The Story of Battle of Dazar'alor - Alliance & Horde POV [Lore]
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2019
- The Alliance is ready to assault the heart of the Zandalari empire and remove the Horde's most powerful ally out of the war. Last time they approached the capital, it didn't too well for their fleet but this time they had some time to prepare, gather allies and deceive the Horde. The Battle of Dazar'alor is upon us...I hope you'll enjoy!
Want more details on all the things we talked about today? Check out this WoWhead article:
hwww.wowhead.com/news=289947/t...
A big thank you to Fatbosstv, Slootbag and Squishei for helping me get some recordings on the Horde side. You can find them here:
Fatbosstv: / fatbosstv
Slootbag: / sloot
Squishei: / squishei
Timestamps:
Alliance war campaign 0:58 - 3:40
Horde war campaign 3:41 - 7:34
Battle of Dazar'alor 7:35 - 32:30
Aftermath 32:31 - 40:22
Ps. The fate of Gelbin might be tied to the Patch 8.2 Mechagon that they're adding. Gallywix mentions during the Horde war campaign that it seems like the king of the gnomes would like to be a robot himself. The mechagnomes in 8.2 replace their body with robotic parts, the more ya got the higher your standing is within their society. It's just speculation ofc, but seems reasonable.
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I was late because i was boosting The Hivemind JANIA WAS HELLA FUN
hivemind Sylvansas is worst
27:29 typical Daisy lol
Epic , But can u WHIP AND NAENAE AT THE SAME TIME !!!!!1
Rastakhan yelling "BWONSAMEDI" is the best piece of voice acting this xpac xD i love it so much. I gotta set it as an alarm
Lmaooo
I found it annoying. Not as annoying as Malfurion in Legion yelling Tyrande.....
damn, last time I was this early the grain just arrived at Stratholme...
😂😂😂 lmaoooo im weakkkk
No you didnt
brah
39:22
Sylvanas: You should be grateful.
Derek: LOOOOOOOOOOL
I can’t wait for him to take revenge on the Warchief... *puts outcast hood on*
thats all i can hear now lol
Bet Sylvanus is gonna have Derek end up killing Katherine Proudmoore and then he realizes what he's done and screams some more
Oh my god I can't unhear it. I'm wheezing.
bahahahhaahah
I'm laughing at how sad Gallywix was after we killed the gold elemental.
welp tha gallywix for ya but he probly looted it as well
@@moonFang32 Goblins sobbing everywhere.
And he is a racial leader...
I’ll admit, that put a smile on my face. Love taking away the things that failed Trade Prince loves.
19:30 lol so funny
no king rules forever, my fada
Oh, fada
W h y .
ZUCCSEADING YO FAAADAHHH!!!111
@@Letgoit2 You have been stopped.
@@youraverageshitposter9083 whaaat?
The Alliance should have just blown up the navy and left. Pushing into the city cost them an army, Mekkatorque, and the Abyssal Scepter, and in return they swapped an old king for a new (arguably more competent) queen and made some powerful loa very angry at them.
Alliance: "A king should be willing to die for his people."
Alliance: *asks Rastakhan to surrender*
Rastakhan: *refuses to surrender*
Alliance: :O
Sebastien Roux the :O is anduin, the rest doesn‘t give a shit
That is how true Kings “Surrender”
Lok’tar Ogar! Vengeance for Rastakhan!
Yeah, Double standard freaks.
Just because "A king should be willing to die for his people" doesn't mean he has to throw himself on a spear like an idiot.
The Alliance aren't the Burning Legion. Varian died for the world, Rastakhan died for his pride.
@@WuW0w0-m8m wrong. He died for his empire. Zandalar ruled by the blood trolls would be very bad. The Alliance wrote their own death sentence by putting in motions the events that lead to Queen Taligis installation. The Queen is far superior as a great ruler who will quickly overshadow her father.
Jaina Proudmoore is just that. Nothing more than proud of making bold moves, quick the leave, quick to talk shit, stir drama. I look forward to the day her life ends.
King Verian died honorably. .
Alliance: =killed like least several thousand trolls on the way here= "Surrender and you will be treated with dignity."
Rastakhan: =Doubt=
One thing that people dont give blizz enough credit for is the increase in quality and quantity of the voice acting. There is just SO MUCH awesome voice clips in this expansion.
You mean Magni telling us to heal "AZERATH WOOMS" and even critters in nazmir shouting "G'HUUuuUUUuUuN!11!!" at you?
@@themoreno2600 Ok so maybe not all of them are good.
Can i just have warcraft 3's sylvanas voice back now please? no oh ok bye.
Indeed!
