@samsausagehead99 Yup, she was inserted for SISP which was to cover RH's indefinite exit but I felt that s/l would've been silly because Todd would've found a way home (which is what happened in the rewrite). We're just saying, SISP didn't need to happen for drama, another s/l with relevant characters would've worked. Yes, the rebound sex (a miracle in itself) allowed for the possibility of a TnT child & without SISP, Dani wouldn't exist, but that really wouldn't be any kind of loss for me...lol
@Rosannasfriend YES!! Tea's always thrust rather abruptly and awkwardly into story lines. I never understood why FL was brought in to facilitate RH's exit because SISP was an utterly unbelievable explanation of Todd's long term absence. He was madly in love with Blair and nothing would have kept him from his kids. Thank God RH signed on for more and we got the Tea-as-a-rebound-that-makes-Todd-realize-he-needs-to-paddle-home- to-Blair s/l. But still...I so coulda done without the Tea...
Ill get to kdp as i aggree live she was given the hardest material & blew everyone away. Not even an emmy nomination. Rh is & at a very young age when he started on the show a powerhouse actor. Head writer malone screwed up just using him to prop martys story first as a frat boy classmate she took home for a one night stand it was just to show how lonely & low marty had sunk. Then she kisses todd only to reject him. Their was this weird back & forth of marty trashing him or hitting on him. U never got a rape vibe from him just clumsy obsessive on marty & then malone took a hard left & made todd the leader of a gang rape! All to redeem marty. Anyway my point is , roger can & did do everything & its criminal he never won more emmys. Hes such a great reactive actor as well. Which they say is the best part of acting. Plus his hunour facial expressions which malone finally credited rh for having these reactions that werent even directed he had such a gift for saying something than w/ those facial expressiins showing about 10 different emotions. To the point kdp got robbed a lot. This show going live was revolutionary at that time as soaps were always taped w/ rehearsal etc. Kdp deservedcan emmy for this. I mean rh & kdp are so good together as they really are so so natural onscreen rh knew this was kdps momemt & he doesnt step on it at all. He pretty much doesnt show much reaction. U know he has hated himself for this hated he gave a baby away ( which is so out of charactee for todd as they showed way back in early 94 his love for kids starting w/ cj & sarah. So for todd to give any baby away i mean knowing todd i think he snapped once his mortal enemies child came. But how they had him say to david when he said " ill get him a good home" todd saying " good home bad home band of gypsies dont care " its just not todd. That child could have been sold on the black market god knows where. At least david it seems got him a decent home but b/c he went to a wealthy woman but that guy buck really seemed to love the baby & he had a nice home a nanny & jack wasnt harmed. The point is todd who was devastated that victor lord dumped him off ( yes victor knew he was his son ) but todd still was crushed & went on how horrible it was that victor dumped him in an abusive home w/ his adopted dad peter. Todd again loved all kids. So i really feel kdp got the toughest material during live week & knocked it out of the park. The way shes able to cry like that i always thought she was one of the best criers on tv along w/ jonathan jackson who racked up a bunch of emmys. Steve burton as well when called to cry those blue eyes get bloodshot. He even won an emmy on gh for a scene where he sobs. JJ as well when playing drunk & sobbing when confronting his wife & brother about cheating he won an emmy. But kdp is sobbing live & had the toughest part learning all the happiness she thought she finally had the perfect husband family children was all just shattered & she has to confront the man she has married 3x knows her daughter will be cryshed basically her family is over & of coutse she is madly in love w/ todd & hes always had her under some hold or spell b/c i think he does make blair feel safe & secure & she does know hes been a wonderful dad & husband during all 3 marriages. I mean she hust blew this away. Even the part where she throws todd out & is just lying like a zombie on the stairs is amazing.
@@nattyps3160 WONDERFUL HUSBAND during all 3 marriages?? Todd's just spent months lying to her and has hurt her terribly. She's obviously devastated that he could hurt her that way. Their 1st marriage included the threat of rape and manhandling of her with actual bruising. Their 2nd marriage he punished her daily without telling her why and then kidnapped Starr. And here we are in the 3rd marriage and he has done something close to unforgivable. He can be a good husband but then he does something really bad. Blair certainly doesn't rush back for more after this! It takes her awhile and he resorts to a scam to get her back more quickly. Then, in 2011, she's wary of him and actually chooses Tomas until Todd has Tomas kidnapped. (Note: One area of total agreement: KDP is awesome here!!)
