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  • @ryza_hd
    @ryza_hd 5 місяців тому +397

    Not so fun fact about Mega Kangaskhan: some of its pokedex entries say the mother's actually really concerned about her child growing up so suddenly and being so eager to fight alongside her. Great mom, terrible trainer.

    • @BAMLIFETKD
      @BAMLIFETKD 5 місяців тому +21

      Now I feel bad for always having a mega kangaskhan on my team

    • @azulesmalls5514
      @azulesmalls5514 5 місяців тому +38

      All Mega Pokedex entries appeared in Sun and Moon where they were pushing the Z-move mechanic.

    • @supernerdgio
      @supernerdgio 5 місяців тому +6

      Great now I'm sad 😭😭😭

    • @vernessawashington9007
      @vernessawashington9007 5 місяців тому +33

      ​@@azulesmalls5514its pretty obvious that alolan trainers didnt have enough of a bond with there mons and this was the result painful megas

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 5 місяців тому +15

      ​@@vernessawashington9007 never understood the bond thing, you can literally Mega Evolve a mon u caught a second ago, where's the bond in that?

  • @tipjrjr326
    @tipjrjr326 5 місяців тому +94

    Matpat: feature his kid in his theories
    Patterz: rip, he didnt die, he has a kid now or something

    • @jakk2631
      @jakk2631 5 місяців тому +1

      Uh?!

    • @CrimsonTy
      @CrimsonTy 5 місяців тому +12

      "He has a kid now or something"
      Yeah... 6 years ago

    • @rushalias8511
      @rushalias8511 5 місяців тому +1

      Rip means retire in peace

  • @ShayTheValiant
    @ShayTheValiant 5 місяців тому +215

    Not exactly on topic, but Mega Absol should have been a Dark/Fairy type.

    • @Axeky
      @Axeky 5 місяців тому +16

      YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

    • @insomniacnerd5592
      @insomniacnerd5592 5 місяців тому +10

      You’re spitting.

    • @pro.hollywood
      @pro.hollywood 5 місяців тому +9

      I agree. Until recently I thought it already was.

    • @hilow97
      @hilow97 5 місяців тому +2

      Is... is it not already?

    • @ShayTheValiant
      @ShayTheValiant 5 місяців тому +5

      @@hilow97 Nope, Mega Absol has always been a pure Dark type.

  • @foggy8298
    @foggy8298 5 місяців тому +31

    Yes, inner focus is also immune to intimidate along with being immune to flinching. This makes inner focus a surprisingly versatile ability in VGC, being immune to fake out and not getting attack lowered from Pokémon like Inceneroar or Salamence makes it a top 10 or even top 5 ability when not including exclusive abilities, as you don’t often run direct stat lowering moves in vgc. The most you get is will-o-wisp or something, especially since scald is now much more limited.
    That’s why entei is being used again. A fairly bulky and fairly fast physically strong fire type ( so immune to burn) that can’t be flinched and intimidate doesn’t work on it, meaning you aren’t ever lowering its attack except with like parting shot? It’s pretty good

  • @AlexDayz
    @AlexDayz 5 місяців тому +70

    One thing that sucks about megas is they gave it to Pokémon who don’t evolve or only evolve once, because in this generation (gen 9) they did finally begin to give older Pokémon permanent evolutions again like Kingambit, Dudunsparce, Annihilape, etc. I would’ve much rather they gave Mawile its Mega design as a permanent evolution than a temporary one.

    • @giorosiles2220
      @giorosiles2220 5 місяців тому +5

      So true my man hope they finally give the single stage or 2 stage pokemon evo someday hope and wish within my heart for it☹️

    • @SummerTokyoNeko
      @SummerTokyoNeko 5 місяців тому +5

      Nah, they can still do that, I mean look at G-Max Duralodon, he got a Gigantamax form and an evolution in the next generation

    • @AlexDayz
      @AlexDayz 5 місяців тому +4

      @@SummerTokyoNeko Yes, but they established not fully evolved Pokémon can get G-Max forms. The preorder bonus was even a G-Max Meowth. Not to mention that Megas have been the only gimmick so far to not be confined to one generation like Z-Moves, G-Max, and probably Tera. They were in Gen 7 (prominently in Let’s Go), They’re in Pokémon Go, Pokémon Spin-offs like Mystery Dungeon, Smash Bros, etc. and they’re returning in PLZ-A (a Gen 9 game)

