7 Things No Programmer Ever Wants to Hear

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  • What are some of the worst things about being a programmer? Let's look at 7 dreaded messages that a software engineer never wants to receive.
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  • @HiltownJoe
    @HiltownJoe Рік тому +4149

    Ahh yes, the good old "Nevermind, I fixed it" answer to their own post. One of my proudest moments as junior dev was, when I ran into a really obscure problem. No solution on the Internet to be found. So I asked SO. But I had a deadline and could not wait. So I read old patchnotes, bugreports for other software which had the same dependencies like the software I had problems with even the secret mac and cheese recepie of the developers grandmother. And after way to much time I found a solution. But that was not what I was most proud about. No, I gave a propper description of my bugfix as an answer tomy own question, and two years later I get a message in my Inbox: "I ran into the same problem, and your fix worked. Thanks, you saved me a lot of work."

    • @sondernfy
      @sondernfy Рік тому +488

      Vindicated. You are a Godsend

    • @kymion
      @kymion Рік тому +326

      Doing God's work

    • @doomnoises
      @doomnoises 11 місяців тому +134

      But did you add the recepie

    • @w0lm7b97
      @w0lm7b97 11 місяців тому +70

      Legend.

    • @TheShadowcat981
      @TheShadowcat981 11 місяців тому +36

      Huge kudos to you!

  • @flannelbeard4621
    @flannelbeard4621 Рік тому +6229

    "fast-paced exciting environment" means "manic boss micromanages everyone and knows everything while asking only you to work late and sacrifice everything".

    • @mr.rainc0at614
      @mr.rainc0at614 Рік тому +140

      This sounds so personal i love it.

    • @dhupee
      @dhupee Рік тому +165

      And gonna call you at 10 pm to fix something, ask you to leave your sick kid, comment every post in your social media, question your personal life

    • @egorm8952
      @egorm8952 Рік тому +13

      Pretty accurate))

    • @stickguy9109
      @stickguy9109 Рік тому +85

      @@dhupee Bro that's fucked up💀I hope it's just a joke

    • @MTF_Epsolon-9
      @MTF_Epsolon-9 Рік тому +8

      @@stickguy9109 same💀

  • @leonarbitrarynonsense359
    @leonarbitrarynonsense359 Рік тому +1063

    The AWS one really got me 💀 That exact thing happened to me where after following an AWS tutorial I left an EC2 instance on an received a bill months later for 2000$. Thankfully the credit card on the account had expired so I couldn’t be charged. I literally just deleted the account and pretended nothing ever happened. I’ve been ducking the AWS death squads ever since.

    • @danielrivalsyah2170
      @danielrivalsyah2170 Рік тому +11

      How? Is it only tutorial?

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen Рік тому +87

      Walk away whistling 😅

    • @Neubis2008
      @Neubis2008 11 місяців тому +54

      Yea, so don't look into gpt, text to speech things or cloud services in general, cause if your card ends up there... there is a 100 % guarantee that you will end up somehow with a bill for something you never wanted.

    • @itsme_indira
      @itsme_indira 9 місяців тому +21

      The Adventure of Bezos's Evader

    • @dansplain2393
      @dansplain2393 9 місяців тому +14

      You absolute Chad. Nice work.

  • @potsuaye69
    @potsuaye69 Рік тому +871

    I got paid like 5$ to fix someone's Discord bot's code. Apparently their word filter system had issues where some words like tHiS bypassed the system. I looked into the file and turns out they had an if statement (this was written in JS) for every possible case for every word like:
    if (word === "this") ...
    if (word === "This") ...
    and so on, for 50 words

    • @shinhook2k280
      @shinhook2k280 Рік тому +394

      Yandev code

    • @SSZaris
      @SSZaris Рік тому +49

      @@shinhook2k280 Hahaha that's what I call it too XD

    • @dionagona8205
      @dionagona8205 Рік тому +179

      @@spiritretro3571 because that would imply the person who wrote the code had a lick of knowledge about programming. I saw this shit too in a c++ class I joined and I couldn’t stop laughing at the guy when I was reviewing his code. I asked him how long he took and he said “2 hours” and I proceeded to shorten his 100 use cases to about 6-10 lines of code within 5 minutes. Basically just pick up a book and read it through or your life will be hell.

    • @gray3589
      @gray3589 Рік тому +11

      tolower???? Wtf man why???

    • @banedon8087
      @banedon8087 Рік тому +26

      As well as ToLower as others have mentioned, couldn't they have used Switch/Case/Break as well? I'm a hobby programmer and don't use that at all, but 5 seconds of googling told me how to use that in JS. Good Lord.

  • @johantaube3022
    @johantaube3022 Рік тому +1221

    "We work agile" is just another way of saying "we haven't bothered planning anything"

    • @crackwitz
      @crackwitz Рік тому +43

      Some stuff can't be planned.
      I'm not a fan of management cults either.

    • @sephypantsu
      @sephypantsu Рік тому +90

      @ghost mall most "agile" is just waterfall rebranded

    • @NehalHasnayeen
      @NehalHasnayeen Рік тому +72

      one of the core principle of agile is to be adaptable and should evolve with time and experience, where as almost all company practicing agile use a super hard rigid super unchangeable agile system/framework

    • @computernerd8157
      @computernerd8157 Рік тому +7

      Waterfall or plan driven development.

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Рік тому +17

      Sprint planning/ Kanbqn Boards, Burndown charts, User stories, product backlog refinement, how are you not planning when your Agile?

  • @StephenGillie
    @StephenGillie Рік тому +2355

    "It works on my machine" is why containers were invented.

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Рік тому +52

      So true...
      Though you can't really use them as much during development, constant compiling and all that stuff so there are also tools aiming to recreate environments without co tainers...

