Many years ago, a council of Man gathered. At this council, it was decided unanimously that it is acceptable to shed tears watching The Lord of the Rings trilogy. The decree was placed in the "Something manly in my eyes" segment of the Man Code. I have watched this series no less than twenty times and it made me cry every time. Anybody that has seen The Lord of the Rings will never judge. As a matter of fact, the more it hits a person, the more likely they are good people. For it to hit you deeply, you must be a particular kind of man. I look forward to watching The Return of the King with you two.
When Saruman did his big speech to the 10k Uruk-Hai army, the chanting of the warriors was recorded at a New Zealand football game. They put the words up on the jumbotron, Peter Jackson stomped in place to set the pace of the chanting, and they recorded it. This is why it sounds like a real crowd of people chanting, not a computer generated sound of thousands of people.
Fun fact.... as a youngster, Tolkien read Macbeth, and got very excited when the woods of Dunsinain started to move in the final battle.... only to find out that it was soldiers with branches and twigs moving towards the castle. I guess he felt he should fix that when he got a chance to. The Last March of the Ents is his genius re-write of that scene in Shakespeare's Macbeth. Chef's kiss perfection ❤
i’ve heard he also got inspiration for the witch king and eowyn from macbeth because in macbeth there’s a prophecy that macbeth “can’t be killed by a man woman born” or something but it ended up just being a dude born by c-section and he didn’t like that so he changed it 😂
@@SofaandChillAnd then when filming finally ended Viggo Mortensen convinced the trainer/handler to sell him the horse that played Brego and kept if for his own until the horse finally passed away of old age a few years ago. Brego literally spent the rest of his life as Aragorn's personal horse.
@@jmhaces and Viggo Mortensen bought the horse that the stunt woman for Liv Tyler rode in the first movie and gifted it to the stunt woman because the two of them had a bond.
@@SofaandChillthis is why you need to react to the extended editions (the true editions before the cinema CEOs and Weinstein kept pressures heavy to conform and cut up their prized work of art.
@@SofaandChillthis was one of the best Two Towers reactions I've seen! I loved how excited you both got about the Ents going to war. THAT made ME tear up! 💖
I love Lindsay Ellis’ take on Gollum. “A hair off in writing, acting, or directing and we could have had another Jar Jar Binks!” It’s true! Bravo! Big risk BIG reward.
I love that scene where Galadriel and Elrond are talking to each other about the situation and what the elves should do. They're just casually communicating telepathically across thousands of miles and talking about having literally seen several possible futures like it's no big deal and just day to day stuff because, well, it is day to day stuff to these people. Hell, Galadriel was born before the moon even existed.
@@Makkaru112If that's what was supposed to be happening during that scene, Peter Jackson sure chose a VERY weird way to portray that conversation as opposed to just showing them together talking about this in the same place instead of framing it as a vision/flashback/memory or whatever the hell that was supposed to be.
Helm’s deep is such a trip. The work that went into everything still astounds me. And Gollum…to realize this was in 2002! One of my favorite trivia is the scene with Gollum chasing the fish in the water. Andy Serkis did the first take to get the moments, then did it again for the interactions with Sam and Frodo. But because water is chaotic, the splashes didn’t match up. So, these amazing film makers went through that scene frame by frame, painting and correcting the splashes!
Highly impressive you caught that Faramir looked like Boromir and they’re from Gondor, most people forget Gondor exists by this time lol. And yeah I separate my comments as I watch
I was too young to remember the first time I watched these movies. That's why I watch these reactions. Seeing you fall in love with them makes me fall in love with them all over again.
32:10 When I first watched this, I was expecting Shadowfax to sprout wings revealing it to be a pegasus and fly above the orcs distracting them. Alas, it just leapt straight into them lol
It’s a greater history - Let me share Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
Aragorns lineage goes back to the greatest of mankind back when most elves saw men as equals as peers beside them as was meant to be along with having the blood of the greatest heros of all of Arda within his veins! Even a litera Maia spirit. A literal goddess. One of many maia spirits who sang the world into being and much later birthed the greatest elvish woman ever. Lúthien Tinnúviel. Which is his greatest ancestor next to her great elvish husband named Elu Thingol (Elwë).
I’m gonna defend Faramir, in the book he never tries to take the ring. But it creates a character arc where he can overcome what Boromir couldnt showing perhaps more quality of character as they’re closer to Mordor and the ring gets stronger as you go. Just like in the books Aragorn already is ready to be king but they gave him a character arc which works
I love your reactions! It’s what I felt when I watched the movies. And your son’s reactions are so pure and makes me relive the series. Good job you two 👍🏼
These watch alongs are now so good I love them more than anything else. I especially loved the reactions from Lewis during this which no doubt shows just how much he's loving the sheer scale of them and their intensity. You no doubt know now why I still believe these are the GREATEST movies I've ever seen. Nothing comes close to the sheer scale and characters so amazing as these. Even Lewis reacting to the Ent's getting involved in the war and the sheer numbers blew him away. You guys are simply the best!!!❤❤
It hurt my soul a bit when they showed the kids suiting up for battle and you looked at your son, realizing they were about his age. I am so glad they never showed any of the children once the fighting started. I wished they showed one or two at the victory feast to let us know they were not all killed.
I'm glad Faramir managed to escape the ring and see the bigger picture. There is a difference between doing the right thing and gaining your father's approval even if we have a terrible father.
