Whether I agree or disagree with Acho, the one thing I love about him is that he tries to make every point measurable/quantifiable. Without that, everyone is just sharing feelings. So I appreciate that.
@@michaelmatthews6487 it is called respect. KD with his female tendencies didn't even have the courage to congratulate Giannis for winning his well deserved first championship like Steph Curry did. KD is a disgrace. He can only win with super teams. If he was that great he should have defeated the Bucks. I don't want to hear that he was by himself. He had plenty of help. The last time I checked he had Blake Griffin who is a perennial all star, Joe Harris who is a former 3 point champion, Jeff Green great player etc
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran how was he better? He was better in game 5 not the entire series. You must have watched a completely different series from me. KD is yet to prove that he can lead a team to victory without perennial all stars and future hall of famers. When LeBron loses we all go after him when KD loses oh he is better than Giannis. Has KD ever shown LeBron the same respect that Giannis showed him? KD is more skilled than Giannis but if you want to build a team and compete for championship without stacking I will go with Giannis any day.
@@pirota819 You are completely right I was saying Ginnis said KD is the best right now, but I completely agree with you and I Notice KD didn't even complement Ginnis KD is not a likeable person and I don't know but can read between the lines have a great day. .
Im not a bucks fan but real recognizes real Giannis Antetokounmpo is the 1st player in NBA Finals history to average 30+ points, 10+ rebounds and 5+ assists on at least 60% shooting. 35.2 PPG 13.2 RPG 5.0 APG 61.8 FG%
Everyone knows what Giannis was talking about, he won it on HIS team. He didn’t give up on the franchise and they also paid up for upgrades. KD would of won a ring in OKC eventually but gave up and ran to his conquerors plain and simple. They didn’t need him he was overkill which is fine but it’s not the same as what Giannis just did. Doesn’t even matter who is better Giannis took the harder road way harder.
@@sportstrooth4489 they were 1 game away from the finals don't act like kd didn't have help or wasn't on a championship contender. But giannis is lucky to be In a franchise that did what ever it took to upgrade and competent enough to do it.
@@Dmngz236 so you don't think he left because the organization betrayed him? They let Westbrook do what he wanted, they traded every player kd wanted, and they were cheap. Listen to the players not the media
The Greek Freak played on a bum knee, and overcame his demons at the free throw line when it mattered. All the should have could have would have doesn't matter. Giannis produced when he had to. LeBron, KD, Harden, CP3 are all on vacation right now. Just give the man his props. He destroyed everyone.
Giannis put all other NBA stars to shame this year. 17-19 in freethrows? In a clinch Game? Giannis? That is, inspiring. Joining other stars to go over the humo, not impressive. Good take man
@@MrSulfor any injury concerning the knee can mess up many things. Worse than it looked or not... your range of motion, your ability of movement and jumping, your rhythm, even psychologically the way you think and play will be affected. Even a little tweak can throw your whole body off.
@@MrSulfor Doesn't matter. His physiology and the work he's put into his strength/flexibility/recovery habits all contributed. That same amount of knee hyper-extension would have taken out MANY other players. He deserves credit for overcoming the injury regardless.
Giannis is a product of his situation. You can't tell me that if Kyrie, Harden would have been healthy they wouldnt have smacked them the whole series. If KD was a size 16 and not 18 he would have lost. If Joe Harris hit a single 3 he would have lost. Giannis' ride to the playoffs is stained because every team had injuries that crippled them. Nets: Harden, Kyrie, Uncle Jeff Lakers: Bron and AD 76ers: Dwight Howard Clippers: Kawhi, Boogie, Serge Ibaka Celtics: Brown, Kemba Knicks: D Rose Hawks: Ice Trae. All these are just the superstars, not the supporting cast, Giannis won and he is great, but lets not act like he didnt benefit from all this.
@@flyazzplayboy man, injuries always play a part. Look at the Warriors titles: Dame, Kyrie, Love, Cousins, Kawhi, Cousins, CP3... So? Giannis deserves It, he took it
@@javigar133 Indeed but the injury concerning superstars was unlike none other. And not saying he didn't deserve it but what I mentioned is pretty obvious to me. Just my opinion, not expecting you to agree with my opinion.
Those two guys and the guys at brother from another are a joy to listen to. All the rest of tv nba analysts are total bs. Even if you don’t agree with them it’s fun to watch
that's the funniest episode of these two going against each otherr with a spite... as a Greek fan i'd like to point out that Giannis really conceded and stated that KD is a better player... that don't mean this will forever be the case, he keeps improving and staying healthy, he's JUST 26year old
I decided they were my favorites when the Clippers lost last year and Marcellus came in dressed in black and a fur coat on to give the eulogy. Hilarious.
