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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • Breaking News - Stephan Sterns Goes Back To Crime Scene #stephansterns #madelinesoto #breakingnews #update #newinformationvideo
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 285

  • @GrayHughesInvestigates
    @GrayHughesInvestigates  Місяць тому +44

    Please hit the like button!

  • @ca.RICO.le33
    @ca.RICO.le33 Місяць тому +41

    It’s so sick how his mom has the nerve to put it all on Jen. Did she not read the same charges for HER SON that we’ve all read? She knows exactly what her son is and doesn’t care at all if he hurts innocent children 😡

  • @WNCBlueRidgeBlondie1
    @WNCBlueRidgeBlondie1 Місяць тому +49

    Good grief! He is not very smart at all! The police have this case wrapped up and tied with a bow. Thank the Lord! Great video Gray.

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 Місяць тому +17

      Yes, but NONE of this would have even been possible if that super-citizen didn't take it upon himself to call the Police Department regarding him seeing Stephon on the side of the road changing a tire. - Susan Burns

  • @ivpushh1925
    @ivpushh1925 Місяць тому +42

    He is done!! Great work by Law Enforcement thanks Gray for the breakdown

  • @SmileyRN06
    @SmileyRN06 Місяць тому +21

    Notice how the mom says it makes me sick Jenn is free and you’re not free. Instead of saying Jen should be locked up with you. Those parents are disgusting!

    • @Kay091-ew3qi
      @Kay091-ew3qi Місяць тому +3

      @SmileyRN06 the mother should be charged along with Jen. Clearly she knew what her son was up to

  • @JennicaWaggoner
    @JennicaWaggoner Місяць тому +40

    The only book they need to send him is the bible

  • @scariella1314
    @scariella1314 Місяць тому +29

    Well I’m so happy to hear that Stephen is enjoying himself with his tablet and his pile of books and relative peace and safety. He’s going to be in for a shock when he gets moved to prison and word of his crimes gets around. Sleep tight, Stephen….

  • @whiskeyboots19
    @whiskeyboots19 Місяць тому +81

    Mommy and Daddy want him to throw Jen under the bus. That's atleast what I took from that message.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  Місяць тому +20

      yeah

    • @user-cw9sr9ks8s
      @user-cw9sr9ks8s Місяць тому +1

      Maybe because Jen killed her own daughter??

    • @43ShaDey
      @43ShaDey Місяць тому +13

      Yea Jen would have been arrested already. Ppl are thinking with their emotions (and their smooth brains) instead of using reason. We all want her thrown under the bus, but the crimes just ain't there. Maybe they'll finally change the laws to allow parents like her prosecuted.... there's thousands of Jens out there and they never get in trouble for being absentee, negligent parents. Almost every time a child is abused it's by a family member or friend....why don't the parents know? Why does it keep happening every day to some poor kid?

    • @LuciaBeans
      @LuciaBeans Місяць тому

      Same. If you read the emails, you can clearly see how this guy got to be a man child narcissist sociopath, from the way he is catered to, and his mother has never once held him accountable for any of his transgressions. She has thrown everyone under the buss for him his whole life. She even blanes Jen's family for doing this to her poor baby son....while they suffer the loss of their family member at the hands of this monster.

    • @ggloveshercats
      @ggloveshercats Місяць тому +13

      I couldn't tell if it was from previous bad mouthing of Jen or if it was something based on what he told them after he was arrested for the crime. The dirtbag will never take accountability. His parents are certainly in MAJOR denial stage.

  • @simonesays7222
    @simonesays7222 Місяць тому +29

    Wow.. I think you're right. Jen mentioned the black shorts because she knew it was "gym day" like every monday. SS didn't know that, because it was always Jen who took Maddie to school. Except for that monday.
    So he tried to change the jeans (that he put on her dead body) for the black shorts. If I remember correctly black shorts were on the inventory list of the car (SS's ). So maybe he planned to change them but it was too difficult and/or too risky, so didn't do it and that why the shorts were in his car?

    • @simonesays7222
      @simonesays7222 Місяць тому

      @@BettyBlack99 Agree, way too risky to even try, but knowing what a total idiot SS is, besides being a psycho he might have had the plan to do so... but obviously didn't do it in the end, since Maddie was found with jeans on.
      I cannot explain why there was no hit on his car, besides that sometimes the dogs "get it wrong". Yet, Maddie was in the front seat too for at an hour or so. You would think there was enough of a scent there for the dogs to pick up.
      About the shorts, I can look it up. Could have been his own pair of course.