    • @MrAlanCristhian
      @MrAlanCristhian Рік тому +398

      "It works on my container"

    • @funkenjoyer
      @funkenjoyer Рік тому +49

      @@shapelessed if you've written the dockerfile in a right way, as in the entire setup of environment happens before any frequently changing code is copied, creating newer image is pretty quick since it can reuse all the layers from previous versions while changing only the code

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 Рік тому +154

      "This container doesn't work!"
      - The guy using Windows

    • @StephenGillie
      @StephenGillie Рік тому +24

      @@MrAlanCristhian Great, we can just put your container into prod.

  • @logon-oe6un
    @logon-oe6un Рік тому +190

    The "fixed it" gives hope. The moderator closing the thread ending it on something unhelpful, like a canned answer or another guy having the same problem is terrifying.

    • @TKollaKid
      @TKollaKid 8 місяців тому +47

      Or “Closing. Possible duplicate of…” only to find out that the two threads are not remotely similar.

    • @doggosuki
      @doggosuki 2 місяці тому

      yeah, thats my biggest pet peeve on stackoverflow. idk why they are so obsessed with "possible duplicates"... @@TKollaKid

    • @TehKarmalizer
      @TehKarmalizer 2 місяці тому +1

      Way worse than just finding an open question from 12 years ago with no answer at all. There's a known fix, but you'll never know what it was until you bash your forehead against the problem long enough.

  • @tsundokujim
    @tsundokujim 11 місяців тому +278

    I learned just how much respect software developers get early in my career. When an over-constrained, under-resourced project with constantly changing requirements wasn't progressing fast enough for the boss, he asked the immortal question: "Why is it taking so long? It's only typing." He actually offered to send the dev team on a typing course, to "speed things up."

    • @cazek445
      @cazek445 10 місяців тому +27

      This is terrible

    • @LabGecko
      @LabGecko 8 місяців тому +117

      Thanks boss! I typed my resumé and resignation in under an hour! Look, I even used the é !

    • @maalikserebryakov
      @maalikserebryakov 7 місяців тому +4

      @@LabGecko😂

    • @christianbergmann8114
      @christianbergmann8114 7 місяців тому +19

      Which is helpful to type a new job application for a better company.

    • @tamnker8465
      @tamnker8465 5 місяців тому +39

      What code looks like to non-programmers:
      /**
      * Codes the code by coding code with code.
      * By coding code it codes code that codes coders code.
      * Coders code codes code that codes coding code that coders code.
      */
      code Code code Code {
      Code code = Code;
      Code code = "code";
      code code[] code = code code[code];
      code code code() {
      code(code code = code; code < code.code; code++) {
      code[code] = code
      }
      code code;
      }
      }

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 Рік тому +2550

    I remember working an internship in an R&D department, and for 2 weeks straight our daily standups were "I'm doing the same stuff as yesterday" from all developers, until the boss finally anounced that the daily standups were pointless.

    • @Tennyson999
      @Tennyson999 Рік тому +151

      i hope my scrum master does this lol

    • @Yaxqb
      @Yaxqb Рік тому +257

      That's insanely quick response from ur boss, my boss ain't even participating in standups

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Рік тому +41

      That’s the dream

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny Рік тому +123

      Stand-ups shouldn't have non developers to start with. It's not meant as a status update.

    • @PatriceStoessel
      @PatriceStoessel Рік тому +77

      When a developer says "same as tomorrow" it's a bad smell.
      XP coach (or Scrum master) has to wake up and reject that.
      The dev has to say what he has done since yesterday ; if he is stuck, he should speak loud for help, instead of waiting for a solution to pop out magically

  • @arnoldbuskftw
    @arnoldbuskftw Рік тому +2829

    The daily stand-up somehow always happens just when you made a breakthrough and is entering flow-state

    • @DrDiabolical000
      @DrDiabolical000 Рік тому +25

      This is so true 😄

    • @Bempus
      @Bempus Рік тому +18

      Can 100% relate!

    • @zoladkow
      @zoladkow Рік тому +57

      wow, ad hoc standups... that's some hardcore agile shit right there! 😁

    • @gregclarkreasons
      @gregclarkreasons Рік тому

      LOL yep

    • @funkenjoyer
      @funkenjoyer Рік тому +36

      I just start my work with the stand up ez win

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Рік тому +924

    My very first programming job, right out of high school, involved trying to update source code that was so badly written that I'm pretty sure that it was obfiscated deliberately. (Seriously; every single variable was alphabet soup, it had almost no whitespace, and flow jumped to random places over and over again before looping back to just below the original branch.) I didn't realize that it was live production code and, when a bug in MS-DOS caused the files to be lost, I found that the hard way that the backup that the owner assured me the previous coder had made was months old and didn't work. At all. Period. In the end, he fired me for 'incompetence', threatened to sue me, and hired the previous coder back to get the program working again BECAUSE THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE COMPANY WAS BASED ON THAT PROGRAM. Shortly after that, the company vanished. It took me *YEARS* to finally realize that I hadn't destroyed the company because of my incompetence; the previous coder had. If he had made sure that the program was maintainable, had documented *ANYTHING,* and had been responsible with backups, none of it would have happened and I wouldn't have been wracked with years of false guilt and depression. #sotriggeredrightnow

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Рік тому +141

      Honestly the owner was responsible from what you say. At the end of the day, for live code not to crash the people at the top either need to understand it or they need to have hired a team of actual experts. If it's one programmer at a time in the company, the owner and the programmer need to be one and the same.

    • @KeithOlson
      @KeithOlson Рік тому +78

      @@traveller23e I hear what you are saying, but this was a *very* small company and the owner knew nothing about programming, which is probably why the original programmer was hired despite obviously--to other coders--not knowing what he was doing. In other words, the guy I replaced conned the owner into hiring him, 'faked it til he made it', and left before the barely-working and utterly unmaintainable mess he had made blew up.

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Рік тому +20

      @@KeithOlson Interesting that he came back though to fix the mess he'd made. I wonder if there was some personal tie.

    • @KeithOlson
      @KeithOlson Рік тому +42

      @@traveller23e No, the owner made it plain that he had to pay a *LOT* of money to get the guy to come back to deal with the mess.

