Things have been pretty stable lately, BUT THATS NO FUN IS IT!! I want to grow into an amorphous mass and smother the entirety of UA-cam, so please, like, share, comment, subscribe, click the bell icon and everything else that you can to get the word of sir sic out there CHEERS!
Thanks for these wonderful crusades against ridiculous theist arguments. They really should have invested in some chain mail - err, I mean critical thinking classes - because at least this way you'd get to use your sword ... a little bit. 😆
The watchmaker has always been "I found a pocket watch on a beach, and I can tell it was designed as opposed to the sand around it, which was not designed, except that it was designed, because that's the point of the argument, but something about the watch stood out from the sand as being designed, so I can tell what can and can't be designed, and that sense tells me the sand wasn't designed. So, you know, checkmate, atheists!"
That’s the problem with the “argument from design.” Within the theistic worldview, literally EVERYTHING is designed (either by living agents or a divine agent). Therefore, having ZERO non-designed things with which to contrast the supposedly designed things, there is absolutely no way to “recognize design.” They just play with their intuitions and call it evidence.
The sand was itself designed by millions of water banging into stone eroding it and grounding it into the tiny crystals upon which the watch was found. No god needed. -1 Theists +1 science and athiest
He’s anti god of the gaps but his entire argument is god of the gaps. Abiogenesis isn’t magic. Rib women and dirt men, created by a magical Jewish sky zombie, is the literal definition of magic.
@@vortex_1336 Considering he's all power AND all present, he was around when Adam was made and around when Jesus revived at the same time, otherwise this quad-omni god is a bit weak.
I find that there are a lot less questions about rib women if you don't write about it in a book that's read by everyone. Not one video about whether or not I'm doing magic.
@@DavidRichardson153Jury duty? ITYM a court date. I mean, even Jethro Beaudine graduated sixth grade, and he can definitely cipher better than El Pee Pee.
@@bt5029 I thought 4th at first too, but 4th graders generally haven't learned that all you have to do is sprinkle in a few big words, and people will think you're really smart. This guy doesn't strike me as a 4th grader that's ahead of his class.
I love how his first few arguments are all, "I'm not stupid! Stop calling me stupid!" This is not the kind of guy you think is going to debunk scientific theories.
We don’t “learn about science” we USE science to learn about reality. Science isn’t a “thing” it’s a methodology - a methodology that religious people clearly don’t understand. If they did, they would understand why the inability of the scientific method to investigate their god-claims reflects so poorly on their conclusion that god is real.
I think the religious claims, the idea that we could have a soul, a creator and an afterlife are a failed hypothesis, science came to the point where the observations that gave us that idea are explained by other processes that don't qualify as miracles...
@@kellydalstok8900 I'm talking about the medieval times, there's also this thing called phlogiston that was supposed to make things flammable, now we understand what chemical reactions are, there's laws of conservation of mass, no phlogiston...
I always find it funny when you point out all the fallacies they are using and they get upset by it. I recently called a guy out by saying "Of course you are upset about it, if I take away all your fallacies then you have nothing left. It's all you have"
@@Jcs57look at it with eyes? Eyes that are a very good example of evolution. Evolution that had created new ways to "look at the world". Evolution that was very necessary for survival as a species? And that is nowadays denied by said Bible readers? It is almost as if these Bible readers are against the God that made this all possible...
@@erikblaas5826don’t say eyes to these nutjobs!!! They will go all watchmaker so fast and say “oh eyes are so complex! Someone had to design them!” Ignoring how many people wear glasses, develop glaucoma, and the like…
Not here to mock you, but you haven´t seen too many apologists in your lifetime yet! In my experience, its the hallmark of apologists to not understand what they are talking about, even less what their opposition is talking about.
He's especial peshtal, I don't often need to stop doing what I'm doing just to replay the video, there's so much wrong everything in it, its incredible!
Have you read about the Blood Falls in Antarctica? If I remember correctly, the water is full of little spheres of iron and when it is exposed to the oxygen in the atmosphere it rusts and makes the water look red. These small spheres are just one example of natural order taking on a seemingly unnatural form. There are many self organising chemicals and they don't need a designer to look designed. There are probably a few small steps from self organising to self replicating, we just have not found them yet. It is my hope we do find them in my lifetime.
Bro life is insanely more complex than fire lol this is a stupid analogy. I think it still happened but to say it's like fire starting is kind of making the creationist point
Oh good lord, “Theists don’t believe in magic, we believe”: literally describes magic. Added to that the assertion that science is ignoring abiogenesis and you have to wonder if he was home schooled by Kent Hovind
You can tell yourself what you believe is rational. You can tell yourself it's the irrational people who don't believe. You can look into a camera and repeat it to yourself over and over. That still won't make it true.
Well, to be fair, it is also fractal ignorance and fractal stupid. Give them credit -- being that wrong on that many levels at maximum consistency takes an awful lot of hard work. Not much thinking but really hard work.
@@Kualinar Well, "apologia" technically means a defence of one's opinions or conduct - you can check that. It becomes an excuse when it's devoid of rational content!
Intelligent designer: I can tell a watch on a beach as designed, because unlike the sand, it has structure and function! Skeptic: So, the beach and sand weren't designed, they're totally natural without an intentional maker? Intelligent designer: Wait one Jesus-loving minute, that's not what i meant...!
I have four stunningly good reasons why I steal Sir Sics whiskey. 1. It's cheaper than buying my own 2. I like the whiskeys 3. Sir Sic can't stop me 4. Because I can and will
@@zapveresepa1, "Other than the people you steal Whiskey from, where is it from?" "Why is there whiskey, and not nothing?" ... Those are the two I can think of off hand... what are your questions?