Their Character writing as a whole is pretty good. Bwonsambdi is handsdown one of the most fun characters in WoW. His voice, his dialogue and his appearance just fits extremly well together.
So Jaina can raise the ship from the sea, make it fly all the way to the Undercity and magically power the cannons to blast all the walls.....but here she has trouble holding up a shield against the trolls attacks.....uh huh
its ridiculous how powerful she is shown to be and then she still loses.
And she can freeze blight from an entire battlefield, shield and teleport every alliance leader out to her ship but gets tired from an arcane bubble.
ok
Jaina staff is probably the most powerful mage weapon to ever exist currently. It is a artifact in its own rate on par with the ones mages got in Legion but the 3 in legion got 'broken' absorbing corruption.
@@domehammer I mean I think Atiesh, wielded by Khadgar, is the most powerful, but maybe i'm misinformed
I think raising the ship and gaining control of the seas required a long time. You can compare it to Illidan's spellwork in Outland.
Just realized they’re gonna introduce mechagnomes as a playable allied race by using Mekkatorques survival as the story. He will survive by turning into a mechagnome. And yep nobbel just said it as I was typing this out.
Yup! We know they're a-comin' Maybe Tinker class too?
I agree. I hope we see more of the Darkfallen, as they’ve recently taken a liking to drinking gnome blood. But more likely it will be those mutant aquatic goblins.
@Frostek its gonna happen eventually bud. watch. i could see horde and alli both getting their own unique classes.
@Frostek Nothing. I don't smoke, I don't drink, and the only drugs I take are those prescribed by my doctor. Go check the forums.
gotta keep those reskins as 'new races' going to cash in on those sweet sweet 25-30 USD services that are done within mere seconds and no stress for the servers whatsoever
I love this raid on a lore perspective because we FINALLY get to see the Alliance make the first move in the war instead of just being re-active to whatever the Horde does.
@Prophet Beavis 1.) The 1st, 2nd, and 4th war started because of the "Horde" (and Horde adjacent). Not to mention all the shit that Garrosh did. Are you fucking high?
@@BigGayConnor To be fair the Alliance has a bad habit of performing genocide on things they are afraid off
Reacting to the Horde is actually to be expected in that regard
@@aitipsea3909 Alliance has a habit of performing genocide? Horde literally paved a road with the bones of the draenei TWICE, and not both times influenced by the Legion.
I know that Horde isnt the same as the current one, but do we forget the burning od Teldrassil? Just because Saurfang and maybe a handful of people were against it doesnt mean the whole Horde was against it. Most of the Horde wasnt even bothered by it until the Alliance retaliated by attacking Undercity.
@@Thoregor We cant forget the races of the Alliance are responsible for horrible acts wether they are part of the Alliance at that point in time or not:
The draenei were the ones who lead the legion to Draenor and the orcs, the night elves caused the first legion invasion on Azeroth, humans created orc concentration camps (not only unethical but also economically disadvantageous), Garithos and his men were racist cretins, the night elves rejected the tauren who did nothing wrong to them and refused to help them with the centaurs which is why they joined the Horde, Jaina purged the blood elves of Dalaran out of paranoia, the murder of civilians of Camp Taurajo, going after Thrall when he was on his way to save the world and the anhilation of the goblin ship because they were near to them, Genn attacking the Horde at Stormhein during a period of peace (like if he wants revenge thats fine but I think dealing with the Burning Legion is a bit more important rn), the draenei of alternate Draenor helped by the Alliance becoming religious fascists, incarcelating the Vulpera because they accepted Horde jobs simply to survive in a wasteland, killing Zandalari civilians (merchants and beggers) and plundering for treasures and killing Rastakhan when Anduin explicitly told them not to do any of those things.
What makes Alliance/Horde conflict interesting is that both factions have had corrupted individuals and soldiers doing bad things because they were misguided by those in power. Queen Azshara is basically the night elf equivalent of Gul'Dan; as some soldiers of the Alliance were disgusted by the attacks on Taurajo, Dalaran and Stormhein so too were Horde soldiers disgusted by Theramore, Valley of Eternal Blossoms and Teldrassil. Both factions are guilty of something and thats what makes their mutual hatred interesting: no one is innocent here; one is brought down by savage conquest and anarchy while the other is brought down by discrimination and zealotry, and it is these shortcomings inflicted on others that allows the opposite faction to gain races and support
@@Thoregor That's like saying Democrats are the same from centuries ago. Just because they have the name, doesn't mean they are the fucking same.
I'm gonna miss Rastakhan he was my favorite new character from BFA. :(
Bruh we all knew Talanji was going to take over anyway. I thought that after Zul stabbed Rastakhan he would die and Talanji would become Queen and join the horde.
