@@JoshuaFluke1 it also reminded me of one of your earlier videos when top called our unit a "family" after some shit popped off. Like bro im just here for the health insurance and college money, not this.
@Jack - Yeah and they always pulled that BS prior to a long weekend.. "The safety briefing" where you got to waste 30+ minutes reminding younger, dumber soldiers that having unprotected intercourse, and driving while drunk are "bad".
Unfortunately those extroverts usually end up in some BS positions like Head of Company Culture, where they have all the time in the world to plot their sadistic torture festivals. And I talked to these Ageents of Doom, the fact that some people prefer to go home after 8 hours of work instead of spending their free time doing pointless activities or having team dinners or whatever is beyond them.
What really pisses me off is that the high ranking employees aren't required to participate in this drivel and they don't. Although some will interrupt what you're doing, look you in the eye like they're about to threaten your life and say "I strongly recommend that you go to the company picnic !"
i love not working at the office, not having to commute, i can finally sleep 7-8 hours at night, eat healthy since i dont have to go to fast food for breakfast and lunch. i might live longer
I love being able to do more work in 2 hours at home, than I used to do in 8 hours at the office. That's not including the commuting time I lose on normal years. I also love having a nice peaceful lunch-break watching some UA-cam, or going out for a run when their is still daylight outside during the winter months.
I once "won" one of those meaningless "awards". One day I was sitting slumped in my cubicle thinking about jumping out the window (a normal day in the office in other words) when HR called. They wanted to know what my favourite colour was (I shit you not). Next day I got a "certificate" printed on paper in my favourite colour! Worst thing was it was on hard, glossy paper, totally unsuitable for wiping.
Thanks for the good laugh H O. It is so nice to know there are people who feel about work the same way I do. I often wondered if the people I worked with were on drugs, but perhaps they were better at faking being "excited" than I was.
I was a bank teller in the 1990s. I got a regional sales award, drum roll…..a $4 pen with Commonwealth Bank on the side we gave to new term deposit clients.
Watch the Oscars clip where Ricky Gerveis (The original creator of The Office) demands his Oscar from Steve Carell. It's hilarious because Steve Carell doesn't take it well :)
at my last job, my yearly review with my boss was focused not on my work performance, but on the fact that I did not participate in off-hours "work fun" activities like xmas luncheons, birthday events, etc. Most of my co-workers were at least 20 years older than me and they were not very welcoming to a young woman in their midst. The thought of "breaking bread" with those assholes during MY TIME was abhorrent and even after being scolded, I still refused to attend "work fun times." My yearly pay raise was affected negatively even though my performance and expectations were stellar. I STILL HATE THEM.
That's technically harassment, since what you do on your own time is none of their business, and off-hour activities have nothing to do with work performance. If you could prove that they held down your raise due to things unrelated to work (i.e. if they actually wrote that on your review form), that's a potential lawsuit.
Pro tip: Tell them that you cannot attend because of "religious reasons". Actually, let me introduce you to my religion: I DO NOT F***ING WANT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF WORKING HOURS.
"your deadlines don't change" - this is what some of my managers had a hard time to understand. Before a big category start, I was the only developer who remained in the team and they decided to send everybody for a big "fun" day... 200+ page to validate and fix I just said no, its need to get done as it will hold back everything. Then I got the I am not a team player and having me is bad for the company and I also too expensive. Got fired after a week and get hired back after 4 months for double my old salary...
@@OffGridInvestor as long as u do ur job that’s all that matters . I don’t understand this team build crap . Unless everyone hates each other then make a meeting tell ppl to get along an do the work. Job is about making money . Ppl do there work make the company money . That’s it’s
I was in a fraternity. While I had a lot of fun and as a foreign student I got a unique perspective towards American culture, I also get really fed up of it- we had to show how cool we are and how much fun we are having (especially during rush week for recruitment). I am never ever ever going to be a part of these kinds of “forced fun” cultish organizations and events again. As an IT professional working since 2 years, I don’t even go to my company celebrations now. I come here to work and earn money. That’s it!
@@Pointlessparodys yeah I joined for fun but there are a lot of obligations- going to meetings, engaging with new members, raising funds for events etc (I was in exec team). Sometimes it gets overwhelming- especially when you are paying to do all this work as opposed to being paid for the work.
Its literally the second to worst name you could ever call it only after subservients lol. I think there are developers/managers who get sick satisfaction out of these intential sleights while knowing that you are going to be forced to participate in their sick projects
I had an ex boss that felt that our team looked too gloomy and actually wanted to implement a rule where everyone had to smile during morning meetings. Yes she is also fond of coming up with mandatory "fun sessions". The amount of managers out there with absolutely no leadership skills and understanding of morale is seriously mind boggling.
@@JH-es6ty most of the boomers and xers are retired and sitting at home watching tv, things like this happen a lot in my field (im dev) and it usually comes from people in late 20s and 30s
Most engineers hate people and prefer to be alone to get the work DONE. Having to spend our precious moments with narcissistic HR employees with the IQ of a knat is both psychological and physical torture. Edit: Grammar goes brrr
One of many reasons to never allow oneself to sink down in self value to that of being human doings. If this keeps up I will start calling such work cults.
