For the newbies, Aaron is THE best reviewer of knives, outdoor equipment and clothing, bar none. I have the Lion steel M7 because you recommended it and it's a beauty and one of my go to knives! I always get concerned about being out alone, soooo, it's time to pick up a Zoleo!!! Thanks again, bud!
@@phillipfelts6687 I too went to mostly fixed blades even for edc because they are way stronger. The only one I kept was the Cold steel recon 1 Tanto because of the amazing Tri-ad lock.
I own both and like both. The 45 feels like more of a camp/bushcraft knife while the T5 is a solid blend of survival and tactical notes. If I could only own one, and price mattered I'd buy a used T5. If price didn't matter I'd probably just own both. I have the K490 T6 on the way, just got a good deal on a used one.
The Lionsteel T5 is ein absolutly great knife and with a secondary convex edge the knife is next level. I own two T5 and one has a secondary convex edge, nearly a scandivex and it's a woodworking beast.
@@MrBlessed70 For reprofiling from V edge to convex edge, it is best to use a diamond grinding plate 140-240 grit. Mark the cutting edge with a pen so that you can see where you are removing material. The finer grinding for example can be done with Shapton Pro Ceramic Stone 1000 grit. The whole thing is freehand grinding, if you have no experience, you should practice on a cheap knife before tackling the T5 and it is better to take more time and check more often, as major mistakes are difficult or impossible to correct.
dont tell my wife .. i recently upgraded my collection with an M7 and got now the M4, M7, T5 and T6 and i have to say the handle of the lionsteel knives (minus the M4) are just too good.. its hard to go back once you held one for a while
I feel ya guy I've got the t6 and m7 myself I would have more but my dumb butt bought a trc apocalypse it's a great knife but I could've bought two lionsteel knives in its place unfortunately I bought first
I checked out the T5 based on your recommendation and researched the heck out of it. I find it a solid knife and use it around camp all the time. I do think if falls short for hunting and do have my preferred knives for that. The T5 is one of knives that gets laid out when choosing gear to go the woods.
Great comparison...I own both knives and they sit side-by-side in my knife drawer. So when I walk out the door to hike or camp I am happy with either one I grab. However, with that said as for the handles, the T5 wins hands down. As for performance, it's hard to say which one I like best. I do prefer a Kydex sheath as with the 45. I also like a dangler so I added a 'D' ring and made a leather dangler attachment for my T5. Lionsteel has just come out with a T5 Kydex sheath for $58. The spine on the 45 is about as sharp as the blade for striking a fire steel. I don't use my knives for that so it didn't matter. Overall, I think my T5 edges out the 45 slightly.
Both the Lionsteel and White River are great knives. I would throw the Bradford Guardian 4.5 into the mix as well. I would take any one of the three over the new Benchmade Bushcrafter any day of the week. I was at Blade Show today and got to know the folks at Bradford and White River. Really nice people. Couldn't resist, bought a knife from each of them.
It is crystal clear that T5 is still the King also the best VFM. I have it for 4 years and still can't find something even as equal, specially for that price, Long Live The King. Lionsteel you delivered a masterpiece.
@@greekveteran2715 για πες βρε πατριώτη, και λίγο την τιμουλα;....Μια χαρά είναι τό TRC , αλλά στην τιμή κάτω των 180 euro , Δεν έχει κάτι καλύτερο. Για αυτό και το αναφέρω το Τ5 ως VFM.
Man, your a wealth of information. Whenever I get the urge to buy a new knife I just start watching your videos until I see something I like. You were right about the scales on the pr4 Essee but with those after markets it’s a great kephart…….k62 is nicer though👍 you should do more videos for entry level bushcraft and campers, nobody knows what to buy
@@logangodofcandy No,not at all.I'm just being a realist having tried all the famous knives from all the well known brands,like Bark River,LT Wright,Falkniven,Survive Knives GSO etc.Nothing comes close to TRC Knives. I like all of them, not just TRC. TRC's are just THE best of the best, from any point of view,flawless.Especialy when it comes to Combat knife category, they have no equals..Mille Cuori is known to all knife community, as the best (readily available) soldiers knife in the world.
Knifesteel Nerd rates Niolox with a max toughness of around 60.5 Rc at 7.7 ft/lbs. S35VN at the same RC rates 8.3 ft/lbs. Both steels have Niobium but S35VN is a true Crucible steel. If Lionsteel made the T5 in a better steel, I would have never bought my Ursus. As is, the Ursus 45 is my favorite knife. I carry it everyday and have yet to find fault with it. Mine is the DLT exclusive 3V version, so the T5 in Niolox looks pretty silly by comparison. If Lionsteel made the T5 in 3V or Magnucut, I'd sell most other knives in my collection to get it. But not my Ursus.
