Macross News - Macrosss and Robotech finally reach a deal!

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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2021
  • The legal battle between Harmony Gold and Big West is over with the joint statement issued today.
    00:00 Intro
    00:46 Macross vs Robotech Dispute
    02:52 The Deal
    05:02 The future of Macross
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  • @weregarurumon3202
    @weregarurumon3202 3 роки тому +160

    Oh no Imagine a VF-1 as DLC for AC7.

  • @ColonelFrontline1152
    @ColonelFrontline1152 3 роки тому +242

    HELL YEAH, FINALLY WE GET TO PLAY THE MACROSS VIDEO GAMES THAT WAS NEVER RELEASED INTERNATIONALLY. AND WE CAN FINALLY GET ACTUAL ENGLISH DUBS OF THE ENTIRE MACROSS FRANCHISE.

    • @Iffy350
      @Iffy350 3 роки тому +20

      How though? It’s a little late to dust off my PS2

    • @ericaugusto4296
      @ericaugusto4296 3 роки тому +18

      @@Iffy350 an emulator maybe. But The games are so old they wouldn't make them today. Best option make new ones for the PS5 and XBOX

    • @mr.c.tuganomics
      @mr.c.tuganomics 3 роки тому +10

      Is this Good or Bad? I want games and MACROSS. Robotech... I Iike Robotech, but both are not the same and personaly, I don't want an American amalgam... Again. New Robotech univers sound cool.

    • @Awsomemobs2000Theminecraftdude
      @Awsomemobs2000Theminecraftdude 3 роки тому +5

      @@Iffy350 Probably ports to the PC and new consoles.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 3 роки тому +6

      Hope for Switch ports.

  • @kellinwinslow1988
    @kellinwinslow1988 3 роки тому +61

    I wish Harmony Gold wasn't still involved with Macross. The company is so shady and I'm amazed they aren't out of business by now. I have the entire Macross series on Blu Ray with subtitles so I don't care about this but I hope that people will finally see some of the good stuff like Macross Plus and the 84' movie.

    • @Elios0000
      @Elios0000 3 роки тому +4

      this i do not trust HG at all

    • @mammothmk3355
      @mammothmk3355 3 роки тому +8

      From Wikipedia:
      In addition to its distribution and production interests, *Harmony Gold manages several real estate properties in the Southern California area. They also operate a screening room in Los Angeles.*
      There is your answer. ;)

    • @urbypilot2136
      @urbypilot2136 3 роки тому +3

      While HG and it's chariman Frank Agrama have been historically been a-holes of the highest caliber, this change in direction regarding their stance about "ownership" of the rights to Macross characters can be treated as as good sign. Heck, maybe they'll eventually let up on the Battletech franchise as well, seeing as they've lost that legal issue so many times already.

    • @HatsuneM1ku01
      @HatsuneM1ku01 3 роки тому +6

      The only reason they still exist is because they failed at everything else so they became a reality company. A reality company owns the rights to japans second biggest anime next to gundam

    • @kellinwinslow1988
      @kellinwinslow1988 3 роки тому

      @@Elios0000 I agree. That's what worries me.

  • @DonVigaDeFierro
    @DonVigaDeFierro 3 роки тому +272

    It's never not time to say that Harmony Gold can burn in hell.

    • @PrimeStarStudios
      @PrimeStarStudios 3 роки тому +9

      So true!

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 3 роки тому +12

      Someone potentially worse than 4kids, a scary thought.

    • @reptomicus
      @reptomicus 3 роки тому +17

      Everytime a weeboo posts hate toward Harmony Gold, their Macross rights extend another 30 years.

    • @Aliexster
      @Aliexster 3 роки тому +5

      I'm just waiting to see if this will keep Battletech from getting sued again, which sounds a bit iffy there.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 роки тому +22

      To be fair ROBOTECH is actually pretty good. It’s the company that SUCKS. Also I really like the Palladium Books RPG which adds a ton of really interesting EU. The real issue is the stupid Cold War stand off that stops us from having both.

  • @brainblessed5814
    @brainblessed5814 3 роки тому +20

    This legal battle was more intense than all macross and robotech battles combined.

  • @Axaul
    @Axaul 3 роки тому +100

    Robotech is ostensibly to Macross what Power Rangers is to Super Sentai. We were lucky that Macross Plus slipped through into the west with an english dub, not to mention the out of print ADV dub of the original Macross series to reflect the original context released in the mid-2000s.

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 3 роки тому +17

      Dubs of Macross Do You remember Love? (via Omni Productions) and Macross II (via U.S. Renditions) were also available in the 90s.

    • @deshawn4077
      @deshawn4077 3 роки тому +4

      Robotech was good

    • @robertrios6613
      @robertrios6613 3 роки тому +5

      There's already precedent that both the Japanese source material and their westernized versions can both be successful. Those precedents being Power Rangers/Super Sentai and Kamen Rider Ryuki/Dragon Knight. I don't see any reason Macross and Robotech can't do the same now that Big West and Harmony Gold have sorted out their issues.

