‘Untapped power’: EVs pumped electricity into the grid after transmission towers went down
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Sky News host Steve Price says electric vehicles were used to pump power back into Victoria’s electricity grid after the state’s transmission towers went down in Western Geelong in February.
“A disastrous event saw an opportunity to use something called untapped power,” Mr Price said.
“When the transmission lines fell over 16 electric vehicles in a trial located way, way in Canberra detected the disruption and within seconds pumped power back into the electricity grid.”
I heard a very good German quote the other day, " If you buy an EV, also buy a dog, so you don't have to walk home alone."
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I have an EV. It has a powerful motor and is very compact. It's really good at cleaning the dirt up on my floors and is bagless to boot.
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My suggestion is to buy one with a smaller battery. Aside from being cheaper, they also have limited range, so the temptation to drive it too far away is reduced.
@@tin2001 I have a Model S but anything less than 200 miles of range is too much of a PITA to deal with especially if you can't charge at home.
And they powered 8 homes for 10 mins.
Only to charge other EVs... sounds like communism.
100KWH battery pack in a car is quite large. That's probably about 3 days worth of electricity for a moderately sized home. I personally use only about 15KWH per day.
@@imzjustplayin yeah as you said A moderately sized home
1 home.
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And then the drivers drove home in diesel utes
Hahahaha not funny for people in homes hilarious watching Labor destroy a perfectly working power grid
what idiot would leave their ev plugged in as power companies
drain their batteries during increased blackouts
due to ideological obsession with unreliable renewables!?
They get paid. If you pay $1 to charge your car, you might get paid $5 to discharge your car if there is an acute energy shortage.
It's not that simple. You cannot pull the plug out of an EV until the car and the charger agree to let you do so (same problem during a fire situation). If during a power outage your "Smart Meter" decides to drain your EV to the grid you will be unable to pull the plug. ""Smart Meters" are not for your benefit.
@@SalemikTUBE Unless you don't have permission to unlatch/disconnect an EV charging cable, the car isn't going to prevent you from releasing the charging cable. If you're charging at home, you have 100% control over the situation and if you're at a public charging station, they're not likely to do V2G.
There is ZERO evidence they're going to force people to participate in V2G and when they start doing V2G, people will do it because there is a financial incentive to do so. The best part about owning an EV is that if any shenanigans happens with the government and the electric grid, you can go off grid entirely.
It's pretty clear you don't own an EV.
@@imzjustplayinyeah right…
@@batmanlives6456 You seek facts to support your beliefs, I seek facts to create my beliefs. Things change and some ideas become bad ideas and some bad ideas become good ideas. EVs are a good idea if you have cheap electricity and the vehicle can fulfill most of your needs given its limitations. I don't recommend EVs to everybody because I don't believe they're ready for mass adoption but I do believe EVs are the future.
Hybrids are good for most people and have the environmental benefits that are 90% of what EVs powered by fossil fuels are. Only reason to force mass adoption of EVs is because the grid is 100% renewable energy and EVs charging infrastructure is ubiquitous and fast.
Untapped power would indicate that it's always there and freely available. That is a bit like saying that furniture is an untapped source of firewood. It's not. It's being used. You only burn your furniture when it's desperately cold and there is no other way to keep warm.
They say it is and should be free. Dirty Governments.
It's in use in the car giving it the ability to go places if the driver chooses.
EVs are a waste of money and too dangerous 🔥🔥☠️⚰️
Thankfully gasoline powered vehicles never catch fire....oh wait.
@@imzjustplayin they are easier to put out though
@@imzjustplayin You say this as if you had a point. As if they're prone to exploding, catching fire with regularity, much less compared to EVs.
@@garrett3117 you have that backwards. Gasoline and hybrid vehicles catch fire at a significantly higher rate: Data from the National Transportation Safety Board showed that EVs were involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles were involved in fires for every 100,000 sold
@@imzjustplayinyou missed the point …
Gas fires can be put out…
EVs …..
NOT
You can't make this up. We are well and truly fucked.
Drain car batteries?!!!
Does ANYBODY have even a tiny brain out there?
It’s like a Monty Python sketch - but REAL
LOMAO .What absolute BS ,
Imagine if it was a rank of ambulances on charge at the time, then got called out to emergencies but found their batteries drained.
Good point!
Our politicians don't care though as it won't affect them.
V2G would likely have discharge limits that can be set by the user or the user can choose to opt out entirely.
I doubt emergency services would configure their electric vehicle fleet to feed back into the grid. It's entirely optional, and has to be wired up with a charger capable of doing it. A basic mains charger won't do it at all, and fast chargers are generally one way.
