Biology of the Arachnids in Star Ship Troopers Explained | Colonization, Entomology and Lore

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Klendathu, Its an ugly planet. Its a bug planet. Its a planet hostile to live as we know it. But even on this barren rock, life has managed to get going and not only that, but they have naturally adapted and have been able to colonize the surrounding planets as a result. When humanity stumbles cross these dangerous beasts, they underestimate them and end up paying high price as a result. But what makes these arachnids such great hunting machines and how did they evolve on such a hostile world? lets discuss that in todays episode!
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  • @RoanokeGaming
    @RoanokeGaming  3 роки тому +955

    Thanks for watching guys! I hope everyone had a great thanksgiving and lets finish out the rest of 2020 the best we can! For anyone interested, heres the link to the fourth channel! new video should be dropping on it tomorrow! ua-cam.com/channels/3rST8TvG4kLFzuHVYHy7Vw.html

    • @SfRoss
      @SfRoss 3 роки тому +3

      Well, feels good to be early here :>. The only good bug it's a dead bug. Also I love this movie :>

    • @wreath626
      @wreath626 3 роки тому +4

      4th channels doing well i see

    • @claytontindell9939
      @claytontindell9939 3 роки тому +11

      Starship troopers is a federation with limited suffrage. It is still a form of democracy. You just have to earn the right to vote through federal service. The only people who get rejected from service, are those who the psychologists deem cannot understand the oath of service.

    • @newmans191
      @newmans191 3 роки тому +4

      The reason why the asteroid hit then it's pretty simple it was relatively close and they just missed it the instead of saying that they didn't see asteroid the whole time they blamed it on the closest living species: edit just saw the whole video 😔

    • @theegggod8070
      @theegggod8070 3 роки тому +1

      Sus

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 3 роки тому +1456

    In the book the amputee actually had perfect mechanical prosthetics. He was told not to wear them to dissuade applicants.

    • @Joseph-xm4gz
      @Joseph-xm4gz 3 роки тому +82

      Why would that dissuade applicants I think see a man without legs would dissuade them a lot more then if they saw robotic legs

    • @geofff.3343
      @geofff.3343 3 роки тому +289

      @@Joseph-xm4gz No one wants to lose their natural limbs. It's subconscious psychology.

    • @krullachief669
      @krullachief669 3 роки тому +276

      @@Joseph-xm4gz It's because of how absolutely mangled he looked without any of the prosthetics. Like, he was missing an eye, both legs, part of his arm, etc. It was to give all applicants a hard reality check on if this is the way they will go in life.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 3 роки тому +191

      @@Joseph-xm4gz Because despite what idioys like to do... The Government is not fascistic. They do in fact, show you how terrible things are in hopes of making sure only people willing to take the risks and are willimg to put yourself in the way of others.
      They're actually a strange attempt at taking Sparta and transplanting it into a modern mindset.

    • @marekmichalski9803
      @marekmichalski9803 3 роки тому +36

      @Dick Balls • 30 years ago about dissuading people from joining. If I saw mechanical prosthetics I would join definitely. Not via cyberpunk hype or anything of this sort but by 14-15 years of skin illness. The flesh is weak ^^
      And about cacti. I cannot keep them alive. I had two exact cacti in one pot. First one became rotten from amount of water and second one dried.

  • @loryndabenson5840
    @loryndabenson5840 3 роки тому +1908

    "Medical tech is so inconsistent in this movie." In the military we call those budget cuts ☺

    • @codynolan3725
      @codynolan3725 3 роки тому +156

      Flesh is replaceable the equipment is not (was the favorite quote we heard)

    • @chuckhoyle1211
      @chuckhoyle1211 3 роки тому +20

      Triage is a thing for scarce resources.

    • @twoscarabsintheswarm9055
      @twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 роки тому +16

      I mean, this is a highly militaristic futuristic state so you'd think they wouldn't cut the militaries budget

    • @literallyglados
      @literallyglados 3 роки тому +17

      @@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 so is america (minus the futuristic) but they cut budgets all the time

    • @twoscarabsintheswarm9055
      @twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 роки тому +24

      @@literallyglados America is
      A. Not holding the entire worlds (and most like multiple hundreds of thousands of worlds) resources
      B. A state based around military (it has a large military but is not ruled by the military)
      C. Not really cutting the budget when in 2020 they spent 778 billion USD on its military, which was 39% of the global military budget (which tallied up to 1.98 trillion USD) and that number went up, from the 718.69 Billion it spent in 2019. It is increasing the budget

  • @natto4now
    @natto4now 3 роки тому +3668

    I like to believe that Roanoke made a video just cause a bug bite him
    To spite that bug

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 роки тому +653

      That's actually true lmao

    • @jackdaalfbrainork6392
      @jackdaalfbrainork6392 3 роки тому +52

      Sounds about right

    • @201doom
      @201doom 3 роки тому +39

      @@RoanokeGaming make sure to do a video if mutant spiders start surging out of the bite.

    • @theegggod8070
      @theegggod8070 3 роки тому +5

      Sus

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 3 роки тому +12

      I think Wasps are the jerks of the animal kingdom

  • @transhumanistgamer8963
    @transhumanistgamer8963 3 роки тому +4118

    Starship Troopers is one of the few movies where an audience can ask "Did the director even read the book?" and the answer has actually been verified as "No." Still a great movie.

    • @dylanchouinard6141
      @dylanchouinard6141 3 роки тому +682

      More like “Director started reading the book. Realized it was a bunch of jingoistic garbage. Then made a movie as a fuck you specifically to the book.”
      Edit: and by making the movie a fuck you to the book, making a much better story than the book

    • @lordpfeiffer8490
      @lordpfeiffer8490 3 роки тому +393

      @@dylanchouinard6141 book is a superior story and i love the book. The movie is a great movie if it didn't have the name starship troopers

    • @Reclusiarch_jakal
      @Reclusiarch_jakal 3 роки тому +87

      @@dylanchouinard6141 yea your a chode dylan the book was gr8 and i always pictured the troopers like jump jet troopers from tiberium sun. awesome novel

    • @abysswalker1562
      @abysswalker1562 3 роки тому +219

      @@lordpfeiffer8490 so you like fascism? You think fascism is a good thing? Because thats all the book was about. It was not a good book by any stretch of the word and the movie was literally a satire of the book.

    • @sillylittleowlguy2392
      @sillylittleowlguy2392 3 роки тому +41

      @@abysswalker1562 literally any kind of authoritarianism is shit.

  • @alistaircraig7849
    @alistaircraig7849 3 роки тому +1044

    The knife thing, disabling the enemies hand so they can't use their weapons, does have a bit of a pay off in the end.. Carmen uses the knife to cut the brain probe off of the brain bug, technically disabling the enemies ability to use a powerful weapon of theirs

    • @ClokworkGremlin
      @ClokworkGremlin 3 роки тому +62

      In the book, the response to the question doesn't even involve a knife. It launches into a lecture from the Sargent about how sometimes lethal force is massive overkill and completely inappropriate when a milder response would be perfectly adequate.

    • @deathkorpswatchmaster2414
      @deathkorpswatchmaster2414 2 роки тому +41

      @@ClokworkGremlin i mean the version of the movie sets the tone of how brutal the training is and how unprepared the mobile infantry at least were at fighting against the bugs.
      Also THE ENEMY CANNOT FIGHT IF YOU DISABLE HIS HAND

    • @THAC0MANIC
      @THAC0MANIC 2 роки тому

      kool story bro i use my other hand or my Big Brain Penor coz Chicks be into dat Tenticle hentai am i right or am i right?

    • @KillerofGods
      @KillerofGods 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@ClokworkGremlin Are you sure? I think they use a knife as an example.
      Like it being quieter and your expected to do whatever they tell you to do, the freeze command being a good example.

    • @theyreoutthere.huntinggear
      @theyreoutthere.huntinggear 2 роки тому +2

      Nice. I never got that reference till u mentioned it. Haha.

  • @bardukfr33k1985
    @bardukfr33k1985 3 роки тому +955

    Just an fyi: the opening scenes are further in the timeline, as it leads directly to the attack where Rico is badly injured. The orbital defense system you referenced a few times as ineffective wasn't established yet. It was made as a direct result of the Buenos Aires attack

    • @davidlee1142
      @davidlee1142 3 роки тому +36

      I noticed that too he should of gotten his facts straight

    • @pernorm7679
      @pernorm7679 3 роки тому +3

      Ohhhhh

    • @thesupported5430
      @thesupported5430 3 роки тому +40

      Well there is a theory that earth did it themselves to rage war with the bugs.

    • @ChuckBerrington
      @ChuckBerrington 3 роки тому +16

      Yeah, as mentioned previously there’s a theory that the plot of the bugs launch asteroids is just a propaganda tool for the government to expand into other regions. Kinda like the gulf of Tonkin incident which started the Vietnam war being completely fake. The Gulf War had the same situation, along with the Iraq War.

    • @nobodybroda3826
      @nobodybroda3826 3 роки тому +10

      Really? I figured the message, since the movie takes the piss out of the military industrial complex that the movie portrays it was showing that they brag and brag how they have the best system for taking out asteroids but missed this one, hell I make the theory that the bugs didn't send the asteroid but was just missed by humanity and we blamed it on bugs.

  • @AwareWolfOnWheels
    @AwareWolfOnWheels 3 роки тому +85

    Starship Troopers is the perfect example of a movie that uses practical FX and CGI in the proper context of delivering the best of each scene.

  • @LoneWolf-kw3ol
    @LoneWolf-kw3ol 3 роки тому +111

    Fun fact:
    The guy who did the CGI on this movie went on to also do the CGI for the Jurassic Park trilogy and is heralded as an absolute genius within the movie community, and it all started in this movie that many people hate or dont know about.
    I for one loved this movie as a kid and still do, thought the sequels were pretty bleh.