You're a marketing victim. Steel is literaly the last factor you should care for on a knife, its' everything else tha matter more.That being said, I'm not a fun of T5, I'd go for the way more practical Ursus, if not for an even more practical Manly Patriot which is my most used knife. Anytihng esle, is just collector's tastes.
Nonsense. It is absolutely necessary for me to have crazy high stainless on a carry knife. My evaporated sweat is like xenomorph blood. I also work in a lot of water. So, no. I need high stainless, and I also need it to hold an edge longer than 5 minutes, and I need it to be pretty tough. S35VN is like a bare minimum for me. I like it because it is so balanced for my needs.
Lionsteel has some Great knives at fair prices, but they are making great strides! As an American, I try to buy American, but in the Brotherhoods of knives, I support all of our knife brothers. White River makes some wonderful knives too, but best bang for the buck, LionSteel is the winner! The better comparison would have been the White River against the LionSteel M5!
Oh boy, that’s a tough question! Not sure how I would choose. Ursus has better steel and is more slicey, but Lionsteel is my favorite brand. True dilemma.
@@jonathancupp3686 it is new and almost sold out…..I think there is only one review online at the moment. I have one and it is fantastic. But I admit that I am biased with Mr. Molletta designs :)
If Lionsteel made the T5 in 3v I think I would trade all my knives for it. I loooooove the knife though and like you I’ll put it through its paces and see how niolox stands up. The edge retention is very good and ergonomics are chefs kiss!
Nice looking knives to beat the wilderness into submission. I recently added a BPS Trail Cheff and a BPS Stingray to my collection. The Trail Cheff is fantastic in the camp kitchen. The Stingray only turned up today so time will tell.
Great heads up comparison Aaron! I've owned the T5 for years now. It usually lives in the door pouch in the truck. I am a big fan of White River tho. I appreciate everything about them and their price point is not a deal breaker.
I have the Ursus in 3V. You vote with your dollar, and mine goes to the less tactical more edc friendly USA made option. Not knocking the Lionsteel, but the Ursus is my choice.
My T5 is a bit thick behind the edge but good for very hard use. I abused it hard splitting through hardwood, knots and such and the edge is still fine. The T5 and my little Pukko knive together are a perfect team.
I’ve got em all, neither of these are tops imo, instead: Large hands.. TKC/Architect 5.5 in 3v Medium/large hands.. Bradford 5.5 in elmax or magnacut. Small hands.. TKC/Architect 4.5 Two other fantastic lighter high-end trekking options: the TRC M1 or Southpole are both friggin awesome, but pricey.. but worth it.
Damn , you got me again with the blade envy Aaron .. I'm sure both are amazing blades that would be awesome to own. If I had to pick one the WR Ursus would be it. I may never own either one but I will always be happy with my Tops BOB , BM bushcrafter & Esse RB3. Thanks for another top notch review my friend.
Both look like awesome knives. S35VN is an awesome steel. 3V for doomsday is always my first choice , Although Magnacut has inched its way into my rotations. White River makes awesome knives and so does Lion Steel. The T5 as well as the Ursus 45. But The reality I have so many awesome knives I could not justify the purchase. Aaron another great review. I will note the Ursus pup looks nice but the ergoes fell short.
The LionSteel has a fair price while White River, once again, charges a premium for their ego. I’ve been carrying the T5 for 2 years now, & it is a beast. However the Ursus might “test”, it’s not worth the price.
I really like these kind of reviews where you have two good knives rather than having to say one is good and one is bad. I know you didn't like the Mora robust because you always think about Bushcraft but I like that knife and a lot of other people do. But through judicious shopping on eBay I managed to score some pretty nice knives so I go back and I watch your videos and others that reviewed nice from 5 years ago. I'm a fan of Steel will and the only way to get them that I know of is to go to eBay and many people have them brand new.
I don't own the White River, but I do own the T5 and I own plenty of other blades in s35vn and I'd have to say, from my own experience, your comparison of s35 vs niolox is right on.
G'day Aaron, these two are right up my alley, but I'll give the nod to the T5; ..... beefier is better for on the trail IMO and S35 is my tried and true favorite. Yeah, I prefer kydex, though well done leather is fine. To be honest, being Lionsteel, I thought it'd be significantly more expensive, especially with currency conversion, so I've never seriously considered the purchase ....... now its in the crosshairs ; ) Cheers Duke.