Gaslighting at it's finest. Champagne quality BS. 👍👍👍
Gas cars will never go away
I think they will one day. Or at least they'll become show pieces and novelties... Much like the horse and cart did once petrol became commonly available and motor cars become affordable.
Whether that happens within any of our lifetimes is the bigger question. I'm not old, and I doubt I'll see it happen.
Sounds like snake oil salespeople
Sounds like you're a low information voter. The fact you think this sounds like Snake oil shows you don't know what you're talking about.
So when your ev starts discharging unplug it quickly so you don’t pay for someone else’s fridge to run for another 8 minutes 😂😂😂
How would you know?
You can't unplug an EV until the car and the charger agree to let you. The plugs are locked in. Your smart meter is a spy.
@@SalemikTUBE it’s not for you it’s for them what if you decided to run your fridge on a battery ?
@@SalemikTUBE
You obviously don't own one. Even when locked, you press a button to unlock. Locking the plug is optional.
And even if you couldn't unplug it, circuit breakers exist, the car will disconnect the battery if you remove the 12v battery, and the car has, by law, an isolation plug somewhere, that physically disconnects the battery pack at the battery pack.
My car has no computer no gps no abs no tracking device at all. Best car I’ve ever owned
I mean ABS isn't tracking anyone... But I get your point. Modern cars are terrible for privacy... But it's not limited to electric cars. The worst offenders for privacy issues are actually manufacturers with no or limited EV sales.
@@tin2001 The Australian Bureau of Statistics certainly is.
(ha, ha, ha)
Give me a free car and free electricity I'll consider it.
So..... the owner charges his EV, in which is has to pay for.... and the power company steals it back, without compensation?
How do you drive your car after powering your home with it? What nonsense.
Their ideology must be followed regardless of any outcome.
The idea is to use the electric car as a battery to help stabilise the grid. It is an admission that renewables are incompatible with centralized power that needs stability coming out of the generation source itself.
So if the same applied to my petrol car in Canberra, next time a servo in Adelaide runs out of petrol a tanker will turn up to my house and syphon fuel out of my tank because it is needed in Adelaide.... UTTERLY INSANE!!!!
I just love when I start the 120HP diesel in my 60 foot sailing yacht.
It's why offroad experts on youtube have been flogging the benefits of the 70 series with the 2.8 litre 4 cylinder diesel.
It all makes sense, Toyota feeds them and they dutifully dance to the tune.
I'll be keeping my '09 200 series indefinitely.
2.8L? That's pretty tiny. My parents Hyundai van is almost that big. Is it a hybrid or hooked up to a ridiculously low range CVT or something? Or so they just think no one needs to haul a tractor out of the wet fields on farms anymore?
I've seen a 70 series tow a semi tipper fully loaded with dirt up an incline, and around a roundabout before. I just can't see a 2.8L engine doing stuff like that even with a crazy low gear ratio.
@@tin2001 it is proving to be a good motor. It produces the same power as the V8 in the 70 series and mated to the 6 speed auto performs much better in all modes whether unladen or towing and fuel economy is much better. Check out Ronny Dahl's channel or Car Expert for useful reviews.
The V8 is only a single turbo but even when tuned is unable to match the 4 cylinder. I think you'll find the Hyundai is not in the same ballpark as the 2.8.
Either way, the old V8 is gawn.
Major Emergency ..... BUT dont yous your EVs Just run ?????
Five times as much mining.
Range anxiety
Charging inconvenience
Fire risk
Accident emergency response hazard
Battery degradation
Higher purchase cost
High repair cost
Higher insurance costs
Higher tyre costs due to 40% heavier
What's not to like ?
Petrol motors are at the peak of development so it doesn’t surprise people like them .
There is a small minority of people who only drive once or twice a week.
These people either work from home or take public transportation to work.
On days when they know they know they know they don’t need to drive, they would love the opportunity to re-sell up to 70% of their batteries storage.
(As long as the price was higher than they paid to purchase the power).
And when they plan to go on a long drive, then can schedule the re-sell feature to be turned off for those days.
I don't even leave my fridge or my TV plugged in when the power goes out, let alone a $60,000 EV.
There is a small minority of people who only drive once or twice a week.
These people either work from home or take public transportation to work.
On days when they know they know they know they don’t need to drive, they would love the opportunity to re-sell up to 70% of their batteries storage.
(As long as the price was higher than they paid to purchase the power).
