As both an Irishman and an American (having spent time in both countries) the depth of the relationship between Ireland and the USA is something I think most non-Americans and non-Irish fail to understand. Irish populations organisations are present in every state and every major city, few ethnicities have that(perhaps only African Americans and Chinese Americans). 2 of the most prominent holidays in the USA (Halloween and St Patrick's day) originate in Ireland. Every city has societies that practice Irish art forms like Irish dancing and Irish traditional music. And of course even non Irish Americans identify with the Irish struggle for independence against the British due to how it mirrors their own national myths. The minute an American hears an Irish accent, the Irishman is guaranteed good hospitality in almost any corner of the country. From the Irish side, Irish people generally love America and it's culture (though it's taken some hits, especially during the Iraq war). Nowhere else in Europe is American culture, be it food, music, movies or TV, more prominent. Ireland is one of the only parts of Europe where you're more likely to find American style pizza than Italian style, and where you can buy a hamburger and fries in pretty much every town, even the smallest. Ireland is the hub for American businesses in Europe, almost every prominent American company you can think of is in Dublin or some other part of Ireland. It's this good will and trust between the two countries that enables such deep economic integration. Ireland may seem small and insignificant, and in many ways it is, but it has a great deal of soft power, and you can see that being flexed in this dispute over Brexit. When it comes to policy around Ireland, Americans don't necessarily act out of calculation like they would with other countries. Americans will be driven first and foremost by their romantic feelings about Ireland, which remain very strong. If a president betrayed Ireland, they'd have to reckon with every mother who's daughter is in an Irish dancing club, every Irish pub owner in every city would collect money for the cause. There are few Morris dancing societies that would do the same for England. The Irish Taoiseach is the only world leader who is guaranteed to meet the American president every year. There's a very good reason for that.
Americans seem desperate to be Irish when they're just Americans, some delusions about being Irish seems nonsensical to the rest of the world, after 1 generation you're no longer Irish, in Australia there isn't this absurd desire to be English, Irish British or anything but Australian, even if both parents are English. i understand a fondness for an ancestral homeland but half so called irish Americans ancestral link to Ireland is minuscule, most of them have way more English in them than Irish anyway, seem to conveniently overlook that. Biden is even an English name, it seems hilariously parodical from over here. you can be friends with you're nations parents that are within British isles, but you cant actually be your parents. You're Americans, be Americans.
You've got that wrong. It was the Protestant Ulster-Scots Presbyterians who arrived 150 years before the Irish Catholics, gave you the 20 Presidents, 25 army generals and half of all of the revolutionary fighters. Recognised as being the first people to call for American freedom and played a major part in creating your Consitution. You can see the place names..Orange County, Ulster County and the numerous towns called Belfast. The major difference being, that these settlers called themselves 'American' not Irish-American. Hence the reason that nationalist link isn't heard of. The Irish catholics ony arrived after it was all built.
@@gary637 We're both right. Most of the Irish immigration to the USA was post 1845 (the Famine), but nevertheless, the Irish have made a massive impact in American culture, that doesn't take away from the contributions of ulstermen. The difference is that ulstermen largely melted into the general Anglo population, whereas the Irish maintained their identity, and hence their place in the American imagination.
.. hmm, not exactly true that.. people in the US understand the value of the special relationship with the UK.. its just America isn't one entity.. obviously it consists of individuals and they have different ideas.
@@joecater894 "...people in the US understand the value of the special relationship with the UK..."? If you believe that claim, you are deluding yourself. The USA has one, very definite, 'Special Relationship', which is with Israel. Ireland enjoys a very close relationship with the USA. Countries around the world would sacrifice their granny for the guaranteed access Ireland has to the White House every Paddy's Day. The reason for both of these 'Special' relationships is rooted in US DOMESTIC politics. The two most powerful political lobby groups in US politics are the Israeli and Irish lobbies. No other lobby comes close. Successive Irish governments spent a lot of time and energy building a relationship with the Irish-American lobby, which resulted in bi-partisan support in BOTH parts of the US Congress for the Irish peace process, and the Good Friday Agreement(GFA). Oh, and American support for Ireland when it comes to the UK government messing around with Northern Ireland(NI)... The UK does not, and did not, have anything like that level of support across the aisle in Congress. As Helmut Kohl pointed out; "The Special Relationship was so special that only the British knew about it!"
That special relationship did exist. Until 1945 Britain was important to them because of the colonies and the shared ownership of trans-oceanic communication cables (hence the 'Five Eyes'), by the '70 Britain had lost it's colonies and from '73 onwards it existed because Britain functioned as a US bridgehead into the EU. Since we left the EU there is no value in it any more for the USA and it ceased to exist the UK having been replaced by Ireland. PS: During the Troubles the USA was the largest legal source of income for Sinn Fein. Donations to them were even tax deductable under US law.
@@joecater894 one is usually thinking of a countrys beliefs as the beliefs of its parliament and the main persons of its ruling parties and its civilservants who makes foregin policy and not mrs smith from milwauke.
RoI is politically very shaky - the two main parties are in a desperate grand coalition to prevent Sinn Fein from assuming control. Meanwhile the EU makes RoI a dumping ground for migrants. That's at street level and won't change however many wannabee JFKs deign to make speeches waxing lyical. Irish people still head to GB as their own land is too expensive.
@@thomasbootham2707 The average Irish man is far better off than their UK equivalent. The claim that Irish people "...can hardly afford to live..." is hyperbolic nonsense.
As an American I can guarantee that despite our incipient civil war, the one thing we all do agree on is support for Ireland and will back Ireland unfailingly
This has always been something that is overlooked. During the 1970s I would often see IRA "Provos" in Georgetown in Washington, DC (where I was born) just casually hanging around.
I was just in Dublin. Ireland is clearly corporate EU HQ for so many American companies especially tech companies. I work for a Dublin, Ireland based company.
It is irrational to support Brexit on the grounds of national self-interest, and then demand that the EU and the US act against their own interests for our benefit.
Brexiteers demand all sorts of irrational things. and complain when it gets pointed out. sort of like 8 year olds. thats the pack we are dealt with in the UK.
Quite right. Most Brits knew this to be sensible and true and that the timescale would be very extended. However trade deals with the US are frowned upon in the UK anyway because of the leverage that industrial agriculture has in their negotiation. A lot of US agricultural product does not meet anywhere near the safety standard expected and would crash any comprehensive attempt at a deal
This is incorrect. Lots of Brits thought we would greeted with lots of trade deals. The fact is, Britain is not powerful anymore. We need to address this, we are a second rate power at best and the delusion that we indulge ourselves hurts us
There is no "impasse" in N.I. The DUP is frustrating democracy. They have taken a stance that is not tenable and for which no compromise can be found. The DUP has no choice but to accept the Windsor deal. Even if they were to start a new civil war, the outcome will be that they will either accept the Windsor deal, or see N.I. joining the RoI, which will be worse for the DUP. There is no going back to the situation before 2016, unless the English decide to undo Brexit. But the English can't be bothered by what the DUP wants.
As an Irish man, and I say this to the UK people on here with no disrespect, but you guys NEEDED to see what the DUP was like to have to deal with on an ongoing basis. I know that many in England think of the Irish as crazy or irrational or violent etc, but it’s the guys who rabidly identify as quasi-brits in the form of the DUP that cause many of the frustrations. I mean, look what we’ve had to deal with all these years. Can you all see how hard it’s been for us to have an honest, good faith discussion with these goons now?
@@supereliptic UK citizens outside of Ireland don't think about the issues. We don't mind if you want to become United again. It doesnt effect us at all. Just as If scotland left. It's not said in any way offensive. It just doesn't effect our lives. We don't lose anything. So it should be up to you. But of course it seems some don't want that. Citizens or politicians.. I don't know, why hasn’t there been a unify vote ? If of course people want to stay in the UK then the Rep and the US can do one. Nothing to do with them. It’s purely up to the people of NI in my eyes.
The GFA was one of the few USA politics moments that was accepted as a success by all sides in the USA. I guess they will do whatever necessary to protect it.
The GFA was never a success. Much of the violence stopped but there has never been any rapprochement between the parties in Northern Ireland. Everyone slags off the DUP but they have a mandate and their vote has held up showing that they have the support of the vast majority of unionism. Like it or not. It is high time the UK stopped providing economic and military support to UKRAINE and let the US, the EU and Republic of Ireland (lol) sort the Russians out themselves. When the US need real friends it’s only ever the UK that shows up. The real power in the US understand that fact. There was no sign of RoI troops in IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN. The views of some academic from the “Slick Willie Institute” in Dublin are irrelevant as are the opinions of an elderly-confused one-term president who has made the US a laughing stock throughout the world. (Think withdrawal from Afghanistan).
Indeed. The US Senate (before the 2022 election) passed UNANIMOUSLY (=a miracle!) Resolution 117 on Northern Ireland requiring the UK to uphold the NIP and stop threatening Art. 16. People keep thinking it's Biden. It never was. Even the Trump administration had the same attitude.
you do realise how much of a part British Prime Ministers and the government had in making the GFA? it was very much something that was hard worked on. We are just unfortunate to live in a period of populist snake oil salesman. Our version of Trump just didn’t care about the GFA but that doesn’t mean that everyone has the same attitude.
@@widsof7862 Yes, of course we understand it, and it was seen in the warnings by Major and Blair prior to the referendum and then in the actions of May. But a lot of mediation was required between Ireland and the UK, Irish nationalists and Unionists, which is why politicians from other countries are also invested in the peace process. Even ex-PM of Finland was one of the early mediators (Harri Holkeri) of the conflict.
We all remember when President Obama said Brexit would put the UK "back of the queue" for trade talks. Biden was the Vice- President at that time and he didn't disagree...
no you didn’t, the Irish were in a totally different situation to the US, who were just British living abroad and had the same background as the people oppressing Ireland in the first place.
Yes I think many British miss this. Lots of Americans who have no attachment to Ireland understand the history of Empire well enough to see the similarity between their fight for independence and Ireland's.
@@normanchristie4524 if nobody voted for UKIP the Tory party would never have changed their tune. This is absolutely the fault of insecure British voters who did it regardless of knowing the cost because they thought nothing mattered more than saying FU to all the foreigners they decided to blame for their problems and fears.
It was the British Empire not the Conmon Wealth. The argument continues over whether Britain's treatment of Ireland during the Irish famine was genocide or not. But we were just a blueprint. What Britain done to Ireland it copied all over its empire. Approximately 15 million indians were starved to death during Britains reign. Approx 3 million indians were starved to death during WWII to ensure Britain had a steady food supply. Britain broke Ireland into two. But it broke India into 3.
@karmakazi How many live have been saved? At what cost did this modernisation take? If you read my comments very very carefully you will see I did not in fact say that Britain was the inventor of starvation because to claim something like that would be moronic. What I did state was the fact that under British rule both Ireland and India had millions starve because of British government policy. Is that an incorrect statement?
You get treated better than my country Wales and SCOTLAND..Ireland you tuck my ancestors as slaves so I wish we could have independence from england and think of are selves.
Poverty killed the Irish during the famine. Laissez-faire political thinking and 'work through poverty' were the main reasons it didn't help them. Europe had its own massive famines, yet we only hear about Ireland. Despite there being two previous famines in Ireland which killed many more people, the 'famous' famine co-incided with a nationalist uprising in Ireland. It was used to whip up xenophobia and hatred of the British. A useful propaganda tool for ultra nationalist extremists. They took that bitter hatred to America where it still festers as 'Bigot Biden' and the millions of dollars, the Irish Americans raised to fund and arm the IRA terror group through Noriaid. That's the most significant Irish-USA link.
@Gary "Poverty" that's an unnecessary name for the policies imposed on Ireland by a British government who continued to export food from an island where a million people starved to death. The response wasn't as muted to Scotland as it was Ireland. The famine did not infact 'co-incide' with an uprising. What a great uprising a country of literally starving people would make. The uprising that followed some 50 years later... was largely due to the handling of the famine by the British empire and their laissez-faire politics. The bitter hatred for what is considered genocide by many is justified. We all hate the nazis too (imagine your countries history being compared to the nazis, well done). The Orange Terror in the North of Ireland (not to be confused with the Orange Order) was entirely funded and armed by British authorities leading to the partition of Ireland. Those same men of the Orange Terror brought their hatred to the new world also. The followers of William of Orange in the new world simply became known as 'hillbillys'.
Talk about being put in your place...... The US President Biden, went to the North for half a day to meet with the uk Prime Minister and 3 days to meet with The Irish President, The Taoiseach, The Irish Parliament and the People of Ireland. 😀😀😀
Mama Duck are you actually aware of the conditions in the Irish Republic at the moment? The massive homelessness crisis the collapse of the health care system or the mass importation of unvetted male immigrants from Eastern Europe and sub Saharan Africa that has led to protests by the ordinary working class people on at least a weekly basis.
@@kathleenmcmanus8509 are you currently aware of the conditions in Brexit? England is more or less the same they’re having my massive strikes about it. 😂😂😂😂 get your self educated
@@ettoreatalan8303 so continents with different countries are not a thing in your wheelhouse then are they? I think there have been a few problems in Europe and Africa within living memory
Any trade deal is decided by the Congress in reality. However, Ireland has influence on both sides. So Trump could say what he wanted to say, but this was never going anywhere without protection for the GFA. That meant that the NI Protocol would have to be honoured. Ireland has shown that they are the real masters of soft power and not ourselves.
Ireland has influence in America that it has used in a vindictive and bullying fashion against Britain. Nothing for them to be proud of in that behaviour.
Exactly, The Economist reported a few years ago that the Irish are a global superpower in relation to soft power. And, USA has always said - on both sides of the aisle - that Ireland is a priority.
Northern ireland might join Israel as an increasingly partisan issue, with Democrats pandering to their Irish american/Catholic supporters, and gop opposing them for the sake of culture war spite
That is a bonus for Ireland but even if no Irish lobby in Congress it is USA strategic interests to protect GFA peace in Ireland and to maintain Ireland/EU links.
Anyone who has been to Ireland on the 4th of July or the USA on St Patrick's day you understand that unlike the UK that thinks it has special relationship, Ireland DOES HAVE.
Superpowers don't have special relations, if anything they have interests. If the USA has any special relation to a country, it is Israel: Ireland second position. UK? 'That's the small island near Europe, right??'