Id say the SRK-C in 3v. Everything else is just branding and marketing. Personally SRK-C in regular carbon steel is all anyone needs. What work around camp need a 5in blade. This is just more marketing for ridiculously overpriced knives. $200 for a fixed blade is insane. But fools believe all the marketing
For the newbies, Aaron is THE best reviewer of knives, outdoor equipment and clothing, bar none. I have the Lion steel M7 because you recommended it and it's a beauty and one of my go to knives! I always get concerned about being out alone, soooo, it's time to pick up a Zoleo!!! Thanks again, bud!
I have a ton of fixed blades because of Aaron as well he shifted my whole knife collection from folders to exclusively fixed blades!!!!!!!!
@@phillipfelts6687 I too went to mostly fixed blades even for edc because they are way stronger. The only one I kept was the Cold steel recon 1 Tanto because of the amazing Tri-ad lock.
I own both and like both. The 45 feels like more of a camp/bushcraft knife while the T5 is a solid blend of survival and tactical notes. If I could only own one, and price mattered I'd buy a used T5. If price didn't matter I'd probably just own both. I have the K490 T6 on the way, just got a good deal on a used one.
K490 is a crazy steel. Good buy
The Lionsteel T5 is ein absolutly great knife and with a secondary convex edge the knife is next level. I own two T5 and one has a secondary convex edge, nearly a scandivex and it's a woodworking beast.
Sounds awesome!!!
I did the same to mine! So much better for wood related tasks.
Thanks-What is the best way to sharpen your T5?
@@MrBlessed70 For reprofiling from V edge to convex edge, it is best to use a diamond grinding plate 140-240 grit. Mark the cutting edge with a pen so that you can see where you are removing material. The finer grinding for example can be done with Shapton Pro Ceramic Stone 1000 grit. The whole thing is freehand grinding, if you have no experience, you should practice on a cheap knife before tackling the T5 and it is better to take more time and check more often, as major mistakes are difficult or impossible to correct.
@@achimgeist5185 Many thanks for this info
dont tell my wife .. i recently upgraded my collection with an M7 and got now the M4, M7, T5 and T6 and i have to say the handle of the lionsteel knives (minus the M4) are just too good.. its hard to go back once you held one for a while
Then you need to finish the collection with the KC-01!!! 😊
@@ruggeroama9464 Yea i realy hope to get one but i heared they are a limited run 😅
I feel ya guy I've got the t6 and m7 myself I would have more but my dumb butt bought a trc apocalypse it's a great knife but I could've bought two lionsteel knives in its place unfortunately I bought first
@@ruggeroama9464 Agree! Got my KC-01 last week and love it. It suited me better than the T6 or M7 I was also considering.
I have many lionsteel knives,also have a couple white river one being ursus. Both companies make excellent knives. Nice review
I checked out the T5 based on your recommendation and researched the heck out of it. I find it a solid knife and use it around camp all the time. I do think if falls short for hunting and do have my preferred knives for that. The T5 is one of knives that gets laid out when choosing gear to go the woods.
Great comparison...I own both knives and they sit side-by-side in my knife drawer. So when I walk out the door to hike or camp I am happy with either one I grab. However, with that said as for the handles, the T5 wins hands down. As for performance, it's hard to say which one I like best. I do prefer a Kydex sheath as with the 45. I also like a dangler so I added a 'D' ring and made a leather dangler attachment for my T5. Lionsteel has just come out with a T5 Kydex sheath for $58. The spine on the 45 is about as sharp as the blade for striking a fire steel. I don't use my knives for that so it didn't matter. Overall, I think my T5 edges out the 45 slightly.
You have some very interesting points. Both knives are great. Thank you for sharing.
Both the Lionsteel and White River are great knives. I would throw the Bradford Guardian 4.5 into the mix as well. I would take any one of the three over the new Benchmade Bushcrafter any day of the week. I was at Blade Show today and got to know the folks at Bradford and White River. Really nice people. Couldn't resist, bought a knife from each of them.
Great response..love em all as well!
It is crystal clear that T5 is still the King also the best VFM. I have it for 4 years and still can't find something even as equal, specially for that price, Long Live The King. Lionsteel you delivered a masterpiece.
It is really a great blade
T5 a King? T5 is a Joke compared to a TRC Knives Mille Cuori
@@greekveteran2715 για πες βρε πατριώτη, και λίγο την τιμουλα;....Μια χαρά είναι τό TRC , αλλά στην τιμή κάτω των 180 euro , Δεν έχει κάτι καλύτερο. Για αυτό και το αναφέρω το Τ5 ως VFM.