  • @ultimatex1334
    @ultimatex1334 5 місяців тому +27

    "Why wouldn't you run a mega?"
    *flashbacks to UCL where PK didn't run a mega one season*

    • @blazeknight2629
      @blazeknight2629 4 місяці тому

      I think that has been the standard for any gimmick for the first season iirc

  • @Poke-ladd
    @Poke-ladd 5 місяців тому +85

    I liked megas but I did wish more lesser loved or weaker Pokémon got the mega treatment and made them viable to some extent- Venomoth or Mightyena etc

    • @Fr4yDay
      @Fr4yDay 5 місяців тому +19

      I get that, but I’d prefer it if Mightyena got a regular evolution. Its BST is low enough to be a common mid-stage, and an evolution would be a more permanent buff. Who knows how long Megas are gonna be back?

    • @StarChargerStudios
      @StarChargerStudios 5 місяців тому +1

      Tbf there are a few more niche pokemon that got megas. Like nobody was out there repping beedrill

    • @marcorodriguez8792
      @marcorodriguez8792 5 місяців тому

      Nah man. Let them weak pokemon stay weak. Just as we have strong and powerful Pokemon we too need weak and pathetic pokemon

    • @devilrider39000000
      @devilrider39000000 5 місяців тому +1

      Those mons need a straight up regular evolution, not megas

  • @TheMostAdvancedPoketuberEver
    @TheMostAdvancedPoketuberEver 5 місяців тому +20

    00:11
    "Its not all guns and roses"
    well oviously, you have your extra power, type, ability, stats, pain and eternal suffering, death, set ups, sweeps,
    But apart from that, it is just guns and roses

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 5 місяців тому +36

    I actually like the vibes of all the gimmicks. The super finishing move vibe of Z moves and the music whenever a Pokemon dynamaxes helps up the enjoyment and tera is just fun. As long as you can be dramatic doing it then it passes the vibe check

    • @seandorama5932
      @seandorama5932 5 місяців тому +8

      I agree all of them are awesome.
      I just hate it when people say the gimmicks or the games that house them are bad just because it isn’t Mega Evolution, they all deserve to be in the spotlight, not just only Megas

    • @Chara_Dreemurr1
      @Chara_Dreemurr1 5 місяців тому +4

      HEAVEN SCORCHING LIGHT OF DESTRUCTION! (Light that burns the sky)

    • @The_Big_Jay
      @The_Big_Jay Місяць тому

      I found most Z moves just be a free delete button, and Dynamaxing, despite doubling your health, boosting your moves, and making your pokemon 50 times taller felt really limp wristed.
      Terastalizing is fun though, not too much to complain about. It aesthetically looks terrible, but that has nothing to do with the gameplay. I just wish the gym leaders didn't use it in the literal worst way possible.

  • @TotallyCluelessGamer
    @TotallyCluelessGamer 5 місяців тому +3

    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel as though in Gen 7 they already knew that Mega-Pokemon wouldn't come back in Gen 8. Its kind of suspicious how they suddenly decided Mega-Pokemon get pokedex entries and most of them are effectively "This Pokemon would probably rather be dead than be mega evolved."

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 5 місяців тому +38

    I'd prefer proper evolutions over megas just because they're more permanent. Heck Kingambit and Annihilape were great evolutions and finally gave them a leg up in comp........probably.
    If there are new megas I hope to god they keep it for the pokemon that NEED a boost and not popular sake.
    I'll probably use Mega Mawile in Legend ZA cause it's a dope design, I just wish it was a proper evolution.

    • @Aozame
      @Aozame 5 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, that. Mega evolutions and REAL evolutions share the same design space, and pretty much every mega form given to a single/two-stage Pokemon should have been a real one instead.

    • @theamazingspooderman2697
      @theamazingspooderman2697 5 місяців тому +2

      exactly this

  • @zephdoesthings
    @zephdoesthings 5 місяців тому +5

    "Mega Mawile is my favorite mega"
    Same dude.