    • @Elios0000
      @Elios0000 3 роки тому +2

      @@deshawn4077 no no it wasnt in any way. was it better then US stuff for its time sure but no it ever good

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 3 роки тому +8

      @@deshawn4077 I loved watching Robotech in the 80s as there was nothing better on TV. Immediately fell out of love with it in the 90s when I watched fansubs of the original SDF Macross and parts of SDC Southern Cross and saw how horrifically butchered it was.

  • @rzero21
    @rzero21 3 роки тому +38

    I hope Big West picks another distributor for Macross-specific stuff overseas.
    While I don't mind Harmony Gold having their rights over Robotech, I don't like the idea of them getting away with all of this after doing so much damage in all these years...

    • @UToobUsername01
      @UToobUsername01 3 роки тому +1

      Does this news mean we can finally get the damn bandai chogokin toys in the west instead of buying imported ones?

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому +1

      @@UToobUsername01 as long as it isnt SDF. Anything other than that is good to go. SDF? Yeah Harmony Gold still has the say on that.

  • @justchyll2009
    @justchyll2009 3 роки тому +170

    I feel I'm one of the few people who genuinely loves both Robotech and Macross

    • @soraisfinallyhere1305
      @soraisfinallyhere1305 3 роки тому +14

      I do as well

    • @dickiedavies6870
      @dickiedavies6870 3 роки тому +7

      I also love them both

    • @Gridseeker
      @Gridseeker 3 роки тому +7

      I also love both franchises.

    • @davida.midence6012
      @davida.midence6012 3 роки тому +4

      I too like both

    • @LeonardoLopez-qq4tx
      @LeonardoLopez-qq4tx 3 роки тому +6

      Robotech does have a long overarching story that spans 3 different anime. And ine of those anime is mospeada which is cool but macross has a better story and mech designs but I still love both of them equally

  • @johnn1250
    @johnn1250 3 роки тому +40

    Project Aces making a Macross game would be the only logical conclusion.
    The main difference between the arcady AC series and Macross is the transforming fighter jets into robots in Macross.

    • @nathanjones6638
      @nathanjones6638 3 роки тому +3

      I think that a Macros s game would be the perfect time to reinvent Ave Combat Assault Horizon's gameplay.
      Consider: while the game itself was underwhelming, it featured helicopter gameplay that could easily be translated into the Gerwalk mode, and the quicktime evasions could be the prompt for transforming between modes.
      The only thing you would need to add is a first person shooter element.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      @@nathanjones6638 The helicopter gameplay is actually where i checked out with Assault Horizon. I hated those missions for some reason. I didnt mind the other stuff

    • @nathanjones6638
      @nathanjones6638 3 роки тому

      @@budgiecat2885 I agree, but it's the coding specifically I am referring to. That, and it would be the cheapest way to get an immersive Macross experience.

    • @mr.coffeeguy2853
      @mr.coffeeguy2853 3 роки тому

      Good, Lord, that sounds like an absolute delight.

    • @RageDuck0
      @RageDuck0 3 роки тому

      Take the mech combat Form titan fall 2 and the flying of ace combat and go between the two combat form's and make the in-between form just something you can do

  • @marcossonicracer
    @marcossonicracer 3 роки тому +125

    "they were available only in Japan because of Borders and copyrights"
    Pixy does not approve
    on the other hand... i'll finally get to hear legally the DVD shows of Sheryl and Ranka in full 4K Glory XD

    • @MrAsh1100
      @MrAsh1100 3 роки тому +5

      That's what V2 is for!

    • @contentstarved991
      @contentstarved991 3 роки тому +2

      Borders saved Macross in Japan from Harmony Gold’s tentacles.

    • @marcossonicracer
      @marcossonicracer 3 роки тому +2

      @@contentstarved991 it's like i always say... if you gonna lauch something globally, you gotta do it yourself, or others will butcher your work. i think the problem is HG trying to pull a Saban, and not Borders itself.

    • @davidgiles4681
      @davidgiles4681 3 роки тому +2

      They were only available in Japan because Japan has a far less prude version of Nudity. In one American scene Min Mei and Rick are trapped and "playing house". Min Mei is showering (the American version blanked this out). In the Japanese version, Min Mei is seen naked and clearly naked.
      In Southern Cross Dana Sterling (daughter of Myriad and Max Sterling) is taking a shower. The scene is very clear that she is naked and the scene is giving you the full view.
      American censorship would not allow this. You must get the Japanese version.

    • @Boonedale
      @Boonedale 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidgiles4681 AFAIK that is from Macross: Do You Remember Love (Or Macross: DYRL for short). That entire movie is thought more of as being not part of the anime series AFAIK. But yea, that's "tame" compared to the other scenes in the movie that were cut out.

  • @MyHandle4455
    @MyHandle4455 3 роки тому +41

    They should have ditched harmony gold and found a new partner

    • @saysoun752
      @saysoun752 3 роки тому +7

      Harmony Gold should only had to rights to the original Macross as that's the agreement they signed. Future endeavors are just that, future and could be licensed to anybody. There's plenty of animes where one season is licensed to one company and another is to a different company. How Harmony Gold managed to say they own the rights to the entire Macross universe is beyond me.