18:00 the whole argument falls apart when you remember that God interacted with the universe all the freaking time in the bible. A flood here, a plauge there, some genecides elsewhere and a bit of resurrection from time to time. So it's safe to assume it's the latter.
I believe in the God of Evolution, that is the real God to Worship... But this one is denied existence by the Bible readers who wants us to believe everything that is in existence was there the moment it was created by "their" God.... So objects created today are proof that they were not created a long time ago by the God they claim to have created everything... 😮 Yes, it costed me some braincells to formulate this sentence, and I am not even shure I got it right. 😢
Software guy here, we all know this but just in case, literally everything that comes out of Joe Bob's fucking mouth about computer science and software is misguided at best and deliberately wrong at worst.
Yep. I’m so old that I immediately thought of IBM punch cards. You can literally read the code in the arrangement of holes with your naked eyes. For that matter, he doesn’t know about side channel attacks. We can now decode nerve signals to read what information is passing along them. Information from the brain being written on paper exists in the changing charge states of neurons between the brain and hand. Information can not exist without a physical substrate. Reference the ongoing arguments about information loss in black hole event horizons.
I've seen the punch cards (both types), but the oldest medium I've used is the 8" floppy cards (my brothers and I called them "floopy cards", cause we were more used to the 3 1/4" floppy cards). Hope you don't feel as old now.
It is because they operate under a definition of magic that requires it to be generated or provided by nefarious forces, while miracles are from the all-good God. So when someone tells them miracles sound like magic it autoconverts in their head to "You are saying God = Satan"
Well they aren't the same. Magic tends to be described in ways that suggest rules and properties. You burn the incense and chant the magic words and draw the symbol and this manipulates/interacts with spirits or forces or mana or what have you to cause a desired effect. Wave the magic wand and say Wingardium Leviosa! and that makes a specific thing happen. Anyone who believes in magic thinks it is a real thing that follows rules, just like any other thing. Even astrology follows this logic. This planet is in this part of the sky, so X is going to happen. Magic is just old fashioned pseudoscience. Miracles, on the other hand, are defined by being impossible, unpredictable, incompreehensible, etc. Magic is the use/manipulation of natural processes (that don't really exist), miracles are impossible nonsensical things that are pulled from the ass of a capricious deity.
"Computer code has no mass". Oh yes it does. The mass-energy-information equivalence principle states that information is a form of matter, is physical, and can be identified by a specific mass per bit while it stores information. It is shown that the mass of a bit of information at room temperature (300 K) is 3.19 × 10 − 38 Kg. (Vopson M.M. The mass-energy-information equivalence principle. AIP Adv. 2019;9:095206. doi: 10.1063/1.5123794.)
This "information isn't real" argument sounds like something someone who *really* needs to have their computer investigated by law enforcement would say.
It's a creationist dogwhistle. They like to pretend "information" is a substance in-and-of itself (so they can pretend it can't have arisen spontaneously, and that mutations altering DNA can "destroy" information).
I'm so glad that I've never been infected with the need to think that I'm constantly being watched and judged by an unblinking dictator that nobody can see.
Sounds like this guy watched YT apologists. Didn't really understand what they said. Tried to repeat what he heard and failed. But thought it sounded super smart. Most of the time when he made what I assume was a point in his own mind, I was left thinking: "Wut??"
@@UpperDarbyDetailing fair point, might explain why he’s fixing it? It attempted to throw itself from a moving car in order to escape the abuse and extreme misuse of its air frying abilities. What a monster.
Even if one accepts his arguments, they are still a long way from demonstrating the existence of his particular God. His particular God is so good at designing, he couldn't get the Earth to orbit the Sun for an even number of days, we have to insert an extra day every leap year.
It's even worse for Christianity. They don't just have to demonstrate their god, they have to demonstrate Jesus. I am an observant Jew and an atheist (yes that's a thing) so even if they could convince me that G*d (the 4 letter one in the bible) exists, I wouldn't be a Christian. I would be a theist Jew. They would have to convince me that Jesus existed and that he was the messiah and a god man. I notice Christians argue for a generic god and for the resurrection. But I don't often see them argue for their god specifically.
Oh wait! I know how this game goes! Let me try it! `Some Christians say `atheists are stupid,` therefore all of my arguments are valid!` Did I do it right?
There is a famous sentence in writer's circles, "Colourless green ideas sleep furiously." It doesn't make sense and is filled with contradictions but it is grammatically correct. This guy is like that.
Just from the video's thumbnail, I am excited to find out what Discount Adam Sandler In A Flash Hat is going to wow us with. Today's will be a good drive home listening to Sic trash this boob.
That's so convenient that he put those clips from The Princess Bride in there for you. Because I honestly thought you added it until you said so. It really fits the debunk better than his "arguments".
Is not every argument that an atheist participates in an atheist argument. Chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream! _no it’s not_ Yes it is! _Not it’s not you’re an atheist you’re illogical_ Yup you’re right my atheist argument is lame vanilla is better. _No it’s not, chocolate is dumb ass atheist you don’t know anything_
I once remember seeing a video claiming that a guy could beat atheism with the points in his video. HE MADE A TEN MINUTE VIDEO ABOUT ONE POINT! His entire argument was just "Well if you don't believe in God then you shouldn't have any morals because you don't believe in the fear of eternal damnation." That was a painful ten minutes. Anyway, great video, I just found you and your level of snark matches my own, at last, I have found my snarky equal!
If the only reason you arent a dipshit is because you fear punishment that tells me you are a dipshit...i dont commit murder because im afraid to go to the zap zap chair, i dont commit murder because its against our evolutionary intuition and its damaging to several people
Every time I think apologists have explored all the depths of "what if a real person talked like an Idiocracy character, but was somehow even dumber," another gem like LPP comes along.
