Series connected on mains it will spin up to about 20,000 rpm with no load, which may be beyond its safe limit. I tried one shunt connected on 220v but it blew the fuse. Maybe shunt connected on 12v will give more power? You could run it from mains on DC through a rectifier, cheap as chips. Full wave for full power (although it will probably spin even faster) or half-wave for less speed, although it may growl a bit.
I've got a motor out of dyson washing machine. the two red wires are giving me AC when i spin the shaft with my hand or with DC. It can be used as a small electricity generator if you hook it up in the air with a big fan installed on the shaft end :)
the only way to make this motor run at 12v is, as you shown, with a car battery. AC to DC adapters, expecially cheap ones (generally 500mA or 1A) , have not enough current to do this....this vide seems interesting. Could you provide us a video with a hair dryer 220v motor? :-)
Hi, thanks for this. To help out the others trying this, on my motor the connections 5-10 are: green - stator_1a black - stator_2a black - stator_2b grey - rotor_a blue - rotor_b brown- stator_1b DC resistances: rotor - 150 Ohm stator_1 - 2.0 Ohm stator_2 - 0.7 Ohm I believe that putting the two stators in series gives more speed, while putting them in parallel gives more torque, though I have yet to test this. There's also a motor control unit utilizing a TDA1085C and a BTB12-600B
hah I used to do the same thing when I was a bored teen. It's a universal motor, that's why it runs on AC or DC. Good work working out how to wire it up. It's not actually designed for 240v though. it would normally be driven by some sort of chopper speed control well below 240V. That's why it spins so ridiculously fast. You can also tell by the excessive sparks jumping around the commutator, good fun, but very dangerous. Recomend against anyone else trying that if they aren't confident
I would call it a Universal Motor, because that is what my Uncle called them. Nothing new here. Most hand power tools can be wired to run on dc if they cant as they are made, all you need is a wound field and armature! Of course that means a comutator and brushes. Cheers from John.
oh, and connect the stators in series with the rotor. a parallel connection there would likely burn out the stators on 240V, or trip your breakers (not many folk have a 500A supply to their sockets =)
i try your way, but it doesn't work. in my motor there is no yellow wire. the green and brown make a one winding (1.3 Ohms), black and black another winding (0.4 Ohms), blue and white are brushes, red and red are probably tachometer
can you help me wiring this washer ac motor it has two brown i think there the speed controller. on the side of the motor it has 3 wires in order from top to bottom, white red and then black is the black neutral and red is that live what is the white one for ?? i would like to add it to a dimmer switch eventually, depending on your help. thank you
Seconded, wiring it in series you'll need to monitor the rpm and stop it running too fast, motors can explode violently otherwise. A universal motor designed for 50Hz will not, as a rule run properly from DC. The inductance of the windings at AC is used to limit the current - with DC you'll need to control the current in the stator windings properly (constant current drive? series resistor?) and limit the current to the armature if its very low resistance. Wire it as a shunt motor (limiting stator current) and see how much slower it goes due to the full magnetic field being present (more back EMF per rpm).
I have a question for you. Can you tell me how to remove the drive end bearing? How to manage with the drive end part diameter that is bigger than the bearing diameter? Is there a way to unscrew the drive end or do I have to use an extractor of bearing ?
Egwin, kort vraagje. Doe jij de kabels 1 en 6 ontmantelen en dan de kernen twisten? Voor 7 en 9 geldt natuurlijk hetzelfde. Je Engels is trouwens goed ;)
From what I know, the type of motor that can run with ac or dc is "universal motor". It's the type of motor that comes in most hand tools, like drills.
did you put any magnets inside, if not can you put magnets for it to generate electricity. im from Croatia and im doing a project with a washing machine motor.
heej i've got a very simular engine : MCA52/64 - 148/IRN2 LINE A8 480W 220/240 V etc the colors of wiring arent intirely the same though. got the following 1 red 2 red 3 white 4 blue 5 black 6 gray 7 yellow any suggestions ?
