The billion dollar race for better VR
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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From the Google Cardboard to the Apple Vision Pro & Meta Quest 3, VR displays, optics and headsets in general gone through a crazy evolution in 10 years. With fresnel lenses, pancake lenses, MicroOLED (a.k.a. OLEDoS, or OLED Microdisplays) and more, there is a lot of sci-fi tech to talk about.
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lol that opening was awesome 👏
Yeah, it was eye-opening 😎
Next level lol!
Feels like a part is missing at the beginning tho
I was like "what the fuck!?"
Couldn’t agree more
As a VR enthusiast for almost 10 years i've never seen someone explain lenses as clearly as you did! Very well done!
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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The fact that taking a hologram of a lens also makes the hologram act as a lens is absolutely mind blowing to me!
The fresnel lens animation was soooo good. The core principle immediately clicked. Outstanding job! ❤
Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about when it comes to brightness. All the other dim-witted youtubers told us we were getting 1,000 nits of brightness on the Vision Pro, when the truth is that it's less than 100 nits.
The main issue is the lenses drop the brightness by 90%
So the actual display might just be 1000 nits, but the user only sees 100 or so nits (in a light enclosed environment btw), so it’s less apparent
@@fouzr We have seen the video. Nobody contests that the displays themselves produce that many nits.
Those people just read what they find in the companies website advertising materials. Go check all of their videos are bascules some random person reading of a product launch material
Just unsubscribe then; I’ll do it all the time when creators start spreading nonsense. Not worth your time 🙂
100 nits right in front of your eye is very different than 100 nits on a tv screen 30 feet away...
All of this really highlights how amazing the human eye is. What we're doing here is trying to match human perception and we're falling so short on so many levels it's kind of blowing my mind. Motion, color, depth, brightness, resolution... none of them are even close. There's probably more to it too. I can't wait to see what the future has in store for us.
Yet it won't be too impressive in 10-20 years. That is also crazy to think
God is certainly greater than us
And that's considering how shit human eye is compared to many other animals which have far better resolution, night vision, circular vision and what not
Agreed.
Allahu Akbar.@@americanbagel
Meta’s prospects for a holographic lens is awesome. I pray they are able to achieve it in good time.
it's some cool innovation for sure but I pray they scrap it and someone else does it, even if it's 10 yrs later
@@pratikkore7947 why?
Bec1use of evil Meta and Zuckerberg
@@bobamarmstrong As opposed to companies that aren't driven by profit motives and just do good for the sake of being good?
I would prefer Meta doing it because it would get done sooner, and you wouldn't need to get a second mortgage on your home.
@@pratikkore7947 Metas VR lab publishes their research... is public. Just like their varifocal and reverse passthrough research (which Apple obviously implemented with Eyesight).
You won't see holographic pancake stack for a few more years because the lazer back-light tech isn't there yet.
I love everyone still calling the AVP a VR headset, despite Apple's strong push to not do so.
It is what it is
Is easier to say and type it. AR/VR is the generalist way to call this awesome groundbreaking tech
That's because most people, especially tech youtubers are not that stupid or forgetful.
Just because Apple execs forgot that other VR headsets exist, doesn't mean the rest of the world did.
@@JamesR624 but but mahh spatial computing 👆🤓
@@JamesR624 AR/VR is in early stage in development and just because there is other vr before it doesn't mean it cannot innovate further. The real stupid people is the people who rushed to conclusion without learning a thing or 2.
The return rate for Apple Vision Pro is lower than the other Apple products, is just that youtubers got the Vision Pro in hope for more views and money and their initial plan wasn't to keep it anyways.
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I couldn’t agree more!
Some additional information on the black frame insertion for those who are interested:
The problem is really that the pixel response time of OLEDs is too good, with LCDs if you do 100fps, the display needs time to adjust, so you have a 'smooth transition' between the two frames, with OLED, that's not the case. The response times are so good that you get a sharp transition.
Think of it this way with frame one being '_' and frame 2 '¯':
LCD: _/¯
OLED: _|¯
OLED w/ black frame insertion: _ ¯ with our brain filling in a diagonal line in between.
Great video! I acutely noticed the slight off-focus optics when doing the Vision Pro demo and found it to be the most unimpressive thing about the device, so I’m glad that you provided the answer for me that Apple intentionally did that to the lenses so that users wouldn’t notice pixelation.
Great breakdown of this tech. And the CGI animation of the headset components was 🔥
great break video. love the detail and the extra effort to show videos explaining pixels/vision etc
Such an amazingly good video. Well done, I’ve been looking for a clear description of pancake lenses for so long and you just smashed it. Most professional video covering VR I’ve seen to date.