Dude! Dude! One of many epic battles in this one! Smegal/Gollum I didn't trust him throughout the book and the movie. I was relieved when the Ents (trees) chose to fight and when Gandalf and the Rohirrim horse army finally came near the end. My favorite character is still Samwise Gamgee. His speech gets me every time. You have got to love his hobbit spirit! You'll see what I mean in the next movie. Bernard Hill, I love his portrayal as King Theoden, he should have won an award for his role, I think. I'm glad to see you enjoyed this as much as we did and still do. I'm looking forward to watching your reaction to Return of the King. Peace. ☮
The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohanese to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem: “Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?” But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it: At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie: “Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow. The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes. “Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?” The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohirric language to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem I quoted above ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it: At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie: “Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow. The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes.
Btw fun fact: Galadriel is Elrond’s mother inlaw and Arwen’s grandmother as Elrond married their daughter who died, captured by Orcs if not mistaken when Morgoth/Melkor was still alive and Arda (Middle Earth was still young before the coming of man and dwarves.
Part 1 of Treebeard(Fangorn) - In the Silmarillion, at the end of the chapter "Of Aule and Yavanna", Manwë states, "But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." This is before the chapter, 'Of the Coming of the Elves'. So, since Treebeard is one of the first three, he is beyond cool. And he is around before the elves arrive in Valinor. However, do not be deceived! The elves taught the Ents speech, even though they were around before. It is often mistaken that ents are trees or were once trees, when they are in fact are a sort of 4th children of Îlluvatar (AllFather) a creation of the Vala named Yavannah Treebeard refers to the elves "started it, teaching the trees to talk" or some such thing. He also refers to the elves curing the ent's "dumbness". People assume the two events are one and the same, when they are not. Obviously, Tolkien meant to be vague and allow the reader to decide what they looked like and just how ent-like huorns could become and how tree-like ents could become. But it is clear they are in the long lists of animals alongside men and harts and bears, etc., not plants.
I dont think I have ever met anyone or seen a reaction from someone who was team Eowyn. Jackson did a great job with how he portrays that little triangle (that he sort of invented in there)
there are so many wonderful little tidbits about this story and these films i could go on forever but i'm going to try to leave this to just uh. this'll just be my second comment lol. 1 in the books the elves didn't come because they were fighting battles on their own land so the men of Rohan defeated that army all on their own which made it even more incredible, 2 most of the effects were practical, using models and such, but where they couldn't use models a lot of the time the FX team had to actually invent new programs and technology because what they needed didn't exist yet (like the massive armies not just behaving like floppy cgi blobs and the fires you'll see in the next film). aaaand 3, something i don't think they ever really established in the movies is that the shrieks of the Nazgul weren't only ear-piercing, they actually flooded people with the most intense sense of fear imaginable. So Faramir looking terrified as he shouts "NAZGUL!" and characters hunkering down and covering their ears is because they were so afraid of the pure evil in the ringwraiths' screams.
Before the fight of Helm's deep Aragorn says to the Elves in Sindarin: "A Eruchîn, ú-dano i Faelas a hyn an uben tanatha le Faelas." What translates to "O Children-of-Eru, don't show the mercy to them, for nobody will-show you mercy."
You missed Fangorn singing about the Entwives. It was a beautiful scene full of beautiful shots. Just react to the extended edition with your now older son. You’ll be amazed how much he’ll appreciate it now compared to when he was a kid.
@@SofaandChillThe quality drops with the hobbit, it’s more CGI heavy and stretched into three films when it should be maybe 2. But it’s still plenty fun, you get to revisit many characters and see how things were set in motion. Just never EVER watch Rings of Power - Ever
@@SofaandChill The Hobbit is about 1/3 from the book, 1/3 from other Tolkien writings, and 1/3 completely made up. The original book was a short children's story.
Treebeard part 2 - Gandalf tells Thèoden that when he meets Treebeard he will be meeting the oldest thing that ever walked. Which is another indication that the ents were around, shepherding the trees, before the elves got to Middle-earth. Tolkien meant to be vague. After all, Celeborn and Galadriel hail Treebeard as "Eldest" when they meet him in LOTR. However, when Treebeard is reciting the poem of the different being, he calls the elves the "eldest of all". - - So who do we believe? Gandalf? Remember: Treebeard was in middle earth before even Galadriel entered there during the zenith years of Arda and of the elves and even the early mighty dawn of men when they came upon the scene. • Celeborn is said by his wife Galadriel to be the wisest of elves left in Middle-earth especially due to the fact he was a close kinsman family member of Elu Thingol Of Doriath (of which Elwë[Thingol] was Galadriel’s grandfathers closest friend and literal brother. The only. To there to stay in middle earth) Galadriel is certainly one of the oldest, she came over with the very first migration to middle earth, but Celeborn may not be as old as she is. People who go in for the rough drafts of Tolkien's creative process have noted that he first appears in the house of Thingol Graycloak long after the elves came to Middle-earth. But the ents were here when the elves arrived. The Elves are the eldest race of Elves, Men and Dwarves. The Hobbits were not included in the mythology and neither were the Ents. This does not necessarily mean the Ents are actually older than the Elves, just that they were here before the Elves got here. Fangorn is the oldest living being in the world; and is the personification of nature of the world. But the undying lands where the Elves originated were removed from the Circles of the World. However, the author does imply Fangorn is older than either Celeborn or Galadriel, because Gandalf claims he is the oldest living thing in Middle-earth and the two elves themselves address him as "Eldest". A couple other things to consider, from Hammond and Scull: in an unpublished draft letter of late 1968, now in a private collection, Tolkien wrote: 'Eldest was the courtesy title of Treebeard as the oldest surviving Ent. The Ents claimed to be the oldest ’speaking people’ after the Elves [illegible] until taught the art of speech by the Elves...They were therefore placed after the dwarves in the Old List...since Dwarves had the power of speech from their awaking’ “The Lord of the Rings, A Reader’s Companion” Hammond and Scull, page 382 Treebeard: Entry 464 The Ent And on page 499, while explaining Tolkien describing both Treebeard and Bombadil as ’eldest’, Hammond and Scull note: ’...it is worth repeating Christopher Tolkien’s comment that his father was given to ’rhetorical superlatives’, such as ’the oldest living thing’.