    • @colinmarshall6634
      @colinmarshall6634 Рік тому +77

      @@KeithOlson That's on the owner for letting a shitty programmer take advantage of them. Sorry you got caught in the middle, but none of that was your fault.

  • @cheafmin1399
    @cheafmin1399 Рік тому +150

    "The most important skill of a software engineer is to be able to google things effectively."
    Very true. My dad is a software engineer and that was perhaps the most important skill he taught me growing up. Even if I resent him for the amount of times I got told "Google is your best friend" when asking for help in opening the pickle jar or changing a tire.

  • @charbelboughazale3994
    @charbelboughazale3994 Рік тому +766

    SOFTWARE ENGINEERS ARE INTROVERTS AND THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SAY NO, that hits deep while working on shitty project for my uncle🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Whynot83848
      @Whynot83848 Рік тому +15

      omg same

    • @XxTonys555xX
      @XxTonys555xX Рік тому +10

      @@Whynot83848 same same :((( only i have like 5 projects at once xd and a fulltime job. Why is it so hard to say NO to people xd

    • @makokx7063
      @makokx7063 Рік тому +77

      Lately my body has developed a defense mechanism where when anyone is excited to see me I projectile vomit on them before they can ask me to do something for them.

    • @Whynot83848
      @Whynot83848 Рік тому +38

      @@makokx7063 projectile emotion

    • @nullpointer1755
      @nullpointer1755 Рік тому +3

      Recently, i just started to tell eveyone that i don't do web/mobile development anymore because is too hard

  • @AlJavier06
    @AlJavier06 Рік тому +1210

    I've gotten so many "small change" requests. If you're a freelancer, it's good to have a contract with your client detailing what's small, and what's a nightmarish overhaul in design.

    • @JPSTUNTSDK
      @JPSTUNTSDK Рік тому +37

      Suffering through this right now :( the pain

    • @flamehiro
      @flamehiro Рік тому +90

      Just charge per hour. 1 hour min per request/ticket, that way don't bug you one little thing at a time. If it takes 5 min they still getting charged an hour

    • @videoland9268
      @videoland9268 Рік тому

      Stay away from the client who say I have lot of work for you too since they are only boning you to get a lot of shit done for free.

    • @lCebolitosl
      @lCebolitosl Рік тому +29

      @@flamehiro How exactly does that work? If the client asks how much to make a website or something and I say like $100/hour, how do they know if they're paying the dev $ 1000 bucks or $ 10.000?

    • @theye29
      @theye29 Рік тому +22

      ​@@lCebolitosl yep, that is a huge problem too because programmers also can be jackasses with this

  • @you.findbitches6054
    @you.findbitches6054 Рік тому +61

    I'm not even a software developer but the decade old forum that doesn't help at all is a mood

    • @ErevanDB
      @ErevanDB Рік тому +3

      Same. Just Tried to get EAC to work on my device, re-installed, moved files, edited a script, nothing.

    • @almicc
      @almicc Рік тому +7

      even worse is that you finally find an answer that looks like it might work, only for it to not work at all

    • @you.findbitches6054
      @you.findbitches6054 Рік тому +2

      @@almicc this is bringing up too much past trauma 😭

  • @ShiloBuff
    @ShiloBuff Рік тому +83

    The first issue mentioned is "Merge conflict". The fact that I thought that was the least of my worries just goes to show the struggles.

    • @ferd1775
      @ferd1775 Рік тому +7

      Right? Like a merge conflict ain't shit. Maybe to someone new it is daunting, not knowing what to keep or cut. Or understanding that some.functionality may have changed as a result of the merge and it's gonna take a little more time to pull together and get things working again. But that's the job..

    • @durbledurb3992
      @durbledurb3992 8 місяців тому

      @@ferd1775 If you're not pulling it's on you

  • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
    @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks Рік тому +715

    For 5 years I've been working with 20 year old code written by an artist who decided to learn to program and database, this was his first attempt at an application. The people outside my office are used to the profanity laced tirades emanating from my doorway now.

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Рік тому +63

      Do we work together lol?

    • @jazb4317
      @jazb4317 Рік тому +59

      I'm not sure if it worse when it your codebase or someone else's. Our outfit always falls victim to the "just need a one off real quick." Ok, so no plans to build it out further, fine, quick and dirty solution, there ya go. "hey, that worked so well can you just add this one more thing on it and that will be fine, but need it like today." Fine, real quick here it is. "hey, can you integrate x and y with it, that would be great." At which point you start staying, it sounds like the scope creep is ramping up here and this isn't a one off, we should probably scrap it, plan it, and build it out as a permanent, extensible solution. That will take a couple weeks, otherwise we are going to get trapped into tech debt if this thing keeps evolving. "nah, just slap some glue and duct tape so we can have it tomorrow, this is probably the last changes we will make. If we want to do more we will rebuild it."
      Ok, you want more, now we need to rebuild it right but we're into a month now. "ooo, that won't work, we need this new feature in a couple days"
      Rinse and repeat for years is how you get a legacy monstrosity even with best intentions.
      Moral of the the story is assuming your standalone helper tool will eventually morph into the recreation of Salesforce and SAP 😂

    • @patwhocares7009
      @patwhocares7009 Рік тому +38

      This project will ONLY run for 3 months ....... 9 years later. Can you add new features to it....NO. It is not only my own code that needs updating, but also all the libraries are outdated and will give conflicts and some libraries are not even updated for the last 3 years. Better to start all over then try to migrate it. But somehow there is never a budget for that. And then they pass it over to the next victim who thinks the original programmer is an idiot, not knowing this code was made in a different era.

    • @IanZWhite00
      @IanZWhite00 Рік тому +5

      @@HartleySan “this is the most profound comment I’ve ever written” is a _powerful_ opener

    • @HartleySan
      @HartleySan Рік тому +2

      @@IanZWhite00 I don't even recall writing that comment. Plus, the grammar was bad. I'm wondering if my account got hacked.