Give him a college education and that word salad will become the most delectable word salad imaginable, at least that’s what Jordan Peterson cul….fans say.
programmer here, so about the computer part - information will always need to be stored *physically* there is nothing immaterial about the 1's and 0's stored on a computer, in fact the can be corrupted by other physical things (look for "Belgium elections 18 May 2003 bug").
The car mechanic analogy was fantastic. Good job, did enjoy, compliments to the chef. And the magic poof mechanic of the universe, how complicated is it to understand that a universe happened and then stuff grew in it, and we’re one of the things that grew in it, like a gas explosion in a building then some mould grows on a piece of rubble, then claiming the rubble is perfect and deliberately in that precise shape and one of the clumps of mould on one of the rocks was the entire point and deliberate purpose of the gas explosion.
The probability of abiogenesis is exactly 1. We exist, therefore abiogenesis happened. Now the probability that abiogenesis started because of a deity look to be extremely small given what we know about the universe.
Source code can not exist outside of physical matter. It's on paper, in a brain, in electronic storage, or in something else. To not comprehend this underlies the whole thought concept of this dude. His world model is so vastly oversimplified that he can't comprehend the concept of a container.
2:50 I legit thought that was something you were inserting into the video for laughs… then you explained that he was cutting in the Princess Bride clip and I don’t know how to feel about that.
It's one thing if somebody denies the obvious. That can be frustrating. However, when someone doesn't even understand the arguments to begin with, yet continues to rail against them, it is somehow even more frustrating. It then morphs from frustrating to irritating.
How would you even recognize Design if the Universe was designed? If God would have made everything... we wouldnt recognize design as something special. Thats one of the things that rubs me the most wrong about the Watchmaker Argument: You recognize the Watch in the field, as something designed. But if God had created the universe, the field and everything around the watch would have also been designed and not be different from the watch in that regard.
The bit with computer data not being physical floored me. I bet he was confused during the PS1/PS2 era of consoles, "What do you mean I need a memory card ? I've not changed the disc, just turned it off and on again."
Sic, my new favorite thing to upset christians, jews, and Muslims is to remind them that at least the majority of the Torah (old testament) was written by flat earthers. They really dont like that one 😂
@@SirSicCrusader I don't even use verses to back up my claim. I use the fact that the shape of the earth was discovered by the Greeks some time after the Torah was written. 😂 They always try asking what verse huh? What verse are you misinterpreting.. like.. none?
Well, at least Dunning-Kruger poster boy counted backwards from four to one without making a mistake. ( I wrote this prior to the end of the video, but refrained from posting it until he completed his countdown. You know, just in case.)
The fact that he thinks that information is only transfered is like saying "if you write down this, you'll forget it, and if you read it and learn it, it will be erased from the paper" xD
There's no humility like an apologist's arrogance There's no empathy like an apologist's bigotry There's no logic like an apologist's incredulity There's no love like an apologist's hate There's no assertion like an apologist's ignorance There's no accusation like an apologist's confession
These all mean that apologists are humble, empathic, logical, etc. You should instead say "there is no bad thing like an apologist's good thing". Moral of the story: atheists can also say dumb shit like everyone else.
... get Mrs. Sic pregnant. That is what I was thinking. Though, from various comments Sir Sic has said, he so far has prevented himself from falling into sin by having children.
An angry Sic is the best kind of Sic. Watching ignorant people saying moronic things and getting the complete piss taken out of them is like a drug to me. Ahhhhh, the good stuff.
Theist: "..Abiogenesis.. bla bla bla.." I never understood that sentiment. Normally everything higher than exact 0, when it comes to chance, is by definition; possible. But Theists are always like "..Without God, .. Chance suuuuuuper small,.. therefore... couldnt have happened without God! Therefore God!.." And we dont even need to ask where they got their (made-up) Numbers from to even calculate that "..small chance..".
if i found a watch on the beach my first thoughts would be somebody lost it, is it working, how much can i get at the pawn shop, & did anybody see me. i have larceny in my heart.
Abiogenisis was created in the laboratory back in the 50s, cant remember the exact name of the study, but its been done. Some toxic chemicals, a radioactive soup and a little lightning and poof!
I think it was done at Cornell, but I can't remember the scientists off the top of my head. I could look it up, but this is the comment section of a Sir Sic video, so I think I'll be lazy instead.
Like most apologists, he doesn't understand the difference between arguments and counter-arguments. So I'm pretty sure the "an immaterial mind couldn't make a material world" is him misunderstanding the counter-argument to apologists claiming that God being immaterial means neither he nor his actions can be detected by any material means. But if nithing he does can be measures or recorded by any material processes, that means he has no affect on the world, or else we'd be able to detect the impact even if we couldn't detect his direct presencd.
I'm left with a quandary, I am quite ugly and asexual but also a Sir Sic subscriber. How do I stop people getting the wrong idea about me? Do I unsubscribe, I don't want to do that.
Things have been pretty stable lately, BUT THATS NO FUN IS IT!! I want to grow into an amorphous mass and smother the entirety of UA-cam, so please, like, share, comment, subscribe, click the bell icon and everything else that you can to get the word of sir sic out there CHEERS!
Thanks for these wonderful crusades against ridiculous theist arguments. They really should have invested in some chain mail - err, I mean critical thinking classes - because at least this way you'd get to use your sword ... a little bit. 😆
is that a Grey Goo Scenario reference?
Yea. The once I can defend like what I answered you. Honest before politeness every time.
If we form into an amorphous blob can I be one of the blob nipples?....assuming this is an anthropomorphic blob.....