hello im wanting to build a electric powered bike using the same motor. would it work ? and what parts will i need? i want a throttle so i can adjust my speed thanks
+AR Gaming It could work, but it is not the best motor for that application since it is so heavy and needs high voltage for torque. You can make it work by using capacitors to get more voltage from a battery or using a lot of small batteries in series to make higher voltage. Also, you can use a flywheel and gearing system so it can spool up the flywheel then you can engage it and use it for a boost. You could have a screw drive for an ultra low gear for going up-hill slowly.
hello, my name is bello. i have an old motor that run on 220VAC and 12VDC, which i got from a washing machine. but unforetunately, there was no name plate on mine. could you please help me with the motor specifications? i want to drive the motor with a mosfet. Thanks
I've got a question about go kart...Can i use motor like this one for go kart? I mean,would it have enough of torque moment to move 150 kg? And how fast could it go with that amount of weight?
+Osumo Ben Lodan A little bit is fine yes, but it shouldn't arcing completely around from one brush to another. You just wire each brush in series with the appropriate winding to limit current.
John Lannigan Thank you for your response. So I agree with you, this engine needs at least 110 volts, so he had the power to bike. I still consider a variant of a motor drive windshield wiper Mercedes Atego. It interested me that that - there is a reduction to lower speed.
please can you help me with my motor? i have similar engine with these charac.: AEG U 112 G 63 NA 0B0 299 515 #4 220/240 V 50 Hz AC-EL. Iskl.B motor has connection box with 8 wires: red red black green blue white black brown. the blue one and white one are from brushes. i try it connect on 220 V but with any success. so please, can you tell me how should i connect these wires that my motor spin on right side with full speed thank you
you are really wonderful its what i am looking for.....i have question for you Dear, can i use this motor as a generator? ....or have you tried it to produce electricity from it?
why would you want to make a generator from it? youll be losing energy as heat and sound before it even gets to the generator. you cant generate more electricity from electricity, in this case the electricity is energy, and as you should know you cannot create or destroy energy. dumbest question i have seen in a long time.
actually not a dumb question. because there is no permanent magnets it will generate a higher amperage and cause less drag when under an electrical load.. they call them alternators like in a car. vs a generator motor with permanent magnets. like in a VW beatle...
Hoi, Ik spreek toevallig ook nederlands :) Video is inmiddels een beetje oud maar ik was benieuwd waar jij het potmetertje op hebt aangesloten? En wat voor potmetertje het is, kon jij het toerental aansturen of alleen de voltage? Groet! T
hallo, je reactie is ondertussen ook al best wel oud, helaas. dat weet ik niet direct, maar ik denk gewoon in serie met de voeding van de moter. mvg, egwin
I think you should move the gas can away from the wall outlet before you do anything else. Then tell us WHY you did this. What "work" do you wish to do with this MOTOR. An engine and a motor are two entirely different things. Good Luck.
hi, i have also a motor i am trying to get going 1&2 =red 3=black 4=brown 5=blue 6=white could be grey 7= yellow could anyone tell me how these might go
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That stunt with the belt could've cost you your hand ;))
Those motors usually have a tacho-generator built in. The tacho is a small generator which "tells" the control electronics how fast the motor is turning. If the motor is used without its control electronics and tacho it will over-speed and damage may occur. Large motors that lose their tacho signal are liable to burst themselves apart and the flying pieces can kill. Many years ago I had to sort out a Thorn Stardrive which had been messed with by fools (they had been running the machine in reverse and they had fitted an ELECTROLYTIC capacitor across the tacho-generator to get rid of commutator ripple) The following week when the machine was run in forwards the ammeter slammed hard onto its end stop and the revs began to soar. It was a case of hitting the panic button and having a heart attack later! (joke) "It ramps up! It ramps up!" said the machine operator. I later converted the Stardrive from single speed to three speed and this was a good move as it stopped people going inside and frigging with all the presets. It was a great machine that was used for examining oil flows in gearboxes. Perspex windows would be fitted and it was possible to observe the oil jets. At different speeds the oil jets would jump or switch as if moved by an unseen hand. This revealed a problem with a very troublesome five speed gearbox as at the equivalent of 80 mph an oil jet would switch and starve one of the ball-races of oil. All it needed was a blob of a couple of grams of metal to catch the switched oil jet and divert the oil into the ball-race. The expensive gear shavers that were bought from Italy were not the solution, duh!