    • @noneofyourbusiness4616
      @noneofyourbusiness4616 3 роки тому

      They couldn't. They had a signed contract with Harmony Gold, and Robotech is the only thing that makes Harmony Gold money, so they're never going to let that contract end.

    • @saysoun752
      @saysoun752 3 роки тому +2

      @@noneofyourbusiness4616 The signed contract was only for Macross and only Macross. That's why Manga got the rights to Macross Plus and Macross II. Then Harmony Gold came up with the idea that they owned the rights to the entire Macross universe. Series such as Neon Genesis Evangelion, Slayers and Ikki Tousen prove that multiple companies can own the rights to a series as ADV had the rights to Eva TV series and Manga had the rights to the movies, now it's Funimation with the newer movies and Discotek with the TV series but streaming rights belong to Netflix. Slayers was owned by Funimation and ADV and Ikki Tousen is owned by Funimation for seasons 1, 3 and 4 while Anime Works owns season 2. I still have no idea why and how they managed to say the contract they signed was for the entire Macross universe.

  • @johndoe62804
    @johndoe62804 3 роки тому +28

    The world was once again at peace. And thanks to them, it seemed it would last forever.

  • @drewlovelyhell4892
    @drewlovelyhell4892 3 роки тому +20

    This sounds like a truce, not a win. Harmony Gold is still involved, which means they will compromise eveything.
    The anime is all available online anyway. I just want the merchandise (Bandai DX Chogokin, Hi-Metal-R) to be released outside of Japan.

    • @kharnthebetrayer1575
      @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 роки тому

      Battletech straight up won the suit against them. And have figures that again resemble their old designs.

  • @prickayeey8420
    @prickayeey8420 3 роки тому +13

    If the world cant get weirder post pandemic, i am glad to hear this. These days anything is possible

  • @ArnoldTriyudho
    @ArnoldTriyudho 3 роки тому +39

    GIRI GIRI AI INTENSIFIES..
    And it's deculture time.. (F for the Macross fans who are unable to hear this news)

  • @NozomuYume
    @NozomuYume 3 роки тому +14

    To be fair Harmony Gold didn't have much of a choice in terms of making Robotech. The American syndication market at the time only allowed shows to be sold in packages of at least 65 episodes (one 13-week season, 5 weekdays per week). They could not have sold Macross as-is. They could conceivably have tried to sell all three shows untouched as a three-show package, but that was a harder sell to TV executives who normally looked at buys on a show-by-show basis. This is the same reason Voltron combined two unrelated shows. There are other examples (like Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years, with its incomprehensible plot that makes Robotech look like a faithful adaptation in comparison)

  • @alyashaxo
    @alyashaxo 3 роки тому +14

    For a while here in the US a few years ago by some feat of magic you were able to watch the original SDF Macross subbed on Amazon Prime Video. This makes me wonder if since Harmony Gold is still gonna have a disruption say, here in the US & Canada the platform may end up being Amazon which has been acquiring a fair bit of anime for a while now. I cannot be happier a deal was reached though, Macross is by far my favorite franchise over any medium.

    • @Friendlygiant666
      @Friendlygiant666 3 роки тому

      It was my first taste of anime and will always have that special place in my heart.

  • @Imperialistic82
    @Imperialistic82 3 роки тому +17

    This is great news indeed! I have to admit, it was through Robotech I got exposure to Macross. I never finished the second and third part of Robotech, but I watched both SDFM and Robotech season 1. I prefer SDFM of course. But I see Robotech can have a potential great IP if Sony decides to go continuing working with the live-adaptation. But maybe not call it Robotech nor Macross, because of confusion mainstream audience will get. Reimagine it with new names for the characters and a title. But use the core story of SDFM. Giant transformable jets to mechs fighting giant humanoid aliens, and a touch of strong love story with singing. Transformers and kaiju movies proves there is a audience out there for Macross.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      I ended up just binge watching Genesis Climber Mospeada in its original Japanese form. I think even Harmony Gold provided that.
      Super Dimensional Southern Cross though I dont think I ever finished that. That anime had a lot of development problems in Japan

    • @Imperialistic82
      @Imperialistic82 3 роки тому +2

      @@budgiecat2885 I'm in the minority but I did enjoyed Southern Cross a lot. Liked the Bioroid designs. Mospeada was a fun watch, but I didn't like how they concluded the show.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      @@Imperialistic82 Im not saying I hated it I just know of its sorted and shaky past

    • @bennyzweite6692
      @bennyzweite6692 Рік тому

      .. as far as i know, in this case, transforming fighter jet (into Gerwalk and humaoind Battroid) is belong to Big West' trademark, not Harmony Gold.. (for Harmony Gold) making live action movie based on this mecha (Valkyrie) won't as easy as just take it for free based on claims.. HGold don't own the IP, designs, etc. They just own the distribution right (outside of Japan) ..

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r 3 роки тому +20

    So this could mean I'll probably be able to catch up with the whole franchise in Germany? Sounds sweet.

    • @bumbayker
      @bumbayker 3 роки тому +1

      You can watch them all. Just not legally if you get my drift.