  • @revisionfour
    @revisionfour Рік тому +445

    Yo if that SQL injection on a speed camera is real, that man is a god.

    • @leonsvideos
      @leonsvideos Рік тому +14

      fr fr

    • @wlockuz4467
      @wlockuz4467 Рік тому +151

      And whoever implemented the detection system are a bunch of apes.

    • @AbhishekSharma-to6yd
      @AbhishekSharma-to6yd Рік тому +10

      Yes it was real

    • @klutch4198
      @klutch4198 Рік тому +5

      Yep, 100% real.

    • @tunnfisch7548
      @tunnfisch7548 Рік тому +43

      Just laughed my fucking ass of after seeing this. Probably the best content I've see in quite some time.

  • @ahmedakram540
    @ahmedakram540 Рік тому +92

    As a former civil engineer and now a software engineer I assure you, You ABSOLUTELY Made The Right choice.

    • @algorev8679
      @algorev8679 10 місяців тому +9

      Joke aside, I'm curious about what you like better or less now compared to your previous job; what led you to change?

    • @alextrollip7707
      @alextrollip7707 6 місяців тому +2

      Same I'm also curious

    • @qbicc6381
      @qbicc6381 6 місяців тому +2

      Yep definitely, civil engineering is all about deadlines that cannot be held and having to work with people who are totally stressed because of that. Also people who make unreasonable demands because of those deadlines or you have been forced into some contract and you have to pay money for every day of delay because of that. In addition there are a lot of people who are not competent enough so you end up fixing other peoples mistakes a lot, which causes you to be late and then you have to take all the blame for some reason.

    • @SorowerHossan-kf6qp
      @SorowerHossan-kf6qp 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for this comment akram.

    • @gogokowai
      @gogokowai 17 годин тому

      @@qbicc6381 Sounds exactly like software engineering, and I assume most other kinds of engineering for large faceless corporations

  • @mathewberry3825
    @mathewberry3825 Рік тому +18

    The worst ones are always "we need this asap" with little to no info, then when you request more information (immediately after) they ignore you for weeks or even months before replying and saying "is it ready yet", had this scenario many times.

    • @christianbarnay2499
      @christianbarnay2499 2 місяці тому

      ASAP is actually my preferred deadline because I am free to call their bullshit by interpreting it in the most literal sense. My immediate answer is: "As soon as possible, okay. I am fully booked for the foreseeable future. Best shot is in 2 months. But no guarantee. And of course it will get delayed if an emergency comes in the meantime. If you want it earlier, give me an actual date and I'll see 1. if it's feasible and 2. what I will have to postpone to make room for it."
      And feel free to add unreasonable extra delay based on the lack of information to make it clear that by failing to give you all the info required they are slowing your work and penalizing themselves.
      You can't have your bosses and clients respect your precious time if you disrespect it yourself by accepting all kinds of abusive requests.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Рік тому +214

    This is why they invented product managers. A good manager protects the development team from all the crap from outside requirements.

    • @U20E0
      @U20E0 Рік тому +55

      a bad manager amplifies it

    • @Rai2M
      @Rai2M Рік тому +24

      @@U20E0 Damn. You guys literally reiterated what i said a long time ago ))
      "A good product manager solves the problems, a bad one generates them" ))

    • @LabGecko
      @LabGecko 8 місяців тому +4

      And the good are so rare

    • @user-fy6uk7en3l
      @user-fy6uk7en3l 2 місяці тому +1

      I've experienced both the good and bad ones, and I have a genuinely deep appreciation for good product managers.

    • @traewatkins931
      @traewatkins931 2 місяці тому

      Wait good PMs exist?

  • @erik-sandberg
    @erik-sandberg Рік тому +757

    The migrating a legacy codebase where the previous developer died of old age actually made me laugh out loud. This is a fantastic video, well done Jeff!

    • @TheGreySage0
      @TheGreySage0 Рік тому +18

      If you add mysteriously it explains death in service benefit

    • @rushyscoper1651
      @rushyscoper1651 Рік тому +5

      i had even the same problem, was intern was told to learned angular 1 for month and then was ask to migrate old site to angular 6 with short deadline.
      like bro i don't even know angular 2 yet.

    • @JasonLaneZardoz
      @JasonLaneZardoz Рік тому +1

      @@rushyscoper1651 Code is code, it's all pretty much the same. Is it not?

    • @lolololo-cx4dp
      @lolololo-cx4dp Рік тому +2

      ​@@JasonLaneZardoz lol migrating codebase is a headache bro

    • @JasonLaneZardoz
      @JasonLaneZardoz Рік тому

      @@lolololo-cx4dp Sometimes, especially if you incur loads of tech debt.

  • @izacaqsha3480
    @izacaqsha3480 Рік тому +64

    As someone who graduated as a civil engineer but decided to became a programmer, what you said is haunting me

    • @sata1938
      @sata1938 Рік тому +8

      Yeah if he wants to work outside then go do construction management. Engineers stay inside.

  • @SSZaris
    @SSZaris Рік тому +48

    So in scaffolding the supervisors and branch manager are ALWAYS guys who have done scaffolding. This way not only do they know the actual job being done but they have the respect of the guys doing the hard work. I rarely see this in any other profession. Seems like the programming crowd could do with a bit of this.

  • @MuhammadAli-vy2oz
    @MuhammadAli-vy2oz Рік тому +185

    This is so true. Especially the one with clients saying it's an easy fix. "I will give you 10 bucks for it" . Why waste 10 bucks on a 2 minute job. Go ahead, you'll figure it out yourself. 😂

    • @certaindeath7776
      @certaindeath7776 Рік тому +11

      thats why in agile you let the product owner make a change request ticket, then u analyze the task (and charge for the analyzis) together with the other requests, where you then say this ticket will take estimated 20 hours to implement, and let the PO decide if he still needs this small change.