Fantastic video, I've watched a lot of content on VR and this has to be the most informative
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Truly amazing video
Excellent video as always, and what a great intro! That compositing is difficult and it looked superb!
Great video!!! Very excited to see more than just SadlyItsBradley talking about VR tech like this
This video is so much fun, really enjoyed every second 😂. Thanks for putting the time and effort into it.
Great video! You explained the displays and optics very well! I use VR every day and have for years. I can wait to see where we'll be in another decade!
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This was a great breakdown. I'm surprised nobody has taken advantage of necklaces for compute and battery functions. Putting everything on the goggles themselves make them inevitably heavy, and when they do add compute/battery, it tends to be on a belt back or something. I think the ideal formfactor would instead be a small pack that hangs right beneath the back of the neck, and another small pack balanced on the collarbone, and then a flexible rubberized link between them so that the whole set-up fits loosely around any sized head and drapes lightly across the shoulders, not putting pressure on the front or mack, but on each shoulder instead. Then it would only need a short cable to link it to the goggles, while massively boosting the performance of the system.
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I have no doubt of displays becoming capable of 30000nits but is that really the solution? Cause that on a battery would last even less than the 2h quite small range of the vision pro lol 🤣
Hopefully when we become able to mass produce screens this bright we'll also have better battery technology that can be mass produced to go with it
As you can see in the ending, it more likely is not.
@@neruwu so basically you need all the holy grails of tech to make this path work
@@andrijamunitic7320 hmm, we still need to somehow get quantum tech involved yet 🤔
Working on improving the nits may not be the correct way to go, as the issue causing it to be inefficient are the lenses (and other factors).
So makes sense to work on reducing the light that is lost
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for gaming I think the quest 3 has hit the sweet spot. when using vr optimizer and custom setting resolution to 5k (150%) so there is some over-scan. things like sharp enough for gaming. same way 1080p blurays still look fine
I agree, but VR gaming is not enough to make VR mainstream, otherwise it would have happened a long time ago by now
@@Mister0Eel affordable vr gaming has existed for less than 4 years (quest 1 2019). Vr gaming has been held back from becoming mainstream by the technology. Quest 1 and 2 had major comfort issues. Only fixed on quest 3.
If the quest 3 had ps5 level visuals and cost $300, and had several half life alyx level games. than it would hit mainstream. But even now the technology isnt there yet.
Comfortable vr that does not cause motion sickness has existed for less than 1 year. (Quest 3, requires 120hz, and more importantly requires good persistence)
Despite that, the quest 2 has outsold the latest xbox, and its has a lot of issues (that where fixed on pico4 and quest3)
@Mister0Eel VR gaming is held back because AAA game developers are saying there aren't enough users for them to make VR games. Gamers say there aren't enough VR AAA games. Eventually it will take over as playing Slyrim in VR then going back is like going back to playing pong. But AAA developers are all owned by a giant corporation that wants immediate profits now. Half hearted Sony and Apple VR and even Valve only making one game and Meta stopping PC game production is not helping. But it is inevitable.
Great video! I love your coverage on this topic. Please keep an eye on it and make give us updates.
holy, you have next level content, good freaking job
I agree
awesome video. I loved the detail put in this piece. Also I am in awe how much tech is in the AVP and others.
Your videos are outstanding, such clear explanations
This video is really good, you explained everything perfectly! I wish I saw this when I first started out.
Another well researched video from you, thank you very much, keep getting us properly informed.
Fantastic breakdown of the whole problemspace
Man you video is very well done you explained everything perfectly and with cool animation gg !
Hey man, one of the best intros you have ever done. Great 👏🏼
holy shit, this is amazingly well produced. kudos
Brilliant video. Amazing visuals
That opening! So cool!!
Great overview of this tech.
One of the best explanations of Fresnel lenses.
Hologram lens idea is crazyy
Truly a great, great video on this subject! That was wildly good, such a good job!!! 👀💯
Sponsor message and product both well placed and well chosen; I watched it all.
When one does placements like techaltar I would always watch until the end. Very refreshing, isn’t it?
This was one of if not the best episode of yours.
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great quality video. I learned something new
"We'll make thing sharp by making the blurry" - Apple
*opens popcorn
Like always an awesome TechAltar video.
I want to know how you made the animation in the opening. It's really awesome!!!