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 Місяць тому +3

      No, she wasn't wearing black shorts. She was wearing jeans . . . - Susan Burns

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 Місяць тому +3

      @@BettyBlack99 Oh wow!!!! Now THAT'S an interesting theory! Very possible .. . - Susan Burns

    • @kelliintexas3575
      @kelliintexas3575 Місяць тому +3

      Well, a body poops & urinates after death. He may have figured that out and decided not to...

    • @chelseastacy6782
      @chelseastacy6782 Місяць тому

      Hes a sick individual he could have went back for necrophilia. Wouldnt surprise me AT ALL!

  • @LoveFlowers1
    @LoveFlowers1 Місяць тому +37

    Right, he really thinks he will be going home one day.. ahh not. Unless he escapes from Jail. what an idiot!

    • @angeladesilva7913
      @angeladesilva7913 Місяць тому +7

      He so dumb he didn’t even try to hide her body that well plus he’s an idiot for throwing her backpack and laptop in the dumpster where they live instead of somewhere else. Obviously he wasn’t thinking clearly and didn’t have a plan. It may have been accidental not sure.

  • @michEjo-j4l
    @michEjo-j4l Місяць тому +31

    They all know that none of this is confidential. If Sterns mom did know that he was doing this, even w/consent, she should be charged

    • @mollyh8410
      @mollyh8410 Місяць тому +1

      She's not under hippa restrictions. She's not his health care provider nor his lawyer, so that wouldn't apply.

  • @ScabibbleWilly
    @ScabibbleWilly Місяць тому +27

    So odd he kept going to the same dumpster. What an idiot.

  • @keepitsimple4629
    @keepitsimple4629 Місяць тому +21

    Sterns, the idiot, unknowingly recorded all his comings and goings for LE. His parents still enable him by sending him books and money to the jail, denying their little boy could do those things. They may have something there about Jenn, for we know what a horrible mother she was. Without her complicity, it all wouldn't have happened to Maddie.

  • @shortie.2380
    @shortie.2380 Місяць тому +5

    If his mom knew what Jen AND HER SON were doing WHY didn’t SHE report him?!?

  • @kiwimema4300
    @kiwimema4300 Місяць тому +16

    He’s actually talking to his parents about “when this is all over” and he’s back home, to play with the toys that are left!

  • @GrayHughesInvestigates
    @GrayHughesInvestigates  Місяць тому +32

    This Video Is Members only until 9 AM... please share the video

  • @Teas.Louise
    @Teas.Louise Місяць тому +33

    I got it.
    He didn't go back for his 'clicker', he went back to get a change of clothes, or at least a diff shirt. Bet he dumped his old shirt in the dumpster, too. It's possible she 'leaked' fluids on his clothes or he knew she would when he picked her up to move to the trunk.
    The other trips - he has had time to think and calm down a bit so he probably got cleaning supplies, spray, paper towels, etc. And he probably went back to the body site to wipe her clean and double check for anything he might have dropped with dna on it- soda cans or whatever. All the cleaning materials would have gone into the dumpster.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  Місяць тому +22

      right the clicker was never why he went home. but yeah, maybe he changed shirts.

    • @deeannray5093
      @deeannray5093 Місяць тому +7

      Yeah, that's a good theory too. - Susan Burns

    • @kelliintexas3575
      @kelliintexas3575 Місяць тому +6

      Yep he was wearing a different shirt on video when they called cops.

    • @mariavasquez9504
      @mariavasquez9504 Місяць тому

      Didn't it say jens car was following he wasn't alone

  • @Jess-lh7ww
    @Jess-lh7ww Місяць тому +30

    Hi Gray! ❤ I got gifted a membership yesterday and didn’t realize it. Besides saying hello I’m usually pretty quiet in chat. Ty to whomever gifted the membership! ❤

    • @michelleherbert3287
      @michelleherbert3287 Місяць тому +10

      HI Jess ❤❤ glad your happy with your membership, I gifted you that yesterday, just enjoy being a Freak. I love Gray and the Freaks

    • @Jess-lh7ww
      @Jess-lh7ww Місяць тому +5

      Omg thank you so much!!!! ❤️ I’m so happy you responded so I can thank you personally!

