24 basses and bass-baritones sing Grand Inquisitor's low E from Verdi's Don Carlo
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2021
- Josef Herrmann, Alexander Welitsch, Giulio Neri, Nicola Moscona, Hermann Uhde, Pavel Manolov, Ferruccio Mazzoli, Nicola Zaccaria, Ivo Vinco, Kurt Bohme, Martti Talvela, Valery Yaroslavtsev, Nicolai Ghiaurov, David Ward, Antonio Zerbini, Franco Pugliese, Marco Stefanoni, Dimiter Petkov, Hans Sotin, John Macurdy, Giovanni Gusmeroli, Jerome Hines, Justino Diaz, Samuel Ramey.
Ramey, Neri, Hines beautiful E2 💫
You can clearly tell that ramey’s was boosted. The noise floor got a lot louder when he started going siiii before droping to the E.
Ramey had huge dark sounding low notes and his voice seemed to actually blossom down there. Having heard him in the house in a few roles with low Fs I can say these did not have to be boosted.
Ghiaurov is terrific as always!
Sam Ramey is undoubtedly the best of all, the most accurate and ringing low E.
Most others aren’t bad either, yet !
Ramey had huge dark sounding low notes and his voice seemed to actually blossom down there. Having heard him in the house in a few roles with low Fs I can say these did not have to be boosted. Part of that is an auditory illusion, because the middle of the voice was much more balanced and not a huge sound like Hines. Ramey’s lows were cavernous and huge down to a low C.
Just wonderful. Hines and Ramey fantastic 👏
I also like Neri and Ghiaurov
Ho ascoltato Ramey in teatro,e devo dire che la sua voce non è quella ascoltata...è sicuramente potenziata😮
Credo che Giulio Neri sia il miglior Grande Inquisitore di sempre 🖤👏
Welitsch, Neri, Moscona, Vinco, Talvela, Ghiaurov, Hines Diaz e Ramey hanno un buon Mi basso.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ottimi pure loro: Diaz e Ramey pur essendo bassi-baritoni hanno delle note basse a dir poco notevoli, Ghiaurov è fantastico sia come Filippo II che come il Grande Inquisitore, anche se in quest'ultimo non l'avevo mai sentito. 🥰
@@esterbruno8604 Ghiaurov ha solo una registrazione come Il Grande Inquisitore ed è in francese, ma il Filippo è Ruggero Raimondi che è un baritono sottosviluppato.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Io Raimondi non riesco a sentirlo in questi tipi di ruoli... Si sente che sforza la voce e che la scurisce artificialmente.
@@esterbruno8604 Raimondi suona quasi come un tenore accanto a Ghiaurov.
Love these low notes/high notes compilations, thanks a lot Barone!
I will definitely make more
Great idea for this video - selection of bass baritone voices. Really impressive.
Ramey's low notes are wow...
As a bass-baritone, Ramey's low E is stronger than many basses.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 exactly!
Giulio Neri non è paragonabile a nessun altro nei ruoli di basso profondo.
GIULIO NERI
THE GREATEST
Gulio Neri is THE BEST. Ask to others singers.
Other than Mr.Ramey Dr.Morris Robinson has one of the most resonant Inquisitor lines I’ve heard yet. You all should check out the scene between himself and Mr.Eric Owens.
Ramey! OMG!
Please make a compilation about Zaccaria's high f sharp from Oh chi piange from Nabucco ❤
Neri and Ramey for me
Ramey is a true bass!
Che bellezza.... Che note gravi meravigliose!!!!! ❤️
Surprised by Josef Herrmann. Never thought he would have such a resonant low E
Didn't know that Ghiaurov sung this role! Huge low E! Speaking of the others. Hermann, Mc Curdy,and Mazzolli, along with Franco Pugliese, are total revelations. Did not know about them before (sorry...). My hearth is with Neri, but in my opinion the most impressive are McCurdy and Ramey. Not only because of how big or deep the note sounds, but for the iron control they show on emitting it. Thanks for including Zerbini, Zaccaria, VINCO and Gusmeroli, often forgotten when speaking about good basses.
I prefer Welitsch over Herrmann
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Can you tell me a bass that today is capable to sing this role how it deserves? Better if under 50 years old.