6:20... Blair: you must think im the stupidest eprson in the whole world Todd: no. I think youre a little emotional maybe holy hell. how did he have the nerve to say that?! im so impressed blair didnt strangle him right there
A lot of todd fans hated how he was from about late 01 to 03. He was so goofy. He was way more deep & serious & mature in 95 when he was younger. This happens to characters. If u watched Tina played by andrea she was much more in control not ditsy & shrewd. She always had a heart for viki but she was not the air head she became even played by andrea. By the time krista played her at the end she was just stupid & everyone around her called her variations of stupid brain dead ditz & idiot. That was not the Tina I just watched in 85 with mitch. She wasn't an Airhead more a little immature bc of her young Age but she was know airhead. She also got right up in asa & Dorian's faces & was tough. David Vickers in 94 was a very serious character not the total goofball he became later. It's like these characters get less mature & stupider as they age. As for two characters that they wasted in making them over the top crazy & evil were mitch & maria Robert's, cords mom. As I said I was watching mitch & tina in 85 & mitch was just a grifter. Greedy conman but he was charming , handsome & not evil just out for money. Then as the 80s went on he started that cult, he murdered some guy & tried to rape cassie. Dorian " killed him " mitch could have been a good character for years. Maria Roberts was pretty normal. She did not like her son with Tina bc she saw she was a schemer. She was great when she did not go pycho killer. She was the one who introduced max holden. She paid him off to seduce Tina away from cord. Her fights with Tina are iconic. Then they had her go off the deep end & die. What a waste. She reminded me in her battles with viki very much of Dorian. She was def q character that could have caused trouble in llainview for years. She had ties to the show. Her son cord & grandkids & I could have seen her & clint when viki went with sloan.
Blair is so upset that Todd could hurt her this badly! He hopes he can talk his way into keeping her but he's utterly delusional. She doesn't give a second's thought to staying. Even though I love TnB I"m glad. He's showing little remorse. After awhile, he wants her back so desperately that he cooks up the crazy and ill fated Mafia scam. "I just wanted to be with you and I didn't want to wait. I hate waiting." he said about that afterward. His schemes regularly backfire on him.
Krimee, damn Todd just own up to your mess man! I don't think even I could forgive Todd for this one. Can you imagine trying to forgive someone for stealing your baby and saying he was dead, khrist~
What todd did was horrible but blair got that ball rolling . She should have told todd right away about the baby being his. Blair always plays these unnessecary games with todd knowing how jealous he is . She had max gloating in his face a man he hates . Blair was gloating in his face . Her reasoning is just nutty she was giving todd a test to see if he could love another mans child, what's the point of that since it was a moot point it was todds. She knew he'd be thrilled and she knows him he was mean to her and took starr bc he hated that she was having maxs baby . If she had told him he wouldn't have taken starr . So she kept lying bc she was afraid he'd take this baby but he was taking starr bc of it being maxs baby its a circle thar goes around but bottom line if she told him it was his none of this wouod have happened. Also blair hypocritical bc she gets so angry that todd took starr ir fought ans eon custody bit blair always uses the kids to punish todd. During star wars she thought only she had the right to starr and refused to let him see her as a baby. When she stroked out Dorian as her guardian bc she was in a coma divorced todd and fought for full custody of starr and when blair woke up instrad of blaming Dorian she blamed todd but what was he supposed to do. She always had Dorian coming in the way this time it was kelly . Blair always listens to them but not todd. He already had to sit through blair carrying Patrick's baby a baby she made when todd came back . What if todd never kidnapped starr and they got back together than what with brendan? Todd did something horrible but it takes two to tango blair lied to him about a few pregnancies so maybe he snapped. I just wish todd realized that in sleeping with blair that baby could have been his and asked for a paternity test. He knows blair lies but I guess he believed her . I hated this bc they are an interesting couple when they are happy. Check out most of 95 so it was hard to really get into the manning being this happy couple bc I knew this secret wouod drop and it went on too long from November to may.