  • @mettatonex7221
    @mettatonex7221 5 місяців тому +40

    No, I'm going to push back so hard on something you said: I am so happy that we have a series of Pokemon games that are solely focused on the single player experience, and I do not want that taken away from me. Do NOT add pvps to Legends Z-A. Keep that to the more standard titles.

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 5 місяців тому +4

      He's content pilled, he just wants to do "then we fight" videos with those games.

    • @glitchking2801
      @glitchking2801 5 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@numberhunter62and like fair but all and all I do want them to stay single player

    • @someonerandom8511
      @someonerandom8511 5 місяців тому +6

      Okay but like, you could just not play the multiplayer.

    • @mettatonex7221
      @mettatonex7221 5 місяців тому

      @@someonerandom8511 Okay but like, they could just not make the multiplayer.
      I'm not saying multiplayer is bad. The multiplayer is part of the lifeblood of the main titles. I'm just glad that we have a mainline series that doesn't feel the need to balance around it and dedicates more resources to the world.

    • @someonerandom8511
      @someonerandom8511 5 місяців тому

      @@mettatonex7221 the issue is that people who don't want to play multiplayer have the option of not playing it, but so many people use and love online battling, and if it doesn't exust they don't have the same option and are forced to not use it

  • @ayooladunjoye6883
    @ayooladunjoye6883 5 місяців тому +23

    mega Charizard z confirmed, because he doesn't have enough forms yet

    • @Max-je1dx
      @Max-je1dx 5 місяців тому +1

      You just WANT to have Infinite evolutions same

    • @Void_Echoes
      @Void_Echoes 5 місяців тому +3

      they can’t make Mega Charizard Z yet, they still need to announce his tera form

    • @Max-je1dx
      @Max-je1dx 5 місяців тому

      @@Void_Echoes he ALREADY have it every Pokemon have it Bro you have dumb crown on your head thats all

    • @iloveiceberglettuce
      @iloveiceberglettuce 5 місяців тому +4

      No he don't,where is my Charizard-tera type?which turns a Pokemon into Charizard (less cool though)​@@Max-je1dx

    • @f2pislife663
      @f2pislife663 5 місяців тому

      Mewtwo Z

  • @LockeWick
    @LockeWick 5 місяців тому +36

    My problem with “Give them just to the weaker Pokémon” is… why give a temporary buff that makes them viable when that whole design could have just been an actual evolution instead?
    This is biggest issue with megas, when given to powerful Pokémon it breaks comp but when given to weaker Pokémon that isn’t already at a three stage evo… why not just have given them an actual evolution? This also basically blocks those weak Pokémon from getting future evolutions, their only hope is for a regional variant.
    Megas are cool but it is such an absolute wasteful gimmick.

    • @seandorama5932
      @seandorama5932 5 місяців тому +4

      True, GameFreak is gonna have a tough time trying to find a Pokemon with the right balance of needing a buff but also being complete design and stat wise

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 5 місяців тому +2

      I feel that if a Pokémon is a 2 or three stage line and doesn’t atleast have a bst of 500 give it a mega especially if it’s a 3 stage with below 500 bst.

    • @LordTyph
      @LordTyph 5 місяців тому

      Easy solution, just make the mega evolution into the next evolution in some way.

  • @Jdrunnin
    @Jdrunnin 5 місяців тому +10

    Terastalization would be a great mechanic to keep from game to game also. It adds a ton to the competitive scene both in official vgc and unofficial stuff

  • @bug1gub225
    @bug1gub225 15 днів тому

    I think that they could add for the start of single player a side effect to the megas, like losing a bit of hp every turn, became wild, use more power point after the mega end, need a high frindship level to have without the side effect or a weaker one and using this to help with the story for the player and the npcs.

  • @insomniacnerd5592
    @insomniacnerd5592 5 місяців тому +46

    The fact that I can actually see them giving Charizard a new special something is kinda concerning, right?

  • @Orpheu5S
    @Orpheu5S 5 місяців тому +2

    I didn't know you were a Mawile appreciator, glad to see my girl being recognized.