    • @whiskeyboots19
      @whiskeyboots19 Місяць тому

    • @michelleherbert3287
      @michelleherbert3287 Місяць тому +4

      ​@Jess-lh7ww Your welcome Jess 🎉

    • @angeladesilva7913
      @angeladesilva7913 Місяць тому

      @@michelleherbert3287I need a membership too!

  • @oneloverevolutionary
    @oneloverevolutionary Місяць тому +33

    Accolades to the police dept on this case, they really have shown their professionalism and should be used an example to educate other police investigators👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @paisleydreamzz
      @paisleydreamzz Місяць тому +5

      @@oneloverevolutionary can you imagine how freaked out he was when they told Jen and so he heard as well that Maddie got out of the car and was walking around the parking lot for 10 minutes or whatever? He had to know he was busted right then but still trying to run a game, hoping they identify the wrong vehicle. I’m sure Grady would have a good name for somebody as dumb as him :))

    • @oneloverevolutionary
      @oneloverevolutionary Місяць тому +2

      @@paisleydreamzz I didn't even know that!!! I don't think he has a conscience and is delusional, just by hearing his emails to his parents!!!

    • @melodywilson364
      @melodywilson364 Місяць тому +5

      Not too challenging of a case with a perp like Sterns.

    • @oneloverevolutionary
      @oneloverevolutionary Місяць тому +1

      @@melodywilson364 yes but most police depts drop the ball no matter how cut and dry...believe me this is a first for me to give any recognition to police depts...especially in Casey Anthony state...we all know that even if we all know who did they can screw it up or it gets boight off🤷‍♀️

    • @oneloverevolutionary
      @oneloverevolutionary Місяць тому

      *bought

  • @goodiefx761
    @goodiefx761 Місяць тому +5

    There's only three logical reasons for him to return to the crime scene. 1) He remembered he left something incriminating against himself there that he wanted to get rid of. 2) He wanted to plant evidence there to incriminate someone else, namely JS. 3) In addition to all the other horrible things SS is, he's also a necro.file.

  • @VipesVonHarlot
    @VipesVonHarlot Місяць тому +15

    These days there are cameras on almost every street corner in most cities. That's not even including security cameras owned by businesses and homeowners. People who think they can commit heinous crimes and not get caught are so ignorant.

  • @paperchaser29
    @paperchaser29 Місяць тому +69

    No wonder he won’t show his face in court. What a poor excuse for a human being

    • @Weebay_213
      @Weebay_213 Місяць тому +11

      I'm from Europe and everyone knows American prisons/judiciary don't play...how come they don't make him show kicking and screaming, they do this in Europe, no choice

    • @apeyoutube7485
      @apeyoutube7485 Місяць тому +5

      @@Weebay_213in American court (and most courts internationally) you have the option to waive appearance at hearings and let your counsel go in your place. You’re not needed at those hearings and the people who go are usually either uninformed or they want the fame of being seen for all of 8 minutes.

    • @sandyshirley5079
      @sandyshirley5079 Місяць тому +5

      @@Weebay_213 My understanding was that prosecution wanted Sterns to remain confined. He was too big a risk if he left solitary confinement. My opinion is also that someone might take this man out, or that he’d do something to make law enforcement shoot in to stop him assaulting someone in order to run. I’m fine with his absence from court. He’s so manipulative he’d do something to stop or delay a trial. Then try to litigate against someone else!

    • @chilltarts
      @chilltarts Місяць тому +6

      ​@Weebay_213 oh he will have to show his face for the actual proceedings. The appearances he is currently waiving are merely administrative stuff. Moving him in and out of solitary and keeping him safe from the numerous dangerous and violent criminals in jail who would love to make their reputation off of hurting him, would be quite the task. Our jail staff is already overworked and underfunded. But when it's time for his plea or trial, we will see him then, whether he wants us to or not.

    • @sandyshirley5079
      @sandyshirley5079 Місяць тому

      @@chilltarts Right.

  • @annettes965
    @annettes965 Місяць тому +22

    The idiot couldn't wait to get rid of her belongings, you'd of thought he'd at least try a few miles away but no....
    I have absolutely no respect for his parents providing his " books" and talking about raising " dogs" ...personality if I were them he'd read his last book and gl getting emails from me, I don't support them for a moment! 🤐

  • @Jaybro9908
    @Jaybro9908 Місяць тому +12

    You don’t want to know what I think he did at the crime scene the second time ….. that poor little girl.