    • @LouisLeGros
      @LouisLeGros 3 роки тому +3

      I remember both Jurasic Park & Starship Troopers coming out in Theaters, Starship Troopers was several years later so something doesn't add up with your fun fact.

    • @LoneWolf-kw3ol
      @LoneWolf-kw3ol 3 роки тому +1

      @@LouisLeGros maybe it was the other way around, but i know it was the same guy and if im not mistaken he also helped with Alien

    • @LouisLeGros
      @LouisLeGros 3 роки тому +2

      @@LoneWolf-kw3ol I see that Phil Tippet worked on Starship Troopers & some of the Jurassic Park movies, not sure if he'd be the guy you are talking about.

    • @Vscustomprinting
      @Vscustomprinting 3 роки тому +1

      Come to think of it- I have yet to hear or see one person say they don't like this movie.. and I saw it in theatres too

    • @LoneWolf-kw3ol
      @LoneWolf-kw3ol 3 роки тому

      @@Vscustomprinting ive been watching this movie since i was a wee lad, plenty of people dont like it but for the same reasons, "it glorifies communism" "it has no depth" "it didnt even have any noteable actors/awards/press coverage" "the sequels were so bad, why would i watch the original"
      Basically, the only people ive met who dont like it know nothing about it/dont like anything that doesnt have a shirtless jason momoa or john cena acting like every 90s tuff guy jock ever

  • @painandsorrowcards
    @painandsorrowcards 2 роки тому +593

    Several people die in training in the book. Also the person missing limbs at the recruitment desk is used to discourage people from enlisting. He has robotic limbs that look and act like regular limbs but at the time the main character enlist the military is actively discouraging it.

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 2 роки тому +82

      Yep. Its an aspect from the book that the director didnt even know about because he didn't finish it.

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie 2 роки тому +53

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Whoever wrote the script did, as a lot of stuff snuck in via dialog.
      But obviously the director framed it in the way he wanted, but even then the way its described in universe by the characters and how the plot goes, doesn't always jibe with how the director intended to to portray things.

    • @JoyOfTacos
      @JoyOfTacos Рік тому +52

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzThe film version of scene is presented basically the same way, just not as an outwardly deliberate deterrent. The clerks confidence when he says “mobile infantry made me the man I am today” followed by a zoom on his missing limbs is one of the many deliberate satires of fascism and militarism in the film, because contrary to what you believe Verhoeven isn’t an idiot. He didn’t finish the book because he thought it was fascist trash and had come to his own vision for the adaptation.

    • @buddhapunch2486
      @buddhapunch2486 Рік тому

      @@JoyOfTacos Him reading part of the book and thinking it was fascist is actual proof that Verhoeven is an idiot.

    • @garyuu2003
      @garyuu2003 11 місяців тому +4

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Didn't finish it? I don't think he even started it.

  • @misterbitey2107
    @misterbitey2107 3 роки тому +72

    Okay, regarding the asteroid defense system because I see it mentioned several times and it's becoming a pet peeve:
    That asteroid defense system was built AFTER the attack on Buenos Aires. The opening sequence which mentions it takes place after Rico finishes boot camp and they signal this in two ways - first by showing Rico getting injured in the opening sequence and then showing him just fine in school indicating that this was before he enlisted, and secondly when they cut to the invasion of Klendathu and you see the reporter saying the same lines from the beginning. Like, this isn't even something where you have to squint or really think about it: the movie does take the time to signal the asteroid defense thing was built after the attack, not before.
    Of course, how they managed to put such a megastructure together in a period of, at most, months is a huge question mark. As far as distance goes... yeah, that's something where there is nothing in text or subtext that would explain that unless they clearly established the bugs having FTL capabilities that allow them to transport rocks close to their targets (which would create new plot holes). I mean, given how they establish repeatedly how the media sequences are wholly unreliable (events on screen frequently contradict the story the media cuts tell and only occasionally line up or have useful information), and that anybody with even a basic understanding of the light speed limit would see the problem here, and how the movie's creators were notoriously anti-fascist and intended us to view the Federation as being positively absurd, I can absolutely see them arranging a false-flag attack that kills millions to sell to their people on a war that is just a blatant land grab for living space they don't really need.

    • @boe5930
      @boe5930 3 роки тому +1

      or just acpt that it is a movie and nothing make's sens:P

    • @Djm95454
      @Djm95454 3 роки тому +12

      It is Heavily implied that the fascist government in charge manufactured the asteroid incident as a justification for going to war

    • @liamzakhaev
      @liamzakhaev 3 роки тому +4

      @@boe5930 like how we have to accept your terrible spelling?

    • @RenegadeSparks
      @RenegadeSparks 3 роки тому +1

      @Vulkan Lives Cope.

    • @araaraaura1887
      @araaraaura1887 3 роки тому +8

      @@Djm95454 That's a complete fan theory that has absolutely no support in the film itself.

  • @meleefox3218
    @meleefox3218 3 роки тому +43

    First Predator, then Tremors, and now Starship Troopers. You are helping me relive and understand movies that traumatized me as a child, but now fascinate me as an adult. Thank you very much for all of your hard work and research, Roanoke.

  • @jamiedutton7257
    @jamiedutton7257 3 роки тому +230

    It always bugged me when Dizzy is running back to the ship and gets caught by the bug, if Rico hadn't shouted her name she would have made it back to the ship.

    • @stopaskingforrealnames3853
      @stopaskingforrealnames3853 3 роки тому +23

      Not likely. Warriors outrun humans with ease.

    • @mrpumperknuckles1631
      @mrpumperknuckles1631 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah in the story the bugs were able to run as fast if not faster than horses...

    • @GrySgtBubba
      @GrySgtBubba 3 роки тому +8

      Somewhat true. Honestly, if he had just started shooting it rather than yelling, causing her to slow and turn, THEN begin shooting it...the bug may have slowed or even started waving off as being lit up. Which woulda gotten her attention to the dangers behind her and allowed her time to flee or light it up as well. But, that wasn't in script sadly. I wish they had followed a tad more on the Roughneck Chronicles than the book.

    • @stopaskingforrealnames3853
      @stopaskingforrealnames3853 3 роки тому +1

      @@GrySgtBubba Tbf, roughnecks didnt air until later-and its style only really works as a show. I hope that the films and Terran Command garner enough attention for a Roughnecks reboot. 'Lost patrol: Starship Troopers Chronicles".

    • @soxpeewee
      @soxpeewee 3 роки тому +3

      It was intentional. He didn't want to be stuck with her emotional needs

  • @SpearM3064
    @SpearM3064 3 роки тому +114

    Actually, Roanoke, if I remember correctly, the movie starts at the "current day" and then does a long *flashback* to basic training. So the "planetary defense system that they were bragging about" wasn't built (or at least, wasn't completed) until *after* the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires. Now, whether or not you can build something that size in just a few months is an entirely different plot hole. Of course, I may *not* be remembering correctly, in which case I could be totally wrong.

    • @jamerv86
      @jamerv86 3 роки тому +4

      In either case, it can’t cover all point of the planet. Though considering the speed one should be able to detect the rock coming through space and they have ships around earth and other that could just jump and intercept even without the moon system which is still mostly a space station just with weapons mounted. So there should still be orbiting stations around earth with weapons, like in Halo.

    • @dr.jackbright9297
      @dr.jackbright9297 3 роки тому +11

      i had actually heard a theory that humanity bombed themselves with the asteroids to build patriotism so they can declare war on the bugs with no public outcry.

    • @cdr_clutch8711
      @cdr_clutch8711 3 роки тому +2

      Yup

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 3 роки тому +6

      You are not mistaken at all. The movie starts with the planetary defense system, then goes live to the invasion of big K, then goes back one year.
      The moon base could have been in place, the astroid detection system as well (remember, we see them as a threat today already, and want to look for them) just the means to blow them up were added. So this might be less conspiracy confirming then it looks
      Also, what destroyed Zegema Beach? The Roughnecks were there before Rico joined them. What fight went on there?

    • @forrestpenrod2294
      @forrestpenrod2294 3 роки тому

      Building something quickly isn’t a plot hole. If slow construction speeds were a vital part of the plot only for them to build something quickly with no explanation, that might be a plot hole.

  • @Inferno144
    @Inferno144 3 роки тому +391

    I know the movie was a commentary, but I was here for the bugs. Nice video on one of my favorite movies, Roanoke.
    Edit: I merely mentioned the movie was a commentary, ya'll need to chill. I really don't care about the commentary.

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 роки тому +38

      Glad you enjoyed it haha

    • @Inferno144
      @Inferno144 3 роки тому +29

      @@RoanokeGaming I'm dreading the part where you cover the Imposters. Thats my worst nightmare. Something alive, like that, crawling INTO you. Theres no defense either, once its in, you're done.

    • @k.t.1641
      @k.t.1641 3 роки тому +12

      A lot of these “commentary” books/movies etc fail or get sucked into their own lore too much. Making it less commentary and more intriguing and “cool”.

    • @Inferno144
      @Inferno144 3 роки тому +7

      @Vulkan Lives Never said it was a good commentary, did I?

    • @robertsmalls2293
      @robertsmalls2293 3 роки тому +20

      @Vulkan Lives Yeah, this movie actually had the inverse message from what I’m guessing was intended (fascism bad) in reality the message of the movie is (military government: effective) at least to me. I saw it as a pretty good system. Didn’t ever get the impression of totalitarianism, or fascism. In a cinematic Universe with such hostile aliens it’s no surprise the human race would adopt a very bigoted stance against the bugs. You see Ender’s Game actually did this pretty well because the whole war against the bugs in that movie was started by an accident, they tried to harvest Earth & didn’t realize anyone was there until quite a few people were dead. They left in peace once they realized the mistake but humanity adopted a bitter hatred of their species, and pursued them into their own systems eventually leading to the “victory by total genocide” outcome we see at the end of the film. Starship Troopers never paints the bugs as “misunderstood” or anything else. They are portrayed as a ravenous, ever-expanding species of extremely hostile insects. Therefore the human supremacy is not only justified, it also serves a valuable purpose by giving humanity a common enemy, therefore uniting Earth for a “greater” purpose.