Damn shame too, he really turned out to be a cool character with a lot of potential, but nope guess we just gotta accept Princess No-Personality as the Zandalari leader now.
@@buldren0101 It's like what they did to vol'jin.
Yea i miss him too,but can we have him in guestline that we see him as a ghost like we see Vol'jin spirit in the guestline that you, Vol'jin, Talanji and Baine are trying to find who give Vol'jin the vision to name Sylvanas warchief.
@@stanislavkoev467 that reminds me, I still haven't encountered vol Jin as an NPC but I've heard that he becomes an NPC in the necropolis? Idk
High Tinker's voice actor, as well as Bwonsamdi's, are so good
Rastakhan's VA too.
Bwonsombi has the greatest dialogue. Absolute chaotic evil character but seriously funny as hell in a darker sense 26:17-26:19
Like holy shit that Bwonsamdi voice actor (Alex Dessert) is so good man. I can listen to him all day.
Bownsandi like “I’m having so much FUN!!”
Ever since I saw the first "gorilla warfare" pasta in youtube comments I've always wanted to use this: not only Alliance hit the Horde with guerilla tactics but they also them with actual gorilla tactics
I don't understand how attacking the Zandalar was supposed to destabilized relations with the Horde.... if anything you are giving them a common foe....
Bad writing is bad
I think because the Alliance thought that if they destroyed the Zandalari fleet the horde would abandon them.
Quest just says to destroy the ships because they will be used again against ally. Not that killing troll will make them not go horde, just make them a deadweight
Yeah, thats what I am thinking as well. Just bad writing I guess.
And it would be even easier to just say: we attack them to cripple the fleet that could best our fleet. At the same time, you should be aware of the fact that attacking them and killing the king might piss them off really bad.
And sitting on an island with a nation who might have the support of several Loa is scary...
I mean, lets be honest: if he actually wanted to, Bwonsamdi could propably kill most of the alliance army on his own...
@@Rakshiir Bwonsamdi? Helping the Banshee queen? Suuuuure, that will happen...
If there’s anything we learned from the alliance’s attack, it’s that next time we should inspect every inch of our ships so they don’t get blown up again, there are plenty of heroes crazy enough to do that for us.
Who was that amazing holy paladin at the end tho
As somebody who only raids with LFR I thank you Nobbel for letting me the happenings of this raid for both Horde and Alliance. Thanks!
Same here. Im more for PvP.
You dont really raid then, you just hit test dummies.
Have Bwonsamdi and Sylvanas ever actually interacted? Because I imagine that would be interesting.
I was kinda wondering why she didn't offer to resurrect the king.
@@grandoldpodcast She wouldn't have been able to, 1. his body already deteriorated during his last moments and 2. his soul is firmly in the hands of Bwonsamdi, I guess you could ress his body as a ghoul but I doubt it would do any good
They haven't really interacted, but so far it seems that Bwonsamdi hates her.
look forward to 8.1.5 or 8.2
bwonsamdi would just kill her, she's sticking her fingers too deep into his territory.
I listened to Before the Storm on Audible, and I loved it. It’s actually read by Anduin’s Voice Actor.
At last, the very much expected story from our favourite Loremaster, thanks again! ^^
Sylvanas really wants that little lion on his knees...😂.
This was perfect! Thanks as always for your amazing works!!
I absolutely *loved* this raid. The content of this expansion has so far mostly felt like prep-work, but now the "Battle for Azeroth" has finally actually begun. My only real criticism has to fall on the half-assed way they implemented Jaina as a bossfight. I mean, she faced off against the people who are referred to on a regular basis as the mightiest champions the Horde have to offer yet sho got away pretty much completely unscathed. Granted, she is *extremely* powerful, but she's still only one person. It feels like she was included as a boss just as a "wouldn't it be cool if you fought Jaina" type scenario but with there being no real consequences for her, why have it be Jaina in the first place? At the very least, I'd like to have seen her be crippled in some way (now there's a line you don't wanna say without context :P) but she wasn't even hospitalised.
Technically it's the second time the Horde has fought Jaina in game lol
In BFA, Jaina is protected by plot armour that's so thick it even protects her from character development and the consequences for her actions.
horde is weak
@@onlycorndog6322 Well...Christie Golden is writing the story and her favourite characters are Anduin and Jaina.
So yeah...none of those two are going to die.
That was simply for the raid purpuse. If they didn't make it like this, it wouldn't really make much sense. But yes, I agree with you.
Heroes of the Horde can slay N'zoth but can't kill Jaina Proudmoore. She has to be a Nathrezim or Demon of some sort. Like why doesn't she just kill N'zoth or something? She's literally more powerful than an Old God.