If they want that they can move to China, where every corporation is an extended arm of the state and every employee is a GREAT SOLDIER IN THE GLORIOUS WAR FOR CHINA! Honestly, look it up. It's very prevalent with Huawei because of their international presence, but it wouldn't surprise me if most were like this. So yeah next time your boss thinks this is a good idea tell him to move it to China 🔨👩🌾🌞🌾
How many man hours did it take to make that virtual reality "hangout"? You can't complain about productivity being low or remote work being inefficient, when you spend it wasting time on silly shit like that.
Yup. Moving further, how much money dud they spend? How much investment that cost? Assuming, that 1 out of 5 people has all that VR equipment handy, companies would ship that crap to employees so they can clap virtually. I can do it with Teams. 👏👏👏
Right? My boss always says that all meetings are expensive and should only include the minimum number of people required for it. Thinking back to a former job I had years ago, we would have meetings where 50 of us were crammed into a meeting room (some people literally had to sit on the floor) to go over some updates. What a goddamn waste.
Compared to open offices where you are under constant surveillance, even a small cubicle gives you the comfort of privacy and the feeling of something being your own.
I miss cubicle too with the tall walls. Usually it's reserved for you. You feel you got your own private space. Huge cabinets and drawers. You can add a lot of creature conforts to make the cube feel comfortable. In Open office. I got a tiny amount of space and it's not always reserved for me.
The push for "workplace activities" is just an excuse to get you used to working longer hours. Only when the actual required hours go up, the "fun" is gonna go right out the window and be real work instead.
I was at a place where the owners started a "social club". Gave us all VERY greasy eggs and bacon. The woman who I worked with said "I can see this dying very quickly". It was intended to happen once a month. It happened JUST ONCE and was never mentioned again.
@@OffGridInvestor exactly! If they want to celebrate employees, don't turn the workplace into a pseudo-funhouse that you can't use, use the extra money to either offer a bonus for the year or have some kind of Christmas party or something, where people can actually have fun
I have a feeling all these companies doing those stupid "work fun activities" over video calls, will eventually use it against the employees as an excuse to make everyone come back to the offices, when most of them can actually just work at home if they want. I can hear the CEOs now, "You had all your fun at home, now it's time to come back to the office! Har! Har!"
I’m a teacher but only work for companies where I can be an independent contractor because they can’t force us to do anything, I’m working toward more independence but this has been fine until I reach that goal. Great reminders of why I’m no longer in the corporate world.
Once interviewing for an internal position I was asked what I thought about the fun Fridays at that department. I knew what the "correct" answers was but instead I said that it wasn't my idea of fun and I'd rather stay at my desk and work. I didn't get the job 😅 Probably a blessing since they clearly hated introverts
I think dumb stuff like this can be actually fun if it is organic and isn’t forced. Like one time my coworkers at McDonald’s sang Be A Man from Mulan and it was kind of an insanely good composition from a random choir of fast food workers. Nobody told us to do it or said we had to. We just did it because we were friends who worked in the same place and happened to want to do that for some reason that day. Honestly things like that are rare and tbh I really couldn’t see myself wanting to hang out with many other coworkers outside of work.
In today's world, they'd tell you and your coworkers to stop singing. Then at the end of the week, they'd have a programmed, coerced, virtue-signaling, happy hour, where everyone has to sing to the boss.
"Mandatory fun." Yes, let's force people to do "fun" activities the last hour of work. Not only will that take time away from your deadline, but you can't skip it. They say it's for morale, but instead of "fun" time, pay me the extra hour anyway and I'll go home. That'll boost my morale more than having to sit through one of those shitty "team building exercises". Either let me go home early and get paid for it, or let me do work until it's time to leave. Either way, the company is getting better quality work out of me.
Honestly I just think it boils down to extroverts Vs introverts attitude towards this kind of stuff. Most programmers are introverts. While HR are mostly extroverts. For them it's actually fun to socialize while as for us we just wanna get out work done and go home to our stuff.
Man,they even hunt you down in the virtual world too. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they say people should sleep at work for "corporare bonding purposes"
@@spacegoat_3d801 during student work placement we had a boss who suggested that some of us work during the day,and some during the night. I knew there some loonies in life but nah fam,they getting too extreme
I'm so happy that something like this would never work in germany. We would just look at our bosses and shake our heads: "Whats wrong with you? I have work to do!"
I remember an awful "we love working here" forced activity where, for some reason, we had to list what we were passionate about. The HR woman running it got shitty at me because I couldn't come up with anything. I was suffering from severe depression.
When I worked my first retail job, they called all of us in at the ass crack of dawn for a ‘meeting’ that turned out to be a ‘team building exercise.’ They tried to make us dance together and play games like we were a bunch of kindergartners. Myself and half of the other employees just huddled angrily in a corner and openly glared at the managers. That never happened again, at least, I think they could tell that most of us didn’t care enough about the job to comply.