  • @Raven_Frame
    @Raven_Frame 3 роки тому +84

    I believe the asteroid defense system was made after the attack. Remember the movie starts with the Klendathu drop and then goes back by a year.

    • @robert04872
      @robert04872 3 роки тому +12

      I just assumed the Federation actually did it and pinned it on the bugs.
      The whole movie has a kind of fascist feel to it throughout.

    • @randomtechpriest
      @randomtechpriest 3 роки тому +1

      @Dick Balls • 30 years ago True

    • @RequiemPoete
      @RequiemPoete 3 роки тому +1

      @@robert04872 I mean that's more realistic than bugs launching a rock from the other side of the Galaxy.

    • @robert04872
      @robert04872 3 роки тому +1

      @Dick Balls • 30 years ago "They're doomed. Yes. But there is grace in their failings. A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It's a privilege to be among them."
      -The Vision, Avengers: Age Of Ultron
      The most destructive and horrific of nature's creations are the most beautiful: Stars, Black Holes, Quasars, Volcanoes, Supernovas, Tsunamis, Hurricanes. All look beautiful from a distance...but are terrifying events of pure chaos in their heart. Should a Star not exist simply because it does nothing but burn and destroy? If they didn't we would not be here. Should a Black Hole not exist because it does nothing but consume? We have every right to exist and by the law of nature we do...we owe it to ourselves to find out why...or die trying...or at least make a reason why.

    • @hallowedsiren0224
      @hallowedsiren0224 3 роки тому

      @reaven Thank you I was thinking the same thing

  • @Whiteknight-xg2pq
    @Whiteknight-xg2pq 3 роки тому +470

    Yes finally!! Remember kids the only good bug is a dead bug.

  • @somedude4805
    @somedude4805 3 роки тому +590

    "Skipping over the shower scene, I know you're crushed..."
    Yeah, I was.

  • @glue3850
    @glue3850 3 роки тому +303

    As long as spiders don't bother me I won't bother them, it's kinda like a deal we have

    • @hakonkvande6767
      @hakonkvande6767 3 роки тому +50

      Stay away from my body and you can live here and eat all the bugs you can catch, is my deal with spiders.

    • @missfortunez3737
      @missfortunez3737 3 роки тому +1

      @@hakonkvande6767 same

    • @vbgvbg1133
      @vbgvbg1133 3 роки тому +2

      Big dpider fluffy, nice for crawl on hand

    • @mariobadia4553
      @mariobadia4553 3 роки тому +1

      @@vbgvbg1133 lol

    • @jimboringo9958
      @jimboringo9958 3 роки тому +1

      I’ll take it arachnotrons bother you a lot then

  • @FNPetersen
    @FNPetersen 3 роки тому +130

    Granted it's a different species from "the Bugs," but in the beginning they did dissect an alien beetle. They specifically removed lungs from that beetle, implying a cardiopulmonary system something like tetrapods on Earth. Therefore, large arthropod-analogues having a circulatory system is an established part of the movie. I feel that you're biological analysis is on point. "They're aliens" can establish that they have a circulatory system, but it can't make them magic.

    • @maxcarrasco260
      @maxcarrasco260 2 роки тому +6

      Those beetles are seen when the platoon was sent to that settlement, Rico notices them in the chow hall. Also those same beetles are seen when Carmen and the other guy, encounter the brain bug

    • @chrisdefresne3235
      @chrisdefresne3235 2 роки тому +4

      The dissected bug was one of the workers.

    • @kismethappel7811
      @kismethappel7811 2 роки тому +7

      Those are arachnid bug-types, they're called Chariot Bugs. Small-scale workers/tunnelers, mine-clearers and mobility-systems for Brain Bugs. Mostly harmless but their bites they can slice through flesh, bone and ballistic armor with ease (they bite through stone and ore, it's understandable).

  • @naturalist4life396
    @naturalist4life396 2 роки тому +304

    8:22- I think it's implied that the bugs had nothing to do with the meteor; they just used it as an excuse to invade.

    • @patrickflying17
      @patrickflying17 2 роки тому +60

      They're mirroring what happened in the book. but due to the way they portray the arachnid empire in the movie you lose the context the bugs are an inteligent space faring empire that decided to bomb their biggest competitor after getting a tip off of earth's precise coordinates by a third faction that was questioning on who to ally with.

    • @SirGriffin87
      @SirGriffin87 Рік тому +28

      You need to rewatch the movie. It's not implied, at all. The movie does scenes chronologically out of order. The bugs threw the meteor BEFORE the defense system existed.

    • @miraigond8412
      @miraigond8412 Рік тому +14

      @@SirGriffin87 it's not outright said, but I'm pretty sure even the director knew the timing of the asteroid didn't make any sense if it was intentional.

    • @wiseguy01
      @wiseguy01 Рік тому +31

      @@SirGriffin87 I'm guessing physics is a complete mystery to you lol. It would literally take millions of years for that asteroid to reach Earth.

    • @wickedwrite6271
      @wickedwrite6271 Рік тому +8

      @@wiseguy01 Yes it would take that long for the steroid to get there, but that also doesn't change the fact that the implication of the false flag does not exist, and for explanation on the asteroid attack I would refer you to Flyboy's reply, just like in the book it was indeed the bugs that attacked first it's just in the movie the Arachnids don't have all their nifty tech, therefore we get a yadda yadda'd asteroid attack.

  • @kyleott7758
    @kyleott7758 2 роки тому +13

    Love how it's definitely not a kids movie but anyone a fan of this most likely watched it growing up as a kid

  • @buggyboy2849
    @buggyboy2849 3 роки тому +52

    Many crustaceans (especially decapods) have partially closed circulatory system (arteries, strong heart etc.) which actually performs similarly to small mammals (mainly rodents). So yes an arthropod can breathe oxygen efficiently even with a semi-closed circulatory system!
    As for how Klendathu has life and an atmosphere, in some bonus info by the movie team it's implied the Bugs have a fungus or at least fungoid farm underground (like ants and termites) for food, I assume these fungi also produce oxygen. It's also implied the planet is barren because the Bugs pretty much devoured all organic matter aside from the fungus.

    • @kennethferland5579
      @kennethferland5579 3 роки тому +3

      Fungi don't produce Oxygen though, they are decomposers that consume oxygen to digest other materials, essentially no different then animal life.

    • @buggyboy2849
      @buggyboy2849 3 роки тому +2

      @@kennethferland5579 That's why I said fungoid, it behaves like fungus but might be bacteria colony or even more close to plants, what I'm saying is that it's a farmable organic substance that the Bugs use as food much like how termites and ants utilize fungus farms.

    • @TS-jm7jm
      @TS-jm7jm 3 роки тому +2

      @@buggyboy2849 most oxygen on earth is produced by bacteria actually, its also how we get the trace elements our bodies and plants and animals need out of the ground, bacteria mines that stuff atom by atom in a recycling system, otherwise we would slowly deplete our trace element supply as it oxidises and becomes rock.

    • @buggyboy2849
      @buggyboy2849 3 роки тому

      @@TS-jm7jm Yup! I'm guessing the movie team was thinking of this but went with fungi since it's more insect appropriate.

  • @Loudman._
    @Loudman._ 7 місяців тому +5

    A game called Helldivers 2 just came out about a week ago… this movie as a whole has been referenced sooo many times 😂

    • @helldrew6693
      @helldrew6693 7 місяців тому

      I was just about to say who's here because of Helldiver's

  • @fidelismiles7439
    @fidelismiles7439 3 роки тому +33

    3:50 actually in the novel he later comes across Rico outside the recruitment center and tells him:
    "Relax, boy. I don't have to do the after hours horror show, and I don't.
    ("The man was wearing civilian clothes, walking on two legs and had two arms.")

  • @loub.redcap3524
    @loub.redcap3524 Рік тому +18

    The opening of the movie takes place a while after the first asteroid hit Buenos Ares in the chronology. They say the bugs sent "another" meteor and then cut to the invasion of Klenathu and eventually Johnny getting wounded. When the first meteor hits he's still in training. Aside from that, good catch on the meteor taking that long to cross the galaxy. They would have to shove it through a wormhole or something and we don't even know if those exist.

    • @TheCthultist
      @TheCthultist 7 місяців тому +5

      That bit about the sheer distance and time it would have to travel are what makes the argument that Earth’s government probably sent the astroid itself as a false-flag to kick off a more passionate recruiting scheme for the invasion make so much sense.

    • @shoulderpyro
      @shoulderpyro 7 місяців тому

      @@TheCthultist And that false flag attack makes sense as to why the asteroid defense system didnt kick in. Why would they shoot down their own asteroid?
      they probably knocked it out of orbit from Saturn, which while still pretty damn far away is a lot more plausible to hit Earth than Klendathu's bugs firing one off. ...And on top of that, the bugs dont attack unless they are attacked first, which implies they dont even know (or didnt know) where Earth was until Klendathu was invaded in response to the asteroid strike

    • @ascendedraven1934
      @ascendedraven1934 7 місяців тому

      ​@shoulderpyro I haven't read the books, but in the animated series Roughnecks planet "P" is Pluto and is the first place the humans encountered the bugs. In fact, they initially thought they were native to Pluto. If that's the case it's much more plausible that bug plasma from Pluto dislodged one our systems asteroids and sent it towards earth.