My one complaint about this movie is how they portray Faramir, he's my absolute favourite in the books but here he is just a pale shadow of Boromir until the very end, I wonder did Dentethor (their father) help write the script 🤣. "But fear no more! I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway. Not were Minas Tirith falling in ruin and I alone could save her, so, using the weapon of the Dark Lord for her good and my glory. No, I do not wish for such triumphs, Frodo son of Drogo"
Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: Denethor was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil. Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
So, the Battle of Helm's Deep took 3 months to film, used 2,000 extras, they did it at night while it was raining plus they had to use some artificial rain on shots. The filming logistics had to be absolutely insane. I don't know if every single extra had the same level of makeup as an orc when close up, but on average it took 2-3 hours to apply the makeup for a single actor being an orc usually.
“But fear no more! I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway. Not were Minas Tirith falling in ruin and I alone could save her, so, using the weapon of the Dark Lord for her good and my glory. No, I do not wish for such triumphs, Frodo son of Drogo.” “We are truth-speakers, we men of Gondor. We boast seldom, and then perform, or die in the attempt. "Not if I found it on the highway would I take it," I said. Even if I were such a man as to desire this thing, and even though I knew not clearly what this thing was when I spoke, still I should take those words as a vow, and be held by them.” -- Faramir
(Deeper) Let me share about Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
Absolutely.@@Jeowyn In fact Theoden and also Boromir, portray so well the aspect of what makes us human, with our strengths and flaws, that they are in fact by far the most realistic characters in the entire trilogy, and this makes it all the more emotional seeing them through this journey. Its way easier to do a perfect superhuman than it is to do a flawed realistic one on screen. Phenomenal actors both of them.
One thing that might help in understanding Denathor is that he has a seeing stone just like Saraman does. So he has been corrupted by Sauron. They never say this in the movie but it is written in the books.
Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: he was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil. Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
@Makkaru112 Well said, i had forgotten Denethor withstood Sauron when he used the seeing stones. He was hardly done by in the movie, that is for sure. I will have to read the books again. There is so much i have forgotten.
Yes but in the movies it made a bit lore sense to show the average person the long-standing connection they had with the elves etc. they should have added Elronds sons in with Haldir with the Dúnedain rangers and it’d be just as equally epic is not more. Haldir does mean hidden hero in Sindarin too !
christopher Lee was 77 at the time they made the movie. Ian Holm - Bilbo Baggins - was 68. Ian McKellen - Gandalf - 60 Bernard Hill - King Theoden - 55 John Rhys-Davies - Gimli - 55 Viggo Mortensen only played Aragon as a last minute replacement for another actor because his son loves J.R.R. books.
The connection between the Ents & Germanic&Irish folklore lies in their origins. J.R.R. Tolkien was a scholar of several languages & cultures+Folklore. He drew inspiration from various mythological & folkloric traditions to create the extension of our own world of Middle-earth which was not to be differentiated from our own world. It was to be a distant past of our own. Connecting many of our own worlds truest origins that all tie together. The Ent are believed to be the 'tree spirit,' which was a common theme in Germanic folklore. In many Germanic cultures, trees were believed to be inhabited by spirits or gods, were revered as sacred. The Ents, as tree-like beings, embody this idea of the spirit of the trees. Furthermore, the name 'Ent' itself comes from the Old English word 'ent,' which means 'giant.' This is likely a nod to the Germanic mythological figure of the Jötun, or giants, who were often associated with the forests and natural world. Overall, the Ents are a representation of Tolkien's fascination with Germanic + Druidic folklore + mythology, and serves as a tribute to the rich cultural heritage of these ancient traditions. Think of the ways of the Druid & Druidess, I know a few from long lineages and others that have been initiated. (The term initiation is different in this context. As many things in our lives are initiations and graduations. Rights of passage etc.) many in a sense become like trees and even become one with trees etc; many being medicine men/women, shamanic skills honed over years and years of study and experience, being Healers and councillors is the life of a shaman, to protect nature and to help others learn how to give back to nature too.
You lads are my favorite reaction channel. The Lord of the Rings had so much impact that it’s impossible to even put into words. Peter Jackson changed cinema with these movies, so much so that everything else made for this franchise is vastly inferior. I’m sure it frustrated many directors. 3 movies made relatively cheap, practical effects and the three movies were shot all back to back with almost no break. Absolutely incredible, flawless films.
Excellent reaction. Now it's onto the final one. And though no spoilers, if you think the battle of Helms Deep had a massive army... You're soon going to be able to see what Sauron himself can conjure up. ;)
It is as alien to the nature of ents to go to war as it is for humans to stand in one spot with their toes in the dirt and stay completely still for a year.
In my opinion all three movies deserved it, but they snubbed fantasy titles at the time (especially critics), but at least by the 3rd movie they did realize their huge mistake and payed due what was already owed and deserved.
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@@SofaandChillplease re react to the extended edition with your now older son who will appreciate the films even better now. Ontop of allowing the second viewing to let you guys relax more to then be able to notice things you didn’t before. ALOT was left out. You’ll be amazed with the removed character development and interactions between characters throughout the movie. Such as this - • Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
We all said that, _"the best battle ever!"_ But the statement was true for only a year because we said it again after the next movie... Luckily, you will say it sooner, but you will mean it just as much. ;-]
The elves coming to help at Helms Deep may not be accurate to the books, but as a story choice for the condensed movie version of the story it works so well.