Congratulations Sir Sic. I couldn't argue against this guy, because I couldn't even figure out what he was trying to say.
The watchmaker has always been "I found a pocket watch on a beach, and I can tell it was designed as opposed to the sand around it, which was not designed, except that it was designed, because that's the point of the argument, but something about the watch stood out from the sand as being designed, so I can tell what can and can't be designed, and that sense tells me the sand wasn't designed. So, you know, checkmate, atheists!"
ow my brain
That’s the problem with the “argument from design.” Within the theistic worldview, literally EVERYTHING is designed (either by living agents or a divine agent). Therefore, having ZERO non-designed things with which to contrast the supposedly designed things, there is absolutely no way to “recognize design.” They just play with their intuitions and call it evidence.
This comment perfectly describes the thought patterns of the theist.
The sand was itself designed by millions of water banging into stone eroding it and grounding it into the tiny crystals upon which the watch was found. No god needed.
-1 Theists +1 science and athiest
In an infinite universe it's not impossible that there's a watch floating around in space
He’s anti god of the gaps but his entire argument is god of the gaps. Abiogenesis isn’t magic. Rib women and dirt men, created by a magical Jewish sky zombie, is the literal definition of magic.
of course
He wasn't a zombie at that point. He died and came back way later. You need to pay attention to the Canon closer.
@@vortex_1336 Considering he's all power AND all present, he was around when Adam was made and around when Jesus revived at the same time, otherwise this quad-omni god is a bit weak.
I find that there are a lot less questions about rib women if you don't write about it in a book that's read by everyone. Not one video about whether or not I'm doing magic.
@@vortex_1336he's unchanging, so he was always a zombie, we just couldn't see it.
This is a guy who made it all the way through the 5th grade, and then set out into the world confident that he now knows everything worth knowing.
ouch
You sure he made it through the 5th grade? He sounds like someone who missed 5th grade graduation because he had jury duty.
@@DavidRichardson153Jury duty? ITYM a court date.
I mean, even Jethro Beaudine graduated sixth grade, and he can definitely cipher better than El Pee Pee.
4th grade maybe
@@bt5029 I thought 4th at first too, but 4th graders generally haven't learned that all you have to do is sprinkle in a few big words, and people will think you're really smart. This guy doesn't strike me as a 4th grader that's ahead of his class.
I love how his first few arguments are all, "I'm not stupid! Stop calling me stupid!" This is not the kind of guy you think is going to debunk scientific theories.
ouch
He's also a guy, who won't accept any science as an explanation, bc he doesn't understand any of it!!
"Then stop proving me right."
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@@SlowMotionAtheist000 Nice!
We don’t “learn about science” we USE science to learn about reality. Science isn’t a “thing” it’s a methodology - a methodology that religious people clearly don’t understand. If they did, they would understand why the inability of the scientific method to investigate their god-claims reflects so poorly on their conclusion that god is real.
I see
I think the religious claims, the idea that we could have a soul, a creator and an afterlife are a failed hypothesis, science came to the point where the observations that gave us that idea are explained by other processes that don't qualify as miracles...
@@marcdc6809it’s not even a hypothesis because it’s just such childish reasoning.
@@kellydalstok8900 I'm talking about the medieval times, there's also this thing called phlogiston that was supposed to make things flammable, now we understand what chemical reactions are, there's laws of conservation of mass, no phlogiston...
No one is required to 'prove' that god exists. That is just science trying to bully everyone else.
I always find it funny when you point out all the fallacies they are using and they get upset by it. I recently called a guy out by saying "Of course you are upset about it, if I take away all your fallacies then you have nothing left. It's all you have"
But the trees man, just look at the trees!
@@Jcs57look at it with eyes? Eyes that are a very good example of evolution. Evolution that had created new ways to "look at the world". Evolution that was very necessary for survival as a species? And that is nowadays denied by said Bible readers? It is almost as if these Bible readers are against the God that made this all possible...
@@erikblaas5826don’t say eyes to these nutjobs!!! They will go all watchmaker so fast and say “oh eyes are so complex! Someone had to design them!” Ignoring how many people wear glasses, develop glaucoma, and the like…
@@dylanpatterson7149and the fact our immune systems don't know they exist
@@jackunknown1692 YEAH! I just heard that crazy shit the other day. The cognitive dissonance is mind numbing. Have they never heard of pink eye?!?! 😂
This is the first time I've ever seen an apologist not understand the points he himself was making. It has to be some kind of special talent.
Dunning-Kruger to the tenth degree!
Not here to mock you, but you haven´t seen too many apologists in your lifetime yet!
In my experience, its the hallmark of apologists to not understand what they are talking about, even less what their opposition is talking about.
@@TiKallisti Oh, I have, but not to this degree. Even Matt Powell at least makes a showing of pretending to understand what he says lol.
He's especial peshtal, I don't often need to stop doing what I'm doing just to replay the video, there's so much wrong everything in it, its incredible!
El Pee Pee is firmly of the community that believes “Nuh Uh” is a scientific treatise as long as it’s recited with enough smug confidence.
shonk
"El Pee Pee" !!
Love it.
THE PENIS!
To be fair I treat their bald assertions & unfalsifiable empty headed assumptions with smug indignation.
Life coming from non-life is as simple as fire coming from non-fire.
That was a great explanation, now can you make it simpler for the Creationists in the group?
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Have you read about the Blood Falls in Antarctica? If I remember correctly, the water is full of little spheres of iron and when it is exposed to the oxygen in the atmosphere it rusts and makes the water look red. These small spheres are just one example of natural order taking on a seemingly unnatural form. There are many self organising chemicals and they don't need a designer to look designed. There are probably a few small steps from self organising to self replicating, we just have not found them yet. It is my hope we do find them in my lifetime.