  • @edrap4661
    @edrap4661 3 роки тому +69

    Bandai: Project Aces, From software. Get all the coffee you want and make a Macross Game!!. Ace combat Style for fighter and armored core style for battroid and gerwalk!..
    Project Aces: hold up ... But what about the ..
    From Software: Time to make see AC4 physics

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro 3 роки тому +8

      I actually like Macross VF-X2. The gameplay shows its age, but it's a solid foundation for a Macross game.

    • @edrap4661
      @edrap4661 3 роки тому +2

      @@DonVigaDeFierro Ysck Deculture.

    • @Tetsujinhanmaa
      @Tetsujinhanmaa 3 роки тому +2

      @@DonVigaDeFierro I just flashed back to 16 year old my seeing the trailer for VF-X2 and trying to get it for years.

    • @cannedtunasam7766
      @cannedtunasam7766 3 роки тому +2

      @@DonVigaDeFierro same! One of my childhood games along side metal gear solid, dino crisis series, and steel reign

    • @TheRedneckGamer1979
      @TheRedneckGamer1979 3 роки тому +3

      HG also lost a long standing lawsuit against Catalyst game labs which brought the hidden mechs back to battletech.
      I Now REGULARLY rock a Marauder, Marauder II C (thats the Clan variant), a Locust, a Thunderbolt, an Archer, and a Rifleman in MWO, thanks to the original and forward lawsuits being thrown out of court with prejudice the Unseen mechs are now part of the games again.

  • @smacleod69
    @smacleod69 3 роки тому +13

    I love Robotech. If you grew up in the 80's, you had a damn good childhood watching that show. If it weren't for Harmony Gold seeing the potential of bringing Anime to the U.S. We wouldn't of had alot of the cartoons of that era translated into english.

    • @gendraconis7869
      @gendraconis7869 3 роки тому

      I grew up with knowing about Robotech but didn’t really see the show since I was interested in Pokémon not much Mecha Anime until recently lol

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 3 роки тому +1

      Man Harmony Gold was just a contractor. They didn't have any special insight. They just wanted to keep their cash cow going as long as possible.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому +2

      They werent the first though. I mean obviously in the 60's you had Speed Racer (brought over by Tatsunoko), Astro Boy and Gigantor. Then in the 70's you had Space Battleship Yamato (Star Blazers), Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets) brought in by Sid & Marty Croft, and Force Five (Great Mazinger, Getter Robo G, Danguard Ace, Gaiking and Daimos) brought in by Jim Terry productions. And in the 80's you also had Time Bokan and Golion (Voltron) brought in by World Media Events.
      In fact, the fact that Speed Racer and Toke Bokan were already brought over is probably what motivated Tatsunoko to also bring over SDF Macross, Southern Cross and Mospeada which combined into Robotech.
      So it was really Tatsunoko's doing.

  • @ericaugusto4296
    @ericaugusto4296 3 роки тому +17

    Next year is The 40th aniversary of The franchise. Expect a new anime maybe.

    • @bl8danjil
      @bl8danjil 3 роки тому +4

      Hopefully it goes the opposite of where Delta went. To me Macross Plus and Zero were the franchises peak.

    • @ericaugusto4296
      @ericaugusto4296 3 роки тому +5

      @@bl8danjil Delta really sucked. It was more like to promote idol music instead of giving a well developed Love story mixed with War. They tried to copy Macross 7 but that epically failed. With western market in vision they need to plan better.

    • @koungendo6371
      @koungendo6371 3 роки тому

      @@ericaugusto4296 yo, Delta hater :V

    • @urugazette
      @urugazette 3 роки тому

      @@koungendo6371 he spit fact tho, delta suck

    • @nathanjones6638
      @nathanjones6638 3 роки тому +2

      @@ericaugusto4296 while I haven't watched it all yet, not all Macros s lore is even meant to directly be about war.
      Take Macross Plus. It dealt with conflicts over artificial intelligence, weapons without human control, and the struggle Zentraedi faced in rejecting their battle lust.
      In short, my own opinion is that while I don't care much for what I have seen of it, Delta makes sense in canon, because short of just going from one war story to another like Gundam is just not how this universe is.
      The only reason the Vajra conflict became a galaxy wide C.F. Is because of deliberate manipulation of those creatures by rogue scientists.

  • @leetmaster1
    @leetmaster1 3 роки тому +4

    I still give Robotech it's respect, because it led me to SDF Macross. But I feel Macross is far better. Harmony Gold brought too much drama on licensing and basically ruining the series themselves. I still bought the series twice, on VHS and the DVD box set. I want more Macross!

  • @Kamiyoda
    @Kamiyoda 3 роки тому +23

    ....
    So the time has come
    *Goes outside with a portable railgun *
    I KNOW YOUR OUT THERE GIANT EARTH DESTROYING METEOR

    • @Squiggles01
      @Squiggles01 3 роки тому +3

      I can get some mechs with Gauss rifles, they might help?