The Alliance objective was to destroy the Zandalari fleet and force Rastakhan to surrender or to capture him as a hostage. If they were able to do either, they could force the Zandalari to expell the Horde from Zandalar, depriving the Horde of a critical naval port which would be perfect to reinforce Horde efforts on the Eastern Kingdoms, and depriving the Horde of a sizable new army to join the war.
In the scheme of the battle itself, if they had managed to force Rastakhan to surrender, the Horde army would have been trapped on Zandalar outnumbered and without escape, without Zandalari support and with Dazar'alor held by the Alliance.
The critical failure of the Alliance was killing Rastakhan, because all they have done was to solidify Talanji's Alliance with the Horde, with no hope of holding the city.
In my opinion, this battle was in fact a strategic loss and tactical pyrrhic victory for the Alliance. Ironically, their deception in Nazmir was too successful, with the Horde taking Zandalar's best ships up to Nazmir when the Alliance launched their attack.
The Alliance sacrificed too much in Nazmir, and the main combined Zandalari-Horde army didn't actually suffer much casualties when they returned to Dazar'alor.
The Alliance lost quite a sizable chunk of their rear guard during their retreat and would have lost a lot more if not for Jaina Proudmoore hard carrying the Alliance retreat. And even so, they still lost quite a few ships.
In this battle, the Alliance sacrificed an entire army in Nazmir, blitzed the skeleton crew of Dazar'alor's garrison while the main navy and army were away, and then took far heavier than expected casualties and losses of veteran 7th Legion during their retreat.
The Horde's main forces and the Zandalari army were relatively unscathed and intact despite losing King Rastakhan who, lets be honest, was already on the way out. Rokhan's forces in Nazmir were defeated but not decimated, and Dazar'alor's garrison was blitzed but remained a fighting force throughout the battle.
This wasn't a decisive Alliance victory..This was Pearl Harbour..it pushed the momentum in the Alliance's favour but it failed to eliminated the Horde's capabilities to wage war.
Well said.
Zandalari lost over half their fleet in the bombing. Not to mention Zandalari ships would be garbage in ship to ship combat especially compared to Kul Tiran ships that have sea magic all through them. The characters on both sides say it clearly: the alliance is winning. Thats why Sylvanas falls back on another evil scheme that Baine apparently ruined anyway.
FOR THE HORDE!
True. This technically an Alliance victory but it didn't do anything substantive for the war effort.
1.) The Horde still has a pressence on Zandalar, despite the losses inflicted on then by the Alliance invasion.
2.) The Zandalari formally joined the Horde, multiplying the Alliance's enemies and the Horde's military capabilities.
3.) King Rastakan's death didn't stop the Zandalari. It only caused Princess Talanji, arguably a better leader, to take the throne.
4.) The Alliance expended a HUGE amount of resources to launch this assault, which weakens them strategically.
5.) The Alliance lost a HUGE number of troops and may even lose Mechatorque himself.
In conclusion, I would argue that the HORDE won the battle because the Alliance didn't really accomplish anything for their sacrifice.
@@onlycorndog6322 Canonically horde lose more force from those fleet alone than entire alliance present in the assault.
26:42 me watching my brother forced to do the dishes because I have a "fever"
These type of videos are the best. love this way of story telling
Wow... Genn's prejudice and arrogance is overwhelming. Just like Sylvanas's unfathomable hubris.
Therefore, I see the only option...is to join N'zoth!
If only that was possible
She offered the Horde every chance to turn back.
Jaina: KILL’EM ALL!!!
Both narrators, Otoye for Horde and Tandred for Alliance, are unrreliable in order to make their side look better
Otoye tells the Horde that Genn wanted Rastakhan to kneel and Talanji as a prisoner when he said nothing of the sort
Tandred tells the Alliance that Jaina was noble and tried to avoid conflict when in reality she was shown to be sadistic
"failure is your family lagacy "
roasted
racim ramzi lmfao oh yeah burned hard
Nobbel is the embodiment of the lorewalker title
Alliance lures army out, attacks civilian population and slays Rhastakan
"Lady Admiral was as gallant as they come, offering them every chance to back down"
u wot
Bias
You sure you're not being sliiiiiightly biased there? The only civilians that were killed were the ones that attacked the Alliance as they went through, which makes them no longer civilians. And Genn literally tells Rastakhan to surrender directly before Rastakhan insults everyone who isn't a Zandalari.