Bro life is insanely more complex than fire lol this is a stupid analogy. I think it still happened but to say it's like fire starting is kind of making the creationist point
@@jonathanw1106 The very first forms of life weren't *that* complex.
Oh good lord, “Theists don’t believe in magic, we believe”: literally describes magic.
Added to that the assertion that science is ignoring abiogenesis and you have to wonder if he was home schooled by Kent Hovind
shonk
ah
Atheists' responses: *slapped Bible* There's magic everywhere in this bitch.
shonk and ah in sir sic's comment section!
"It's not magic"
*proceeds to literally describe magic*
To quote Bill Bailey: "My mind is starting to unravel so soon... like a tapestry of angry kittens"
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You can tell yourself what you believe is rational. You can tell yourself it's the irrational people who don't believe. You can look into a camera and repeat it to yourself over and over. That still won't make it true.
I see
What an adorably vapid non-argument. If the video didn't have any arguments and was just vapidly repeating claims, you might have had a point.
Apologists take fractal wrongness to painful levels.
savage
Well, to be fair, it is also fractal ignorance and fractal stupid.
Give them credit -- being that wrong on that many levels at maximum consistency takes an awful lot of hard work.
Not much thinking but really hard work.
@@graemerose1616 Apology literally mean excuse. An apologist is someone who make it a living of providing excuses.
@@Kualinar Well, "apologia" technically means a defence of one's opinions or conduct - you can check that. It becomes an excuse when it's devoid of rational content!
@@graemerose1616 That's a coincidence, I heard that word for the first time on another video, today. It's a good one.
Intelligent designer: I can tell a watch on a beach as designed, because unlike the sand, it has structure and function!
Skeptic: So, the beach and sand weren't designed, they're totally natural without an intentional maker?
Intelligent designer: Wait one Jesus-loving minute, that's not what i meant...!
I have four stunningly good reasons why I steal Sir Sics whiskey.
1. It's cheaper than buying my own
2. I like the whiskeys
3. Sir Sic can't stop me
4. Because I can and will
GAHASP
What if he smites you with his large massive...pointy stabby thing?
@@thejudgmentalcat ....or that thing he has in his hand....
I have 10 questions that whiskey stealers can't answer.
@@zapveresepa1,
"Other than the people you steal Whiskey from, where is it from?"
"Why is there whiskey, and not nothing?"
... Those are the two I can think of off hand... what are your questions?
This guy is the Sherpa that guides you to the Guru at the top of Mount Stupid
ah
but gets lost on the way there
@gerrit forever lost on Mount Stupid 😁
Stupidism is now a religion?!
@@SlowMotionAtheist000 Not yet. At least not by that name
18:00 the whole argument falls apart when you remember that God interacted with the universe all the freaking time in the bible.
A flood here, a plauge there, some genecides elsewhere and a bit of resurrection from time to time.
So it's safe to assume it's the latter.
that late?
He then stuffed it up & then buggered off.
I'm a MUTE atheist. I don't say any of these things.
ah
Checkmate, theists
Absolutely. He hasn't come close to any of my arguments.
@@SirSicCrusader I could translate your comment "ah" to English, and to my surprise it became "ah".
@@2baby2rexchekmaet athetits
3:25
......buddy, you don't have any idea of what the god of the gaps is 😂😂
hehe
I’m thinking that’s why it annoys him.
I believe in the God of Evolution, that is the real God to Worship... But this one is denied existence by the Bible readers who wants us to believe everything that is in existence was there the moment it was created by "their" God.... So objects created today are proof that they were not created a long time ago by the God they claim to have created everything... 😮
Yes, it costed me some braincells to formulate this sentence, and I am not even shure I got it right. 😢
You can see the gears turning in his head while he's trying to make arguments. Classic.
hah
Can you, though? Really?
Well, his argument definitely does not support intelligent design.
damn
I think he disproves intelligent design. Or at least his intelligence.
Software guy here, we all know this but just in case, literally everything that comes out of Joe Bob's fucking mouth about computer science and software is misguided at best and deliberately wrong at worst.
Yep. I’m so old that I immediately thought of IBM punch cards. You can literally read the code in the arrangement of holes with your naked eyes.
For that matter, he doesn’t know about side channel attacks. We can now decode nerve signals to read what information is passing along them. Information from the brain being written on paper exists in the changing charge states of neurons between the brain and hand.
Information can not exist without a physical substrate. Reference the ongoing arguments about information loss in black hole event horizons.
You don't say lolok😂😂😂 he probably tried to download some RAM for his 📱 game.
not to mention he has apparently never heard of DNA
Computer code doesn't have a physical medium?
Has he never heard of floppy disks or punch cards?
Yes, I am that old! 😑
Man I want one of those kerchunk punch card machines to sign myself in to my own work... I think it'll make me more efficient
@@SirSicCrusader I didn't mean that kind of punch card, but I remember those too.
Fortran or Jaquard? I'm really old. Snigger!
Besides we have pretty good evidence computer code exists. You know, using our eyeballs and other evidence
I've seen the punch cards (both types), but the oldest medium I've used is the 8" floppy cards (my brothers and I called them "floopy cards", cause we were more used to the 3 1/4" floppy cards). Hope you don't feel as old now.
We need to start an SPCS Society for the protection of strawman.
The poor poor abused strawmen.
heh
This one started singing "If I Only Had a Brain"
Hey, what about strawomen hmm?
@@detonator82if only he was capable of comprehending anything.
He's 4 for 4. He misunderstood every one of those arguments and butchered his own attempts to prove them wrong. I'm impressed.