I was expecting another mainstream take on vr but you proved me wrong, you did a good job to presente some of the problems vr still need to find solutions
Thank you for such a well put together video
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
to be fair, OLED screens are so dim because of temperature concerns. if you use BFI with a 20% duty cycle you can boost the brightness of that cycle by 5x and still land in the rated temperature range for the display. OLEDs really are the perfect technology for eliminating persistence blur
The Quest 3 is closer to Retina than the AVP since the AVP has a lower effective resolution. Apple intentionally blured the displays so you wont see pixels but that means the resolution is lowered considerably.
For the brightness issue you described, I understand that we should do better from an efficiency standpoint, but I don't think we need brighter VR displays. I always use my Quest 3 at minimum brightness anyways
Quality content as always ❤🎉
Thanks for the amazing explanation
I re watched the opening 10 times, 3 of witch where on
slow-mo and I still don’t know how you did it. 😱 that is awesome
There are many channel whose Production quality is superb in all video. But this video has genius use of vfx, which makes explaining complex phenomenon simple.
This is what vfx are for.
And the way you explained all functioning of VR is just pure gold.
I learned more in 20 minutes than hours of explanation.
This was what UA-cam supposed to be. Putting my hopes on Nebula.
that VR effect was pretty cool
Finally a more recent video
Dat animation is top notch
What a well produced primer!
Captivating presentation, thank you very much for this video.
Very interesting and entertaining. Thanks.
Amazing video! You did an amazing job explaining the various optics & optical illusions
That intro🔥
Is this the highest quality tech video everrrr?
Insane beginning 😮👏
It's really incredible how perfectly well the Vision Pro is engineered down to its deepest details but we still have a long way to go, especially on the software side of things and creating truly immersive, complex, joyful and meaningful experiences (maybe only being solvable by advanced AGI).
Vision Pro is too heavy and it has a battery with cable attached to it ffs, its a terrible product to actually use
Finally all of my Quest 3 lens related queries answered.
This is the best masterclass on vr display technology.
That was an eye popping intro!
Wow great you see a detailed video on VR from you! Did the vision pro finally change your mind about VR? I remember you were quite doubtful in earlier videos.
Wow, that was a truly superb set of explanations, thanks!
I'm now wondering how a future holographic-lens headset will be able to provide all three colours - seems like it should need very different holographic lenses for each of R, G, B, unless I'm missing something crucial...
(Also that sequence at the start with the exploded headset... amazing 🙂)
Probably the coolest intro ive ever seen
Oh i didn't know about only ahowing frames for part of the time! That makes so much more sense
Great explanation! It sure makes you excited for the development of this technology. One of the founders of Oculus has said that Apple is doing a "social engineering" tactic while releasing the Vision Pro: they know it looks like bulky ski goggles but the tech is good enough now and it has such a potential that they know that if people want to use this device, eventually even more people will opt in for bulky sunglasses with a cord that runs into a pocket computer that you carry around. The Vision Pro is only the first of its kind.
OH WOW! The virtual holographic lens is a game changer for virtual reality. This is just unbelievable because you will actually feel like you are there. Absolutely Amazing.
Thanks!
Fantastisk video
I never saw such a high amount of low persistence then in the AVP. And I used a lot of HMDs before
The optimal VR display will have to be curved because our eyes move in an arc. Being flat vertically is probably easier to get away with, as the eye doesn't have as much range (about 65 deg.) as horizontally, which is 90 to 100 degrees. And we typically don't use the upper and lower extremes of movement as much as side-to-side. Having a lens mimic these curves is possible, but distortion is very hard to get rid of due to the small size and tiny distances involved.
Great video 🔥
Another great video.
Great video! I'd love to know more about the holographic lenses. I've known for quite some time that lenses can work in holograms, but I've only seen examples where the lens magnifies other elements in the shot. How do they make a holographic lense that magnifies something in the real world?
I really think VR will be the next big thing sometime in the near future. We are not there yet but it’s only getting better.
Nice video 👍
Quick correction - the Varjo XR-3 had a micro OLED well before the Bigscreen Beyond
Awesome intro!
Damn, I remember VR in 1995. A big bulky stand in unit and now it's as big and heavy as military night vision goggles.
I do want to add a bit off nuance.
100 nits sounds very dim but its not as dim as you think. Though I do have a Reverb G2 with fresnel lenses.
While using VR, you completely enclose your face, this means it's near-pitch black in there, this makes any light that appears in it much brighter to your eyes.
Our eyes are also amazing at accounting for low light so this also helps a lot.
THen.. I believe Pixar does this but unsure, forces their video mastering for HDR done in a completely blacked out room, using 100 Nits displays only.