The elves call death "The Gift of Men" because when they die they go spend eternity with Eru Illuvatar, the One Father. He is the one who "sent back" Gandalf and "meant" for Bilbo and Frodo to have the ring. "And that is an encouraging thought."
Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: he was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil. Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
Yes, elves can reincarnate since they're tied to the Earth, but they don't get to pass beyond the Earth, which humans do get to do. Elves are therefore envious of humans getting to essentially be with Eru (God), and humans are envious of elves' immortality. The grass is always greener...
@@rikk319not all elves go to Valinor. Not many even know it even exists as it’s soooo far back in history that even for many of the other clans it’s a legend
Sadly you’ll miss a great powerful performance by Éowyn’s brother Éomer from the third movie if it continues to be” “theatrical” I know these were recorded 2 years ago. So many just react to the movies in a more freshly current state which allows for a lot more authentic of a reaction I thought you guys weren’t going to upload the rest due to quality issues etc?
Wait till you guy's watch the return of the king the third movie in history to win 11 academy awards its incredable journeys end is near it was awesome at the cinema brilliant
Everyone. This was recorded 2 years ago. Who wants to see him and his now older son react to the extended edition with fresh new eyes after not watching it for so long?? ❤
He’s Aragorn level. And Gandalf’s pupil. A Big Big deal. He like his family members are also Númenorean like Aragorn. Just a different family line. Gondor was very different than other men. So making them look like average military of men is just weird to be film wise.
Many years ago, a council of Man gathered. At this council, it was decided unanimously that it is acceptable to shed tears watching The Lord of the Rings trilogy. The decree was placed in the "Something manly in my eyes" segment of the Man Code. I have watched this series no less than twenty times and it made me cry every time. Anybody that has seen The Lord of the Rings will never judge. As a matter of fact, the more it hits a person, the more likely they are good people. For it to hit you deeply, you must be a particular kind of man. I look forward to watching The Return of the King with you two.
Not quite Field of Dreams level, but certainly tears are warranted.
"I will not say, 'do not weep', for not all tears are an evil."
I cried so many times in RoftK
I dont trust people who dont cry at _some_ point during LOTRs
When Saruman did his big speech to the 10k Uruk-Hai army, the chanting of the warriors was recorded at a New Zealand football game. They put the words up on the jumbotron, Peter Jackson stomped in place to set the pace of the chanting, and they recorded it. This is why it sounds like a real crowd of people chanting, not a computer generated sound of thousands of people.
Fun fact.... as a youngster, Tolkien read Macbeth, and got very excited when the woods of Dunsinain started to move in the final battle.... only to find out that it was soldiers with branches and twigs moving towards the castle.
I guess he felt he should fix that when he got a chance to. The Last March of the Ents is his genius re-write of that scene in Shakespeare's Macbeth.
Chef's kiss perfection ❤
Wow! What a story.
i’ve heard he also got inspiration for the witch king and eowyn from macbeth because in macbeth there’s a prophecy that macbeth “can’t be killed by a man woman born” or something but it ended up just being a dude born by c-section and he didn’t like that so he changed it 😂
To the forgotten character Gamling. Always there, always the soldier, always steps up, always gets the job done without complaint.
He was way better in the books and didn’t die like a lowly soldier to be picked off for scene hype
@@Makkaru112 What on Earth are you talking about? Gamling doesn't die in this film.
@@rollomaughfling380yes he does, he dies to the warg scouts when they’re traveling to helms deep
@@CenrelianGuardsmen That was Hamma, Gamling's friend
The horse that came to Aragorn was Brego, the horse he soothed after the kings son died
So they saved each other...makes it even better!
@@SofaandChillAnd then when filming finally ended Viggo Mortensen convinced the trainer/handler to sell him the horse that played Brego and kept if for his own until the horse finally passed away of old age a few years ago. Brego literally spent the rest of his life as Aragorn's personal horse.
@@jmhaces and Viggo Mortensen bought the horse that the stunt woman for Liv Tyler rode in the first movie and gifted it to the stunt woman because the two of them had a bond.
@@SofaandChillthis is why you need to react to the extended editions (the true editions before the cinema CEOs and Weinstein kept pressures heavy to conform and cut up their prized work of art.
That Sam Speech gets me Evertime ❤️🕯️👏
So amazing, i even teared up!
Sam's speech, and Gandalf's speech "so do all who live to see such times" ❤ always applicable ❤
@@SofaandChillthis was one of the best Two Towers reactions I've seen! I loved how excited you both got about the Ents going to war. THAT made ME tear up! 💖
@@lisawilliams8180 Aww thanks Lisa, such a lovely thing to say
Andy Serkis deserved an Oscar for this movie! CGI or not, without him, it would have been a cartoon!
I love Lindsay Ellis’ take on Gollum. “A hair off in writing, acting, or directing and we could have had another Jar Jar Binks!” It’s true! Bravo! Big risk BIG reward.
I love that scene where Galadriel and Elrond are talking to each other about the situation and what the elves should do. They're just casually communicating telepathically across thousands of miles and talking about having literally seen several possible futures like it's no big deal and just day to day stuff because, well, it is day to day stuff to these people. Hell, Galadriel was born before the moon even existed.
Elrond knows, when your mother-in-law calls long distance, you better stay on the phone.
@@agedp8386Exactly. Even when it's collect.
Lol good one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He physically went to lothlorien. It’s showed in the behind the scenes documentaries in the playlist by pajasek99
@@Makkaru112If that's what was supposed to be happening during that scene, Peter Jackson sure chose a VERY weird way to portray that conversation as opposed to just showing them together talking about this in the same place instead of framing it as a vision/flashback/memory or whatever the hell that was supposed to be.