Giannis team outperformed Kevin Durant's team? Lies, Game 7 of the nets Giannis dropped 40 and 15 and was way more efficient than KD that's why he beat KD. Everyone else on the bucks performed worse than everyone else on the nets. Kris and Jure were 14 of 49
Nets were clearly worse as a team and to say that the Bucks’ did not play good would be wrong. Brook Lopez had a great game. 4 blocks, 8 rebounds, 19 points with 64 percent from the field and 3 of 4 from deep. Middleton was not an efficient scorer but he did get 10 rebounds and he had 5 steals which is insane. Holiday as their point guard had 7 rebounds and 8 assists. Pat made the shots he took and gave them 9 efficient points. PJ had 3 steals and 2 blocks. Apart from Giannis and Brook, no one scored efficiently on a high volume. Middleton scored 22 but was inefficient, pat was 60% from the field but only scored 9 yes but you can’t only look at the points. Their rebounding was incredible. When your point guard is not named Simmons or Westbrook and you get 7 rebounds, 2 of them being offensive rebounds, that tells you something. And their defense was great. And their players played big in the clutch. Jrue’s points came when he got hot in the 4th. Brook scored some late and did have a big block on KD in overtime. Nets on the other hand were far worse. James Harden’s stat sheet looks filled but his percentages tell the whole story. He had 22 points and 10 of them were from the free-throw line. So he had 14 points in without the free-throws in 17 shots. That is horrific. Not even 30% from the field and 12 of 2 from deep, one of them being a lucky bank shot and he had 4 turnovers. Only 3 players had 1 or more steal and block. Apart from KD, Harden and Bruce Brown, they did not get any extra possessions on defense. And their defensive efforts are clear as apart from Durant the total number of block attempts were 2 combined by the whole team. Durant had 5 alone. Joe Harris choked again with 9 of 3 from 3 and we’re talking about wide open shots which weren’t off balance or anything. Blake was good with an efficient 17 and 11 but he did not play defense at all. They kept switching Giannis to him. Bruce Brown was good from the field with 7 of 9 but missed 2 deep shots which he shouldn’t have taken considering how bad of a 3pt shooter he is and missed both bis free throws. Jeff Green literally was a negative for the team with no points one rebound one assist and 3 fouls. Giannis clearly had the better team in that game and he did not play better than KD. Giannis looks so efficient but compare his matchups to KD’s. Giannis was mostly guarded by Blake who is known for being weak defensively and is a lot smaller than Giannis. KD did have a smaller man on himself too but unlike Blake, PJ is a great defender and is recognized as one of the best 1on1 defenders in the league. Giannis was able to play bully ball inside since he wasn’t getting doubled either. An easy post up game on Blake and barbeque chicken. Meanwhile KD was contested on over 85 percent of his shots and the majority of his shots did not come inside the paint but were mid-range jump-shots and 3 pointers. And while Giannis was better defensively, KD wasn’t a bad defender. He was clearly the only man defending decently on defense as he made Middleton struggle a lot which can be seen by Middleton’s averages.
@@kerke4639 you lost your mind. Blake Griffin and James harden were great! Kris and Jure were horrible. In OT kd had a guy score. The bucks didn't score until Giannis put KD on his back and got those points with one minute to go. KD was 0 for 7 in ot. That is why KD lost. Facts, kd lost because Giannis is the better player.
Marcellus "Milwaukee plays dumb basketball and fire the coach" Wiley. Giannis has 2 MVPs, DPOY, Finals MVP and ring without a superteam. Currently he's the best. KD and LeBron never won a title without a stacked team, this man did and did it against the proclaimed Point God, Kobe 2.0 and Baby Admiral lol. A week ago y'all were debating on if Booker or CP3 was the Finals MVP and how Middleton was better than Giannis. Four games and two trophies later, Wiley can't even acknowledge Antetokounmpo's greatness on both ends of the floor.
Gonna push back a bit on lbj. Lbj did make a final by himself, never had supporting cast like giannis to be honest and we tend to act like lbj came back to a superteam. Kyrie irving and Kevin love never ever made a single playoff game until they played with lbj and neither one of them have been back to a finals. AD never made it out a 1st round, plays with lbj and they win a ring. So I'm not trying to jump on the point bc I actually tend to agree. Giannis the best right now and he did win it with the team that drafted him without leaving...but I hate when kd gets mentioned with lbj...and honestly, I don't see how we don't say giannis is better than kd right now. Giannis doesn't have more anything than lbj...but he already has more mvps than kobe Shaq and Durant. Has 2mvps, finals mvp, dpoy, and a championship without another superstar on his team. Kd had westbrook...and left.. Lbj had delonte west 1st go round...just saying. Giannis gets all the credit today
@@bevelinternational7527 Never had a supporting cast like Giannis? Even if you grossly discredit Kevin Love, Lebron's 2016 and 2017 Cavs were stacked with role players. 2018 was just as stacked with role players (one of which was a HUGE reason the Suns made the Finals).
Great comment!!!!! ...and I would say that Kawhi is better than LeBron and KD as well. He also took a team who couldn't sniff a title! The only change the Raptors made was swapped best players with Spurs...and they got their only title in franchise history. I honestly believe he will do same for Clippers if he can stay healthy!
At least Giannis don’t have a superstar on his team 🤷🏽♂️. And if y’all wanna say Kyrie and harden was injured, Giannis was too. KD is just a better shooter that’s it
Giannis did what KD, LBJ, and others couldn't, win the chip with ZERO other superstars. Doesn't make him the best, but we need to put some respect on his name
@@distinctfab it wasn't a super team but the mavs were a complete team. They went through okc, spurs, Lakers which was a sweep and Miami. No one was beating them that year
The media is so extreme, man. You’re either a choker that can’t win a chip or you’re the best in the world if you win. Can we just appreciate what each do?
Giannis actually deserves to be called the best in the world because he just showed he is the most dominant and can will himself to play his absolute best when it's needed the most.
It's not about STATS. Giannis LED his TEAM to the Promised land without joining other superstars. During the playoffs, Lebron was Healthy. KD was healthy and the playing field got even.
The playing was not level Lebron and the lakers didn’t have Anthony Davis, if the Lakers had a healthy Anthony Davis they would have more than likely won the finals
Happy for the Bucks and Giannis congrats u are world champions doesn't matter if he's the best player in the world he's the best player in the teams championship series and winning the Chip
I live one block away from Giannis in River Hills Wisconsin. I have spoke to him once in awhile when he walks around the block. He's a good down to earth young man. We are extremely proud of him as well as all of the other Buck's.