    • @ursuladavid999
      @ursuladavid999 Місяць тому +2

      Anything is possible with him…

    • @ConsterL
      @ConsterL Місяць тому +1

      My thoughts exactly

  • @ScabibbleWilly
    @ScabibbleWilly Місяць тому +16

    Great new information, thank Gray, just waking up to this. ❤❤

  • @lisavalenzuela6911
    @lisavalenzuela6911 Місяць тому +15

    I don’t think he was worried about what she was wearing. He didn’t think they would find her body.

    • @deborahpoole9710
      @deborahpoole9710 Місяць тому +5

      Yes! That flat tire caused him to have to dispose of Maddie’s body sooner and closer; otherwise he probably thought he’d take her to a swamp or body of water.

  • @whiskeyboots19
    @whiskeyboots19 Місяць тому +41

    He is TOAST.

  • @mirgrant
    @mirgrant Місяць тому +5

    Ignorance is NO defense for Jen! The atrocities that happened for THAT many years is incomprehensible! Any true blood parent should understand the signs of trauma and know that their kids should talk to them about sexual misconduct, even if they’re two years old shame on her she needs to go to jail for the rest of her life

  • @anned.4250
    @anned.4250 Місяць тому +17

    He went back to the complex because maddie's croc fell off, i believe.

    • @Jaybro9908
      @Jaybro9908 Місяць тому +5

      Yeah but they found that in the apartment.

    • @deannalassiter2088
      @deannalassiter2088 Місяць тому

      ​@@Jaybro9908 I heard they found her backpack with laptop and 1 white Croc.

  • @ecaryn.
    @ecaryn. Місяць тому +6

    I think he went back to relocate her body. Where he dumped her was a horrible spot for concealment; he panicked when he got the flat tire, threw her in haste in the bamboo and got out of there on the first trip. He returned in the middle of the night to attempt to get rid of her body but ended up being too cowardly/weak/squeamish/whatever to get the task done and limped back home to Jen. (Who, yes, I believe, knew.) I imagine the second trip is when he settled for throwing dead grass over her to hide her further

  • @FischerBlue-tc8zt
    @FischerBlue-tc8zt Місяць тому +9

    Thanks for breaking it down for us, as you always do. Appreciate your preciseness.

  • @bigbird4203
    @bigbird4203 Місяць тому +17

    Thank you Gray 🩶

  • @marygoff3332
    @marygoff3332 Місяць тому +7

    Due to flat tire, perhaps he originally dumped Maddie's body not too far from the street or not in an ideal hidden location. Maybe he went back to move her to a better spot in that general field area? (Same general area as earlier, just hidden better perhaps.)

  • @janelbuckley8332
    @janelbuckley8332 Місяць тому +6

    There were lots of cleaning products ifound n his car. He was probably cleaning the car and dumping the used materials.

  • @Thecreativelotuslab
    @Thecreativelotuslab Місяць тому +2

    Your timeline allows us to see the FACTS as more information is revealed on this case. I find the timeline you did on this case facinating.

  • @LoveFlowers1
    @LoveFlowers1 Місяць тому +32

    So while he returned back to Jennifer home with Maddie in the car back trunk. Makes me 🤢

  • @lucygresham3012
    @lucygresham3012 Місяць тому +2

    They should show his parents all the phone photo evidence....whether Jen was negligent or not....he abused that little girl for years...he is going nowhere...they have him bang to rights ...great work Gray as ever for making it make sense xx

  • @Grammy9181
    @Grammy9181 Місяць тому +6

    Gray, thank you for the new information!

  • @jessicavia9208
    @jessicavia9208 Місяць тому +5

    Thank you for all that you do. I always get excited to see you have a new video. That means new info is out on someone.

  • @paulettelehnert8222
    @paulettelehnert8222 Місяць тому +10

    Thank you Gray!

  • @bigbird4203
    @bigbird4203 Місяць тому +14

    What was he throwing in the trash?? Tire,trash bag with backpack laptop and croc.????

  • @lindahowell1787
    @lindahowell1787 Місяць тому +4

    Seems as though his parents have always been enabling him. They probably were told some stories on his unusual behavior. Maybe even by his sister.? But they dont seem to actually believe or they are in denial. Madeline will not ever have to suffer at anyones hands again. This case makes me so angry at this POS SS. No telling what he went back that night for. I am glad he was so stupid, this helped law enforcement out and hopefully justice will be handed down. Thanks Gray. Great information!