  • @HouseHawk62
    @HouseHawk62 5 місяців тому +4

    Megas and Terra are my two favorite mechanics that they’ve done since Gen 6 and both are great in concept but in execution? Whoo boy. Megas specifically they turned into merch and fan service very quickly because why the FUCK did Mewtwo need ONE mega, let alone two?! Why did SALAMENCE need one?! A Pokémon already broken in singles who was in UBERS and still good in doubles?!
    If megas where more balanced and properly distributed to okish/struggling Pokémon then it would be so much better.

  • @shadowofchaos7675
    @shadowofchaos7675 5 місяців тому +4

    The funniest thing to me is that megaevolutions remind me extremly of digivolution😂

  • @lordfreezer5631
    @lordfreezer5631 4 місяці тому +1

    My problem with megas, outside of the competitive aspect, are some of the designs that are objectively a downgrade compared to the base design of that Pokémon. Like mega Salamence, mega Heracross, mega Steelix, etc.

  • @JacobDavid9125
    @JacobDavid9125 5 місяців тому +3

    You should react to Lockstin’s most recent mega video he had a really interesting take on Megas I’d like to hear your thoughts on

  • @YipYapYoshi
    @YipYapYoshi 5 місяців тому +7

    I think giving megas to weak pokemon as a bandage fix is bad, especially to ones that dont even have 2 or 3 stages in their evo line. Mawile, Heracross, Pinsir, etc should have just gotten an evolution.

  • @TheChocoboKid
    @TheChocoboKid 5 місяців тому +2

    Merch is King, he is right. The US Pokemoncenter is a fraction of what they release in Japan.

    • @DaSheepKiller
      @DaSheepKiller 5 місяців тому +3

      Merch is also their biggest source of profit by far. Far more than mainline games or even mobile games.

  • @JRPOGM
    @JRPOGM 5 місяців тому +8

    I dont wanna see Mega Urshifu in Gen 10.

  • @AJUniverse
    @AJUniverse 5 місяців тому +1

    9:05, yeah, but, like, it hatches with that baby already there. That's clearly not really it's baby, it's part of the Pokémon. Like Doduo's second head.

  • @code-x7354
    @code-x7354 5 місяців тому +1

    Didnt expect moxie but hope you check out lockstins take on why too

  • @LosJoshh
    @LosJoshh 5 місяців тому +1

    9:10 tbf, pretty similar what som animals do in the wild, gotta learn to fight/defend for yourself eventually 😭

  • @mobious01
    @mobious01 4 місяці тому +2

    I never understood the hype behind megas tbh

  • @JamienautMark2
    @JamienautMark2 5 місяців тому +2

    I just want my guy Mega Pinsir back

  • @veen6847
    @veen6847 5 місяців тому +1

    Does mega evolution really need a 100 increase in bst? What if beedrill gets a 150 bst while legendaries get a slight buff in their bst?

  • @7raziel7
    @7raziel7 5 місяців тому +1

    If strong pokemon get 100 bst then weaker ones should get 200 bst increase
    Either that or give suboptimal even bad abilities to strong ones and super strong abilities to the weaker pokemon

  • @Pikaboy_10
    @Pikaboy_10 5 місяців тому

    Me and my dad used to destroy the battle tree in gen 7 using a combo of Mega salamence and Tapu Koko (for my team) and Chandelure and Mega Kangaskhan for his the chandelure was scarfed and tapu koko was Electrium Z and Salamence's main damaging move for flying was Aerialate boosted Return (it could take blissy out in a single turn with them both going for it without trouble)

  • @timaeustanis
    @timaeustanis 5 місяців тому +14

    Legends ZAZA 💀💀💀💀💀

  • @XxILikePie03
    @XxILikePie03 3 місяці тому

    4:45 Banette 455 BST spells ass 😂

  • @C-Kipp
    @C-Kipp 5 місяців тому +1

    Megas are cool in draft league because the stupid stuff is banned and there is variety with weaker megas being able to shine

  • @kev2koy993
    @kev2koy993 5 місяців тому

    15:53 bro said "3 mouths, Imagine 3 mouths(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)"

  • @aprilhippie8752
    @aprilhippie8752 5 місяців тому +1

    14:23 Daniel lets be honest you are probably the only one who wants a Mega Maractus let alone even remembers it exsists.
    Hell I'm sure most of us your viewers/subscribers forget it exsists until you bring Maractus up.😅

  • @The_One_In_Black
    @The_One_In_Black 5 місяців тому +1

    Triple battles escaped their home generation.