Man acho could’ve easily destroyed Marcellus this take. “When’s the last time Giannis had 2 rings?” Acho could’ve easily said, “When’s the last time KD won one without atleast 2 hall of famers”
@@gatorboy21king in the conversation lol. and u talk about valid argument. he joined a stacked team after being up vs em and ppl will just blame westbrook as if kd didnt fail em also. i actually thought he was attempting to win it his way with kyrie in BK but apparently wanted to make his own super team. they prob win it next season if healthy tho but look at how he tried to win it this past season...
@@x9gio lol who tf forced his way to brooklyn? You act like kd demanded the rockets to send harden. What was brooklyn supposed to do? Turn down harden for kd "legacy"?
The more Giannis shows how great he is. The more people try to bring him down and say he is not that great. I guess people ignored Giannis abusing KD in the post during their serious and air balling the game winning shot in overtime. People will always have selective memory. smh
I guess when Goku stated that freeza was stronger than him during the time he was battling in kaioken x 50.. then in the clutch Goku goes Super Saiyan and DESTROYS freeza. That means Goku is still weaker because he made a statement before ascending? 🤔🔥⚡
one played with 2 future MVPs and lost. Joined the MVP who beat him up so he can win, too. Then left and rejoined another MVP, and another former champion, to keep on winning. The other had a chance to do the same thing but chose to sign an extension with the same team that drafted him, allowed to build around him and led them to the promised land.
For everyone stating KD is better... When has KD lead a team to the finals and won.? His 2 chips came on the team that beat him the prior year and ty Lue stated him self as the opposing coach that he had to double team the best player on that team to even have a chance at winning. That player was Curry. KD won FMVP because he was left to be KD while the best player on his team was double and sometimes triple teamed at half court.
@@chachis3867 way more. Think about It, Giannis one final, one ring. Did KD win his first finals? No. Giannis won It in the team that drafted him, KD won on the team that beat him. No all Championships rings are created equal
@@JODYJOE better in what? Lol Lastv3 years: Giannis won 2 MVPs for KDs zero, Giannis won DPoY and allnba defense for KDs zero, a ring and finals mvps for KDs zerom he scored more points and more efficiently, he gets more rebounds, he is in a different galaxy defensively... What does he do better? Not even scoring
Whenever I hear best player in the world, I'm always like what year you talking about about. At the end of the day like it or not, the player that gets the ring is the best. Simple. Skill and all that doesn't matter if you don't win it. As simple as that. Giannis is the best player in the world this year. GOAT? that's another discussion. How many rings, MVP's you got.
Thing we need to remember is, it's easy for KD to get those kind of numbers when your'e on a literal superteam. KD has yet to prove himself on a team that doesn't have a fellow superstar. Giannis did it all on a bum knee without ring chasing or superstar help once his whole career. The best racer in the "Tortoise and the Hare" was the tortoise. Not because he was faster or had more talent. It was because he persevered, wanted it more, and because he WON.
This debate is stupid. Giannis is defensive player of the year. Multiple first team all-defensive team selections. Plays with tons of passion and energy. All of the Bucks team follows his lead. KD scoring alone cannot compensate for all the things Giannis is and does on the court. KDs two rings are worthless.
Marcellus keeps bringing up career achievements and averages. That’s the past man. Is MJ the best player in the world right now? By Marcellus logic, MJ is better than KD, even today, because he has more achievements and better averages. It’s nonsense. As of today, this moment, Giannis is the best because he played the best this postseason.
@@vinnybrown1122 he was being humble. He was equally as good as KD in the totality of that series when you include his excellent defense. He averaged 32, 13, and 4 to KD’s 36, 11, and 5. And he won too, which counts for something. And then he topped it by averaging 36, 13, and 5 in the finals. Which is better than KD has done in a series, ever, per basketball reference. Giannis is the man right now
@@wilkic2 o yeah giannis the guy who literally crowned himself during that lakers game last year is so humble. Please he thinks KDs better than because kd almost single handedly beat the bucks in the second round. But y’all will play dumb
@@vinnybrown1122 you didn’t address any of the facts and stats I presented on apples to apples performance, which showed that Giannis was better this postseason. Ad hominem attacks are all you can muster and it’s honestly pretty sad to see.
Exactly Wiley! War of attrition! Acho trying to crown him best in the world prematurely. Nobody predicted this result. Congrats to Gianni's and I respect him as champion this year.
Just cause you won 3 years ago doesn't mean you are the best today. This is always Wiley's argument whether it is CP3 or KD, they did stuff in the past and for some reason that means something right now even though it doesn't.
Middleton & Holiday barely showed up that whole series, just in a couple of spurts. KD got good contribution from Jeff Green & Blake Griffin throughout as well so the narrative that he played 1 on 5 is false. If he did, then so did Giannis
@@deemoney7160 you guys love talking tough on the internet. Watch the name calling young man. Kd should’ve won at least one championship with that team. He had to join a team with even a more stronger supporting cast
Giannis is the Best Player. In THIS Playoffs. KD is the Best Player. In This Season. Bron is the better player, OVERALL between Giannis and KD. MJ is the GOAT.
@@kei2kei No he isn’t anymore. LeBron can’t defend on the level of KD and definitely not on Giannis level and their offensive impact is just as big as his.
KD is Disqualified. He had Curry avg 30pts, Klay Avg 25 pts, and dray being dray. This year KD has had Harden avg 30pts and kyrie 25 - 30 pts avg. Hes had the best help and less attention on him. Giannis had a wall built and broke through it with just Middleton/holiday. Lol
I think if you put KD on the Bucks its not guaranteed to be a win - his play style might not fit with Jrue and Middleton just saying - and Giannis might have good numbers if he was asked to do what KD had to do with no help so the numbers dont really add up - in the end Giannis had a monster game at the most crucial moment so deserves to be called the best...right now
I have such respect for Giannis. Like he said in his interview he could have turned down his max contract gone down to the Mavs and probably win a ton of rings with Luka. But nah he stuck with his team and his city and got them a ring.
