I'm happy this popped up. We never calibrated the stand in the shop i worked at years ago and i didn't realize calibration was an option. Now thati have a TS2.3 for my own use, I'll give it a check.
I just got a TS2.3 too but I don’t have any calibration tool. Did you find your TS2.3 was pretty well calibrated when you checked? I’m wondering if it’s necessary I take it to a local bike shop. Thanks!
So I've watched about 20 of your vids and now I'm a fan. The delivery of the info is fun, informative and gets to the point. Subscribed. Thx for these, you've already saved me about $200 in labor costs (but I've spent over $100 in tools and supplies 🤣) . But it's all good, it's much more satisfying doing it myself.
I made my own. The dial indicator is on a magnetic base. The dishing tool is made of instant garage tubing, shaped like an elongated U. The all thread indicator screw is fixed in a hole in the center with 2 nuts to lock in the setting. The trueing stand is nothing more than 2x2 ×3/6 angle iron with one axle hole, clamped into a gigantic vice on a table built of 1/2" steel plate. The magnetic base sticks tenaciously onto the angle iron. I was tempted to paint these Park Tools blue as a joke. For someone who builds a wheel every 2 years or so this is a luxury. Professional results from years of amateur experience, and refined tips gleaned from professionals! Your videos are more valuable than any tools ever could be. Knowledge, pass it on!
If you do not have a perfectly dished wheel for whatever reason, but one that is perfectly true, there's a workaround by flipping the wheel in the stand and making sure the caliper fingers are equidistant after flipping.
This is why you just do one side at a time and don't worry if the truing stand is perfectly aligned. It's easy to take the wheel out and flip it around.
So to calibrate and properly align the truing stand, get a perfectly dished and trued wheel. To properly dish a wheel once measured and true it, use a perfectly calibrated truing stand. That's some catch, that catch 22. Man this would be a lot easier if the brand new stand was even close to calibrated when it was delivered.
A perfectly calibrated truing stand is not at all necessary to achieve a properly *true* wheel. A *dishing gauge* is always recommended to achieve a properly *dished* wheel. We are far from the only truing stand manufacturer to hold this position. Even fancy $1800 stands recommend use of a dishing tool in their official support materials.
Good video for those with issues on truing stands, would be nice to see what pocibilites there are for TS-8 for the DIYers or are the pro level stands only ones with calibration possibility?
As the TS-8 is a single-sided stand, no centering adjustment is possible - simply flip the wheel in the stand or use a dishing gauge to verify the dish.
Hello, if without overtightening the arms, the hub is twisted causing the wheel to be twisted too in the truing stand, does it mean the truing stand is defective? Or are there tricks to align the arms by slightly rotating them?
Well, it purports to be covered but seems a very inaccurate and error prone process. Certain other brands have laser cut guides that get pushed down onto the prongs and get used to align where most important - at the tips!
@@thedownunderverse You center the uprights first. This keeps the uprights moving a consistent distance from center. Then you move to centering at the caliper fingers. We used to sell what is called the 1554-1 It was a machined piece of aluminum. It is not as easy or accurate to use as as a properly dished wheel.
I thought there was no need for caliberation or centering work, but it's complicated. If I make a truing stand with a 3D printer, will there be no need for caliberation or centering work?
You’ll be using an awful lot of filament - and yes, you’ll still need to verify that the resulting stand is centered, since it’s likely going to be made of multiple parts that will fit together with varying tolerances. Those parts will also wear and shift over time, so you would want to plan on re-checking the calibration every so often.
You’re telling me this whole time you could’ve adjusted it?! I just use another spoke wrench to hold the other side out of the way so I can true one side and then truth the other side ?
Informative video except that it talks about using the Park 1554-1 calibration tool which is no longer made or sold anywhere. Luckily I have a perfectly dished wheel to use.
Ces outils sont très bien mais hors de prix donc inaccessible à la plupart d’entre nous. Personnellement j’en ai fabriqué un qui me convient parfaitement, si’vous êtes un bon bricoleur un peu habile de ses mains alors faites le vous-même et vous obtiendrez beaucoup de satisfaction et un peu moins d’argent dépensé pour juste frimer d’avoir du matériel pro mais c’est totalement absurde!😮
I'm happy this popped up. We never calibrated the stand in the shop i worked at years ago and i didn't realize calibration was an option. Now thati have a TS2.3 for my own use, I'll give it a check.
I just got a TS2.3 too but I don’t have any calibration tool. Did you find your TS2.3 was pretty well calibrated when you checked? I’m wondering if it’s necessary I take it to a local bike shop. Thanks!
@bayleyvanderpoel5907 Mine is pretty spot on as far as I can tell. I've built 7 wheels on it and trued others and they come out great.
So I've watched about 20 of your vids and now I'm a fan. The delivery of the info is fun, informative and gets to the point. Subscribed. Thx for these, you've already saved me about $200 in labor costs (but I've spent over $100 in tools and supplies 🤣) . But it's all good, it's much more satisfying doing it myself.