  • @andrewgodby5712
    @andrewgodby5712 Рік тому +331

    My personal favorite is from the marketing 'expert' .. Just need one small change lol. Or, when non-tech people have enough leverage at a company to drive technical based decisions. Thanks for the video Fireship!

    • @destroreact5706
      @destroreact5706 Рік тому +33

      "when non-tech people have enough leverage at a company to drive technical based decisions"
      I hate this one specially. The non-tech guy makes some dumb decision that you know will cause major issues later down the line, but no one cares because you will be the one to fix it later on anyway...

  • @Irishpierre
    @Irishpierre Рік тому +21

    I can tell youre a software engineer since your videos are all short, quick, and to the point. Thank you

  • @RealCadde
    @RealCadde Рік тому +18

    The last one is so relatable... I've been programming as a hobby (phew) for over 20 years and i can feel the frustration of finding another person with the same random obscure problem only to have them later just say "Solved" without even hinting at how they solved it anywhere.
    That should really come with a one way ticket to Guantanamo...
    Along those same lines though, when you help someone with a problem they've been having going through all the effort of detailing what went wrong and how they can fix it...
    Only for that person to literally become a ghost and never be seen or heard from again.

  • @wingflanagan
    @wingflanagan Рік тому +216

    So very, very accurate. No one else in my family or circle of friends (OK, point of friend) does this, so I can't even vent to them without hearing how easy my job must be because all I have to do is sit and type all day.

    • @Entropy67
      @Entropy67 Рік тому +31

      thats annoying, how about you try to teach some of your friends how to code so that they have a little more respect lol
      if you were a physicist and you sat around writing papers all day, I doubt they would devalue your work, seems like a SE thing to me

    • @Viqtor
      @Viqtor Рік тому +53

      Doctors just sit around and pump you with meds till they work. You can oversimplify any job lol

    • @wingflanagan
      @wingflanagan Рік тому +28

      @@Viqtor Oh yeah. I exaggerated for comic effect, but only a little. My daughter actually said "I feel like your job really isn't that hard", mustering all the authority of a couple of beginner coding tutorials under her belt. Sigh. :-)

    • @kylekeenan3485
      @kylekeenan3485 Рік тому +30

      Start talking to them about space and time complexity of the Algorithm you are working on and briefly explain why it uses linear over Quadratic time and how it's represented using Big'O notation. Then watch there brains fizz up and watch the respect for the job you do increase. 😁

    • @Andreas-ov2fv
      @Andreas-ov2fv Рік тому +11

      Upvote for "point of friend", hah

  • @zxGHOSTr
    @zxGHOSTr Рік тому +42

    The "the previous developer died of old age happened to me". His last git commits even formed a skull before he died. At first I didn't understand his code, but now I don't understand his code and also hate it.

  • @sotirioschortogiannos4363
    @sotirioschortogiannos4363 Рік тому +15

    I am about to finish bootcamp which i am sure many may laugh at but I am doing my best. First thing I am going to do before I start any of my first tasks is make a copy of my starting point. Thanks for the advice everyone. Awesome channel Fireship!! Edit and ensure servers are protected

  • @-Name-here-
    @-Name-here- Рік тому +7

    I felt some of these all too well.
    The non technical person asking for an “easy and small” change, and finding a 4 year old stack overflow post with your problem and either no solution or just them saying “fixed it!”

  • @thelonelyadventurer
    @thelonelyadventurer Рік тому +104

    I totally agree... we had like very close deadline for a critical workflow and this customer stucked us in a 2H meeting because they wanted me to move out damn confetti images from a text because it covered a letter only to discover the only reason why it was so, was because they manually edited their CSS with the textbox of the portal manager breaking the effing flexbox container

  • @CraigyDizzle
    @CraigyDizzle Рік тому +28

    Google tried to invoice me for $300 out of nowhere once and I was like "I tried my best to disable the service and thought it was disabled so how would I know it wasn't??" and luckily they cancelled the invoice 👀

  • @TaHrPa
    @TaHrPa Рік тому +104

    I got a hearty laugh once when the cleaning lady said "maybe I should get into computers, all you do is sit on the computer all day and play."
    My response was "Go ahead, I'll help you study."

    • @arthurwintersight7868
      @arthurwintersight7868 Рік тому +37

      I tell people it's like writing a ten page college essay - in mathematics - and a single mistake in your ten page math essay causes the entire thing to not work.
      "Can you reliably produce ten page math essays, without so much as a single mistake? No? Then you understand my pain. Now leave my office, MORTAL!"

    • @RedMoon814
      @RedMoon814 Рік тому +11

      ​@@arthurwintersight7868 "ten page college essay in mathematics" is the best analogy I have ever heard for coding 😂
      Will be using it from now on

    • @BritishTrainspotting
      @BritishTrainspotting 7 місяців тому +1

      @@arthurwintersight7868As someone who's currently doing an A-Level in software development... yeah that analogy is pretty accurate.

  • @VM4RT1NV
    @VM4RT1NV 4 місяці тому

    love this chanel, the tone, passing and the jokes! makes me feel less alone in the world. Thanks bro

  • @rns2430
    @rns2430 Рік тому +10

    Lol that guy took sql injection to a whole new level 2:48

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 Рік тому +57

    Yeah, the part about legacy codebase without documentations/explanations - that scares me, so much.

  • @Omerko
    @Omerko Рік тому +2

    This was probably the most relatable video... Even EC2 AWS part was the same for me... Just amazing. Excellent job @fireship

  • @muhammaduzair2863
    @muhammaduzair2863 10 місяців тому +5

    Just started my journey in Software engineering field and well yeah everything you said is 1000% true. SE is a very anxiety inducing field.Half of the time im doubting myself that im not good enough for anything 😔. All i know is PAIN 😭

  • @jugzster
    @jugzster Рік тому +6

    It’s truly impressive and uncanny how updated your memes are, makes your content even more entertaining 🙌🏻

  • @concernedviewer6909
    @concernedviewer6909 Рік тому +20

    Was having a crappy day and you just turned it around with this video. Thank you for the laughs, they were priceless

  • @thespelsheepington6664
    @thespelsheepington6664 Рік тому +26

    The most common nightmare error I've run into with SQL is truncation errors/numeric overflow. Ofc it can't tell me the column, so I gotta just hunt for it and run the query 20 times

    • @aeureus
      @aeureus Рік тому +4

      Fix it,
      Two other things break.