KD has played at least 5 more years than Giannis so stats will always favor him. Either compare 2 players at the same pojnt in their career or find another argument
He mentioned career Averages, not the total stats. So your point is invalid. He also mentioned when KD and Giannis went head to head THIS YEAR, and KD outperformed him.
@@johndarius18 career average hmm.. KD has better averages cos he is at his peak longer than giannis (only just entering peak) so if u want to do career comparison, either do it after their career ended or at-the-point comparison.
Cell To be fair I'm pretty sure that if you'd apply a dna test on one of KD's blood samples I have the intuition that 9X/10 the results might come back Nigerian positive because I can't tell you how many times I ran into Nigerian dudes in London that look just like KD either way Acho wins😅
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Whether I agree or disagree with Acho, the one thing I love about him is that he tries to make every point measurable/quantifiable. Without that, everyone is just sharing feelings. So I appreciate that.
I feel you on this 😉😂
Exactly well said
Definitely entertaining!
Good point.
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This man said don’t call me 2x mvp until I win the championship. And he won the championship the next year. Beast.
Yeszir
..and at his last interview said "now don't call me nothing, I m already thinking how to do it again". greatness!
And he was also the Finals MVP!
Giannis: "KD is the best player in the world"
Giannis: And I took that personally
Nah, this not it
Giannis said KD is the best player right now. Do your research.
@@michaelmatthews6487 it is called respect. KD with his female tendencies didn't even have the courage to congratulate Giannis for winning his well deserved first championship like Steph Curry did. KD is a disgrace. He can only win with super teams. If he was that great he should have defeated the Bucks. I don't want to hear that he was by himself. He had plenty of help. The last time I checked he had Blake Griffin who is a perennial all star, Joe Harris who is a former 3 point champion, Jeff Green great player etc
@Rishitiran Anandeswaran how was he better? He was better in game 5 not the entire series. You must have watched a completely different series from me. KD is yet to prove that he can lead a team to victory without perennial all stars and future hall of famers. When LeBron loses we all go after him when KD loses oh he is better than Giannis. Has KD ever shown LeBron the same respect that Giannis showed him? KD is more skilled than Giannis but if you want to build a team and compete for championship without stacking I will go with Giannis any day.
@@pirota819 You are completely right I was saying Ginnis said KD is the best right now, but I completely agree with you and I Notice KD didn't even complement Ginnis KD is not a likeable person and I don't know but can read between the lines have a great day. .
Im not a bucks fan but real recognizes real
Giannis Antetokounmpo is the 1st player in NBA Finals history to average 30+ points, 10+ rebounds and 5+ assists on at least 60% shooting.
35.2 PPG
13.2 RPG
5.0 APG
61.8 FG%
Happy for his success.
From poverty to the top of the world
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Everyone knows what Giannis was talking about, he won it on HIS team. He didn’t give up on the franchise and they also paid up for upgrades. KD would of won a ring in OKC eventually but gave up and ran to his conquerors plain and simple. They didn’t need him he was overkill which is fine but it’s not the same as what Giannis just did. Doesn’t even matter who is better Giannis took the harder road way harder.
Did he give up or the franchise was cheap
I have Giannis ranked 13 over KD now
@@sportstrooth4489 they were 1 game away from the finals don't act like kd didn't have help or wasn't on a championship contender. But giannis is lucky to be In a franchise that did what ever it took to upgrade and competent enough to do it.
@@Dmngz236 so you don't think he left because the organization betrayed him? They let Westbrook do what he wanted, they traded every player kd wanted, and they were cheap. Listen to the players not the media
Stop it!! OKC definitely wasn't gone win a chip 🥴. The only thing KD did wrong was go to the team that beat him
The Greek Freak played on a bum knee, and overcame his demons at the free throw line when it mattered. All the should have could have would have doesn't matter. Giannis produced when he had to. LeBron, KD, Harden, CP3 are all on vacation right now. Just give the man his props. He destroyed everyone.
Giannis put all other NBA stars to shame this year. 17-19 in freethrows? In a clinch Game? Giannis? That is, inspiring. Joining other stars to go over the humo, not impressive. Good take man
His knee was. not as bad as it looked. MRI showed that.
@@MrSulfor any injury concerning the knee can mess up many things. Worse than it looked or not... your range of motion, your ability of movement and jumping, your rhythm, even psychologically the way you think and play will be affected. Even a little tweak can throw your whole body off.
@@MrSulfor Doesn't matter. His physiology and the work he's put into his strength/flexibility/recovery habits all contributed. That same amount of knee hyper-extension would have taken out MANY other players. He deserves credit for overcoming the injury regardless.
Giannis is a product of his situation. You can't tell me that if Kyrie, Harden would have been healthy they wouldnt have smacked them the whole series. If KD was a size 16 and not 18 he would have lost. If Joe Harris hit a single 3 he would have lost. Giannis' ride to the playoffs is stained because every team had injuries that crippled them. Nets: Harden, Kyrie, Uncle Jeff Lakers: Bron and AD 76ers: Dwight Howard Clippers: Kawhi, Boogie, Serge Ibaka Celtics: Brown, Kemba Knicks: D Rose Hawks: Ice Trae. All these are just the superstars, not the supporting cast, Giannis won and he is great, but lets not act like he didnt benefit from all this.
acho is legit the only one in the media that gave giannis genuine credit today..