You can tell this is going to be kinda bad once he said he wasn't talking about magic, but went on to basically describe a magical being.
It´s kinda like saying piersing is not making hole in your skin cause it´s something positive.
Apologists trying to argue that miracles and magic aren't the same thing always cracks me up.
It is because they operate under a definition of magic that requires it to be generated or provided by nefarious forces, while miracles are from the all-good God.
So when someone tells them miracles sound like magic it autoconverts in their head to "You are saying God = Satan"
Well they aren't the same. Magic tends to be described in ways that suggest rules and properties. You burn the incense and chant the magic words and draw the symbol and this manipulates/interacts with spirits or forces or mana or what have you to cause a desired effect. Wave the magic wand and say Wingardium Leviosa! and that makes a specific thing happen. Anyone who believes in magic thinks it is a real thing that follows rules, just like any other thing. Even astrology follows this logic. This planet is in this part of the sky, so X is going to happen. Magic is just old fashioned pseudoscience. Miracles, on the other hand, are defined by being impossible, unpredictable, incompreehensible, etc. Magic is the use/manipulation of natural processes (that don't really exist), miracles are impossible nonsensical things that are pulled from the ass of a capricious deity.
"Computer code has no mass". Oh yes it does. The mass-energy-information equivalence principle states that information is a form of matter, is physical, and can be identified by a specific mass per bit while it stores information. It is shown that the mass of a bit of information at room temperature (300 K) is 3.19 × 10 − 38 Kg. (Vopson M.M. The mass-energy-information equivalence principle. AIP Adv. 2019;9:095206. doi: 10.1063/1.5123794.)
did you just EDUCATE ME against my will... I'm so mad right now...
@@SirSicCrusader I would not dare to educate you. But you are right it is futile trying to educate apologist boy.
@@Seoras111,
You missed the ^ part of the number... otherwise it can be misinterpreted.
3.19 x 10^-38 kg
This is what happens when you only read one book. And a crappy one too.
damn
The majority of them don’t read that book though.
I wouldn't call it a "crappy book." Of course after I used it for that purpose, then it would be.
I am athiest but the book is cool.
@@BeckDaniel Which one did you read? Or have you read more than one?
Creationists falsely believe that if they say stupid shit confidently, we are just supposed to believe it.
And it's always more convincing in a stupid redneck accent.
Sadly people do guz... BELIEVERS.
That's how they convinced themselves and it's not fair that we won't do it too!
Someone got a "My first Podcast©️" setup and figured he would give it a go without preparing at all. He definitely said words.
They were legit words, just assembled together in a funny way that rendered them useless 😂
Its been long since I've seen someone so bad at constructing sentences.
This "information isn't real" argument sounds like something someone who *really* needs to have their computer investigated by law enforcement would say.
It's a creationist dogwhistle. They like to pretend "information" is a substance in-and-of itself (so they can pretend it can't have arisen spontaneously, and that mutations altering DNA can "destroy" information).
I mean, maybe he is genuinely impressed when someone moves the arm to write stuff. "wow how did you move your arm? it must be magic"
We are not learning how to control physics and chemistry.
We have learned to understand them and use them to our benefit.
We all saw what happens when you try to control physics and chemistry, ie the Titan submersible.
Man, these theists must spend a lot of time building strawmen, only to fail at arguing against them.
the key is fire
As long as they're not building wicker men and trying to put us atheibobs in them
Either genuine lack of ability to comprehend anything or active deception.
with a bit more hand-waving, this guy could fly.
ouch
Surely you meant *less* but coordinated handwaving. The guy is a spoiler to himself (in the aeronautical sense!).
@@advorak8529 fair.
Logical, probable and possible do not equate evidence of Jack or shite and Jack left town.
damn
False antecedent, false conclusion, doesn't matter how good the logic is.
Did Jack take shite with them?
@@aralornwolf3140 No, you don't actually take shite unless you're a dog walker.
Hit the road, Jack
Did this guy just try to argue that computers have an immaterial soul? Huh.
"Dur...I just can't wrap my head around it."
Yeah, we noticed.
"We're not suggesting it's magic, we're just saying that maybe a wizard did it?"
I'm so glad that I've never been infected with the need to think that I'm constantly being watched and judged by an unblinking dictator that nobody can see.
Sounds like this guy watched YT apologists. Didn't really understand what they said. Tried to repeat what he heard and failed. But thought it sounded super smart. Most of the time when he made what I assume was a point in his own mind, I was left thinking: "Wut??"
savage
I'm glad Sir Sic translated what this guy was saying, because i couldn't follow any sense in the words that came out of his mouth 😅
This guy heard the word "leverage" once and now he uses it in every conversation.
Why is he talking into an air fryer?
God told him to?
cause hes hungy
That’s not an air fryer, it’s his girlfriend.
@@CthulhuforabettertomorrowI don’t think it counts as a girlfriend when they’re being held against her will…
@@UpperDarbyDetailing fair point, might explain why he’s fixing it?
It attempted to throw itself from a moving car in order to escape the abuse and extreme misuse of its air frying abilities.
What a monster.
Even if one accepts his arguments, they are still a long way from demonstrating the existence of his particular God.
His particular God is so good at designing, he couldn't get the Earth to orbit the Sun for an even number of days, we have to insert an extra day every leap year.
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An omnipotent being that could poof all of time space and matter into existence, needed a bipedal linguistic ape to build him a boat, just saying. 😂
It's even worse for Christianity. They don't just have to demonstrate their god, they have to demonstrate Jesus. I am an observant Jew and an atheist (yes that's a thing) so even if they could convince me that G*d (the 4 letter one in the bible) exists, I wouldn't be a Christian. I would be a theist Jew. They would have to convince me that Jesus existed and that he was the messiah and a god man. I notice Christians argue for a generic god and for the resurrection. But I don't often see them argue for their god specifically.
