The old Hassan Piker method. Say some out of pocket shit confidently like you actually know what's going on -> Be proven factually wrong and look like a dumbass -> Pretend you never said the out of pocket shit in the first place and everyone correcting you is wrong -> Repeat step one.
Its pretty weird, she was sticking to art-related dramas and then suddenly she talked about Vtubers. Guess slandering real people with anime avatar is more rewarding than pointing out AI arts
The fact that she handles such important accusations so poorly that can negatively impact the victims is disgusting and she coutinues to make the same excuses and mistakes not learning. She shouldn't speak about drama because it's clear she can't handle it at all and fails to do the most basic of research.
There needs to be a financial penalty, I kind of like the Wiccan 3 fold rule, so for every add dollar the slander raises, each victim must be given 3 $3 sounds good.
"Is that HunterxHunter?" Dude, how much of an outsider can you be? I haven't watched that show yet and I will always be able to instantly recognize the main boys
Some people arent exposed to it. I first saw anime at like 14, and it took me until i was 19-21 area until i had actually seen enough of the show to be able to recognize it. (And thats cuz i literally watched the show) HxH isnt so ubiquitous as dragon ball or one piece
@@shirothefish9688 It's just under the Big Three. It's one of the most popular ones flat out, and it's not particularly old Besides, five years isn't particularly grounded in the hobby. Certainly not enough to be a drama channel in a closely related medium with any level of qualification. I'm pretty sure you've got plenty more exposure than this chick, too
@@shirothefish9688 For me I didn't finally get into HxH until 2022 and it has since become tied with JoJo at my number 2 spot. I really regret waiting so long to be honest.
@@remen_emperor I saw stuff like lucky star, death note, and soul eater before I even heard of it. (Those were in my first 5, actually) So free shrugs for ya.
@@AOT_HxH95 same On pretty much every account. I tend to shy away from the super popular stuff, cuz things that appeal to everyone generally don't appeal to me But it was indeed quite a worthwhile watch.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
Gatekeeping isn't toxic or petty. it's a necessity! Sadly, our fandoms didn't gatekeep harder enough. These social parasites will always be hungry to consume and destroy things that make people happy. Once they've had their fill and the corpse of your enjoyment lays there, they move on to the next thing to start a new feeding cycle.
@@marozomo mmm.. this guys right edit: its like pupa, but instead of the lil sister constantly eating her regenerating brother, its people who are just locusts who move from one corpse to another.. no crazy imouto, no empathetic onii chan, just bugs that consume and flee... god damn Pupa is a fucked up show
She made one of the cardinal female streamer mistakes. She thought that because she was Asian, the weeb simps would never come after her. She failed to realize that the weebs are VERY fickle.
The problem is that the only way to sue is by doxxing yourself. You have to put your government name on the lawsuit. Giving up your anonymity is probably not worth the low chance of winning a lawsuit.
always weird how the only "evidence" people bring are things said about fictional characters. like if taiga was a predator, there would be more than that.
I'm so tired of people (n0rmies and tourists) being so hysterical over fictional ""problematic"" content. I think there're many things they should think about instead of mad crusades against fiction.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@Umarudon Throw the "guess I'm a mass killing drug dealer Black guy in Los Angeles. Call the FBI, I need to be arrested.", because they always try and apply social guilt for one form of fiction they find disgusting when no one is being sexually assaulted but never for ones that could be seen as abhorrent and anti-social because no one is actually dying...they tried that shiz with GTA and it never panned out, so they gave up. They can't apply it to some things if they're not going to apply them to everything.
@@Umarudon absolutely agree. But it's easier for them to just sit on their high horse and tweet and cry about that instead of dealing with real problems. I do understand that you dont want to or cant deal with real problems, I would go crazy if I'd have to, I have to deal with depression and stuff already, but I also don't waste mine and anyone else's time and especially don't treat others badly, I just enjoy what I like. And I know that not a small number of antis are actually predators and try to deflect or they are 15 year olds who are legally not allowed to even consume any of that "problematic" stuff. Also the funniest and saddest stuff I've seen was antis crying about n0dity in Made in Abyss, but not about the violence and t0rture and worse stuff in it... bunch of hypocrites
This woman just will not shut up and learn her lesson already. She just refuses to take any responsibility and accountability. Poor Taiga doesn’t deserve all this shit
there are unfortunately quite a number of people who will report on situations stating "I don't know the whole picture" while painting in a very particular colour
>'I'm not gonna give my two cents' >has already given her two cents >continues to give two cents yet again, the arguments for a-logging and gatekeeping become stronger every day.
Can these people leave tagia alone? Tagia has been going through the same lies and slander for years now and he has denunked it numerous times and these people cant do the bare minimum to actually research or get tagia side when taiga has offered it. I feel so bad for tagia who has to constantly get beaten when he is already going through hard times. Side note youtube has declined to give tagia channel back because they only focus on partnered channels despite him literally being partnered. Tagia needs to take legal action at this point or something..