I made my own. The dial indicator is on a magnetic base. The dishing tool is made of instant garage tubing, shaped like an elongated U. The all thread indicator screw is fixed in a hole in the center with 2 nuts to lock in the setting. The trueing stand is nothing more than 2x2 ×3/6 angle iron with one axle hole, clamped into a gigantic vice on a table built of 1/2" steel plate. The magnetic base sticks tenaciously onto the angle iron. I was tempted to paint these Park Tools blue as a joke. For someone who builds a wheel every 2 years or so this is a luxury. Professional results from years of amateur experience, and refined tips gleaned from professionals! Your videos are more valuable than any tools ever could be. Knowledge, pass it on!
Just got a used ts2.2 and this is super helpful!
So well explained. Thanks! Now to tackle my 2.2
If you do not have a perfectly dished wheel for whatever reason, but one that is perfectly true, there's a workaround by flipping the wheel in the stand and making sure the caliper fingers are equidistant after flipping.
This video came at a perfect time! I just recieved my TS-2.3 and I love it!
Been wondering how to do this for a while now. Thanks!
This is why you just do one side at a time and don't worry if the truing stand is perfectly aligned. It's easy to take the wheel out and flip it around.
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Could you do a video on the different types of chainrings? Like BCD and Direct Mount types etc....
That is a good idea. We will put that on the list. Should be as much fun as the BB world.
So to calibrate and properly align the truing stand, get a perfectly dished and trued wheel. To properly dish a wheel once measured and true it, use a perfectly calibrated truing stand.
That's some catch, that catch 22. Man this would be a lot easier if the brand new stand was even close to calibrated when it was delivered.
A perfectly calibrated truing stand is not at all necessary to achieve a properly *true* wheel. A *dishing gauge* is always recommended to achieve a properly *dished* wheel. We are far from the only truing stand manufacturer to hold this position. Even fancy $1800 stands recommend use of a dishing tool in their official support materials.
Good video for those with issues on truing stands, would be nice to see what pocibilites there are for TS-8 for the DIYers or are the pro level stands only ones with calibration possibility?
As the TS-8 is a single-sided stand, no centering adjustment is possible - simply flip the wheel in the stand or use a dishing gauge to verify the dish.
Hello, if without overtightening the arms, the hub is twisted causing the wheel to be twisted too in the truing stand, does it mean the truing stand is defective? Or are there tricks to align the arms by slightly rotating them?
1554-1 centering gauge is it compatible with ts 2.3?
I was just thinking about checking mine.
Cant you make a tool for centering the wheel centering tool?
Hi! Id like to buy a centering gauge but it seams it is discontinued? Or do you still make one?
What about centering the uprights?
Thats covered in this video.
Well, it purports to be covered but seems a very inaccurate and error prone process. Certain other brands have laser cut guides that get pushed down onto the prongs and get used to align where most important - at the tips!
@@thedownunderverse You center the uprights first. This keeps the uprights moving a consistent distance from center. Then you move to centering at the caliper fingers. We used to sell what is called the 1554-1 It was a machined piece of aluminum. It is not as easy or accurate to use as as a properly dished wheel.
I thought there was no need for caliberation or centering work, but it's complicated. If I make a truing stand with a 3D printer, will there be no need for caliberation or centering work?
You’ll be using an awful lot of filament - and yes, you’ll still need to verify that the resulting stand is centered, since it’s likely going to be made of multiple parts that will fit together with varying tolerances. Those parts will also wear and shift over time, so you would want to plan on re-checking the calibration every so often.
You’re telling me this whole time you could’ve adjusted it?! I just use another spoke wrench to hold the other side out of the way so I can true one side and then truth the other side ?
Informative video except that it talks about using the Park 1554-1 calibration tool which is no longer made or sold anywhere. Luckily I have a perfectly dished wheel to use.
Why is there a white sticker on the top of centering arm?
Having a clean white background allows better sighting of lateral and radial issues as the rim passes by the fingers of the truing stand.
@@parktool Cool, thanks. Does Park sell replacements?
Long Overdue.
Ces outils sont très bien mais hors de prix donc inaccessible à la plupart d’entre nous. Personnellement j’en ai fabriqué un qui me convient parfaitement, si’vous êtes un bon bricoleur un peu habile de ses mains alors faites le vous-même et vous obtiendrez beaucoup de satisfaction et un peu moins d’argent dépensé pour juste frimer d’avoir du matériel pro mais c’est totalement absurde!😮
Parktool Werkzeuge finde ich in der Regel völlig überteuert.
Para cuando videos en español,lo necesitamos, hay mucha gente de habla hispana que vemos los vídeos, pero no hablamos inglés
Puedes intentar con los subtítulos. Saludos
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man, not trying to spend $500 tho