  • @cindykeenon2744
    @cindykeenon2744 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the factual information you present

  • @p477i
    @p477i Місяць тому

    Thanks for the update! Impresed with LE rapid approach ❤

  • @paulajones114
    @paulajones114 Місяць тому +6

    It's about dang Time we get New Info!!

  • @rebekahedwards5318
    @rebekahedwards5318 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Gray ! We all appreciate the updates!!!

  • @ammiedoering4205
    @ammiedoering4205 28 днів тому

    Your information is always exceptional.

  • @janinematis9239
    @janinematis9239 Місяць тому +4

    I’m sorry as a mother you have a “mothers intuition” she knew something fishy was going on when her bf is in the same bed sleeping with teen daughter.

    • @mmklaar6948
      @mmklaar6948 Місяць тому

      Janine, JS allowed SS to abuse Maddie from the time she was eight years old. They had just started dating when she put that monster in bed with Maddie. She’s as complicit as he is and I believe that she’s as culpable as he is. I think she helped. 🥺😢❤️‍🩹

    • @janinematis9239
      @janinematis9239 28 днів тому +1

      @@mmklaar6948 ya she had to of known! Is she in prison yet?

  • @pamelastephens922
    @pamelastephens922 Місяць тому +4

    Hey Gray, you do such wonderful work with the maps. So good for people like me outside the USA.
    In regards to Stephen going back to the body and our thoughts as to why; because he has videos etc on his phone, I think he went back to mess with the body. Necrophilia 😶

  • @jeanfish7
    @jeanfish7 Місяць тому +10

    I wonder if he was trying to frame Jennifer

    • @sandyshirley5079
      @sandyshirley5079 Місяць тому +1

      Jean, of course he was. It’s the only thing he can do to try to save himself. He planned that from the moment he decided to kill Maddie, in my opinion.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome Місяць тому

      Stephen is not very bright. Remember his original story is abduction. If it's trash day he completely forgot about cctv cans was just hoping the landfill would get rid of evidence. Other moron criminals have used dumpsters to get rid of evidence with cctv cameras or witnesses. Didn't watch enough CSI crime shows. I feel terrible for Maddie a sweet good girl who became a victim to a selfish loser predator on rve of her teenage years. His behaviors are useful to plot his state of mind and how these monsters think.

  • @maziet9734
    @maziet9734 Місяць тому +4

    He went out there again after he talked to her, then I think he retrieves something from the dumpster that they both noticed he forgot about, and brings it back to where he left Maddie. Both are corroberating at this point. Thanks Gray.

  • @QueenLOVE79
    @QueenLOVE79 Місяць тому +6

    I think he returned to make sure Maddie’s body was still there and/or hasn’t been discovered yet. He was probably spiraling at that point.

    • @ConsterL
      @ConsterL Місяць тому +3

      I wonder if that is all he did? He’s one sick mofo…..

    • @QueenLOVE79
      @QueenLOVE79 2 дні тому +1

      @@ConsterL You never know and with the way he’s been ducking even going to court, he will never say it. We won’t be getting a “Chris Watts type confession” I’m afraid.

  • @whiskeyboots19
    @whiskeyboots19 Місяць тому +11

    I bet LE has more video too. IMO.

  • @janloraine
    @janloraine Місяць тому +6

    Thanks Gray! ❤

  • @TJ-nh1fc
    @TJ-nh1fc Місяць тому +8

    More of these sites are going membership only. It leaves me out. I am not able to pay for all these memberships.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
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      you aren't left out. it was memember only from midnight to 9am now it's public

    • @nikkirogers5991
      @nikkirogers5991 Місяць тому +6

      @@GrayHughesInvestigates That is very reasonable. Thank you.

    • @kelliintexas3575
      @kelliintexas3575 Місяць тому

      Gray going for these late night addicts jonesing' 😅

  • @nanaanna7956
    @nanaanna7956 Місяць тому +7

    Love the timeline maps! Thanks Gray for all your hard work to bring us the facts! Necrophilia maybe 🤷

  • @vee483
    @vee483 Місяць тому +2

    Awesome clear and detailed time line presentation 👍 👏

  • @jtalias
    @jtalias Місяць тому +3

    I don’t think he got a flat tire while dumping her body. I think he had to dump her because he got a flat tire. There were at least 3 bodies of water near that location, one named alligator lake and one at the end of the street he was on. Maybe he went back to move her to water where she’d be less likely to be found, but was unsuccessful.