Two of the biggest holidays in states are. 1. Saint Patrick's day that we celebrate with huge parades from the smallest towns to the biggest cities and say "everyone is Irish" 2. Independence day that we celebrate with huge parades from the smallest towns to the biggest cities kicking the king of England out. LOL
Irish American, dad born and bred in Limerick and I agree with this guy. I also work for an Irish company and spend a lot of time there business and pleasure. First off there is huge Irish stock in America and Irish have done a lot for America from American revolution to the civil war when over 100,000 fought for the union to building many of our cities and pivotal in the creation of unions. Second with the UK out of the EU, Ireland is natural replacement bridge. I see this all the time in my job with all the business connections.
@@garyfletcher1910 what trade deal and Eire is a member of the EU a 400 million population and much larger economy. We have over 5,000 nukes we don't any from little england.
The reporter was desperately trying to find something positive for the GB. The answer was non no no, GB is not so important the EU is. Go figure, have you made a mistake? Maybe a very big one?
The guy being interviewed is an academic that has been sulking ever since the referendum. It has become his schtick. I don't place much weight on what he has to say.
@@vattenpoel1328 Our wonderful Brexit victory is a triumph for the UK. The EU is a shrinking violet that is constantly losing its share of world GDP. Wake up and smell the coffee before your country is finished.
I'm English 🏴 and not surprised at all, also not even bothered about this fantasy special relationship that is mentioned between England 🏴 and America 🇺🇲, we all know there isn't one I think most of the English 🏴 population aren't even bothered tbh. Good for Ireland 🇮🇪 and the USA 🇺🇲.
It was a democratic vote deal with it I don’t like brexit either but I’ve accepted the vote and got on with my life if Britain can survive the winter of discontent and also the Second World War then we can survive brexit it’s not the end of the world
@@thomasbootham2707 you're completely missing the point. Brexit was self-inflicted, unlike your other examples. I don't need to be told it's not the end of the world, I never said it was, I said how much it annoys me.
@@thomasbootham2707 you survived ww2 with thanks to Russia and the USA, your goose was cooked if not for them and you know it, if you don't, stick to reading the daily mail
The unionist’s and british will always be second in the queue behind the Irish in America, at least until the unionists realise they are Irish themselves.
If this wasn’t clear to the brexiteers then that just adds to the tragedy. Brexit was a conscious act of self harm for absolutely no benefit. And it remains unfathomable to me.
I’m glad you both replied. If we ever make a single additional £1 from Brexit or achieve a single objective collective benefit from that rank stupidity you are welcome to tell me I’m wrong. The IMF and the world bank have assessed our economic loss to be 4% of gdp and counting. Let’s see how this goes?
The first role of any government is too defend it's own people. UK and US narrative is that Russia and China are a threat to Western Civilization and that heavy spending in defence, both conventional and cyber being necessary. The Republic of Ireland clearly don't think so and "risk" the safety of their nation . No visits to Kiev, no tanks for Zelensky, hoping being neutral will save them from all ill's. Sure the Brexiteers knew the ramifications but most don't live in Northern Ireland, other things are salient to them.
That is exactly the correct point and is the strongest argument for me, the UK is a democracy, so is Ireland and all nations of the EU and the USA. We have the same issues and problems and we will solve them Together.
I have not seen anyone else mention how much brexit was awful for the US in terms of strategic relations. The UK used to offer the English speaking world a perfect platform on which to engage with Europe/EU. By pursuing brexit, the UK has drastically diminished its power on the world stage and undermined the prior US plans to rely on the UK as the window into the EU. Obviously the UK can do as it likes, but shooting itself and its Allies in the foot is not exactly advisable or commendable. The US and UK relationship will remain strong because of our shared personal and cultural ties, but to the extent the UK is determined to destabilize the peace in Ireland the US will push back. As I would hope they would.
Spot on. The U.K. was recipient of a disproportionately large amount of US FDI because it provided - same language, understandable legal system and contracts, global finance centre linked to NY - and all of this within the EU, the perfect location for “EMEA” HQs and market entry platform for the EU itself. Thrown away. And FDI is more important for the U.K. than most countries - as Carney said, we rely on “the kindness of strangers” to support our currency our borrowing capacity and thus our economy.
The UK betrayed the commonwealth, particularly New Zealand, when joining the EEC. Fast forward they then betray the EU to rekindle ties with the commonwealth who are now weary. Mix that with all the other acts of betrayal, holding other nations gold etc, the UK simply cannot be trusted
24 out of the top 25 US tech companies have their European headquarters in Ireland, this was the case even before Brexit. Tiny little Ireland with a population of only five million has gobbled up much of the US FDI money. Brexit makes Ireland even more attractive.
I sincerely hope the relations between Ireland and the UK, will improve in 2024. The British government has done a lot of damage to the Good Friday agreement, which is so sad. The world needs peace like never before. 🕊
If someone breaks the law would you complain that the police are taking sides when they arrest the criminal? The USA is a legal guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement. Therefore they are legally obliged to do whatever they can to maintain the Good Friday Agreement. They're the policeman in this case. The UK is doing everything it can to break a legally binding agreement therefore the USA is legally obliged to side with the Ireland and the EU. It's part of their job description. All for a tiny group of people in Northern Ireland who are triggered if they can't buy the right brand of sausages.
The Good Friday agreement would be guaranteed by the US insisting on customs borders being between the EU and Ireland not between the UK and another part of the UK.
@@mrharry448 Britain and even the UK as a whole is disunited politically, socially, culturally and linguistically. The poor political choices and decisions of Brexit have made the lack of unity ever clearer for the entire world to see. It's not just disunited, it's also completely imbalanced. Politically, it has devolved governments, but most of the power lies in Tory Westminster which has the UK at political loggerheads. These devolved governments squabble and fight amongst each other which details the disunity. Brexit was divisive and it shows how disunited the UK is with the occupied region called "Northern Ireland" and the country of Scotland voting No to Brexit. The UK is literally split down the middle in the Brexit debacle which makes it politically disunited. Furthermore, the UK isn't a voluntary union because Scotland is actively being denied another independence referendum post Brexit - this, again, makes it a disunited partnership + an imbalanced and undemocratic one. Welsh and Scottish independence is growing while talks of Irish reunification are on everyone's lips - this, again, demonstrates a disunited and imbalanced union. Socially, culturally and linguistically it is also divided and disunited as the different parts have their own culture and language + Britain has become increasingly "British Asian". Brexit itself limits multiculturalism and encourages exclusive nationalism and nativism which in effect breeds racism and xenophobia (the very core of Brexit and Brexiteers). Try convincing yourself that Grim Britain is united, but it's DISUNITED and IMBALANCED as well as UNDEMOCRATIC and UNJUST. And it's actively breaking up which is the ultimate win 😅
@@mrharry448 Repetition of your nonsense will not magically remove the 'non; while leaving a trace of 'sense'.... The USA was never in a position to demand "...customs borders being between the EU and Ireland ..." Why should Ireland have to suffer because of the Brixiteers self-mutilating stupidity? The EU will NEVER agree to put up a border between its own member states.
@@mrharry448 Pss, I will tell you a secret. Don't tell other Brexiteers, as it might be to big a shock to their world view for their feeble minds to handle: Ireland is part of the EU, not any more a colony of the United Kingdom. Why would Ireland leave the customs union to save the United Kingdom from a border in the Irish sea, necessitated by decision of the United Kingdom (better: England) to leave the customs union? Is that in the interest of Ireland? No. That border makes re-unification of Ireland more likely. Is that a moral obligation from the historical favours bestowed on Ireland by the British? Well, answer for yourself. If in doubt, read a bit on the years after 1845.
The UK was a bridge between the USA and Europe, now they've thrown that unique position away and Ireland have taken that role. I think this commentator underestimates Britain's ability to complete trade deals quickly, they just offer the other side everything in return for nothing and this brings about a rapid conclusion.
Ireland has been the corporate bridge across the Atlantic for 30 years. Just take a walk around Dublin or Cork and look at all the big American companies there especially tech like Apple, Microsoft, Meta, Google, Oracle, etc.
Another thing to consider is that Catholics in America generally side with Ireland as well because they also faced discrimination from Anglos and you see a lot of intermarriage like between Irish & Italians, Irish & Mexicans, Polish, etc. As to the EU probably more than half of Americans have ancestry to one or more EU nation including many that qualify for citizenship through decent.
Yep, I’m American and have EU citizenship through decent. I think once these older generations go away (the ones concerned about “national origin”) the US/world relations will be a lot better. I’m so tired of arrogance and pride segregating America-something more common in people born between the 1940s and 70s. Biden was born in 1942.
@@ImOk... I’m also a dual actually triple citizen of USA, Ireland and Italy and have lived abroad as well as travelled internationally extensively both business and pleasure. I have friends and family in several countries and just consider myself a global citizen. Most politicians of both parties are dinosaurs. The world will be a better place after they go extinct.
@@timlinator haha, agreed. I too have traveled quite a bit. Born in the late 80s. I actually have USA, British and Greek citizenship. Triple like you. I feel privileged to have a wider, more open view about the world. I never EVER consider myself better than anyone. If anything I’m just more interested in different cultures. I can vibe with anyone. These old schoolers need to go.
@@ImOk... yes I love traveling the world and learning about different cultures. The only thing that keeps me in the states is my aging mom. After she leaves this world I’m leaving USA for good.
The world doesn’t care that we left the eu the world has moved on the rest of the world just shrugs that we left the eu they couldn’t care less if we stayed or Left
The UK got into the EEC, and then the EU, at a time when it was in a strong bargaining position, and that resulted in an optimal arrangement for it to be the economic bridge between the EU and the US. Brexit put the UK outside that arrangement, and it no longer has the economic clout to negotiate anything comparable on its own.
What? The U.K. was on the brink of a financial collapse when it eventually was accepted into the EEC. In 1976 the U.K. received a £2.3 billion bailout from the IMF. In fact, from the 1940s to the 1970s, the U.K. was the heaviest user of IMF funds. It really is no wonder the U.K. left when seemingly even the people who support being in the EU seem to have no concept of the history of the UKs place in it.
@@porcupineinapettingzoo Two years later is an eternity in politics. And I'd love to see a source for "poor man of Europe," considering how large a part of the EEC's economy the UK was when it joined.
@Daniel Dickson Apologies, I meant the sick man of Europe "Throughout the late 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom was sometimes characterized as the "sick man of Europe", first by commentators, and later at home by critics of the third Wilson/Callaghan ministry due to industrial strife and poor economic performance compared with other European countries." So, if the UK was so important, why was the first UK attempt to join the EEC vetoed? Also 2 years may be a long time in politics, it's not in economics and it was economically that the UK was struggling in th early 70s.
@@danieldickson8591 Two years is a blink of an eye in economics. The U.K. was the largest user of IMF funds between WWII and the end of the 1970s. This is widely known information that the British have collectively decided to ignore because it doesn’t fit their self image.
Feels like this special relationship that keeps being mentioned is more and more turning out to be alongside the US-Irish axis. Perhaps the British had some basis to lean on in the past but its turning quite fragile.
The special relationship between Britain and the USA does not really exist, most people in Britain know this. There are strong bonds between the USA and Ireland but Ireland is the junior partner in the relationship to put it mildly.
@@jonoessex Not in soft power. The USA is made up of many nationalities and lobbies. After the Jewish community, the Irish community owns both houses of Congress and the Presidency. In military terms, everyone in the West is a junior partner and that is putting it mildly as well. Ireland is now the gateway to the EU and we are open for business.
@@jonoessex For millions of Americans saying Ireland is the minor partner is like saying grandma is the minor partner. Technically accurate but no one wants to upset grandma.
@@jonoessex Ireland is logical and knows a country of our size isn’t going to be a major world leader. Instead we offer an anti-colonial (like US) and anti-war/NATO (unlike the nations on either side of the island) Even the religious divide is dead, with a low of immigration from all over the world to Ireland. Just look who leads the Gardai (police) in Ireland. Ireland is sensible and mostly fair but with a discontent building based on the current (and fixable) two tier economy. Britain can’t even agree on Brexit, where two of their 4 states were pro-EU
There is only two countries that have a special relationship with US. It is Ireland and Israel. Uk had a poodle relationship with US from Suez and forward. Even this relationship has ended now when US let it be known that the uk armed forces is too small to be considered relevant or even desireable.
@@mrharry448 pathetic. The Irish dont need any armed forces at all. The US will protect them, and EU will to. What are you going to do with your 74000 strong army.
@@mrharry448 i read your post again and noticed that you think the Irish armed forces somehow should replace uks. That idea is even more pathetic. No the answer is more moundane. The US dont think they have any use for 72000 troops and an extra oilfuled carrier. They told uk six months ago but it was reported with small letters in uk press.
@@ulfosterberg1979 I have no problem with that. Neither do you. It is just that your comment equated the dropping of the UK on that ground with the adoption of Ireland as a new partner. Ireland is simply a Tax haven for American corporations at the moment. The EU is quite hostile to that status and it will change I am sure. Ireland is in a golden period but it has yet to meet the challenges that other European countries are facing.
The Irish Americans have fought in the USA military every single time they were asked ! In fact 60% of all medals of honor given out by usa military have -been given to Irish Americans !
@@gh8447 Lets not forget all of British colonialism; wonder if you have ever even heard of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British in one day killed between 400 to 1000 people unarmed people and injured about another 1500. Hard to find a British colony where there was not a massacre at some point.
@@jimmyg5102 Maybe take a look at most of the surnames on the Hill, or past/present residents of the whitehouse. Pretty prominent from a small island of 5 million people
We are a band of brothers, and native to the soil... fighting for our liberty with treasure, blood, and toil... Hurrah, Hurrah, for Irish rights hurrah!
Well, despite the fact that the majority in Northern Ireland voted for Sinn Fein, who are happy with the Brexit deal, Downing Street is siding with the MINORITY DUP.
@@jim-es8qk Not true Jim. Unionist parties got 41.1% of the vote. The Alliance party is undeclared and that's why Unionists hate them as much as Sinn Fein. There is no sitting on the fence up there. 100 years ago you had 75% voting for the Union. When the Irish economy is 20 times the size of NI's economy and growing within the EU. There must be plenty of young moderate unionists thinking where exactly is the UK going?
The Irish Question, an issue so old, A puzzle unsolved, a story untold. Centuries of struggle, pain, and strife, Marked by a quest for freedom and life. From oppression to revolution, the path was long, The fight for justice, the people's song. A history of conflict, loss, and grief, The Irish Question, a wound so deep. Partition and violence, a country divided, The search for peace, many have tried it. But the scars remain, the pain endures, The Irish Question, still seeking cures. Amidst the turmoil, the hope prevails, For a future where harmony prevails. A nation united, a people free, The Irish Question, finally put to sleep. Signed GP4
We don't need a trade deal with America as we already have a trade surplus. Free Movement sank Remain with the working class particularly Old Labour. Free Movement is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom. Oligarchs love immigration. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
I support almost anything that reunifies Ireland and _finally_ ends the UK. We need to end this English imperialist nightmare that has caused nothing but hardship everywhere it's had influence.