An awesome reality about TnB is their forgiveness. Her lies/misdeeds don't interfere with his love which continues for years and years. He proposes 8 times. He wasn't even mad about the paternity lie! Blair, for her part, also loves him despite his most hurtful actions. That's romantic in a lovely, twisted kind of way and I love this couple!
Blair mainly lied about Jack's paternity out of fear that Todd would take Jack. She spoke of it all through her pregnancy. She also tested his love for her at one point but it was brief and secondary. The fact that she was willing to marry a man she didn't love or leave all of her family by running (incl. Starr and Addy) speaks volumes re: her intense fear.
On the island it's the end of all "romance" between them. He leaves her for Blair and they are just friends/exes/frenemies after that. They are barely speaking when Todd's story is over.
TnB fans have it rough. Todd's about to lose all that he wanted so badly. He'll soon desperately want Blair back and begin the Mafia scheme. But, upon discovery, Blair leaves again. Todd begs her to stay but no dice after both the DBL and the Mafia scam. Then, in 2011, Todd schemes yet again to reunite them and has his competition kidnapped. But this time discovery of his lies sends Blair back to the arms of her former lover. Todd's smart but he certainly doesn't learn well from his mistakes! Neither does Blair with her lies. It's hard on the fans!
I heard roger was leaving so I assumed that was the exit story for the show to just leave him on that island & that would have been it. I was surprised when he showed back up. I think it was wasted though he gets blair to forgive him & immediately sam ruins it like the next couple days. What was the point of all that just for tnb to get back only to break up yet again. Then mitch came on & I was stunned how mitch just owned todd , once even scarier than mitch in his college days. I mean that's how roger left being put in Victor's mausoleum. I remembered thinking eventually someone would find him , ben died a year later. Obviously we got the rewrite that the CIA took todd, the real todd. I was on a break from the show so how did faux todd explain how he got out of the crypt ? I mean was mitch s plan to let him just starve to death in there ? Kinda obvious mitch put him in there. Such a mess. I'd rather rh exit was the island & us just figuring hed get off someday. I think roger coming & going every few years they just ran outta exits. In 98 he just left. I thought after the baby lie came out they could have just had him decide to go. I really hated seeing mitch just destroy him.
What todd did was sick but can blair take a shred of blame? She was willing to let todd believe he never had a son. Blair ran away to hide the baby. She also let him stay in agony for months while blair & max gloated. He also actually didnt take starr away til blair decided to marry max.
What Todd did was sick, period. Blair should have told him but she was afraid! And she did nothing so bad as putting an innocent baby at risk and telling the baby's mother the baby is dead when he gave it away, even saying he didn't care what David did with the infant. Added note: In the actual story line, TnB were reunited and she told him about Jack. Only in some fantasy story line, did Blair fail to tell Todd about Jack. Thank goodness we don't get censored for thoughts and plans; only what we actually do! After all, Todd seriously considered leaving the country when he kidnapped Starr.
Blair let Todd "stay in agony for months". Hugely dramatic words for a guy who wasn't even mad at her and badly wanted her back right after he found out she lied! "The biggest mistake I made was letting go of you. I don't want to live my life without you.", Todd says. Those "months" of "agony" apparently left very little impression on him! Added note: After Blair told Todd she and Max were not getting married, he still kept her form Starr. Vicki described it as "criminal" on his part.