12volt are too little for such a beast motor! with 12 volt you managed to stop it turning with a bare hand but what would happen if you try to stop it when it roars wildly on 220 volts? easy to answer, it will cut your hands from its root!
A series wound motor running with no load is very dangerous. It can reach very high speed very quickly and potentially damage the bearings. If the bearings do seize...where does all that kinetic energy go? If it stays together long enough its rotational speed continues to increase until centrifugal force has its way with it. You don't want to be in the same room when that happens. Be a lot more careful than this young man was.
I don't think so he ever said using the motor with dc will run the machine. but still you can always duplicate the voltage of tthat little battery and pull a little more power and be usufull for your OPEN IMAGINATION SHALOM
Doesn't seem powerful with just 12V, i'm looking to make a can crusher with an old spin dryer motor. When you slowed it with the rubber belt I feared for you, if that had got wrapped round the spindle and your hand, well I dread to think of the out come, be careful.
wow...very dangerous line voltage setup! *says the idiot who has a 400 v ~1000µF cap bank that he constantly expands and that is not quite well insulated*
Amazing! Gr. From Assen
what do you think bro? can we put that in a bicycle? and drive it with battery? a car battery?
Series connected on mains it will spin up to about 20,000 rpm with no load, which may be beyond its safe limit. I tried one shunt connected on 220v but it blew the fuse. Maybe shunt connected on 12v will give more power? You could run it from mains on DC through a rectifier, cheap as chips. Full wave for full power (although it will probably spin even faster) or half-wave for less speed, although it may growl a bit.
I've got a motor out of dyson washing machine. the two red wires are giving me AC when i spin the shaft with my hand or with DC. It can be used as a small electricity generator if you hook it up in the air with a big fan installed on the shaft end :)
the only way to make this motor run at 12v is, as you shown, with a car battery. AC to DC adapters, expecially cheap ones (generally 500mA or 1A) , have not enough current to do this....this vide seems interesting. Could you provide us a video with a hair dryer 220v motor? :-)
Hi, thanks for this.
To help out the others trying this, on my motor the connections 5-10 are:
green - stator_1a
black - stator_2a
black - stator_2b
grey - rotor_a
blue - rotor_b
brown- stator_1b
DC resistances:
rotor - 150 Ohm
stator_1 - 2.0 Ohm
stator_2 - 0.7 Ohm
I believe that putting the two stators in series gives more speed, while putting them in parallel gives more torque, though I have yet to test this. There's also a motor control unit utilizing a TDA1085C and a BTB12-600B
what do you think bro? can we out that in a bicycle? and drive it with battery? a car battery?
I live in Germany.
I have exactly the same engine. It delivers approximately within 450-500W.
:)
yes it run the motor but no more power,how it can run a machine?you can stop it only by your hands?how about if theres is load?
hah I used to do the same thing when I was a bored teen. It's a universal motor, that's why it runs on AC or DC. Good work working out how to wire it up.
It's not actually designed for 240v though. it would normally be driven by some sort of chopper speed control well below 240V. That's why it spins so ridiculously fast. You can also tell by the excessive sparks jumping around the commutator, good fun, but very dangerous. Recomend against anyone else trying that if they aren't confident
what the difference between brush and brushless?
I would call it a Universal Motor, because that is what my Uncle called them. Nothing new here. Most hand power tools can be wired to run on dc if they cant as they are made, all you need is a wound field and armature! Of course that means a comutator and brushes. Cheers from John.
oh, and connect the stators in series with the rotor.
a parallel connection there would likely burn out the stators on 240V, or trip your breakers (not many folk have a 500A supply to their sockets =)
how does it work both ways alternating current and dc current?