There's a significant portion of the UK that never supported Brexit, and an increasing portion that regret voting for it. Never forgive or forget the charlatans and the traitors that campaigned for it.
US/Irish trade has been replacing UK/US trade for about 6 or 7 years now. look at the published figures, if you're interested here they are - Ireland recorded $98 billion in trade with the United States, The U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom was $21.8 billion in 2019
@@peterchapman6282 It's not just corporation tax Peter. Since the 1990's US corporations have invested massively in Ireland, literally BILLIONs in direct investment by the likes of Apple, Intel, Pfizer, Abbot, Boston Scientific, Statestreet, Dell, and many more, with major R&D, manufacturing as well as administrative support for European and in many cases other markets such as Middle East and parts of Africa. Corporate US's interest in Ireland is alot more than moving money around now.
@@ralphhindle7539 yeah and China is looking for friends in this part of the world. They pay well apparently all you'd have to do is undermine the EU and the trade, military relationship it has with the US. THEY PAY WELL BORIS.
06:39 Onto Ireland… I am Irish, I have an Irish passport and I live in the North of Ireland. Suggest you look at an atlas… Colonial mindset is hard to shake off I suppose.
The economic and political reality of the US siding with Europe/Ireland on this issue is self evident. However, most people over in Europe don’t seem to understand the secondary issue which affords Ireland the support of the Americans and that is the notion that the average citizen of the US views themselves as underdogs and thus identify with Ireland which they view as possibly the quintessential underdog. As such, The Americans might have a grudging respect for the UK but in the end, they feel a kinship with the Irish, their perceived fellow “underdogs”
I like your comment but I don't agree with your premise. Irish America is the second largest ethnic group in the US. Most presidents of the US have an Irish root (even if that root is very obscure). Ireland has a special bond with the native Americans especially those of the Choctaw tribe. The ST Patrick's day parade tradition was invented in the US. The US and Ireland aren't friends... we're family.
An estimated one million people died of starvation & disease during what Britain labeled a potato famine. Two million escaped to the USA on 5000 ships, a large amount labeled coffin ships, go figure. If there is one thing your average American is interested in , it's their heritage. The descendants of two million people since the 1840s, is a lot of people. Most know by now, that enough food was exported out of Ireland by the British to feed the country twice over, it was preventable, but hey, the free market was more important. Joe Biden's family had to take that trip. Underdog? Not as simple as that friend, people forgave, but will never forget. I had a aunt that passed in the 70s at the age of 101. Her reasoning was, ' God brought the Blight, but the English brought the Famine.
@Josh Bentley🇺🇦 Yeah.... that's not true. The largest ethnic group in the US is German, followed by Irish. I don't dispute your claim that many do have British ancestry. Though that claim takes nothing away from my original comment. Britain and the US has a "special relationship" whereas Ireland and the US are family.
Possible solution is for England to cede from the union. Thereby resolving the Scottish independence question and placing the question of union back to the citizens of Northern Ireland. Brexit was really a vote for English nationalism and will only work for them if England is outside the union. A new relationship is required between the nations of these islands.
We don't need one. It works well for us as it does, we have a trade surplus. Macron just said Europe shouldn't be to close to America. The Global American Empire is in decline.
@@evolassunglasses4673 since when Biden just pumped 2 trillion into making the US the renewable energy tech leader in the world The EU are flailing with maybe 600 billion and were doing fk all
@@MrDunkycraig if you are referring to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trams-Pacific Partnership, any quick google search you care to do reveals that the USA is not a signatory.
That’s a really good interview, this guy said some things about the US British relationship and how it’s changed. Especially the Americans seeing Ireland as a bridge to the EU.
@@Jw._02 not really james old boy just facts as irish passports to english have gone through the roof the last few years and i know brexiteers who now have an irish passport
OK- I'll give you one. If we'd remained in the EU we would have had to pay into the EU Covid fund that supports weaker economies in Eastern and Southern Europe. The Irish net contribution is E17 Billion the Dutch is E40 Billion and as it's calculated using GNI the UK's contribution would have been just short of E150 Billion. How's that Rod?
@@catinthehat906 That is one of the reasons I would have happily stayed in the EU. There are others who would make better and less mean-spirited arguments
Best one no more eu people coming in on minimum wage and benefits. All now have to pay the same visa charge and nhs surcharge as me. That is a great win for the uk in money. 2k for visas and 640 for the nhs surcharge and no more benefits for eu people.
The brexiteer meltdown in the comments are hilarious. So much for that "special relationship" and the US trade deal. I recall someone saying the UK would be at the back of the queue... Guess he was right. Have a good cry little englanders. You won, right? You should get over it. Aww the comedy. Thanks for brexit to all of you.
Everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong for the British regarding Brexit. The British thought the EU would do what Britain had historically done when it came to its dealings with Ireland - they would simply ignore them. The British thought that the EU would do the same by brushing aside Ireland's concerns over the Good Friday Agreement in favor of a trade deal with the UK, but that didn't happen. I believe it was at that point that Britain realized that the Irish were no longer the weaker side when it came to its negotiations with the UK, Ireland now had the entire EU on it's side of the table and that there would be no Withdrawal Agreement signed unless the Irish were satisfied that there would be no hard border on the Island of Ireland. The Irish position was supported by the EU. Furthermore the United States made it known that they would not begin talks with the UK on a trade deal if the Good Friday Agreement was not honored by the British in its entirety. That realization must have been a very bitter pill for the British to swallow. Suddenly Ireland had more influence in the EU than Britain had, and they also had the support of a pro-Irish United States. In an effort to try and counter that reality, the British then set about trying to bypass the EU negotiators by lobbying individual EU states into supporting the UK - This attempt to divide and rule didn't work either. The EU was going to act as a single entity as far as Brexit was concerned. All the talk of having the EU over a barrel, and the "They need us more than we need them" nonsense was exposed as the negotiations moved on. Even Boris Johnson's threat to leave the EU without a trade deal fell flat on its face when Johnson signed the Withdrawal Agreement at the last minute - his bluff having been called by the EU. Of course Johnson decided he'd ignore the Northern Ireland protocol part of the agreement by hilariously claiming he hadn't read the text of the Agreement and would never have signed it if he had - which of course was a lie and a weak attempt meant to appease the Unionist DUP who claimed he had stabbed them in the back. Brexit has been a nightmare with no end in sight. It has severely limited its citizens rights to work, live and retire in the EU and it has damaged the country's standing in the world because it is no longer trusted to uphold its international agreements. Businesses have abandoned the UK and prices for everyday goods have increased to the point where it's causing severe problems for people on limited incomes. The financial sector is abandoning London in favor of Dublin and Frankfurt taking their taxable income with them. All is not lost though but it will take political stability and a change of direction if the UK is to weather this storm.
Well, we turned our back on them after much investment by the UK over a long period supporting US strategy. Obama was clear on the implications. The outcome of ignoring him was clear.
@@eddiel7635 ... I'm probably misquoting, but who recently said 'For the US, Britain was once the doorway into the EU. Now it's just a little island in the Atlantic'...? We're not of economic interest to the USA any longer. Another splendid benefit of Brexit, i suppose......
@@matthewrice3432 that’s not true though is it. We are still a UN Security Council member and a nuclear power. They export more to us than any other European country. We have soft power across the world through the commonwealth. Biden just found out we are his most reliable political partner in Europe and NATO, plus the US is strategically aligned with the UK in the pacific through Aukus and potentially the CTPTT trade agreement. Ohh and we are part of the five eyes intelligence sharing network. Biden and some democrats might not like Brexit ideologically but the political reality of how valuable the relationship with the UK is another thing.
@Eddie L Wrong. The USA exports more to the EU than the uk and the uk is not a partner. Its a US vassal state now And stop embarrassing yourself with the ctptt. Its worth 0.8% to the British economy over 15 years
Your point only has validity if EU is a power on the world stage. EU is sitting there getting ordered about by USA, they even bombed your pipeline and EU sat there helpless. Russia ignores you and China now has just told von der lying to get f...ed. but just like John Major you are living in the past. The world has changed EU is weaker than it has ever been!
@Pogo Polo And now the UK is subject to CPTPP laws (called provisions) over which the UK had no control over current ones and less control over future ones (there is no such thing as a veto in CPTPP) than EU laws. So tell me, what exactly did you win?
@Pogo Polo Why Leave EU to NOT follow laws you agreed to follow? There are no "EU" laws. There are OUR laws. Common laws we all AGREED to. No LAW was ever put in place that UK Categorically opposed it. Its not possible in EU as all member states has to agree on laws they follow. So in the end, UK left EU because it had to follow the LAWs it agreed or even proposed it self? Again the madness of brexiteers.
@Pogo Polo Just FYI, the UK shaped and set many of those 'EU laws'. And in fact, the UK set its own immigration policy always. Outside of the Schengen area, with its own visas and allowances. The UK govt *chose* to allow unrestricted migration for example from Romania, Bulgaria and other new entrants to the EU, where there was no EU law requiring them to do so. EU law specifically allowed for capping (and for the UK's own separate immigration and benefits policies), it was the UK governments that elected to allow in large amounts of immigrants - mostly because it was needed for the healthy functioning of the economy. Now the UK is downsizing migration from the EU and upscaling immigration from commonwealth countries (India, Pakistan, etc) - leaving large gaps in the workforce previously filled by EU workers (farming, trucking, nursing, etc).
There will be no peace in Northern Ireland until the English realise that Ulster does not belong to England. The Troubles were started in 1968 by the Unionists inc the RUC, backed the British government. These were the terrorists. How many died and how many Catholic homes fire bombed? All because English wanted to retain Ulster/Six Counties. Reminds me of an early Putin movie. As for Scotland, the same goes. Scotland is not a colony of England. It is a supposed equal partner in a son called voluntary union but is not allowed to leave. That sounds like the End of Empire again....with the same violent ending.
5 eyes, NATO and European security, UN security council ally, most recently the new AUKUS.. Think there's still a fairly strong relationship there.. Even if economic influence with EU has gone.
@@johnmckiernan2176 aerospace and marine manufacturing for starters... You have an axe to grind? There's an increasingly desperate need for all democratic countries to build each other up these days, not put anyone down...
Your just grasping for straws lad, the UK especially England will always be the lapdog of the US military, most US military forces consider the British peasants to be cannon fodder
Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue and that America does deals with blocks, and so it has been shown. UK was in the EU block, now we're not and therefore nobody should be shocked that we're in this state.
It was never going to happen. What, the US was going to give the UK, whose economy is roughly about the size of california and arizonia combined... if that. That the were going to give the uk access to one of the largest economies in the world, was just another of the johnson myths that his usefull idiots and English exceptulists bought. The only thing the US was interested in as far as the uk went was its health service and the people will never allow that to be compromised
Another key aspect the UK neglected is that Ireland itself is in a far stronger economic position nowadays. Even after their bubble burst the country was left with a far more developed telecommunications infrastructure, meaning among other things they can provide a viable alternative as the English-speaking US connection to the EU.
The government has really made things more difficult for its citizens and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance. it's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation,it is always the poor who take the hit.
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I do not think anyone in Ireland thinks we have a "special relationship" with the USA. A strong relationship exists based on historical ties where the interests of both parties can be promoted and this is expressed politically, diplomatically and economically but it is not a "special relationship" of elevation to which other groups cannot aspire. It is a good relationship which works well because both parties understand exactly the nature of it.
I disagree. Ireland has three important relationships: The EU, the UK and the USA. Of the UK and EU, relations are largely based on pragmatism, give and take. Most EU citizens know hardly anything about Ireland, the UK has a complicated relationship with Ireland (we're close neighbours, but most Brits are ignorant of the country and many still think of Ireland in an imperious manner. Likewise many Irish have an instinctive hatred for Britain). The American relationship is almost entirely based on goodwill. Large numbers of Americans are intimately familiar with Ireland, it's geography, culture, music and literature. Most Americans aspire to go on vacation to Ireland (the same cannot be said for Germans), and America is still probably the largest source of tourism to Ireland. American companies choose to locate in Ireland, not simply for tax reasons, but also because of the ethnic bonds of many in American business and politics to Ireland. Ireland isn't the only country that offers favourable treatment to American multinationals, but American multinationals choose us. For most of the 20th century, we were a poor backwater of a country, but America always had our back. Our relationship with America is what gives us influence in the EU, especially compared to other small countries like the baltics or Benelux. It also has historically enabled us to stand up to the UK, and prevented the UK from strong arming us, as they did in prior centuries.
@@jasonquigley2633 I agree with you. I was referring solely to the Irish relationship with the USA without reference to other important relationships Ireland has. Clearly, the relationship with the EU is critical for Ireland, especially in economic terms and the relationship with Britain is unavoidable and is, for historical reasons, complicated and requires careful management.
@@97henrik041 Yes. But it was my contention that of the 3, our relationship with the USA is strongest. Hence we do have a "special relationship" with the USA. Many Irish don't like to acknowledge it (especially back during the Iraq war) but in Ireland we really like the USA. You can get hamburgers and fries in any town, any pub. We watch American TV, listen to American music. And the USA remains the destination of choice for tourism or immigration(if they can get a visa). Likewise, Americans still love Ireland, Irish culture can be found in every state and major city in the USA. No other country of our size has that kind of heft in the American imagination. I think a lot of people in Ireland take this for granted. If you visit most any other country on Earth, be it China, Russia, France or Germany Ireland is some obscure corner of the world. They're not even sure if we speak English. But almost every American knows about us. That's why we still have a special relationship with the USA. Germany and France would throw us under the bus, despite our being part of the EU. But America, because of our long and deep ties, would not. Every St. Patrick's day, our taoiseach goes to Washington DC. He doesn't go to London, Brussels, Paris, Berlin, Tokyo or Beijing. I think that says something.
Brexit, oh Brexit, what have you done? You've split a nation, and the damage has begun. A decision made, with no thought of the cost, Now the future seems uncertain, and the line has been crossed. The world looks on, in disbelief and shame, As Britain turns its back, on the European game. Trade deals are lost, and relationships strained, The freedom we sought, has left us in pain. The promise of a brighter future, now seems so far away, The reality of the situation, dawns on us each day. The economy suffers, as businesses move away, Jobs are lost, and prices rise, in a price we must pay. Brexit, oh Brexit, what have you achieved? The answer is simple, and hard to believe. A nation divided, and a future unclear, Brexit, oh Brexit, what did we hold so dear? This was written by GP4 chat using one word...Brexit.!