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    Thank you again 👍

  • @sandyshirley5079
    @sandyshirley5079 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this, Gray. Excellent information!

  • @justinefleming7756
    @justinefleming7756 Місяць тому

    Wow,that makes total sense,Gray..uk

  • @debjordan6810
    @debjordan6810 Місяць тому +1

    Appreciate all your work and updates on this case

  • @katielucas4594
    @katielucas4594 Місяць тому +5

    👏 nice work as always Gray.

  • @thomasadrian9854
    @thomasadrian9854 Місяць тому +4

    I wonder what the hell Stephan was doing out there in the pitch black darkness of night??

  • @miap.s.795
    @miap.s.795 Місяць тому +2

    His mom isn’t wrong though, Jen is just as much apart of this as him. She gave her daughter to him, she very much knew, too obvious.

  • @maziet9734
    @maziet9734 Місяць тому +5

    He went back to the house talked with Jen, corroberated their story. Then, maybe he got something out of the dumpster that he forgot about, and brought it back to where he left Maddie.

  • @jennysurfer6516
    @jennysurfer6516 Місяць тому +4

    Great work as always Gray.

  • @lorabell3553
    @lorabell3553 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Gray! Excellent as usual. ❤😊

  • @AstroTrain100
    @AstroTrain100 Місяць тому +5

    Maybe he intended on moving her body again to some where more remote like he intended the first time before he got s flat tire? BTW I wonder if Jen Soto knew he took her car early in the morning maybe while she was sleeping?

  • @kylie2648
    @kylie2648 Місяць тому +5

    Awesome content Gray. For me this is a great way to understand the timelines that are new.
    Thank you

  • @mirgrant
    @mirgrant Місяць тому +2

    Even with all this undeniable evidence ………..😮his parents will eternally coddle him and spoil him in jail….

  • @chelseastacy6782
    @chelseastacy6782 Місяць тому +1

    He was too scared to dump the body. They kept it in the house is why they met at Jens moms office. They disposed of it that night. Remember no one had to hide it from Jenn...

  • @pattyward710
    @pattyward710 Місяць тому +6

    thanks grey, interesting

  • @leyley1970
    @leyley1970 Місяць тому

    I wonder If they retrieved all of the items in the dumpster.. Thank you Grey . you do such an amazing job with this timeline.. He has hope that he will get out of this.. on those Emails he sent his parents.. Why in the world would they allow him to use a tablet to send email.. makes no sense.. His mother was blaming Jen.. I think she knew but he was the one with all that crap on his phone what he did to her and killed her. when Jenn asked to see it she DENIED that that was maddie and Stephan.. so sick..

  • @wholistichealingwithadadun3452
    @wholistichealingwithadadun3452 Місяць тому +3

    Great information!

  • @kmtx78
    @kmtx78 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks Gray!

  • @lorabell3553
    @lorabell3553 Місяць тому +6

    I think parents are just looking for someone to blame for their loser sons actions. Jmo

    • @nikkirogers5991
      @nikkirogers5991 Місяць тому +1

      Agree! To keep up their denial and pattern of pretending he isn't the problem.

  • @SaltNCheyenne
    @SaltNCheyenne Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @maddieadams75
    @maddieadams75 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Gray for sharing this.

  • @usakiwi1986
    @usakiwi1986 Місяць тому

    OMG to hearinf and seeing the time line and where his car was

  • @Jessica_Garcia_777
    @Jessica_Garcia_777 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you Gray

  • @juliedavis9456
    @juliedavis9456 Місяць тому +3

    Surely the cops searched the dumpster and found everything he threw in it! I wonder what all he threw away? So many trips must have been a lot of stuff...

    • @marissavallejo2987
      @marissavallejo2987 Місяць тому +5

      Right? Not to mention his possibly taking her car at 3 am the following morning. So all this running around and Jenn doesn’t think any of it is weird or suspicious? Even though it’s all happening at the same time her daughter is missing? I don’t get it.

  • @ambermaiden7418
    @ambermaiden7418 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Gray ! Great video !!