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
I swear it take five to 15 minutes to read the Google doc that prove that Taiga didn't do anything wrong , I swear this is getting Ridiculous at this point.
But for that, you have to find that document first. And well, one redeeming document vs many slanderous tweets and defaming documents, you find the defaming ones first. For katliente, who puts in basically no effort at all, even finding the slanderous documents is already a miracle. Wouldn't put it past her to base hr videos on a single tweet and never going beyond that one tweet.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@scrapeddiamonds5776 I know but I just thought it was funny. Only way real people would change is by....eh idk cause they will go back to being stupid
the thing that i noticed about her is that she doesnt try to do research, like at all. its all a cash grab and its so sad to see her content go from educational to drama
11:10 smh... see how she uses the allegedly only when talking about marina. she's trying to look like in the middle ground but her wording says otherwise. also "taiga is also or was problematic creator because i think they're not on the platform anymore" he's problematic because he was kicked?!?!?!? i facepalmed so hard i got a concussion.
Man, I recently almost gave into watching a video just to see if she was still as terrible or if she had improved. Now I'm glad that I didn't. Shame on people who don't actually research. They add absolutely nothing but more hate and pain to the situation.
@atumbr2000 my point was more of people openly & consistently slandering him because it generates clicks, and the only adverse effect they face is some negative comments or a video like this. That just gives them more of what they want: attention and/or clout. The platforms won't hold people to account unless they are literally forced to. Suing is usually cringe af, but this is justified. And I'm pretty sure he has a good claim. A legit lawsuit should sober up anyone to the reality of the situation
Taiga has been wronged for sure. That doesn’t change the fact that they’re still a weirdo that was towing the line of playing the Harry Potter game makes you a bad person and not an ally. I know this because I used to watch them and fell off around then.
😢Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
If she's not going to bother to look up actual information or research about it on this then I don't think she should be talking about it cuz all she's going to do is make herself look ignorant.
She should've stick to art drama. I used to watch her because on how well she points out the AI art and dramas... Then suddenly she jumped into Vtubers stuff, like, we already have numbers of Vtuber news channels. Not to mention her way of "reporting" them; its like she's just wanting the clout rather than just telling what's going on.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@MelonWaterMelon777 But she could recall it within seconds. Hardly a tourist, more like "I know what that is in passing, but I couldn't tell you what color it was."
She says she didn't have time to cover the Taiga situation because she was on vacation, yet that situation happened almost 2 years ago? Sounds like a lotta hoopla if you ask me.
She gave Marina an ounce of criticism. We all know what happens when you do that to Marina. Unless Kat does the scummy thing of using the Taiga criticism as mutual ground, we all know that Marina's not gonna take the ounce of criticism sitting down. Grab your popcorn when Marina finds out.
@@bromedyblank "omg i hate someone for no reason at all im just full of hate and anger so i take it out on other people who havent done anything wrong because i love jumping on fake bandwagons that were proven false"
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
I said this before where because of the previous incident, she's gonna feel like she has some sort of power and now she's going after more and more thinking she some hot shit. Her mentality is dangerous. Someone stop her.
why would a sociopath stop doing this? litterally no repercussion for the behaviour but it drives views. she has no internal monologue. this is all just for self interest.
Same for every other nerd space, really. Gaming, Tabletop, Fiction. The scourge of this generation is hypocritical, pseudo moralistic tourists that believe to be on a crusade.
She really is a tourist "I didn't know what shota means until recently" I don't understand why people who admit that they should not provide their opinions on a topic they know nothing about, gives their opinions on a topic they know nothing about
I don't really know him except some YT vids with his old model, but if it's just some jokes and exaggerated facetious banter, which uhhh... THE GAME GRUMPS DO, then - _hell yeah_ those ''trigender'' imbeciles with negative culture and knowledge need to leave him alone. Hicks
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
The fact I knew who you were talking about before I clicked the video. I can't believe I used to follow her before the content whiplash, If I want vtuber news or drama reports I'm not going to her for it especially when "I don't know the whole story" and only tell one side
Now now lets not get ahead of ourselves, getting off to fictional children is still somewhat pedophilic. Its weird, its wrong because its weird. Even so, taiga make dark jokes that were not meant to be taken serious from what i've seen from taiga.
Aome take it cuz they simply hate lolicons and such fkrneing weird degenerates, and cuz they see it as all pedophilia regardless of it being fictional characters. Just moral outrage by people who are honestly full of it when determining what should or shouldn't be allowed.
@@corruptbozo-um4by well womp womp. As long as this is not an actual real world child he is in fact allowed to enjoy it, and you can cry a river bout it. Because a big surprise! It is not in fact hurt in any way ANY real people
The circular reporting of slander and defamation in media needs to be looked into and punished harshly. The clout of reporting bs for views should be frowned upon across the internet.
