Whoa dude here's a crazy idea, it's almost like he spoke to him, changed his opinion, and now feels differently and is saying so. Fucking weird, right?
*You can’t take anything joe says seriously he back tracks on all his opinions and holds no true beliefs, it’s annoying but it’s one of the reasons why it’s the best talk show of all time*
@@goldtiger9453 That may be true or not, but there's a fine line between backtracking, legitimately and genuinely having a change of mind or heart, and trying to be hospitable to guests so as to get them to be comfortable and open up. Joe is human just like the rest of us, and especially if he's constantly having all different kinds of guests on its understandable that he would change his mind more frequently than someone whose social media and youtube recommendations allign with their views and don't have to give multiple voices the benefit of the doubt for example. And Joe is definitely not a grifter for anyone who thinks that.
I called Kanye crazy until I listened to more in-depth interviews. He’s not crazy, he just has so many different ideas running through his head that it makes it difficult for him to communicate.
He says himself he has bipolar, his wife says it, I assume his doctors say it, so I dunno what the fuck Joe is getting on with. Trying to "normalize" bipolar isn't helpful to anyone.
Sup! If you are a real Kanye fan you gotta listen to this unreleased original draft Kanye West made for the track 'Stronger' in 2004. You gonna thank me later! ua-cam.com/video/Mqk3hEGlVmc/v-deo.html
He didn't have to meet him to come to that conclusion. I don't get the obsession with kanye from older white men. They're constantly trying to slander him and Joe is one of them. He CONSTANTLY talked bad about kanye on his podcast, there's even an entire montage of him doing it. He insulted him and his wife MULTIPLE times.
Was just thinking this bro. But we have to get the people who are commenting that shit sit on their ass all day and live to criticize people on the internet.
Guys.. Yes he's called kanye crazy in the past but then he actually met him in real life and talked to him for hours and changed his mind on how he felt about him after he actually met him in person. It's not that weird really.
@Mini Bike Morgan I meant its not that weird for someone to change their mind on someone after getting to know them but everyone's commenting like it's the craziest thing to ever happen. And its not hypocritical for someone to change their mind on someone after meeting them in person. Quite the opposite actually. And wow there's always that one person that has to make it political. Geez its like you people cant think of anything else besides politics. I feel bad for you, anyway enjoy the rest of your day
@Mini Bike Morgan being a hypocrite is claiming beliefs while actively contradicting them... what joe did was change his mind, that's actually a completely different thing...
@Mini Bike Morgan wtf does that have to do with anything? Anyone can move where they want, it has nothing to do with their political affiliation smh. Also California is fucked, they'll destroy themselves soon if they don't change
He panders sadly, he has his podcast now and is a household name now, he has to side with big celebs to protect his brand and he unfortunately sucks up to a lot of people and changes his perspective on things every 12 seconds and I was a big fan of his show for YEARS but he became just another sell out
@@marcywiththegoodhair4365 Or you're just putting him in to a box. The very thing he said in this video. He clearly changed his mind after speaking to him. People are supposed to be fluid with their opinions and Rogan is good like that. When was the last time you spent 3 hours with someone you thought was a prick because you saw them do something for 10 seconds that you didn't like? For example, if I was to go by only your comment alone, I could say you're quick to judge people you know little about (Joe Rogan in this case). But I'd bet I'm wrong about you. I'm sure you're more complicated than the poor opinion you've just espoused.
It's the biggest blessing and biggest curse at the same time. If you can harness the creative flow and neverending energy of the hypomanic phase it can benefit you greatly. The problem is that it doesn't last and either go to full-blown mania or depression.
He's not saying being crazy and manic is a good thing, he's saying this "crazy and manic version" of kanye that people portray him to be is the exact kanye that made him wealthy and famous. Joe rogan is just defending kanye, not all people with mental illness. If kanye was so mentally ill that he needed medication, how has he been able to succeed and do so many things competently in his life. Sure he may struggle with some form of mental illness but he's clearly not dangerous to himself or anyone around him.
And then he met him in real life and talked with him for a few hours and changed his mind about him once he got to actually talk to him. Not that weird really
@@clementine2234 Didn't say it was weird, just said he did it. The point was he is talking about the type of people that call others "crazy" and just dismiss them. Rogan was one of those people.
The person's perspective from a day ago a month ago or a year ago can change in a matter of the instance by understanding the situation that is not understood initially. Joe has helped me with all the people who came on his podcast see a better light of an individual when they're able to speak freely on the topic where my opinion was somewhat different than theirs
Kanye is diagnosed bipolar and his podcast appearance confirmed the accuracy of that diagnosis. One hundred percent. The point of medicating bipolar disorder, aside from creating a calmer and more well-adjusted human being, is also because left untreated those manic characteristics can be dangerous.
And it can lead to a downward spiral quick. They’re just as impulsive manic as they are depressed so you can imagine what happens when they go down hill.
I think when he says people like to categorize others and put them in a box, he's included himself in there too. He's guilty of it as well and understands he's human, but what's admirable about Joe is the fact that he can quickly admit when he knows he's wrong and adjusts his opinion about someone or something accordingly. That alone is a major contributing factor to why his podcast is so successful and entertaining.
@@mightkilljacksome1487 so you’re saying that ghostwriters are responsible for Kanye’s first 6 studio albums revolutionizing hip hop and inspiring so many artists to adopt Kanye’s style?
@@mightkilljacksome1487 bro every single artist gets help with their writing. Kanye does have some great bars, but it's his production that made his career, not his lyrics. The guy has 9 studio albums, all of which are sonically unique, and many of which took risks and went against the hip hop norm from a production standpoint.
I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and cluster b personality disorder. Calling people "crazy" just because they think differently makes you an asshole. He takes care of his family, he creates, he gets involved in community. What is so bad about him? Why does everyone have to fit in a stupid box to make other people feel more comfortable? If anyone dares to stand out, they *must* be medicated until they fall back in line with the mindless masses. I can pretend to be like everyone else if I must, but why must we?