    • @TheStrubble1
      @TheStrubble1 7 місяців тому

      Another tidbit about the asteroid and defense. When Carmen is shown flying the shuttle off the moon to the defense ring. It is still under construction as she heads through the center of it and out.

  • @firebornliger
    @firebornliger 3 роки тому +42

    The knife training scene is a perfect example of the difference in purpose of the authors of the book and the movie.
    The movie is contemptuous of the type of people it depicts.
    While in the book, the drill sergeant goes into a lecture on degrees of force and their purpose.
    Also, in the book, they didn't do away with Democracy, but universal franchise Democracy. Reducing the franchise to those who earn the power.

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 3 роки тому +9

      SGT Charles Zim, p. 61; responding to Ted Hendrick's question on the purpose of knife-throwing.
      "If you wanted to teach a baby a lesson, would you cut its head off? Of course not. You'd paddle it. There can be circumstances when it's just as foolish to hit an enemy city with an H-bomb as it would be to spank a baby with an axe. War is not violence and killing, pure and simple; war is controlled violence, for a purpose. The purpose of war is to support your government's decisions by force. The purpose is never to kill the enemy just to be killing him...but to make him do what you want him to do. Not killing...but controlled and purposeful violence. But it's not your business or mine to decide the purpose of the control. It's never a soldier's business to decide when or where or how-or why-he fights; that belongs to the statesmen and the generals. The statesmen decide why and how much; the generals take it from there and tell us where and when and how. We supply the violence; other people-'older and wiser heads,' as they say-supply the control. Which is as it should be."

    • @voilvelev6775
      @voilvelev6775 3 роки тому +2

      A society based on the constant need of an ''enemy'' deserves nothing, but contempt.

    • @firebornliger
      @firebornliger 3 роки тому +2

      @@voilvelev6775
      There is never a need of enemies.
      There is always a constant glut of supply on that end. You can make it in their best interest to not be openly hostile, but you will never eliminate the future possibilities of hostilities.
      Nature is a war of all against all. The prey in an arms race with its predator. The predator in a war for territory against its species.
      Resources in the universe may be effectively infinite, but access to resources is a growing but still zero-sum game for which any group which seeks to survive must be willing to defend what is theirs. Lest others take it, and then defend it against its original holders.
      That said: the book's civilization is not built on such a need. There are many routes to citizenship, the book just follows the career of one soldier during a period of war with an alien species. (A number of them, actually, as the book starts with a raid on a species allied with the bugs.)
      The only people who think it is are exactly the type of people who should be kept away from power at all costs. Like Verhoeven.
      Further, it is not the society that Verhoeven is contemptuous of, it is soldiers, patriots, and those willing to sacrifice to maintain a society.

    • @drewjohnson-85
      @drewjohnson-85 3 роки тому +2

      @@firebornliger you’re right but you’re over complicating it, the book Federation is a government where political power is reserved, not for an aristocrat class or the loudest voice in a room, but for those that are willing to sacrifice to make a safe and free society, watch Arch’s video on that to see the pros and cons, by trying to say that is fascist while not even bothering to put actual examples of fascism in the governmental system Verhoeven basically says that the noble aspects of human character patriotism self-sacrifice etc. are fascist, in other words nobility of spirit is fascist; this is the stumbling block that keeps it from being a great movie, it switches back And forth from being a movie about heroes who do heroic things, to telling you to hate these people without giving you a reason to, so to enjoy the movie you have to ignore one or the other portrayal.

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 2 роки тому +85

    I'm thinking that their planet's ecosystem is based upon them. They eat their dead, fresh alien meat, and dirt while doing something similar to plants (photosynthesis) but instead of eating light, they consume heat to do the same job. Kill all the bugs on a bug planet and you kill that planet's only participating member of their ecosystem. Look at the various things bugs on Earth do, becoming the only factor in a heated ecosystem for atmospheric things as long as they are large and dominating the planet isn't much of a reach. I mean, they can fart plasma into space... having a caste that farts out oxygen is not an insane idea.

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  2 роки тому +25

      thats actually a really interesting idea

    • @yoboikamil525
      @yoboikamil525 2 роки тому +12

      Imagine being born and your only purpose is to occasionally fart a cloud of oxygen into the air

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 2 роки тому +14

      @@yoboikamil525 "Stop talking sh^t about my purpose! Without our farts, we all die!"
      But, then again, they are born into being fanatically loyal to their purpose and loving it.
      If they were born with minds like ours, it'd be like that butter-passing robot on Rick & Morty.

    • @yoboikamil525
      @yoboikamil525 2 роки тому +11

      @@That80sGuy1972 imagine gaining sentience and realizing that the whole reason everything is alive is because you occasionally fart out oxygen

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 2 роки тому +2

      @@yoboikamil525 I just did imagine that... the first part of my previous comment... you know, the wee bit of a joke.

  • @ryanhampson673
    @ryanhampson673 3 роки тому +66

    If you haven’t read the book..DO IT!....It was written in the late 50’s (if I remember correctly) and predicted tons of sci fi elements. Power armor, heads up displays etc...Also the arachnids in the boom look more like earth spiders and they had their own ships and underground cities so they have tech in the book...Also there’s a third race called “the skinnies” that are allied to the arachnids at first..The main character burns down a room full of skinny kids with a flamethrower...The book is a little more hardcore.

  • @CougarMacDowall
    @CougarMacDowall 3 роки тому +541

    What is that sweet techno beat playing at around 8 min?

  • @unscwarsaw1497
    @unscwarsaw1497 3 роки тому +45

    “I do not need a wall, I will evolve armor. I do not need a weapon, I will evolve claws."
    "The toolmakers might create something stronger than your armor and claws."
    "Their tools stay the same. I collect. I change.”
    -DEHAKA AND SARAH KERRIGAN (Starcraft2)

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref 3 роки тому +1

      He fails to understand technology. Technology also changes.

    • @dudemanbroguy3464
      @dudemanbroguy3464 3 роки тому

      @@ODDnanref yeah technology is kin to evolution, it’s always advancing past what becomes absolute. Without war on earth, a lot of our advances in technology might not have happened.

  • @outlawtaylor3
    @outlawtaylor3 3 роки тому +24

    When I first watch this movie my dad told me that while working in Wyoming and Montana he helped the production crew with the hydraulic bugs. They had major problems with them but no one there knew much about fixing the problem. My dad (with at the time 15 years in the oilfield) told them how to fix them. So the crew actually offered him a job but he turned it down

    • @SamTehGr8
      @SamTehGr8 2 роки тому

      Sounds like a moron when you put it like this. Could've been a great career boost.

  • @thegamingdad7637
    @thegamingdad7637 7 місяців тому +10

    Who's here after purchasing HELLDIVERS 2 😅

    • @Durrtyboy
      @Durrtyboy 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm doing my part

    • @Lunesta_XCIII
      @Lunesta_XCIII 6 місяців тому +1

      Reporting for democracy!!

  • @derekvandewarker4211
    @derekvandewarker4211 2 роки тому +42

    The armor and helmet still have a purpose. They still need to be worried about shrapnel, also the helmet is good for falls to minimize head injuries.

    • @ZeroNumerous
      @ZeroNumerous 7 місяців тому +2

      That's what helmets and armor do in our modern army. Shrapnel and ricochets.

    • @bencurran3204
      @bencurran3204 7 місяців тому

      And in the books whilst much more heavily armoured, it probably would've been more useful as they have other races appearing like the 'skinnies'

  • @serosen3950
    @serosen3950 Рік тому +1

    if you payed attention, the astroid defence system wasnt built untill after the Buenos Aires asteroid strike. the scene in the begining is a flash forward alongside the video of Rico on the bug planet from the POV of the camera.

  • @ahel4523
    @ahel4523 3 роки тому +4

    In the book the recruiter is specifically placed there without prosthetics and Johnny sees the recruiter with his prosthetics afterwards where the recruiter admits that his only there to make sure people really want to sign up.

  • @javajeff714
    @javajeff714 3 роки тому +21

    The Arachnids have some of the best alien bug design in movie history If I would say

    • @rommdan2716
      @rommdan2716 3 роки тому

      Yeah I really wish they WIN at the end.

    • @axmoylotl
      @axmoylotl 3 роки тому

      antlion hl2

    • @welkingunther5417
      @welkingunther5417 3 роки тому +2

      They're both cool and very effectively sell how dangerous they are.

    • @ChocorocK
      @ChocorocK 3 роки тому

      @@welkingunther5417 Watched the movie when i was 7.
      I was scared of going into open areas, from the scenes where they tore people apart.

  • @liliththesolarexalted2206
    @liliththesolarexalted2206 3 роки тому +25

    I feel like trying to read up on the old Starship Troopers RPG (which combines elements of the Book, Movie, and old TV series together) might help to better understand the bugs and how they can be a threat to humanity, and lob an asteroid at Earth. I personally always thought that they used the 'Bug Ships' (which are pretty much just the bug answer to Space Whales) from the show to grab an asteroid and either redirect it, or carry it to the Sol system and let it go, firing it randomly at Earth. Plus with multiple Brainbugs working together maybe they can do the calculations needed to strike at Earth from that kind of distance.

    • @Strawberrymilkdrink
      @Strawberrymilkdrink 3 роки тому +2

      Your missing the "billions of years of light speed travel" part unless they can warp a space rock they arent doing to the earth before the sun can consume it

    • @liliththesolarexalted2206
      @liliththesolarexalted2206 3 роки тому

      @@Strawberrymilkdrink Good point. I was about to suggest the ship picked up the asteroid and then moved at FTL before letting it go but we don't really see much evidence of that, and the rock might not survive the trip.