*_"...I would really need a lot of context to understand ['I want to REDACTED little boys']..."_* If you don't have all of the details, then why are even talking about it in the first place? Even Mujin makes a concerted effort to do as much research on a subject as humanly possible before posting a video on it.
I stopped watching Mujin. He's alright, but I didn't subscribe to his channel for general news or video essays about drama, but for funny haha Genshin stuff. But yh, at least he seems to be very thorough most of the time.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
I was already soured on this woman by her video on the Pokémon TCG Art Contest. The loli Vtuber stuff was the icing on that cake. This situation now then would be the horribly bitter cherry on top.
It's important to note that by this point, what Taiga is experiencing is, in my opinion, not defamation, but defamation per se. "What is the difference?" you may be asking. The difference is that defamation requires two components: First, that the spreading of the defamatory information was malicious (i.e. they knew or reasonably should have known it was untrue, or even if they were not certain if it was true, they spread the information in an irresponsible way), and second, that the spreading of the defamatory information resulted in measurable damage in the form of lost sales, contracts, opportunities, &c. The defamed party must demonstrate that both are true. By contrast, defamation per se involves the spreading of defamatory information that is so outrageous and serious that the defamed party does _not_ need to demonstrate that damage has occurred because it is assumed to have occurred. They only need to prove that the spreading of the defamatory information was malicious. Given the nature of the defamatory information, and given that by this point it is easily shown to be untrue, it is my nonprofessional opinion that this is absolutely defamation per se, that Taiga absolutely has a case to make, that the case would be easily won, and that the case would be of sufficiently high profile that it would clear his name and destroy both Marina's and katliente's reputations (and Nuxtaku's as well, assuming he still has one). But what do I know?
The more and longer misinformation about such things is allowed to spread and fester, the less trustworthy actually genuine accusations of actual crimes become.
You can tell from the way she speaks that she's a tourist and doesn't have a single clue about what's happening. She's doing it for the views. A clout-chaser.
I definitely think you shouldn't pay for a gore commission of vtuber you dislike, however, Idgaf about what happens to marina in the slightest. I hope she gets banned off everything
She's always saying she didn't have time to research because she was on vacation "overseas." Is it really overseas if you're ALWAYS over there? When are you ever not overseas?
If she was just giving news it would be one thing but to give opinions on a situation she refuses to look further into is just silly. She has all the time in the world to make her videos. The youtube algorhythm sucks but with that type of content she can't be joined to the hip to it
It's the very definition of confirmation bias. She had a bias against those vtubers for superficial reasons and found "evidence" that supports her position while ignoring the evidence to the contrary.
I just want to express that there's basically a network of people at play here. Marina has association to Elara, whom learned about Taiga through Marina, who tutored HexJuice (because Elara has a scam mentorship program for vtubers), who probably learned of Taiga through Elara. There's a legit social chain to this bullshit. And who knows how far this network of drama vtubers extends. I could be wrong but I think Kenji also had association to Elara. She has a bunch of weirdos associated to her, really. They're all tied to each other in some way.
This straight some pure evil shit right here. Dude disproved the allegations and lost everything, and yet nobody cares to help petition this man to get his channel back and either beat him more while he's down or don't cover his situation because they are scared of the backlash- besides of course when they can cover for content like Rev...
I do like how she points out AI-created art and calls out AI-users posing as artists, but she's a dramatuber, yeah. She's also admitted, shamelessly I might add, to basically being a tourist. She didn't even know what shxtacon or lxlicon were until she Googled them, basically.
In a way it is worrying that she continues to do the same thing of not informing well and giving erroneous information,If she continues like this she will be condemning her career. This situation reminds me of a phrase my mother once told me and it goes like "if you don't know your own history you are condemned to repeat it", so if she doesn't learn from those mistakes she will make them again.
All her videos are full of misinformation. She just picks and chooses what fits her narrative, she's not someone who ever deserves a platform but here we are.
This isn't everything. She does, in my one experience, sell faulty stuff on Etsy and doesn't seem to answer when you submit a help ticket (I waited 3 weeks). Bought a set of overlays and was unable to get access to the animated ones due to a faulty link that gives a 404 error message. Tried to bring it to her attention 2 or 3 times but ended up submitting a case to Etsy to get a refund.
Let's see if people face her with the same amount of heat that everyone was/is sending NuxTakus way, who made one ill informed take 2 years ago and other than that just sucks at apologizing.
For someone who doesn’t know, she has a lot to say. It’s probably an echo chamber in her chat. They’re there for drama and controversy. It’s sad because I actually liked her videos before they went full nonsense.
Honestly I’d say Marina is worse than Nux. Nux said one really bad take, made a pinned comment and attempted albeit somewhat fumbled an apology on multiple occasions. Marina actively targeted Taiga and seemed to revel in trying to ruin him. And to my knowledge never actually apologized and even encouraged harassment post graduation
"I don't know the whole story but will talk about it as if it was true, no matter how damaging it might be in the long term!"