Fun Fact: NO horses were harmed in this movie. Also Viggo Mortensen bought his horse & gave it to his horse trainer.
Brego!
He bought Brego for himself and Asfaloth for the horse trainer.
He bought himself his horse. He bought Arwen’s horse for her stunt rider.
"The battle scene at the end was probably the best that I've ever seen."
"The Return of the King:" hold my beer...
Helm’s deep is such a trip. The work that went into everything still astounds me.
And Gollum…to realize this was in 2002! One of my favorite trivia is the scene with Gollum chasing the fish in the water. Andy Serkis did the first take to get the moments, then did it again for the interactions with Sam and Frodo. But because water is chaotic, the splashes didn’t match up. So, these amazing film makers went through that scene frame by frame, painting and correcting the splashes!
Highly impressive you caught that Faramir looked like Boromir and they’re from Gondor, most people forget Gondor exists by this time lol. And yeah I separate my comments as I watch
I was really proud ofmyself I must say haha. I don't mind that
Sam gets me. Every. Single. Time. His speeches are truely heartfelt and make me tear up.
Morning coffee + smoke + sofa and chill LOTR Two Towers pt 2 = perfect start to the day 👌 😊
That's awesome, happy to start it off well mate
What a great sight to see a father and son enjoying some fantasy violence together. Warms my heart ❤
Of this entire trilogy.. the Battle of Helm's Deep is still my favourite. Truly EPIC. x
We all need a friend like Sam.
We all need to BE a Sam to many or at least one person. It’s the whole point.
I was too young to remember the first time I watched these movies. That's why I watch these reactions. Seeing you fall in love with them makes me fall in love with them all over again.
32:10 When I first watched this, I was expecting Shadowfax to sprout wings revealing it to be a pegasus and fly above the orcs distracting them. Alas, it just leapt straight into them lol
Aragorn it´s a Dunedáin, a kind of human race (royal blood), gifted with long life. That´s why he has 87 years old here, looking quite more young.
It’s a greater history - Let me share Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand.
After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die.
Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm !
Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.)
Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's
Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤
Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother)
The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
Aragorns lineage goes back to the greatest of mankind back when most elves saw men as equals as peers beside them as was meant to be along with having the blood of the greatest heros of all of Arda within his veins! Even a litera Maia spirit. A literal goddess. One of many maia spirits who sang the world into being and much later birthed the greatest elvish woman ever. Lúthien Tinnúviel. Which is his greatest ancestor next to her great elvish husband named Elu Thingol (Elwë).
I’m gonna defend Faramir, in the book he never tries to take the ring. But it creates a character arc where he can overcome what Boromir couldnt showing perhaps more quality of character as they’re closer to Mordor and the ring gets stronger as you go.
Just like in the books Aragorn already is ready to be king but they gave him a character arc which works
You sure comment a lot. And I’m here for it my friend.
There's no defense of movie "Faramir." The real book Faramir is an awesome character though.
I love your reactions! It’s what I felt when I watched the movies.
And your son’s reactions are so pure and makes me relive the series.
Good job you two 👍🏼
8:05 medieval count dooku addresses his clone army :P
These watch alongs are now so good I love them more than anything else. I especially loved the reactions from Lewis during this which no doubt shows just how much he's loving the sheer scale of them and their intensity. You no doubt know now why I still believe these are the GREATEST movies I've ever seen. Nothing comes close to the sheer scale and characters so amazing as these. Even Lewis reacting to the Ent's getting involved in the war and the sheer numbers blew him away. You guys are simply the best!!!❤❤
the wilhelm scream is CHEFS KISS
It hurt my soul a bit when they showed the kids suiting up for battle and you looked at your son, realizing they were about his age. I am so glad they never showed any of the children once the fighting started. I wished they showed one or two at the victory feast to let us know they were not all killed.
I'm glad Faramir managed to escape the ring and see the bigger picture. There is a difference between doing the right thing and gaining your father's approval even if we have a terrible father.
When helms deep blows up, they actually did it. Most of these are models of varying scale, some full sized. So they just blew up the model lol
Dude! Dude! One of many epic battles in this one! Smegal/Gollum I didn't trust him throughout the book and the movie. I was relieved when the Ents (trees) chose to fight and when Gandalf and the Rohirrim horse army finally came near the end. My favorite character is still Samwise Gamgee. His speech gets me every time. You have got to love his hobbit spirit! You'll see what I mean in the next movie. Bernard Hill, I love his portrayal as King Theoden, he should have won an award for his role, I think. I'm glad to see you enjoyed this as much as we did and still do. I'm looking forward to watching your reaction to Return of the King. Peace. ☮
Hey! The hand over your son during Sams speech got me emotional and wishing I one day will have a kid!
Your an Awesome Father Mate!!!!
Thanks Danny
The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohanese to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem:
“Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?”
But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it:
At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie:
“Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow.
The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes.
“Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?”
The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohirric language to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem I quoted above ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it:
At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie:
“Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills... into Shadow.
The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes.
Btw fun fact: Galadriel is Elrond’s mother inlaw and Arwen’s grandmother as Elrond married their daughter who died, captured by Orcs if not mistaken when Morgoth/Melkor was still alive and Arda (Middle Earth was still young before the coming of man and dwarves.
I read these books and watched these movies with my children and now with my grandchildren.
Phil Dragash had one of the best ambient readings to date!
I love you guy's reaction to the Wilhelm scream 😂 @23:00
Part 1 of Treebeard(Fangorn) - In the Silmarillion, at the end of the chapter "Of Aule and Yavanna", Manwë states, "But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." This is before the chapter, 'Of the Coming of the Elves'. So, since Treebeard is one of the first three, he is beyond cool. And he is around before the elves arrive in Valinor. However, do not be deceived! The elves taught the Ents speech, even though they were around before.