Psychology is still in this weird place between science and pseudo-science. Trying to categorise all sorts of interconnected phenomenas from an incomplete map of the human psychology without having a complete picture of all the environmental/genetic factors that might come in play. Focusing too much on the symptoms instead of the potential external causes of these things. Take for instance the high prevalence of kids getting diagnosed with ADHD and put on medication. Instead of wondering if the environment we put them into might cause these symptoms, we conclude that the children themselves are what's wrong and need to be fixed and medicated.
very so damn true, STUPID people will always fear smart people , this is a dude that actually plans what he sets his mind too and crazy ppl can't put things together or think on a deep level like this.
@@henrihyvari4114 Joe has always been fake. More people are just starting to see through it now. I remember him talking shit to an expert and ridiculing her while he was spewing nonsense on a radio show. I remember him being a dick to a lot of people and now he's all ''lets be nice'' while he tries to sell you ONNIT.
@@PivotMania Bill Gates, Hans Zimmer, Dave Chappelle. Kanye is clearly not very intelligent. And btw intelligence doesn't mean success, if that was the case, teachers, scientist, intellectuals would be billionaires but they're not. Kanye happens to sell a product that is very lucrative and that's it.
When people see things they cannot comprehend,or beyond their thought process,people call it crazy rather than understand it,geniuses are always called crazy until we catch up with them
Sure..definitely...but that doesn't apply to Kanye. The mf does not have an IQ of 160+. He's a very talented music producer, apart from that, he's fkn koo koo insane!
" They ain't crazy, they don't know how Insanity feels" - Kanye. " I never live in fear, I'm too outta my mind " I think Kanye knows his crazy but a genius at the same time, he doesn't let that degrade him and feel less of himself. As a person with social anxiety , he gives me alot of hope.
To everyone who says “well joe said this...called him this...blah blah blah”. Only a fool wouldn’t change their opinion when new information comes to light. He met the man. Calm down.
You’ve never changed your opinion of someone after having met them ? Or are you one of those jre haters who seems to always be in the comment section of his videos?
Its not hypocrite but yes he did call him crazy before. He didnt know as much as he does now because they really talked. We don't know shit about kanye we know what people tell us its like Trump and Biden . Joe need to get Trump on the show after he get removed. We need to know about these fraud because obviously someone did something who it is idk but there is something messed up
Wtf is wrong with you. So if you feel a certain way once in your life you HAVE to feel that way for the rest of your life? Wtf is wrong with you nut cases
If it hasn’t been proven then no he doesn’t have bipolar. Don’t assume. Everyone has there own way of talking. Stop having these dumb standards that because someone talks differently or has a different opinion they’re crazy. Cause they’re not.
I think it's really easy to say that someone shouldn't be taking medication for being bipolar when you've only been around them for a couple of hours. You have no idea what can happen when someone is in a manic state, or a depressed state when they are bipolar. I'm not saying that everyone who is bipolar is a danger to themselves or others, but we have no idea what that looks like behind closed doors for him when he's with his family. I'm sure that the medication would have some effect on his creativity, and he has decided it's not worth it, but I doubt his family always feels the same all the time.
Totally agree, was surprised more ppl didn’t say that in the comments… you hit the nail on the head though! If you only interact with someone during a manic episode then of course it’s hard to see why someone would prescribe mood stabilizers! I do find these kinds of convos tough bc I don’t think anyone, not even Kanye, should have to make a major medical decision while being constantly scrutinized by the international media and the general public. Unfortunately it means that a lot of stigma and misinformation can get spread as well, even if done unintentionally. It’s a lot to ask of our podcast hosts to expect them to provide a nuanced, unbiased and evidence based perspective on mental health topics, so no shade to Joe lol My sibling has bipolar II and I was living with them during their first manic episode - they were an artist at the time and during that time they definitely made very compelling work. However during those nine months, they were sleeping 2-3 hours a night tops, going into enormous debt (which they are still paying off over TEN years later…), destroyed nearly all of their platonic and romantic relationships, contracted an STI, and spent so much of their time making art that they lost their day job. And the entire time, I just had to watch it happen, because my sibling just could not see what was so obvious to anyone who listened to their rambling for longer than five minutes. Then, just like that, they fell into a depressive episode so severe that they were catatonic. they didn’t speak for nearly a week. They were absolutely in danger of hurting themselves, and THAT is why treatment is so crucial. Medication AND some sort of therapy are the gold standard for these kinds of disorders- the efficacy for both goes wayyy down if you do not do them at the same time. It’s a LOT harder to participate in a therapy session if you’re manic or severely depressed. My sibling still struggles with adhering to their meds, just like everyone I’ve ever met with bipolar disorder.But that is one of the major things that they work on with their therapist- it’s a way of supporting someone who is trying to manage a serious chronic condition. Joe’s argument for not taking medication is one that I bet plays out in the mind of every person with bipolar disorder, because from what I hear, mania can feel pretty fucking nice at times. If you want to avoid the lowest lows you may also lose the highs that mania can make people feel. But it’s not about how good your music is during a manic episode, it’s a question of whether those episodes are getting in the way of your overall physical, mental and social health and wellbeing.
@@dssssssss169 Money doesn’t make you worth listening to. There’s justifying how Kanye acts due to his mental health, then theres claiming he’s operating on some other realm of thinking that we couldn’t possibly understand.
Kanye is SUPER Cool AND, BRILLIANT!! I did the hair for his epic Lost in the World 🌎 Music Video. He is super Nice! I wish that I could have gotten to talk with him about life. We both lost our Mothers tragically. I was blown away by FOCUS that he had! Blessings Joe Rogan!!! U are Brilliant!!!!
God, I love Kanye West. His 808 Album has a very big impact on my life. I was a freshman in college, away from my parents in a small African country. But his music saved me. His work made me realize the bigger life. I found friends, family and success. I now live in US, with two degrees (Computer and Aerospace) Engineering going for Masters in Aeronautical. Every time I see or hear about Kanye’s work all I have is the love of Christ. God bless Kanye, I’ll forever be indebted to you. Please don’t let people subdue you, they will alway keep talking but you will keep winning our hearts in the end. He’s the most misunderstood person in the US history.
"Most misunderstood person in US history"....Wow, we've found someone more insane than Kanye. No one called him crazy until he began doing/saying CRAZY shit!!