There was really no good reason why Blair didn’t tell Todd he was the father. No good reason at all. Even during and after she gave birth , she had about a thousand different chances to tell him
Plus she gave paloma maxs phone number & he ran to mexico. Why is it ok for blair to use todd as a speem donor & cash register? She said 50x to herself to sam to addie todd could never know the truth. I honestly believe she was never going to tell him he had a son. She had 7 months plus during labor during birth after birth & babbled how they won! The next morning. 4 words its ur baby todd! & she even knew hed be thrilled. Plus she tried to marry sam than max who dumped the marriage idea so legally todd never would have been the dad. So todd didnt follow her to mexico she planned to never tell him. She trued this crap w/ starr & planned to not tell him either it took 4 months ! & after he proposed. How bout baby no. 1 which was made up instead of telling todd her best friend he was rich. She didn't even want to get pregnant on their wedding night until the bright todd said " why are u taking birth control ur already pregnant right blair" so she was planning to pull.an asa on todd fake a miscarriage todd gets rich & she takes half. Max actually did him.a favor b/c he got an annulment where blair got nothing although she got melador but w/o todds ftee rent constant millions to get it off the ground plus free publicity in the sun she was done. Melador was finished once she & todd split. Too bad todd wasnt made as bright as he was to demamd a payernity test knowing he slept w/ her months after he knew she wasnt w/ max. They made jack in feb she shot max in nov didnt todd doing the deed notice she was flat aa a flounder at 4 months. Add kelly as dorian jr saying never tell todd. Ugh. Blair so knew if she told todd it was his baby hed be over the moon. Ugh. So i guess kidnapping todds baby is fine. I swear if todd didnt tell her the baby was dead blair woupd have still played mqx its yrs.
@@nattyps3160 She can have sex with him and she can live off him because he keeps inviting her back into his bed and his life! He wasn't even particularly mad about her paternity lie. He wants her with him enough that he chooses to forgive and to continue to seek her out. And in some fantasy alternative story line Blair might have run off with Jack. However, in the real story line we watched, she and Todd reunite and she finally tells him bout Jack.
She should tell him! But she does have a good reason: she has said numerous times over the span of her pregnancy that she mistrusts him. She fears that he'll take Jack due to his betrayals, the kidnapping and his recent actions with Starr. He has kidnapped Starr before and kept her from Starr recently. He has betrayed her twice in the recent past: turning her in to the police and trying to frame her for Asa's "murder". Even though he fixed the first situation, the fact that he would readily betray her like that left its mark in terms of trust.
Then why did the have her say for a couple months she wanted todd to pass the test that he could love maxs baby. Really dumb. Todd was also made dumb not asking for a dna test or to see blairs medical records. Blair lied she was pregnant w/ starr for 4 months before she finally told him. Dorian was the one who put in blairs head todd would " snatch that baby from u " what in the delivery room? Hed have his lawyers slap a court order on blairs baby? Once she told him he was thrilled. He wasnt even mad she waited 4 months or said she almost had an abortion. Plus theyd never had a child yet their first obviously was a miscarriage. Also before todd proposed & b4 their stable sex reunion todd really wasnt bothering blair at all. They had him on his save marty obsession from her drinking & lupus. He even tried to give her the back rent on melador. Im sorry but blair blew up that marriage. Lying about being pregnabt knowing ur best friend has a huge inheritance is terrible. Plus blair never told him she loved him back & blairs first reflex was to hunt her lawyer down to empty her & todds joint bank accts & get todd off of any melador involvement when he literally made it happen. Buying a building so she didnt have to pay asa rent putting up all the $$ he also took over addies medical bills. He treated blair like a queen. So blair crushed a lot of todds newfound trust & growth. He said it to tina asa max that he & blair have no secrets & he said blair was the person he ever trusted in his life. Its sad b/c tnb had it all the acting the fire chemistry the humour the sexiness the looks then finally here 2 beautiful kids & they hit the jackpot w/ kristen who i think learned a lot from rh kdp & erika skezak.
@@nattyps3160 Blair spoke just twice about testing Todd' love (> 2 months) for her. In contrast, she brought up her fear of Todd taking Jack throughout the pregnancy. His betrayal, putting her very freedom at risk, set that up. Betrayal like that leaves a huge hole in trust. She knew how readily he could turn on her! The proof that she was right about that is in the fact that he quickly DID turn on her again when he conspired with Gabby to frame her for murder! The other proof is the terrible treachery of the DBL itself. Blair made a lot of mistakes when they were first were together as a couple and she ruined the trust he had in her. She was very much at fault for the fact that the love relationship got off to such a bad start. After that, they both were responsible for the problems between them and neither could trust the other.