The old Hassan Piker method. Say some out of pocket shit confidently like you actually know what's going on -> Be proven factually wrong and look like a dumbass -> Pretend you never said the out of pocket shit in the first place and everyone correcting you is wrong -> Repeat step one.
let this digital footprint came back to her
Katliente needs to go ASAP, she already has inflicted enough demage.
Sounds like a typical clout chaser.
It's like saying the sky is blue, but she says it's been red forever because your rascist.
I have not regretted removing that channel from my recommendations one bit.
I think I did the same the first time Rev made a video about her 😂
I did when she said Filian didn't deserve to have a platform 😒
Never had her in my recommendations to begin with 😎
I don't do vtubers except if its a guy using a cute anime girl avatar
I did when I found out about the Lolipuff stuff. She's so malicious. It's a shame, because I thought her ai videos were quite good
Ah. That streamer is yet another streamer envious of Vtubers.
mind you, she defended said vtuber in the past... but idk what made her change.
@@scrapeddiamonds5776activists, that's about it
Honestly I don't think this is something done out of envious behavior. I think she's just dumb and lazy.
@@jarotheboar8398 Yeah, if her past controversy is a clue, then she's hanging out with antis now.
@@jarotheboar8398 More like drama farmer. She just picks a side that sounds good and uses it to virtue signal her quarter baked opinions.
Kat defending Marina? you know what they say garbage sticks to garbage.
Or Shit attracts Shit
@@zundeesteed birds of a feather flock together.
kant defending kantlientes
*She doesn’t do her research before spewing out ignorance to her Normie audience with no lives.*
*She doesn’t care, because she’s getting paid*
Its pretty weird, she was sticking to art-related dramas and then suddenly she talked about Vtubers. Guess slandering real people with anime avatar is more rewarding than pointing out AI arts
It's called Greed these people act like they care but they don't all they care about is money
She can destroy people’s lives like this. So irresponsible
The fact that she handles such important accusations so poorly that can negatively impact the victims is disgusting and she coutinues to make the same excuses and mistakes not learning. She shouldn't speak about drama because it's clear she can't handle it at all and fails to do the most basic of research.
There needs to be a financial penalty, I kind of like the Wiccan 3 fold rule, so for every add dollar the slander raises, each victim must be given 3
$3 sounds good.
"Is that HunterxHunter?"
Dude, how much of an outsider can you be? I haven't watched that show yet and I will always be able to instantly recognize the main boys
Some people arent exposed to it.
I first saw anime at like 14, and it took me until i was 19-21 area until i had actually seen enough of the show to be able to recognize it. (And thats cuz i literally watched the show)
HxH isnt so ubiquitous as dragon ball or one piece
@@shirothefish9688 It's just under the Big Three. It's one of the most popular ones flat out, and it's not particularly old
Besides, five years isn't particularly grounded in the hobby. Certainly not enough to be a drama channel in a closely related medium with any level of qualification. I'm pretty sure you've got plenty more exposure than this chick, too
@@shirothefish9688 For me I didn't finally get into HxH until 2022 and it has since become tied with JoJo at my number 2 spot. I really regret waiting so long to be honest.
@@remen_emperor I saw stuff like lucky star, death note, and soul eater before I even heard of it. (Those were in my first 5, actually)
So free shrugs for ya.
@@AOT_HxH95 same
On pretty much every account.
I tend to shy away from the super popular stuff, cuz things that appeal to everyone generally don't appeal to me
But it was indeed quite a worthwhile watch.
tourists are the worst thing that could happen to the things you love
This is why gatekeeping is essential and not "toxic", since malicious actors infiltrate and destroy.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
Gatekeeping isn't toxic or petty. it's a necessity!
Sadly, our fandoms didn't gatekeep harder enough. These social parasites will always be hungry to consume and destroy things that make people happy. Once they've had their fill and the corpse of your enjoyment lays there, they move on to the next thing to start a new feeding cycle.
like the DEI pushers in the gaming and movie industries right now o.O
@@marozomo mmm.. this guys right edit: its like pupa, but instead of the lil sister constantly eating her regenerating brother, its people who are just locusts who move from one corpse to another.. no crazy imouto, no empathetic onii chan, just bugs that consume and flee... god damn Pupa is a fucked up show
She made one of the cardinal female streamer mistakes. She thought that because she was Asian, the weeb simps would never come after her. She failed to realize that the weebs are VERY fickle.
Professionals have standards.
You just have to observe the waifu wars to see that. Weebs are VERY militant about their oshi's.😂😂😂
They prefer imports over the ones made in the west.
Wait which one is asian?
3d woman defecate, the sacred drawings dont, checkmate female streamer
Boutta start a channel where I slander the hell out of big channels then go right into vacation as an excuse.
Based
Do it. Just know that your channel will be deleted faster than you can get it started by the time your first video drops.
@@Asertix357They are going to be like keemstar. Not again please.
@@Asertix357 morons don't realize an obvious joke is an obvious joke, another day on the internet. [And yes, I mean you.]