That's what the new PC leftist cucks at blizzard think "honorable" would mean lol. Sadly most Horde heroes in blizz are gone now
It hurts to hear a few of the comments made by some of the Alliance, Genn and Mekkatorque for example. Alliance locks Talanji up in Stormwind, Horde breaks her out and she's appreciative, but apprehensive of it. Rastakhan makes a deal with Bwomsamdi only to save his people. Pricey, but he didnt do it "power for power's sake." Even though raising the dead is Bwomsandi's power, Genn says the Zandalari deserve what they get' suffice to say the only time Rastakhan utilizes it is to DEFEND HIS HOME. Rastakhan willing to sacrifice himself for his people in his fight, only to be looked down on for "not surrendering," even though the Alliance wiped out half of their population by that point.
Not trying to take away all the messed up things the Horde did leading up to this moment. Likewise, the characters don't know what WE know. All the while though, it's behavior and attitudes like this that push the outsiders together - the creation of The Horde.
Very well said.
Yea that's exactly my issue. I feel like the writers have made Sylvanas out to be this maniacal villain willing to do anything to achieve her goals, but it's not much different than what the alliance have been doing especially to people not initially involved in the Horde vs Alliance conflicts. The Alliance spurred a lot of this on throughout history and they act surprised by increased retaliations. First there was the warmonger Garrosh who retaliated against them with extreme actions, next it was Sylvanas, now Talanji's gonna do something and also be scapegoated as a villain despite them invading her home and killing her father.
@@HoboJoe10000 That's always been the Alliance's greatest flaw; for all their talk about honor, nobility, and justice; they can be quite xenophobic and arrogant.
Krovgor Warhawk considering the horde is a construct of the Orcs brought to this world to conquer it, after destroying their own world I might add, by agents of the burning legion. Anything the alliance would do to purge the horde from its world would be justified. Or are you saying if some Alien race came to earth with the intent of taking it over, enslaving it’s people, and taking all the resources we humans should just bow down? While the Orcs are no longer under the effects of the demon blood they drank on draenor, they have not proven to be able to settle for just their given land.
I do understand this is a storyline in a game and needs to create conflict, it is why people say the horde is basically evil and the alliance good, notwithstanding individual members of each faction.
@@bhzikerI'm not saying that the Horde is without flaws, I just wanted to say that the Alliance has it's share of flaws. Personally I don't see the factions as good or evil, just different shades of guilt.
Great vid, always a pleasure.
Been waiting for this one!
A troll that uses the light sounds interesting.
Bwonsamdi is best loa!
Let the horde have their revenge!
Well thats the thing, I don't think the horde should have revenge really, but I do think the alliance should have more bad guys for the horde to kill so they can be the good guys every once in a while since the horde has routinely played the bad guy at this point.
I want Shaw. He’s done shady shit in the past and I wish they had a new Garathos that was xenophobic to match. Something to stain the Alliance in the open and not just their recent past.
Trolls using the light only exsist because the horde babies cried hard enough.
Trolls using the light exists because of Blizzards long time established lore.
@@JohnDoe-vn1we Troll paladins have been a thing waaaay before now.
the fact that Mekkatorque survies a balista shot to the face, doesn't make sense at all
It's okay, he is wearing plate armour... right?..
he has like millions of health duhh
It didn't hit him in the face tho? it hit the ground he was standing on which made him fall to the lower levels of the ship
Justin Mitchell it hit him otherwise if it hit the ground otherwise he would have fallen through the upper deck
@@Jay-kr7kt we saw allis ships going down by 1-2 shots of said balista in the intro to zandalar so yes it is a "bit" lucky
astonishing well done as always buddy ♥
I do like how our visit to alternate Draenor actually DID impact some things (since the Mag'har come from nearly 30 years after the time we were there - even though it wasn't that long ago for us). We apparently taught the Mag'har how to be classes like monks.
Also, for Zandalari paladins, it doesn't matter if Rezan is gone now. They might've thought they were getting their power from Rezan, but that's not how the Light works. Even after Rezan was gone, a Zandalari paladin could continue to wield the light as long as they continued to believe in it.
33:06 feels relateable man. its so annoying that they force the music on you in some parts of the story now. and always super loud.
to the top with you
I agree. It's absolutely obnoxious.
"Were you planning to sparkle me to death?" best line :D
You think you are better than me?
YOU THINK YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME?
*LETS GO TINKER BOY*
The Troll Champion of Light says "Light guide me ... to de ... Other Side" and because of Blizzcon this year we know The Other Side is Bwonsomdi's Pocket Dimension in the Shadowlands so I'm going to say that the Boss is a paladin of Bownsomdi.
Awesome Job 👍🏻
Talanji, my daugtah..... **eye starts flaming blue** ...you're gonna have a bad time... **megalovania wow theme remix starts playing**
I can't express my hate towards this comment.