I can't believe this story is almost 10 years old it seemed like yesterday when I watched this
@samsausagehead99 Yup, she was inserted for SISP which was to cover RH's indefinite exit but I felt that s/l would've been silly because Todd would've found a way home (which is what happened in the rewrite). We're just saying, SISP didn't need to happen for drama, another s/l with relevant characters would've worked. Yes, the rebound sex (a miracle in itself) allowed for the possibility of a TnT child & without SISP, Dani wouldn't exist, but that really wouldn't be any kind of loss for me...lol
Tour de force by KDP. This storyline damn near broke my heart.
@Rosannasfriend YES!! Tea's always thrust rather abruptly and awkwardly into story lines. I never understood why FL was brought in to facilitate RH's exit because SISP was an utterly unbelievable explanation of Todd's long term absence. He was madly in love with Blair and nothing would have kept him from his kids. Thank God RH signed on for more and we got the Tea-as-a-rebound-that-makes-Todd-realize-he-needs-to-paddle-home- to-Blair s/l. But still...I so coulda done without the Tea...
Im still mad to this day my girl KDP didnt at least get nominated for this LIVE!!! 😡😡😡
Ill get to kdp as i aggree live she was given the hardest material & blew everyone away. Not even an emmy nomination. Rh is & at a very young age when he started on the show a powerhouse actor. Head writer malone screwed up just using him to prop martys story first as a frat boy classmate she took home for a one night stand it was just to show how lonely & low marty had sunk. Then she kisses todd only to reject him. Their was this weird back & forth of marty trashing him or hitting on him. U never got a rape vibe from him just clumsy obsessive on marty & then malone took a hard left & made todd the leader of a gang rape! All to redeem marty. Anyway my point is , roger can & did do everything & its criminal he never won more emmys. Hes such a great reactive actor as well. Which they say is the best part of acting. Plus his hunour facial expressions which malone finally credited rh for having these reactions that werent even directed he had such a gift for saying something than w/ those facial expressiins showing about 10 different emotions. To the point kdp got robbed a lot. This show going live was revolutionary at that time as soaps were always taped w/ rehearsal etc. Kdp deservedcan emmy for this. I mean rh & kdp are so good together as they really are so so natural onscreen rh knew this was kdps momemt & he doesnt step on it at all. He pretty much doesnt show much reaction. U know he has hated himself for this hated he gave a baby away ( which is so out of charactee for todd as they showed way back in early 94 his love for kids starting w/ cj & sarah. So for todd to give any baby away i mean knowing todd i think he snapped once his mortal enemies child came. But how they had him say to david when he said " ill get him a good home" todd saying " good home bad home band of gypsies dont care " its just not todd. That child could have been sold on the black market god knows where. At least david it seems got him a decent home but b/c he went to a wealthy woman but that guy buck really seemed to love the baby & he had a nice home a nanny & jack wasnt harmed. The point is todd who was devastated that victor lord dumped him off ( yes victor knew he was his son ) but todd still was crushed & went on how horrible it was that victor dumped him in an abusive home w/ his adopted dad peter. Todd again loved all kids.
So i really feel kdp got the toughest material during live week & knocked it out of the park. The way shes able to cry like that i always thought she was one of the best criers on tv along w/ jonathan jackson who racked up a bunch of emmys. Steve burton as well when called to cry those blue eyes get bloodshot. He even won an emmy on gh for a scene where he sobs. JJ as well when playing drunk & sobbing when confronting his wife & brother about cheating he won an emmy. But kdp is sobbing live & had the toughest part learning all the happiness she thought she finally had the perfect husband family children was all just shattered & she has to confront the man she has married 3x knows her daughter will be cryshed basically her family is over & of coutse she is madly in love w/ todd & hes always had her under some hold or spell b/c i think he does make blair feel safe & secure & she does know hes been a wonderful dad & husband during all 3 marriages. I mean she hust blew this away. Even the part where she throws todd out & is just lying like a zombie on the stairs is amazing.
@@nattyps3160 WONDERFUL HUSBAND during all 3 marriages?? Todd's just spent months lying to her and has hurt her terribly. She's obviously devastated that he could hurt her that way. Their 1st marriage included the threat of rape and manhandling of her with actual bruising. Their 2nd marriage he punished her daily without telling her why and then kidnapped Starr. And here we are in the 3rd marriage and he has done something close to unforgivable. He can be a good husband but then he does something really bad. Blair certainly doesn't rush back for more after this! It takes her awhile and he resorts to a scam to get her back more quickly. Then, in 2011, she's wary of him and actually chooses Tomas until Todd has Tomas kidnapped.
