Measure Internal Impedance on Batteries using a Hioki 3554

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  • Опубліковано 11 тра 2015
  • How to determine failure levels for your batteries, the internal resistance measurement level, and cut-off voltage. Also gives a quick overview on setting up the Hioki 3554 Battery HiTester to conduct tests.
    Takes on-the-spot measurements of the internal resistance, voltage and temperature of lead-acid batteries, principally for UPS and similar applications, without needing to shut off the battery. Instantaneous results, on a three-rank scale of Pass, Warning, or Fail, using a composite decision based on the internal resistance and the voltage. Resolution of 1 µohm, necessary for high capacity batteries (of at least 500 Ah). Includes Hioki 9460 clip type temperature leads.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 37

  • @sstorholm
    @sstorholm 4 роки тому +3

    Cheers mate, nice overview on how to properly test batteries, for some reason the whole Internet is full of hobbyists checking their car batteries, this is the first video that show battery testing in a professional setting. :)

  • @AndiePiercy
    @AndiePiercy 2 роки тому +1

    Cheers Graeme, nice overview. Just bought one of these to make my UPS bat monitoring easier. Certainly a fast meter and fairly straight forwards to set up. The only issue i have now is all our critical testing is done out of hours in overtime so I need to slow it down :-)

  • @yacinbradford
    @yacinbradford 7 місяців тому

    SO HELPFUL THANK U VERY MUCH SIR YOU ARE THE BEST

  • @nguyeninh1782
    @nguyeninh1782 5 років тому

    Thanks alot about clip, pls show me how to connect and download data from Laptop.

  • @gambirlimbu3606
    @gambirlimbu3606 5 років тому

    Does the ciruit need to be open or can test on connected batteries also.

  • @michaelagnew7825
    @michaelagnew7825 3 роки тому

    does the unit automatically compensate for voltages differences

  • @md.sharifulislam4922
    @md.sharifulislam4922 Рік тому

    hello sir,
    please let me know the 12v,18AH battery normally has internal resistance?

  • @jaredturner8185
    @jaredturner8185 3 роки тому

    Can you tell me if you can test batteries in series, testing two batteries at the same time as I am having trouble accessing the battery terminals.

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 3 роки тому

      If you measured two batteries at the same time you would have the addition of the two impedance measurements. So it would be a reasonable indicator if something was marginal or not.

  • @bavananthanalselvamany2372
    @bavananthanalselvamany2372 4 роки тому

    can we test the battery internal impedance while the battery is still connected with UPS and charging?

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 4 роки тому

      I have not used these in the field however according to the documentation I have the main selling feature of this type of battery testing is that you do not need to take the batteries offline to test them.

  • @veeregowdaah2552
    @veeregowdaah2552 7 років тому +1

    what is the relation between impedance and battery voltage?

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 7 років тому

      Each different battery chemistry and battery voltage will have a different relationship. So you have to get the manufacturers documentation to determine what is acceptable and unacceptable impedance measurements. You can take a number of 'good' similar batteries and experimentally determine a 'good' reading. Its a bit of an empirical measurement really. If you only have one battery to test then you have to rely on the manufacturers specification.

    • @Ivan-vv6nd
      @Ivan-vv6nd Рік тому

      I have a Hioki battery tester BT 3554.
      After measuring a battery I get resist 0.02 mOhm ( before was 3-5 mohm). I replaced battery but i still have same measurement by hioki
      Please can you advice me what can be wrong
      Setting on hioki tester is same like before

  • @engineermubashir7324
    @engineermubashir7324 2 роки тому +1

    what is the difference between battery impedance and resistance??

    • @AK-IT
      @AK-IT 9 місяців тому

      Impedance resists the flow of current in an AC circuit. In AC, it has to account for resistance and reactance. Resistance prevents the flow of current flow in a DC circuit, but DC is real power so no need to account for reactance.
      Batteries internal impedance also changes depending on frequency of AC signal. Thats probably why the standard internal impedance measurement is an AC signal at a set 1kHz and outputs a millions measurement (ex: 11 mΩ).
      Low impedance is for handling changes in load when accelerating in a car. Low internal resistance is important for efficiently delivering power to the motor in a car.

  • @robertcloa7829
    @robertcloa7829 4 роки тому

    Hello, does this tester measure the Internal Resistance of the lead acid battery even when the UPS (equipment) is online?

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 4 роки тому +1

      Yes you can be online... great for quickly testing battery banks. Alternatively if you need to stress test the batteries you might use something like the Megger Torkel 950 which actually does a load test and discharges the battery, this has to be done offline.

    • @robertcloa7829
      @robertcloa7829 4 роки тому

      Graeme Murphy Thank you for this!

  • @hussambannaga1153
    @hussambannaga1153 5 років тому

    How can I get same (kind) of result with the tool I have : Extech 380462: Precision Milliohm Meter (220VAC)
    I get sparkling ang no stable reading

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 5 років тому

      Probably because its measuring resistance NOT impedance. This instrument measures the impedance using a low voltage AC source...

    • @randycollens2681
      @randycollens2681 2 роки тому

      @@GraemeMurphy54 this makes no sense

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 2 роки тому

      @@randycollens2681 Resistance is DC and Impedence is AC. Slightly illogically you measure an AC parameter across a DC device in this case a DC battery. It just happens to give you a reliable and repeatable measure of the health of the battery.

  • @sadaqatali9166
    @sadaqatali9166 4 роки тому

    Sir,we lerned in university that resistance is measured in DC circuit and impedance measured in AC circuit ,
    The battery is DC device and then why we called impedance rather then resistence

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 4 роки тому

      Because the device measure AC impedance of the battery. The fact that the battery is a DC device is irrelevant here. It is a case of 'it just so happens', that the AC impedance indicates the health of a battery.

    • @mohbit3336
      @mohbit3336 4 роки тому

      @@GraemeMurphy54 hey nice video , i have a question i know that we can check a battery health by measuring the cell voltage cann't we use that instead of measuring the impedance .

    • @srnunan4783
      @srnunan4783 3 роки тому

      @@mohbit3336 no, ocv can tell you state of charge not state of health

  • @mohdsayyid1619
    @mohdsayyid1619 6 років тому

    why you use 22mohm for setting 'pass' - currently the internal resistance was 11mohm. give your email for detail discussion.

    • @mr.saurabh9715
      @mr.saurabh9715 4 роки тому

      See the user manual part....there written about that

    • @mr.saurabh9715
      @mr.saurabh9715 4 роки тому

      It says it can give 2 times the value...

  • @NISHANTSINGH1212
    @NISHANTSINGH1212 2 роки тому

    Was it ACIR measurement or DCIR

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 2 роки тому

      It tests using a 1KHz(+/- 80Hz) signal at 160mA or 16mA depending upon the range.

  • @engrarifiqbal2765
    @engrarifiqbal2765 5 років тому

    What is the Price Of this Meter?

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 5 років тому

      We rent them. If you check the Hioki web site you should be able to find your nearest distributor

  • @Xxxcappie23
    @Xxxcappie23 3 роки тому

    So the older the battery gets the more the internal resistance will be?

    • @GraemeMurphy54
      @GraemeMurphy54 3 роки тому +1

      Yes... but by how much depends on the technology of the batteries... You need to either get the info from the battery manufacturer OR have a number of examples and develop experience yourself.

  • @randycollens2681
    @randycollens2681 2 роки тому

    Impedance is for AC circuits. You’re measuring DC batteries, therefore are testing internal resistance, not impedance!