    • @Strawberrymilkdrink
      @Strawberrymilkdrink 3 роки тому +1

      @@liliththesolarexalted2206 not to mention the ship bug wouldn't survive without some form of energy shield and generate thrust to get it to light speed very quickly then your just asking why aren't they full frontal attacking the humans

    • @liliththesolarexalted2206
      @liliththesolarexalted2206 3 роки тому

      @@Strawberrymilkdrink Well at the least they do have plasma engines (of a sort), the plasma bugs can fire up into space so its not that difficult to imagine the large ship bug having a similar mechanism for its engines. Though yeah i cant see how they have FTL unless its space magic.

    • @mullerpotgieter
      @mullerpotgieter 3 роки тому +4

      @@Strawberrymilkdrink That literally happens in the movie. Izzy pilots her ship at the edge of Sol, where a meteor gets warped in out of nowhere. Taking out their comms and hitting Earth

  • @ZharMemedaddyRen
    @ZharMemedaddyRen 3 роки тому +12

    My actual favorite movie. thank you for covering this franchise

  • @tmcm8159
    @tmcm8159 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for addressing the asteroid scene, always had a problem with that bit for the same reasons

    • @TheNavigator4552
      @TheNavigator4552 7 місяців тому +1

      I like to think the military let it happen for an excuse to go to war. You'd be surprised with how realistic that sounds

  • @DarkVeghetta
    @DarkVeghetta 3 роки тому +21

    3:47 You're missing the point, as did the movie. In the book, that same clerk walks home after his day's done (he's also far less pleasant to all applicants, minus the women, as those are always in demand for the navy), but for his job, he takes off his leg prosthetics. This is designed to weed out weak-willed applicants and is essentially the first test in a long series of tests to determine if said person has what it takes to wield political authority.
    Note: They absolutely can regrow body parts (as seen later in the movie), but it's more expensive than using cybernetic prosthetics and would undermine the job said clerk has.

  • @ObsidianOctopus19
    @ObsidianOctopus19 7 місяців тому +2

    Just coming here to say you should take a look at Helldivers.

  • @BanditFlashpoint
    @BanditFlashpoint Рік тому +1

    I remember watching this one as a kid. Now they finally have a game that I've waited for a long time!!

  • @drunken-master7904
    @drunken-master7904 3 роки тому +5

    Bye the way, in the book the drill sargent from the sign up has two robo legs. He didn't wear them on his job to scare people away from signing up. Outside of his job he is a pretty normal person with his protease

  • @theangrysuchomimus5163
    @theangrysuchomimus5163 2 роки тому +2

    23:15 technically the O2 level needed to sustain the ginormous arthropods of the carboniferous dropped at the end of the carboniferous. So the permian had much smaller bugs and the dominant lifeforms were stem mammals.
    Just a technicality, I still get your point.

  • @Druidoftheyew
    @Druidoftheyew 3 роки тому +8

    the beginning about the asteroid defense system was taken place after the bug attack. its in the future start then falls back to show how we got there

  • @Strawberrymilkdrink
    @Strawberrymilkdrink 3 роки тому +8

    Me at the basic training section: why is the live ammo section in the middle of the barraks?? You can see the living area is all around them during the scene Your military controls the planet you'd think they could have separate spot for that

  • @adamhebert5365
    @adamhebert5365 3 роки тому +4

    "Just breathe Nitrogen, XD Roanoke dumb"
    *Best line of the video*
    Awesome vid. Love Starship Troopers.

  • @8076A
    @8076A 3 роки тому +12

    Apparently the movie was nothing like the books, with the books having powered exoframes for the infantry that gave an individual trooper a shit load of protection, strength boosting, and weaponry. Or at least that's what I've heard, and they were apparently small man-sized suits not that nonsense from the 3rd film.

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 3 роки тому +1

      also everyone says its fascist its not you only get your citizenship and thus the right to vote and hold office after a few years of community service basically... other than that you would have all other rights... and in the book only 2% of citizens earn their citizenship via military service...

  • @YuYuBunnyVTuber
    @YuYuBunnyVTuber 3 роки тому +5

    Hi Roanoke! Could you do a video on the ELS (Extraterrestrial Living-metal Shape-shifter) lifeform/alien from Mobile Suit Gundam 00 The Movie A wakening of the Trailblazer?
    The movie shows great details of what they do and their behaviors before getting in contact with humans. I haven't really seen anyone explained or done a video about it. Thank you so much for making interesting videos like these!

  • @darthdeadpool9802
    @darthdeadpool9802 3 роки тому +17

    The animated series has more info on the bugs and more variety in it species it called roughnecks the star ship troops chronicles way more info on the bug and closer to the book

  • @HutaToota
    @HutaToota 6 місяців тому +1

    Love that this popped up now given the current helldivers rush

  • @Lakefront_Khan
    @Lakefront_Khan 3 роки тому +62

    Fun fact: the director didn't actually read the book.

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 3 роки тому +21

      Well... he read maybe the first ten pages, and then set out to satirize militarism, fascism, and military rule by featuring bombastic displays of nationalism as well as news reports that are intensely xenophobic and propagandistic. (The book is often stated to promote fascism, but Heinlein *fought* the fascists in World War II... if you accused him of being a fascist, you'd get a black eye. He claimed to be libertarian, but in the 50s... when he wrote the book... he did believe a strong world government was the only way to avoid mutual nuclear annihilation.)

    • @sporkwitch
      @sporkwitch 3 роки тому +26

      @@SpearM3064 Verhoeven himself said he didn't and wouldn't read the book. There's also nothing remotely fascist about it, and even what's in the movie disproves the claim that it's a fascist system. Business is independent from government, people can speak out against the government without repercussion, just to name to huge ones that are completely antithetical to fascism.

    • @IamOutOfNames
      @IamOutOfNames 3 роки тому +18

      @@sporkwitch It's what Hollywood thinks fascism is; militaristic nationalism with xenophobia as cherry on the top. They have no idea what fascist political system would be like so of course they can't present anything like it in movies.

    • @sporkwitch
      @sporkwitch 3 роки тому +3

      @@IamOutOfNames Fair, though also needs to be pointed out that Starship Troopers doesn't fit that bill either. Whole lot of writing about exactly that (alliances made, the raid on the Skinnies being with the goal of getting them to realize it's better to work with us than with the bugs against us; "you wouldn't spank a baby with an axe,"; etc.)

    • @sporkwitch
      @sporkwitch 3 роки тому +5

      @Amos Allender yes, that was the director's intent, but he only succeeded in terms of imagery, not politics, systems, rights, or literally anything other than some cosmetic nazi references.

  • @BlastMyAsh
    @BlastMyAsh 7 місяців тому +6

    Play helldivers 2, thank me later

  • @FurryEskimo
    @FurryEskimo 3 роки тому +60

    I don’t have all the details, but I remember there’s a scene where the bugs tell us that they are dead set on galactic human extinction. Maybe the humans did attack just for resources, it’s hard to tell, but the bugs also seem Extremely hostile.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 2 роки тому +8

      How do we know the bugs are extremely hostile and it wasn’t them believing humans are incapable of peace. At the start the teach talked about how strength and violence was the only way, the bugs would know thats how humanity in this time thought so negotiation would just be a waste of time.

    • @LUFFY070
      @LUFFY070 2 роки тому

      The bugs attacked first, they are Houston acting on pure instinct, obviously human extinction is the only way to them

    • @BigMikeMcBastard
      @BigMikeMcBastard 2 роки тому +14

      Nah, even the director said it's deliberately a satire of fascism and the humans are the bad guys. It's from the same director who did Robocop -- also a satire. It isn't an accident that the humans in the movie dress like Nazis.

    • @LUFFY070
      @LUFFY070 2 роки тому +30

      @@BigMikeMcBastard the director is a dummy, he didn't even read the books, tried to make a satire of fascism, failed spectacularly at that. Just pro tip: a fascist state doesn't incorporate the press in their battle and doesn't let them broadcast their troops being massacred... It also doesn't let people live outside of the "State" (letting people live free outside of politics).
      The humans didn't attack first (except if you think that the federation provoked the attack on buenos aires because some Mormon settlers went to a planet against the advice of the federation (who did not forbid it like a fascist state would) and were killed by the bugs) and are completely justified in taking revenge for the absolute massacre the bugs inflicted on the human population.

    • @HudsonHawk98
      @HudsonHawk98 2 роки тому

      @@LUFFY070 why wouldn’t a fascist state incorporate the press into battle? It’s not like they’d foolishly let them broadcast it live lmao, they probably just take what footage they want and cut out the rest, there’s this thing called editing and they would have known about that for centuries

  • @creepycraiyons3519
    @creepycraiyons3519 Рік тому +1

    Ace and Rico are the bromance we all needed in the nineties

  • @BBBHuey
    @BBBHuey 3 роки тому +8

    In regards to the asteroids, one could argue that the Brain Bugs grew smart enough to find a way to send space rocks across the galaxy within a short amount of time.

  • @acrocki
    @acrocki 3 роки тому +26

    The bugs never planned the asteroid It was just a reason for them to go to war. Its no a plot hole but in fact they wanted a reason to get the poeple wanting revenge. They knew it was coming

    • @terryhale7620
      @terryhale7620 3 роки тому

      I always felt that cause they new about them before the war

    • @Legs05
      @Legs05 3 роки тому

      Yup never miss the opportunity to make use of a tragedy especially when your a major fascist society

    • @disbeafakename167
      @disbeafakename167 3 роки тому +1

      @@Legs05 you don't know what facism is, any more than the director of this movie does. It's really a disservice to the author.