  • @davidnemoseck9007
    @davidnemoseck9007 3 роки тому +41

    First, I want to be up front. I'm a huge Robotech fan. It's my first "love", you can say, and also help get me into anime. With that said, I also love Macross. I have the dub stuff that made it over here. And yes, I managed to get ahold of a sub version of Frontier. I consider Macross and Robotech to be cousins of sorts. That's just my opinion though. I'm also happy to hear that we will be able to get official Macross stuff, hopefully dubbed. Now to get to what I wanted to say. You don't know all the facts about how and why Robotech came into being. You see, back in the day, they couldn't just bring over any shows from Japan, or for that matter, put any show on, if they wanted to put it into sydnication. You had to at least, 60 episodes. Macross only has 36. So they had to do what they did in order to get Macross over here. It was also not the first. It was done to several others also. Though, with Robotech, it was one of the last. After that we started to get, what we have today. Hopefully this clears things up a little.

  • @imperialoutback-schuby4089
    @imperialoutback-schuby4089 3 роки тому +2

    Shoji Kawamori, the screenwriter and original mech designer of Macross designed the ASF-X Shinden II which is based off of the MQ-9 Ghost Drone from Macross that we see in Macross Zero

  • @brownbear992
    @brownbear992 3 роки тому +6

    Harmony Gold is also the reason we don't have more Mechwarrior games.

    • @kharnthebetrayer1575
      @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 роки тому +1

      New one drops this yr. Battletech computer game been out for awhile now. HG lost the suit and Battletech makes figures resembling the old ones.

  • @Veritech2011
    @Veritech2011 3 роки тому +4

    About time they finally come to an agreement I just hope any Macross game that comes overseas gets a PC port; I don't have consoles anymore. As for Ace Combat I have skins downloaded from Nexus for my F-14D specifically Hikaru's VF-1J and Max's VF-1S DYRL.

  • @bryonfeliksa3845
    @bryonfeliksa3845 3 роки тому +13

    Now we just need a Valkryie in DCS 😅

    • @Nails077
      @Nails077 3 роки тому

      I want a VB-6 König Monster 😁

  • @sadhanatheprince7542
    @sadhanatheprince7542 3 роки тому +17

    AWACS Long Caster:
    (Pilots and Soldiers cheering over the radio)
    Count:
    AWACS Long Caster:
    Jaeger:
    Huxian:
    HTBK ONE:
    PJ:
    Omega 11:
    Viper 9:
    Pixy:

  • @robofreak425
    @robofreak425 3 роки тому +10

    Oh, does this mean we have a chance to get the VF Squadron skins for the F-14 in AC7?

    • @251spartan
      @251spartan 3 роки тому +1

      ......We need it, please let it be so!

    • @251spartan
      @251spartan 3 роки тому

      @Shop Kick Ace Combat 7

  • @WanderlustZero
    @WanderlustZero 2 роки тому +4

    Meanwhile somewhere in Belka:
    'How do we use this stolen Zentraedi battle pod to attack Osea...'

  • @joddypranata1862
    @joddypranata1862 3 роки тому +19

    They should do the same like Uchuu Senkan Yamato and StarBlazers for the Video Game/Toys, BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO, and.. like the Solo wing said: "what does the border given to us?"

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      I tried playing those PS1 and PS2 Yamato games. Normally I can get by most Japanese games I play with little to no knowledge of the language but those were practically impossible lol

  • @CptPhilippnes
    @CptPhilippnes 3 роки тому +6

    We might finally be able to see Macross return to the Super Robot Wars games.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      Seeing as how SRW games arent localized to the West anyway, Im not even sure why they stopped being included.

    • @CptPhilippnes
      @CptPhilippnes 3 роки тому

      @@budgiecat2885 SRW has been locallized lately. I think SRW X and V are in english now but have lacked Macross.

    • @budgiecat2885
      @budgiecat2885 3 роки тому

      @@CptPhilippnes Those aren't localized to the West. They're localized to Asia regions (Hong Kong/China/Thailand/Malaysia) and because of that, they've included the option for English since obviously those countries dont speak Japanese. But its all really been a recent thing theyve been doing within the past 5 or 6 years I'd say. So unless Harmony Gold's license restrictions carried over outside North America and Europe and extended its way over to Asia region as well (doubt it), I dont think it mattered if they had Macross or not. I mean HG has had that license restriction since 1985 so what wasnt stopping Bandai from putting Macross stuff in SRW before?

    • @CptPhilippnes
      @CptPhilippnes 3 роки тому

      @@budgiecat2885 hmm I always assumed there was a connection with that and how hard it is to find any macross products locally and not from a 3rd party seller.

  • @willisaw135
    @willisaw135 3 роки тому +17

    Well, this looks interesting. I never heard Macross before until I discovered this channel here.

    • @AceCombatFan
      @AceCombatFan  3 роки тому +5

      It's a very fun franchise, glad you found out about it!

    • @willisaw135
      @willisaw135 3 роки тому

      @@AceCombatFan I just need to know where to start as a beginner of Macross. (Actually, a first timer.)

    • @ertuio20002
      @ertuio20002 3 роки тому +6

      @@willisaw135 watch in realese order.
      Macross
      Macross dyrl
      Macross 2
      Macross plus
      And so on

    • @willisaw135
      @willisaw135 3 роки тому +1

      @@ertuio20002 thank you.