    • @the_great_9880
      @the_great_9880 Рік тому +1

      @@aeureus daily life of a programmer.

    • @aeureus
      @aeureus Рік тому +1

      @@the_great_9880 *cries in c#*

    • @the_great_9880
      @the_great_9880 Рік тому

      @@aeureus i use c# too, love it.

    • @panlis6243
      @panlis6243 Рік тому +3

      Ah yes, the ultimate debugging technique. Change random stuff and re-run it until it works

  • @NTNscrub
    @NTNscrub Рік тому +2

    Oh god, that last one is probably the scariest. The error you have to fix either has a really simple but hidden solution or it’s a long grind that’ll take you days on end.

  • @nissougotic
    @nissougotic Рік тому +66

    This really hits hard as I'm a civil engineer transitioning into tech 😂

    • @freezone7930
      @freezone7930 Рік тому +10

      Lmao why

    • @eeew2691
      @eeew2691 Рік тому +15

      @@freezone7930Do you have any idea how less civil engineers are paid for all the work they have to do in field?

    • @marktimothyadvento6305
      @marktimothyadvento6305 Рік тому +1

      I'm a civil engineer that transitioned into tech. 🤣

    • @helmetboyHD
      @helmetboyHD 11 місяців тому

      @@marktimothyadvento6305 which tech job specifically if i may ask? I'm 18 and aspiring to become a software engineer/dev but unsure if it's the right career, this video scared me, but seeing all the comments saying they preferred tech over civil engineering is reassuring.

    • @marktimothyadvento6305
      @marktimothyadvento6305 11 місяців тому

      ​@@helmetboyHD I'm a full stack engineer currently.
      I reached the pinacle of civil engineering construction management career as Sr. Project Manager and President before transitioning. The interviews are an uphill battle since they don't want to take chance on someone that reached something so high as a jr. software engineer. No regrets here. I am about to reach six months in my current job and loving every second of it.

  • @WolfPhoenix0
    @WolfPhoenix0 Рік тому +139

    Some of these truly speak to my soul as a software engineer (especially the "upgrading legacy app" and "one small change" scenarios)
    I've also encountered a variation of the last one where the issue I'm facing does have a Stack Overflow post but that post has NO answers. I can't tell you how many times I've run into that one. 😂

    • @DerMichael
      @DerMichael Рік тому +11

      And it's been online for years. And then you ask yourself: Are you going to solve it even though no one else ever solved it, or are you going to do it completely differently, probably like the other person did?

    • @atemoc
      @atemoc Рік тому +1

      @@DerMichael The answer is more often than not the latter.

    • @danmakufan
      @danmakufan Рік тому +5

      i do forge modding for 1.8, and sometimes some guy has the exact same problem i have, but they closed it because it's too old. it's truly a pita to go off like basically only the javadocs but you find a way ig

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e Рік тому

      my poor scrum master recently resorted to writing a SO post, and no replies yet :(

    • @sa1t938
      @sa1t938 Рік тому

      Or when the result is on some chinese fourm, you just gotta read the code snippets or translate the thing if you still don't understand lol

  • @NFSHeld
    @NFSHeld Рік тому +16

    Working with an external company that does part of the programming for your company. And you notice they ship worse code than you would, with bugs and no proper documentation. Yet every time they ship some new version of their junk code you need to review it, point out all the mistakes in an e-mail that gets CC'd to 5 non-developer managers who then immediately call you to ask what the implications of those bugs are and whether or not the shipping date of next week will still hold even though it's obviously not your choice to make how long the external company takes to fix the mess they delivered.

    • @christoffer1125
      @christoffer1125 Рік тому

      This is so relatable it’s crazy. Shipping worse code AND they’re more expensive

  • @MagicOfDark
    @MagicOfDark Рік тому +74

    Always make sure privileges for databases are set to only what you'll need, and always backup everything.
    My worse experience is building something for 40+ hours then when it's done, realizing there was a much better way of doing it.

    • @nikolaysitnikov796
      @nikolaysitnikov796 Рік тому +20

      My worst experience (so far) was spending several hours going over code to find why it was hanging, figuring out that it was a really stupid mistake, and then realizing that the whole part of the code was useless and there was a much better way of doing it already in a library that I had installed.

    • @rwuttke
      @rwuttke Рік тому +2

      And sanitize the damn input.

  • @BlueJDev
    @BlueJDev Рік тому +8

    every scentence in this video was brilliant and spot on! I have genuinely encountered nearly every scenario posed here... thanks for the chuckle

  • @Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too
    @Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too Рік тому +18

    You drove me back to the nineties when I decided to make my own software company where I since have had full control.
    You're spot on in the description of the everyday life of a programmer. It is really that frustrating. You are really good at painting the picture.

  • @Nick-wz6tz
    @Nick-wz6tz 11 місяців тому

    Thanks, I've experienced tons of discomfort while watching this video as a developer. 100% accurate, thumbs up

  • @computercrowd1064
    @computercrowd1064 11 місяців тому +4

    4:32 That's what git is for.

  • @harshitbansal8539
    @harshitbansal8539 Рік тому +42

    "Chess speaks for itself" might be the best edit ever in this channels history 🤣

    • @apas
      @apas Рік тому

      This video edit speaks for itself

  • @user-ov1nn2sr4s
    @user-ov1nn2sr4s Рік тому +14

    I remember supporting codebase with custom framework based on backbone.js. It sucked so bad, but it's a valuable experience that gave me deeper understanding of how frameworks work inside

  • @entitythatyounevermet
    @entitythatyounevermet Рік тому

    Hey mate, love the contents. I can relate most of them to my day to day work... lol :D

  • @MayaUndefined
    @MayaUndefined 7 місяців тому +1

    1993: "it works on my machine"
    2023: "it works in my container"

  • @haiguyzimnew
    @haiguyzimnew Рік тому +23

    @3:09 This happened to me. I had to upgrade AngularJS from v1 to Angular v11. The last guy who wrote everything and would've been a real help left the company to join a monastic order.