Nick Wright
Emanuel acho is also a fanboy like Shannon is to lebron
Giannis never went to a team that beat him to win a ring.
100%
Yeah but injuries played a big part in him winning a championship. Would he have won with the healthy superstars in the mix? No
@@flyazzplayboy man, injuries always play a part. Look at the Warriors titles: Dame, Kyrie, Love, Cousins, Kawhi, Cousins, CP3... So? Giannis deserves It, he took it
@@javigar133 Indeed but the injury concerning superstars was unlike none other. And not saying he didn't deserve it but what I mentioned is pretty obvious to me. Just my opinion, not expecting you to agree with my opinion.
New era Tim Duncan style.
Marcellus says Suns weren't the best version of themselves when they shot like 60% and 50% from 3. How weren't they the best version of themselves.
Those two guys and the guys at brother from another are a joy to listen to. All the rest of tv nba analysts are total bs. Even if you don’t agree with them it’s fun to watch
that's the funniest episode of these two going against each otherr with a spite... as a Greek fan i'd like to point out that Giannis really conceded and stated that KD is a better player... that don't mean this will forever be the case, he keeps improving and staying healthy, he's JUST 26year old
One of the best shows with some of the best takes. Therefore they the best? … I think so
I decided they were my favorites when the Clippers lost last year and Marcellus came in dressed in black and a fur coat on to give the eulogy. Hilarious.
Yup. It's really that simple
@@riverofcustard5027 QAA.
uh no
Well researched educated arguments. Not these tired hater biases like these other shows.
FMVP Giannis Antetokounmpo-
"WE ON A MISSION"
Giannis team outperformed Kevin Durant's team? Lies, Game 7 of the nets Giannis dropped 40 and 15 and was way more efficient than KD that's why he beat KD. Everyone else on the bucks performed worse than everyone else on the nets. Kris and Jure were 14 of 49
Nets were clearly worse as a team and to say that the Bucks’ did not play good would be wrong. Brook Lopez had a great game. 4 blocks, 8 rebounds, 19 points with 64 percent from the field and 3 of 4 from deep. Middleton was not an efficient scorer but he did get 10 rebounds and he had 5 steals which is insane. Holiday as their point guard had 7 rebounds and 8 assists. Pat made the shots he took and gave them 9 efficient points. PJ had 3 steals and 2 blocks. Apart from Giannis and Brook, no one scored efficiently on a high volume. Middleton scored 22 but was inefficient, pat was 60% from the field but only scored 9 yes but you can’t only look at the points. Their rebounding was incredible. When your point guard is not named Simmons or Westbrook and you get 7 rebounds, 2 of them being offensive rebounds, that tells you something. And their defense was great. And their players played big in the clutch. Jrue’s points came when he got hot in the 4th. Brook scored some late and did have a big block on KD in overtime. Nets on the other hand were far worse. James Harden’s stat sheet looks filled but his percentages tell the whole story. He had 22 points and 10 of them were from the free-throw line. So he had 14 points in without the free-throws in 17 shots. That is horrific. Not even 30% from the field and 12 of 2 from deep, one of them being a lucky bank shot and he had 4 turnovers. Only 3 players had 1 or more steal and block. Apart from KD, Harden and Bruce Brown, they did not get any extra possessions on defense. And their defensive efforts are clear as apart from Durant the total number of block attempts were 2 combined by the whole team. Durant had 5 alone. Joe Harris choked again with 9 of 3 from 3 and we’re talking about wide open shots which weren’t off balance or anything. Blake was good with an efficient 17 and 11 but he did not play defense at all. They kept switching Giannis to him. Bruce Brown was good from the field with 7 of 9 but missed 2 deep shots which he shouldn’t have taken considering how bad of a 3pt shooter he is and missed both bis free throws. Jeff Green literally was a negative for the team with no points one rebound one assist and 3 fouls. Giannis clearly had the better team in that game and he did not play better than KD. Giannis looks so efficient but compare his matchups to KD’s. Giannis was mostly guarded by Blake who is known for being weak defensively and is a lot smaller than Giannis. KD did have a smaller man on himself too but unlike Blake, PJ is a great defender and is recognized as one of the best 1on1 defenders in the league. Giannis was able to play bully ball inside since he wasn’t getting doubled either. An easy post up game on Blake and barbeque chicken. Meanwhile KD was contested on over 85 percent of his shots and the majority of his shots did not come inside the paint but were mid-range jump-shots and 3 pointers. And while Giannis was better defensively, KD wasn’t a bad defender. He was clearly the only man defending decently on defense as he made Middleton struggle a lot which can be seen by Middleton’s averages.
@@kerke4639 you lost your mind. Blake Griffin and James harden were great! Kris and Jure were horrible. In OT kd had a guy score. The bucks didn't score until Giannis put KD on his back and got those points with one minute to go. KD was 0 for 7 in ot. That is why KD lost. Facts, kd lost because Giannis is the better player.
Marcellus "Milwaukee plays dumb basketball and fire the coach" Wiley. Giannis has 2 MVPs, DPOY, Finals MVP and ring without a superteam. Currently he's the best. KD and LeBron never won a title without a stacked team, this man did and did it against the proclaimed Point God, Kobe 2.0 and Baby Admiral lol. A week ago y'all were debating on if Booker or CP3 was the Finals MVP and how Middleton was better than Giannis. Four games and two trophies later, Wiley can't even acknowledge Antetokounmpo's greatness on both ends of the floor.
Gonna push back a bit on lbj. Lbj did make a final by himself, never had supporting cast like giannis to be honest and we tend to act like lbj came back to a superteam. Kyrie irving and Kevin love never ever made a single playoff game until they played with lbj and neither one of them have been back to a finals. AD never made it out a 1st round, plays with lbj and they win a ring.