    • @koungendo6371
      @koungendo6371 3 роки тому

      You can watch it by timeline, easier to understand the whole stories:
      Macross Zero - SDF Macross - Macross Plus - Macross 7 - Macross Frontier - Macross Delta
      There are also movies
      SDF Macross: Do you remember love: You can watch it without watch the TV series, minor different storyline
      Macross 7: The Galaxy's Calling Me: watch between episode 38 and 40 of Macross 7 TV series
      Macross Frontier: The False Songstress and Macross Frontier: The Wings of Goodbye: This 2 movies are nearly to completely differ from the TV series, watch The False Songstress first then The Wings of Goodbye
      Macross Delta: Passionate Walkure and Macross Delta: Absolute Live!!!: This 2 movies are likes 2 above
      Macross Frontier: Labyrinth of Time: Third Movie of Macross Frontier, just a short movie.
      There is the only OVA doesn't canon the timeline: Macross 2: Lovers Again, this is a boom, you have to watch it although it isn't canon

  • @malcolmar
    @malcolmar 3 роки тому

    Great news! Thanks for the update.

  • @PSC4.1
    @PSC4.1 3 роки тому +4

    Well it’s a good thing that this has been settled, imagine what would happen if these two groups made content for new ace combat games.

  • @kharnthebetrayer1575
    @kharnthebetrayer1575 3 роки тому +2

    So Harmony gold fights are over from Battletech to Macross/Rorbotech !! The world is right now !!

  • @andrewp6387
    @andrewp6387 3 роки тому +1

    I want to see more Robotech/Macross games.
    I mean, my first Robotech introduction was Robotech Battlecry and it miffed me that I never got to use the head lasers on the Veritech

  • @bambino100011
    @bambino100011 3 роки тому +3

    Bandai also makes Macross toys too =) the DX line can now be distributed overseas now =)

  • @Axaul
    @Axaul 3 роки тому +4

    The Macross PSP games were alot of fun

  • @rodrigorincongarcia771
    @rodrigorincongarcia771 3 роки тому +2

    The upcoming live-action Robotech movie. Upcoming for how long? 15 years, 20? I mean, I remember people supposed to play Rick Hunter that right now could play captain Global instead.

  • @ThePistacchio1
    @ThePistacchio1 3 роки тому +3

    Nagase said "the universe is finally within our grasp". Macross vibes intensified

  • @albertko1
    @albertko1 3 роки тому +2

    I see that US companies that sell Bandai products such as gunpla are now stocking the Macross re-releases of kits. Good news on the toys then.

  • @keloid7682
    @keloid7682 3 роки тому +6

    YES YES YES! You think they’ll make the English Dubs for the rest of their shows?

  • @mangacomics1601
    @mangacomics1601 3 роки тому +2

    Original Macross have been on a bunch of streaming services for a long time. What we should get is all the later animes.

  • @kamitorings
    @kamitorings 3 роки тому +8

    im smiling already.

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher 3 роки тому +3

    Oh man, now it’s time to actually learn about Macross for real. Can we get a new Macross game on modern consoles/PC? That’d be sick!

  • @dtester
    @dtester 3 роки тому +1

    Great news...ultimately the best way to handle these things is to just do business and work together. Fun fact, Macross 2 and Macross Plus were allowed releases in the US way back when. Not sure about the history behind that...either they worked out a deal with HG at the time or HG didn't realize that they could block the franchises until after those releases.

  • @junethefox5834
    @junethefox5834 3 роки тому +4

    Finally, the two series can live in peace....I hope.
    (For the record I do like Macross, I just slightly prefer Robotech)

  • @thomashare6733
    @thomashare6733 3 роки тому +2

    Uta-Macross getting English Patch and release in the global app store I can see happening, but man would I want Macross 30 to be rereleased with English, because from what I know some elements in 30 are really cool actually(and has the VF-30 Chronos, which remains on of the most pretty Variable Fighters)

  • @FuhQ_Melly
    @FuhQ_Melly 3 роки тому +4

    ACF Borders
    Me THIS IS WHAT V2 IS FOR

  • @keilerbie7469
    @keilerbie7469 3 роки тому +17

    "they were available only in Japan, because of borders"
    god damn borders at it again

    • @bumbayker
      @bumbayker 3 роки тому +3

      Not really. It's because Harmony Gold filed their insidious trademarks on the "Macross" name, "UN Spacy" and its logo in several regions and countries. The international distribution license they acquired from Tatsunoko only covered the original Macross series and the sequels or spin-offs.

    • @ISAFSoldier
      @ISAFSoldier 3 роки тому +2

      @@bumbayker Yep, not really borders, but Grey Men not willing to give up the past....

  • @ishomarymuzaki2
    @ishomarymuzaki2 3 роки тому

    Well, i really relieved hearing that yesterday

  • @americo9999
    @americo9999 3 роки тому

    yay, finally, glad to hear these news

  • @gieronnialaw3620
    @gieronnialaw3620 3 роки тому +1

    The Macross Universe has grown so large that Robotech is not capable to contain it any more.

