I have ordered black seas this week and your painting method is the same that I was thinking in, but also watch on UA-cam people painting with the ships assembled... Painting the ship before assemble give you more control and get better details. Thank for your video, it was very demonstrative!!
Thank you! I'm coming from a model building background long before I was a wargamer. It's so much easier to paint small sub-assemblies that trying to get into those tight little spots of an assembled kit. Hope you enjoy your ship painting!!
Nice to see I am not the only one who got into the ships. Already have finished 16 Brigs, 8 Frigates, 6 SoL 3 (3 more in process) and 5 SoL 1's. Then a fleet of smaller ships. Painting was not hard, rat lines were a challenge, and sails were easy...But the rigging got Interesting. Once this bug is setteled and we can get out again looking forward to playing them. May even get a med hex map and try wooden Ships and Iron Men rules with the ships.
The full plastic kits are so much better than resin+metal for building. I'm done straightening metal bits on models just to knock one over and have it bend again.
@@chrismodelingworkbench5640 Me? I plan on using these models with a 1980's rule set called BEAT TO QUARTERS by Command Decision. Thanks for the Video, and I hope you go on to make more videos - especially of your wife playing the game as well. My wife also games, although she's never played a wargame. She is however, REAL interested in painting the Black Seas warships. She does NOT want to do the rigging however. One thing I don't like about the rigging of ships with plastic ratline sheets is - they're sheets. I am SERIOUSLY considering trying an experiment where I cut out as much of the "space" between the lines - paint the acetate so it doesn't reflect a shiny light, then mount ratlines for each of the steps of masts involved. I'm also considering an old modeler's trick of heating the plastic (carefully!) and twisting the yards on the upper parts of the mast so that instead of being perpendicular to the center of the ship, they slant a bit, as if catching a wind off the quarter. I also plan on trying out the idea of using uncooked tea bags (stealing from my wife's tea consumption a bit alas) - and using my own sails. The idea I have for the flying jib sail (and other jib sails) is to cut them in such a way as they can fold together to form the jib sail. This way, I can have the sail wrap around the stay and be better anchored. For what it is worth, I've picked up the merchant ships from Black Seas, the Schooners, as well as various fleet boxes. I plan on using some of these ship models for a rousing game of GURPS SWASHBUCKLERS where the players have their own privateer. Of course, the Spaniards will still hang their characters as pirates if they're caught... Dang, now I have to watch the movie SWASHBUCKLER again.
Did you do any priming? (I really wished that I'd watched more videos with folks painting before assembly....) edit: one small disagreement on color-choices: no ships during this period had yellow gaffs or booms for the spanker; like the yards, they were always black.
@@chrismodelingworkbench5640 Cool. Thanks. One time-saving trick when you prime is to use, e.g., Army Painter Daemonic Yellow primer on the masts for most ships, so you only have to do the yards and furled sails. You can also use this on the hulls, as the yellow on French ships is very close to the same. I haven't see a "baby vomit" (yellow ochre) primer to do the same time-saver for British ships. Oh, and if you look more carefully at the gunwales (bulwarks) of the frigate between the fore and main masts, you'll see that it was actually a pile of netting, not wood, so it really ought to be some shade of white.
This was excellent. I'm not into the game but I enjoy painting and these would be fun to paint. Why did you choose to paint them on the sprues and did you have any issues doing that?
I have ordered black seas this week and your painting method is the same that I was thinking in, but also watch on UA-cam people painting with the ships assembled... Painting the ship before assemble give you more control and get better details.
Thank for your video, it was very demonstrative!!
Thank you! I'm coming from a model building background long before I was a wargamer. It's so much easier to paint small sub-assemblies that trying to get into those tight little spots of an assembled kit. Hope you enjoy your ship painting!!
Enjoyed this video and the music. Good job.
Thank you very much!
Really bought those ships to life. Well done!
Glad you like them!
Very impressive. Great that you are so upbeat with a task that so many find daunting and omit....( esp the rigging). Great choice of music !
Thank you! To be honest I love doing the rigging on tall ships I have serval more in the stash!