Man, your a wealth of information. Whenever I get the urge to buy a new knife I just start watching your videos until I see something I like. You were right about the scales on the pr4 Essee but with those after markets it’s a great kephart…….k62 is nicer though👍 you should do more videos for entry level bushcraft and campers, nobody knows what to buy
I would love to carry that Ursus. So nice.
T5 for the win! Only downside is i don't buy sheath knives anymore because i can't find one that i like more.
T5 is a joke compared to a TRC Mille Cuori or a TRC M1.
You like TRC. Whatever. Plenty of Glock fans and Harley fans out there. I still don't give a shit what any of you think.
@@logangodofcandy No,not at all.I'm just being a realist having tried all the famous knives from all the well known brands,like Bark River,LT Wright,Falkniven,Survive Knives GSO etc.Nothing comes close to TRC Knives. I like all of them, not just TRC. TRC's are just THE best of the best, from any point of view,flawless.Especialy when it comes to Combat knife category, they have no equals..Mille Cuori is known to all knife community, as the best (readily available) soldiers knife in the world.
Nice comparison. I bought t5 after your first presentation and i m really happy to own and use this awesome knife daily. Great job 👍
Knifesteel Nerd rates Niolox with a max toughness of around 60.5 Rc at 7.7 ft/lbs. S35VN at the same RC rates 8.3 ft/lbs. Both steels have Niobium but S35VN is a true Crucible steel. If Lionsteel made the T5 in a better steel, I would have never bought my Ursus. As is, the Ursus 45 is my favorite knife. I carry it everyday and have yet to find fault with it. Mine is the DLT exclusive 3V version, so the T5 in Niolox looks pretty silly by comparison. If Lionsteel made the T5 in 3V or Magnucut, I'd sell most other knives in my collection to get it. But not my Ursus.
You're a marketing victim. Steel is literaly the last factor you should care for on a knife, its' everything else tha matter more.That being said, I'm not a fun of T5, I'd go for the way more practical Ursus, if not for an even more practical Manly Patriot which is my most used knife. Anytihng esle, is just collector's tastes.
Nonsense. It is absolutely necessary for me to have crazy high stainless on a carry knife. My evaporated sweat is like xenomorph blood. I also work in a lot of water.
So, no. I need high stainless, and I also need it to hold an edge longer than 5 minutes, and I need it to be pretty tough. S35VN is like a bare minimum for me. I like it because it is so balanced for my needs.
Lionsteel has some Great knives at fair prices, but they are making great strides! As an American, I try to buy American, but in the Brotherhoods of knives, I support all of our knife brothers. White River makes some wonderful knives too, but best bang for the buck, LionSteel is the winner! The better comparison would have been the White River against the LionSteel M5!
Oh boy, that’s a tough question! Not sure how I would choose. Ursus has better steel and is more slicey, but Lionsteel is my favorite brand. True dilemma.
Choice and more choices
Go for the KC-01 by Lionsteel and you are set! 😊
@@ruggeroama9464 I have the T6, M5, and B35. I haven’t seen the KC-01 before. How did I miss that? Is it new? Sweet looking blade.
@@jonathancupp3686 it is new and almost sold out…..I think there is only one review online at the moment. I have one and it is fantastic. But I admit that I am biased with Mr. Molletta designs :)
If Lionsteel made the T5 in 3v I think I would trade all my knives for it.
I loooooove the knife though and like you I’ll put it through its paces and see how niolox stands up.
The edge retention is very good and ergonomics are chefs kiss!
That would be awesome
Then get a TRC Mille Cuori anything esle in it's category, is a Joke compared to it.
I have the M5 Hunter lion steel knife and I freaking love it, I haven't pulled the trigger on a White River yet
Nice looking knives to beat the wilderness into submission. I recently added a BPS Trail Cheff and a BPS Stingray to my collection. The Trail Cheff is fantastic in the camp kitchen. The Stingray only turned up today so time will tell.
Great heads up comparison Aaron! I've owned the T5 for years now. It usually lives in the door pouch in the truck. I am a big fan of White River tho. I appreciate everything about them and their price point is not a deal breaker.
I have the Ursus in 3V. You vote with your dollar, and mine goes to the less tactical more edc friendly USA made option. Not knocking the Lionsteel, but the Ursus is my choice.
I bought in both steels and prefer 3v. I love 3v so I would carry that one every time.
My T5 is a bit thick behind the edge but good for very hard use. I abused it hard splitting through hardwood, knots and such and the edge is still fine. The T5 and my little Pukko knive together are a perfect team.
My lionsteel T5 is one of the best all around knives I own. Beautiful sheath, comfortable in hand and great looking.
White River doesn't get enough credit.