So I'm not trying to jump on the point bc I actually tend to agree. Giannis the best right now and he did win it with the team that drafted him without leaving...but I hate when kd gets mentioned with lbj...and honestly, I don't see how we don't say giannis is better than kd right now. Giannis doesn't have more anything than lbj...but he already has more mvps than kobe Shaq and Durant. Has 2mvps, finals mvp, dpoy, and a championship without another superstar on his team. Kd had westbrook...and left..
Lbj had delonte west 1st go round...just saying.
Giannis gets all the credit today
@@bevelinternational7527 Never had a supporting cast like Giannis? Even if you grossly discredit Kevin Love, Lebron's 2016 and 2017 Cavs were stacked with role players. 2018 was just as stacked with role players (one of which was a HUGE reason the Suns made the Finals).
Great comment!!!!!
...and I would say that Kawhi is better than LeBron and KD as well. He also took a team who couldn't sniff a title! The only change the Raptors made was swapped best players with Spurs...and they got their only title in franchise history. I honestly believe he will do same for Clippers if he can stay healthy!
@@jalenad11 I meant his first stint.
Now everyone think Gianis is the GOAT for just one game without superstars in the finals 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️👎
Giannis didn't come in the league as a super star
This man came in the league n worked to be the monster he is today ...
Give credit to hard work...
If you can absolutely dominate at both ends of the floor to win a chip, you're the best player in the world. Giannis been crowned
Yow! "since 1958 when TV was black and white and so was our country"! Mic Drop!
This isn’t a lifetime achievement award, the discussion was best player right now and Wiley bringing up KDs greatest hits 🤣
At least Giannis don’t have a superstar on his team 🤷🏽♂️. And if y’all wanna say Kyrie and harden was injured, Giannis was too. KD is just a better shooter that’s it
This is the the most professional sports show on right now
...and remember, a lot of people thought Giannis might not even play in the finals after injury!!!
Giannis did what KD, LBJ, and others couldn't, win the chip with ZERO other superstars. Doesn't make him the best, but we need to put some respect on his name
10 years after Dirk nowitzki did it without a super team. Props to both of them.
@@distinctfab it wasn't a super team but the mavs were a complete team. They went through okc, spurs, Lakers which was a sweep and Miami. No one was beating them that year
And he played against zero of them too...
Curry won 2 rings with zero superstar too 🤔
The media is so extreme, man. You’re either a choker that can’t win a chip or you’re the best in the world if you win. Can we just appreciate what each do?
Man you know ppl gne be difficult especially when it comes to things that don’t involve them
What Giannis has done in these last 3 years he has a great argument for best in the world
Wait till Football season Tom will be Trash Mahomes Is Goat With 1. Paul last week was Point God KD Greatest Eva LbJ God Lukic Best ever
Giannis actually deserves to be called the best in the world because he just showed he is the most dominant and can will himself to play his absolute best when it's needed the most.
It's not about STATS.
Giannis LED his TEAM to the Promised land without joining other superstars.
During the playoffs, Lebron was Healthy. KD was healthy and the playing field got even.
The playing was not level Lebron and the lakers didn’t have Anthony Davis, if the Lakers had a healthy Anthony Davis they would have more than likely won the finals
@@georgeevansjr1072 we really think bron was healthy lol.okay.But after that scary knee injury no excuses
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Acho really is good with words "asinine" 😂😂😂 man this is why I tune in to watch Speak for Yourself because you never know what words Acho will say.
KD has had teammates that rank in the top 40 OF ALL TIME in basketball. I couldn't tell you one teammate Giannis has had.
Hes still better player then giannis
@@JODYJOE your opinion
@@JODYJOE Then why does he need to team up Hall of Famers & All time Greats? 🤔 Hmmmm
@Walnut Park idiotic statement
@@JODYJOE lol, not even close.
Hahah Giannis dont care, he's got the chip and finals mvp. That's enough validation 😁
Two Nigerians 🇳🇬🤝🏾🇳🇬
These fellas are great and they sell their debates nicely. Having said this.... Giannis closed a lot of loud mouths that were slandering
KD’s defense ain’t even close to Giannis this needs to be factored in
Happy for the Bucks and Giannis congrats u are world champions doesn't matter if he's the best player in the world he's the best player in the teams championship series and winning the Chip
I live one block away from Giannis in River Hills Wisconsin. I have spoke to him once in awhile when he walks around the block. He's a good down to earth young man. We are extremely proud of him as well as all of the other Buck's.
Acho was 100% right on this take!
I like Wiley, but he is dead wrong on this one!
This is coming from me, a Kawhi and Clippers fan.
Man acho could’ve easily destroyed Marcellus this take. “When’s the last time Giannis had 2 rings?” Acho could’ve easily said, “When’s the last time KD won one without atleast 2 hall of famers”
The scariest thing about Giannis is that he’s only 26. Like WTf?????
Giannis resume is already better than KDs
These braddas takes be aweeeessssooommeee
KD jumped on a championship team...end of story!!!
Was a hall of famer b4 that move
KD was already in the conversation for the Best in the world before that though so that’s not a valid argument lol
Big Facts
@@gatorboy21king in the conversation lol. and u talk about valid argument. he joined a stacked team after being up vs em and ppl will just blame westbrook as if kd didnt fail em also. i actually thought he was attempting to win it his way with kyrie in BK but apparently wanted to make his own super team. they prob win it next season if healthy tho but look at how he tried to win it this past season...
@@x9gio lol who tf forced his way to brooklyn? You act like kd demanded the rockets to send harden. What was brooklyn supposed to do? Turn down harden for kd "legacy"?