    • @terryhale7620
      @terryhale7620 3 роки тому

      @@Legs05 right it was a perfect excuse

    • @Legs05
      @Legs05 3 роки тому

      @Vulkan Lives dude them movie is a satirical recruitment video its a satire of a fascist society and yes Paul Verhoeven KNOWS fascism since he grew up in nazi occupied Holland

  • @Yikes123
    @Yikes123 3 роки тому +4

    Alright so when I found you Roanoke, I had the ability to change my name from cringe. Unfortunately that time is past, but fortunately I got to enjoy some great content from you. Gotta say when I first hopped on I was like "oh boy this is going to be some cringe boring blah blah. But instead I was welcomed with a biology lesson on the unthinkable. A lesson I could sit through and enjoy. I've been a fan ever since and I gotta say, you are one of if not my absolute favorite UA-cam channels. Like I never check into my notifs and really usually listen to music or an occasional funny video but the moment I see your channel name pop up, even if for just an announcement I click. I haven't been watching for too long but I've been subscribed for a small bit. And I'm more than happy to support the channel with a sub and whatever else way I can. Thank you for this amazing channel, its amusing jokes and fantastic content. Keep it up. Your truly one of those channels that will stand the test of time of youtube and a reminder of the passions put into old UA-cam. May all your ventures be met with fortune and your fantastic qualities never change, you deserve every ounce of credit and support you can get

  • @aidenbutrick6496
    @aidenbutrick6496 7 місяців тому +2

    I praise all helldivers looking to learn more about how to kill the bugs faster

  • @sawpatrick3452
    @sawpatrick3452 3 роки тому +54

    I like the way how they train against humanoid opponents with guns. Yup, those bugs are definitely humanoid and are also equipped with guns.

    • @handle_mobileoperator
      @handle_mobileoperator 3 роки тому +17

      They were not aware that the bugs were hostile until the bugs attacked Bueno Aires. They didn’t have time to change the training method until the first few months of the bug war.

    • @ChextheVes4451
      @ChextheVes4451 2 роки тому +2

      They didn't know about the bugs at that point.

    • @ehrenmurdick
      @ehrenmurdick 2 роки тому +10

      In real life the military trains soldiers in strict orderly boot camp, then they go to actual combat which is by all accounts barely controlled chaos. So we kinda do the same thing now.

    • @lucamckenn5932
      @lucamckenn5932 2 роки тому

      That's because the feds feared another disastrous human vs human conflict until the pseudo-arachnids decided to attack first. In their arrogance they thought us beaten and battered but to their devastated surprise it united us under one common enemy.
      Would you like to know more?

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 2 роки тому +13

      Up to that point, the Federal military would have been fighting insurgents and separatists. Humans are supposed to have only become aware of the Arachnids in the last 20-30 years and hadn't yet come into any direct military conflict with them and so the emphasis in training would still be on dealing with human insurgents.

  • @andersbald6756
    @andersbald6756 2 роки тому +27

    He is literally correct about power being defined by "the monopoly violence". It's the literal definition of a state under political science.

  • @BoatSniper49
    @BoatSniper49 3 роки тому +13

    "To save our Mother Earth from any alien attack..."

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 3 роки тому +1

      The Earth isn't our mother it's literally our enemy.

    • @robertsmalls2293
      @robertsmalls2293 3 роки тому +1

      Is that pfp from Battalion Wars? That’s a game I haven’t seen, or touched since I was a kid. What a solid game.

    • @warcorer
      @warcorer 3 роки тому +4

      The EDF deploys!

    • @broomy1610
      @broomy1610 3 роки тому

      The navy launches ships, the Air Force sends its jet

  • @TheCthultist
    @TheCthultist 7 місяців тому +1

    Welp, this video’s about to get a major view boost again. Thanks Helldivers 2 and idiots on twitter not understanding that SST is a satire…

  • @corumsorensen7822
    @corumsorensen7822 3 роки тому +4

    Another interesting thing tonote is the bugs themselves(the warriors) Dont appear to be mindless. THey can be seen lifting their smaller claws to protect themselves from gunfire and will bicker amongst themselves, suggesting some form of intelligience.

    • @Waftey
      @Waftey 3 роки тому

      Most likely, they have the intelligence of an primitive human caveman thats a child

  • @LegendaryPredalien12
    @LegendaryPredalien12 3 роки тому +7

    The Planetary Asteroid Defence Ring was built after Beunos Aires was destroyed, I think it's mentioned that it's a Propaganda video from later show early. I think?

  • @nickpheonixify
    @nickpheonixify 3 роки тому +10

    could there be a type of bug that converts co2 to oxygen both sustaining the other bugs and feeding on a waste product?

    • @NoESanity
      @NoESanity 3 роки тому +1

      There probably is a teraforming bug. Klendathu isn't their true home world in the movies, just the supposed home world, as seen with the God bug being a whole ass other planet on the other side of the galaxy.

  • @jamessabins887
    @jamessabins887 3 роки тому +4

    The 1st part of the movie Is a Flash forward and then a flashback to how he ended up on klendathu

  • @nikitachirich7985
    @nikitachirich7985 Рік тому

    Wow come to realize by the end of the video, but his biochemical analysis is really on point regarding O2 atmospheric necessity and the inconsistency of the arachnids being so much bigger than humans with so little oxygen ( normal human range atmosphere) on the desert planet which seems to lack current ability to produce said oxygen.
    I wish he did all the other movies and game series this way, brilliant.

  • @tiofelioabito8820
    @tiofelioabito8820 7 місяців тому +2

    Didn't the teacher have a cybernetic prosthesis during the invasion?

  • @martinkulash4061
    @martinkulash4061 3 роки тому +16

    Wasn't the beginning after the asteroid hit and then we jumped back like a year? So the asteroid defense was put in after the attack. Great silly movie

  • @DarkROSkull013
    @DarkROSkull013 2 роки тому

    I think there's more to ponder here than what was presented. I love how someone tries to analyze these alien species from an "scientific" view, and that the analysis opens up more areas for discussion. For example: how do the bugs eat? The brain has a proboscis, but how about the warriors? They have jaws, but no visible mouth. Also, what consists of food when they can't get human?
    Also, another point of interest is the plasma bugs. Where do they get that much energy from, and how can they expell that much from their body in succession?
    All in all, I am glad this video and the likes of it are made, since we can have a leisurely discussion about fictional species, based on analysis of real world/contemporary objects. But also, I am a homeless man with too much time in his hands, so there's that.

  • @diogomuller8089
    @diogomuller8089 3 роки тому +9

    3:52 Yeah it's probably an oversight by the writers, but there's still probabily some sort of class structure. These techs are not available or made available to everyone

    • @diogomuller8089
      @diogomuller8089 3 роки тому +1

      Oh and there's a great episode of Advanced Sci-fi Civilisations Too Stupid To Really Exist on this movie

    • @jadenholmes1222
      @jadenholmes1222 3 роки тому +3

      In the book, he's there to shock and scare off recruits. He actually has biosynthetic arms and legs, which is fucking awesome. The film is different but is still awesome.

  • @Beuwen_The_Dragon
    @Beuwen_The_Dragon Рік тому

    In fairness, the order of events at the beginning of the film is shown out of order.
    The proper chronological order is thus.
    First, When Rico and the gang are still students in school, the Arachnids destroy a Civilian Settlement, which colonizes a world in the exclusion zone against warnings from the Federation. (The Federation is actually a separate Entity from the rest of Human civilization in the galaxy, which is why Civilians in society are shown able to thrive even without being Citizens of the Federation.)
    Next the bugs launch an attack on Earth via the asteroid. The Arachnids are known to launch their Spore into space to colonize other planets, and launch plasma blasts into space, as we are able to see. (Aye, the distances between worlds is head scratching, but we can chalk that up to ‘Hollywood space stuff.”)
    After the Destruction of Buenos Aires, the Federation declares War. this is where we are shown that Lunar Shipyard has made upgrades to its anti asteroid defense systems, now that the Arachnids have proven to be a significant threat to Earth, and the Federation commences its invasion of Klendathu. It has been a full year since the Destructive of the Civilian Colony, and when Rico Left School.
    This, combined with the Federation being shown to Allow Unrestricted Media Access to not only Scientific Research on the Arachnids, (state secrets) but allow open, unfiltered reporting on the Failures of the Federation’s Campaigns. They aren’t afraid to publicly show when and how they mess up, (Buenos Aires, Klendathu, etc) which a Secretive Authoritarian Regime would never do.
    So it isn’t unreasonable to assume that it was in fact the Arachnids whom Struck First, seizing on the knowledge gained from the Civilian Colonists the location of the Home planet of a Rival Faction, Humanity and the United Citizen Federation.

  • @warhound1161
    @warhound1161 3 роки тому +4

    This is why I like the roughnecks series in that the humans do need co2 helmet

  • @blaznskais2048
    @blaznskais2048 Рік тому

    4:42 you would think such injuries would be career ending but in the cycle before me there was a male that managed to rupture his appendix 2/3rds the way through. They send him off to surgery and to recoup, then recycled him to my cycle and he passed no problem. That same cycle prior to mine a female had fallen from one of the high obstacles, fractured some ribs and punctured a lung. Somehow still managed to pass basic.
    Amazing what the human body can do when you really, really wanna pass basic cause that’s the fastest way out of basic.

  • @sporkwitch
    @sporkwitch 3 роки тому +8

    As I finish watching this video, I've realized something: the director of the movie didn't read the book (we know this because he admits it in interviews), and roanoke clearly didn't watch the movie OR read the book...

  • @jamesbechtel7736
    @jamesbechtel7736 Рік тому

    Another thing about the helmet scene.
    I cant comment too much on these future combat helmet designs, but in real life helmets are not designed to stop bullets. Their primary purpose is to protect against flying shrapnel and falling debris. Even if the soldier still had the helmet on and had gotten shot in the forhead for example the round still would have punched straight through.

  • @nightcoremadstudioreborn4299
    @nightcoremadstudioreborn4299 Рік тому +1

    With the meteor from Klendathu situation, the games and animated movie redcon this, with the bugs being able to telepathically communicate at long distances, they could have knocked the meteorite from another planet much closer as a direct command from the home planet, but that would still take a while..