How much power were you getting out of the motor when you ran it on 12V DC?
i try your way, but it doesn't work. in my motor there is no yellow wire. the green and brown make a one winding (1.3 Ohms), black and black another winding (0.4 Ohms), blue and white are brushes, red and red are probably tachometer
can you help me wiring this washer ac motor it has two brown i think there the speed controller. on the side of the motor it has 3 wires in order from top to bottom, white red and then black is the black neutral and red is that live what is the white one for ?? i would like to add it to a dimmer switch eventually, depending on your help. thank you
Seconded, wiring it in series you'll need to monitor
the rpm and stop it running too fast, motors can explode
violently otherwise.
A universal motor designed for 50Hz will not, as a rule run
properly from DC. The inductance of the windings at AC is used to limit the current - with DC you'll need to control the current in the stator windings properly (constant current drive? series resistor?) and limit the current to the armature if its very low resistance.
Wire it as a shunt motor (limiting stator current) and see how much slower it goes due to the full magnetic field being
present (more back EMF per rpm).
which wires do use use for 12volt to connect it to battery
I have a question for you.
Can you tell me how to remove the drive end bearing? How to manage with the drive end part diameter that is bigger than the bearing diameter? Is there a way to unscrew the drive end or do I have to use an extractor of bearing ?
Egwin, kort vraagje. Doe jij de kabels 1 en 6 ontmantelen en dan de kernen twisten? Voor 7 en 9 geldt natuurlijk hetzelfde. Je Engels is trouwens goed ;)
From what I know, the type of motor that can run with ac or dc is "universal motor". It's the type of motor that comes in most hand tools, like drills.
did you put any magnets inside, if not can you put magnets for it to generate electricity. im from Croatia and im doing a project with a washing machine motor.
at high rpm what could you use this motor for?
heey ik heb een Motor Type mrt36 - 606-2 uit een miele wasmashine gesloopt moet iki die op dezelfde manier aan proberen te sluiten?
Can the moto also charge the battery y working
heej i've got a very simular engine :
MCA52/64 - 148/IRN2
LINE A8
480W 220/240 V etc
the colors of wiring arent intirely the same though.
got the following
1 red
2 red
3 white
4 blue
5 black
6 gray
7 yellow
any suggestions ?
Can i use batterie 48v , sera fort ?
uses bare fingers, must be a ninja.
Stator winding between pins 1 and 5: 2.1 ohm
Stator winding between pins 5 and 10: 0.9 ohm
Rotor winding between pins 8 and 9: 2.0 ohm
hello im wanting to build a electric powered bike using the same motor. would it work ? and what parts will i need? i want a throttle so i can adjust my speed thanks
+AR Gaming It could work, but it is not the best motor for that application since it is so heavy and needs high voltage for torque. You can make it work by using capacitors to get more voltage from a battery or using a lot of small batteries in series to make higher voltage. Also, you can use a flywheel and gearing system so it can spool up the flywheel then you can engage it and use it for a boost. You could have a screw drive for an ultra low gear for going up-hill slowly.
how would you wire an electric throttle on there as i have the same idea
A cheap way would be using a pwm
Super video brother. (Thanks)
Why
What are you using to speed up and slow down the motor ?
He is simply using a different anount of potential difference (voltage). Higher voltages give a higher RPM.
Okay I get that, It just looked like he had some sort of switch connected at .37 seconds. Thanks.
+bmxspidy he mentioned he was using a pedal from a quiltmachine.
will it run on DC supply n how ?
can u please tell me if i can convert it to a generator?
I don´t understand it, this motor can work with both current AC and DC why?
hello, my name is bello. i have an old motor that run on 220VAC and 12VDC, which i got from a washing machine. but unforetunately, there was no name plate on mine. could you please help me with the motor specifications?
i want to drive the motor with a mosfet. Thanks
i have a u112g40 is that the same as yours
I've got a question about go kart...Can i use motor like this one for go kart? I mean,would it have enough of torque moment to move 150 kg? And how fast could it go with that amount of weight?
that depends on the voltage you're working with
+MelonBullet 12 volt has almost no torque. I can stop it with my hand.