@@diegoreviati5166 Well, Samuel Ramey.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 ramey is 79 this year, and in his later performances a noticeable wobble can be observed. I was referring to "young" singer. Can you tell me.some names please? A part from myself of course 😂.
@@diegoreviati5166 I don’t think the young singers can sing this role very well. I’ve sung it once but it wasn’t good because I’m not a real bass and my technique is not very good.
Ramey's E is overamplified (dirty work on a live stream...). I am not sure about Ghiaurov.
Anyways, it's not about the lowness, it's about singing. Both are great (including several others here).
Have you heard him in the house? Having heard both Morris and Ramey on the same stage, I do not thing Ramey’s low notes were amplified here. He had massive low notes. People just don’t want to believe it because he also had a high A.
Talvela Ghiaurov Ramey Neri...ma bravi tutti. Che bel lavoro hai fatto Barone. Grazie
Anche Nicola Moscona si fa rispettare.
Oltre al mi basso, la tessiura del grande inquisitore è piuttosto alta, mentre Filippo ha molte note basse.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Moscona vanta parecchie recite al Met, quasi 500, ha cantato piu' volte con Bjorling Warren Milanov Castagna Roman, le grandi voci degli anni 30 40 50.
@@eugeniogentili1048 Era Ferrando e Raimondo della Callas.
Ramey il Grande!!
I hate the way he shakes his low notes, but Ramey's E is easily the best one. Interesting collection. A lot of them just don't have that E.
Ramey, Hines and Ghiaurov
Talvela il migliore
Samuel Ramey was the most sovereign!
Unless I'm mistaken, the extract with Talvela does not come from the Solti's recording (1965)
I found McCurdy's note more resonant than most, who were weak. Ramey was pretty good.
I got to hear him sing Zuniga, a small role, but the voice was like a brick wall.
Meravigliosa classifica! Una particolare preferenza per Neri.
Neri è un leone della lirica. Penso che il suo miglior grande inquisitore sia quello del 1951 con Nicola Rossi Lemeni.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Assolutamente SI. Grandissimo Lemeni!
@@alessandromoccia471 Ma questo è il peggior Filippo II di Lemeni. La registrazione del 1967 con Antonio Zerbini è decisamente migliore.
Grazie.
A quando una raccolta del Re-b del "Cujus animam" ?
Troverai Gedda ? Wunderlich ?
Inquisitore per antonomasia è Giulio Neri. Poi Talvela
Ramey una spanna sopra. Voci molto belle e pastose. Qualcuno purtroppo stonato sul Mi. Però che cannoni!!
Where did you find Il grand inquisitor in German, barone?) I've heard that there's Don Carlo in German, but never could find
I have a few recordings of Don Carlo in German. I will upload them all.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 thank you 💥
Ho ascoltato, e visto Joseph Rouleau: ROH 1985, Haitink.
Pochi lo conoscono ma... impressionante ! 👌👏
Furlanetto ? Salminen ? Ryhänen ? 😉
Nicola Zaccaria was Marilyn Horne's 2nd husband. Beautiful, smooth bass voice he had! The Greek Ghiaurov!
The Greek Giaiotti.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 I like that better than what I said earlier!
@@victorchristy1706 Unfortunately most roles in Zaccaria’s repertoire are comprimario...
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Maybe that explains why he hasn't got more into the major, leading roles as most basses and bass-baritones do. He should have been deserved having his chance in the major roles more often.
@@victorchristy1706 I think Zaccaria is better than Christoff but not as good as Ghiaurov.
My personal favorites from this roster are Giulio Neri, Nicola Moscona, Pavel Manolov, Ferruccio Mazzoli, Kurt Böhme, Martti Talvela, David Ward, Valery Yaroslavtev, Nicolai Ghiaurov, Dimiter Petkov, Hans Sotin, John Macurdy, and Jerome Hines.
I also like Alexander Welitsch, don't forget that he is actually a bass-baritone.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 I have a soft spot for him too. Though, when it comes to the Grand Inquisitor, the bassi profondi will always capture my heart, mind, and soul in this role.
@@operaanimelover369 Actually Filippo is lower than the grand inquisitor.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Regardless, the narrative remains that two great bassos are necessary for an exceptional casting of The Grand Inquisitor and Filippo II. Three if you count The Monk, which I absolutely do.