Volunteering can be fun. We made a list of local charities that we cared about. We baked cakes for hospice, repaired a garden for altzhimers day centre, painted in an at-risk youth house. If you get like-minded people to manage the process, HR will gladly give the cash to check the corporate boxes. I hate being forced to "Have Fun" but I'll take the cash to do a bit of good in the neighbourhood.
I hate shit like this. Teachers have to do it too. I had a principal who had us do silly races and obstacle courses for team building. I hate forced fun.
I work at a large corporation but thankfully my manager has as much disdain for "mandatory fun" as I do. He doesn't require we do them but he gets in trouble for it.
The worst is when HR people (especially former sorority girls, you know the type) decide to have some meeting that they try to make fun while everyone else is worrying about deadlines and shit they have to do, but are stuck there because Stacy and her friends wanted to throw a party for themselves.
Recently I joined a big western company and one of the first things they send me with a companywide e-mail is that we must attend a social virtual world event for 8th of march where our chief DIVERSITY officer will give us a speech... I live in a country that was part of the former USSR and I have heard alot about political officers, but now I can see one for myself, thats troubling.
i hate the forced "fun" events, no we are not friends, no we are not family, leave me alone and give me the time to go hang out with my real friends and family. i don't care about this job beyond my job requirements.
all companies have started doing this. HR are given goals to make employees "motivated" to return back to office by playing garbage team games. Those with low experience are even threatened that they will not be able to learn from superiors and again experience if they dont come to office.
Great examples of corporate cringe. Everyone hates it except the HR Karens who dream up this garbage. Stop paying those people and pay the workers who do the work!
Ah work events, trainings and fun. We once had 3 full days of training for which we had to prepare homework. That Saturday we also had to fly over the continent for one week on-site team building and education. My flight got cancelled, I had to pack my luggage and was feeling sick but still was forced two nights in a row for a team event. On Sunday, jetlagged I spent the entire day trying to finish watching 60 hrs of videos before the on-site event as mandatory preparation. The whole week on-site being there the whole day, having evening activities and then my manager asked me how I am coming along with my daily responsibilities and act disappointed when we spent literally 18 hrs a day together.
I am so glad my current employer isn't one of those bumwipes. The owner does throw a party once a year, but it's optional and apparently genuinely fun. I wouldn't know, I'm an antisocial btch and never went. We do have a virtual office btw, but that's only there to facilitate a casual communication channel for our majority-telecommuting office workers. Needless to say I hate it, but I have to admit it's useful.
How about a virtual reality workplace where everyone gets to do whatever he/she wants to do. We will then see how people really feel about each otherr.
when we went out on a "management-dinner" it would devolve into a competition on who could get piss drunk the fastest because nobody wanted to be there. I mean we had some fun, in the way that you laugh at your own miserie as a coping mechanism.
My job does these mandatory "activities". All that happens is everyone on first and second shift stops working for an hour. Second shift has to scramble to catch up (second shift has s 1/2 the size of first shift) and the overnight crew (me) comes into madhouse. They tried to include us on third shift but we said no way. We're not going to drive up to an hour to do this exercise, drive home, and then come back 5 hours later. However, we were more than happy to do these team building activities at 3AM with our manager and HR team. This compromise got a very cool reception from management. After that they let sleeping dogs lie when it came to overnighters.
I am thank-full for your channel. I was gaslit and made to feel horrible about myself for not participating and being onboard with this nonsense. I am not a team player? How about, you are a cult!
Wow, corporate insanity really took a dive off the crazy train since I left that world in 2017, don't miss it, even for a minute. WOrkfun = open bar with the managers locked up in a cage...
4:50 My parents got so mad because they knew my co-workers (they were the kids of parents they knew, we all knew each other from school) and my parents were so mad I didn't get one of those silly achievement papers lol.
why do they seem to hire young attractive women to organize all those "fun" events. win win for those young women: easy work easy pay and potentially can shift to other roles.
The movie "Wanted" starring Angelina Jolie, Morgan Freeman and that other dude, as unrealistic as it was, nailed what cubicle farms are really like. I'd rather be attacked by a cleaver-throwing butcher, than sit in a cubicle.
Maybe you could do an episode on the culture of the post office. They're a federal agency, but they operate like a corporation. Their job descriptions aren't even *accurate* . I can't vouch for the white collar side of their operation, but their office-side culture is so bad that people kill themselves over it. They do some dev stuff, so it would at least be semi-relevant.
we call it "mandatory fun" in the army and its just as cringe
brb changing title
What was the original title?
@@Rugg-qk4pl forced fun
@@JoshuaFluke1 it also reminded me of one of your earlier videos when top called our unit a "family" after some shit popped off. Like bro im just here for the health insurance and college money, not this.
@Jack - Yeah and they always pulled that BS prior to a long weekend.. "The safety briefing" where you got to waste 30+ minutes reminding younger, dumber soldiers that having unprotected intercourse, and driving while drunk are "bad".
Nothing is worse than pretending to have fun with people you really don’t like.