" Jobs are lost "...??? er...there's actually a shortage of labour. ! Also,inflation is identical to most EU members !! Not a good ad for GP 4 but typical Remainer drivel .
Not sure about "...the new Republic of Scotland..." idea, but it is sure and certain that Ireland will be Scotland's first booster and advocate for EU membership once it gains its independence.
U.S influence is rapidly receding worldwide including Europe, and it can't do much useful today in Ireland even if it wanted to. Biden's administration was well known to be very pro Irish and anti British but Biden looks weak when you see how poor his relationships are with traditional American post war allies such as Saudi Arabia and the UK. That's on the USA, not because of the UK's democratic decisions. Much of the United Kingdom has been disillusioned with the USA since going to war with the USA over Iraq on the basis quite frankly of the Labour government trying to please the USA and keep best relations. Those days are OVER. It is no longer considered acceptable or politically savvy to go out on a limb for the whims of the White House. The relationship has been fundamentally weakened since then and we saw that landmark in 2013 when Cameron was defeated on the Syrian military intervention vote. The USA likes to think it doesn't need strong allies but the truth is if Cameron had won the Syria vote Obama would have gotten the USA more invested in Syria and intervened. It was genuinely that defeat according to Obama staffers that caused the USA to hesitate seeing it had weak support in London. So it won't be the UK going more than halfway in trying to restore this relationship, there will need to be a mutual meet in the middle. I am quite sure in time the understanding will improve, but it'll be when Biden is long gone.
Apart from tax avoidance for billionaires, and the ability for an authoritarian government to remove our rights and freedoms - Brexit isn't going very well, is it?
"Everybody knows who's to blame for political unrest in NI"? BloJo, Gove, Lord Frost, Kate Hoey, Jeffrey Donaldson, the DUP, the TUV, and Ben Habib would be the headliners....
@@XxAzureNekoxX They like to spend the most, that is their problem, guess that's where all that so called power comes from, but again they can't use it against its allies.
Obama and Biden both said after the Brexit vote that we could kiss the ‘special relationship’ was done; Well that is until they need back up in their next war!
thats problem with USA.. it all depends who is in power at the time. little consistency. You get the wrong president, then you can see a dramatic shift in policy.
@@joecater894 Yes if Trump had have been still in power there would have been NO support for the Ukraine. Trump would have made it easy for Putin, maybe a Trump Tower in Moscow as re-compence??
The UK only ever really provided political backup; 95% of the troops in Iraq (2003) were US troops with the other 5% consisting of troops from the rest of the 31 countries in the coalition (Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Uzbekistan). Sure the US will have appreciated the specialist troops (SAS etc...), but in terms of man power on the ground, the UK contribution was a very small percentage
The English have never come to terms with the atrocities they carried out in Ireland which led to the famine and rebellion. They think the Irish forced to immigrate to America just forgot about it all , they didn’t.
The indigenous natives of America are so thankful for all the Irish who infested their lands and participated in their massacres and forced internments!
I think this is all nonsense and I'm the direct descendant of Irish who left county Leitrim in the 1840's and emigrated to Australia. I came to live in the UK in the early 90's. Like historic slavery, this all happened many generations ago its time for people to move on.
@@shadowbanned636 I've lived in the UK for thirty years with an Irish name and not once have I experienced or witnessed 'cultural prejudice' against anyone Irish.
@@shadowbanned636 Oh don't be silly. Anglo/Scottish prejudice against people with some Irish background is meaningless. Against sectarians in Northern Ireland yes. The English despise religious conviction and by extension sectarians of both cloth. It seems to be Irish people who define themselves by racial purity and by blood. I don't know any English person who does. You are English by having grown up with English children's TV and that's the only measure
Let's face it, the US-EU relationship is much more valuable and volatile, than its relationship with the UK. The UK must accept and take whatever deal they get with the US....The UK does have and will have an even closer relationship with the US, but make no mistake, the US is the Senior member in this relationship and the UK must toe the line with whatever the US says.... Brexit was not only a huge joke for the UK, but a nice win for the US from prying the UK away from the EU. Either way, the UK in the EU where the US had undue influence within that organization, or outside the EU where the UK is fast becoming nothing more than a US vassal with a nicely integrated Navy and military that still surprisingly punches above its weight....You might as well start flying the stars and stripes over Westminster...lol...
Ultimately, sure.. the eu is a potentially more productive relationship in terms of GDP as its larger.. HOWEVER, it is not one country and it is not always as pro US as UK has been for a long time.. meaning... the eu are less likely than the UK to follow or back America under as many circumstances as the UK. The UK as a perm member of security council.. a nuclear power.. a major nato member and a top tier intel and military partner.. thats a bad apple cart to upset in the long term.. Reagan understood it..
Just so long as you know who is in the driving seat in the relationship. Tbf the UK has pretty much shown it does know since Suez. Just don't get too carried away in your little Brexit psychodrama and forget it.
@Tess Gess simply not the case.. UK is still a top tier country with a GDP of around 3 trillion USD (roughly same as whole of India for example). There may be some stormy waters.. but the UK is still a global power.. and it has a lot of very influential and powerful connections. Its also vital ally in the pacific region and has recently joined pacific partnership as a pretty big hitter in that arrangement. Still has a lot of soft power.
Realpolitik.....what other option does the UK have other than supporting the US globally? The UK is not going to develop a close relationship with another significant geopolitical block to replace the US and to a lessor extent the EU. Nato membership depends on a close relationship with both these blocks. If the Republicans retake the White House the relationship may get slightly easier for a UK government, though as during the (first?)Trump presidency, the Irish-American influence on both houses of Congress across both major parties, will always mean the UK need to tread very carefully when it comes to Northern Ireland/ Ireland. Not only because of the huge amount of Americans claiming Irish ancestry (that has been the case since at least the 1950's and certainlywas in the Reagan presidency), but now since 1990 the huge amount of US direct investment in Ireland. American corporations like Intel, Dell, Pfizer, Statestreet, Boston Scientific, Abbot, Johnson and Johnson, Apple and many more who have invested billions in major research and development, manufacturing and administrative sites to support their European businesses and will want US government policy to support their business interests. It is this US investment factor, plus tacit Irish logistical support to the US war effort after 9/11 that has changed the US relationship with Ireland since the days of Ronald Reagan. Going on its own to spite the US is unlikely to be a successful long term solution for the UK. The days of the UK ploughing its own furrow internationally are gone, with the UK policy on the Vietnam war in the 1960's probably the last example of a genuinely divergent UK foreign policy from the US that was of genuine significance. Can't see the UK pivoting towards the China/Russia sphere. It's the US and to a lessor extent the EU in the Western hemisphere unless the UK government is to turn its back on Western Democracy and become some sort of Chinese backed Cuba like entity on the edge of Western Europe !
@@seandoherty925 Suez has little to do with anything.. US on the other hand alone is a declining power and will need loyal allies going forwards.. the more the better.
@@joecater894 The UK was of interest to the US.....*when the UK was still a part of the EU* .Now, not so much. Third country, in decline, less and less influence. Pacific partnership bringing the UK a 0.08% GDP growth over 10 years. Big hitter indeed.
the US will always side with Ireland day in day out, brexit or full EU member :) the yanks will always side with the Irish..... why you say???? its simple, they love us :):)
@@XxAzureNekoxX lol such insight..... and btw your country would never have gained independence or grew the way it has without the Irish so dispite your lack of interest, know that many others do.
As both an Irishman and an American (having spent time in both countries) the depth of the relationship between Ireland and the USA is something I think most non-Americans and non-Irish fail to understand. Irish populations organisations are present in every state and every major city, few ethnicities have that(perhaps only African Americans and Chinese Americans). 2 of the most prominent holidays in the USA (Halloween and St Patrick's day) originate in Ireland. Every city has societies that practice Irish art forms like Irish dancing and Irish traditional music. And of course even non Irish Americans identify with the Irish struggle for independence against the British due to how it mirrors their own national myths. The minute an American hears an Irish accent, the Irishman is guaranteed good hospitality in almost any corner of the country.
From the Irish side, Irish people generally love America and it's culture (though it's taken some hits, especially during the Iraq war). Nowhere else in Europe is American culture, be it food, music, movies or TV, more prominent. Ireland is one of the only parts of Europe where you're more likely to find American style pizza than Italian style, and where you can buy a hamburger and fries in pretty much every town, even the smallest. Ireland is the hub for American businesses in Europe, almost every prominent American company you can think of is in Dublin or some other part of Ireland. It's this good will and trust between the two countries that enables such deep economic integration.
Ireland may seem small and insignificant, and in many ways it is, but it has a great deal of soft power, and you can see that being flexed in this dispute over Brexit. When it comes to policy around Ireland, Americans don't necessarily act out of calculation like they would with other countries. Americans will be driven first and foremost by their romantic feelings about Ireland, which remain very strong. If a president betrayed Ireland, they'd have to reckon with every mother who's daughter is in an Irish dancing club, every Irish pub owner in every city would collect money for the cause. There are few Morris dancing societies that would do the same for England.
The Irish Taoiseach is the only world leader who is guaranteed to meet the American president every year. There's a very good reason for that.
Well said Jason, well said.
Very well put Jason, nothing to add. Very balanced and factual.
Americans seem desperate to be Irish when they're just Americans, some delusions about being Irish seems nonsensical to the rest of the world, after 1 generation you're no longer Irish, in Australia there isn't this absurd desire to be English, Irish British or anything but Australian, even if both parents are English.
i understand a fondness for an ancestral homeland but half so called irish Americans ancestral link to Ireland is minuscule, most of them have way more English in them than Irish anyway, seem to conveniently overlook that.
Biden is even an English name, it seems hilariously parodical from over here.
you can be friends with you're nations parents that are within British isles, but you cant actually be your parents.
You're Americans, be Americans.
You've got that wrong. It was the Protestant Ulster-Scots Presbyterians who arrived 150 years before the Irish Catholics, gave you the 20 Presidents, 25 army generals and half of all of the revolutionary fighters. Recognised as being the first people to call for American freedom and played a major part in creating your Consitution.
You can see the place names..Orange County, Ulster County and the numerous towns called Belfast. The major difference being, that these settlers called themselves 'American' not Irish-American. Hence the reason that nationalist link isn't heard of. The Irish catholics ony arrived after it was all built.
@@gary637 We're both right. Most of the Irish immigration to the USA was post 1845 (the Famine), but nevertheless, the Irish have made a massive impact in American culture, that doesn't take away from the contributions of ulstermen.
The difference is that ulstermen largely melted into the general Anglo population, whereas the Irish maintained their identity, and hence their place in the American imagination.
The UK shouldn't be surprised. In reality, the special relationship was always in the minds of the British, not the US.
.. hmm, not exactly true that.. people in the US understand the value of the special relationship with the UK.. its just America isn't one entity.. obviously it consists of individuals and they have different ideas.
@@joecater894 value ? what value ? Puppets have no value to the USA other than as puppets to be sacrificed such as Ukraine,
@@joecater894
"...people in the US understand the value of the special relationship with the UK..."?
If you believe that claim, you are deluding yourself.
The USA has one, very definite, 'Special Relationship', which is with Israel.
Ireland enjoys a very close relationship with the USA. Countries around the world would sacrifice their granny for the guaranteed access Ireland has to the White House every Paddy's Day.
The reason for both of these 'Special' relationships is rooted in US DOMESTIC politics. The two most powerful political lobby groups in US politics are the Israeli and Irish lobbies. No other lobby comes close.
Successive Irish governments spent a lot of time and energy building a relationship with the Irish-American lobby, which resulted in bi-partisan support in BOTH parts of the US Congress for the Irish peace process, and the Good Friday Agreement(GFA).
Oh, and American support for Ireland when it comes to the UK government messing around with Northern Ireland(NI)...
The UK does not, and did not, have anything like that level of support across the aisle in Congress.
As Helmut Kohl pointed out; "The Special Relationship was so special that only the British knew about it!"
That special relationship did exist. Until 1945 Britain was important to them because of the colonies and the shared ownership of trans-oceanic communication cables (hence the 'Five Eyes'), by the '70 Britain had lost it's colonies and from '73 onwards it existed because Britain functioned as a US bridgehead into the EU. Since we left the EU there is no value in it any more for the USA and it ceased to exist the UK having been replaced by Ireland.
PS: During the Troubles the USA was the largest legal source of income for Sinn Fein. Donations to them were even tax deductable under US law.
@@joecater894 one is usually thinking of a countrys beliefs as the beliefs of its parliament and the main persons of its ruling parties and its civilservants who makes foregin policy and not mrs smith from milwauke.
Brexit has been a disaster. I am glad that at least the Republic of Ireland is thriving and hope Northern Ireland will be OK.
RoI is politically very shaky - the two main parties are in a desperate grand coalition to prevent Sinn Fein from assuming control. Meanwhile the EU makes RoI a dumping ground for migrants. That's at street level and won't change however many wannabee JFKs deign to make speeches waxing lyical. Irish people still head to GB as their own land is too expensive.
@@celtspeaksgoth7251You haven't a clue about Ireland. You don't even know the people hate you.
Northern Ireland economy is booming . ! Unlike ROI. Been to Dublin lately....try a visit before posting again ? You won't look such an idiot then.!
Tell that to Irishmen that can hardly afford to live maybe the wealthy elites in the financial sector are thriving but the average Irishman isn’t
@@thomasbootham2707
The average Irish man is far better off than their UK equivalent.
The claim that Irish people "...can hardly afford to live..." is hyperbolic nonsense.
As an American I can guarantee that despite our incipient civil war, the one thing we all do agree on is support for Ireland and will back Ireland unfailingly
Thank you ❤
Thanks. Love the Irish-American bond. :-)
This has always been something that is overlooked. During the 1970s I would often see IRA "Provos" in Georgetown in Washington, DC (where I was born) just casually hanging around.
Yead but when the chips are down - USA calls jupon The British Military machine, not Irelands.
Thank You!
I was just in Dublin. Ireland is clearly corporate EU HQ for so many American companies especially tech companies. I work for a Dublin, Ireland based company.
You're welcome
It is irrational to support Brexit on the grounds of national self-interest, and then demand that the EU and the US act against their own interests for our benefit.
little Englanders would rather play fantasyland in their heads and with peoples lives than be realistic. Brexit was always going to a disaster.
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🤷♂️People are are irrational?! Yet here we all are. 😂
Brexiteers demand all sorts of irrational things. and complain when it gets pointed out. sort of like 8 year olds. thats the pack we are dealt with in the UK.