Do it, I legit wanna see Marina cry on stream cause of ‘bigots’ who are really just calling her out for her career of constant garbage
If it can be proved that a person continues to spread information after having learned it is false is when it becomes 100% defamation case right?
Yes. Be it libel or slander
Also potentially tortious interference if somebody canceled a contract because of the slander
@@drthmik Yeah, thats one of the things Elon is fighting for in his defamation case right?
The problem is that the only way to sue is by doxxing yourself. You have to put your government name on the lawsuit. Giving up your anonymity is probably not worth the low chance of winning a lawsuit.
this
@Revsaysdesu
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always weird how the only "evidence" people bring are things said about fictional characters. like if taiga was a predator, there would be more than that.
I'm so tired of people (n0rmies and tourists) being so hysterical over fictional ""problematic"" content.
I think there're many things they should think about instead of mad crusades against fiction.
and all their "evidence" is just hearsay but it´s almost always taken as the one and only truth.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@Umarudon Throw the "guess I'm a mass killing drug dealer Black guy in Los Angeles. Call the FBI, I need to be arrested.", because they always try and apply social guilt for one form of fiction they find disgusting when no one is being sexually assaulted but never for ones that could be seen as abhorrent and anti-social because no one is actually dying...they tried that shiz with GTA and it never panned out, so they gave up. They can't apply it to some things if they're not going to apply them to everything.
@@Umarudon absolutely agree. But it's easier for them to just sit on their high horse and tweet and cry about that instead of dealing with real problems. I do understand that you dont want to or cant deal with real problems, I would go crazy if I'd have to, I have to deal with depression and stuff already, but I also don't waste mine and anyone else's time and especially don't treat others badly, I just enjoy what I like.
And I know that not a small number of antis are actually predators and try to deflect or they are 15 year olds who are legally not allowed to even consume any of that "problematic" stuff.
Also the funniest and saddest stuff I've seen was antis crying about n0dity in Made in Abyss, but not about the violence and t0rture and worse stuff in it... bunch of hypocrites
This woman just will not shut up and learn her lesson already. She just refuses to take any responsibility and accountability. Poor Taiga doesn’t deserve all this shit
It's sad that Kat's entire identity is being a clout thirsty content creator that doesn't do any research for her videos
She and SSSniperwolf would get along just fine.
Pretty much all she does is read out what others have put forward instead of any actual research, no effort what so ever
That also perfectly describes Sniperwolf, Pokimane, Keemstar, and pretty much every other big "react" or "drama" streamer...
That's most streamers nowadays sadly. Social media clout is the biggest addiction nowadays.
there are unfortunately quite a number of people who will report on situations stating "I don't know the whole picture" while painting in a very particular colour
>'I'm not gonna give my two cents'
>has already given her two cents
>continues to give two cents
yet again, the arguments for a-logging and gatekeeping become stronger every day.
Can these people leave tagia alone? Tagia has been going through the same lies and slander for years now and he has denunked it numerous times and these people cant do the bare minimum to actually research or get tagia side when taiga has offered it. I feel so bad for tagia who has to constantly get beaten when he is already going through hard times. Side note youtube has declined to give tagia channel back because they only focus on partnered channels despite him literally being partnered. Tagia needs to take legal action at this point or something..
FR, like all these people slandering taiga have done no research and are only doing it for clicks
Fr
It only stops when we cross the line.
Yeah legal action 100% at this point.
Out of 7 times of writing "Taiga" you wrote it correctly once. Or was that one time the actual typo? lol
She never properly researched the topic, so ofc she would do it again 😂
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
Hot Take: Don't cover Drama or news in communities you know you know nothing about. Furthermore, never half ass news.
And definitely don't half-ass accusations.
Taiga has more genuine, real character over this non vtuber ethot at any point in time
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
I swear it take five to 15 minutes to read the Google doc that prove that Taiga didn't do anything wrong , I swear this is getting Ridiculous at this point.
But for that, you have to find that document first. And well, one redeeming document vs many slanderous tweets and defaming documents, you find the defaming ones first. For katliente, who puts in basically no effort at all, even finding the slanderous documents is already a miracle. Wouldn't put it past her to base hr videos on a single tweet and never going beyond that one tweet.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
oh COME ON! when will she even learn?! she needs to be taught another lesson.
Even that one elderly fish on SpongeBob understood the lesson lol
@@XarronChaos an old fictional character got a char development, but ACTUAL people in this world did not, and will not learn
@@scrapeddiamonds5776 I know but I just thought it was funny. Only way real people would change is by....eh idk cause they will go back to being stupid
Darn, I was gonna comment that lol 🤣@@XarronChaos
@@XarronChaos ur right, it was funny, but its also true.
the thing that i noticed about her is that she doesnt try to do research, like at all. its all a cash grab and its so sad to see her content go from educational to drama
Good riddance, I guess. Sad to see
katliente has the most NPC vibe I've seen in a person.
lmfao she even sounds like THE tiktok voice lady
11:10 smh... see how she uses the allegedly only when talking about marina. she's trying to look like in the middle ground but her wording says otherwise. also "taiga is also or was problematic creator because i think they're not on the platform anymore" he's problematic because he was kicked?!?!?!? i facepalmed so hard i got a concussion.
because marina is trans so she won't to appear like a "good person" if she doesn't go soft ball on her.