Voljin questline becomes available after you finish this quest, hopefully you cover it in next video :)
as a horde player i got to give it to the alliance, they caught us mostly with our pants down
I hope you'll see this and reply Nobbel but do you have any more information on the imprisonment of talanji at the start of all this like why she was captured in the first place? Because as I see it the alliance committed an act of war against the zandalari first as at the time they were neutral and not allied with the horde yet
Well, they HAVE tried to wipe all of us out multiple times...Just look at what Zul did...
@@Diree What ZUL did. As far as I know, Rastakhan never ordered him to do all of this shit.
Talanji was out to seek help from the Horde. Being that they are Zandalari, the Alliance have every right to imprison them and kill them if they wanted to. Like another comment posted, Zul's actions in both Cata and Mop give the Alliance all the right in the world to detain them. But being that they are the Alliance they spared their lives.
@@silverspear21 May I remind you that Zul was technically not acting on Rastakhans behalf.
@@thefacelessone5591 What does that have to do with anything? Did the Alliance know that? Did you or I know that in cata and mop? Remember that the Night Elves know the Troll history better than most and they know of the ways of the Zandalari. For all we know, Anduin was probably waiting to hear from Tyrande and Malfurion before deciding what to do with Talanji. But since they were both still recovering from the World Tree burning they had more important things to attend to than to council the "boy King" and teach his history.
Very even handed and morally grey story telling, the incompotent tree burning, war crime committing and divided horde againt the pure, perfect, multiple times victorious and united Alliance. So beautiful and complex /s
I am getting increasingly sick of you people, calling everything (Tree was evil, yes) the Horde does wrong and cruel and unreasonable, when that's not what's going on. And even sicker of you worthless filth ignoring everything the Alliance is doing that isn't even close to morally good, always justifying themselves with "the Horde does worse" either have consistent morals or throw them in the trash YOU FUCKING PISS ME OFF.
@@varnisa get your head checked. Genocide is as evil as it gets
@@varnisa The tree burning wasn't evil as much as it was retarded. A single night elf talked back to Sylvanas and she threw a fit. Sylvanas will act like a idiot when provoked. Which will likely be her downfall.
domehammer she did not burn the tree because of being talked back to lmao it’s pretty obvious it was an ulterior motive
Great Video mate.
Love the respect that the high tinker is getting
someone asked you when the bombs were placed ey? wonder who that could be :)
Alliance Logic: If we siege the Troll city it should totally destablize relations between them and the Horde...
Tzeentch: AHAHAHAHAHA
u mean blizzard logic, blizzard writes the story, u know?
It would seem like tzeentch plan to foil his other plan.
Damm the revan god.
The blood god (Khorne) is very happy with this war!!!
@@malaficus hey hey hey now, give credit where credit is due plebeians, it's about time my plans finally came to fruition.
I love your lore videos!
I love the story writing in this expansion
Am I the only one interested for Talanji and Bwonsamdi's interactions
rastakan accent is just golden !!
Well told. I don't play anymore, but I still love the story telling.
Wow that gnome wireless bomb thing scene was goofy xD
Wow, can someone please re-purpose Baine into burgers? This is primary school level dialogue.
Im sure the Blood Elves would be happy with that.
11:55 R.I.P. lovely Longboi.
Anyone else think Bwonsamdi looks and acts much like Hades from Hercules animated film?
Good stuff!!
Good stuff!!
Thanks. I quit wow. but I was curious how things are going. Definately dont miss it from the looks of this.
Currently hooked on FF14
I find Genn having huge amount of double standards when so coldly saying Rastakhan was a cassualty of war, but at the same reacting so emotionally to Varians and his sons death.
They both were casualties of the war so how he reacted to and said Rastakhan chose his fate same could be said about both of them so he shouldn't react emotionally Varians or his sons death.
Basic human emotions 101: The closer they are too us the more we care.
It is easy to call some troll king he doesnt care for a cassualty of war.
It is hard to call your own child or best friend a cassualty of war.
Also both those wars where unprovoked.
King Rastakhan knew that letting the horde stay would make him a target as the horde was already at war with the alliance.
He isnt that stupid(it is why he is dragging his feet in joining the horde. Would you want to get your people involved in there wars?)
He atleast had a choice not to get involved into the war at all.
@@malaficus Yeah I get its basic human emotions, but you can't use the excuse that the was only casualties of war, if you can't take the same excuse as its double standards at its highest. Also Varian died because Mathoas shaw failed to do his job and got captured before the events at the broken shore so Genn should be mad at him for it, not sylvanas.