These guys best duo on tv.
Only ones I can stomach.
No gimmicks no narrator just great analysis by the fellas
Acho's opening statement left me hella confused
I was lost 😂😂
"You're welcome" *kobe voice*
I wasn't. Followed it perfectly
@@justcallmeal8495 man you aint the real messi
@@machinelearner3942 ofc im
Best player should also include intangibles. KD has not proven that he can win without another superstar.
Man don't get that far. Kd can't even contain himself from responding to trolls on Twitter. 😂
KD lost two exhibition games this year on team usa. Bum
Thas s true!!!
Cell said "I would be off the air IMMEDIATLY" lmao
I didn’t get that
@@solocreep9013 it's a Black thing
Kd is a great scorer, I’ll take Giannis.
The more Giannis shows how great he is. The more people try to bring him down and say he is not that great. I guess people ignored Giannis abusing KD in the post during their serious and air balling the game winning shot in overtime. People will always have selective memory. smh
I guess when Goku stated that freeza was stronger than him during the time he was battling in kaioken x 50.. then in the clutch Goku goes Super Saiyan and DESTROYS freeza. That means Goku is still weaker because he made a statement before ascending? 🤔🔥⚡
This is an amazing example I don't believe it's going to get the respect or adoration that it deserves
Wow I love this comparison so much
@@KingKalidor thanks so much bro but jokes aside. A statement means nothing than the final product:)
@@KJ-xx1sd my guy!
Kiss this guy so I wont have too, 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🍻🍺
one played with 2 future MVPs and lost. Joined the MVP who beat him up so he can win, too. Then left and rejoined another MVP, and another former champion, to keep on winning.
The other had a chance to do the same thing but chose to sign an extension with the same team that drafted him, allowed to build around him and led them to the promised land.
For everyone stating KD is better... When has KD lead a team to the finals and won.? His 2 chips came on the team that beat him the prior year and ty Lue stated him self as the opposing coach that he had to double team the best player on that team to even have a chance at winning. That player was Curry. KD won FMVP because he was left to be KD while the best player on his team was double and sometimes triple teamed at half court.
While I agree with you, look at it like this. If Middleton and holiday got hurt and kd won the chip ppl would look at it a lot differently lol
Yeah KD has 2 Chips but he was also on the best Super Team ever created.
Created, yes, arificially, but not the best team ever...
Giannis 1 ring is worth more than KDs 2 rings
@@chachis3867 way more. Think about It, Giannis one final, one ring. Did KD win his first finals? No. Giannis won It in the team that drafted him, KD won on the team that beat him. No all Championships rings are created equal
@@javigar133 kd still better then him keep crying
@@JODYJOE better in what? Lol Lastv3 years: Giannis won 2 MVPs for KDs zero, Giannis won DPoY and allnba defense for KDs zero, a ring and finals mvps for KDs zerom he scored more points and more efficiently, he gets more rebounds, he is in a different galaxy defensively... What does he do better? Not even scoring
Whenever I hear best player in the world, I'm always like what year you talking about about. At the end of the day like it or not, the player that gets the ring is the best. Simple. Skill and all that doesn't matter if you don't win it. As simple as that. Giannis is the best player in the world this year. GOAT? that's another discussion. How many rings, MVP's you got.
Shaq: "Giannis is better than me"
Thing we need to remember is, it's easy for KD to get those kind of numbers when your'e on a literal superteam. KD has yet to prove himself on a team that doesn't have a fellow superstar. Giannis did it all on a bum knee without ring chasing or superstar help once his whole career. The best racer in the "Tortoise and the Hare" was the tortoise. Not because he was faster or had more talent. It was because he persevered, wanted it more, and because he WON.
Kevin Durant is the best player in the world. BUT Giannis has something that makes you belive in him. I look forward to watching him next season.
Acho is really smart I should start watching his show more even do I can’t stand his cohosts I will like to see him and Cris Carter together
This debate is stupid. Giannis is defensive player of the year. Multiple first team all-defensive team selections. Plays with tons of passion and energy. All of the Bucks team follows his lead. KD scoring alone cannot compensate for all the things Giannis is and does on the court. KDs two rings are worthless.
Giannis playoff run better than both of KDs rings smh it's EASY to score when the defense gotta worry about Steph and Klay too 😴
Ancho keep it simple, you talk in circles both of y’all
They’re just trying to hard to sound intellectual
@@matiokmathiang2687 cuz they are educated and articulate!
Giannis - Nigerian DNA. Great talent
These guys show time and time again how to properly present an argument.
cel and acho are so much more entertaining more informed and less bs unlike other nba analysts
Wiley wearing his namesake with his closing comment - well played Mr. Wiley. Acho - have fun at homecoming this year - HAH!
Acho was soo good in the first minute i had to rewind it 3x to make sure i heard it right
I like when Giannis said he doesnt need a super team.
I know right. That will trigger James Harden and Kevin Durant. 😆🤣
Marcellus keeps bringing up career achievements and averages. That’s the past man. Is MJ the best player in the world right now? By Marcellus logic, MJ is better than KD, even today, because he has more achievements and better averages. It’s nonsense. As of today, this moment, Giannis is the best because he played the best this postseason.