It is often mistaken that ents are trees or were once trees, when they are in fact are a sort of 4th children of Îlluvatar (AllFather) a creation of the Vala named Yavannah
Treebeard refers to the elves "started it, teaching the trees to talk" or some such thing. He also refers to the elves curing the ent's "dumbness". People assume the two events are one and the same, when they are not.
Obviously, Tolkien meant to be vague and allow the reader to decide what they looked like and just how ent-like huorns could become and how tree-like ents could become. But it is clear they are in the long lists of animals alongside men and harts and bears, etc., not plants.
I'm super impressed that you still had some Haribo remaining after 3.5 hours.
Everyone should know their Sam. 😢
13:33 That shot. You REALLY gotta give it some appreciation.
5:30 Elven agility. Wood-Elves such as Legolas are known for this and their amazing arching skills.
I dont think I have ever met anyone or seen a reaction from someone who was team Eowyn. Jackson did a great job with how he portrays that little triangle (that he sort of invented in there)
there are so many wonderful little tidbits about this story and these films i could go on forever but i'm going to try to leave this to just uh. this'll just be my second comment lol. 1 in the books the elves didn't come because they were fighting battles on their own land so the men of Rohan defeated that army all on their own which made it even more incredible, 2 most of the effects were practical, using models and such, but where they couldn't use models a lot of the time the FX team had to actually invent new programs and technology because what they needed didn't exist yet (like the massive armies not just behaving like floppy cgi blobs and the fires you'll see in the next film). aaaand 3, something i don't think they ever really established in the movies is that the shrieks of the Nazgul weren't only ear-piercing, they actually flooded people with the most intense sense of fear imaginable. So Faramir looking terrified as he shouts "NAZGUL!" and characters hunkering down and covering their ears is because they were so afraid of the pure evil in the ringwraiths' screams.
Before the fight of Helm's deep Aragorn says to the Elves in Sindarin: "A Eruchîn, ú-dano i Faelas a hyn an uben tanatha le Faelas." What translates to "O Children-of-Eru, don't show the mercy to them, for nobody will-show you mercy."
This is another reason out of thousands that the trilogy films had a huge love for the scholar and veteran that Tolkien himself was behind it all ❤
You missed Fangorn singing about the Entwives. It was a beautiful scene full of beautiful shots. Just react to the extended edition with your now older son. You’ll be amazed how much he’ll appreciate it now compared to when he was a kid.
18:57 Your joke and how you looked at each other😂
The battle of Helms Deep is something special❤
Never tire of watching these movies
What did you think of the hobbit?
@@SofaandChillThe quality drops with the hobbit, it’s more CGI heavy and stretched into three films when it should be maybe 2. But it’s still plenty fun, you get to revisit many characters and see how things were set in motion.
Just never EVER watch Rings of Power - Ever
@@SofaandChill The Hobbit is about 1/3 from the book, 1/3 from other Tolkien writings, and 1/3 completely made up. The original book was a short children's story.
@@SofaandChill the Hobbit is great and well worth watching.
@@bengilbert7655 It's a little over 300 pages, so not a short story, but short in comparison to the 1,174 pages of Lord of the Rings.
Treebeard part 2 - Gandalf tells Thèoden that when he meets Treebeard he will be meeting the oldest thing that ever walked. Which is another indication that the ents were around, shepherding the trees, before the elves got to Middle-earth. Tolkien meant to be vague. After all, Celeborn and Galadriel hail Treebeard as "Eldest" when they meet him in LOTR. However, when Treebeard is reciting the poem of the different being, he calls the elves the "eldest of all".
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So who do we believe? Gandalf? Remember: Treebeard was in middle earth before even Galadriel entered there during the zenith years of Arda and of the elves and even the early mighty dawn of men when they came upon the scene.
• Celeborn is said by his wife Galadriel to be the wisest of elves left in Middle-earth especially due to the fact he was a close kinsman family member of Elu Thingol Of Doriath (of which Elwë[Thingol] was Galadriel’s grandfathers closest friend and literal brother. The only. To there to stay in middle earth) Galadriel is certainly one of the oldest, she came over with the very first migration to middle earth, but Celeborn may not be as old as she is.
People who go in for the rough drafts of Tolkien's creative process have noted that he first appears in the house of Thingol Graycloak long after the elves came to Middle-earth.
But the ents were here when the elves arrived. The Elves are the eldest race of Elves, Men and Dwarves.
The Hobbits were not included in the mythology and neither were the Ents.
This does not necessarily mean the Ents are actually older than the Elves, just that they were here before the Elves got here.
Fangorn is the oldest living being in the world; and is the personification of nature of the world.
But the undying lands where the Elves originated were removed from the Circles of the World.
However, the author does imply Fangorn is older than either Celeborn or Galadriel, because Gandalf claims he is the oldest living thing in Middle-earth and the two elves themselves address him as "Eldest".
A couple other things to consider, from Hammond and Scull: in an unpublished draft letter of late 1968, now in a private collection, Tolkien wrote:
'Eldest was the courtesy title of Treebeard as the oldest surviving Ent. The Ents claimed to be the oldest ’speaking people’ after the Elves [illegible] until taught the art of speech by the Elves...They were therefore placed after the dwarves in the Old List...since Dwarves had the power of speech from their awaking’
“The Lord of the Rings, A Reader’s Companion” Hammond and Scull, page 382 Treebeard: Entry 464 The Ent
And on page 499, while explaining Tolkien describing both Treebeard and Bombadil as ’eldest’, Hammond and Scull note: ’...it is worth repeating Christopher Tolkien’s comment that his father was given to ’rhetorical superlatives’, such as ’the oldest living thing’.