A trade agreement between the UK and US or the UK and EU is not against their interests though is it.
Obama warned the UK before the Brexit referendum that the US would give priority to its trade relationship with the much larger EU.
Quite right. Most Brits knew this to be sensible and true and that the timescale would be very extended.
However trade deals with the US are frowned upon in the UK anyway because of the leverage that industrial agriculture has in their negotiation. A lot of US agricultural product does not meet anywhere near the safety standard expected and would crash any comprehensive attempt at a deal
BoJo the clown and his goons ignored this for local votes from a growing population of almost dead british pensioners
This is incorrect. Lots of Brits thought we would greeted with lots of trade deals. The fact is, Britain is not powerful anymore. We need to address this, we are a second rate power at best and the delusion that we indulge ourselves hurts us
we don't want their fda standard food why not buy from someone else for cheaper . they hate the fact we voted for brexit
@@earthervsearther5978 it is not a matter of hate, they just don’t care about the UK anymore. The UK has made itself redundant with Brexit.
There is no "impasse" in N.I. The DUP is frustrating democracy. They have taken a stance that is not tenable and for which no compromise can be found. The DUP has no choice but to accept the Windsor deal. Even if they were to start a new civil war, the outcome will be that they will either accept the Windsor deal, or see N.I. joining the RoI, which will be worse for the DUP.
There is no going back to the situation before 2016, unless the English decide to undo Brexit. But the English can't be bothered by what the DUP wants.
As an Irish man, and I say this to the UK people on here with no disrespect, but you guys NEEDED to see what the DUP was like to have to deal with on an ongoing basis. I know that many in England think of the Irish as crazy or irrational or violent etc, but it’s the guys who rabidly identify as quasi-brits in the form of the DUP that cause many of the frustrations. I mean, look what we’ve had to deal with all these years. Can you all see how hard it’s been for us to have an honest, good faith discussion with these goons now?
@@supereliptic UK citizens outside of Ireland don't think about the issues. We don't mind if you want to become United again. It doesnt effect us at all. Just as If scotland left. It's not said in any way offensive. It just doesn't effect our lives. We don't lose anything. So it should be up to you. But of course it seems some don't want that. Citizens or politicians.. I don't know, why hasn’t there been a unify vote ? If of course people want to stay in the UK then the Rep and the US can do one. Nothing to do with them. It’s purely up to the people of NI in my eyes.
The GFA was one of the few USA politics moments that was accepted as a success by all sides in the USA.
I guess they will do whatever necessary to protect it.
The GFA was never a success. Much of the violence stopped but there has never been any rapprochement between the parties in Northern Ireland.
Everyone slags off the DUP but they have a mandate and their vote has held up showing that they have the support of the vast majority of unionism. Like it or not.
It is high time the UK stopped providing economic and military support to UKRAINE and let the US, the EU and Republic of Ireland (lol) sort the Russians out themselves.
When the US need real friends it’s only ever the UK that shows up. The real power in the US understand that fact. There was no sign of RoI troops in IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN.
The views of some academic from the “Slick Willie Institute” in Dublin are irrelevant as are the opinions of an elderly-confused one-term president who has made the US a laughing stock throughout the world. (Think withdrawal from Afghanistan).
Indeed. The US Senate (before the 2022 election) passed UNANIMOUSLY (=a miracle!) Resolution 117 on Northern Ireland requiring the UK to uphold the NIP and stop threatening Art. 16.
People keep thinking it's Biden. It never was. Even the Trump administration had the same attitude.
you do realise how much of a part British Prime Ministers and the government had in making the GFA? it was very much something that was hard worked on. We are just unfortunate to live in a period of populist snake oil salesman. Our version of Trump just didn’t care about the GFA but that doesn’t mean that everyone has the same attitude.
@@widsof7862 Yes, of course we understand it, and it was seen in the warnings by Major and Blair prior to the referendum and then in the actions of May. But a lot of mediation was required between Ireland and the UK, Irish nationalists and Unionists, which is why politicians from other countries are also invested in the peace process. Even ex-PM of Finland was one of the early mediators (Harri Holkeri) of the conflict.
Yes it is also USA strategic interests to protect peace in Ireland/EU and 100s of Billions of USA investment in Ireland as a bridge to EU.
Breaking international law in limited and specific way didnt age well did it?
You mean when America destroyed Iraq Syria Libya and Afghanistan? Plus backed a coup against the then ELECTED government of Ukraine 9 years ago?
Nope very predictably
What?
@@amelio5720 the law, the UK broke it.
@@entx8491 which law?
We all remember when President Obama said Brexit would put the UK "back of the queue" for trade talks. Biden was the Vice- President at that time and he didn't disagree...
Americans will always side with Ireland over the UK. We speak the same language as the UK, but we fought the same war as the Irish. ☘☘☘☘
That wouldn't be WW2, would it? 😂
@@anthonyferris8912 Independence. :P
no you didn’t, the Irish were in a totally different situation to the US, who were just British living abroad and had the same background as the people oppressing Ireland in the first place.
@@thefunctionofjames What? The American war of Independence was fought in Ireland? Well I didn't know that!
Yes I think many British miss this. Lots of Americans who have no attachment to Ireland understand the history of Empire well enough to see the similarity between their fight for independence and Ireland's.
If the UK wishes to indulge in a frenzy of self-harm, let them. The rest of us have to get on with our own future, as best we can. ☘
'If the Tory Party wishes...'. Brexit was and is their wish , not the majority of thinking UK electorate.
@@normanchristie4524 if nobody voted for UKIP the Tory party would never have changed their tune. This is absolutely the fault of insecure British voters who did it regardless of knowing the cost because they thought nothing mattered more than saying FU to all the foreigners they decided to blame for their problems and fears.
And? What did the UK expect? Do a dumb thing,win dumb prizes.
Dumb thing? What standing by the will of the people..... Democracy!
@@danfitz5463that was corruption of lies ,fooling people is not democracy
Ireland is the greatest representative of how the UK Commonwealth treated their so called subjects in it’s greatest famine!
It was the British Empire not the Conmon Wealth.
The argument continues over whether Britain's treatment of Ireland during the Irish famine was genocide or not.
But we were just a blueprint. What Britain done to Ireland it copied all over its empire. Approximately 15 million indians were starved to death during Britains reign. Approx 3 million indians were starved to death during WWII to ensure Britain had a steady food supply.
Britain broke Ireland into two. But it broke India into 3.
@karmakazi
How many live have been saved?
At what cost did this modernisation take?
If you read my comments very very carefully you will see I did not in fact say that Britain was the inventor of starvation because to claim something like that would be moronic. What I did state was the fact that under British rule both Ireland and India had millions starve because of British government policy. Is that an incorrect statement?
You get treated better than my country Wales and SCOTLAND..Ireland you tuck my ancestors as slaves so I wish we could have independence from england
and think of are selves.
Poverty killed the Irish during the famine. Laissez-faire political thinking and 'work through poverty' were the main reasons it didn't help them. Europe had its own massive famines, yet we only hear about Ireland. Despite there being two previous famines in Ireland which killed many more people, the 'famous' famine co-incided with a nationalist uprising in Ireland. It was used to whip up xenophobia and hatred of the British. A useful propaganda tool for ultra nationalist extremists.
They took that bitter hatred to America where it still festers as 'Bigot Biden' and the millions of dollars, the Irish Americans raised to fund and arm the IRA terror group through Noriaid. That's the most significant Irish-USA link.
@Gary
"Poverty" that's an unnecessary name for the policies imposed on Ireland by a British government who continued to export food from an island where a million people starved to death. The response wasn't as muted to Scotland as it was Ireland.
The famine did not infact 'co-incide' with an uprising. What a great uprising a country of literally starving people would make. The uprising that followed some 50 years later... was largely due to the handling of the famine by the British empire and their laissez-faire politics.
The bitter hatred for what is considered genocide by many is justified. We all hate the nazis too (imagine your countries history being compared to the nazis, well done). The Orange Terror in the North of Ireland (not to be confused with the Orange Order) was entirely funded and armed by British authorities leading to the partition of Ireland. Those same men of the Orange Terror brought their hatred to the new world also. The followers of William of Orange in the new world simply became known as 'hillbillys'.
Talk about being put in your place...... The US President Biden, went to the North for half a day to meet with the uk Prime Minister and 3 days to meet with The Irish President, The Taoiseach, The Irish Parliament and the People of Ireland. 😀😀😀
America has long been an ally of Irish Republicanism and a United Ireland is inevitable now England has made the folly of Brexit.
Cheers from Dublin ☘
Mama Duck are you actually aware of the conditions in the Irish Republic at the moment? The massive homelessness crisis the collapse of the health care system or the mass importation of unvetted male immigrants from Eastern Europe and sub Saharan Africa that has led to protests by the ordinary working class people on at least a weekly basis.
@@kathleenmcmanus8509 are you currently aware of the conditions in Brexit? England is more or less the same they’re having my massive strikes about it. 😂😂😂😂 get your self educated
Divided islands only cause problems. See also Cyprus.
@@ettoreatalan8303 so continents with different countries are not a thing in your wheelhouse then are they? I think there have been a few problems in Europe and Africa within living memory
Any trade deal is decided by the Congress in reality. However, Ireland has influence on both sides. So Trump could say what he wanted to say, but this was never going anywhere without protection for the GFA. That meant that the NI Protocol would have to be honoured. Ireland has shown that they are the real masters of soft power and not ourselves.
Congress " friends of ireland are the ones stopping it. Both partys too
Ireland has influence in America that it has used in a vindictive and bullying fashion against Britain. Nothing for them to be proud of in that behaviour.
Exactly, The Economist reported a few years ago that the Irish are a global superpower in relation to soft power. And, USA has always said - on both sides of the aisle - that Ireland is a priority.
Northern ireland might join Israel as an increasingly partisan issue, with Democrats pandering to their Irish american/Catholic supporters, and gop opposing them for the sake of culture war spite
That is a bonus for Ireland but even if no Irish lobby in Congress it is USA strategic interests to protect GFA peace in Ireland and to maintain Ireland/EU links.
Anyone who has been to Ireland on the 4th of July or the USA on St Patrick's day you understand that unlike the UK that thinks it has special relationship, Ireland DOES HAVE.
Spot on
Greetings from Dublin ☘💚
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Superpowers don't have special relations, if anything they have interests.
If the USA has any special relation to a country, it is Israel: Ireland second position. UK? 'That's the small island near Europe, right??'
I've looked at reports that the UK military isn't what it used to be.
Two of the biggest holidays in states are.
1. Saint Patrick's day that we celebrate with huge parades from the smallest towns to the biggest cities and say "everyone is Irish"
2. Independence day that we celebrate with huge parades from the smallest towns to the biggest cities kicking the king of England out.
LOL
oh, I love this! Never thought about it b/4
Well the British in America kicking out their own king to make a republic which is very different to the oppression by a foreign country in Ireland.
@@widsof7862 Well that is true but today USA is a much different country. Much more diverse.
Irish American, dad born and bred in Limerick and I agree with this guy. I also work for an Irish company and spend a lot of time there business and pleasure. First off there is huge Irish stock in America and Irish have done a lot for America from American revolution to the civil war when over 100,000 fought for the union to building many of our cities and pivotal in the creation of unions. Second with the UK out of the EU, Ireland is natural replacement bridge. I see this all the time in my job with all the business connections.
Legends
100% 👍
@@garyfletcher1910 what trade deal and Eire is a member of the EU a 400 million population and much larger economy. We have over 5,000 nukes we don't any from little england.
@@garyfletcher1910 not a fan of that racist.
@@garyfletcher1910 We've better Horses too Son, now that you mentioned it 😜
The reporter was desperately trying to find something positive for the GB. The answer was non no no, GB is not so important the EU is. Go figure, have you made a mistake? Maybe a very big one?
The guy being interviewed is an academic that has been sulking ever since the referendum. It has become his schtick. I don't place much weight on what he has to say.
No.
@@markperrin8098 No, said the ostrich with its head in the sand.
For god sakes do not open your eyes chief
@@vattenpoel1328 Our wonderful Brexit victory is a triumph for the UK.
The EU is a shrinking violet that is constantly losing its share of world GDP.
Wake up and smell the coffee before your country is finished.
@@markperrin8098 Obviously you've put your X in the wrong box Pal, and yeah, don't ever open your eyes. 😂
Why are English people surprised by good Irish us relations?.
I'm English 🏴 and not surprised at all, also not even bothered about this fantasy special relationship that is mentioned between England 🏴 and America 🇺🇲, we all know there isn't one I think most of the English 🏴 population aren't even bothered tbh. Good for Ireland 🇮🇪 and the USA 🇺🇲.
Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving, as long as you are NOT british 😂😂😂
To crown it all, the EU still needs the Huxit.
Huxit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union
I'm English. I can't explain in words how much Brexit annoys me.
It was a democratic vote deal with it I don’t like brexit either but I’ve accepted the vote and got on with my life if Britain can survive the winter of discontent and also the Second World War then we can survive brexit it’s not the end of the world
@@thomasbootham2707 you're completely missing the point. Brexit was self-inflicted, unlike your other examples. I don't need to be told it's not the end of the world, I never said it was, I said how much it annoys me.
@@thomasbootham2707 you survived ww2 with thanks to Russia and the USA, your goose was cooked if not for them and you know it, if you don't, stick to reading the daily mail
The unionist’s and british will always be second in the queue behind the Irish in America, at least until the unionists realise they are Irish themselves.
Ian parsley once said "you cannot be an Ulsterman without being an Irishman".
Go over to NI and let them know that. Send us a postcard to let us know how it goes.
Unionists have far far more in common with their nationalist neighbours than they do with any persons in mainland UK. Go figure.
If this wasn’t clear to the brexiteers then that just adds to the tragedy. Brexit was a conscious act of self harm for absolutely no benefit. And it remains unfathomable to me.
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Nonsense
I’m glad you both replied. If we ever make a single additional £1 from Brexit or achieve a single objective collective benefit from that rank stupidity you are welcome to tell me I’m wrong. The IMF and the world bank have assessed our economic loss to be 4% of gdp and counting. Let’s see how this goes?
The first role of any government is too defend it's own people.
UK and US narrative is that Russia and China are a threat to Western Civilization and that heavy spending in defence, both conventional and cyber being necessary.
The Republic of Ireland clearly don't think so and "risk" the safety of their nation . No visits to Kiev, no tanks for Zelensky, hoping being neutral will save them from all ill's.
Sure the Brexiteers knew the ramifications but most don't live in Northern Ireland, other things are salient to them.