(Note: One area of total agreement: KDP is awesome here!!)
6:20...
Blair: you must think im the stupidest eprson in the whole world
Todd: no. I think youre a little emotional maybe
holy hell. how did he have the nerve to say that?! im so impressed blair didnt strangle him right there
A lot of todd fans hated how he was from about late 01 to 03. He was so goofy. He was way more deep & serious & mature in 95 when he was younger. This happens to characters. If u watched Tina played by andrea she was much more in control not ditsy & shrewd. She always had a heart for viki but she was not the air head she became even played by andrea. By the time krista played her at the end she was just stupid & everyone around her called her variations of stupid brain dead ditz & idiot. That was not the Tina I just watched in 85 with mitch. She wasn't an Airhead more a little immature bc of her young Age but she was know airhead. She also got right up in asa & Dorian's faces & was tough. David Vickers in 94 was a very serious character not the total goofball he became later. It's like these characters get less mature & stupider as they age.
As for two characters that they wasted in making them over the top crazy & evil were mitch & maria Robert's, cords mom. As I said I was watching mitch & tina in 85 & mitch was just a grifter. Greedy conman but he was charming , handsome & not evil just out for money. Then as the 80s went on he started that cult, he murdered some guy & tried to rape cassie. Dorian " killed him " mitch could have been a good character for years. Maria Roberts was pretty normal. She did not like her son with Tina bc she saw she was a schemer. She was great when she did not go pycho killer. She was the one who introduced max holden. She paid him off to seduce Tina away from cord. Her fights with Tina are iconic. Then they had her go off the deep end & die. What a waste. She reminded me in her battles with viki very much of Dorian. She was def q character that could have caused trouble in llainview for years. She had ties to the show. Her son cord & grandkids & I could have seen her & clint when viki went with sloan.
Blair is so upset that Todd could hurt her this badly! He hopes he can talk his way into keeping her but he's utterly delusional. She doesn't give a second's thought to staying. Even though I love TnB I"m glad. He's showing little remorse. After awhile, he wants her back so desperately that he cooks up the crazy and ill fated Mafia scam. "I just wanted to be with you and I didn't want to wait. I hate waiting." he said about that afterward. His schemes regularly backfire on him.
Krimee, damn Todd just own up to your mess man! I don't think even I could forgive Todd for this one. Can you imagine trying to forgive someone for stealing your baby and saying he was dead, khrist~
What todd did was horrible but blair got that ball rolling . She should have told todd right away about the baby being his. Blair always plays these unnessecary games with todd knowing how jealous he is . She had max gloating in his face a man he hates . Blair was gloating in his face . Her reasoning is just nutty she was giving todd a test to see if he could love another mans child, what's the point of that since it was a moot point it was todds. She knew he'd be thrilled and she knows him he was mean to her and took starr bc he hated that she was having maxs baby . If she had told him he wouldn't have taken starr . So she kept lying bc she was afraid he'd take this baby but he was taking starr bc of it being maxs baby its a circle thar goes around but bottom line if she told him it was his none of this wouod have happened.
Also blair hypocritical bc she gets so angry that todd took starr ir fought ans eon custody bit blair always uses the kids to punish todd. During star wars she thought only she had the right to starr and refused to let him see her as a baby. When she stroked out Dorian as her guardian bc she was in a coma divorced todd and fought for full custody of starr and when blair woke up instrad of blaming Dorian she blamed todd but what was he supposed to do. She always had Dorian coming in the way this time it was kelly . Blair always listens to them but not todd. He already had to sit through blair carrying Patrick's baby a baby she made when todd came back . What if todd never kidnapped starr and they got back together than what with brendan? Todd did something horrible but it takes two to tango blair lied to him about a few pregnancies so maybe he snapped. I just wish todd realized that in sleeping with blair that baby could have been his and asked for a paternity test. He knows blair lies but I guess he believed her . I hated this bc they are an interesting couple when they are happy. Check out most of 95 so it was hard to really get into the manning being this happy couple bc I knew this secret wouod drop and it went on too long from November to may.