    • @MaryamMaqdisi
      @MaryamMaqdisi Рік тому +5

      I’d probably go to a monastic order too if I was expected to migrate something like that lol. My condolences

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny Рік тому +3

      Lol, that's not an upgrade but a rewrite in a new Framework

  • @aaronyue9811
    @aaronyue9811 Рік тому +15

    The amount of pain experienced throughout this video cannot be quantified

  • @monkey_gamer_001
    @monkey_gamer_001 4 місяці тому

    i don't know where fireship gets his clips and memes from, but they are top quality!!

  • @Eventlesstew
    @Eventlesstew 8 місяців тому +6

    4:15 For situations like this, even if it takes extra time, I feel like it's worth adding a setting that allows you to set the navbar to the top or the bottom through the flick of a switch. If done that way, you don't have to waste time changing it back if your manager changes their mind and as an extra, you could even let the user decide where they want the navbar.

    • @harleyspeedthrust4013
      @harleyspeedthrust4013 7 місяців тому +6

      just revert ur master branch in vcs and rebuild, and bill the client for the hours wasted putting the navbar on the side. ez

  • @NithinJune
    @NithinJune Рік тому +8

    2:05 😆😂 I’ve literally done exactly that. One day i woke up to a google cloud platform alert that my payment declined. I removed my card, replaced it with an empty visa gift card, deleted that account and pretended that never happened.

  • @botcontador3286
    @botcontador3286 Рік тому +5

    This guy, some how, have figured out my life story down to the detail and made a video about it. You are a wizard my friend.

  • @davetelekom443
    @davetelekom443 Рік тому

    Funny intro, I actually have thinking many times why I was not a civil, electric or electronic engineer, and I am not a real programmer, just working in data analytics and the IT guy in projects

  • @shashishekhar----
    @shashishekhar---- Рік тому

    Fireship is back, I was rolling over laughing lol , much appreciated.👍

  • @shootnado
    @shootnado Рік тому +68

    This is so accurate in a terrifying way.

  • @hypenage2415
    @hypenage2415 Рік тому +10

    The aws meme about leaving an ec2 instance on killed me 😂 I did that last month

    • @dock1804
      @dock1804 Рік тому +2

      Hahaha yeah, I also left some service running (forgot which one, it was 2 years ago). Plan was to use it for 3 hours for the price of 3$/h, but remembered 15 days later 😂. After some crying in the messages, they forgave it all. Learned the hard way how important it is to set billing alerts.

  • @ahmetsalihsavas7745
    @ahmetsalihsavas7745 Рік тому +20

    My worst fate in a game Remake I was doing in LUA script was that the script didn't work properly, But neither did it give any errors.
    I checked again and again, Even asked it in Stack Overflow just to get down voted to hell.
    God, I have never fixed bug, And don't think will work on that game anymore because that one thing was very crucial to the game.

    • @rc8s
      @rc8s Рік тому +1

      Lua is not an acronym

    • @tqrules01
      @tqrules01 Рік тому

      You where working on an open Tibia Server by any chance?

    • @Felix-dh9tl
      @Felix-dh9tl Рік тому +2

      I’ve experienced a similar problem when I was coding javascript and checked the console on chrome, didn’t give any errors, but firefox dev edition showed the issue and helped me a lot

  • @clarke6808
    @clarke6808 3 місяці тому

    Bro. Your content is gold. So many referneces to culture from now and way back and funny. I love it really, its like satire coding! . New Customer here. Cheers.

  • @mjohnson2807
    @mjohnson2807 Рік тому +24

    Top notch video every time, you are a blessing to the community good sir!

  • @hardikpatelhdhe
    @hardikpatelhdhe Рік тому +5

    *Build Failed*
    Software Engineer: 🥲
    Civil Engineer: ☠️

  • @jim5148
    @jim5148 Рік тому

    Those are hilarious! And sad. I worked in a different field, but received similarly outrageous change requests, only to have them cancelled after you've done them.

  • @tylerpetersen6226
    @tylerpetersen6226 Рік тому +2

    Me being a test lead on a project that has an accessibility component for ADA compliance for a new webpage we are developing. It is always a nightmare having to get the UI/UX developer, product owner and tech lead in the same call and going through the laundry list of violations I have found. Then having to work on redesigning the page based on those needs such as buttons being hidden when not scrolled over and outside the tab indexing to seemingly simple color contrast redesigns it is always a headache for me and the developers to fix all these "small changes" that need to go through the approval process.

  • @SamarthPusalkar
    @SamarthPusalkar Рік тому +11

    I am not even full time software developer yet, still I have gone through literally every thing in this in my internships

  • @bogdanstanciu701
    @bogdanstanciu701 Рік тому +21

    I love this channel, it truly speaks my mind since I can't do it myself - so instead I share this video. :)

    • @miso1995srb
      @miso1995srb Рік тому +1

      I program for 8 years and never had a similar problem, you can always avoid/solve them

  • @AwesomeDwarves
    @AwesomeDwarves 5 місяців тому

    That last one got me good, it's not infrequent that I'll get sucked into something and miss my stand-up or another meeting. I had to start adding 1 minute reminder notifications to all of my meetings since 10 minutes was just enough to let me completely forget about a meeting by the time it was supposed to happen

  • @eduardoprocopiogomez
    @eduardoprocopiogomez Рік тому +4

    That one from Angular V1 to v14 means a lot to me

  • @dcknature
    @dcknature Рік тому +7

    Thumbs up for including the destroyed bridge joke 🤣. Thank you 👍!