@@gedog77
Brexit part has been in charge for over a decade.
Anything bad is 100% their fault.
We need to get along 🇺🇸 🇮🇪 🇬🇧 🇪🇺
We all know England is the problem
That is exactly the correct point and is the strongest argument for me, the UK is a democracy, so is Ireland and all nations of the EU and the USA.
We have the same issues and problems and we will solve them
Together.
I have not seen anyone else mention how much brexit was awful for the US in terms of strategic relations. The UK used to offer the English speaking world a perfect platform on which to engage with Europe/EU. By pursuing brexit, the UK has drastically diminished its power on the world stage and undermined the prior US plans to rely on the UK as the window into the EU.
Obviously the UK can do as it likes, but shooting itself and its Allies in the foot is not exactly advisable or commendable. The US and UK relationship will remain strong because of our shared personal and cultural ties, but to the extent the UK is determined to destabilize the peace in Ireland the US will push back. As I would hope they would.
Used to . Thats the BS the education system teaches. Truth is genocide starvation and cruelty
For the record, Steve Bannon pushed it along with Nigel Farage. Bannon likes the Alexander Duggin philosophy and creates chaos like Jan 6 mess.
Spot on. The U.K. was recipient of a disproportionately large amount of US FDI because it provided - same language, understandable legal system and contracts, global finance centre linked to NY - and all of this within the EU, the perfect location for “EMEA” HQs and market entry platform for the EU itself. Thrown away. And FDI is more important for the U.K. than most countries - as Carney said, we rely on “the kindness of strangers” to support our currency our borrowing capacity and thus our economy.
The UK betrayed the commonwealth, particularly New Zealand, when joining the EEC. Fast forward they then betray the EU to rekindle ties with the commonwealth who are now weary. Mix that with all the other acts of betrayal, holding other nations gold etc, the UK simply cannot be trusted
24 out of the top 25 US tech companies have their European headquarters in Ireland, this was the case even before Brexit. Tiny little Ireland with a population of only five million has gobbled up much of the US FDI money. Brexit makes Ireland even more attractive.
The English used to make jokes about the Irish being 'thick'... Brexit one big sick English joke.
Used to? We still do, ye fecking eejit!
And a embarrassment to the uk torie government
Britain was America's English speaking supporter in the EU, with Brexit it no longer is, its the Republic of Ireland.
I sincerely hope the relations between Ireland and the UK, will improve in 2024. The British government has done a lot of damage to the Good Friday agreement, which is so sad. The world needs peace like never before. 🕊
If someone breaks the law would you complain that the police are taking sides when they arrest the criminal?
The USA is a legal guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement. Therefore they are legally obliged to do whatever they can to maintain the Good Friday Agreement. They're the policeman in this case.
The UK is doing everything it can to break a legally binding agreement therefore the USA is legally obliged to side with the Ireland and the EU. It's part of their job description.
All for a tiny group of people in Northern Ireland who are triggered if they can't buy the right brand of sausages.
The Good Friday agreement would be guaranteed by the US insisting on customs borders being between the EU and Ireland not between the UK and another part of the UK.
@@mrharry448 Britain and even the UK as a whole is disunited politically, socially, culturally and linguistically.
The poor political choices and decisions of Brexit have made the lack of unity ever clearer for the entire world to see.
It's not just disunited, it's also completely imbalanced.
Politically, it has devolved governments, but most of the power lies in Tory Westminster which has the UK at political loggerheads. These devolved governments squabble and fight amongst each other which details the disunity.
Brexit was divisive and it shows how disunited the UK is with the occupied region called "Northern Ireland" and the country of Scotland voting No to Brexit.
The UK is literally split down the middle in the Brexit debacle which makes it politically disunited.
Furthermore, the UK isn't a voluntary union because Scotland is actively being denied another independence referendum post Brexit - this, again, makes it a disunited partnership + an imbalanced and undemocratic one.
Welsh and Scottish independence is growing while talks of Irish reunification are on everyone's lips - this, again, demonstrates a disunited and imbalanced union.
Socially, culturally and linguistically it is also divided and disunited as the different parts have their own culture and language + Britain has become increasingly "British Asian".
Brexit itself limits multiculturalism and encourages exclusive nationalism and nativism which in effect breeds racism and xenophobia (the very core of Brexit and Brexiteers).
Try convincing yourself that Grim Britain is united, but it's DISUNITED and IMBALANCED as well as UNDEMOCRATIC and UNJUST.
And it's actively breaking up which is the ultimate win 😅
@@mrharry448
Repetition of your nonsense will not magically remove the 'non; while leaving a trace of 'sense'....
The USA was never in a position to demand "...customs borders being between the EU and Ireland ..."
Why should Ireland have to suffer because of the Brixiteers self-mutilating stupidity?
The EU will NEVER agree to put up a border between its own member states.
@@mrharry448 Pss, I will tell you a secret. Don't tell other Brexiteers, as it might be to big a shock to their world view for their feeble minds to handle: Ireland is part of the EU, not any more a colony of the United Kingdom.
Why would Ireland leave the customs union to save the United Kingdom from a border in the Irish sea, necessitated by decision of the United Kingdom (better: England) to leave the customs union? Is that in the interest of Ireland? No. That border makes re-unification of Ireland more likely. Is that a moral obligation from the historical favours bestowed on Ireland by the British? Well, answer for yourself. If in doubt, read a bit on the years after 1845.
@@mrharry448 GFA requires and open border so the customs border must be the Irish Sea.
Why wouldn't they? EU are huge market.
This isn't a them or us situation because US can still set up trade with UK 😊
The UK was a bridge between the USA and Europe, now they've thrown that unique position away and Ireland have taken that role.
I think this commentator underestimates Britain's ability to complete trade deals quickly, they just offer the other side everything in return for nothing and this brings about a rapid conclusion.
@msmissy6888 Maybe you could say why you think it's wrong.
Ireland has been the corporate bridge across the Atlantic for 30 years. Just take a walk around Dublin or Cork and look at all the big American companies there especially tech like Apple, Microsoft, Meta, Google, Oracle, etc.
@@timlinator Ireland's low corporation tax did that but Ireland carried little influence in the EU.
Another thing to consider is that Catholics in America generally side with Ireland as well because they also faced discrimination from Anglos and you see a lot of intermarriage like between Irish & Italians, Irish & Mexicans, Polish, etc. As to the EU probably more than half of Americans have ancestry to one or more EU nation including many that qualify for citizenship through decent.
Yep, I’m American and have EU citizenship through decent. I think once these older generations go away (the ones concerned about “national origin”) the US/world relations will be a lot better. I’m so tired of arrogance and pride segregating America-something more common in people born between the 1940s and 70s. Biden was born in 1942.
@@ImOk... I’m also a dual actually triple citizen of USA, Ireland and Italy and have lived abroad as well as travelled internationally extensively both business and pleasure. I have friends and family in several countries and just consider myself a global citizen. Most politicians of both parties are dinosaurs. The world will be a better place after they go extinct.
@@timlinator haha, agreed. I too have traveled quite a bit. Born in the late 80s. I actually have USA, British and Greek citizenship. Triple like you. I feel privileged to have a wider, more open view about the world. I never EVER consider myself better than anyone. If anything I’m just more interested in different cultures. I can vibe with anyone. These old schoolers need to go.
@@ImOk... yes I love traveling the world and learning about different cultures. The only thing that keeps me in the states is my aging mom. After she leaves this world I’m leaving USA for good.
@@timlinator you and me both buddy!
This was pretty expected, but I think this is the first time that many Brits realise how Brexit has changed how the world is viewing them.
I have the impression that the USA consider Germany is the most reliable ally in Europe
The world doesn’t care that we left the eu the world has moved on the rest of the world just shrugs that we left the eu they couldn’t care less if we stayed or Left
I think the English 🏴 also don't care how we're viewed. I know I don't care anymore. Someone is always gonna hate anyway so why worry.
The UK got into the EEC, and then the EU, at a time when it was in a strong bargaining position, and that resulted in an optimal arrangement for it to be the economic bridge between the EU and the US. Brexit put the UK outside that arrangement, and it no longer has the economic clout to negotiate anything comparable on its own.
The UK entered the EEC as the poor man of Europe needing the world's largest bailout two years after joining, some bargaining position!
What? The U.K. was on the brink of a financial collapse when it eventually was accepted into the EEC. In 1976 the U.K. received a £2.3 billion bailout from the IMF. In fact, from the 1940s to the 1970s, the U.K. was the heaviest user of IMF funds.
It really is no wonder the U.K. left
when seemingly even the people who support being in the EU seem
to have no concept of the history of the UKs place in it.
@@porcupineinapettingzoo Two years later is an eternity in politics. And I'd love to see a source for "poor man of Europe," considering how large a part of the EEC's economy the UK was when it joined.
@Daniel Dickson Apologies, I meant the sick man of Europe "Throughout the late 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom was sometimes characterized as the "sick man of Europe", first by commentators, and later at home by critics of the third Wilson/Callaghan ministry due to industrial strife and poor economic performance compared with other European countries."
So, if the UK was so important, why was the first UK attempt to join the EEC vetoed?
Also 2 years may be a long time in politics, it's not in economics and it was economically that the UK was struggling in th early 70s.
@@danieldickson8591 Two years is a blink of an eye in economics. The U.K. was the largest user of IMF funds between WWII and the end of the 1970s. This is widely known information that the British have collectively decided to ignore because it doesn’t fit their self image.
Feels like this special relationship that keeps being mentioned is more and more turning out to be alongside the US-Irish axis. Perhaps the British had some basis to lean on in the past but its turning quite fragile.
The special relationship between Britain and the USA does not really exist, most people in Britain know this. There are strong bonds between the USA and Ireland but Ireland is the junior partner in the relationship to put it mildly.
Until the US invades somewhere?
@@jonoessex Not in soft power. The USA is made up of many nationalities and lobbies. After the Jewish community, the Irish community owns both houses of Congress and the Presidency. In military terms, everyone in the West is a junior partner and that is putting it mildly as well. Ireland is now the gateway to the EU and we are open for business.
@@jonoessex For millions of Americans saying Ireland is the minor partner is like saying grandma is the minor partner. Technically accurate but no one wants to upset grandma.
@@jonoessex Ireland is logical and knows a country of our size isn’t going to be a major world leader. Instead we offer an anti-colonial (like US) and anti-war/NATO (unlike the nations on either side of the island)
Even the religious divide is dead, with a low of immigration from all over the world to Ireland. Just look who leads the Gardai (police) in Ireland.
Ireland is sensible and mostly fair but with a discontent building based on the current (and fixable) two tier economy.
Britain can’t even agree on Brexit, where two of their 4 states were pro-EU
There is only two countries that have a special relationship with US. It is Ireland and Israel. Uk had a poodle relationship with US from Suez and forward. Even this relationship has ended now when US let it be known that the uk armed forces is too small to be considered relevant or even desireable.
How big are the Irish armed forces then if they are a substitute
@@mrharry448 we dont need an army thanks to America, no chance of the brits invading again
@@mrharry448 pathetic. The Irish dont need any armed forces at all. The US will protect them, and EU will to. What are you going to do with your 74000 strong army.
@@mrharry448 i read your post again and noticed that you think the Irish armed forces somehow should replace uks. That idea is even more pathetic. No the answer is more moundane. The US dont think they have any use for 72000 troops and an extra oilfuled carrier. They told uk six months ago but it was reported with small letters in uk press.
@@ulfosterberg1979 I have no problem with that. Neither do you. It is just that your comment equated the dropping of the UK on that ground with the adoption of Ireland as a new partner. Ireland is simply a Tax haven for American corporations at the moment. The EU is quite hostile to that status and it will change I am sure.
Ireland is in a golden period but it has yet to meet the challenges that other European countries are facing.
What the British will never understand is that Britain might have a special relationship, but the Irish and Americans are family!
The Irish Americans have fought in the USA military every single time they were asked ! In fact 60% of all medals of honor given out by usa military have -been given to Irish Americans !
And let's not forget Americans funded Irish terrorism.
@@gh8447 Lets not forget all of British colonialism; wonder if you have ever even heard of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the British in one day killed between 400 to 1000 people unarmed people and injured about another 1500. Hard to find a British colony where there was not a massacre at some point.
@@gh8447 one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter!
Yes we have CANZUK, thanks. The US family is more German/African/Mexican than British or Irish.
the US will always side with Ireland, and has done since the famine (Ironically), it really sticks in the craw of the brits
This isnt true is it
@@jimmyg5102 Maybe take a look at most of the surnames on the Hill, or past/present residents of the whitehouse. Pretty prominent from a small island of 5 million people
"I'd like a unicorn for Christmas" 😂😂
We are a band of brothers, and native to the soil... fighting for our liberty with treasure, blood, and toil...
Hurrah, Hurrah, for Irish rights hurrah!
💯🍻
Well, despite the fact that the majority in Northern Ireland voted for Sinn Fein, who are happy with the Brexit deal, Downing Street is siding with the MINORITY DUP.
Should take a billion to pay them off. Where the money goes like the Teresa May pay offs no one is clear.
No no 10 sided with sinn fein as they pushed the deal through
They didn't, the majority voted for unionist parties. The unionist vote split to punish the DUP.
@@jim-es8qk The DUP punished themselves by believing in Brexit.
@@jim-es8qk Not true Jim. Unionist parties got 41.1% of the vote. The Alliance party is undeclared and that's why Unionists hate them as much as Sinn Fein. There is no sitting on the fence up there. 100 years ago you had 75% voting for the Union. When the Irish economy is 20 times the size of NI's economy and growing within the EU. There must be plenty of young moderate unionists thinking where exactly is the UK going?
Cead mile failte big Joe.
Dia is muire duit cara 🕊️🇮🇪🇺🇲
Fán abhaile, Joe.
I can see the keyboard warriors scrambling for google translate with that one!.
* a chara. D -. Must try harder.
@@sotlad *Slán or Fan, not Fán. I'm beginning to think these commenters might not be fluent in the Irish language, captain.
The Irish Question, an issue so old,
A puzzle unsolved, a story untold.
Centuries of struggle, pain, and strife,
Marked by a quest for freedom and life.
From oppression to revolution, the path was long,
The fight for justice, the people's song.
A history of conflict, loss, and grief,
The Irish Question, a wound so deep.
Partition and violence, a country divided,
The search for peace, many have tried it.
But the scars remain, the pain endures,
The Irish Question, still seeking cures.
Amidst the turmoil, the hope prevails,
For a future where harmony prevails.
A nation united, a people free,
The Irish Question, finally put to sleep.