My mgr asked me why I wanted to switch from Day hours to nights 🌃 ... mmmm 😑
Hahaha....true that bro 😂
David, i feel you. Some people are having such an ugly soul, that you want change shifts
Respectfully disagree. It's slightly worse when your partner kinda low-key does enjoy it and drags me along
@@DavidLLambertmobile Smart move! 🤣🤣
The best job I ever had was when my boss lived on the east coast and I never saw him or even talked to him.. it was awesome
Was? Why'd you leave then?
@@zhin13 Company downsized
@@mechmaverick Oh that's a shame. But it's life, I guess. Hopefully the one you have now is tolerable at least.
Now Your boss will be happy to this comment
@@rohi7597 Im my own boss now
I feel like the extrovert 1% of every office creates the social rules that burden 99% of all employees, 'mandatory fun' makes me sick to my stomach
Unfortunately those extroverts usually end up in some BS positions like Head of Company Culture, where they have all the time in the world to plot their sadistic torture festivals. And I talked to these Ageents of Doom, the fact that some people prefer to go home after 8 hours of work instead of spending their free time doing pointless activities or having team dinners or whatever is beyond them.
What really pisses me off is that the high ranking employees aren't required to participate in this drivel and they don't. Although some will interrupt what you're doing, look you in the eye like they're about to threaten your life and say "I strongly recommend that you go to the company picnic !"
They're the popular kids in HS, and just like they did during your school years. They're gonna make you miserable in your workplace as well
Extroverts are the maggots on top of the shit pile
Gotta love the Soviet-style slave labor singalongs 😂 😂 😂
i love not working at the office, not having to commute, i can finally sleep 7-8 hours at night, eat healthy since i dont have to go to fast food for breakfast and lunch. i might live longer
Less commuting also means cleaner air and fewer accidents in your community!
I love being able to do more work in 2 hours at home, than I used to do in 8 hours at the office. That's not including the commuting time I lose on normal years.
I also love having a nice peaceful lunch-break watching some UA-cam, or going out for a run when their is still daylight outside during the winter months.
specially the commuting part...i dont miss that traffic at all
might live longer, and WANT to. :)
Live longer? Why would you want to live longer when you can spend a ton of time with your corporate "family"?
I once "won" one of those meaningless "awards". One day I was sitting slumped in my cubicle thinking about jumping out the window (a normal day in the office in other words) when HR called. They wanted to know what my favourite colour was (I shit you not). Next day I got a "certificate" printed on paper in my favourite colour! Worst thing was it was on hard, glossy paper, totally unsuitable for wiping.
That last bit 😂
Thanks for the good laugh H O. It is so nice to know there are people who feel about work the same way I do. I often wondered if the people I worked with were on drugs, but perhaps they were better at faking being "excited" than I was.
I was a bank teller in the 1990s. I got a regional sales award, drum roll…..a $4 pen with Commonwealth Bank on the side we gave to new term deposit clients.
@@shaneblack8082Hey, look at you! You get to… write things.
@@woodside4life Did one of the bigger boys steal your crayons?
The Office was specifically created to make fun of this kind of people, but they still don't get the message (just like Michael Scott).
hahahah lmao
I never knew the Office culture was so prevalent before this channel though
Watch the Oscars clip where Ricky Gerveis (The original creator of The Office) demands his Oscar from Steve Carell. It's hilarious because Steve Carell doesn't take it well :)
The Office (both versions) was at times so accurate I couldn’t stand watching it.
I love The Office and Akward Black Girl because of how accurate they are. 😂
at my last job, my yearly review with my boss was focused not on my work performance, but on the fact that I did not participate in off-hours "work fun" activities like xmas luncheons, birthday events, etc. Most of my co-workers were at least 20 years older than me and they were not very welcoming to a young woman in their midst. The thought of "breaking bread" with those assholes during MY TIME was abhorrent and even after being scolded, I still refused to attend "work fun times." My yearly pay raise was affected negatively even though my performance and expectations were stellar. I STILL HATE THEM.
I completely understand why some people go off the deep end and shoot up the office. I don't condone it but I understand it.
Go and egg the place. During work hours. And do what I do and give a review thru Google maps.
same, unless i knew the co workers i was coo with were going i usually avoid all off hours companies events
@@vercingetorix9005 Same with schools.
That's technically harassment, since what you do on your own time is none of their business, and off-hour activities have nothing to do with work performance. If you could prove that they held down your raise due to things unrelated to work (i.e. if they actually wrote that on your review form), that's a potential lawsuit.
we had a "forced" online christmas party at work last year..that was the saddest thing I ever experienced.
I was supposed to attend 10, over 10 years. After the first one, I was unfortunately double booked for that night every succeeding year...
@@imho2278 lols
Pro tip: Tell them that you cannot attend because of "religious reasons". Actually, let me introduce you to my religion: I DO NOT F***ING WANT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF WORKING HOURS.