  • @tbone6032
    @tbone6032 5 місяців тому +1

    For then we fights in legends ZA could always catch the mons in that game and then fight with them in another

  • @yotambraunshtein9786
    @yotambraunshtein9786 5 місяців тому +1

    If mega charizard z is announced i eat a shoe

  • @mbeasley90
    @mbeasley90 5 місяців тому +3

    "There's no one there. It's my cat." 😹

  • @christopherjohnson6863
    @christopherjohnson6863 5 місяців тому +1

    I loved him saying godzilla with an Asian accent lol its godzirra!

  • @camrynhenry3895
    @camrynhenry3895 5 місяців тому +4

    I like (not love) megas but oustide of starters, I kinda wish Megas were for Pokemon that actually need it, like Absol or mawhile

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 5 місяців тому +3

      True but honestly they should’ve just evolved regularly.

  • @codm22712
    @codm22712 5 місяців тому

    1:22 and the let’s go games

  • @blazeknight2629
    @blazeknight2629 4 місяці тому

    Why we still having the debate that the Let’s Go games aren’t canon? Aside from that, megas are a fun gimmick but the fact that they’re not as universal as z moves, gigantimax/dynamax, and Tera makes them less conventionally playable. That’s not even to mention that they could always screwup and make the mega less viable like Garchomp, and while it’s not the case for the majority, it kinda sets a precedent for any actual viable mons getting just worse megas

  • @Pedroduroqui
    @Pedroduroqui 5 місяців тому +4

    I think megas shoud cap at 600 BST and for those that are way too near from 600 (like 570 or +) a +50 BST, looks at least more fair

    • @jakk2631
      @jakk2631 5 місяців тому

      Yes that sounds good to me

  • @JSGypsum
    @JSGypsum 5 місяців тому +2

    as an avid ampharos lover, the only reason he isn't top tier is because there are so many OP electric flying pokemon which takes away electric's one weakness, plus regieleki who is just op

  • @frankwhite2072
    @frankwhite2072 5 місяців тому

    You named your cat Junichi Masuda?

  • @blazeneon5701
    @blazeneon5701 5 місяців тому

    9:46 I think the baby got mega evolved bc it’s the only thing that changed

  • @noahcarver6133
    @noahcarver6133 5 місяців тому +10

    They should implement a stat buff for normal Pokémon. Example. You use Charizardite Y to get mega Charizard Y or you could use a universal mega stone on your Gogoat. The Gogoat doesn’t get a special form but it gets a stat buff equivalent to mega evolution.

    • @jakk2631
      @jakk2631 5 місяців тому +3

      I like this idea, and makes seans if you look at pokeken

    • @Ford-Anglia
      @Ford-Anglia 5 місяців тому +3

      But then they’d have to code in a stat buff for EVERY Pokémon

    • @noahcarver6133
      @noahcarver6133 5 місяців тому

      @@Ford-Anglia Yes but it’s a general stat buff. Pokémon with unique Megas should get unique Stat buffs. These special buffs should equal the same number btw. Example: Mega Beedrill and Mega Metagross get buffs to different specific stats but they only get like a 100 overall stat point buff. While the universal stat buff is the same. They could have multiple universal mega stones. Is it a lot of programming, yes. Will GameFreak do this, 99% chance it’s a no. Does it balance out megas while letting specific Pokémon get cool forms and not power creep others, id like to think so.

    • @AedraRising
      @AedraRising 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Ford-Anglia I mean, for a universal Mega Stone couldn't you just make it a generic +20 to everything?

  • @devinknox7558
    @devinknox7558 5 місяців тому

    scizor with life orb has better damage output than mega scizor.

  • @jfb173jb
    @jfb173jb 5 місяців тому +7

    Wasn't the reason megas were popular was just because it was the first big pokemon gimmick? In that regard, its kinda like the gen 1 of gimmicks. And all those demanding it come back are much like genwunners.

