think its a message against Iranians who live abroad. If you look closely at it, there were mainly Dual Citizens of Western/Iranian Origin on the Plane.
Can you please make video about different radar bands like s, x and so on? What's the difference between them. Please Blinkov?
NASAMS 2 has 2 missiles now. the Aim-120D and a hybrid variant of the 120D with a SM-2 ER booster. the Delta allows use of datalink guidance, so the battery search radar can be silent and allow platforms like AWACS and F-35 to guide the missile on target. How well it works in a jammed area is unknown tho.
The S-400 Surface-To-Air Missile: The perfect target for the AGM-88 HARM Missile.
It can track planes in behind the lines .
@@jonathangant251 In order for the S-400 Surface-To-Air Missile System to do that, it has to emit an active radar pulse. That makes it vulnerable to the AGM-88 HARM Missile. The AGM-88 HARM Missile has a operational range of 150 kilometres; 92 miles (80 nmi). It has a speed of 2,280 km/h (1,420 mph).
SDBs are better imo than HARMs,S-400s never works alone,smaller SAMs(Pantsir, Tor) guarding them against precision guided weapons.Planes can launch more SDBs than HARMs to overpower SAMs.Imo S-400 is mediocre,just like Patriots , because it requires too much baby sitting to remain effective.Too static.S-350s represents future SAMs much better.Very mobile,hard to find,good but not insane range.
@@vindicare9636 SDBs have an operational range of about 60 miles (110 km). If it's my choice, I'll choose HARMs. Let the Iranians turn their radars on and get a pretty present. BOOM! If all else fails, use a Cruise Missile.
@@southtexasprepper1837 Yes,but combine it with 5th generation jets.They can strike targets with impunity,and more cost effective than HARMs,and much easier to make than cruise missiles,and fighter jets can carry more of them.If you launch HARMs too early,a modern SAM simply powers down its radar and starts moving and you wasted missiles, see Yugoslavia ,The trick with stealth is imo,that modern SAMs can track,and shot down a stealth plane.The real question is at what range can a SAM track a stealth plane,probably less than 100 kilometers if i pessimistic,and less than 50 kilometers if i am optimistic,combine that with an SDB,which is a hard target itself,and cheap,and you've got a very good challenge for SAM operators. Numerous small targets, in quick succession,instead of 2-8 targets.Plus SDBs do not care if the radar is powered down. The S-350 is a direct answer for the F-35 in that regard,it has more missiles(12 / launcher vs 4/launcher), quicker to deploy and leave firing position,and has active radar homing missiles,meaning it has fire-and-forget capabilities,and its locator can see 360°,against the S-400 90°.
Since the Vietnam war the US has been able to destroy the best Russian SAM missiles on the ground before they can launch, simply by homing a missile on the SAM's tracking radar which is visible when switched on. The more powerful the radar the easier for a missile to lock on to it and the S-400 has a very big signature, certainly more than an attacking aircraft firing a small stand-off anti-radiation missile.
fair comment, but anti-radar missiles in today's ultra-saturated radar field will be lost and will not be able to operate effectively.
honestly i think russia would be saturated with SAM's, as their home is much more important then vietnam was, to try and force a situation where a destroyed S-400 is avenged by multiple more next to it. Thought that will also depend on how much both side's radar and everything else has improved, which civilians like us will not have any access to such information, and how the newest classified missiles work, what their range is, etc
@@Anti_Everything
Utter nonsense. They just send stealth drones to map out their SAM locations with passive radar. And they have actually zero chance of detecting it until it's like 50 km away. While broadcasting there location out to 400km. Than simultaneously launch Stealth Anti-radiation radiation missiles at each Radar location they found. They are really small fly low and slow and it is too late by the time they detected one. They can also launch 2,400Km 3D thrust vectoring missiles, or mach 20 hypersonic glide vehicles ground-based SAMs are ineffective at stopping stealth fighters. The only way to actually stop stealth fighters is with other stealth fighters. F-35s have already flown right past S-400 missile systems. This is just more overhyped Russian Bullock trying to sell weapons.