I dont understand how can they pretend that kanye is smart or sane. Of course sometimes he says something that makes sense. Even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.
I swear being called “Crazy” Is one of the biggest Pet peeves I have. Even hearing people around me saying it about others. We can’t expect people to Be medicated Down and fall in line No one would be original.
kanye when he was on the show, was so good. Their conversation was incredible. Kanye has great ideas, great intentions, great insights, etc, etc, etc. I could go on and on but, oh my kanye is a smart guy.
Bipolar (the illness Kanye is diagnosed with) is not a “stream of thinking” it is a mood disorder and it is not the reason he is good at music it is because he has talent and medication (the only remedy along with therapy) will not take that away
What joe probably doesn't understand is how far down that illness can take kanye, and how hard it can be for people around him to deal with him if not medicated. Mental illness is more complicated than the dichotomy crazy/normal. It comes and goes and happens gradually in many cases and, if it is not stopped in some way, things can get pretty rough. Although it's true that strong medication tends to inhibit creative process in many people, unfortunately progressing in your mental illness doesn't improve your creativity either, this has been proven. Creativity and mental illness are sometimes co-occuring, but when the mental illness gets too bad, the creative part is also jeopardized most of the time. There are several well known case, Syd Barrett and many others. A non-famous non-billionaire Kanye would by all means be considered 'crazy' and I'm pretty sure, if he wasn't treated he would get really really bad. There's a difference between being eccentric and quirky and slowly losing your mind, and Kanye west over the last few years seems to be falling under the latter category
Yes it will. Idk if you have ever taken bipolar meds, but it changes absolutely everything. Kanye, his family and his doctor can probably decide how serious it is.
Yes it absolutely can be destroyed. Either directly from the medication suppressing the best unique traits about the person taking it, OR (and this is even more common) because of the branding of it as “mental Illness”, the person takes a massive self esteem hit and thinks their positives are primarily negatives and never ends up discovering who they really are and how to use it for great things. This is rampant and something the medical community is just not wired to understand.
Some of his greatest albums came from his manic or depressive episodes and kanye has said multiple times that when hes on his meds it feels like somethings blocking his thoughts
Everyone saying “wow what a hypocrite. Weren’t you one of those people?” It’s like you watched half the video. His point on how people will take that one sentence or that one word from so long ago and decide that’s who you are. Joe has changed his opinion. Everyone over the course of time changes. Everyone trying to make Joe feel bad for what he said years ago are just showing what kind of a person they probably are. Do better guys, please. The world needs to heal and that type of energy you put out doesn’t help in the slightest.
“For what he said years ago” Get your facts straight he has said bad shit recently about Kanye, recently as in this year to be specific. He has said shit about Kanye enough times for it to become more insulting than just “a opinion”. ua-cam.com/video/ubZ7w58FNME/v-deo.html I want You to watch this and then come back and try and tell me “one word from so long ago and decide thats who you are” because thats completely bullshit.
@@Nyam_Souls Get out of your feelings. I saw that video awhile ago and nothing surprised me because he was just watching and getting information from biased media like almost everyone does, so I’m not surprised he thought that way and made dumb insulting comments like that. Doesn’t mean that his most recent statements on the podcast with Ye isn’t true. People can change and when they do, it’s the job of people like me who have changed to believe them and strive towards a better world. Chin up, no need to hate.
yeah that’s what people do when they are encountered with new information or ideas. it’s call being EDUCATED and a GROWTH MINDSET. you hold every opinion you have close to your heart? you never change?
@@Grimmcatz yea that’s the point. You really go out of your way to fight people and attack randoms online huh? You that bored? Nothing I said was attacking Joe. It was acknowledging his change. You need to grow up and understand the full situation before wasting energy lashing out at strangers online who are actually on the same team as you
Joe “I’m such a Kanye fan boi” Rogan. Kanye is nuts and at least needs medication for the award ceremonies. Let him wile out for 4 months when he’s making an album but get him back on that Lithium when he’s done!
Nice words by Joe here. Kanye does have great music and really does a great job tapping into emotions that we all share even if we have different experiences
Sorry to disagree with you but, Kayne was a financial mess before he got involved with the Kardashian clan. Now the fact he was a financial mess doesnt mean he's not great at what he does.
Kanye did not come from nothing. His parents were both college educated. He lived stateside and overseas. He did not have the poor black experience. And this not dismissing him. But let's not create bullshit narratives.
@@drubert1981 yeah but his father wasn’t a part of his early life, and he’s a self made billionaire. That’s what I mean by from nothing. If a person created 1 billion dollars in value they know what they’re doing.
@@SDB3ASTIN none - which makes sense seeing as I didn't run for President🤦♂️ And I also didn't go on the worlds biggest podcast claiming that God chose me😂 think Kanye forgot about something called voting and democracy 😬
There's this clip from a few years back and he's chatting to the host and when he talks about running for president the crowd chuckles, obviously, and he goes why yall laughing. No anger or nothing he just couldn't see the humour in a musician being president, his egos completely out of whack
It's funny because I vividly remember Joe being one of those people...
Then he met the person and understood him more
@@LMGBB. ong this man does not understand
@@LMGBB. oooorrrrrr...... He's fake
That’s the great thing about joe, he has no bias and can change his opinions about things/people after learning more
Whoa dude here's a crazy idea, it's almost like he spoke to him, changed his opinion, and now feels differently and is saying so. Fucking weird, right?
Wasn't Joe one of those people who called Kanye crazy?
He's got a black belt in coat turning
ppl can change their opinion. i’m guessing he didn’t know him that well back then
@@NaturalHypertrophy LMAOO bro I did not know you watch rogan, much love and keep up the great content
He was mate
Ye himself said name one genius that ain’t crazy
“Joe Rogan on people who call Kanye West crazy” Joe referring to himself a year ago
Yeah but he ain't loco. Just sayin as I shrug.