Signed GP4
So true so poignant thank you
Ah I enjoyed reading this 👍. The medium of this sentiment, poetry, is so essentially Irish.... nice one 👏.
Fair. In the post-Brexit madness, "Great" Britain only has a special relationship with itself. One of the 48%.
Keep crying Mr 48
The damage caused by Johnson and his self serving narcissistic cabal of hyenas will be with the UK for decades to come.
Do you say the same for Norway, Switzerland and Iceland?
@@Dezzasheep I'm set up, mate. Laughing at your collective stupidity, rather than crying. Your act of self-harm didn't really harm me. Go nuts!
We don't need a trade deal with America as we already have a trade surplus.
Free Movement sank Remain with the working class particularly Old Labour. Free Movement is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom. Oligarchs love immigration. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
I support almost anything that reunifies Ireland and _finally_ ends the UK. We need to end this English imperialist nightmare that has caused nothing but hardship everywhere it's had influence.
Certainly. 🏴
There's a significant portion of the UK that never supported Brexit, and an increasing portion that regret voting for it. Never forgive or forget the charlatans and the traitors that campaigned for it.
Biden seems to self-identify as Irish.
That’s because he’s Irish American
@@userillusion86 and strong Zionist shill.
@@userillusion86
No he is not, he is of direct English descent.
Typical American, 3.1% Irish heritage, I'm Irish now.
@@amelio5720 10 of his great great grandparents were irish
US/Irish trade has been replacing UK/US trade for about 6 or 7 years now. look at the published figures, if you're interested here they are - Ireland recorded $98 billion in trade with the United States, The U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom was $21.8 billion in 2019
Yes, but that’s because we allow many US Irish-based companies to sell into the UK market and pay little or no tax.
@@peterchapman6282 It's not just corporation tax Peter. Since the 1990's US corporations have invested massively in Ireland, literally BILLIONs in direct investment by the likes of Apple, Intel, Pfizer, Abbot, Boston Scientific, Statestreet, Dell, and many more, with major R&D, manufacturing as well as administrative support for European and in many cases other markets such as Middle East and parts of Africa. Corporate US's interest in Ireland is alot more than moving money around now.
maybe when the next US war starts they can leave the UK military out and ask the Irish military for help
@@ralphhindle7539 follow the money ....what matters to corporate America and thus the US government.....
@@ralphhindle7539 yeah and China is looking for friends in this part of the world. They pay well apparently all you'd have to do is undermine the EU and the trade, military relationship it has with the US.
THEY PAY WELL BORIS.
06:39
Onto Ireland…
I am Irish, I have an Irish passport and I live in the North of Ireland.
Suggest you look at an atlas…
Colonial mindset is hard to shake off I suppose.
You live in Donegal then? Not Northern Ireland.
The economic and political reality of the US siding with Europe/Ireland on this issue is self evident. However, most people over in Europe don’t seem to understand the secondary issue which affords Ireland the support of the Americans and that is the notion that the average citizen of the US views themselves as underdogs and thus identify with Ireland which they view as possibly the quintessential underdog.
As such, The Americans might have a grudging respect for the UK but in the end, they feel a kinship with the Irish, their perceived fellow “underdogs”
And the fact the the UK is more similar to a middle eastern country in the rain. You destroyed your own culture and
you cant even see it.
I like your comment but I don't agree with your premise. Irish America is the second largest ethnic group in the US. Most presidents of the US have an Irish root (even if that root is very obscure). Ireland has a special bond with the native Americans especially those of the Choctaw tribe. The ST Patrick's day parade tradition was invented in the US. The US and Ireland aren't friends... we're family.
An estimated one million people died of starvation & disease during what Britain labeled a potato famine. Two million escaped to the USA on 5000 ships, a large amount labeled coffin ships, go figure. If there is one thing your average American is interested in , it's their heritage. The descendants of two million people since the 1840s, is a lot of people. Most know by now, that enough food was exported out of Ireland by the British to feed the country twice over, it was preventable, but hey, the free market was more important. Joe Biden's family had to take that trip.
Underdog? Not as simple as that friend, people forgave, but will never forget. I had a aunt that passed in the 70s at the age of 101. Her reasoning was, ' God brought the Blight, but the English brought the Famine.
@@Jcolbert123 44/46 US presidents have British ancestry (including Biden).
You can make the exact same statement with Brits and Americans.
@Josh Bentley🇺🇦
Yeah.... that's not true.
The largest ethnic group in the US is German, followed by Irish.
I don't dispute your claim that many do have British ancestry. Though that claim takes nothing away from my original comment.
Britain and the US has a "special relationship" whereas Ireland and the US are family.
Possible solution is for England to cede from the union. Thereby resolving the Scottish independence question and placing the question of union back to the citizens of Northern Ireland. Brexit was really a vote for English nationalism and will only work for them if England is outside the union. A new relationship is required between the nations of these islands.
I would love for England 🏴 to be independent, if only they gave us a choice. Unlike Scotland 🏴, England 🏴 never gets asked.
If there is a trade deal it will be in the interests of 🇺🇸 and they will sign one with the 🇪🇺 but never with us.
We don't need one. It works well for us as it does, we have a trade surplus.
Macron just said Europe shouldn't be to close to America. The Global American Empire is in decline.
@@evolassunglasses4673 since when Biden just pumped 2 trillion into making the US the renewable energy tech leader in the world
The EU are flailing with maybe 600 billion and were doing fk all
We just signed the pacific deal that includes the USA
@@MrDunkycraig if you are referring to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trams-Pacific Partnership, any quick google search you care to do reveals that the USA is not a signatory.
@@evolassunglasses4673 keep on beliving your own bullsquat Im sure you will live in peace with your future poverty
That’s a really good interview, this guy said some things about the US British relationship and how it’s changed. Especially the Americans seeing Ireland as a bridge to the EU.
It’s time the U.K. ended this one sided ‘special relationship’ with America.
Good bye British peasant, you and your German monarchs won’t be missed
And who is the UK gonna turn to ?????, Nobody wants the UK anymore, it is failing in all matrics.
It’s a fact that little englanders can’t get their head round. Simply since the uk left the EU the American access to the EU no longer via the uk
half those little englanders are now checking if they ahve an irish granny to try and get an irish passport
@@Jw._02 but right they are checking
@@Jw._02 not really james old boy just facts as irish passports to english have gone through the roof the last few years and i know brexiteers who now have an irish passport
Still waiting for these Brexit benefits , selling to the Pacific hasn't flaoted my boat yet
OK- I'll give you one. If we'd remained in the EU we would have had to pay into the EU Covid fund that supports weaker economies in Eastern and Southern Europe. The Irish net contribution is E17 Billion the Dutch is E40 Billion and as it's calculated using GNI the UK's contribution would have been just short of E150 Billion.
How's that Rod?
@@catinthehat906 That is one of the reasons I would have happily stayed in the EU.
There are others who would make better and less mean-spirited arguments
@@catinthehat906 How many of your people died during Covid again?
Best one no more eu people coming in on minimum wage and benefits. All now have to pay the same visa charge and nhs surcharge as me. That is a great win for the uk in money. 2k for visas and 640 for the nhs surcharge and no more benefits for eu people.
If the UK is solely concerned with money, Russia would be the right trading partner.
The brexiteer meltdown in the comments are hilarious.
So much for that "special relationship" and the US trade deal.
I recall someone saying the UK would be at the back of the queue... Guess he was right.
Have a good cry little englanders. You won, right? You should get over it.
Aww the comedy. Thanks for brexit to all of you.
The only thing I've bought from the US is a sweet potato.
Everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong for the British regarding Brexit. The British thought the EU would do what Britain had historically done when it came to its dealings with Ireland - they would simply ignore them. The British thought that the EU would do the same by brushing aside Ireland's concerns over the Good Friday Agreement in favor of a trade deal with the UK, but that didn't happen.
I believe it was at that point that Britain realized that the Irish were no longer the weaker side when it came to its negotiations with the UK, Ireland now had the entire EU on it's side of the table and that there would be no Withdrawal Agreement signed unless the Irish were satisfied that there would be no hard border on the Island of Ireland. The Irish position was supported by the EU. Furthermore the United States made it known that they would not begin talks with the UK on a trade deal if the Good Friday Agreement was not honored by the British in its entirety.
That realization must have been a very bitter pill for the British to swallow. Suddenly Ireland had more influence in the EU than Britain had, and they also had the support of a pro-Irish United States.
In an effort to try and counter that reality, the British then set about trying to bypass the EU negotiators by lobbying individual EU states into supporting the UK - This attempt to divide and rule didn't work either. The EU was going to act as a single entity as far as Brexit was concerned. All the talk of having the EU over a barrel, and the "They need us more than we need them" nonsense was exposed as the negotiations moved on. Even Boris Johnson's threat to leave the EU without a trade deal fell flat on its face when Johnson signed the Withdrawal Agreement at the last minute - his bluff having been called by the EU.
Of course Johnson decided he'd ignore the Northern Ireland protocol part of the agreement by hilariously claiming he hadn't read the text of the Agreement and would never have signed it if he had - which of course was a lie and a weak attempt meant to appease the Unionist DUP who claimed he had stabbed them in the back.
Brexit has been a nightmare with no end in sight. It has severely limited its citizens rights to work, live and retire in the EU and it has damaged the country's standing in the world because it is no longer trusted to uphold its international agreements. Businesses have abandoned the UK and prices for everyday goods have increased to the point where it's causing severe problems for people on limited incomes. The financial sector is abandoning London in favor of Dublin and Frankfurt taking their taxable income with them. All is not lost though but it will take political stability and a change of direction if the UK is to weather this storm.
N ireland is Ireland.
It’s reality check for the uk
A history of alliance. Roosevelt-Churchill; Reagan-Thatcher; Bush-Blair; Biden-EU.
Biden - Biden
Well, we turned our back on them after much investment by the UK over a long period supporting US strategy. Obama was clear on the implications. The outcome of ignoring him was clear.
Clinton - Kohl in the 1990s
all countries act in their own self interest, that the US now gets more return from a good relationship with the EU is down to the UK's own stupidity.
One of these things is not like the other 😅
Biden’s unspoken message: Know your place Brexit Britain
It’s irrelevant, you can’t have this trade agreement that isn’t on the table anyway 🤷🏻♂️
@@eddiel7635 for clarity, the message is: Brexit Britain, you’re just not as important as you once were.
@@eddiel7635 ... I'm probably misquoting, but who recently said 'For the US, Britain was once the doorway into the EU. Now it's just a little island in the Atlantic'...?
We're not of economic interest to the USA any longer.
Another splendid benefit of Brexit, i suppose......
@@matthewrice3432 that’s not true though is it. We are still a UN Security Council member and a nuclear power. They export more to us than any other European country. We have soft power across the world through the commonwealth. Biden just found out we are his most reliable political partner in Europe and NATO, plus the US is strategically aligned with the UK in the pacific through Aukus and potentially the CTPTT trade agreement. Ohh and we are part of the five eyes intelligence sharing network. Biden and some democrats might not like Brexit ideologically but the political reality of how valuable the relationship with the UK is another thing.
@Eddie L
Wrong. The USA exports more to the EU than the uk and the uk is not a partner. Its a US vassal state now
And stop embarrassing yourself with the ctptt. Its worth 0.8% to the British economy over 15 years
All this hard medicine we have to take will be good for us in the end. The UK needs to redefine itself on the world stage. Leaving the EU was madness.
Biggest act of self sabotage, done by a bunch of dumbf*cks.this country deserves everything it has coming to it
Your point only has validity if EU is a power on the world stage. EU is sitting there getting ordered about by USA, they even bombed your pipeline and EU sat there helpless. Russia ignores you and China now has just told von der lying to get f...ed. but just like John Major you are living in the past. The world has changed EU is weaker than it has ever been!
@Pogo Polo And now the UK is subject to CPTPP laws (called provisions) over which the UK had no control over current ones and less control over future ones (there is no such thing as a veto in CPTPP) than EU laws.
So tell me, what exactly did you win?
@Pogo Polo
Why Leave EU to NOT follow laws you agreed to follow?
There are no "EU" laws. There are OUR laws. Common laws we all AGREED to.
No LAW was ever put in place that UK Categorically opposed it. Its not possible in EU as all member states has to agree on laws they follow.
So in the end, UK left EU because it had to follow the LAWs it agreed or even proposed it self? Again the madness of brexiteers.
@Pogo Polo Just FYI, the UK shaped and set many of those 'EU laws'. And in fact, the UK set its own immigration policy always. Outside of the Schengen area, with its own visas and allowances. The UK govt *chose* to allow unrestricted migration for example from Romania, Bulgaria and other new entrants to the EU, where there was no EU law requiring them to do so. EU law specifically allowed for capping (and for the UK's own separate immigration and benefits policies), it was the UK governments that elected to allow in large amounts of immigrants - mostly because it was needed for the healthy functioning of the economy. Now the UK is downsizing migration from the EU and upscaling immigration from commonwealth countries (India, Pakistan, etc) - leaving large gaps in the workforce previously filled by EU workers (farming, trucking, nursing, etc).
There will be no peace in Northern Ireland until the English realise that Ulster does not belong to England. The Troubles were started in 1968 by the Unionists inc the RUC, backed the British government. These were the terrorists. How many died and how many Catholic homes fire bombed? All because English wanted to retain Ulster/Six Counties. Reminds me of an early Putin movie.
As for Scotland, the same goes. Scotland is not a colony of England. It is a supposed equal partner in a son called voluntary union but is not allowed to leave. That sounds like the End of Empire again....with the same violent ending.
5 eyes, NATO and European security, UN security council ally, most recently the new AUKUS.. Think there's still a fairly strong relationship there.. Even if economic influence with EU has gone.
@@johnmckiernan2176 aerospace and marine manufacturing for starters... You have an axe to grind? There's an increasingly desperate need for all democratic countries to build each other up these days, not put anyone down...
Your just grasping for straws lad, the UK especially England will always be the lapdog of the US military, most US military forces consider the British peasants to be cannon fodder
So much for a bilateral trade deal!
Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue and that America does deals with blocks, and so it has been shown. UK was in the EU block, now we're not and therefore nobody should be shocked that we're in this state.
It was never going to happen. What, the US was going to give the UK, whose economy is roughly about the size of california and arizonia combined... if that. That the were going to give the uk access to one of the largest economies in the world, was just another of the johnson myths that his usefull idiots and English exceptulists bought.
The only thing the US was interested in as far as the uk went was its health service and the people will never allow that to be compromised
@@russellr6089 why comment😂😂
@@Dextrovix-42 Why on earth should we care about Obama and his regime? Mafia style warmongers the lot of them.