Love the 1812 Overture
A collection of different vessels would make a superb 18th Century dockyard diorama.
That is a very cool idea! It could be a display for a fleet.
Nice to see I am not the only one who got into the ships. Already have finished 16 Brigs, 8 Frigates, 6 SoL 3 (3 more in process) and 5 SoL 1's. Then a fleet of smaller ships.
Painting was not hard, rat lines were a challenge, and sails were easy...But the rigging got Interesting. Once this bug is setteled and we can get out again looking forward to playing them. May even get a med hex map and try wooden Ships and Iron Men rules with the ships.
The full plastic kits are so much better than resin+metal for building. I'm done straightening metal bits on models just to knock one over and have it bend again.
I want to see a game channel from you! Bring it on!
Do you mean on game playing or miniature painting and scenery, or both?
@@chrismodelingworkbench5640 both
LOL Well thank you for the vote of confidence! I'll see what I can do!
@@chrismodelingworkbench5640 Me? I plan on using these models with a 1980's rule set called BEAT TO QUARTERS by Command Decision.
Thanks for the Video, and I hope you go on to make more videos - especially of your wife playing the game as well. My wife also games, although she's never played a wargame. She is however, REAL interested in painting the Black Seas warships. She does NOT want to do the rigging however. One thing I don't like about the rigging of ships with plastic ratline sheets is - they're sheets. I am SERIOUSLY considering trying an experiment where I cut out as much of the "space" between the lines - paint the acetate so it doesn't reflect a shiny light, then mount ratlines for each of the steps of masts involved. I'm also considering an old modeler's trick of heating the plastic (carefully!) and twisting the yards on the upper parts of the mast so that instead of being perpendicular to the center of the ship, they slant a bit, as if catching a wind off the quarter. I also plan on trying out the idea of using uncooked tea bags (stealing from my wife's tea consumption a bit alas) - and using my own sails. The idea I have for the flying jib sail (and other jib sails) is to cut them in such a way as they can fold together to form the jib sail. This way, I can have the sail wrap around the stay and be better anchored.
For what it is worth, I've picked up the merchant ships from Black Seas, the Schooners, as well as various fleet boxes. I plan on using some of these ship models for a rousing game of GURPS SWASHBUCKLERS where the players have their own privateer. Of course, the Spaniards will still hang their characters as pirates if they're caught... Dang, now I have to watch the movie SWASHBUCKLER again.
That’s sick
Thank you!
No primer before painting?
I used a primer befor painting it was just the same color as the raw plastic.
Did you do any priming?
(I really wished that I'd watched more videos with folks painting before assembly....)
edit: one small disagreement on color-choices: no ships during this period had yellow gaffs or booms for the spanker; like the yards, they were always black.
Yes I did prime, the primer was pretty much the came color as the unpainted plastic. I did not know that about the gaffs/booms. Thanks!
@@chrismodelingworkbench5640 Cool. Thanks. One time-saving trick when you prime is to use, e.g., Army Painter Daemonic Yellow primer on the masts for most ships, so you only have to do the yards and furled sails. You can also use this on the hulls, as the yellow on French ships is very close to the same. I haven't see a "baby vomit" (yellow ochre) primer to do the same time-saver for British ships.
Oh, and if you look more carefully at the gunwales (bulwarks) of the frigate between the fore and main masts, you'll see that it was actually a pile of netting, not wood, so it really ought to be some shade of white.
Nice vid..no primer?
I primed the miniatures with a gray primer... it was pretty much the same color as the original plastic.
Sadly those shots didn’t come out.
I envy his fleet.
I mean even though it's not a full ship model, it's still a fleet.
Do the ships glue together?
yes hulls are single pieces and the masts and sails are glued on.
This was excellent. I'm not into the game but I enjoy painting and these would be fun to paint. Why did you choose to paint them on the sprues and did you have any issues doing that?
Painting on the sprues just seemed easer at the time. Really didn’t have many issues with it other than fixing the posts after cutting them free.
What colors did you use for the painting? Thanks
I used Army Painter paints.
Nice! what scale to they relate to, I mean are they more like 1/350 or 1/700?
I believe the scale is 1:700