Nice hair dude
Bro, they did the same for me, we had to watch a video of senior leadership sing the 12 days of Christmas. Hardest I've ever cringed
"your deadlines don't change" - this is what some of my managers had a hard time to understand. Before a big category start, I was the only developer who remained in the team and they decided to send everybody for a big "fun" day... 200+ page to validate and fix I just said no, its need to get done as it will hold back everything. Then I got the I am not a team player and having me is bad for the company and I also too expensive. Got fired after a week and get hired back after 4 months for double my old salary...
Not a team player..... Should've told them that they're not a deadline keeper. More interested in fun than the actual job they're paid for.
Just wow
@@OffGridInvestor Stealing this for future use. Almost anything that gets me out of mandatory fun is good.
@@OffGridInvestor as long as u do ur job that’s all that matters . I don’t understand this team build crap . Unless everyone hates each other then make a meeting tell ppl to get along an do the work. Job is about making money . Ppl do there work make the company money . That’s it’s
The virtual reality shit looks like straight out of some onion satire video.
Why can't they just meet in VRchat or something ? This already exists in way better. Fucking phony corpo swill.
@@TheMiracleMatter There shouldn't even be a need to turn any cameras on in the first place.
Good thing I get insanely nauseous during VR and 3D movies. I would have an excuse to get out of those things.
All I could think about was that terrible lawnmower man movie.....
@@TheMiracleMatter Even SecondLife is better than that shit
We sold our office so now I get to be remote forever, Josh!!!
wtf so lucky
I'm so jealous.
I fucking wish my company would do the same... Maybe I wouldn't be leaving it in half a year then
I got contract so i can work from home too. I have been waiting for this a long time
that's great! And if someone complaining that his company is not doing the same - go end change your employer, that's the only way to be happy
As an introvert, this is what a nightmare really means.
I was in a fraternity. While I had a lot of fun and as a foreign student I got a unique perspective towards American culture, I also get really fed up of it- we had to show how cool we are and how much fun we are having (especially during rush week for recruitment). I am never ever ever going to be a part of these kinds of “forced fun” cultish organizations and events again. As an IT professional working since 2 years, I don’t even go to my company celebrations now. I come here to work and earn money. That’s it!
What? That's what a fraternity is, you join it for fun. I have no idea why they would give you a bid if that's how you see it lmao
@@Pointlessparodys yeah I joined for fun but there are a lot of obligations- going to meetings, engaging with new members, raising funds for events etc (I was in exec team). Sometimes it gets overwhelming- especially when you are paying to do all this work as opposed to being paid for the work.
@@Pointlessparodys Fun is great, but mandated fun - not so much. That is when the problems start.
For a guy with 2 years work experience you have 40 years of work wisdom. Cheers to you good Sir!
"Fun" is what nobody has to get PAID to do.
when your on salary and don't know if your obligated to go... lol
It's funny how "softservians" sounds _exactly_ "subservience"
These managers know exactly what they are doing......
Subserviant is even closer
Or soft servants 😶
Soft serve is ice cream
Its literally the second to worst name you could ever call it only after subservients lol. I think there are developers/managers who get sick satisfaction out of these intential sleights while knowing that you are going to be forced to participate in their sick projects
I had an ex boss that felt that our team looked too gloomy and actually wanted to implement a rule where everyone had to smile during morning meetings. Yes she is also fond of coming up with mandatory "fun sessions". The amount of managers out there with absolutely no leadership skills and understanding of morale is seriously mind boggling.
they would learn to understand if we the Employees were allowed to give them some Heavy-Duty "Percussiv Maintenance"
she had no useful skills and was there profiting off the backs of useful employees. watch out for bubbly young women especially on this .
It never ocurred to your boss that by simply leaving the room, she could get everyone to smile.
@@elcapitan6126yep - "diversity hire".
I absolutely love corporate cringe 😂😂😂
only when you are not part of it lol
stuff like this is proof that millennials are worse than boomers and xers
@@user-bn5xg6wu1p what do you mean?
@@user-bn5xg6wu1p Boomers and xers are usually the folks coming up with this nonsense...
@@JH-es6ty most of the boomers and xers are retired and sitting at home watching tv, things like this happen a lot in my field (im dev) and it usually comes from people in late 20s and 30s
Most engineers hate people and prefer to be alone to get the work DONE. Having to spend our precious moments with narcissistic HR employees with the IQ of a knat is both psychological and physical torture.
Edit: Grammar goes brrr
You hit the nail on the head! I physically recoil at the mention of a corporate party or an unnecessary team-building exercise.
@@joshuaamberson5266 HR just wants its employees to clap and bark like a bunch of seals in approval of their existence.
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@@theresa78201 gnat
it's almost like these corporations want us to identify our entire lives in conjunction with the company......
Almost? lol it's 100% true
One of many reasons to never allow oneself to sink down in self value to that of being human doings. If this keeps up I will start calling such work cults.
You’re just now getting this?!
If they want that they can move to China, where every corporation is an extended arm of the state and every employee is a GREAT SOLDIER IN THE GLORIOUS WAR FOR CHINA!