Is this news to you ? We tried to tell you. Now for the DUP you lose all this .
Obama said we will go to the back of the queue and he meant it.
And with germany, and with poland, about equally likely with italy or the uk.
Another key aspect the UK neglected is that Ireland itself is in a far stronger economic position nowadays. Even after their bubble burst the country was left with a far more developed telecommunications infrastructure, meaning among other things they can provide a viable alternative as the English-speaking US connection to the EU.
There has been no special relationship, it Is just fantasy.
Sorry what?
So your a big fan of the little dictator putin
The government has really made things more difficult for its citizens and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance. it's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation,it is always the poor who take the hit.
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I’d still rather be free of the EU. I don’t care about what the US want or don’t want. As for Ireland they are welcome to it.
another ill educated lemming
You are free of the EU, for 3 years now.
I agree as an American I careless what English peasants think. The USA has the biggest guns so the kings peasants can sit back and watch in awe
point on the doll where the nasty EU touched you
@@genghisthegreat2034 im irish you eejit
I do not think anyone in Ireland thinks we have a "special relationship" with the USA. A strong relationship exists based on historical ties where the interests of both parties can be promoted and this is expressed politically, diplomatically and economically but it is not a "special relationship" of elevation to which other groups cannot aspire. It is a good relationship which works well because both parties understand exactly the nature of it.
I disagree. Ireland has three important relationships: The EU, the UK and the USA. Of the UK and EU, relations are largely based on pragmatism, give and take. Most EU citizens know hardly anything about Ireland, the UK has a complicated relationship with Ireland (we're close neighbours, but most Brits are ignorant of the country and many still think of Ireland in an imperious manner. Likewise many Irish have an instinctive hatred for Britain).
The American relationship is almost entirely based on goodwill. Large numbers of Americans are intimately familiar with Ireland, it's geography, culture, music and literature. Most Americans aspire to go on vacation to Ireland (the same cannot be said for Germans), and America is still probably the largest source of tourism to Ireland. American companies choose to locate in Ireland, not simply for tax reasons, but also because of the ethnic bonds of many in American business and politics to Ireland. Ireland isn't the only country that offers favourable treatment to American multinationals, but American multinationals choose us. For most of the 20th century, we were a poor backwater of a country, but America always had our back.
Our relationship with America is what gives us influence in the EU, especially compared to other small countries like the baltics or Benelux. It also has historically enabled us to stand up to the UK, and prevented the UK from strong arming us, as they did in prior centuries.
@@jasonquigley2633 I agree with you. I was referring solely to the Irish relationship with the USA without reference to other important relationships Ireland has. Clearly, the relationship with the EU is critical for Ireland, especially in economic terms and the relationship with Britain is unavoidable and is, for historical reasons, complicated and requires careful management.
@@97henrik041 Yes. But it was my contention that of the 3, our relationship with the USA is strongest. Hence we do have a "special relationship" with the USA. Many Irish don't like to acknowledge it (especially back during the Iraq war) but in Ireland we really like the USA. You can get hamburgers and fries in any town, any pub. We watch American TV, listen to American music. And the USA remains the destination of choice for tourism or immigration(if they can get a visa). Likewise, Americans still love Ireland, Irish culture can be found in every state and major city in the USA. No other country of our size has that kind of heft in the American imagination.
I think a lot of people in Ireland take this for granted. If you visit most any other country on Earth, be it China, Russia, France or Germany Ireland is some obscure corner of the world. They're not even sure if we speak English. But almost every American knows about us. That's why we still have a special relationship with the USA. Germany and France would throw us under the bus, despite our being part of the EU. But America, because of our long and deep ties, would not.
Every St. Patrick's day, our taoiseach goes to Washington DC. He doesn't go to London, Brussels, Paris, Berlin, Tokyo or Beijing. I think that says something.
This person in ireland disagrees with you proving you wrong.
@@fintonmainz7845 You can disagree with me all you like but you are not proving me wrong.
There has never been a special relationship.....the US does what it wants.....end of.
Brexit, oh Brexit, what have you done?
You've split a nation, and the damage has begun.
A decision made, with no thought of the cost,
Now the future seems uncertain, and the line has been crossed.
The world looks on, in disbelief and shame,
As Britain turns its back, on the European game.
Trade deals are lost, and relationships strained,
The freedom we sought, has left us in pain.
The promise of a brighter future, now seems so far away,
The reality of the situation, dawns on us each day.
The economy suffers, as businesses move away,
Jobs are lost, and prices rise, in a price we must pay.
Brexit, oh Brexit, what have you achieved?
The answer is simple, and hard to believe.
A nation divided, and a future unclear,
Brexit, oh Brexit, what did we hold so dear?
This was written by GP4 chat using one word...Brexit.!
A good example of one of the key precautions of using AI in that it will incorporate the biases of the data it is trained on. Amazing tool though.
Yeah ...I sort of guessed it wasn't
W B Yeats.
" Jobs are lost "...??? er...there's actually a shortage of labour. !
Also,inflation is identical to most
EU members !! Not a good ad for
GP 4 but typical Remainer drivel .
Scotland sides with the Republic of Ireland as well, and we will join them as the new Republic of Scotland soon as we divorce England to join the EU.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 in your deluded dreams Hamish! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Wtf0069 That’s for the people of Scotland to decide.
@@Wtf0069 not fof you to decide, little Englander
Not sure about "...the new Republic of Scotland..." idea, but it is sure and certain that Ireland will be Scotland's first booster and advocate for EU membership once it gains its independence.
Scotland with its ruling SNP party is currently an international joke. I'd keep your voice down for a while.😂
U.S influence is rapidly receding worldwide including Europe, and it can't do much useful today in Ireland even if it wanted to. Biden's administration was well known to be very pro Irish and anti British but Biden looks weak when you see how poor his relationships are with traditional American post war allies such as Saudi Arabia and the UK. That's on the USA, not because of the UK's democratic decisions. Much of the United Kingdom has been disillusioned with the USA since going to war with the USA over Iraq on the basis quite frankly of the Labour government trying to please the USA and keep best relations. Those days are OVER. It is no longer considered acceptable or politically savvy to go out on a limb for the whims of the White House. The relationship has been fundamentally weakened since then and we saw that landmark in 2013 when Cameron was defeated on the Syrian military intervention vote. The USA likes to think it doesn't need strong allies but the truth is if Cameron had won the Syria vote Obama would have gotten the USA more invested in Syria and intervened. It was genuinely that defeat according to Obama staffers that caused the USA to hesitate seeing it had weak support in London. So it won't be the UK going more than halfway in trying to restore this relationship, there will need to be a mutual meet in the middle. I am quite sure in time the understanding will improve, but it'll be when Biden is long gone.
Totally agree
It will continue long after biden is gone. America doesn't give to craps about other countries until it needs them.
Apart from tax avoidance for billionaires, and the ability for an authoritarian government to remove our rights and freedoms - Brexit isn't going very well, is it?
Nice to hear the Unicorn meme understood in conventional academic circles.
Prancing on the sunlight meadowed uphills.
Brexit.....you couldn't make it up!
3:05 I can't believe she said that 😮😮😮
Nothing surprising here.
Everybody knows who's to blame for political unrest in NI.
"Everybody knows who's to blame for political unrest in NI"?
BloJo, Gove, Lord Frost, Kate Hoey, Jeffrey Donaldson, the DUP, the TUV, and Ben Habib would be the headliners....
@@gloin10 Like I said: everybody knows.
what good is a totally cut-off and no-influence Britain to the US?
UK isn’t special. LOL
America isn't either.
@@Troub1e its more powerful than Britain in every way so I’d say it is.
@@XxAzureNekoxX Lucky we are both NATO members then, they can come to our aid which is sweet of them!
@@Troub1e NATO is mostly America but sure.
@@XxAzureNekoxX They like to spend the most, that is their problem, guess that's where all that so called power comes from, but again they can't use it against its allies.
Obama and Biden both said after the Brexit vote that we could kiss the ‘special relationship’ was done; Well that is until they need back up in their next war!
Like the school bully who looks to a little twerp to back him up?
thats problem with USA.. it all depends who is in power at the time. little consistency. You get the wrong president, then you can see a dramatic shift in policy.
Yeah they need our HUGE military strength don't they🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@@joecater894 Yes if Trump had have been still in power there would have been NO support for the Ukraine. Trump would have made it easy for Putin, maybe a Trump Tower in Moscow as re-compence??
The UK only ever really provided political backup; 95% of the troops in Iraq (2003) were US troops with the other 5% consisting of troops from the rest of the 31 countries in the coalition (Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Uzbekistan).
Sure the US will have appreciated the specialist troops (SAS etc...), but in terms of man power on the ground, the UK contribution was a very small percentage
The English have never come to terms with the atrocities they carried out in Ireland which led to the famine and rebellion. They think the Irish forced to immigrate to America just forgot about it all , they didn’t.
The indigenous natives of America are so thankful for all the Irish who infested their lands and participated in their massacres and forced internments!
@@B-A-L That is a good point!
I think this is all nonsense and I'm the direct descendant of Irish who left county Leitrim in the 1840's and emigrated to Australia. I came to live in the UK in the early 90's. Like historic slavery, this all happened many generations ago its time for people to move on.
@@shadowbanned636 I've lived in the UK for thirty years with an Irish name and not once have I experienced or witnessed 'cultural prejudice' against anyone Irish.
@@shadowbanned636 Oh don't be silly. Anglo/Scottish prejudice against people with some Irish background is meaningless. Against sectarians in Northern Ireland yes. The English despise religious conviction and by extension sectarians of both cloth.
It seems to be Irish people who define themselves by racial purity and by blood. I don't know any English person who does. You are English by having grown up with English children's TV and that's the only measure
Ti's a pity what the uk did
So everyone is taking notice of some old geezer who half the time has no idea where he is or what he's doing.
I saw him on TV tonight. He knew exactly where he was and what he was doing.
Who - Charles?
Sorry to dissapoint its been happening before Biden came into office. but glad that president who doesn't know where he is has left office
Let's face it, the US-EU relationship is much more valuable and volatile, than its relationship with the UK. The UK must accept and take whatever deal they get with the US....The UK does have and will have an even closer relationship with the US, but make no mistake, the US is the Senior member in this relationship and the UK must toe the line with whatever the US says....
Brexit was not only a huge joke for the UK, but a nice win for the US from prying the UK away from the EU.
Either way, the UK in the EU where the US had undue influence within that organization, or outside the EU where the UK is fast becoming nothing more than a US vassal with a nicely integrated Navy and military that still surprisingly punches above its weight....You might as well start flying the stars and stripes over Westminster...lol...
Belfast is in Ireland,
It's in Britain.united Kingdom. Dublin is also British. One day the historical borders will be restored
@@frakismaximus3052 emm its in Ireland and the EU,
@@frakismaximus3052 🤣🤣 funny. Keep dreaming.
@@frakismaximus3052 Gobshitte
@@frakismaximus3052 Vladimir, is that you ?
Ultimately, sure.. the eu is a potentially more productive relationship in terms of GDP as its larger.. HOWEVER, it is not one country and it is not always as pro US as UK has been for a long time.. meaning... the eu are less likely than the UK to follow or back America under as many circumstances as the UK. The UK as a perm member of security council.. a nuclear power.. a major nato member and a top tier intel and military partner.. thats a bad apple cart to upset in the long term.. Reagan understood it..
Just so long as you know who is in the driving seat in the relationship. Tbf the UK has pretty much shown it does know since Suez. Just don't get too carried away in your little Brexit psychodrama and forget it.
@Tess Gess simply not the case.. UK is still a top tier country with a GDP of around 3 trillion USD (roughly same as whole of India for example). There may be some stormy waters.. but the UK is still a global power.. and it has a lot of very influential and powerful connections. Its also vital ally in the pacific region and has recently joined pacific partnership as a pretty big hitter in that arrangement. Still has a lot of soft power.
Realpolitik.....what other option does the UK have other than supporting the US globally?
The UK is not going to develop a close relationship with another significant geopolitical block to replace the US and to a lessor extent the EU. Nato membership depends on a close relationship with both these blocks.
If the Republicans retake the White House the relationship may get slightly easier for a UK government, though as during the (first?)Trump presidency, the Irish-American influence on both houses of Congress across both major parties, will always mean the UK need to tread very carefully when it comes to Northern Ireland/ Ireland.
Not only because of the huge amount of Americans claiming Irish ancestry (that has been the case since at least the 1950's and certainlywas in the Reagan presidency), but now since 1990 the huge amount of US direct investment in Ireland. American corporations like Intel, Dell, Pfizer, Statestreet, Boston Scientific, Abbot, Johnson and Johnson, Apple and many more who have invested billions in major research and development, manufacturing and administrative sites to support their European businesses and will want US government policy to support their business interests. It is this US investment factor, plus tacit Irish logistical support to the US war effort after 9/11 that has changed the US relationship with Ireland since the days of Ronald Reagan.
Going on its own to spite the US is unlikely to be a successful long term solution for the UK. The days of the UK ploughing its own furrow internationally are gone, with the UK policy on the Vietnam war in the 1960's probably the last example of a genuinely divergent UK foreign policy from the US that was of genuine significance.
Can't see the UK pivoting towards the China/Russia sphere. It's the US and to a lessor extent the EU in the Western hemisphere unless the UK government is to turn its back on Western Democracy and become some sort of Chinese backed Cuba like entity on the edge of Western Europe !
@@seandoherty925 Suez has little to do with anything.. US on the other hand alone is a declining power and will need loyal allies going forwards.. the more the better.
@@joecater894 The UK was of interest to the US.....*when the UK was still a part of the EU* .Now, not so much. Third country, in decline, less and less influence. Pacific partnership bringing the UK a 0.08% GDP growth over 10 years. Big hitter indeed.
Obama told y’all
Brexit has inflicted a lot of damage on the UK
Until the wind blows in a different direction. Which it will.
Why would anyone side with the clown show in Westminster
the US will always side with Ireland day in day out, brexit or full EU member :) the yanks will always side with the Irish..... why you say???? its simple, they love us :):)
As an American I have no idea why…Ireland never interested me.
@@XxAzureNekoxX lol such insight..... and btw your country would never have gained independence or grew the way it has without the Irish so dispite your lack of interest, know that many others do.
@@12bigredd We wouldnt have gained independence without the french
@@12bigredd also after all we’ve done for ireland, you’d think they’d be grateful. Not sure where this arrogance comes from.
@@XxAzureNekoxX lol your rather drool but then thats what happens.....