@@electrolysisresearch8013 Are you the third of the Brothers Grimm? You write fairy tales just as well. Stealth, stealth, stealth .. You believe so blindly in this untested technology that you are ready to shove it everywhere. Even non-existent missiles and weapons.
@@electrolysisresearch8013mach 20 hypersonic glide vehicle's?USA has those?Wake up kid
Thankfully US Army has finally selected a new radar for the Patriot system. This new radar, made by Raytheon, is, of course, an AESA type radar, but more importantly it has a 360 degree coverage. Other data are not available since they're classified but it's fairly certain to presume that the sensitivity and the anti jamming capability are significantly improved too.
As far as S-400 is concerned, I won't be an asshole here and claim that our stealthy fighters and bombers would penetrate the ground covered by the S-400 like nothing. But that being said I have to point out that USAF has been intensively practicing and war gaming, tactics, procedures and weapons used, to counter these modern SAM systems. Let's just hope we will never have to find out whose side bet on the wrong horse. Us with the offensive doctrine with stealthy strike assets, or their side with strong defensive doctrine using more capable SAM systems.
That being said I have no doubts that the US Army could develop and field SAM systems that are more capable, even than the future S-500 system. That confidence comes from the fact that our Navy uses the most advanced SAM system in the world - Aegis with SM family of missiles together with the ESSM. The latest Aegis system combined with the coming SPY-6 radar is the only system in the world, naval or land, that can perform ballistic and anti air mission in the same time. All that could be copied and developed for the Patriot replacement. Since that would cost billions of $ and we are in the midst of a comprehensive modernization process, priorities must be developed first. From the nuclear overhaul (GBSD, Columbia class submarines and LRSO missile), to the Next gen air dominance fighter jet, to B-21 Raider and finally a complete overhaul of the US Army's long range firepower. From the longer range howitzer technology to the Precision strike missile meant to replace ATACMS and finally the plethora of different hypersonic systems that are being developed... Priorities, priorities...
@Anton Smirnov it shot an f117, not with its own radar but with a radar complex around serbia, but did you forget that that plane alone put several hundreds of bombs into Belgrade before it was shot down, and it was shot down via a predictable routine, Serbian spotters in Italy, and lastly, too poor of the weather for fighter escorts and Prowlers (the plane that jams radar)
@@rolebole8482 We also didn't declare war and massively attack the country first. We sent a surgical strike to prevent further war, and it worked out. We potentially could have destroyed the whole damn site first, like Iraq. We weren't into being barbaric.
@@rolebole8482 none of what u said is true
Remember Saudi Arabia Oil facilities destroyed while protected by US Patriots SAM? 'Cause it didn't work at all against Iran attack. So stop beleiving Dreams ans face the" REAL"...or reality. Don't worry, USA still has GAFA companies...and that IS good.:-).
@@aleksa3025 how is it wrong though?
General Hostage of ACC and General Bogdan have said the F-35 is more stealthy than the F-22. That means it's RCS is less than .0001M2, not .0014M2. And it's very likely stealthy down to L-Band with significant RCS reduction down to UHF. It's called fibermat, which LM announced as a breakthrough stealth material in 2010.
Another excellent Commissar!
Hey do Egypt vs Turkey! As an Egyptian I'd love to see the outcome since both Armies are close in terms of Quantity and Quality.
The S-400 missile system is effective, but it has deficiencies. It's completely ineffective against tanks and armored bunkers
Well its SAM system, specifically designed to eliminate air threats.
@@jakiwijaya7316 i think he is joking
@@Amirali-tx3nw idk, but my first thought is also he is joking
@@Amirali-tx3nw i don't think so
It's been proven to be ineffective against low flying cruise missiles, like the Tomahawk.
And most likely ineffective against stealth aircraft. It's never shot down a single true stealth aircraft, not even in it's development and testing.
Good overview. However, I would have liked to see the Sky Bow included in the list of compared systems. It seems the Sky Bow 2 has a lot going for it. I also would have liked to see a little more detail on David's Sling, as it was barely touched on in a lot of sections.
JZ909 he said that davids sling offers little public info
@@juanguzman9031 There are piles of public data. I'm not sure what they're talking about/what he's missing.