@@Jcs57for some reason he couldn't simply poof everyone out of existence and poof new people into existence.
Oh wait! I know how this game goes! Let me try it! `Some Christians say `atheists are stupid,` therefore all of my arguments are valid!` Did I do it right?
heh
You win the internet today! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
There is a famous sentence in writer's circles, "Colourless green ideas sleep furiously." It doesn't make sense and is filled with contradictions but it is grammatically correct. This guy is like that.
To be fair, the first step to building anything from IKEA is to decipher the hieroglyphics.
First, you need a map to get out of the bloody store !
@@CD_Character Hello, welcome to IKEA. Here's a map of the store, drawn by... IKEA.
Building something from Ikea is easy and fun.
Apparent actual argument: "You can't prove that a hypothetical all-powerful being can't do everything."
Porn is data on computers. Data on computers is magical. Therefore porn is magical.
One of the best examples of a guy that is completely clueless, but doesn't know it.
Just from the video's thumbnail, I am excited to find out what Discount Adam Sandler In A Flash Hat is going to wow us with.
Today's will be a good drive home listening to Sic trash this boob.
damn!
Well, I think if there is anyone that has a firm grasp on boobs, it's Sir Sic. :)
That's so convenient that he put those clips from The Princess Bride in there for you.
Because I honestly thought you added it until you said so. It really fits the debunk better than his "arguments".
The hoarse man of the 4 atheist arguments
heh
Is not every argument that an atheist participates in an atheist argument. Chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream! _no it’s not_ Yes it is! _Not it’s not you’re an atheist you’re illogical_ Yup you’re right my atheist argument is lame vanilla is better. _No it’s not, chocolate is dumb ass atheist you don’t know anything_
I once remember seeing a video claiming that a guy could beat atheism with the points in his video. HE MADE A TEN MINUTE VIDEO ABOUT ONE POINT! His entire argument was just "Well if you don't believe in God then you shouldn't have any morals because you don't believe in the fear of eternal damnation." That was a painful ten minutes. Anyway, great video, I just found you and your level of snark matches my own, at last, I have found my snarky equal!
If the only reason you arent a dipshit is because you fear punishment that tells me you are a dipshit...i dont commit murder because im afraid to go to the zap zap chair, i dont commit murder because its against our evolutionary intuition and its damaging to several people
Says God of the gaps is mean. Goes on to cram his God into the beginning of life gap 🙄😂
ah
Every time I think apologists have explored all the depths of "what if a real person talked like an Idiocracy character, but was somehow even dumber," another gem like LPP comes along.
It's genuinely hilarious that he thinks that spirits exist in the same manner data exists in hardware 😂😂😂😂😂😂
its not just hilarious... its also really funny!
Spirits exist.... in my wine glass 😂 🍷
i think the guy misunderstood the phrase "Ghost in the Machine"
So ghosts are what….deleted hardware?
Now to be honest. Spirits really do exist.
Whiskey even has a lot of 'Spirit'.
“We are too native to understand if the universe is or isn’t designed”
It isn’t designed, we figured it out actually.
All this word salad and no dressing.
The dressing is the sir sic sauce... wait that sounded dirty... and im ok with that!
I wanna get some of that sic sauce🥵
Praise cheesus.
Give him a college education and that word salad will become the most delectable word salad imaginable, at least that’s what Jordan Peterson cul….fans say.
programmer here, so about the computer part - information will always need to be stored *physically*
there is nothing immaterial about the 1's and 0's stored on a computer, in fact the can be corrupted by other physical things (look for "Belgium elections 18 May 2003 bug").
The internet is physical, it has mass, although estimates vary wildly 6 micrograms to 60 grams for its mass but it isn't zero.
Its almost like this guy is kinda dumb :0
The car mechanic analogy was fantastic. Good job, did enjoy, compliments to the chef.
And the magic poof mechanic of the universe, how complicated is it to understand that a universe happened and then stuff grew in it, and we’re one of the things that grew in it, like a gas explosion in a building then some mould grows on a piece of rubble, then claiming the rubble is perfect and deliberately in that precise shape and one of the clumps of mould on one of the rocks was the entire point and deliberate purpose of the gas explosion.
It's even worse. It is asking a car engineer what a metallurgist knows about the mix that goes into the metal used to create an engine.
The probability of abiogenesis is exactly 1. We exist, therefore abiogenesis happened. Now the probability that abiogenesis started because of a deity look to be extremely small given what we know about the universe.
Source code can not exist outside of physical matter. It's on paper, in a brain, in electronic storage, or in something else. To not comprehend this underlies the whole thought concept of this dude. His world model is so vastly oversimplified that he can't comprehend the concept of a container.
Good thing I already took an aspirin, because that level of stupidity was painful.
I took a whiskey, man. Works better, eu, I think.
He started off looking like tucker carlsen and ended up sounding like a 3 year old demanding an award for his crayon drawings
So you're saying he ended by sounding like Tucker Carlson, too?
I've got a pepperoni pizza 🍕 and some cider 🍺 and now a Sir Sic video. A perfect Wednesday evening. 🙋🏻♂️😁
man I want the things other people have...
2:50 I legit thought that was something you were inserting into the video for laughs… then you explained that he was cutting in the Princess Bride clip and I don’t know how to feel about that.
ah
the only way I know this guy isn't a boomer is because he's wearing a hat indoors.
hahaha
He must be going bald.
It's to cover his pointy noggin
It's one thing if somebody denies the obvious. That can be frustrating. However, when someone doesn't even understand the arguments to begin with, yet continues to rail against them, it is somehow even more frustrating.