An awesome reality about TnB is their forgiveness. Her lies/misdeeds don't interfere with his love which continues for years and years. He proposes 8 times. He wasn't even mad about the paternity lie! Blair, for her part, also loves him despite his most hurtful actions. That's romantic in a lovely, twisted kind of way and I love this couple!
Blair mainly lied about Jack's paternity out of fear that Todd would take Jack. She spoke of it all through her pregnancy. She also tested his love for her at one point but it was brief and secondary. The fact that she was willing to marry a man she didn't love or leave all of her family by running (incl. Starr and Addy) speaks volumes re: her intense fear.
Tea' Delgado ❤🎉 Even if it's just for the exit
On the island it's the end of all "romance" between them. He leaves her for Blair and they are just friends/exes/frenemies after that. They are barely speaking when Todd's story is over.
TnB fans have it rough. Todd's about to lose all that he wanted so badly. He'll soon desperately want Blair back and begin the Mafia scheme. But, upon discovery, Blair leaves again. Todd begs her to stay but no dice after both the DBL and the Mafia scam. Then, in 2011, Todd schemes yet again to reunite them and has his competition kidnapped. But this time discovery of his lies sends Blair back to the arms of her former lover. Todd's smart but he certainly doesn't learn well from his mistakes! Neither does Blair with her lies. It's hard on the fans!
@EllaVin11 I know why she was there. For the desert island storyline. That lasted awhile. ALSO if it not had been for that, Dani wouldnt exsist.
I heard roger was leaving so I assumed that was the exit story for the show to just leave him on that island & that would have been it. I was surprised when he showed back up. I think it was wasted though he gets blair to forgive him & immediately sam ruins it like the next couple days. What was the point of all that just for tnb to get back only to break up yet again. Then mitch came on & I was stunned how mitch just owned todd , once even scarier than mitch in his college days. I mean that's how roger left being put in Victor's mausoleum. I remembered thinking eventually someone would find him , ben died a year later. Obviously we got the rewrite that the CIA took todd, the real todd. I was on a break from the show so how did faux todd explain how he got out of the crypt ? I mean was mitch s plan to let him just starve to death in there ? Kinda obvious mitch put him in there. Such a mess. I'd rather rh exit was the island & us just figuring hed get off someday. I think roger coming & going every few years they just ran outta exits. In 98 he just left. I thought after the baby lie came out they could have just had him decide to go. I really hated seeing mitch just destroy him.
amen yes soooo dramatic, screaming somewhere on the top of her lungs
What todd did was sick but can blair take a shred of blame? She was willing to let todd believe he never had a son. Blair ran away to hide the baby. She also let him stay in agony for months while blair & max gloated. He also actually didnt take starr away til blair decided to marry max.
What Todd did was sick, period. Blair should have told him but she was afraid! And she did nothing so bad as putting an innocent baby at risk and telling the baby's mother the baby is dead when he gave it away, even saying he didn't care what David did with the infant. Added note: In the actual story line, TnB were reunited and she told him about Jack. Only in some fantasy story line, did Blair fail to tell Todd about Jack. Thank goodness we don't get censored for thoughts and plans; only what we actually do! After all, Todd seriously considered leaving the country when he kidnapped Starr.
Blair let Todd "stay in agony for months". Hugely dramatic words for a guy who wasn't even mad at her and badly wanted her back right after he found out she lied! "The biggest mistake I made was letting go of you. I don't want to live my life without you.", Todd says. Those "months" of "agony" apparently left very little impression on him! Added note: After Blair told Todd she and Max were not getting married, he still kept her form Starr. Vicki described it as "criminal" on his part.