    • @Ninvus2
      @Ninvus2 10 місяців тому

      Wouldn't that be telekinesis, not telepathy? Or did they have some bugs stained near earth already?

  • @aaronlawson2006
    @aaronlawson2006 3 роки тому +4

    On the live fire training we actually did a very similar drill in basic in the US Army live fire advancing on popup targets I mean there where no lasers being fired at us but you can imagine it would be comparably easy to trip and fall or generally just have a negligent discharge

  • @Eldexo
    @Eldexo Місяць тому

    3:52 Well, he actually has prosthetics for legs as well but that is where the movie cuts it, as this is literally a scene from the book but cut in half and ripped out of context...
    (I love the book as well as the movie, despite the moivie being basically opposite of the book)
    The impact the officer here has on the audience is the impact he is supposed to have on the potential recruits to actually make them doubt the enlistment - he does have prosthetics but he do not wear them at work for the simple shock effect to remember the wannabe citizens about their potential sacrifice.

  • @jo1italianstyle
    @jo1italianstyle 3 роки тому +10

    Oh Roanoke, so naive! The asteroid wasn't even sent by the bugs, it was an inside job to wave war.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn Рік тому +1

    Uh, Roanoke, my dude... The Bug meteor wasn't a false flag attack. Do you remember that the ship Carmen was on - the Rodger Young - had a huge asteroid suddenly detected absolutely huge gravity fields and all of a sudden an asteroid came out and knocked off their communication tower? The Bugs found a way, biologically, do the warp-whatever light speed travel. Whether it be by psychically or whatever isn't really known, but then again when you have a Bug lifeform that's the size of a planet who knows what it can do. But, yes, the Bugs did send the asteroid and it was narrowly avoided by Carmen piloting the ship and the reason why it wasn't known about before hand was because it took out the ship's communication antenna. The question as to why the moon's defense didn't take it out - possibly because it was propaganda. "There's nothing to worry about! Our planetary defenses are impenetrable! Definitely don't panic!" only for them to not be as good as they made them out to be. The planetary defense systems seem to be build around the moon, so that can obviously pose a problem if the asteroid is on the other side of the Earth and they haven't received warning as to one coming. So typical arrogance and shortsightedness led to the disaster.
    But, yes, it was a bug asteroid.

  • @azrasashima3733
    @azrasashima3733 3 роки тому +11

    "why even wear armor at that point"
    shrapnel, debris, etc. more dangers in battle than simply the enemy itself.

  • @grimmako4879
    @grimmako4879 5 місяців тому +2

    Helldivers the movie 💀 this is OG Helldivers

  • @Loonfuzzy
    @Loonfuzzy 3 роки тому +33

    Not the exaggerated swagger of a black teen? Unfortunate.

    • @ivory867
      @ivory867 3 роки тому +1

      As a black teen I will never not find this funny can’t believe they actually said that shit

    • @marquisobscurite9104
      @marquisobscurite9104 3 роки тому +1

      What

    • @CorwinTheOneAndOnly
      @CorwinTheOneAndOnly 3 роки тому +1

      @@ivory867 When people go too far down a rabbit hole, don't be surprised when they come out on the other side XD

  • @Jimov
    @Jimov Рік тому

    The asteroid thing always bugged me lol. For it to reach Earth, the bugs would have had to blast it out of their own system thousands and thousands of years ago. There isn't any correlation in my opinion and the false flag idea or just capitalising on a random asteroid strike seems to be the best theory.

  • @mattyspoons777
    @mattyspoons777 3 роки тому +6

    Roanoke: "humanity number one"
    Humanity: "Roanoke number one"
    Armchair scientists: *unintelligible rambling*

  • @apathyreview3964
    @apathyreview3964 Рік тому

    Also amino acids that our bodies use, we do not get that nitrogen from the atmosphere. We get it from food. This may seem obvious but only special nitrogen fixing bacteria can directly interact with atmospheric nitrogen to provide nitrates which are further processed into amino acids by plants., This because Nitrogen does not chemically react with almost anything under normal conditions. Because that's what INERT means.

  • @Other8arry
    @Other8arry 7 місяців тому +1

    You have misunderstood the movie, granted because of its direction, the movie isn’t presented in the order of events. Humanity doesn’t try to take over the universe and eradicate the local life. Mormons went to a different planet, which makes a lot of sense given Mormons. The Arachnids already live in that planet though; so the Arachnids kill the Mormons without provocation, aside from moving in where they aren’t welcome. Humanity doesn’t respond at all thinking “well hell, Mormons shouldn’t have gone there”, and takes no further action to provoke the Arachnids. The bugs though; decide that humanity is a threat and decide to take action, though honestly they have been attacking humanity for years, the human defense network simply keeps the asteroid threat at bay, even with all the arachnid attacks, humanity still doesn’t respond; that is until one gets through, as the ship which first encounters the asteroid has its comms taken out so they can’t be warn the defense network. The result is this most recent attack kills millions. Humanity now acknowledges that they cannot just let the bugs continue to lob asteroids at earth, they must respond, and they do indeed not realize just how dangerous the bugs are and their counter attack at Klendathu results in hundreds of thousands of dead human military. The General in charge accepts responsibility for his fuck up, and stands down so someone better can take his place. They step back, and analyze their enemy, properly respecting the threat in front of them, then they pursue the course of events that we end the movie on, capturing a brain bug, and continuing to study their enemies capabilities, so they can assess the threat and respond as best they can. As I continue to listen on your video, there is just so much wrong with your analysis. Watch the movie a few more times, and try to follow the actual timeline.

  • @planetsen
    @planetsen 7 місяців тому +55

    Who’s here from helldivers2 😂

  • @gearsonjackdda1798
    @gearsonjackdda1798 3 роки тому +4863

    I love it how he keeps getting promoted when someone died.

    • @RoanokeGaming
      @RoanokeGaming  3 роки тому +847

      What a way to climb the ladder!

    • @wojo44frompl
      @wojo44frompl 3 роки тому +245

      In a way it's nod to novel. In book there are instances of shifts in ranks, when some characters could be promoted or degradeted in mater of days. Of course this is during training or other instances outside combat missions.
      Over all film (and following sequels - both live-action and CGI animation) is loose adaptation (at best). Why Roanoke didn't even hinted that is beyond me.

    • @jacobwilson7030
      @jacobwilson7030 3 роки тому +268

      Back in the day it was a real thing. All the way up to Korea, field promotions were extremely common. Guys would go to the pacific theatre as Pvts and come back as Sgts because so many NCO’s were killed in the fighting

    • @WillO-sh2dz
      @WillO-sh2dz 3 роки тому +75

      I do love the way the book explains the logistical training requirements to keep a field promotion. That and how it clearly defines the basic rationale behind war or trade even enslavement to a point.

    • @fabrikator-generalakhilley6896
      @fabrikator-generalakhilley6896 3 роки тому +34

      @@jacobwilson7030 Yeah but.. Field Sarge to Butterbar when he was barely out of Basic? No Officer-school?! That just ain't gonna happen. Some might even consider it a step down! :p Just a ribbing for all the real Loo(Lef?)-tenants out there, luv ya 4 realz. :p

  • @11_EVERYTHING_OEFx2
    @11_EVERYTHING_OEFx2 Рік тому +284

    The knife scene does bare weight in the story. At the end she cuts the brain bug with it disabling its ability to suck out brains. The enemy’s WMD was basically disabled because it could no longer use its appendage to suck brains. Just like Zims answer to Ace, the enemy cannot push a button if you disable it’s hand. I was Infantry in the Army and there were 3 things I was told to have on me at all times; a knife, a watch, and a good pen. I would expect that even in the future, we will still be encouraged to carry a knife just because of how utilitarian knives are. Your survival chances are greatly improved by having a knife, you can tie it to a stick to make a spear for defense or hunting, you can baton wood to make a fire, you can chop branches to make a shelter. Plus you can stab someone. Again very utilitarian.

    • @BloodwolfTico
      @BloodwolfTico 10 місяців тому +2

      what about the pen?

    • @impertin3nz
      @impertin3nz 10 місяців тому +20

      ​@@BloodwolfTicoHave you seen John Wick ? 😅

    • @semperfat
      @semperfat 8 місяців тому +13

      A good marine carries a pen a great marine carries two.

    • @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
      @justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 7 місяців тому +7

      If more weapons are needed for survival or defense of a larger group, you can sharpen sticks easily if you have a knife. As long as war is fought with human soldiers, having a knife will ALWAYS be useful.

    • @KillerChrono666
      @KillerChrono666 6 місяців тому +3

      Still prefer a good trench shovel, but a good knife is just as versatile

  • @gabrieltallent1658
    @gabrieltallent1658 3 роки тому +3202

    The lack of strategy is actually intentional, at least on the film maker's part. The human being a large, alien invasion moving in a swarm with little to no planning or purpose, with the bugs being the ones actually using strategies to destroy the hateful invading force, it's the traditional alien vs. human story flipped on it's head.

    • @The_Foxymew
      @The_Foxymew 3 роки тому +417

      It's kind of amusing how little the movie has to do with the book, because the filmmaker HATED the book and its author, claiming them total fascists. I do wonder if that made the movie better or worse. I want to believe it makes it better, because it's basically just 'dumb fun' now.

    • @gabrieltallent1658
      @gabrieltallent1658 3 роки тому +280

      @@The_Foxymew There's also the idea that it's basically supposed to mimic fascist propaganda films.

    • @kirbyculp3449
      @kirbyculp3449 3 роки тому +124

      Smart book. Dumb film.

    • @The_Foxymew
      @The_Foxymew 3 роки тому +107

      @@kirbyculp3449 At least it can be dumb fun, there's value in that as well.