@@operaanimelover369 The Grand Inquisitor has higher tessiura and less low notes than Filippo but he must sound much older and more powerful than Filippo (just like Monterone in Rigoletto). Justino Diaz is one of my favorite bass-baritones but he sounds too youthful for the Grand Inquisitor who is over 90 years old. Neri and Talvela are ideal for this role.
IMO Neri, Macurdy, & Ramey take the prize
Talvella is the best here. For him it is not that low. Ghiaurov is surprisingly very good. Ramey can be the best (if not suspection of amplifier).
Ramey’s low notes in the opera house were HUGE, dark, cavernous and snarly.
Uhde was a great singer, but not a basso. Had to be chosen for his acting. Its the note everyone is waiting for in that scene. When its not there, its a dissappintment. What a great scene, when both bassos are on fire! ( Ghiaurov and Talvela. Vienna!)
Can you make a video with low notes in first octave(C1-B1)?
That is very unusual in Opera.
@@LiederBrasilis even a Bb1?
No, because it’s impossible to find a good extremely low note of an opera singer other than Ghiaurov’s Bb1. But I believe that some singers could vocalize down to the first octave. I’m a low baritone and I can vocalize down to a Bb1 or an A1 on a good day but I can’t sing it on stage because it doesn’t have enough squillo. Maybe some low basses like Siepi could sing lower than C2 on stage.
@@LiederBrasilis But Ghiaurov has great Bb1
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Where did Ghiaurov sing that low?
For me it's Ramey, Macurdy, Hines and Neri. Some of the basses or bass baritones sound like their groveling down there. Perhaps miscast?
Sam Ramey. Yes.
Hermann, Neri, Talvela, Hines, Ramey
Most of them can't cut it down there. Exceptions are Neri, Böhme, Hines, and Talvela. Also, a Grand Inquisitor must be a basso profondo (Talvela, Böhme, Neri) or at least sound like one (Hines had that weight and timbre, though the party line of his voice was basso cantante).
talvela,neri,ghiaurov,hines....ecc
What about Carlo Cava?
He is great too
Is low e that hard to sing on stage?
I don’t think so.
Low notes are not difficult, problems are much higher notes before and short time to depressurise and keep legato
Giulio Neri,poi Ramey e Vinco
Herrmann is a baritone though!
Gee I wonder which ones are the baritones lol. Some of them were BARELY audible
L'ultimo sembra in stereo!!!
I know you don't like Moll, but his low E as Inquisitor sounded great (although the recording is distorted)
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I don’t think he sounds great at all. His voice is even more throaty than Salminen. And Moll is not a low bass.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 I'm just referring to that note in the recording. The rest is throaty and 'open'. But the low E sounded good to me.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Ofcourse Moll is a low bass. Many of his students including Vladimir Miller, a famous oktavist (but not my favourite one), said that Moll had the range of a russian oktavist and some have said that Moll had the lowest voice he ever heard. There is also a story of Moll singing O Isis und Osiris and oktave lower in a rehearsal with perfectly proper, audible tone. And ofcourse you can hear it in his recordings, unless you want to consider him worthless in every way, because you disagree with his technique. Just because you don't like him doesn't make him not a basso profondo.
@@BaroneVitellioScarpia1 he is a profundo. The dude had power into the first octave and according to vladimir miller moll had a consistent F1. You may not like his voice but he was definitely a profundo
ANDDDD KURT MOLL SHOWS THEM ....
Here is lack of Raffaele Arie's in Salzburg 1960
Fantasia di bassi.. Il ruolo non è di basso principale, seppur la parte è impervia. Che si sappia, Pinza, Tozzi, Siepi, Giaiotti...hanno mai cantato Inquisitore ?
Siepi aveva cantato il grande inquisitore. Ma poiché Pinza, Siepi, Tozzi e Giaiotti sono i bassi di prima classe, quindi se cantano il grande inquisitore, nessuno oserà cantare Filippo, perché Filippo è il ruolo di basso principale in Don Carlo.
Giaiotti ha sempre cantato Filippo secondo un ruolo quasi scritto per lui, come per gli altri che hai citato.
Neri, Vinco, Ramey, the least not a basso nero
Ferrucio Furlanetto deserved to be on this list.
Pavel Manolov does not sing a real Low E.