Honestly, look it up. It's very prevalent with Huawei because of their international presence, but it wouldn't surprise me if most were like this.
So yeah next time your boss thinks this is a good idea tell him to move it to China 🔨👩🌾🌞🌾
Yeah 👍 total control thing.
Just when I think I’m having a bad day, here comes Josh roasting these corporations. Keep it up bud!
If you didn't tell me that was a Katy perry song I would not be able to decipher what in the world they were singing.
Katy Perry songs tend to do that...
That’s why I hated going to team events - the work was just piling up and everyone had to work extra hard to catch up
That Katy Perry bakery thing made me want to jump off a cliff.
well said
I'd spend the whole fucking day in the bathroom if I had to be working that day.
Their voices were the off-key wailings of the damned.
I would rather shovel shit than sing Katy Perry songs, but I bet that even people who shovel shit would be forced to do it.
there there
How many man hours did it take to make that virtual reality "hangout"? You can't complain about productivity being low or remote work being inefficient, when you spend it wasting time on silly shit like that.
Yup, prob a startup about to run out of funds
Yup. Moving further, how much money dud they spend? How much investment that cost? Assuming, that 1 out of 5 people has all that VR equipment handy, companies would ship that crap to employees so they can clap virtually.
I can do it with Teams. 👏👏👏
Right? My boss always says that all meetings are expensive and should only include the minimum number of people required for it.
Thinking back to a former job I had years ago, we would have meetings where 50 of us were crammed into a meeting room (some people literally had to sit on the floor) to go over some updates. What a goddamn waste.
I’m plotting my way to quit my current job...can’t wait for freedom! This is beyond cringy!!!
OMG (i'm trying too)
What will we do when all of humanity quits?
@@romcd5432 Deal with it.
Me too. My Boss is a narcissist and a cringe making, happy clappy, " We are family.." Bullshitter. Can't wait to leave...
I loathed the corporate 'fun'. One time we had to sit in groups and make shapes out of flexible pipe cleaners. It was appalling.
My condolences
Had to pretend it was fun but really crying inside
@@bodazephyr6629
Welcome to work CULTure
The most fun I have at work is checking my bank account on Friday mornings
amen! lol
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I miss sitting in cubicles more than I miss open offices.
Compared to open offices where you are under constant surveillance, even a small cubicle gives you the comfort of privacy and the feeling of something being your own.
@@OtherDalfite Then Open office still gave you the luxury to feel your desk as yours so "hot desk" created...
v-very true
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They come up with khara every week, dont they. Busy jews
I miss cubicle too with the tall walls. Usually it's reserved for you. You feel you got your own private space. Huge cabinets and drawers. You can add a lot of creature conforts to make the cube feel comfortable.
In Open office. I got a tiny amount of space and it's not always reserved for me.
The push for "workplace activities" is just an excuse to get you used to working longer hours. Only when the actual required hours go up, the "fun" is gonna go right out the window and be real work instead.
I was at a place where the owners started a "social club". Gave us all VERY greasy eggs and bacon. The woman who I worked with said "I can see this dying very quickly". It was intended to happen once a month. It happened JUST ONCE and was never mentioned again.
@@OffGridInvestor exactly! If they want to celebrate employees, don't turn the workplace into a pseudo-funhouse that you can't use, use the extra money to either offer a bonus for the year or have some kind of Christmas party or something, where people can actually have fun
I have a feeling all these companies doing those stupid "work fun activities" over video calls, will eventually use it against the employees as an excuse to make everyone come back to the offices, when most of them can actually just work at home if they want. I can hear the CEOs now, "You had all your fun at home, now it's time to come back to the office! Har! Har!"
I’m a teacher but only work for companies where I can be an independent contractor because they can’t force us to do anything, I’m working toward more independence but this has been fine until I reach that goal. Great reminders of why I’m no longer in the corporate world.
ProTip: Any prolonged interaction that isn't voluntary isn't fun. 🤦🏾♂️😂
Once interviewing for an internal position I was asked what I thought about the fun Fridays at that department. I knew what the "correct" answers was but instead I said that it wasn't my idea of fun and I'd rather stay at my desk and work. I didn't get the job 😅 Probably a blessing since they clearly hated introverts
I think dumb stuff like this can be actually fun if it is organic and isn’t forced. Like one time my coworkers at McDonald’s sang Be A Man from Mulan and it was kind of an insanely good composition from a random choir of fast food workers. Nobody told us to do it or said we had to. We just did it because we were friends who worked in the same place and happened to want to do that for some reason that day. Honestly things like that are rare and tbh I really couldn’t see myself wanting to hang out with many other coworkers outside of work.
In today's world, they'd tell you and your coworkers to stop singing. Then at the end of the week, they'd have a programmed, coerced, virtue-signaling, happy hour, where everyone has to sing to the boss.
@@Seattle-2017 that happened maybe a like a few years ago so idk
The situation where you have to pretend to be having fun while inside you are hating it.