*You can’t take anything joe says seriously he back tracks on all his opinions and holds no true beliefs, it’s annoying but it’s one of the reasons why it’s the best talk show of all time*
@@goldtiger9453
That may be true or not, but there's a fine line between backtracking, legitimately and genuinely having a change of mind or heart, and trying to be hospitable to guests so as to get them to be comfortable and open up. Joe is human just like the rest of us, and especially if he's constantly having all different kinds of guests on its understandable that he would change his mind more frequently than someone whose social media and youtube recommendations allign with their views and don't have to give multiple voices the benefit of the doubt for example. And Joe is definitely not a grifter for anyone who thinks that.
Alex Jones is also sane by Rogan standards
@@dungeon-wn4gw we are all human but joe is the most extreme version of this , I’ve never seen anyone hold so many contradictory opinions at once.
I imagine HELL being like a 4 hour car ride with Kanye talking about himself... while i have to pee and he keeps missing the exits.
Lmaooo so tru
Oh jesus
LMAO
That’d be pretty cool tbh
@@pluto7449 you would do well in a cult... good luck.
Joe “I’ve always been a fan of his music” Rogan
Joe “the comedy store” rogan
Joe “I refuse to accept Shapiro is a goofball” rogan
Mhhhh?
Joe like Kanye's music but has no clue what a hip-hop cypher is ..... interesting
To be fair Joe listens to everyone it seems that comes on like he talked about listening to Hardwire and I’m sure he listens to Tool already
Joe really out here pretending like he didn’t call Kanye crazy
why you gotta do our boy Meliodas like that
@@NaturalHypertrophy Right? 😂
Maybe 2 years ago before they really met
You know you can change your opinion on someone right?
I called Kanye crazy until I listened to more in-depth interviews. He’s not crazy, he just has so many different ideas running through his head that it makes it difficult for him to communicate.
Dude even Kanye west thinks Kanye west’s crazy
He says himself he has bipolar, his wife says it, I assume his doctors say it, so I dunno what the fuck Joe is getting on with. Trying to "normalize" bipolar isn't helpful to anyone.
"Name one genius that ain't crazy"
Sup! If you are a real Kanye fan you gotta listen to this unreleased original draft Kanye West made for the track 'Stronger' in 2004. You gonna thank me later! ua-cam.com/video/Mqk3hEGlVmc/v-deo.html
Does kanye think that kanye thinks that kanye is kanye?
@@jasp42 i was gonna type it if you didn’t lol
Fact: Tom Green is the reason Joe Rogan started a podcast.
Facts.
Opie and Anthony ( Anthony Cumia specifically) were a bigger influence.
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"Running for president" that's crazy!
Stares saying no. Goes back to fiddling in my hobbies alone as bad luck brian voiced meme on fox news is the immature one.
According to modern culture, it's the move of a "genius..."
Come on is it really that crazy
It isnt anymore
Crazy as Trump.
Anyone can run for President. It’s really not that crazy. The point is that the people vote and If people find him crazy then they won’t vote for him
Joe “I love all his music but can’t name an album” rogan
lolz
Joe didn't watch the last dance either lol
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@@JC-km5xw somehow, your joke was even worse than mine
Lol people acting like meeting someone in real life and talking to them for hours can't change your opinion of them
Yeah but it’s how he said it. Difference in changing your opinion about somewhere and being disrespectful and changing your opinion.
He should acknowledge it though
But he didn't even acknowledge it though
He didn't have to meet him to come to that conclusion. I don't get the obsession with kanye from older white men. They're constantly trying to slander him and Joe is one of them. He CONSTANTLY talked bad about kanye on his podcast, there's even an entire montage of him doing it. He insulted him and his wife MULTIPLE times.
Was just thinking this bro. But we have to get the people who are commenting that shit sit on their ass all day and live to criticize people on the internet.
Guys.. Yes he's called kanye crazy in the past but then he actually met him in real life and talked to him for hours and changed his mind on how he felt about him after he actually met him in person. It's not that weird really.
@Mini Bike Morgan I meant its not that weird for someone to change their mind on someone after getting to know them but everyone's commenting like it's the craziest thing to ever happen. And its not hypocritical for someone to change their mind on someone after meeting them in person. Quite the opposite actually. And wow there's always that one person that has to make it political. Geez its like you people cant think of anything else besides politics. I feel bad for you, anyway enjoy the rest of your day
....wow
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Hahaha! It's called getting to know someone or learning not to judge them too harshly. Joe Rogan can change his mind just like we all do.
@Mini Bike Morgan being a hypocrite is claiming beliefs while actively contradicting them... what joe did was change his mind, that's actually a completely different thing...
@Mini Bike Morgan wtf does that have to do with anything? Anyone can move where they want, it has nothing to do with their political affiliation smh. Also California is fucked, they'll destroy themselves soon if they don't change
"I've always been a fan of his music" hmmmm I'm calling CAPPPPPPP
Idk they’ve talked about RTJ on the podcast before
captain america died in the last avengers movie he won't pick up sorry
🧢
Cap for sure
He wasnt lying tho, kayne hasn't ever had a dud album.
This aged well…
lmfao
Yeah actually it kinda did, this applies pretty well to what ye's been whacking out about
I dont get it. can you explain ?
@@Ren1kaljust missing the creative side😂
Fucking lol!
Well this aged well lol
Joe is literally a person who called him crazy LMFAOO
You literally like literally don't know how to use "literally" like oh my god like literally LM
FAOO.
Focus on the present mate
He panders sadly, he has his podcast now and is a household name now, he has to side with big celebs to protect his brand and he unfortunately sucks up to a lot of people and changes his perspective on things every 12 seconds and I was a big fan of his show for YEARS but he became just another sell out
"literally a person" holy fuck
@@marcywiththegoodhair4365 Or you're just putting him in to a box. The very thing he said in this video. He clearly changed his mind after speaking to him. People are supposed to be fluid with their opinions and Rogan is good like that. When was the last time you spent 3 hours with someone you thought was a prick because you saw them do something for 10 seconds that you didn't like? For example, if I was to go by only your comment alone, I could say you're quick to judge people you know little about (Joe Rogan in this case). But I'd bet I'm wrong about you. I'm sure you're more complicated than the poor opinion you've just espoused.
"You want manic crazy..." Says no one who has ever had a bipolar family member lol
dude for real.
It's the biggest blessing and biggest curse at the same time. If you can harness the creative flow and neverending energy of the hypomanic phase it can benefit you greatly. The problem is that it doesn't last and either go to full-blown mania or depression.