But of course femboys no problem.
Internet crybullies smh. Should be legal consequences for these losers.
Legal and theocratic consequences.
Man, I recently almost gave into watching a video just to see if she was still as terrible or if she had improved. Now I'm glad that I didn't. Shame on people who don't actually research. They add absolutely nothing but more hate and pain to the situation.
Two of the worst kinds of people working together to be even worse.
They truly deserve each other.
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🐍 no step on snek!🇭🇰🇺🇸
ok no steppy 😊🤲🐍
You realize that she gave Marina an ounce of criticism, right? To Marina, that's starting a war.
Taiga needs a comeback of the century.
He needs to start suing
@@YaMuthasOnion i belive He maid a fundraiser for that, but i may be wrong
@atumbr2000 my point was more of people openly & consistently slandering him because it generates clicks, and the only adverse effect they face is some negative comments or a video like this. That just gives them more of what they want: attention and/or clout. The platforms won't hold people to account unless they are literally forced to. Suing is usually cringe af, but this is justified. And I'm pretty sure he has a good claim. A legit lawsuit should sober up anyone to the reality of the situation
No, he's disgusting
Taiga has been wronged for sure. That doesn’t change the fact that they’re still a weirdo that was towing the line of playing the Harry Potter game makes you a bad person and not an ally. I know this because I used to watch them and fell off around then.
At this point the Taiga situation is just *hate for sake of hate.*
My heart bleeds out for Taiga.
Same what an evil world we live in smh
I’m not a big fan of taiga for other reasons…but I’m still gonna give my sympathies for this cause….they didn’t deserve any of this.
@@blackgem12 Same here. Can't stand Taiga, but I also try to stay impartial and fair. This entire thing is beyond despicable...
😢Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
If she's not going to bother to look up actual information or research about it on this then I don't think she should be talking about it cuz all she's going to do is make herself look ignorant.
She should've stick to art drama.
I used to watch her because on how well she points out the AI art and dramas...
Then suddenly she jumped into Vtubers stuff, like, we already have numbers of Vtuber news channels. Not to mention her way of "reporting" them; its like she's just wanting the clout rather than just telling what's going on.
She knew HxH and not know what shota is. Unbelievable.
"knew" is a stretch. "Is that HxH" is a question. She is a tourist
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@MelonWaterMelon777 But she could recall it within seconds. Hardly a tourist, more like "I know what that is in passing, but I couldn't tell you what color it was."
@@DxBlack Bruh if you only know HxH through osmosis, you a tourist
She says she didn't have time to cover the Taiga situation because she was on vacation, yet that situation happened almost 2 years ago?
Sounds like a lotta hoopla if you ask me.
We're at this point where normal people aren't common anymore
"taiga is a problematic person"
"marina is allegedly problematic"
"but im not gonna throw my two cents in on that"
okay then
She gave Marina an ounce of criticism. We all know what happens when you do that to Marina. Unless Kat does the scummy thing of using the Taiga criticism as mutual ground, we all know that Marina's not gonna take the ounce of criticism sitting down. Grab your popcorn when Marina finds out.
I wish the FBI arrested her for that nonsense she made
Taiga needs to have his career resurrected.
No the fuck he doesn't lmao
@@bromedyblank Just admit you don't like people with fun upbeat personalities, bro.
@@bromedyblank "omg i hate someone for no reason at all im just full of hate and anger so i take it out on other people who havent done anything wrong because i love jumping on fake bandwagons that were proven false"
@@bromedyblankyes the f**k he does LMFAO
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
I'll go ahead and pull a woke and say she's bigoted against gender nonconforming men and is knowingly lying about taiga for it.
being too lazy to do research when the research is already done and all the info there and not looking for it is crazy
"Too many people have opinions on things they know nothing about. The more ignorant they are, the more opinions they have."
I said this before where because of the previous incident, she's gonna feel like she has some sort of power and now she's going after more and more thinking she some hot shit. Her mentality is dangerous. Someone stop her.
why would a sociopath stop doing this?
litterally no repercussion for the behaviour but it drives views. she has no internal monologue. this is all just for self interest.
I like to compare the Vtuber space with Mallorca. A nice Place, but Tourists are ruining it all the time.
Justice for Taiga!
Same for every other nerd space, really.
Gaming, Tabletop, Fiction.
The scourge of this generation is hypocritical, pseudo moralistic tourists that believe to be on a crusade.
Omfg man C'mon already...he's already been through so much :/
I missed when people who didn't know shit about a specific topic/community won't talk about it in fear of spreading misinformation.