They are excellent
Haven't heard of that steel,both look good!
I paid $138 and free shipping for the T5 a few months ago ....Chicago Knife Works
stop telling everyone..they will raise the prices and go out of stock
Well done, good comparison.
I’ve got em all, neither of these are tops imo, instead:
Large hands.. TKC/Architect 5.5 in 3v
Medium/large hands.. Bradford 5.5 in elmax or magnacut.
Small hands.. TKC/Architect 4.5
Two other fantastic lighter high-end trekking options: the TRC M1 or Southpole are both friggin awesome, but pricey.. but worth it.
Damn , you got me again with the blade envy Aaron .. I'm sure both are amazing blades that would be awesome to own. If I had to pick one the WR Ursus would be it. I may never own either one but I will always be happy with my Tops BOB , BM bushcrafter & Esse RB3. Thanks for another top notch review my friend.
Joe @ 5 minute knives does a great kydex sheath for the Lionsteel!
Even with closed eyes my choice is White River Ursus. Thanks for this great comparison 🔪
Both look like awesome knives. S35VN is an awesome steel. 3V for doomsday is always my first choice , Although Magnacut has inched its way into my rotations. White River makes awesome knives and so does Lion Steel. The T5 as well as the Ursus 45. But The reality I have so many awesome knives I could not justify the purchase. Aaron another great review. I will note the Ursus pup looks nice but the ergoes fell short.
Another excellent comparison between two really good knives. It seems that the scale tips more towards the Lionsteel T5 though...
Great comparison, I definitely need to pick up a T5
The LionSteel has a fair price while White River, once again, charges a premium for their ego. I’ve been carrying the T5 for 2 years now, & it is a beast. However the Ursus might “test”, it’s not worth the price.
I really like these kind of reviews where you have two good knives rather than having to say one is good and one is bad. I know you didn't like the Mora robust because you always think about Bushcraft but I like that knife and a lot of other people do. But through judicious shopping on eBay I managed to score some pretty nice knives so I go back and I watch your videos and others that reviewed nice from 5 years ago. I'm a fan of Steel will and the only way to get them that I know of is to go to eBay and many people have them brand new.
How do they stand up against the Becker BK16?
Lionsteel
T5🎉
How do you feel these knives compare with a Bradford USA knife of comparable size?
I think this year is the time for me to break down and pick up a Lionsteel. Perhaps at Blade Show Atlanta. Will you be there this year?
I don't own the White River, but I do own the T5 and I own plenty of other blades in s35vn and I'd have to say, from my own experience, your comparison of s35 vs niolox is right on.
Т5 and m7.
I've gained many tools from Watching your channel. It's all good! Lol
Excellent reviews GD!
Hey Aaron, great video. Thanks for your input on these two blades. How does the Joker nomad fit into a comparison with these two?
I feel like it is good but different in several ways.
Hey buddy! Can you please give us a review on the new Buck Alpha Guide fixed blades?
I have a review on the s35vn version
@@gideonstactical
I did see the review on the Alpha Hunter and scout. I was just curious on your opinions of the Field guide which has the 4.5 blade.
both a win/win give the nod to white river made in michigan
T5 for me
Easy…buy em both! I did!
I would like to see ur video about tops bob knife. Did u check this knife?
A long time ago check the tops knives play list.
I carry the ursus 45....after years of carrying hundreds of knives..
Do you still like the LionSteel M7, or have you found something better since those reviews?
Get a Joker Nomad, put the difference in your tank, and call it a day.
Love myT5!Thank you 😊
REIFF F6 Magnacut HRC???
60-62 which is good for this size knife
If you could have only one fixed blade, it’s the T5.
We all know it always comes to personal taste 😂
I like the lion more, you might like the other.. no one is wrong
Totally
lion steel
Ummm..Tops and Esee I think the best.
Just get a bark river Aurora and never look back
Lionsteel for me.
G'day Aaron, these two are right up my alley, but I'll give the nod to the T5; ..... beefier is better for on the trail IMO and S35 is my tried and true favorite. Yeah, I prefer kydex, though well done leather is fine.
To be honest, being Lionsteel, I thought it'd be significantly more expensive, especially with currency conversion, so I've never seriously considered the purchase ....... now its in the crosshairs ; ) Cheers Duke.
TRC Mille Cuori or M1 beats both with a huge difference.
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Id say the SRK-C in 3v. Everything else is just branding and marketing.
Personally SRK-C in regular carbon steel is all anyone needs.
What work around camp need a 5in blade.
This is just more marketing for ridiculously overpriced knives.
$200 for a fixed blade is insane. But fools believe all the marketing