    • @RooftopRose079
      @RooftopRose079 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I’d say a lot of that hype is nostalgia. Mega Evolution has a lot of technical and narrative problems that fans tend to dismiss. They tried a fan-pandering method, it got overhyped, game developers realized they overreached and now they’re trying to find a permanent mechanic that balances all the intricacies without breaking the game that also doesn’t drain their financial department to accomplish.

  • @rileyackison4495
    @rileyackison4495 2 місяці тому

    Matpat I don’t love megas. I like them but not love them. Also did anyone else come to this video from the original one.

  • @rileyackison4495
    @rileyackison4495 2 місяці тому

    Just give mawhile an evolution and use mega mawhile’s design

  • @DuFloofyBurb
    @DuFloofyBurb 5 місяців тому +5

    We need mega jumpluff

  • @TheMostAdvancedPoketuberEver
    @TheMostAdvancedPoketuberEver 5 місяців тому

    1:06
    Please tell me what you saw!!!

  • @ligma3658
    @ligma3658 5 місяців тому

    Hey patterz, u heard about the 2nd Punic war?

  • @sadraccoonboy
    @sadraccoonboy 5 місяців тому +5

    I’ve never liked megas and I’m so not looking forward to them being back. Having it be such a select pool of Pokemon, and having like half of those mons already be insanely powerful was just such a huge misstep. I know merch and whatever but as a mechanic it totally ruined it for me. I do really wish they’d keep megas away and just start buffing weaker mons instead, or giving them actual evos like they did for Bisharp and Primape. So much potential that was just taken away for the generations that had megas imo. Also for even not in game, just saying you don’t like megas at least used to get a bunch of people yelling at you for being wrong and I’m so sick of that lmao 😭

  • @ProdByClockwerk
    @ProdByClockwerk 5 місяців тому +1

    Pinsir has always been my second favorite generation one non since I first played yellow version in the late 90s and it still to this day my third favorite, Pokémon. However, ever since I first saw him, I was jealous because scyther had wings and he didn’t. When I saw mega pincer, and it could fly, I nearly shit my pants right on the spot in pure happiness.

  • @kateparsons4283
    @kateparsons4283 5 місяців тому +2

    primal groudon and kyogre are not megas im pretty sure?

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 4 місяці тому +1

      They aren't megas in lore. But conceptually they are just a mega that activates at the start of the battle, they just have a different quirky name. The same can be said for Ash-Greninja

  • @ILIAL_General
    @ILIAL_General 5 місяців тому +2

    Some of the Megas for the weak Pokemon could, and maybe should, become an additional evolution.
    Legendaries don’t need Megas, or Megas should not exceed 600 BST.

  • @Lunar_Lunatic
    @Lunar_Lunatic 5 місяців тому

    1:51 mega audino doesn’t really look cool but I’m a hater of it so I’m far to bias

  • @andrewharris1344
    @andrewharris1344 5 місяців тому +1

    The problem with megas is that so many of them could’ve just been regular evolutions. You can’t tell me mega Banette couldn’t have worked better as a regular evolution.

  • @doll1457
    @doll1457 5 місяців тому +7

    I always hated megas it's my least favorite of the gimmicks. I would have preferred trash mons get a stat rework instead.

  • @deconyus3412
    @deconyus3412 5 місяців тому +1

    Honestly? The reaction to Megas competitively feels so much like how the people of Pokemon mightve reacted to Megas right after the war. Though, for them its the fear of roided up monsters in pain being used to cause more violence, for VGC its the fear of a Mother and Child attacking twice in one turn.

  • @NX_TV
    @NX_TV 5 місяців тому

    I think Gen 10 (onwards) should have all mechanics. But I'd make a few changes/rules:
    - First, you can only use 1 "special mechanic" per battle, so either a mega, or a dynamax, or a tera, or a z move, or one of anything they add in the future, but not one of each (except maybe for dumb final battle raids stuff for the sake of it)
    - Make Mega available to every pokémon. Not giving a Mega Evolution to everyone, but some similar stat boost, and make mega EVOLUTIONS a particular case, just like they did with Gigantamax/Dynamax, and Terastallize and Ogerpon/Terapagos. TyranitarTube recently uploaded a video about a great suggestion on the topic, where you could get a mega stone per stat type, and you could use a Mega Power that temporarily boosts that stat type by 50 or something, this way you could still use that instead of a megaevolution, as you may want a bosst to a particular stat or something
    - Make all these mechanics use an item. So Mega Evolution/Power, you need a Mega Stone, Z move, you need a Z crystal, then Dynamax, you need an orb of Eternatus energy or someting, and a piece of terapagos crystal for terastallizing. This way, you don't HAVE to use one of these mechanics in a battle, as they wouldn't be a free bonus to use, and sometimes a choice scarf may be better.