Also Gurubashi, Amani and sandfury tribes were at the zuldazar for years and they were at war with the alliance and the horde and letting them stay didn't make them at target, so why would the horde then?
Secondly Alliance forced Rastakhans hand by capturing and imprisoning Zul and Talanji. Actually no he didn't have a choice Alliance captured their major political figures for no reason and sent an navy to zandalari waters and had troops in Talanji's rebuke area of zuldazar.
From Rastakhans PoV alliance were out to get him.
@@johannessimola1615 But humans are hypocrits.
That is kinda the whole problem with our spieces.
@@malaficus Nearly every respetacble leader in humans history has shown that they know letting their blind emotions dominate them is stupid and know that acting hypocritically even if they lose many people they love only causes misfortune.
So why can't genn act like a proper ruler?
@@johannessimola1615 Knowing and doing are two different things. Our own history is full of pridefull leaders who allow there country to be ruined for pride alone.
As for why genn cant act like a proper ruler?
He is the only alliance leader who remotely does.
There is a reason so many want him has high king.
He threats his enemies as enemies, Care's for his people and honor his debts.
But blizzard has shown time and again to have no concept on anything remotely normal human behavior.
I remember several thousent of topic's complaining on how anduin is to soft, tyrande was reduced to a thropy wife the gnomes didnt do anything, velen was kinda there but forgettable.
Jania turns her point of view every five min.
Genn is the most love alliance charater because he is the only one with a personality.
I think the Loa that the Zandalari Prelates worship now is Akunda. The buff you get from his altar is called Holystorm, and the proc deals Holystorm damage, so he uses a combination of nature and holy magic.
I've been gearing up some alts through timewalking for this raid. The first LFR wing will come out this week.
for a "severely" wounded Jaina Proudmoore she stands, talks and reason quite lively. Oh, right, she's alliance, ofc she's invulnerable - how could i forget.
Your Green J did everything for 3 expansions
shut it
Which is why even Horde disliked green Jesus. Alliance players worship at the feet of Jaina.
Gnome king: possible dies
You: alliance leaders are invulnerable!
Malfurion could tear Sylvanas apart back in ashenvale but he just blinded her...because of reasons? Main characters don't just die like that but I agress it is a bad writing.
@@filipkwasnik7926 Gnome king is going to come back stronger as the leader of the new mecha-gnome allied race
gnome king didn't die, he just froze himself kinda like magni did he'll probably come back in a few expansions as a new gnome just like Magni did
Rastakhan ain't coming back though
Predictions
Derek will attempt to kill jaina
Kathrine will sacrifice her life to protcc her
Jaina be even more mad
Talanji vs jaina will be super interesting
I agree on the Talanji vs Jaina thing. In one corner, we have a super powerful mage who was once so openminded and idealistic, who was quickly twisted to hating everyone who had anything to do with Theremore's destruction. Talanji was the same. Perhaps a bit more jaded to the alliance, but she wasnt bloodthirsty by any means. Perfect illustration of the vicious cycle the Alliance and the Horde are locked in. Proudmore made another Theremore.
@@aerieleah533 You are blind to the facts but it is ok it suits your wants. Jaina was not "quickly twisted". You should go read up on previous lore and expansions and even Warcraft. Jaina has been fighting for peace for years and years only to have the Horde repeatedly ruin those chances.
I can see Derek being the reason why the Alliance accept undead, they were already willing to accept them back in before Sylvanas killed her own people.
I would not be surprised if Blizzard end up splitting both factions and ending up with 3. Each faction for a Windrunner sister.
Sometimes this game is really really scary. To think of the lengths some people will go to get what they want. No wonder Orcs just wanna fight and win honorably. Most of everyone else schemes so deeply it borders on insane, if not vile.
What a glorious death Rastakan got. And the way they showed it was amasing!!!
"Her heart is a crater... And we have filled it." We might have a new contestant for this whisper now that our princess is a queen.
It could also be connected with the fact that Bwonsamdi has a boss
I still think that this refers more to Azeroth or maybe Alleria. There's been no Void relations with any of the Zandalari aside from G'huun, and Talanji never showed any signs of allying with him.
Vengeance for Zul'jin! VENGEANCE FOR RASTAKHAN!
Horde = Avengers
Alliance = Justice League
Lol
Reap what you sow horde fuckwad.
The fucking 3 fingered asshats will pay for killing mekkatorque
@@JohnDoe-vn1we I guess that means that the Proudmoores will be no more when we decimate Kul Tiras.
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
She fought countless deamons int the nether,
but when we fought against their Overlord Sargeras
she shines with brilliant apsences.
in my eyes she is only a offended shirker with too much Power.
