I’ve owned a w211 e63 for 4 years now with 125,000 miles on it. I have replaced both front air springs, control arms, up and lower ball joints, sway bar end links at a reputable shop. For some reason my car still drives very harsh over bumps to the point where I’m afraid to drive over a road that has pot holes. I know this isn’t how the car should drive so what could it be? Also when driving at low speeds over bumps there is a knocking sound from front left. There is also a popping sounds when lateral weight transfer around corners. This is all very disappointing to me considering how much time and money I put into the car. Please help.
That’s very strange. Ride quality is one of the best in w211 and it should not be harsh at all. What brand air springs were used? Are you sure your car hasn’t been lowered either through MB software or lowering links?
Should be the smallest of your fears. Air suspension is relatively cheap and easy to DIY. There are well known and trustworthy aftermarket companies that are up to a par with oem.
that's just wrong. Modern airmatic systems are one of the best out there. The benefit is they will work 250'000km long while a conventional steel set up would have to be replaced 2 times within that span. Therefore in the long term you get more comfort and less maintanance work, sure the dampers cost more, but it's worth it. My AMG is out of warranty since 3 years now, not a single issue with the lowered airmatic. When they fail early, let's say 150'000km, then very often bad roads lead to that.
@@v12-s65my w211 has had 3 sets of front, 4 sets of rear bags in the service history. All Mercedes dealer. 115,000 miles. Watching this video as the rear has started to fail again 🤣
Either the dealer didn’t change the springs in pairs, or used used parts, or you have extremely bad roads, or you never wash your suspension, or there’s a lot of debris in the system and the filter has never been changed. Otherwise there’s no way you went through 3 sets of front suspension in those miles.
@@AccentOnCarsthe car is 2003 and I live in the UK, the roads here are pretty bad. 3rd set of fronts (1st being what it left the factory with) was put on at 80k miles I believe.
9:57 To say driving at regular speeds through potholes is better on the suspension, then showing this clip is exactly why ppl drive cautiously through potholes 😅. No way at that speed is the suspension happy vs lower speed.
I said “in certain cases”. 90% of time you see that pot hole too late when flying 80mph on the road. At that point it’s better to let the car fly over the pothole than slam on brakes.
Depending on trim level, w213 may have standard suspension which is a multi-link setup on all 4 corners, or dynamic body control suspension or Airmatic suspension. Regardless of the type of suspension, all offered selective or adaptive damping, and offered premium ride quality.
If you mean for airmatic, then I am personally of the opinion that it reduces its life. I came to this conclusion empirically. All my friends with lowered air suspension have to replace them sooner than non-lowered. My theory is that dust and sand gets trapped more in between rubber working as abrasive.
hmm I have an e53 amg with 94'000km and lowered suspension. Since it's only 25mm (the car sits very high standard) the comfort isn't even that much different. Like an E63s sport height. Till now nothing ever happened
What kind of suspension issues have you had? 🤔
I’ve owned a w211 e63 for 4 years now with 125,000 miles on it. I have replaced both front air springs, control arms, up and lower ball joints, sway bar end links at a reputable shop. For some reason my car still drives very harsh over bumps to the point where I’m afraid to drive over a road that has pot holes. I know this isn’t how the car should drive so what could it be? Also when driving at low speeds over bumps there is a knocking sound from front left. There is also a popping sounds when lateral weight transfer around corners. This is all very disappointing to me considering how much time and money I put into the car. Please help.
That’s very strange. Ride quality is one of the best in w211 and it should not be harsh at all. What brand air springs were used? Are you sure your car hasn’t been lowered either through MB software or lowering links?
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The biggest fear of the buyer of Mercedes out of warranty its a matter of not if , but when the air suspension will fail .
Should be the smallest of your fears. Air suspension is relatively cheap and easy to DIY. There are well known and trustworthy aftermarket companies that are up to a par with oem.
that's just wrong. Modern airmatic systems are one of the best out there. The benefit is they will work 250'000km long while a conventional steel set up would have to be replaced 2 times within that span. Therefore in the long term you get more comfort and less maintanance work, sure the dampers cost more, but it's worth it. My AMG is out of warranty since 3 years now, not a single issue with the lowered airmatic.
When they fail early, let's say 150'000km, then very often bad roads lead to that.
@@v12-s65my w211 has had 3 sets of front, 4 sets of rear bags in the service history. All Mercedes dealer. 115,000 miles. Watching this video as the rear has started to fail again 🤣
Either the dealer didn’t change the springs in pairs, or used used parts, or you have extremely bad roads, or you never wash your suspension, or there’s a lot of debris in the system and the filter has never been changed. Otherwise there’s no way you went through 3 sets of front suspension in those miles.
@@AccentOnCarsthe car is 2003 and I live in the UK, the roads here are pretty bad. 3rd set of fronts (1st being what it left the factory with) was put on at 80k miles I believe.
ABC suspension next, 2007 CL 63 - so the ABC plus please!
100 percent! Will work on it 🤝
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@@AccentOnCars Thanks! Will watch it tonight. My car went in the shop for ABC leak last week :/
I hope it’s something small.
Great video. Thank you so much for making it. Can you please do AMG ABC hydraulic system next?
Thanks for the feedback! I plan on making a video dedicated to ABC. 🤝
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9:57 To say driving at regular speeds through potholes is better on the suspension, then showing this clip is exactly why ppl drive cautiously through potholes 😅. No way at that speed is the suspension happy vs lower speed.
I said “in certain cases”. 90% of time you see that pot hole too late when flying 80mph on the road. At that point it’s better to let the car fly over the pothole than slam on brakes.
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Does W213 have airmatic filter? cannot find it. Mine is 2018 E400 4matic with airmatic.
Sorry I don’t know for sure but I would guess it does.
I have lowered my e53 amg 25mm. I do wonder now, if the air spring is seperate at the back how does it lower if the damper is still fix?
Usually the air spring and shock is separate in the back. The air spring is what controls the height.
What is the suspension system in w213?
Depending on trim level, w213 may have standard suspension which is a multi-link setup on all 4 corners, or dynamic body control suspension or Airmatic suspension. Regardless of the type of suspension, all offered selective or adaptive damping, and offered premium ride quality.
I was wondering if lowering your suspension affect its life ? We are saying like 1 finger gap between fender and tire not slamming it to the balls
If you mean for airmatic, then I am personally of the opinion that it reduces its life. I came to this conclusion empirically. All my friends with lowered air suspension have to replace them sooner than non-lowered. My theory is that dust and sand gets trapped more in between rubber working as abrasive.
hmm I have an e53 amg with 94'000km and lowered suspension. Since it's only 25mm (the car sits very high standard) the comfort isn't even that much different. Like an E63s sport height. Till now nothing ever happened
@@AccentOnCars I'm sure it also depends on how much you lower it no? I matched my e53 height to the e63.
Yes you should be afraid
Don’t be a 🐱
Next time ill drive it properly with more confidence :D thanks
You should 😎🤝