  • @denisemarle4141
    @denisemarle4141 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Gray, these short, but informative videos are great. I'm retired but get phone calls, friends drop in etc... even though I try to watch the shows, having to stop and start several times, the info can become disjointed. I watched the live on this and the conversations were so every day, like nothing out of the ordinary was happening, I could hardly believe it! Sterns hasn't been smart and agree, he's going home in an urn... I'm just waiting to see what he was dumping, seems like he couldn't decide what to dump... also waiting to see if Jenn joins him at his new address.
    As for his second trip to the crime scene, I think you're right, he could well have changed the long pants for the "black shorts"...
    Thanks again, from a cold Sydney... 🦘

  • @brennag.7042
    @brennag.7042 Місяць тому +3

    I'm sorry, I think Jen was neglectful yes but I don't think she had a part in or knew about her daughters murder. I think that SS parents just don't want to admit their son is a monster. Ofc he's over there making excuses to them.

  • @slapstick-yr5kc
    @slapstick-yr5kc Місяць тому +2

    Question. Jennifer told the police that she had not seen Madeline the morning that Stephan supposedly took her to school. How would she know that Maddie was wearing black shorts?

    • @urmyfuture1945
      @urmyfuture1945 Місяць тому +2

      It was a PE (gym) day at school I think.

  • @kerristewart3481
    @kerristewart3481 Місяць тому +1

    Appreciate this info.

  • @usakiwi1986
    @usakiwi1986 Місяць тому +1

    When he went back to the dumpster it would have been when Jennifer had left to "pick up" Madeline from school.

  • @carachantler2325
    @carachantler2325 Місяць тому +15

    Mums has acknowledged that the horrendous pre teen, years long abuse, R-word-ing in every way possible. Being deliberately recorded by himself, on camera with his male body parts violating this little girl, then murdering+ disposing of, lying about what he’s done. BUT !!!! Mums focusing on its not ALL her 🤢🤬😤 freaky sons fault. She has a point. But WHAT THE ACTUAL FFFFFF 🤯

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome Місяць тому

      Jeffrey Dahmer's father still loved his son after the crimes where revealed he even felt responsible for how warped Jeffrey became as adult. He visited Jeff in prison kept in touch by phone. It's a parents love for their kid.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome Місяць тому

      Dysfunctional family dynamics in the case of both. Stephan also had head injury as child. Brain damage could explain a lot about his immaturity and overprotective mother.

    • @carachantler2325
      @carachantler2325 Місяць тому

      @@WindTurbineSyndrome I didn’t explain my point well. I understand your reference. I’ve 3 kids age21, 18 + 10 myself. It’s not the still loving her son+ being in contact etc. it’s the minimising, blame shifting. In THIS PARTICULAR type of crime+ slam dunk graphic evidence. I think there’s likely a horrible back story. Anyways 😞

  • @Gigi_T_1045
    @Gigi_T_1045 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the updates!!

  • @__-fl3yt
    @__-fl3yt Місяць тому +1

    He was looking for a opportunity to move the body, because he had to left her there in a hurry because of the flat tire

  • @SiriusBlack78
    @SiriusBlack78 Місяць тому +6

    Last nights live was really good Gray. Your humor was on point. Thank you for putting this video out because it is so informative.

  • @rockstarofredondo
    @rockstarofredondo 20 днів тому

    He returned to the dump site to try to move her to a “better” hiding place. For some reason he couldn’t.

  • @paulajones114
    @paulajones114 Місяць тому +2

    Yeah I've already heard All that.

  • @Beastmode-zx9gm
    @Beastmode-zx9gm Місяць тому +1

    I havent been following the case cause life.. but when did LE say they see him moving her from the front to the trunk at the hotel? 😢

  • @rebeccabruce3598
    @rebeccabruce3598 Місяць тому +1

    Great content, thanks! ❤

  • @rebeccaheldt391
    @rebeccaheldt391 Місяць тому

    Hello from Indiana 👋

  • @TheTroothseekr
    @TheTroothseekr Місяць тому +2

    He is clearly a very good con artist and has his family completely fooled.

  • @nikkib78
    @nikkib78 Місяць тому +1

    Ty for another great video

  • @hayleymariemills
    @hayleymariemills Місяць тому +1

    I've always thought she knew more HOWEVER we have to keep in mind that he's probably lying and making excuses to his mom about Jen and her past boyfriends to pass off some of the blame!