Giannis literally said kd is better and he just got outplayed by kd last month
@@vinnybrown1122 outplayed mean he won, outplayed mean he put that heat on Giannis guarding him and neither happen
@@vinnybrown1122 he was being humble. He was equally as good as KD in the totality of that series when you include his excellent defense. He averaged 32, 13, and 4 to KD’s 36, 11, and 5. And he won too, which counts for something. And then he topped it by averaging 36, 13, and 5 in the finals. Which is better than KD has done in a series, ever, per basketball reference. Giannis is the man right now
@@wilkic2 o yeah giannis the guy who literally crowned himself during that lakers game last year is so humble. Please he thinks KDs better than because kd almost single handedly beat the bucks in the second round. But y’all will play dumb
@@vinnybrown1122 you didn’t address any of the facts and stats I presented on apples to apples performance, which showed that Giannis was better this postseason. Ad hominem attacks are all you can muster and it’s honestly pretty sad to see.
These two r the best sports talk team on tv💯
Giannis at 26 done it, how much more in his prime. now that's fun to watch.
Best Sports Talk show, smart and entertaining. No Egos
These two provide the (best) commentary out there.
Silla, KD has never performed as Giannis has these series, not his fault, just Giannis is... Out for words... Legendary? Period
Exactly Wiley! War of attrition! Acho trying to crown him best in the world prematurely. Nobody predicted this result. Congrats to Gianni's and I respect him as champion this year.
Just cause you won 3 years ago doesn't mean you are the best today. This is always Wiley's argument whether it is CP3 or KD, they did stuff in the past and for some reason that means something right now even though it doesn't.
Giannis dropped 40 in game 7 vs the nets I hate to say it but KD had 0 points in OT Giannis had 4
KD played every minute and did everything though so that stat is misleading.
@@noelbackwards What stat is that, winning? KD had game 6 and game 7 to closeout and failed.
Middleton & Holiday barely showed up that whole series, just in a couple of spurts. KD got good contribution from Jeff Green & Blake Griffin throughout as well so the narrative that he played 1 on 5 is false. If he did, then so did Giannis
@@twodogs5395 No 4 points to 0 in OT when KD literally made 2 insane shots to get it there and was totally spent.
Giannis ring>KD’s rings
Plus all of Lebron’s Miami and Los Angeles rings.
@@broaddusmarines If it wasn’t for the 73-9 Warriors you could add his Cavs one too.
@@broaddusmarines add the clev ring. He went there because he got Kyrie and Kevin tbh.
What did Giannis average in the finals 35...Durant? Didn't make it ..all that matters
Goodnight..call me when you need a burn
lolol right.
It's never not uncomfortable to hear y'all conversate fellas!! 💯
Wiley and Acho are really good at this ✔
Kd had Westbrook and Harden and couldn’t win with them. Gannis won wit Middleton and Holiday.
You so dumb KD played with them a decade ago against wade king and Bosh
@@deemoney7160 you guys love talking tough on the internet. Watch the name calling young man. Kd should’ve won at least one championship with that team. He had to join a team with even a more stronger supporting cast
@@deemoney7160 and you do know Lebron had went back to Cleveland before kd left okc
Every year we do this and I love it.
👏👏Hands up fa my dawgs they got the best sports talks show hands down 🙇
How can you separate Giannis as a Nigerian from you as a black American by not also calling him black?
On god 🤦🏾♂️... Always xenophobic
Giannis is humble. Only reason he said it.
Giannis and KD are the two best players in the league in my opinion.
Giannis is the Best Player. In THIS Playoffs.
KD is the Best Player. In This Season.
Bron is the better player, OVERALL between Giannis and KD.
MJ is the GOAT.
@@kei2kei No he isn’t anymore. LeBron can’t defend on the level of KD and definitely not on Giannis level and their offensive impact is just as big as his.
Giannis was being sarcastic when he called KD the best and KD definitely didn't out perform Giannis in that series
I'm only watching this because these guys are entertaining. Discussions about who is the best player in a forum like this are meaningless.
KD is Disqualified. He had Curry avg 30pts, Klay Avg 25 pts, and dray being dray. This year KD has had Harden avg 30pts and kyrie 25 - 30 pts avg. Hes had the best help and less attention on him. Giannis had a wall built and broke through it with just Middleton/holiday. Lol
Acho sure has with words.
Naija blooded achieving greatness. Showing boys why we never carry last
Love you guys! Best takes
I think if you put KD on the Bucks its not guaranteed to be a win - his play style might not fit with Jrue and Middleton just saying - and Giannis might have good numbers if he was asked to do what KD had to do with no help so the numbers dont really add up - in the end Giannis had a monster game at the most crucial moment so deserves to be called the best...right now
Man yall suit games are lit 👌👌
that was the best explanation....
I have such respect for Giannis. Like he said in his interview he could have turned down his max contract gone down to the Mavs and probably win a ton of rings with Luka. But nah he stuck with his team and his city and got them a ring.
Acho is so good to watch.
I love how these guys argue, more reasonable than skip
KD has played at least 5 more years than Giannis so stats will always favor him. Either compare 2 players at the same pojnt in their career or find another argument
He mentioned career Averages, not the total stats. So your point is invalid. He also mentioned when KD and Giannis went head to head THIS YEAR, and KD outperformed him.
@@johndarius18 Too bad KD couldn't get a bucket in overtime 🤷🏾♂️
@@johndarius18 career average hmm.. KD has better averages cos he is at his peak longer than giannis (only just entering peak) so if u want to do career comparison, either do it after their career ended or at-the-point comparison.
@@Tankt0ptig3r Thank you!
@@arlondwilliams971 yep
The fact that Giannis is only 26, it's scary to see what's gonna happen in the next 5 years knowing that he just entering his prime.
Cell To be fair I'm pretty sure that if you'd apply a dna test on one of KD's blood samples I have the intuition that 9X/10 the results might come back Nigerian positive because I can't tell you how many times I ran into Nigerian dudes in London that look just like KD either way Acho wins😅
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THAT OPENER WAS THE BEST!
Excellent job brothas!