Whoa "The pyramid is Alliance 'property;"? Damn Alliance Colonizers!!
Thanks for the laugh.
If this ends with another Siege or Orgrimmar I will straight up quit WoW.
The shitty state of the game already made me quit, but yeah the story writing this xpac certainly isn't tempting me to go back.
Good one less hypocrite playing.
@@JohnDoe-vn1we How is it hypocritical?
Please do one less Horde hypocrite.
i don't think we'll end up killing sylvannas this xpac, but leading into the next one, most likely yes. she will be a tool in helping Nzoth
Oh wow, it'd be nice for our motivation to go to mechagon would be to rebuild gelbin. We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
Gonna be fun seeing him turn into a Warhammer 40 000 Dreadnought. xD
And once again, the Horde starts a war against the Alliance, only to get soundly beat. They have a long line of losses, which makes me wonder, why would they even attempt to fight the Alliance knowing they'll just lose, again.
First they imprisoned their princess.
Then destroyed their capitol.
And Anduin think they haven't lost sight of who they are? Okay, boy.
Imprisoned her because she was traveling with known super villain Zul. Destroyed their capital because they allowed the horde to use it as a military staging point.
@@Moadar Alliance are just like USA, fucking terrorists.
That's what the new PC leftist cucks at blizzard think "honorable" would mean lol. Sadly most Horde heroes in blizz are gone now
@@Moadar they still attacked civilians and peaceful archaeologists. The Alliance is JUST as bad as the Horde, if not worse given their history.
The whole Defias Brotherhood storyline still paints The Alliance as scum, just to start from Vanilla.
Culling of Dalaran is another thing.
Attack on Undercity in Wrath.
There are PLENTY of cases where the Alliance, just like the Horde, went too far.
It's funny how people either take one extreme stance or the other, even when it comes to a video game.
@@MrMhtmht Thrall is, apparently, making a comeback, though. Hopefully this'll herald in a new time for the Horde. One where childish writers don't mess up the characters in the game.
Yes an alliance attack will surely destabilize relations between horde and zandalari....didn't twilight's hammer have a similar plan that actually worked? sad that a group of fanatical lunatics have better strategies than the alliance.
Again. The whole point was never to weaken their relation. The whole point was to take them out of the war. The alliance want the Zandalari navy to be gone. That is their target. They hold talanji hostage to make sure Zandalari won't join the Horde.
Whomever was manning the ballista that shot Mekkatorque and Jaina needs a promotion.
Damn they wernet kidding when they said that Tension between NPC's were rising, just wondering when we get some world pvp going?
But yeah, Blizz isn't playing favorites at all. Nope. Completely no bias for the Alliance at all.
That's what the new PC leftist cucks at blizzard think "honorable" would mean lol. Sadly most Horde heroes in blizz are gone now
Well...Christie Golden is writing the story now.
Who are her favorite characters? Anduin and Jaina.
Guess which characters got an immense plotarmor and massive power-ups...
19:03 & 19:28. Gallywix's VA is so good. Alliance are really the real monsters... LOL
Zandalari really need to rethink their harbor security procedures
Or maybe their maintenance plans?
I guess they never did this for their ships, otherwise they would have found the bombs.
the way you pronounce the R is really satisfying ;)
Lord Admiral Spire coming to kill some trolls after dealing with chaos
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
Playing Battle for Azeroth at this time is like watching your best friend die from tuberculosis.
It's only ever gonna get worse, you both know it and neither of you can do anything about it.
Whether you like or hate the characters, nobody can deny that how this expansion has been utilising them is nothing less than heinous.
The alliance are all the same person at this point, a sociopath obsessed with vengeance they stopped earning a long time ago.
Sylvanas has polarised the entire fanbase, even though she is probably the only relevant character in the game anymore.
Everything else is either forgotten as quickly as it's discovered and it genuinely feels like nobody cares about what happens by then end of this mess, but we just want it to end as quick possible.
this was great especially cos it seems like no one runs these raids anymore. been in queue for hours
Nobbel, when you telling story of a fight it feels like you are explaining tactics.
I see that top of the dps meter😎😎😎
I see you man. Paladin slaying them undead. Love you videos and your voice is always so calming. Keep it up bud.
"Rastakhan chose his fate when he sided with the horde", no he decided his fate when you imprisoned his daughter and trusted aide
Or he decided his fate from what the Zandalari did in Cata and MOP.
I was waiting for Bwonsamdi to interrupt Derek's resurrection
One question though regarding the power tide sceptar... didn't brotehr pike mentioning he must now bring it back to savety in the far reach? or did my memory trick me?