There was really no good reason why Blair didn’t tell Todd he was the father. No good reason at all. Even during and after she gave birth , she had about a thousand different chances to tell him
Plus she gave paloma maxs phone number & he ran to mexico. Why is it ok for blair to use todd as a speem donor & cash register? She said 50x to herself to sam to addie todd could never know the truth. I honestly believe she was never going to tell him he had a son. She had 7 months plus during labor during birth after birth & babbled how they won! The next morning. 4 words its ur baby todd! & she even knew hed be thrilled. Plus she tried to marry sam than max who dumped the marriage idea so legally todd never would have been the dad. So todd didnt follow her to mexico she planned to never tell him. She trued this crap w/ starr & planned to not tell him either it took 4 months ! & after he proposed. How bout baby no. 1 which was made up instead of telling todd her best friend he was rich. She didn't even want to get pregnant on their wedding night until the bright todd said " why are u taking birth control ur already pregnant right blair" so she was planning to pull.an asa on todd fake a miscarriage todd gets rich & she takes half. Max actually did him.a favor b/c he got an annulment where blair got nothing although she got melador but w/o todds ftee rent constant millions to get it off the ground plus free publicity in the sun she was done. Melador was finished once she & todd split. Too bad todd wasnt made as bright as he was to demamd a payernity test knowing he slept w/ her months after he knew she wasnt w/ max. They made jack in feb she shot max in nov didnt todd doing the deed notice she was flat aa a flounder at 4 months. Add kelly as dorian jr saying never tell todd. Ugh. Blair so knew if she told todd it was his baby hed be over the moon. Ugh. So i guess kidnapping todds baby is fine. I swear if todd didnt tell her the baby was dead blair woupd have still played mqx its yrs.
@@nattyps3160 She can have sex with him and she can live off him because he keeps inviting her back into his bed and his life! He wasn't even particularly mad about her paternity lie. He wants her with him enough that he chooses to forgive and to continue to seek her out. And in some fantasy alternative story line Blair might have run off with Jack. However, in the real story line we watched, she and Todd reunite and she finally tells him bout Jack.
She should tell him! But she does have a good reason: she has said numerous times over the span of her pregnancy that she mistrusts him. She fears that he'll take Jack due to his betrayals, the kidnapping and his recent actions with Starr. He has kidnapped Starr before and kept her from Starr recently. He has betrayed her twice in the recent past: turning her in to the police and trying to frame her for Asa's "murder". Even though he fixed the first situation, the fact that he would readily betray her like that left its mark in terms of trust.
Then why did the have her say for a couple months she wanted todd to pass the test that he could love maxs baby. Really dumb. Todd was also made dumb not asking for a dna test or to see blairs medical records. Blair lied she was pregnant w/ starr for 4 months before she finally told him. Dorian was the one who put in blairs head todd would " snatch that baby from u " what in the delivery room? Hed have his lawyers slap a court order on blairs baby? Once she told him he was thrilled. He wasnt even mad she waited 4 months or said she almost had an abortion. Plus theyd never had a child yet their first obviously was a miscarriage. Also before todd proposed & b4 their stable sex reunion todd really wasnt bothering blair at all. They had him on his save marty obsession from her drinking & lupus. He even tried to give her the back rent on melador. Im sorry but blair blew up that marriage. Lying about being pregnabt knowing ur best friend has a huge inheritance is terrible. Plus blair never told him she loved him back & blairs first reflex was to hunt her lawyer down to empty her & todds joint bank accts & get todd off of any melador involvement when he literally made it happen. Buying a building so she didnt have to pay asa rent putting up all the $$ he also took over addies medical bills. He treated blair like a queen. So blair crushed a lot of todds newfound trust & growth. He said it to tina asa max that he & blair have no secrets & he said blair was the person he ever trusted in his life. Its sad b/c tnb had it all the acting the fire chemistry the humour the sexiness the looks then finally here 2 beautiful kids & they hit the jackpot w/ kristen who i think learned a lot from rh kdp & erika skezak.
@@nattyps3160 Blair spoke just twice about testing Todd' love (> 2 months) for her. In contrast, she brought up her fear of Todd taking Jack throughout the pregnancy. His betrayal, putting her very freedom at risk, set that up. Betrayal like that leaves a huge hole in trust. She knew how readily he could turn on her! The proof that she was right about that is in the fact that he quickly DID turn on her again when he conspired with Gabby to frame her for murder! The other proof is the terrible treachery of the DBL itself.
Blair made a lot of mistakes when they were first were together as a couple and she ruined the trust he had in her. She was very much at fault for the fact that the love relationship got off to such a bad start. After that, they both were responsible for the problems between them and neither could trust the other.