  • @brinthaavan
    @brinthaavan 3 роки тому +6

    that attack on titan ending had me depressed this cheered me up

    • @TheEsdaniel
      @TheEsdaniel 3 роки тому

      Me too mate , at least we are free on the deep blue sky , not quite as a dove though ( crying )

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 3 роки тому

      Oh the season ended or the series?
      I haven't watched any of it yet

  • @freakofnature96
    @freakofnature96 3 роки тому +1

    Here's a question, before all this, the UK and Australia won court cases where Macross specific merch could be sold in those countries, the British Museum stocked Delta statues of all things and we also got a one off niche theatrical presentation of the Plus movie, so subbed only (wasn't able to attend alas!) so I wonder if that would help speed along merch distributions? Third party sellers like Ebay have much more Macross figures and statues at half the usual price in the UK.

  • @valentinvasquez761
    @valentinvasquez761 Рік тому +1

    Still not over. The most important series in the franchise, the original macross still isnt gonna be released in any foreseeable future

  • @bravo6959
    @bravo6959 3 роки тому +5

    Ok bros but remember Belka did nothing wrong

  • @cryptolicious3738
    @cryptolicious3738 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome news! macross/robotech rock
    anyone temember that game Silpheed ?

  • @mtktm
    @mtktm 3 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised that it took this long. I was curious what harmony gold was doing a few years ago. Their site looked like something out of the 90s and was basically a real estate site.

  • @captainbean3114
    @captainbean3114 3 роки тому

    7:03
    *Pixie shrieking in the distance*

  • @jayturner6570
    @jayturner6570 3 роки тому +1

    Wow...I have tears in my eyes.

  • @Animeoatku85jr
    @Animeoatku85jr 3 роки тому

    It about time finally

  • @theelordpyro
    @theelordpyro 3 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this since the 90s!

  • @AzureanSky
    @AzureanSky 3 роки тому +2

    Hopefully the prices of those expensive variable fighters models and figures will go down. I mean seriously, the good ones costs more than Bandai PG gundam models.

  • @cinageransayeh
    @cinageransayeh 3 роки тому

    i'm so happy that i heard that news

  • @PrimeStarStudios
    @PrimeStarStudios 3 роки тому

    Finally! I get to watch some Macross!

  • @MoscowTKD
    @MoscowTKD 3 роки тому +1

    At last! I can't believe it! I need an updated 1/3000 SDF-1 toy TV series stylised.

  • @brandonandcharlene9527
    @brandonandcharlene9527 3 роки тому +1

    The original Macross was released on DVD by ADV films, as well as Macross II and Macross Plus. I just think anything after that (Basically Macross 7 and onward) had been restricted. But Ill definitely support any physical media releases that come out in the future. Looking forward to it.

    • @RaddSpencer
      @RaddSpencer 3 роки тому

      Ace Combat Fan gets some of the details wrong, or at least glosses over them considerably. Back in the 80's HarmonyGold bought the international rights to distribute and merchandise the TV series SDF Macross through Tatsunoko Productions. Tatsunoko got the international rights from Big West as part of their agreement in animating the series. In the 90's we got DYRL, Macross II and Macross Plus via other companies because they were not covered under HG's rights to ONLY the TV series. The ADV dub (and the AnimEigo sub before that) of the original series were released in partnership with HarmonyGold.
      However, in the late 90's/early 00's HarmonyGold suddenly decided that they owned ALL of Macross. That's when they began blocking all other Macross sequels and spin-offs, the videogames, the toys, etcetera. This was central to the disagreement between Big West and HarmonyGold. BW asserted that they owned international rights to all the Macross sequels and spin-offs, not HG. At the time there were plans to bring Macross Plus toys to the US, plans that got scrapped because of HG.
      In the late 00's, early 10's, Tatsunoko took BigWest to court over who owned Macross internationally. Tatsunoko being who HG got their rights from. Tatsunoko lost that case and Big West's ownership of Macross internationally was established by the court (although, Tatsunoko did win domestic Japanese rights to the original TV series). Still, HG maintained that they alone owned Macross outside of Japan, leveraging trademarks etc to make any attempt by Big West to release any new Macross outside of Japan a costly and time consuming prospect.

  • @thesurvivalist.
    @thesurvivalist. 3 роки тому +1

    All they had to do was, make one of them into an alternate Universe! Some people have trouble thinking outside the box!
    I like both, now where are the live action movies!

  • @ascensionindustries9631
    @ascensionindustries9631 3 роки тому +1

    All we need now is a live action Macross film series.

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors 3 роки тому

      I hope I live long enough to see this become a reality and I'm not even that old but feel as though its such a fantasy... At this point

    • @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357
      @mosscoveredthreehandledgra2357 2 роки тому

      @mandellorian I don't think you need to worry that Robotech live action film is just a pipe dream.

  • @megaben99
    @megaben99 3 роки тому +2

    I hope they release macross do you remember love (the movie retelling of the original series)

    • @norikotakaya14292
      @norikotakaya14292 3 роки тому

      Unfortunately, probably not. The new license agreement doesn't cover the entire Macross catalog and Harmony Gold continues to control the DYRL film as well as the original series. It would be nice though to finally get it.