    • @carlosdgutierrez6570
      @carlosdgutierrez6570 3 роки тому +296

      @@The_Foxymew he tried too hard to make hateful parody of the book that ended completely going all the way around and ended making a wonderful piece of dumb yet charming pro human propaganda.

  • @discounthero9972
    @discounthero9972 7 місяців тому +160

    I eagerly await your Helldivers Termenid video. They decompose into a rare oil.

    • @TheStrubble1
      @TheStrubble1 7 місяців тому +9

      I am glad I am not the only one!

    • @Kayan-w3u
      @Kayan-w3u 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah. Really hope they add more Helldivers 1 terminids to Helldivers 2. Maybe some new additions too.

    • @ZaydinTTV
      @ZaydinTTV 6 місяців тому +2

      A vid on the Automatons (And Space Vietnam) would be good too.

    • @timesathousand
      @timesathousand 6 місяців тому

      My instincts tell me that decomposing Terminids into an organic (carbon based) oil in an /efficient/ manner is biologically impossible because molecules are essentially batteries for the energy that was used to make them. It takes millions of years, high pressures and high heats to turn ~100kg of dead life into ~100kg of oil beneath the Earth's crust. Without that input of heat, pressure and time you simply couldn't turn 100kg of dead stuff into the same amount of oil.
      Now if you did kill 2.25 million metric tons of Terminids (roughly the total mass of ants on Earth) with a 50% conversion to oil rate you could make 8 million barrels of oil. This sounds like a lot, but the Earth in 2023 used on average 20 million barrels PER DAY.
      So even if that rare oil skips all of the refining costs humans currently spend on crude oil, it still would mean xenociding 2-3 planets of Terminids per day to meet some modest (by interstellar standards) energy consumption. But we do see a lot of solar panels on Super Earth, so maybe the oil is used for something different than direct energy consumption.
      My best bet?
      Space lube :)

  • @TheBubbaclaw
    @TheBubbaclaw Рік тому +181

    The funny thing is Dizzy might have lived if he left the leg in her torso. The limb was holding the wound closed. (That's why they tell you to never remove a knife that's imbedded in a stab victim until they get to the ER.)

    • @tillmen4444
      @tillmen4444 Рік тому +47

      As much as I wish it was true, she was stabbed multiple times before that one

    • @miming3679
      @miming3679 Рік тому +29

      Not to mention the claws were SERRATED, that bug sawed her insides multiple times 💀
      Can't imagine how would they stitch that up

    • @alexbibby9641
      @alexbibby9641 10 місяців тому +10

      @@miming3679 Not to mention the sheer size of those wounds, advanced space tech or not you're gonna bleed out from an injury like that before they can get you in their version of a bacta tank. Her lung was almost entirely split in half from that bug leg no doubt, she was DOA before she even got on the shuttle
      For context its basically the same as having a helicopter tail rotor blade stab you in the chest

    • @ghoost8943
      @ghoost8943 6 місяців тому

      If they had trained them for first aid then they would be able to resist the drill Sgt, lol

    • @averyhaferman3474
      @averyhaferman3474 5 місяців тому

      She was impaled about 4 times. She was dead

  • @michaelkoukaras7515
    @michaelkoukaras7515 Рік тому +164

    If you read the novel, the recruiter reveals that he doesn't wear his prosthesis at the recruiting station intentionally to discourage those people who may not be ready for the price they may have to pay for serving.

    • @MJesDK
      @MJesDK Рік тому +31

      In all fairness, the director didn't exactly read much of the novel either.

    • @silverprimus321boi9
      @silverprimus321boi9 7 місяців тому +27

      @@MJesDK Which is why the movie is the way it is. It's paul Verhoeven skimming the book, proclaiming it as "facist" (its more of a hyper libertarian society), then making the movie to make fun of his preconcieved notion of the book. Then it unintentionally became a legendary film on the indomnitable human spirit, which made verhoeven seethe even more.

    • @Shugg-Goff-HHoffical
      @Shugg-Goff-HHoffical 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@silverprimus321boi9hyper libertarian ( as we see today in- utero) is just fascism with a different label and at the otherside of the spectrum. It's all part of the same bird. It flies down snatches food out your mouth before it shits all over you and all you hold dear, just for it to do another pass. Politics is a Seagull, people want to protect it irrationally no matter the nuisance they are. The markings different on the wings is what people tend to focus on. They get all warm fuzzy feels when they see the baby gull try to fly. 😂

    • @randomspid3r142
      @randomspid3r142 7 місяців тому +6

      @@silverprimus321boi9 It became a legendary satire of facsism and yes the original book was facsist, it constantly glorified hyper militarism and a major thematic element was the idea of moral degeneracy a key part in fascist ideology

    • @silverprimus321boi9
      @silverprimus321boi9 7 місяців тому +10

      @randomspid3r142 it isn't fascist.
      Istg people just say that about everything that looks mildly militaristic these days. Heinleins novel depicts the society as a hyper libertarian meritocracy. Literally all the "facist" elements were just shoved in by verhoeven in the movie, but get contradicted by other details, like an actual chain of command, responsibility of the upper command, and whatnot.

  • @bigheadrhino
    @bigheadrhino 3 роки тому +498

    “Why bother wearing armor?” Probably to protect against friendly fire.

    • @DJWeapon8
      @DJWeapon8 3 роки тому +53

      Friendly fire.
      Shrapnel from the really powerful grenades.
      More shrapnel and debris from man portable miniature self propelled nuclear warheads.
      And just plain falling and getting scuffed up.

    • @deleteduser3455
      @deleteduser3455 3 роки тому +9

      Because they are prepared to fight humans

    • @deleteduser3455
      @deleteduser3455 3 роки тому +5

      DJ Weapon irl most of the armour like knee pads and such a bullet will rip right through most of the average soldier is exposed the only protection is the upper torso even the gut isn’t protected it’s just a small plate on the front and back and a helmet because the two most aimed for places are upper torso and head. Arm and leg shots aren’t common and aren’t that deadly considering someone can realistically survive losing a arm or leg. Meaning it’s not completely vital (though it really sucks) ideally you would cover the whole body but you have to deal with head build up and weight issues for every bit of armour you add to your arms that’s armour that isn’t protecting your head or neck somewhere that’s more necessary to protect ideally the whole body would be covered but like that’s only if the full body protection is comfortable like imagine I told you to run around with 100 pounds of armour you would probably not want to it’s like why people don’t wear body armour in daily life because most of the time you don’t need it and it’s dead weight but if you need it you need it. Soldiers died because they were using EOD suits and they were too slow to avoid bullets and the suit even though it’s better protection than a regular suit and can stop bullets to the torso and has shrapnel protection all around. It isn’t enough to outweigh the mobility. So with armour most of it is just so you don’t get scuffed up because falling hurts and if you fall the wrong way it can mess you up and some of the armour is for actually stopping bullets

    • @DJWeapon8
      @DJWeapon8 3 роки тому +11

      @@deleteduser3455 obviously the knee pads will do jack shit against bullets. But as I said, its for not getting injured from falls or getting scuffed up when taking a knee. Like real militaries do.

    • @daedalusfan3003
      @daedalusfan3003 3 роки тому +9

      Also in the book the armor was much more advanced, being able to resist up to autocannon rounds, and having a variety of sensors and communications systems, as well as jumpjets. Apparently the reason for not having this in the movie was due to CGI limitations.

  • @mdwarenycia
    @mdwarenycia Рік тому +94

    Here's how I always understood the discrepancy of the opening scene with the planetary defenses. Because it starts out with the invasion and Rico yelling at the camera man, it was showing a flash forward; so we get the call to join, preview of the upgraded defenses, and then the invasion clip. Once that clip is done, it does a flash back to start telling Ricos story, where Buenos Aires is attacked before the defenses are upgraded.

    • @Lorkanthal
      @Lorkanthal Рік тому +41

      exactly, the asteroid defenses were constructed as a result of the first strike. The amount of people who forget that the start of the film takes place 1 year ahead of where the main story starts is baffling.

    • @vladimirdragonov
      @vladimirdragonov Рік тому +22

      ​@@Lorkanthallike it literally states in big letters "ONE YEAR EARLIER"

    • @justinbaker5749
      @justinbaker5749 11 місяців тому

      I think the common consensus is that the asteroid was actually launched by the government as an excuse to go to war, which easily explains away that "massive plot hole". It's pretty much the 9/11 conspiracy before 9/11 happened.

    • @Baldwin-iv445
      @Baldwin-iv445 7 місяців тому +1

      I wasn't sure if those defenses ever existed before Buenos Aires.

    • @shaneregan7745
      @shaneregan7745 7 місяців тому

      It’s also a theory that it was a false flag attack to get support for the war. I think a lot of the “dumb stuff” people do in this movie is intentional to show how a war obsessed fascist society is inherently illogical.

  • @ragnarok1245
    @ragnarok1245 3 роки тому +400

    Might I suggest that while you're doing the Starship Troopers episodes to also look at Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles and not just the movies. It was an animated series that fit more closely to Robert A. Heinlein's book, and as such not only includes the Skinnies alien race but also several Arachnid variations not present in the live action or cg films.

    • @gonzalogutierrez510
      @gonzalogutierrez510 3 роки тому +13

      Ah the good times. I remember having a blast watching it

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 3 роки тому +14

      Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy reuses the Starship Troopers outfits, and the enemies are bugs, so he should include that, too

    • @praetorianrex5571
      @praetorianrex5571 3 роки тому +11

      @@Gloomdrake if only the Rangers are available to the Federation, lol.

    • @ninjabreadman911
      @ninjabreadman911 3 роки тому +3

      there was also an unoffical video game for the n64 called "armorines: project s.w.a.r.m"
      ua-cam.com/video/WX15FcApoqo/v-deo.html

    • @herpderp7274
      @herpderp7274 3 роки тому +2

      God I remember that
      Good times