+Damir Slonjšak Y'all never seen the little rascals? lol
fd
throw 120vdc at it lol just make sure you have something to cool the motor, controller and batteries and your golden that thing would HAUL ASS
Is that a gasoline container on bench...next to AC outlet? Boom!
You're suppose to run power to the brushes through the windings, to limit the current, hence why you're getting arcing around the commutator.
Is a little bit arcing from the brushes ok then? If not, could you explain to wire it through the windings?
Thanks.
+Osumo Ben Lodan A little bit is fine yes, but it shouldn't arcing completely around from one brush to another. You just wire each brush in series with the appropriate winding to limit current.
+KrayzieDude Thanks for your comment. It Isn't arcing all the way around. Only arcs that are approx 1mm in lenght from the brush.
+KrayzieDude But is spinning way out of range. It is an 1800RPM motor, but it spins at way over 10.000.
thats also another reason why it needs to have the current to the brushes limited , universal motors can runaway under no load conditions
Can this engine be connected to 12 volts, so he retained his power? (I want to make electric bike) Thanks!
Yes, read the description. Though it is very slow with 12volts.
On 12 volts there would be ZERO power for an electric bike, you would need a much higher voltage.
John Lannigan Thank you for your response. So I agree with you, this engine needs at least 110 volts, so he had the power to bike. I still consider a variant of a motor drive windshield wiper Mercedes Atego. It interested me that that - there is a reduction to lower speed.
I want to make an electric bike too. Could you possibly make a tut or just tell me on how to connect it to a DC 12v battery?
Thanks!
the motor realy run in 12v?
That looks just like the variable speed motor i yanked out of a junk washer.
please can you help me with my motor? i have similar engine with these charac.:
AEG U 112 G 63 NA
0B0 299 515 #4
220/240 V 50 Hz
AC-EL. Iskl.B
motor has connection box with 8 wires: red red black green blue white black brown.
the blue one and white one are from brushes. i try it connect on 220 V but with any success. so please, can you tell me how should i connect these wires that my motor spin on right side with full speed thank you
A little bit dangerous especially for long hairs, but interresting alternating current and direct current ...
So what is the rpms
when it's running or not?
Try running it off 12 9v cells in series . If you pulsed it it may work longer.
you are really wonderful its what i am looking for.....i have question for you Dear, can i use this motor as a generator? ....or have you tried it to produce electricity from it?
why would you want to make a generator from it? youll be losing energy as heat and sound before it even gets to the generator. you cant generate more electricity from electricity, in this case the electricity is energy, and as you should know you cannot create or destroy energy. dumbest question i have seen in a long time.
actually not a dumb question. because there is no permanent magnets it will generate a higher amperage and cause less drag when under an electrical load.. they call them alternators like in a car. vs a generator motor with permanent magnets. like in a VW beatle...
Hoi,
Ik spreek toevallig ook nederlands :)
Video is inmiddels een beetje oud maar ik was benieuwd waar jij het potmetertje op hebt aangesloten? En wat voor potmetertje het is, kon jij het toerental aansturen of alleen de voltage?
Groet!
T
hallo,
je reactie is ondertussen ook al best wel oud, helaas.
dat weet ik niet direct, maar ik denk gewoon in serie met de voeding van de moter.
mvg, egwin
Can I do with ebike ?
zou ik hier een skelter as mee laaten draaien
É motor de que ?
I think you should move the gas can away from the wall outlet before you do anything else. Then tell us WHY you did this. What "work" do you wish to do with this MOTOR. An engine and a motor are two entirely different things. Good Luck.
hi, i have also a motor i am trying to get going 1&2 =red 3=black 4=brown 5=blue 6=white could be grey 7= yellow could anyone tell me how these might go
That stunt with the belt could've cost you your hand ;))
you should of played AC/DC music in the backround! thumbs up this comment if you agree.
Is this a troll, because I came here to hear some ROCK.
Thank you for this neat information!