Some people just never learn
Gotta love a Tourist with Kool-Aid Hair. Also anyone who has a problem with Taiga definitely has some Skeletons In their Closet.
it just frustrates me to the point of crying that these hacks can just ruin peoples' lives and barely get a slap on the wrist
As the saying goes: "Money talks and assholes walk."
She really is a tourist "I didn't know what shota means until recently"
I don't understand why people who admit that they should not provide their opinions on a topic they know nothing about, gives their opinions on a topic they know nothing about
These people need to leave my Taiga alone :(
I don't really know him except some YT vids with his old model, but if it's just some jokes and exaggerated facetious banter, which uhhh... THE GAME GRUMPS DO, then - _hell yeah_ those ''trigender'' imbeciles with negative culture and knowledge need to leave him alone. Hicks
Your Taiga? Debatable
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
The fact I knew who you were talking about before I clicked the video. I can't believe I used to follow her before the content whiplash, If I want vtuber news or drama reports I'm not going to her for it especially when "I don't know the whole story" and only tell one side
1:18 - And now one of them has graduated. I hope lil RiriCore is doing better offline now.
That tea art in the beginning is such a mood as a tea lover.
Even if Taiga is a what they're saying he is. So what? There's nothing wrong with liking fictional characters.
Now now lets not get ahead of ourselves, getting off to fictional children is still somewhat pedophilic.
Its weird, its wrong because its weird. Even so, taiga make dark jokes that were not meant to be taken serious from what i've seen from taiga.
Ya see turtle
People like her just want to Look like she's covering news
Without the work
Nor give people the benefit of the doubt
@@TheLuuman bruh, no it's not pedophilic. There is a clear difference between a stylised anime character (loli/shota) and a real child
@@TheLuumanthats like calling guys gay for liking straight pron cause they see a guy in it.
Tbh, i think there are allegations of him having certain communications with a real minor. If that part's true, then that's a yikes.
How long can one person continue to make piss poor excuses for bad faith research and remain relevant?
A very long time in the case of Hasan.
A lot of people are taking up a story without context and only using it for clout.
Which is worse than doing nothing
Aome take it cuz they simply hate lolicons and such fkrneing weird degenerates, and cuz they see it as all pedophilia regardless of it being fictional characters.
Just moral outrage by people who are honestly full of it when determining what should or shouldn't be allowed.
taiga made some colorful comments about some anime characters he thought were cute as a teenager... ohhhh no?
Oh no, not the fictional children, will anyone think of the fictional paper children?
@@Fernybun bet you watch r34 of lolis
@@corruptbozo-um4by well womp womp. As long as this is not an actual real world child he is in fact allowed to enjoy it, and you can cry a river bout it. Because a big surprise! It is not in fact hurt in any way ANY real people
The circular reporting of slander and defamation in media needs to be looked into and punished harshly.
The clout of reporting bs for views should be frowned upon across the internet.
*_"...I would really need a lot of context to understand ['I want to REDACTED little boys']..."_*
If you don't have all of the details, then why are even talking about it in the first place? Even Mujin makes a concerted effort to do as much research on a subject as humanly possible before posting a video on it.
The context: Inspect Element and changing the text.
@@Mario583a Idk about that specific one, so was that actually a fake screenshot of manipulated text just for slander?
I stopped watching Mujin. He's alright, but I didn't subscribe to his channel for general news or video essays about drama, but for funny haha Genshin stuff. But yh, at least he seems to be very thorough most of the time.
Taiga asked for nudes of a 17 year old. That's called soliciting for child porn. Can you explain why you're defending a pedo? Because he's attractive????😂😂😂😂
@@Mario583a is that actually true? is that actually what happened?
cause if so then wtf
She really is one to reignite drama already over/resolved, huh?
tourist breadtubers are a plague. always pray that your niche hobby doesn't get invaded
I was already soured on this woman by her video on the Pokémon TCG Art Contest. The loli Vtuber stuff was the icing on that cake. This situation now then would be the horribly bitter cherry on top.
It's important to note that by this point, what Taiga is experiencing is, in my opinion, not defamation, but defamation per se.
"What is the difference?" you may be asking. The difference is that defamation requires two components: First, that the spreading of the defamatory information was malicious (i.e. they knew or reasonably should have known it was untrue, or even if they were not certain if it was true, they spread the information in an irresponsible way), and second, that the spreading of the defamatory information resulted in measurable damage in the form of lost sales, contracts, opportunities, &c. The defamed party must demonstrate that both are true.
By contrast, defamation per se involves the spreading of defamatory information that is so outrageous and serious that the defamed party does _not_ need to demonstrate that damage has occurred because it is assumed to have occurred. They only need to prove that the spreading of the defamatory information was malicious.