Your videos are awesome man. Good shit.
part of me feels that stand off weapons and precision satellites will make large air defense like s400 obsolete.
Yes, turns out it very much can. And not just right now in Ukraine, Israeli's have been pushing through these no issue in the Middle-East since Russia took a larger part in helping the Syrian government.
S-400 isnt deployed in Ukraine.
Edit: sorry, it was actually used in Ukraine war but not in Ukraine lands, the only wartime it saw was when an S-400 SAM system downed a Ukrainian SU-27 over Kiev, from the Belarus border, very impressive.
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Israel has a history of owning arabs using russian soviet weaponry lmao
Russia deployed them just in case, shooting down an airplane is an act of war
Just as I suspected. The huge number of missiles many sources say the S-400 can launch never account for what kind of small shorter range variants that are being used. 40N6 is impressive still, but not at the high volume everyone claims. Thanks for all the research you commit to doing!
WOW! great job.
It’s definitely one of if not the best in the world. I’m not sure I buy the official line of an engagement range against stealthed aircraft of 150km, this seems optimistic. However against conventional aircraft and cruise missiles the S-400 is absolutely deadly with a kill probability of 90% and considering current Russian doctrine (also US doctrine) states that anything worth shooting one missile at is worth shooting two to ensure a kill means the S-400 would put paid to anyone.
Current US doctrine against S-400 and similar advanced SAMs are to locate them ahead of time with satellite or drones and then perform a saturation attack on each missile battalion radar emitter using cruise or ballistic missiles at stand off ranges. By saturation attack I mean determining how many missiles a S-400 battalion can intercept simultaneously and then firing that amount +1, which is a very American way to wage war (we beat you over the head with our wallets.)
As an aside that is also the current Chinese doctrine against the US Navy in the Pacific - if we were to go to war with China they have a pretty good idea how many anti-ship cruise or ballistic missiles a carrier battle group can shoot down at once so their plan is simply to fire more than that from coastal batteries. It’s a good plan and there really isn’t any defense against it.
Cant fighter jets and bombers also fire AS missles?not just coastal batteries?oh and can a surveillance plane guide missiles launched from other systems?
elia haj yes. As far as a surveillance plane, not really. Maybe an AWACS could depending on the datalink capability and the missile’s capability, though. But probably not, even then. Being able to redirect a missile in flight is the same as being able to hack a missile in flight, potentially.
Most anti-ship cruise missiles function like this: give it a location (or the oldest ones a heading and distance) and a targeting priority for its terminal guidance radar/sensors, like biggest ship or first contact or for modern ones might have an internal database of ship types, then it goes into seek and destroy mode based on the programming once it gets near the location you programmed in.
As far as the coastal batteries it’s because the longest range antiship missiles China has, especially their new ballistic one, can’t be fired from an aircraft.
They’ve also got really old and cheap antiship cruise missiles that are too large to fire from aircraft (silkworms) but they have so many of them it’s suitable to mass fire them.
Short range anti ship missiles can be fired from their J10s though, so you could expect a mass of J10s doing the same thing but essentially just acting as the first stage, albeit a reusable one, of antiship missiles.
Michael Munson this is also Iran’s doctrine against the 5th fleet in the Gulf. Saturation attacks using shore, ship, fast attack craft, drones, subs, and mines. Ballistic missiles saturation attacks concurrently on the airbases and army bases in the region. So basically thousands of munitions all fired with minutes of each other. America wouldn’t stand a chance.
@@SpiraSpiraSpira yeah and what's also interesting is that in the falkland war the British had a "modern anti air missile that can intercept anti ship missiles sea viper is its name?"but when fired in a salvo to portect a cargo ship(6 missiles maybe)against two exocet missiles they all miss,only one case I know of AS missile being intercepted, not to mention that 20 aircraft shot down way more arg aircraft than all of the escorting destroyers and did most of the bombing on argentinean air bases so destroyers start to feel useless from the start for me not to mention that china would have more aircraft than those on all of the US carriers,I cant 8magine a non nuclear war between the two countries actually happening.