Sam's speech at the end gets me
Can't wait for you to see the third part. You will be overwhelmed.
My one complaint about this movie is how they portray Faramir, he's my absolute favourite in the books but here he is just a pale shadow of Boromir until the very end, I wonder did Dentethor (their father) help write the script 🤣.
"But fear no more! I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway. Not were Minas Tirith falling in ruin and I alone could save her, so, using the weapon of the Dark Lord for her good and my glory. No, I do not wish for such triumphs, Frodo son of Drogo"
Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: Denethor was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil.
Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
I can't wait for both of your reactions to the ride of the Rohirrim in the next one. It's officially the most epic film in all of cinema. Ever.
So, the Battle of Helm's Deep took 3 months to film, used 2,000 extras, they did it at night while it was raining plus they had to use some artificial rain on shots. The filming logistics had to be absolutely insane. I don't know if every single extra had the same level of makeup as an orc when close up, but on average it took 2-3 hours to apply the makeup for a single actor being an orc usually.
“But fear no more! I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway. Not were Minas Tirith falling in ruin and I alone could save her, so, using the weapon of the Dark Lord for her good and my glory. No, I do not wish for such triumphs, Frodo son of Drogo.”
“We are truth-speakers, we men of Gondor. We boast seldom, and then perform, or die in the attempt. "Not if I found it on the highway would I take it," I said. Even if I were such a man as to desire this thing, and even though I knew not clearly what this thing was when I spoke, still I should take those words as a vow, and be held by them.” -- Faramir
(Deeper) Let me share about Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm !
Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.)
Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's
Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤
Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother)
The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
You men make a good team. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to the rest!
I think I have to choose Theoden for my favorite. He gets all of the best lines (and that trend continues into the next one).
Bernard Hill was robbed of an Oscar. He is fantastic.
Absolutely.@@Jeowyn In fact Theoden and also Boromir, portray so well the aspect of what makes us human, with our strengths and flaws, that they are in fact by far the most realistic characters in the entire trilogy, and this makes it all the more emotional seeing them through this journey. Its way easier to do a perfect superhuman than it is to do a flawed realistic one on screen. Phenomenal actors both of them.
Forth Éorlingas! “For the red Dawn! To death and the worlds ending!”
One thing that might help in understanding Denathor is that he has a seeing stone just like Saraman does. So he has been corrupted by Sauron. They never say this in the movie but it is written in the books.
Nope. He wasn’t corrupted by Sauron nor this much of a jackass in the books.
Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: he was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil.
Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
@Makkaru112 Well said, i had forgotten Denethor withstood Sauron when he used the seeing stones. He was hardly done by in the movie, that is for sure. I will have to read the books again. There is so much i have forgotten.
In the book the only elves that come to Helms Deep are Arwens brothers along with Dunedain, the other Rangers, descendants of Numenor.
Yes but in the movies it made a bit lore sense to show the average person the long-standing connection they had with the elves etc. they should have added Elronds sons in with Haldir with the Dúnedain rangers and it’d be just as equally epic is not more. Haldir does mean hidden hero in Sindarin too !
Lying in the water Aragorn dreams of Arwen kissing him, all while his house is nuzzling his mouth ...
Nice to see a bit of Theodens Horse and Rider speech , to often passed over in reactions
christopher Lee was 77 at the time they made the movie.
Ian Holm - Bilbo Baggins - was 68.
Ian McKellen - Gandalf - 60
Bernard Hill - King Theoden - 55
John Rhys-Davies - Gimli - 55
Viggo Mortensen only played Aragon as a last minute replacement for another actor because his son loves J.R.R. books.
The connection between the Ents & Germanic&Irish folklore lies in their origins. J.R.R. Tolkien was a scholar of several languages & cultures+Folklore. He drew inspiration from various mythological & folkloric traditions to create the extension of our own world of Middle-earth which was not to be differentiated from our own world. It was to be a distant past of our own. Connecting many of our own worlds truest origins that all tie together.
The Ent are believed to be the 'tree spirit,' which was a common theme in Germanic folklore. In many Germanic cultures, trees were believed to be inhabited by spirits or gods, were revered as sacred. The Ents, as tree-like beings, embody this idea of the spirit of the trees.
Furthermore, the name 'Ent' itself comes from the Old English word 'ent,' which means 'giant.' This is likely a nod to the Germanic mythological figure of the Jötun, or giants, who were often associated with the forests and natural world.
Overall, the Ents are a representation of Tolkien's fascination with Germanic + Druidic folklore + mythology, and serves as a tribute to the rich cultural heritage of these ancient traditions.
Think of the ways of the Druid & Druidess, I know a few from long lineages and others that have been initiated. (The term initiation is different in this context. As many things in our lives are initiations and graduations. Rights of passage etc.) many in a sense become like trees and even become one with trees etc; many being medicine men/women, shamanic skills honed over years and years of study and experience, being Healers and councillors is the life of a shaman, to protect nature and to help others learn how to give back to nature too.
I hava a son 1 year old. I am very excited about wathching with him LOFTR when i saw your videos.But we have around 10 years for watching :(
You lads are my favorite reaction channel. The Lord of the Rings had so much impact that it’s impossible to even put into words. Peter Jackson changed cinema with these movies, so much so that everything else made for this franchise is vastly inferior. I’m sure it frustrated many directors. 3 movies made relatively cheap, practical effects and the three movies were shot all back to back with almost no break. Absolutely incredible, flawless films.