Given the nature of the defamatory information, and given that by this point it is easily shown to be untrue, it is my nonprofessional opinion that this is absolutely defamation per se, that Taiga absolutely has a case to make, that the case would be easily won, and that the case would be of sufficiently high profile that it would clear his name and destroy both Marina's and katliente's reputations (and Nuxtaku's as well, assuming he still has one).
But what do I know?
It's funny how she just happens to be overseas every time people try to call her out on something.
> she didnt know what a shota was until 3 months into making these videos
holy tourist
Unfortunately, the Western Vtubing scene is full of these kind of tourists now.
The more and longer misinformation about such things is allowed to spread and fester, the less trustworthy actually genuine accusations of actual crimes become.
You can tell from the way she speaks that she's a tourist and doesn't have a single clue about what's happening. She's doing it for the views. A clout-chaser.
Here we go again....
I feel sorry for Taiga he has to deal with dumbass bullies who can’t ignore him.
I wish i could say im surprised, but why would anyone be...
This stupid talking point from these fake fans that you're a pedo if you are a fan of Hunter x Hunter is not new sadly. I've seen it alot.
On god i was so pissed when i heard what she said about taiga.
Bungo Taiga vs. Katliente (Mortal Kombat Edition)
Obligatory "It is not, I resent that! Slander is spoken, in print it's libel."
Omg SHE'S AT IT AGAIN?! Idk why I'm suprised
I definitely think you shouldn't pay for a gore commission of vtuber you dislike, however, Idgaf about what happens to marina in the slightest. I hope she gets banned off everything
She's always saying she didn't have time to research because she was on vacation "overseas." Is it really overseas if you're ALWAYS over there? When are you ever not overseas?
I did not regret removing that channel from my recommendations one bit. Good riddance.
5:40 when cat read tiger's tweet about not looking deeper and Seeing the surface level is so ironic because that is exactly what cat is doing
If she was just giving news it would be one thing but to give opinions on a situation she refuses to look further into is just silly. She has all the time in the world to make her videos. The youtube algorhythm sucks but with that type of content she can't be joined to the hip to it
It's the very definition of confirmation bias. She had a bias against those vtubers for superficial reasons and found "evidence" that supports her position while ignoring the evidence to the contrary.
I just want to express that there's basically a network of people at play here. Marina has association to Elara, whom learned about Taiga through Marina, who tutored HexJuice (because Elara has a scam mentorship program for vtubers), who probably learned of Taiga through Elara. There's a legit social chain to this bullshit. And who knows how far this network of drama vtubers extends. I could be wrong but I think Kenji also had association to Elara. She has a bunch of weirdos associated to her, really. They're all tied to each other in some way.
This straight some pure evil shit right here. Dude disproved the allegations and lost everything, and yet nobody cares to help petition this man to get his channel back and either beat him more while he's down or don't cover his situation because they are scared of the backlash- besides of course when they can cover for content like Rev...
I do like how she points out AI-created art and calls out AI-users posing as artists, but she's a dramatuber, yeah. She's also admitted, shamelessly I might add, to basically being a tourist. She didn't even know what shxtacon or lxlicon were until she Googled them, basically.
Disgusting, ppl should really do their own research instead of blindly following the words of another, then again that's probably asking to much
In a way it is worrying that she continues to do the same thing of not informing well and giving erroneous information,If she continues like this she will be condemning her career.
This situation reminds me of a phrase my mother once told me and it goes like "if you don't know your own history you are condemned to repeat it", so if she doesn't learn from those mistakes she will make them again.
All her videos are full of misinformation. She just picks and chooses what fits her narrative, she's not someone who ever deserves a platform but here we are.
This isn't everything.
She does, in my one experience, sell faulty stuff on Etsy and doesn't seem to answer when you submit a help ticket (I waited 3 weeks).
Bought a set of overlays and was unable to get access to the animated ones due to a faulty link that gives a 404 error message. Tried to bring it to her attention 2 or 3 times but ended up submitting a case to Etsy to get a refund.
Let's see if people face her with the same amount of heat that everyone was/is sending NuxTakus way, who made one ill informed take 2 years ago and other than that just sucks at apologizing.
"im not gonna comment on XYZ since im not informed enough BUT in my opinion (...)" type beat
For someone who doesn’t know, she has a lot to say. It’s probably an echo chamber in her chat. They’re there for drama and controversy. It’s sad because I actually liked her videos before they went full nonsense.
Journalistic Integrity has been long dead at this point. But this i think puts the nail in the coffin.
Zero accountability culture
She’s projecting. It’s always projection with “people” like this.
Honestly I’d say Marina is worse than Nux. Nux said one really bad take, made a pinned comment and attempted albeit somewhat fumbled an apology on multiple occasions.
Marina actively targeted Taiga and seemed to revel in trying to ruin him. And to my knowledge never actually apologized and even encouraged harassment post graduation
The Bungo Slander doubles as a litness test to gauge ones sanity.
It’s crazy how many people have a hate boner for Taiga. TF he do??
Taiga literally needs to stop being targeted like holy fuck