"Mandatory fun." Yes, let's force people to do "fun" activities the last hour of work. Not only will that take time away from your deadline, but you can't skip it. They say it's for morale, but instead of "fun" time, pay me the extra hour anyway and I'll go home. That'll boost my morale more than having to sit through one of those shitty "team building exercises". Either let me go home early and get paid for it, or let me do work until it's time to leave. Either way, the company is getting better quality work out of me.
It's funny how they say it's "for morale", but then lower said morale by having mandatory team-building exercises, LMAO.
Honestly I just think it boils down to extroverts Vs introverts attitude towards this kind of stuff. Most programmers are introverts. While HR are mostly extroverts. For them it's actually fun to socialize while as for us we just wanna get out work done and go home to our stuff.
is it possible for someone to be Both an Introvert and extrovert and Not like these "Mandatory fun" sessions
@@johnmivule-novabow8143 both an extrovert and introvert?
@@TheVladdracula1 yeah
@@johnmivule-novabow8143 you mean... Ambivert?
@@TheVladdracula1 yup
Man,they even hunt you down in the virtual world too.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they say people should sleep at work for "corporare bonding purposes"
Some companies encourage employees to sleep in the office
@@spacegoat_3d801 during student work placement we had a boss who suggested that some of us work during the day,and some during the night.
I knew there some loonies in life but nah fam,they getting too extreme
I feel so good that i started working on my own at a very young age and never had to deal with any of all the corporate crap.
If you every get down in life, just remember that you could be a grown man, working in a brownie factory while singing katy perry
i mean, i was at the IRS doing Christina Aguilera. but not even for half a year before i noped out.
I was once told I had to show up to a volunteer event because if I didn't it would look bad. I left that job shortly after.
I'm so happy that something like this would never work in germany. We would just look at our bosses and shake our heads: "Whats wrong with you? I have work to do!"
Perfect response!
When your boss points a loaded glock at your face and says "Laugh now prole. This is funny."
Perfect analogy
That, "mandatory fun at work" gives me stress sll the time.. I've felt no life after work.. Especially when its your day off..
I remember an awful "we love working here" forced activity where, for some reason, we had to list what we were passionate about. The HR woman running it got shitty at me because I couldn't come up with anything. I was suffering from severe depression.
Pro tip: Just answer something inane, like "I love the culture". Don´t you EVER say what you really think.
This reminds me of the high school "fun" stuff we were forced to do...
One of my fav series from you. Please keep trashing these people before this bs keeps spreading
Josh please start doing long live streams. Those were always so fun. Always loved them. Please consider bringing them back
When I get out of the basement I will. But too many people and dogs in this house right now.
@@JoshuaFluke1 dog too ? lol
I hate LinkedIn with a passion. That and "Zoom Happy Hour". If I'm going to day drink from my desk, I'm certainly not sharing that with coworkers.
Linkedin has become facebook+Instagram. Soon it will become onlyfans.
When I worked my first retail job, they called all of us in at the ass crack of dawn for a ‘meeting’ that turned out to be a ‘team building exercise.’ They tried to make us dance together and play games like we were a bunch of kindergartners.
Myself and half of the other employees just huddled angrily in a corner and openly glared at the managers. That never happened again, at least, I think they could tell that most of us didn’t care enough about the job to comply.
I guess you could call this the "Jonestown Business Model."
Drink the Kool-Aid, minion.
Volunteering can be fun. We made a list of local charities that we cared about. We baked cakes for hospice, repaired a garden for altzhimers day centre, painted in an at-risk youth house. If you get like-minded people to manage the process, HR will gladly give the cash to check the corporate boxes.
I hate being forced to "Have Fun" but I'll take the cash to do a bit of good in the neighbourhood.
'laying some pipe' usually means something a lot more fun. . .
At least the cubicles in the 80s and 90s had higher WALLS so you could work in private and maybe close your eyes for a minute or 2
I hate shit like this. Teachers have to do it too. I had a principal who had us do silly races and obstacle courses for team building. I hate forced fun.
I love how similar "soft servian" and "subservient" sound. The joke writes itself.
These fun events are like doing the dishes. When you feel like doing it, it's great. When you have to do it, there's nothing fun about it.
I work at a large corporation but thankfully my manager has as much disdain for "mandatory fun" as I do. He doesn't require we do them but he gets in trouble for it.
That looks like the shittiest Sims knockoff ever.
The worst is when HR people (especially former sorority girls, you know the type) decide to have some meeting that they try to make fun while everyone else is worrying about deadlines and shit they have to do, but are stuck there because Stacy and her friends wanted to throw a party for themselves.
Recently I joined a big western company and one of the first things they send me with a companywide e-mail is that we must attend a social virtual world event for 8th of march where our chief DIVERSITY officer will give us a speech... I live in a country that was part of the former USSR and I have heard alot about political officers, but now I can see one for myself, thats troubling.
i hate the forced "fun" events, no we are not friends, no we are not family, leave me alone and give me the time to go hang out with my real friends and family. i don't care about this job beyond my job requirements.
Hey Joshua, been watching you for months and just wanted to say, keep up the great work!
all companies have started doing this.