This is what I've been saying about Kanye. Rogan is fortunate enough to have no idea what people like Kanye are REALLY like. He's off the rocker
He's not saying being crazy and manic is a good thing, he's saying this "crazy and manic version" of kanye that people portray him to be is the exact kanye that made him wealthy and famous. Joe rogan is just defending kanye, not all people with mental illness. If kanye was so mentally ill that he needed medication, how has he been able to succeed and do so many things competently in his life. Sure he may struggle with some form of mental illness but he's clearly not dangerous to himself or anyone around him.
@@brillbillbutstill ur just projecting ur own life experiences on to him
I distinctly remember Rogan calling Kanye "Bat shit crazy" is the term he used.
Have you seen this clip of Kanye? Joe calls him crazy! ua-cam.com/video/FHDvR1X8Kso/v-deo.html 😂
GoNZO well that’s why he said people misunderstand Kanye didn’t he? Or maybe I’m crazy as well 😂🤷🏻♂️
And then he met him in real life and talked with him for a few hours and changed his mind about him once he got to actually talk to him. Not that weird really
@@clementine2234 Didn't say it was weird, just said he did it. The point was he is talking about the type of people that call others "crazy" and just dismiss them. Rogan was one of those people.
Opinions evolve
The person's perspective from a day ago a month ago or a year ago can change in a matter of the instance by understanding the situation that is not understood initially. Joe has helped me with all the people who came on his podcast see a better light of an individual when they're able to speak freely on the topic where my opinion was somewhat different than theirs
ping pong
Kanye is diagnosed bipolar and his podcast appearance confirmed the accuracy of that diagnosis. One hundred percent. The point of medicating bipolar disorder, aside from creating a calmer and more well-adjusted human being, is also because left untreated those manic characteristics can be dangerous.
Also causes brain damage and dementia
And it can lead to a downward spiral quick. They’re just as impulsive manic as they are depressed so you can imagine what happens when they go down hill.
This is the new “LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE”
Nigga what. Lol
@@WisconsinChillin414 lmaooo
Naw this the new John Lennon
No
@@WisconsinChillin414 ua-cam.com/video/WqSTXuJeTks/v-deo.html
It’s an internet classic lol
I think when he says people like to categorize others and put them in a box, he's included himself in there too. He's guilty of it as well and understands he's human, but what's admirable about Joe is the fact that he can quickly admit when he knows he's wrong and adjusts his opinion about someone or something accordingly. That alone is a major contributing factor to why his podcast is so successful and entertaining.
You hit the nail on the head.
"It's important to be open minded, it's also important to not be so open minded your brain falls out"
“Name one genius that ain’t crazy” is literally a line off of Feedback
The ultimate gemini has survived
off " feedback"
@@soufianem4345 You’re right. I must have been thinking about “this generation’s closest thing to Einstein” from Saint Pablo when I wrote that.
@@mightkilljacksome1487 so you’re saying that ghostwriters are responsible for Kanye’s first 6 studio albums revolutionizing hip hop and inspiring so many artists to adopt Kanye’s style?
@@mightkilljacksome1487 bro every single artist gets help with their writing. Kanye does have some great bars, but it's his production that made his career, not his lyrics. The guy has 9 studio albums, all of which are sonically unique, and many of which took risks and went against the hip hop norm from a production standpoint.
I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and cluster b personality disorder. Calling people "crazy" just because they think differently makes you an asshole. He takes care of his family, he creates, he gets involved in community. What is so bad about him?
Why does everyone have to fit in a stupid box to make other people feel more comfortable? If anyone dares to stand out, they *must* be medicated until they fall back in line with the mindless masses. I can pretend to be like everyone else if I must, but why must we?
Because he is influential and potentially dangerous, especially if he gets elected. Use your head mate.
@@MideanStone
What a terrifyingly dystopian way to think.
I know but, who's putting Kanye in office?
Psychology is still in this weird place between science and pseudo-science. Trying to categorise all sorts of interconnected phenomenas from an incomplete map of the human psychology without having a complete picture of all the environmental/genetic factors that might come in play. Focusing too much on the symptoms instead of the potential external causes of these things.
Take for instance the high prevalence of kids getting diagnosed with ADHD and put on medication. Instead of wondering if the environment we put them into might cause these symptoms, we conclude that the children themselves are what's wrong and need to be fixed and medicated.
very so damn true, STUPID people will always fear smart people , this is a dude that actually plans what he sets his mind too and crazy ppl can't put things together or think on a deep level like this.
You were the first one to call him crazy homie. You’ve been talking nonsense lately
Because Joe Rogan is sold out now. He says what he is supposed tho. money talks..
@@henrihyvari4114 _He says what he is supposed to_
You really think Joe Rogan's brain is capable of that?
Dicey, dicey.
Lately? Where you been,?
@@gonzothegreat1317 🤣🤣 this shit had me so weak bro
@@henrihyvari4114 Joe has always been fake. More people are just starting to see through it now.
I remember him talking shit to an expert and ridiculing her while he was spewing nonsense on a radio show. I remember him being a dick to a lot of people and now he's all ''lets be nice'' while he tries to sell you ONNIT.
And? It’s crazy to be a self-made billionaire. Crazy is good.
@a wo Sounds envious
@a wo yeah you’re just another person who has no drive to do anything in life.
is he really a billionaire? what from?
@a wo While using using youtube and watching podcasts that came out of capitalistic endeavors. Grow up
TJ Gray not at alllll lol
Most people call people "crazy" they don't understand
Homeless guy throwing this own shit. Joe Rogan “ He’s a complicated genius”
That was beautiful “he probably doesn’t like what he said either”, that’s how I feel. I embarrassment and regret common and okay. It’s how you grow.
Have you seen this clip of Kanye? Joe calls him crazy! ua-cam.com/video/FHDvR1X8Kso/v-deo.html
How many times does it take though? He doesn’t learn from any of his embarrassment. He just makes more cringe
@@kayvee5286 your life is cringe
@@kayvee5286 A hater on UA-cam? no way.