  • @Sauronsbane
    @Sauronsbane 3 роки тому +2

    Finally we have left the bad timeline and move forward into a brighter future. Also quick play walkure cover of september to celebrate.

  • @weregarurumon3202
    @weregarurumon3202 3 роки тому +1

    Yes!

  • @LordSpleach
    @LordSpleach 3 роки тому

    We'll see.

  • @Banzai431
    @Banzai431 3 роки тому

    Wow... Finally. So many years man.

  • @tiberius1837
    @tiberius1837 3 роки тому

    Strange: I specifically remember Macross Plus being on TV in the US once...

  • @carlcard7
    @carlcard7 3 роки тому +1

    Well, I don't know about all the politics and drama, but I grew up watching "Robotech" series from Harmony Gold, that is all I knew for a long time until I found out about Macross in Japan.....

  • @wolfguard1180
    @wolfguard1180 3 роки тому

    Yeeeessss!!!!
    There were so may games and anime we missed out on, time for these guys to get to work on some remasters.

  • @JoybuzzerX
    @JoybuzzerX 3 роки тому +1

    I like Robotech, but I'm glad this means we'll likely get English dubs of Macross.

    • @mr.sinjin-smyth
      @mr.sinjin-smyth 3 роки тому

      Oh yeah... English dub for Macross Frontier and a much better and faithful English dub for Macross Do You Remember Love?

  • @tannerrennat7786
    @tannerrennat7786 3 роки тому +1

    Wonder if this will effect Battletech's lost mechs. Harmony Gold's been fucking me since the 80's.

  • @Smokedship
    @Smokedship 3 роки тому

    Excellent news!!!

  • @ryanparker4996
    @ryanparker4996 2 роки тому +1

    "Because of borders"
    Pixy: yo buddy

  • @NOPerative
    @NOPerative 3 роки тому

    TUBI - free (commercial/as supported like television commercial spots) has Macross and Robotech.

  • @TheSwartz
    @TheSwartz 3 роки тому +1

    I had to double check the posting date and make sure this was not an April Fool's joke.

  • @glenmcinnes4824
    @glenmcinnes4824 3 роки тому

    so I can get a replacement for my VHS copy of DYRL and missing Macross + DVD's, will they be the old dubs or will we get fresh dubs?

  • @madboardjester
    @madboardjester 3 роки тому

    Macross Plus did get a US release through Manga USA. That was however the only Macross title that did get through the decades long blockade.

    • @fiveoctaves
      @fiveoctaves Рік тому

      @mandellorian And DYRL as "Clash of the Bionoids" and simply "Macross" by Toho.

  • @FLJBeliever1776
    @FLJBeliever1776 3 роки тому

    Studio Nue created Macross. Big West was a distributor who came in later.
    While yes, Harmony Gold is an American company... It hasn't been owned by any Americans since forever.
    It's owned by Italians through an Italian company.
    Harmony Gold pretty much moved into Real Estate and was investigated by US authorities at one point.
    They couldn't find enough to bring charges, but the Italian authorities DID find enough to bring charges against the Italian parent company and its owners.
    Though not all charges stuck due to Statue of Limitations.
    But I would imagine a new leadership has been since installed in the Italian parent company or Harmony Gold went independent.

  • @ericbiggdogg7337
    @ericbiggdogg7337 3 роки тому +1

    My god,finally my dream came true,ever since I was young...I loved both and now I get to see both of them come back...for the last time in my life.

    • @darthpaulx3721
      @darthpaulx3721 3 роки тому

      But Harmony gold was going to continiue Genesis climber Mospeadia or Robotech the new generation.

  • @RageDuck0
    @RageDuck0 3 роки тому +1

    Take the flight combat from ace combat and the ground combat from titan fall 2 and use a open Feild like battlefield design for the playing fields and have the transformations of the veretechs as a sort of button press like an ability

  • @longrider42
    @longrider42 3 роки тому

    I have Macross, released by Harmony Gold, a boxed set, I've had it for years. I also have Robotech, and yes I've seen the differences.

  • @wolfsigma
    @wolfsigma 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if maybe Big Sky threatened to go after the rights of Robotech. That would have brought Harmony to the table.

  • @bryonfeliksa3845
    @bryonfeliksa3845 3 роки тому +2

    YAY!!!!

  • @bryonfeliksa3845
    @bryonfeliksa3845 3 роки тому +2

    YEEEAAAASSSS!

  • @brandonschwertley2723
    @brandonschwertley2723 3 роки тому +1

    Harmony Gold, where have I heard that name before.........Screams internally in Battletech
    Its time to get rid of some borders

  • @SpartanA054Moose
    @SpartanA054Moose 3 роки тому

    Hellll yeah!

  • @e_skie2685
    @e_skie2685 3 роки тому

    Long time fan of them.... can't wait for either a reboot to the series or new content.

  • @cyanpompano8695
    @cyanpompano8695 3 роки тому

    Yes! thats awesome.