HR are given goals to make employees "motivated" to return back to office by playing garbage team games.
Those with low experience are even threatened that they will not be able to learn from superiors and again experience if they dont come to office.
being on your own is hard but after watching these corporate cringe videos I thinks it's worth of it
"Oh, how we miss our tax write-offs!"
I struggle to get through your 'Corporate Cringe' videos, man. 😂 I have to pause the video, compose myself then resume.
If that cameraman was interviewing me, he'd be yelling at me for saying, "I hate working" over and over.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Same
Great examples of corporate cringe. Everyone hates it except the HR Karens who dream up this garbage. Stop paying those people and pay the workers who do the work!
Having a good boss and a good work environment can turn the work into fun, but mandating fun is the most unfun thing there can be.
It's pointless and stupid. Everyone pretends to have fun and like people they hate to their guts.
Ah work events, trainings and fun.
We once had 3 full days of training for which we had to prepare homework. That Saturday we also had to fly over the continent for one week on-site team building and education. My flight got cancelled, I had to pack my luggage and was feeling sick but still was forced two nights in a row for a team event. On Sunday, jetlagged I spent the entire day trying to finish watching 60 hrs of videos before the on-site event as mandatory preparation. The whole week on-site being there the whole day, having evening activities and then my manager asked me how I am coming along with my daily responsibilities and act disappointed when we spent literally 18 hrs a day together.
I am so glad my current employer isn't one of those bumwipes. The owner does throw a party once a year, but it's optional and apparently genuinely fun. I wouldn't know, I'm an antisocial btch and never went.
We do have a virtual office btw, but that's only there to facilitate a casual communication channel for our majority-telecommuting office workers. Needless to say I hate it, but I have to admit it's useful.
I hope you tackle the "Great Place to Work" certifications acquired by toxic companies.
I don’t think I have laughed out loud this hard in a long time. Thanks Josh, great video!
How about a virtual reality workplace where everyone gets to do whatever he/she wants to do. We will then see how people really feel about each otherr.
when we went out on a "management-dinner" it would devolve into a competition on who could get piss drunk the fastest because nobody wanted to be there. I mean we had some fun, in the way that you laugh at your own miserie as a coping mechanism.
4:07 Is she being kept captive?? This is weird.
Holy shit. Creepy
What happened to just doing your job and then going home? This is why I own a business. 🤷🏽♀️😏😁
I love your corporate and LinkedIn videos!
Why does she sound like a bot lmao
I thought she called everyone "Subservients". I was like "Damn. She just came out raw-dog and said it."
For a moment, I literally thought she said they "brought subservience to a new platform" and I was like I didn't expect this kind of honesty.
My job does these mandatory "activities". All that happens is everyone on first and second shift stops working for an hour. Second shift has to scramble to catch up (second shift has s 1/2 the size of first shift) and the overnight crew (me) comes into madhouse. They tried to include us on third shift but we said no way. We're not going to drive up to an hour to do this exercise, drive home, and then come back 5 hours later. However, we were more than happy to do these team building activities at 3AM with our manager and HR team. This compromise got a very cool reception from management. After that they let sleeping dogs lie when it came to overnighters.
I’ll take a free vr system though.
I am thank-full for your channel. I was gaslit and made to feel horrible about myself for not participating and being onboard with this nonsense. I am not a team player? How about, you are a cult!
Wow, corporate insanity really took a dive off the crazy train since I left that world in 2017, don't miss it, even for a minute. WOrkfun = open bar with the managers locked up in a cage...
“Shut up Doug” 😂
"Would they like it?" A question my company has never asked.
How do these PR corporate & HR shills live with themselves?! Do they take a pill of something?
I'm never going back to an office - fully remote or bust.
man it's so refreshing to watch your channel. you are a real one
That "Shut up, Doug" edit was gold, lmao!
4:50 My parents got so mad because they knew my co-workers (they were the kids of parents they knew, we all knew each other from school) and my parents were so mad I didn't get one of those silly achievement papers lol.
I have to work in an "open office" and miss having my own cubicle!
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why do they seem to hire young attractive women to organize all those "fun" events. win win for those young women: easy work easy pay and potentially can shift to other roles.
The movie "Wanted" starring Angelina Jolie, Morgan Freeman and that other dude, as unrealistic as it was, nailed what cubicle farms are really like.
I'd rather be attacked by a cleaver-throwing butcher, than sit in a cubicle.
There is worse than cubicle farms, try the "open space" bullpens and you'll go clinically insane.
As a cleaver throwing butcher, I take offense to this.
It’s too bad the movie didn’t focus more on that. I feel the director had a good angle on what that is like in real life.
Sounds like as much fun as getting a speeding ticket on the way to work in the morning. LOL!!
Maybe you could do an episode on the culture of the post office. They're a federal agency, but they operate like a corporation. Their job descriptions aren't even *accurate* . I can't vouch for the white collar side of their operation, but their office-side culture is so bad that people kill themselves over it. They do some dev stuff, so it would at least be semi-relevant.