Lewis reaction!!! Loved it!❤
Excellent reaction. Now it's onto the final one. And though no spoilers, if you think the battle of Helms Deep had a massive army... You're soon going to be able to see what Sauron himself can conjure up. ;)
It is as alien to the nature of ents to go to war as it is for humans to stand in one spot with their toes in the dirt and stay completely still for a year.
Just wait for part iii ;)
The next movie wins best picture at the Oscars.
In my opinion all three movies deserved it, but they snubbed fantasy titles at the time (especially critics), but at least by the 3rd movie they did realize their huge mistake and payed due what was already owed and deserved.
Next The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition Of The Return Of The King Extended Edition.
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
Deal 👍
@@SofaandChillplease re react to the extended edition with your now older son who will appreciate the films even better now. Ontop of allowing the second viewing to let you guys relax more to then be able to notice things you didn’t before. ALOT was left out. You’ll be amazed with the removed character development and interactions between characters throughout the movie. Such as this -
• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin!
(An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.)
2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time.
3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer.
4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall.
5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books).
6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel).
That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn!
7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
Thanks guys!!👏👏👍👍
Great reaction. How could it possibly get better?
We shall see.
One of my favorite movies ever
14:01 There's our Hufflepuff boy xDD
We all said that, _"the best battle ever!"_
But the statement was true for only a year because we said it again after the next movie... Luckily, you will say it sooner, but you will mean it just as much. ;-]
The elves coming to help at Helms Deep may not be accurate to the books, but as a story choice for the condensed movie version of the story it works so well.
Great job lads.
ONWARD! TO THE END!
Yes! Continuing on the saga.
The elves call death "The Gift of Men" because when they die they go spend eternity with Eru Illuvatar, the One Father. He is the one who "sent back" Gandalf and "meant" for Bilbo and Frodo to have the ring. "And that is an encouraging thought."
Go beyond the circles of the world. This was also so Morgoth couldn’t chase and capture all the Fëa spirits of mankind and twist them to his will etc.
18:52 xDDD
and from South Shields, a sandancer lol
lol, just round the corner from us :)
Wish I could look like that at 87!
are they even watching the extended ?
H'e doesn't know how to use a knife and fork, let alone an axe' made me smile. Perhaps he's from the US
great reaction
He drew first blood
I agree
the best trilogy ever :D
Run beachez hahahah
Hahaha I couldn't help myself!
How long ago was this filmed?
Late 2022 according to patreon.
2 years ago sadly. It’s such a weird thing to do
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Denethor (& Faramir) was done dirty: he was way more noble & mighty in the books. Not to mention he contended wills with Sauron for decades nonstop & ontop of that even now he was never broken nor could Sauron alter what Denethor would see in the palantir even then he couldn’t control what Denethor had control of which was how he CHOSE to INTERPRET the visions given to him. Using it all to Gondor’s advantage! ❤ he also lit the beacons and got the women & children far away from the city longer ahead of time. So the movie butchered him as well as faramir but they didn’t butcher faramir as badly thankfully. He could have been shown to give Pippen his newest order to light the beacons so then it wouldn’t change the scene much at all as presented! The story here is Faramir’s birth ended up killing his mother Finduilas(named after an elvish princess from the era of Children Of Hùrin was set in);she was a Numenorean woman of the Faithful which her ancestors survived the Cataclysm of Númenor by the way! He was hurt deeply by her death and ontop of that Faramir had the likeness both in temperament as well as his appearance/bearing so he ways reminded of his wife over and over again by Faramir who was just like her, and all it took was a simple look or what-have-you to drive the knife in deeper into his heart about his wife. But also Aragorn when he went by the name gifted to him as Thorongil Denethor’s father basically overshadowing him from his own father so he is as psychology goes: treated Boromir the same way his father treated Aragorn/Thorongil. Note that Boromir and Faramir are half Númenorean which is a big thing as far as the legendarium goes! And it’s something to note that he treated Boromir like his father treated the clandestine Aragorn as Thorongil.
Denethor actually did many things the movie shows him not doing or neglecting. He was VERY competent and mighty in many craft and (even a lore-master to a degree). He had quite alot of mental and “magical” might which is why he could contend with Sauron too without being harmed in there process in any way!
I love the LOTR computer game. Possibly something for Lewis to look into.
Great idea that
The elves who died will be reborn in the elven lands to the west
According to Tolkien
Yes, elves can reincarnate since they're tied to the Earth, but they don't get to pass beyond the Earth, which humans do get to do. Elves are therefore envious of humans getting to essentially be with Eru (God), and humans are envious of elves' immortality. The grass is always greener...
@@rikk319 well said 👍
@@rikk319not all elves go to Valinor. Not many even know it even exists as it’s soooo far back in history that even for many of the other clans it’s a legend
Sadly you’ll miss a great powerful performance by Éowyn’s brother Éomer from the third movie if it continues to be” “theatrical” I know these were recorded 2 years ago. So many just react to the movies in a more freshly current state which allows for a lot more authentic of a reaction I thought you guys weren’t going to upload the rest due to quality issues etc?
Wait till you guy's watch the return of the king the third movie in history to win 11 academy awards its incredable journeys end is near it was awesome at the cinema brilliant
Sean Astin was wonderful in this film, but he was painfully snubbed of an Oscar in Return of the King. Should have been the 12th nod for RotK.
Everyone. This was recorded 2 years ago. Who wants to see him and his now older son react to the extended edition with fresh new eyes after not watching it for so long?? ❤
I really wish they had not done Faramir wrong in the movies. In the books he is so much better. I also wish the movies had the proper ending.
He’s Aragorn level. And Gandalf’s pupil. A Big Big deal. He like his family members are also Númenorean like Aragorn. Just a different family line. Gondor was very different than other men. So making them look like average military of men is just weird to be film wise.
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