    • @AndriiStaryk
      @AndriiStaryk Рік тому

      Yea it was funny, and tbh I wasn’t even expecting this picture in this video😂

  • @doskelfsy
    @doskelfsy Рік тому +6

    This provided me another level of anxiety 🥶🥶 Thnx Jeff!

  • @shapelessed
    @shapelessed 3 місяці тому +1

    A software engineer's worst nightmare is reference errors, merge conflicts and...
    ...and the family's printer.

  • @mateusmattossabarreto2852
    @mateusmattossabarreto2852 7 місяців тому +2

    It's 10pm now and I've beem trying to solve a "small change" a client asked for since 9am and the worst part is that I charged less than half of what the project is actually worth because after so many months searching for a job I finally found one and I'm super scare to lose it

    • @user-gi7vi9gm4t
      @user-gi7vi9gm4t 3 місяці тому

      how long did it take you ( or are you still working on it)

  • @dreamisover9813
    @dreamisover9813 Рік тому +3

    We had a team in uni that caused quite a big payment for I think wither aws or some MS Power BI, can't remember which. But that was quite the shock for many there, they did it for their project

  • @kennikollemorten4184
    @kennikollemorten4184 Рік тому +3

    This is the funniest coding video I ever saw. 😂🤣😂 really good job 😜

  • @John_Fx
    @John_Fx Рік тому +18

    Cloud computing inventors were brilliant when they came up with a business plan where you could oops your way into a bill that would make the National Debt blush,.

  • @htmoh8115
    @htmoh8115 Рік тому +2

    As a newbie. The thought of being overworked, an taken advantage of. Is really putting me off. No wonder so many people are quitting their high paying jobs.

  • @ivandashkevich3398
    @ivandashkevich3398 Рік тому +14

    "I will go to school to become a civil engineer so I could work outside building stuff everyone admires like bridges and skyscrapers"
    Masters diploma in Bridge and tunnel construction is here
    Architectural bridges are fun to design and build, sure. But they are as rare as a beautiful, well designed, documented and tested codebase. Most of the time you work on the projects that you cannot see and you can't even know that you are driving over a bridge, since it looks to you just a continuous closed highway
    Switched to frontend development for 5 years now, never been happier
    The beauty of abstractions, design solutions that just "clicks" and people's passion about technology excites me much more

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Рік тому +2

      Happy to see this comment. As someone who is considering a career in software development, videos like these have been making me wonder if it's a bad move. Nice to know that it's not complete doom and gloom for some people.

    • @shrayesraman5192
      @shrayesraman5192 Рік тому +1

      @@kickheavy8982 I'm tryna become a doctor and the same things happens. Everyone says to become a software engineer haha

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Рік тому

      @@shrayesraman5192 I can relate for sure man

    • @lamywater
      @lamywater Рік тому +2

      @@kickheavy8982 Every job has it's problems, certainly. I've enjoyed switching career to software development, but even if you end up not enjoying it that much, at least you'll still be getting a decent paycheck.

    • @kickheavy8982
      @kickheavy8982 Рік тому

      @@lamywater yeah you're right. I'm always confused when people say "don't get into it just for the money." when money is the reason why most people work most jobs.

  • @Mateking92
    @Mateking92 Рік тому +5

    3:55 Bold of you to assume I have friends

  • @LupoTosk96
    @LupoTosk96 Рік тому +4

    "how does changing the button take so long?"
    Because the clients system doesn't let me even write any code, their backend is made of framesets and their documentation was made even before that time...

  • @TheRealHoernchen
    @TheRealHoernchen Рік тому

    You got me with the discord sound lol i just checked my dc and after finding no new messages i just realized what happen

  • @WARGON123
    @WARGON123 Рік тому +6

    0:22 best easter egg

  • @bmmartin1684
    @bmmartin1684 Рік тому +26

    My superior changes the spec daily. "Martin, I want you to add this to the class and make sure the APIs do this." Two days later, "You know what, never mind. I don't know what I was thinking". He does not know how refactoring Java code is a nightmare.

    • @kebien6020
      @kebien6020 Рік тому +16

      That's not a spec change. That's micromanagement. The spec shouldn't have any opinion on things like classes

    • @PatriceStoessel
      @PatriceStoessel Рік тому +1

      @@kebien6020 But the spec has to specify interfaces of the system

  • @guse7688
    @guse7688 5 місяців тому

    I'm planning on working in software development, so this is great to hear 👍

  • @blackhole724
    @blackhole724 Рік тому

    oh, just hearing these things are so painful in my heart
    people who we work with always seem so dumb that they never get how hard some of their requests are
    I literally cry out loud if someone says that he/she understands and feels sorry for these

  • @GGdevelopment
    @GGdevelopment Рік тому +3

    Your content never ceases to amuse me 😂

  • @KoyFoster
    @KoyFoster Рік тому +17

    I like sharing your vids with the team, but this one might hit too close to home.

  • @aleksikoda983
    @aleksikoda983 Рік тому

    You got one more like at ''Tell Harambe to get away from that kid''.
    Thanks for the great channel 🔥🚢

  • @shrijanmaram7939
    @shrijanmaram7939 Рік тому

    I absolutely dreaded this video, great work!

  • @madsserritslev8496
    @madsserritslev8496 Рік тому +13

    Great, I'm studying to be a web-developer and the end goal is Software engineer, thanks for the pep-talk 👍 looking forward to the frustrations

    • @weignerg
      @weignerg Рік тому +4

      Just go strait for dev ops, it's the hat they will want you to wear while doing any other job they asked you to do.

  • @Ardeact
    @Ardeact Рік тому +6

    I love installing dependencies over and over again, different environments or no environment manager so packages overlap, and I end up with no disk space or conflictions

  • @theevilapple_
    @theevilapple_ Рік тому

    i'm currently trying to complete an it-specified high school and you just took all my motivation at the start of the video
    thanks you

  • @Oburi7
    @Oburi7 12 днів тому +1

    the "Nevermind, I fixed it" makes me cry every time