@@workwork7022 you know me so well
name one genius that ain’t crazy
Crazy becomes visionary or pioneer as time goes
@@PivotMania Bill Gates, Hans Zimmer, Dave Chappelle. Kanye is clearly not very intelligent. And btw intelligence doesn't mean success, if that was the case, teachers, scientist, intellectuals would be billionaires but they're not. Kanye happens to sell a product that is very lucrative and that's it.
@@xD3MONxIxSOULx 🤨
@@xD3MONxIxSOULx So, you are saying Kanyes music lacks creativity? You're not that bright yourself
@@MysteryMouseketool If that's what your little brain understood, sure.
"Name one genius who aint crazy " - Kanye
Einstein. Tesla. Sagan. Musk....
@@Tikimohn tesla was batshit are u kidding?
@Blood Eagle he was in love with a pigeon
@@dwaynetrain8817 well then he still named more than one non-crazy genius
Awwww did they eventually tie the knot?
When people see things they cannot comprehend,or beyond their thought process,people call it crazy rather than understand it,geniuses are always called crazy until we catch up with them
Mhm 💯 on point, well said, take me for example. ppl always been sayin i belong in a nuthouse my whole life
Sure..definitely...but that doesn't apply to Kanye. The mf does not have an IQ of 160+. He's a very talented music producer, apart from that, he's fkn koo koo insane!
nah, Kanye is crazy
@@vukgrujic2957 and why?
Yikes this aged so well
govbot
Kanye didn’t go crazy, Kanye went Kanye.
Kanye went West
pray for me i just the ye button
Kany woke . He knew the music industry was involved with illuminati or devil worshipper
Having the Jones vs Tyson fight advertised on Joe’s shirt is marketing genius.
or he just wears whatever he wants
Wow. Didn't even notice until i read your comment
Is there any kind of marketing genius? Didn't even notice
How is that genius?
@@James-dm8cx cause he gets millions of views every day...
This clip should be titled “Joe Rogan on Joe Rogan”
" They ain't crazy, they don't know how Insanity feels" - Kanye.
" I never live in fear, I'm too outta my mind "
I think Kanye knows his crazy but a genius at the same time, he doesn't let that degrade him and feel less of himself. As a person with social anxiety , he gives me alot of hope.
Good luck bto
I bet Joe would talk about him differently now
This didn't age well...
To everyone who says “well joe said this...called him this...blah blah blah”. Only a fool wouldn’t change their opinion when new information comes to light. He met the man. Calm down.
If you put a sane man into a psych ward, he will go crazy trying to convince them to release him because he isn’t crazy..
Completely irrelevant
If you put a sane person in a psych ward they realize they just have to lie til they get to go back home and have a normal life again
@@toastedt140 Facts
This has aged like bread soaked in milk
Joe has officially declared himself a “crazy hypocrite”
You’ve never changed your opinion of someone after having met them ? Or are you one of those jre haters who seems to always be in the comment section of his videos?
Because he changed his mind?
Its not hypocrite but yes he did call him crazy before. He didnt know as much as he does now because they really talked. We don't know shit about kanye we know what people tell us its like Trump and Biden . Joe need to get Trump on the show after he get removed. We need to know about these fraud because obviously someone did something who it is idk but there is something messed up
Wtf is wrong with you. So if you feel a certain way once in your life you HAVE to feel that way for the rest of your life? Wtf is wrong with you nut cases
Have you seen this clip of Kanye? Joe calls him crazy! ua-cam.com/video/FHDvR1X8Kso/v-deo.html 😂 😂
After that podcast how can you not think Kanye's crazy 😂
He’s a genius
@@robertchristensen9949 he's still crazy. Dude literally has bipolar. You are all in denial.
If it hasn’t been proven then no he doesn’t have bipolar. Don’t assume. Everyone has there own way of talking. Stop having these dumb standards that because someone talks differently or has a different opinion they’re crazy. Cause they’re not.
@@robertchristensen9949 :nah.Only in america 😂
@@johnboy6420 have you seen his runaway film?
Every album is completely different. He’s always innovating it’s beautiful!
Lmao.his last 2 albums been absolute trash stop
@@brynlpz83 ye was an amazing album. You’re so wild bro. Also he made Midas see ghosts, and that’s one the albums of the decade easily.
Kids*
@@copticconcept that's one album from this decade, you are correct...
Still....doesn't mean he isn't mental! Mozart was crazy...Picasso cut his fkn ear off. True artists are most often....CRAZY FKN PEOPLE!
I think it's really easy to say that someone shouldn't be taking medication for being bipolar when you've only been around them for a couple of hours. You have no idea what can happen when someone is in a manic state, or a depressed state when they are bipolar. I'm not saying that everyone who is bipolar is a danger to themselves or others, but we have no idea what that looks like behind closed doors for him when he's with his family. I'm sure that the medication would have some effect on his creativity, and he has decided it's not worth it, but I doubt his family always feels the same all the time.
Fast forward 2 years... yeah, this dude should be hooked up to Lithium IV 24/7.
NEVER take medical advice from Joe Rogan my dudes. He's not a doctor.
Totally agree, was surprised more ppl didn’t say that in the comments… you hit the nail on the head though! If you only interact with someone during a manic episode then of course it’s hard to see why someone would prescribe mood stabilizers! I do find these kinds of convos tough bc I don’t think anyone, not even Kanye, should have to make a major medical decision while being constantly scrutinized by the international media and the general public. Unfortunately it means that a lot of stigma and misinformation can get spread as well, even if done unintentionally. It’s a lot to ask of our podcast hosts to expect them to provide a nuanced, unbiased and evidence based perspective on mental health topics, so no shade to Joe lol
My sibling has bipolar II and I was living with them during their first manic episode - they were an artist at the time and during that time they definitely made very compelling work. However during those nine months, they were sleeping 2-3 hours a night tops, going into enormous debt (which they are still paying off over TEN years later…), destroyed nearly all of their platonic and romantic relationships, contracted an STI, and spent so much of their time making art that they lost their day job. And the entire time, I just had to watch it happen, because my sibling just could not see what was so obvious to anyone who listened to their rambling for longer than five minutes. Then, just like that, they fell into a depressive episode so severe that they were catatonic. they didn’t speak for nearly a week. They were absolutely in danger of hurting themselves, and THAT is why treatment is so crucial. Medication AND some sort of therapy are the gold standard for these kinds of disorders- the efficacy for both goes wayyy down if you do not do them at the same time. It’s a LOT harder to participate in a therapy session if you’re manic or severely depressed. My sibling still struggles with adhering to their meds, just like everyone I’ve ever met with bipolar disorder.But that is one of the major things that they work on with their therapist- it’s a way of supporting someone who is trying to manage a serious chronic condition.