Jay Whoisit Jay Whoisit I am very skeptical of their ability to pull that off. US surveillance would see the preparatory steps and once it became clear of Iran’s intentions the US would preemptively strike. The US wouldn’t let Iran wind up for a sucker punch like that. China has the advantage in that their military is more or less ready to strike like that quickly. The Persians have a good military, especially Air Force, but their state of preparedness is nowhere near pulling off a concurrent attack like you describe without telegraphing it ahead of time IMHO. But I might be wrong, and you are correct in that is their plan. That’s what a US Marine general used when he was the OPFOR commander playing a Iran-like Force in a famous war game a couple decades ago, and it worked exactly how you describe: ua-cam.com/video/g9b1DG86a4k/v-deo.html
Pretty solid review. One thing you missed is that both S-300 and S-400 are parts of what is called "echeloned air defence" which means that sites would be covered not only by long range S-300/400 but with mid and close range systems as S-350, Buk, Tor, Pancir. That's speaking about number of available interceptors.
Excellent basic analysis! Capabilities is second only to Intentions as The Queen of Intelligence...
Wow! I didn't know Pepe had such a deep voice😂😁
Can it shoot down commercial airliners ?
S300 can
@Luke L. uf
That’s what Russian AA system’s are best at.
Question:Is the s400 best system?
Answer:God bless murica..
The S400 is the best mobile ground based air defense system on the planet. You can't find another system with superior specs and performance.
@Jubei Origami I’ll keep that in mind next time I’m shopping for a surface to air missile
@@badmoose01 keep also in mind that the s400 dont have missiles to do half of the claims and Russian radar technology is decades behind. So if they can't see it, they can't shoot it!
Binkov! I wish you would model allies more often. I like when the geopolitical scenario seems plausible. It means your attack plans are using the same assumptions that the real world military uses.
I loved your NATO 1989 series for this reason. I also like your Japan vs China and (full) EU vs Russia (and Belarus) scenarios as they seem like a plausible contingency if the US were to suddenly become embroiled in internal conflict. Please do more realistic scenarios!
Can you link your sources for this?
How about the THAAD?
If you are a civilian airliner in iran, than yes, the s400 is the deadliest sam of all time.
Iran doesn't operate the S400 system, ya bonehead.
Most likely a Tor system
Your comment is shameful, no matter where it's directed to.
@@awizardlizard6793 leave Jeffrey L alone. He can comment all he wants, you big bully!
@@michaeldiebold8847 I was replying to you, but that went right over your head.
Very good video
Its all comes down to WHO is operating the system: Are they current on their training and maintenance? Are the logistics systems for spare parts functioning as intended? And a whole slew of other questions as well. In the end effect its up to the personnel and of which quality they are. Case in point: my beloved M1 Abrams proved to be easy meat in Yemen for the rebels. It is without a doubt a capable system, but the crews weren't up to the task. That human element will always play the most important roll in any conflict.
Gernerally that is the case
Turkey is a battle-hardened nation. Preparation for war is a necessity in this geography. I'd bet on s400's over the f35 fighters.
@@denizdogru6073 , lol
This article is from Al Masdar News which an Arab anti-Israeli media and they reported how S-400s can't DETECT F-35s, let alone S-300s
uawire.org/american-f-35-fighter-jets-turned-out-to-be-invisible-for-russian-s-400-missile-systems
@@joeblowme5427 funny if you had perfect fighters why you cant sell f35 to Turkey? because we can test two system and if we say s400 able to f35 your 1.5 trillion dolar go to trash.. so dont underestime Turk intelligent.... we are full your bulls*h*t propoganda we bought s400 because platform pass every test and its far better than your expensive junk....
@@joeblowme5427 no, it's from uawire, you corporate shill
The deadliest SAM...is Serious Sam :D
So effective, so untested...
Test and fail.
@@aleczelensky5925 same as F 22 tested and detected 😅😅
@@MICLakVER Really? You should be the one who detected it...on your smartphone...in your bathroom...
@@MICLakVER f22 is considered the best aircraft in the world, it has been used, there is a reason why it is considered the best
No mentioning of both metric and u.s cusomary units at the same time! Nice