It then morphs from frustrating to irritating.
Wow! The sheer lack of awareness by that guy!
Great video, Mr. Sir!
How would you even recognize Design if the Universe was designed? If God would have made everything... we wouldnt recognize design as something special. Thats one of the things that rubs me the most wrong about the Watchmaker Argument: You recognize the Watch in the field, as something designed. But if God had created the universe, the field and everything around the watch would have also been designed and not be different from the watch in that regard.
The bit with computer data not being physical floored me. I bet he was confused during the PS1/PS2 era of consoles, "What do you mean I need a memory card ? I've not changed the disc, just turned it off and on again."
Since I've never seen the movie (yet) I have always wondered what is the word that doesn't mean what he thinks it means. Today I learned.
@@unknown5150variable I do want to see at least once.
Sic, my new favorite thing to upset christians, jews, and Muslims is to remind them that at least the majority of the Torah (old testament) was written by flat earthers. They really dont like that one 😂
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@@SirSicCrusader I don't even use verses to back up my claim. I use the fact that the shape of the earth was discovered by the Greeks some time after the Torah was written. 😂 They always try asking what verse huh? What verse are you misinterpreting.. like.. none?
He obviously has never heard of mechanical computers, like the enigma machine. The program is physical.
Well, at least Dunning-Kruger poster boy counted backwards from four to one without making a mistake. ( I wrote this prior to the end of the video, but refrained from posting it until he completed his countdown. You know, just in case.)
The fact that he thinks that information is only transfered is like saying "if you write down this, you'll forget it, and if you read it and learn it, it will be erased from the paper" xD
There's no humility like an apologist's arrogance
There's no empathy like an apologist's bigotry
There's no logic like an apologist's incredulity
There's no love like an apologist's hate
There's no assertion like an apologist's ignorance
There's no accusation like an apologist's confession
I would reverse all your statements.
These all mean that apologists are humble, empathic, logical, etc. You should instead say "there is no bad thing like an apologist's good thing".
Moral of the story: atheists can also say dumb shit like everyone else.
Excellent take 👏
You're going from Sir Sic to 'Sire Sic' . Keep em coming ...greetings from across the pond
LPP - Ludicrous Prattling Pillock .. and that is about as imaginative as this gentleman and his arguments
ah
It's so cute how they think they have the gotcha that will reduce atheists to buckle at the knees and beg their god's mercy...until it's not cute.
Posted: 4 minutes ago. That’s twice as long as it takes for Sir Sic to…
…drink all of the world’s whiskey. What did you think I was going to say?
NOM
... get Mrs. Sic pregnant. That is what I was thinking. Though, from various comments Sir Sic has said, he so far has prevented himself from falling into sin by having children.
That was probably one of the more confused arguments I've heard this week. And the UK General election is underway so that bar is really low.
Your pie hole can get you killed eating pie because the air hole is also there...
CHECKMATE ATHIESTS!!!!!!
Obvs
The existence of people like this is proof against intelligent design
An angry Sic is the best kind of Sic.
Watching ignorant people saying moronic things and getting the complete piss taken out of them is like a drug to me.
Ahhhhh, the good stuff.
ah
More like a narcotic. I prefer the theists who are indignantly freaking out when they poorly present their arguments. That's the good cannabis for me.
I love how he lists advances in chemistry, physics, science, etc as though he has any understanding of those subjects or those advances.
Is it ironic that he is wearing a hat with the symbol Shazam
naw... its cause lightning struck his brain
One day we might figure out what we’re not supposed to touch
Theist: "..Abiogenesis.. bla bla bla.."
I never understood that sentiment. Normally everything higher than exact 0, when it comes to chance, is by definition; possible.
But Theists are always like "..Without God, .. Chance suuuuuuper small,.. therefore... couldnt have happened without God! Therefore God!.."
And we dont even need to ask where they got their (made-up) Numbers from to even calculate that "..small chance..".
And no matter how small the probability of the universe coming into being, that's irrelevant, since it HAS evidently happened and we are here.
if i found a watch on the beach my first thoughts would be somebody lost it, is it working, how much can i get at the pawn shop, & did anybody see me.
i have larceny in my heart.
Abiogenisis was created in the laboratory back in the 50s, cant remember the exact name of the study, but its been done.
Some toxic chemicals, a radioactive soup and a little lightning and poof!
I see
I think that was a study by honorary Dr. Frankenstein.
I think it was done at Cornell, but I can't remember the scientists off the top of my head. I could look it up, but this is the comment section of a Sir Sic video, so I think I'll be lazy instead.
I can’t wait for sir sic to do a response video to that sir sic video. It’ll be awesome!
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He will now explain the prostate in men!
ah
Like most apologists, he doesn't understand the difference between arguments and counter-arguments.
So I'm pretty sure the "an immaterial mind couldn't make a material world" is him misunderstanding the counter-argument to apologists claiming that God being immaterial means neither he nor his actions can be detected by any material means. But if nithing he does can be measures or recorded by any material processes, that means he has no affect on the world, or else we'd be able to detect the impact even if we couldn't detect his direct presencd.
I'm left with a quandary, I am quite ugly and asexual but also a Sir Sic subscriber. How do I stop people getting the wrong idea about me? Do I unsubscribe, I don't want to do that.
Clearly you are the good lookingest most sexually competent asxeual ever.. its your cross to bare.
I can't speak to your level of beauty but I can say that asexual does not mean you're not good at the sex, it just means you're not interested.
@@SirSicCrusader bare or bear?
@@SirSicCrusader So long as I don't have to unsubscribe I'll suffer through.