Joe’s argument for not taking medication is one that I bet plays out in the mind of every person with bipolar disorder, because from what I hear, mania can feel pretty fucking nice at times. If you want to avoid the lowest lows you may also lose the highs that mania can make people feel. But it’s not about how good your music is during a manic episode, it’s a question of whether those episodes are getting in the way of your overall physical, mental and social health and wellbeing.
He is crazy, understanding him doesn't mean your smart. Don't over think it
@@dssssssss169 And you were here defending a millionaire??? Have some self reflection please
@@dssssssss169 Money doesn’t make you worth listening to. There’s justifying how Kanye acts due to his mental health, then theres claiming he’s operating on some other realm of thinking that we couldn’t possibly understand.
Love you Joe but there’s like 8 clips of you saying he’s out of his mind lol
Kanye is SUPER Cool AND, BRILLIANT!!
I did the hair for his epic Lost in the World 🌎 Music Video.
He is super Nice!
I wish that I could have gotten to talk with him about life.
We both lost our Mothers tragically.
I was blown away by FOCUS that he had!
Blessings Joe Rogan!!!
U are Brilliant!!!!
you can be gifted, well spoken, and crazy at once. they aren’t mutually exclusive attributes. dude IS pretty fuckin crazy
God, I love Kanye West. His 808 Album has a very big impact on my life. I was a freshman in college, away from my parents in a small African country. But his music saved me. His work made me realize the bigger life. I found friends, family and success. I now live in US, with two degrees (Computer and Aerospace) Engineering going for Masters in Aeronautical. Every time I see or hear about Kanye’s work all I have is the love of Christ. God bless Kanye, I’ll forever be indebted to you. Please don’t let people subdue you, they will alway keep talking but you will keep winning our hearts in the end. He’s the most misunderstood person in the US history.
Cringe
"Most misunderstood person in US history"....Wow, we've found someone more insane than Kanye.
No one called him crazy until he began doing/saying CRAZY shit!!
I dont understand how can they pretend that kanye is smart or sane. Of course sometimes he says something that makes sense. Even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day.
Lol he is a musical genius. End of story, even the industry respects it.
People who call Kanye West crazy are logical human beings.
It's logical to label people with vague words that don't even describe their actual thought process? 😂
Anyone challenges the powerful elites is crazy!
I swear being called “Crazy” Is one of the biggest Pet peeves I have. Even hearing people around me saying it about others. We can’t expect people to Be medicated Down and fall in line No one would be original.
Hell of a life is my favorite Kanye Song..
Drive slow is my fav
great song. underrated.
Devil in a new dress
idk why hell of a life is so underrated
“Crazy” is my favorite Kanye song
Joe "Every noise that I'm capable of making I've made" Rogan.
Have you seen this clip of Kanye? Joe calls him crazy! ua-cam.com/video/FHDvR1X8Kso/v-deo.html 😂
Brendan: "omg i know, you made the mostest lut you balls in my mouth"
"This guy is fucking crazy"
"Why you shouldn't call Kanye crazy"
I'm from future, Kanye IS crazy
prove it. who wins the 2024 election? who wins the 2022 world cup?
@@pablolloyd1450 not him lol
Please don’t listen to people like this.
Taking care of your mental health is not an inhibitor on your creativity, but believing it is will be.
Yes people should take care of any mental illness, but medicine isn't always the answer.
People on average geniuenlly dont make good art when they are happy content and normal. They make it while suffering.
@@MrFrankEast People make art about conflict, you don't have to be currently suffering to talk about the things you've suffered through.
There’s a fine line between brilliance and insanity...Kanye flirts with that!
I think the best people do.
The only difference is that kanye is fully aware he's doing it.
MTV | Politics | Pied Piper | Battle for hearts & minds ua-cam.com/video/a71IvRm9Uiw/v-deo.html ?dfg6
Kanye got Bipolar. I know his struggle, it’s real.
I'd love to hear what these two think of Kanye now.
lol after watching a bunch of Joe Rogan clips I started getting hair loss advertisements
kanye when he was on the show, was so good. Their conversation was incredible. Kanye has great ideas, great intentions, great insights, etc, etc, etc. I could go on and on but, oh my kanye is a smart guy.
Bipolar (the illness Kanye is diagnosed with) is not a “stream of thinking” it is a mood disorder and it is not the reason he is good at music it is because he has talent and medication (the only remedy along with therapy) will not take that away
Kanye has said word for word that his worst regret is not seeing himself live on stage
What joe probably doesn't understand is how far down that illness can take kanye, and how hard it can be for people around him to deal with him if not medicated.
Mental illness is more complicated than the dichotomy crazy/normal.
It comes and goes and happens gradually in many cases and, if it is not stopped in some way, things can get pretty rough.
Although it's true that strong medication tends to inhibit creative process in many people, unfortunately progressing in your mental illness doesn't improve your creativity either, this has been proven.
Creativity and mental illness are sometimes co-occuring, but when the mental illness gets too bad, the creative part is also jeopardized most of the time.
There are several well known case, Syd Barrett and many others.
A non-famous non-billionaire Kanye would by all means be considered 'crazy' and I'm pretty sure, if he wasn't treated he would get really really bad.
There's a difference between being eccentric and quirky and slowly losing your mind, and Kanye west over the last few years seems to be falling under the latter category
Who remembers when people thought Joe rogan was a genius and never wrong lmao
Yes joe, you do need to medicate if it's serious. The creative process isn't going to be destroyed if he's stable.
Yes it will. Idk if you have ever taken bipolar meds, but it changes absolutely everything. Kanye, his family and his doctor can probably decide how serious it is.