Those motors usually have a tacho-generator built in. The tacho is a small generator which "tells" the control electronics how fast the motor is turning. If the motor is used without its control electronics and tacho it will over-speed and damage may occur. Large motors that lose their tacho signal are liable to burst themselves apart and the flying pieces can kill. Many years ago I had to sort out a Thorn Stardrive which had been messed with by fools (they had been running the machine in reverse and they had fitted an ELECTROLYTIC capacitor across the tacho-generator to get rid of commutator ripple) The following week when the machine was run in forwards the ammeter slammed hard onto its end stop and the revs began to soar. It was a case of hitting the panic button and having a heart attack later! (joke) "It ramps up! It ramps up!" said the machine operator. I later converted the Stardrive from single speed to three speed and this was a good move as it stopped people going inside and frigging with all the presets. It was a great machine that was used for examining oil flows in gearboxes. Perspex windows would be fitted and it was possible to observe the oil jets. At different speeds the oil jets would jump or switch as if moved by an unseen hand. This revealed a problem with a very troublesome five speed gearbox as at the equivalent of 80 mph an oil jet would switch and starve one of the ball-races of oil. All it needed was a blob of a couple of grams of metal to catch the switched oil jet and divert the oil into the ball-race. The expensive gear shavers that were bought from Italy were not the solution, duh!
12volt are too little for such a beast motor! with 12 volt you managed to stop it turning with a bare hand but what would happen if you try to stop it when it roars wildly on 220 volts? easy to answer, it will cut your hands from its root!
Alexandros Sotiropoulos it wont cut your hands because there is nothing sharp on it, but he will probably get a bad slide burn. ewwwwww gross
sound like a starting/stop Jet Engine ;)
A series wound motor running with no load is very dangerous.
It can reach very high speed very quickly and potentially damage the bearings.
If the bearings do seize...where does all that kinetic energy go?
If it stays together long enough its rotational speed continues to increase until centrifugal force has its way with it.
You don't want to be in the same room when that happens.
Be a lot more careful than this young man was.
could get a 3 phase speed controller. have it wired up with a 36v battery much faster.
I don't think so he ever said using the motor with dc will run the machine.
but still you can always duplicate the voltage of tthat little battery and pull a little more power and be usufull for your OPEN IMAGINATION
SHALOM
shouldnt run it like that, it needs to be under load or your rpm is way to high...u could hear the bearing damage on the vid!
Explique con esquemático no está bien claro me pregunto¿ las escobillas están en serie con unas de las líneas?✏✒🖋📂📂
Dam! that thing can spin!
mine only has 7 wires pls can you help its a Nidec WU126T50E00
pls can u help asap thank you
Not enough with this: The plastic-plug is broken... holy sh..!!!
revvs like a potential boeing 747 engine replacement
Doesn't seem powerful with just 12V, i'm looking to make a can crusher with an old spin dryer motor. When you slowed it with the rubber belt I feared for you, if that had got wrapped round the spindle and your hand, well I dread to think of the out come, be careful.
that 240 would make a bicycle scoot along {until you ran out of cord}
in the description of my video you can see how i wired the motor. you can try it the way i did. if that doesn't work, you can ask me again. good luck.
nice and safe i see
Why not like a machine in the car, a motor larger to remove it cheap ;
Don't use electricity and sparks near gasoline
waste of time if you dont explain the wiring
That’s extremely dangerous to a motor will fly like a jet
came here expecting to see a washing machine playing AC/DC, left disappointed.
voodid learn to read bud
+Alexander Hayden r/woooosh
This place looks like Saw-II
in the description of the video you can see how i hooked it up.
give a warning to loud volumes
مساء الخير اخي في مجال تشرحالي على الشرطان
good but no tork !!!
Hi
Shematic foto
thank you very much
Waw...ky pesawat suaranya
Great
1:48 trust me im engineer!
wow...very dangerous line voltage setup! *says the idiot who has a 400 v ~1000µF cap bank that he constantly expands and that is not quite well insulated*
1:20 Ouch :|
Cool. Subscribed
i already did this before
thats not the right way.
Electric motor not engine.Engine implies it runs on gas.
senin motor bozuk . çok fazla kıvılcım yapmak ( AC . DC )
whooooooooooo