V2G is a great feature so long as the users are compensated appropriately. Pay $0.10-$0.40 per KWH to charge car, get paid $1-$3 per KWH to discharge car.
Oh my Lord, is that a good thing???
Where do the EV owners send the bill?
its because of miss management of state electrical grids like south australia is dependant on coal from other states that requires home owners to put power back into the grid, becase the state has utterly failed
So these owners paid for the power to charge them cars, did they get credit when the power they paid for went back out or did they get nothing for it?
Lol
No but it's ok to steal from them because they're communists and so don't believe in property ownership.
They're supposed to be compensated significantly because if they're not, there is zero incentive to do V2G.
I would hope so... But solar feed in rates are about 1/4 of the buy in rate. I imagine battery feed in rates are much the same.
So if you charge your EV off full rate power, then feed it back in during a blackout, you're paying a premium for someone else's lights to run.
The only place it would be a benefit is somewhere that the car is charged off solar in a guaranteed way, or if they have a deal with the energy provider to pay nothing for the car charging and get nothing back for it charging the grid.
@@tin2001but do these public chargers have the ability to give credits for when they drain the power of EVs that are plugged in during a blackout? You would hate to think you are charging your vehicle while at work or shopping g and return to your car still being charged for the power you used charging your vehicle but then finding it with less charge it had before you plugged it in or even worse having it dead flat
The detection of failure relies upon a decrease in AC frequency. This only happens with mechanical generation, ie coal or gas fired turbines slowing. Take them away on a large scale and the frequency doesn’t change as it is manufactured.
What a joke. Yep power the grid with car batteries. What utter rubbish, and if it does work, how do you drive a flat battery car.
So much for trying to charge your EV up just in case of a power outage and forgetting it's plugged in...LOLOLOLOL
Well then just line up all the EVs and Power Australia 😆😆😆
Woolies wants to be Australian again because of the Olympics 😂😂😂
Aldi
Woolies can go f themselves. Get woke go broke.
Will EV owners be eligible for a reasonable 'feed into the grid' rate when the electricity is taken from the vehicle??
Diodes prevent electricity going back to the grid.
Yeeaah.. This is also pretty much how power Works! The cars acted as 'battery banks' no different than a solar-setup.. DERP.
Everything with batteries end up in the tip
In order to put DC current through a transformer which then puts it back into the grid,you have to first change it to AC current.DC current can not 'jump' from one coil to another of a transformer.EV's are run on battery which is DC current.
Your EV battery isn’t yours though you paid for it.
Your EV battery charge isn’t yours though you paid for the electricity.
You will own nothing and be happy.
Ban EVs!
Toymota have lost the plot, Landcruiser has become too big then fit a half assed engine. V6 turbo is high tech and costs a LOT more to maintain. Though the V8 diesel was far from reliable either.And expensive to maintain Bring back decent PETROL engines. Mine is not ideal for towing with the torquless 4.7 V8. I think me 4500 petrol 6 was a better engine. Mine had 420000km on it when I moved up to the V8 petrol. I dont like diesels, dirty things! If nothing else you get filthy filling the things with fuel.
The whole idea is absolute gargage
EVs power up system?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah expecting a charged EV but the grid took it, Then add solar panels to your house costing you money as the grid can't use it so charge you money at its peak because the demand is not there as most people are at work. So unless you have battery system then some of these people are giving free EV charging so to use up the excess power.
Absolutely crazy and the details starting to come out.
V2G is an optional feature and a good one at that. I pay $0.20 per KWH to charge my car and I'm paid a $1 per KWH to discharge my car.
Has anyone ever seen a three or four trailer EV road train?
It would have a range of about 10 miles.
Nobody ever and I don’t think they sell enough of them anymore to fill a car carrier with them 😂
T.G.E has some ....they don't work.
Yes, they ride on rails.
News anchor sounds like every boomer on fb posting anti-ev memes... "Cars made from electricity" wtf
Then walked to work.😂😂
Australia's car market is a drop in the ocean for the Japanese. Surprised this capitalism 101 understanding was missed on this network.
I'm not surprised the Landcruiser was discontinued. Toyota has a number of issues at present, and the Landcruiser was probably barely profitable globally. Aside from Africa, the Middle East and Australia the Landcruiser is rarely seen. It makes more sense to pour money into the Prado and Hilux lines which are more popular, and put the savings into R&D for new ICE engine designs.
Would this be a source of huge amusement to China ??? EV's for Grid back up, quick get out & buy one...
Okay and then how do you get home 😂
Bring on the coal power and nuclear
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Lol, totally believable 🤣 hahaha 😢