Yes it absolutely can be destroyed. Either directly from the medication suppressing the best unique traits about the person taking it, OR (and this is even more common) because of the branding of it as “mental Illness”, the person takes a massive self esteem hit and thinks their positives are primarily negatives and never ends up discovering who they really are and how to use it for great things. This is rampant and something the medical community is just not wired to understand.
Some of his greatest albums came from his manic or depressive episodes and kanye has said multiple times that when hes on his meds it feels like somethings blocking his thoughts
Everyone saying “wow what a hypocrite. Weren’t you one of those people?”
It’s like you watched half the video. His point on how people will take that one sentence or that one word from so long ago and decide that’s who you are. Joe has changed his opinion. Everyone over the course of time changes. Everyone trying to make Joe feel bad for what he said years ago are just showing what kind of a person they probably are. Do better guys, please. The world needs to heal and that type of energy you put out doesn’t help in the slightest.
“For what he said years ago”
Get your facts straight he has said bad shit recently about Kanye, recently as in this year to be specific. He has said shit about Kanye enough times for it to become more insulting than just “a opinion”. ua-cam.com/video/ubZ7w58FNME/v-deo.html I want
You to watch this and then come back and try and tell me “one word from so long ago and decide thats who you are” because thats completely bullshit.
@@Nyam_Souls Get out of your feelings. I saw that video awhile ago and nothing surprised me because he was just watching and getting information from biased media like almost everyone does, so I’m not surprised he thought that way and made dumb insulting comments like that. Doesn’t mean that his most recent statements on the podcast with Ye isn’t true. People can change and when they do, it’s the job of people like me who have changed to believe them and strive towards a better world. Chin up, no need to hate.
@@Mrdlt_ its okay to forgive, but not to forget. Joe himself seems to have forgotten that he was one of the people talking shit.
Tom is OG... love how the back and forths between you two go ...
he ain't crazy he just has a huge ego
Joe “Kanye west is crazy” Rogan is changing up his opinion
yeah that’s what people do when they are encountered with new information or ideas. it’s call being EDUCATED and a GROWTH MINDSET. you hold every opinion you have close to your heart? you never change?
@@Grimmcatz Never!
@@Grimmcatz yea that’s the point. You really go out of your way to fight people and attack randoms online huh? You that bored? Nothing I said was attacking Joe. It was acknowledging his change. You need to grow up and understand the full situation before wasting energy lashing out at strangers online who are actually on the same team as you
I appreciate Joe stickin up for his friends.
If my memory is as good as I think
*I remember Joe saying the exact same thing as the people who are calling Kanye crazy*
Kanye West is a genius. Haters always mad. Name one genius who ain't been called crazy? Kanye will go down as a legend.
Kanye is crazy.
He's also a genius.
It is recent, that people forgot puritanical restraint and conformity is antithetical to genius.
Not now later.
Joe “I’m such a Kanye fan boi” Rogan. Kanye is nuts and at least needs medication for the award ceremonies. Let him wile out for 4 months when he’s making an album but get him back on that Lithium when he’s done!
Nice words by Joe here. Kanye does have great music and really does a great job tapping into emotions that we all share even if we have different experiences
this didn't age well
Kanye, IMO, is an artist. There’s a lot of entertainers out here and seemingly few ARTISTS.
I'm curious what was kanye's reaction when joe was clowning kim's fake ass..lol
Oh shit I forgot about that
Kanye's not crazy, he's a Gemini
lmfao that had a manic episode He is crazy.
Joe is so gullible
It‘a strange how we call someone else “Crazy” For being themselves. If no one were to be their Own Person Then we wouldn’t have originality. ❤️
this aged like milk.
Kanye came from nothing. He’s not crazy, he knows what he’s doing. Yeezy, the newest billion dollar baby
Sorry to disagree with you but, Kayne was a financial mess before he got involved with the Kardashian clan. Now the fact he was a financial mess doesnt mean he's not great at what he does.
He's certifiable
Kanye did not come from nothing. His parents were both college educated. He lived stateside and overseas. He did not have the poor black experience. And this not dismissing him. But let's not create bullshit narratives.
@@drubert1981 Jesus dude your expectations for this man is fucking incredible, also nice of you to tell HIM what the poor black experience is
@@drubert1981 yeah but his father wasn’t a part of his early life, and he’s a self made billionaire. That’s what I mean by from nothing. If a person created 1 billion dollars in value they know what they’re doing.
Joe Rogan so fake for this lol that Spotify money must hit different
Have you seen this clip of Kanye? Joe calls him crazy! ua-cam.com/video/FHDvR1X8Kso/v-deo.html
Crazy is a compliment.
You know Rohan is right. I don’t like Kanye but I only know him from small clips. I am going to give it a shot
deffo start on MBDTF, changed my perspective on him forever tbh
rohan
He has plenty of ridiculous interview moments but there's a lot of moments that really show he's not as dumb as people think he is.
His interview with Rogan changed my mind entirely. Very intelligent, very cool.
Good
The guy said "God has chosen me to be President" and then got less than 100,000 votes 😂😂🤦♂️
how many votes you get?
@@SDB3ASTIN enough to also be chosen by god and become president
@@SDB3ASTIN none - which makes sense seeing as I didn't run for President🤦♂️ And I also didn't go on the worlds biggest podcast claiming that God chose me😂 think Kanye forgot about something called voting and democracy 😬
Joe: Kanye West is nuts and craaazy!
Brendan: I agree.
Joe: Kanye is a genius!
Brendan: A huuuuundred percent!!!
Are the 2 mutually exclusive
everyone saying "joe talked shit about kanye before" is just proving his point lmao. joe never understand kanye till he met him.
There's this clip from a few years back and he's chatting to the host and when he talks about running for president the crowd chuckles, obviously, and he goes why yall laughing. No anger or nothing he just couldn't see the humour in a musician being president, his egos completely out of whack
Joe “Spotify” Rogan showing his most Spotify self in this one
Geniuses never ever refer to themselves as a genius, it cancels it out
Kanye is a genius ❤️
I agree
Joe “I change my opinions depending on the guest” Rogan
He understands him more now.
"he probably doesn't like what he said either." Exactly