    • @NX_TV
      @NX_TV 5 місяців тому

      Alson I would have loved if they kept megas a thing, and added new forms in every game. In Sun/Moon, add a few Megas, in Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee, add a Mega Dragonite, in Sword and Shield, add a few more, in BDSP, give the Starters a Mega, in Legends, give Arceus a Mega, in S/V, give some more. just a few, like 4-6 each main game, and 1-3 in remakes and spinoffs. that would've been awesome.

  • @sierrablue2206
    @sierrablue2206 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel like pokemon is the only fan base where the majority of casual players are more toxic than the competitive players

  • @tenguman3560
    @tenguman3560 5 місяців тому +1

    Praying that we get Mega Flygon and it turns him into a Bug/Dragon type

  • @starlord2549
    @starlord2549 5 місяців тому +2

    Here me out we need mega zangoose

  • @petroschristou4558
    @petroschristou4558 3 місяці тому

    Ranting about terastalization being a good mechanic cause of the fun element of surprise, also rantiing about how you should know which Pokemon holds a Mega Stone cause its not fun for it to be a surprise

  • @jaernihiltheus7817
    @jaernihiltheus7817 5 місяців тому

    So two things that Moxie missed in terms of arguments:
    1. About the limited pool - If the issue is that it feels like there's not enough options for a Mega slot, then that's easily something that can be remedied by just making more Megas. Something that ORAS did and Gen 7 should have continued to do. They don't have to make a Mega for literally every evolution line, but adding a new dozen or two every main series game would solve the issue. And with the whole Dexit thing from Gen 8 onward in mind, if a Mega is too broken then they can just not bring it back in the next gen or two.
    2. About overcentralization - While it is true they were centralizing in Gen 6 (less so in Gen 7 but there was a fair bit of that there too), that was within Gen 6/7s levels of power creep. Gen 9s powercreep makes most Megas just look like normal, decent pokemon in comparison to the amount of BS Gen 9 introduced lol. The Megas that exist now fit right in with Gen 9s powercreep and most are powercrept themselves. If we need an additional handicap just in case - just make it to where you're only allowed to use 1 gimmick per round. So the second you Mega Evolve you're locked out of Terastal (or whatever Gen 10s gimmick will be) and vice versa, forcing you to choose what you want your team to be.

  • @dragaleoreforged3999
    @dragaleoreforged3999 5 місяців тому

    It’s funny how nobody brings up mega Garchomp

  • @hinton5672
    @hinton5672 5 місяців тому +1

    I think it'd be cool if mega evolution was used specifically for pokemon that cant evolve. Imagine mega pachirisu lol

  • @jerfuhrer2581
    @jerfuhrer2581 5 місяців тому

    If you Mega Evolve a Kangaslhan without a baby, a random Cubone shows up to help. Once you're past lv50, then it becomes a marowak

  • @crg1237
    @crg1237 5 місяців тому +7

    In my opinion, who cares about competitive? If the mons unbalanced ban it from comp. it’s that simple. If a game caters to the pros/competitive side everytime they balance a game then all the fan base they will be left with is the comp sweats (AKA like 1% of the player base). Megas coming back should be a thing in each game

    • @praggodey
      @praggodey 5 місяців тому +6

      vgc doesn't have a ban system. It's a rotation format. Megas also have the issue of why not just give the mon an evolution instead

  • @MagiRemmie
    @MagiRemmie 5 місяців тому +1

    I prefer Dynamax because they fixed the balance issue with Megas. Dynamaxing at the wrong time could cost you the match. There was no negatives to just using your mega turn 1.

  • @tipjrjr326
    @tipjrjr326 5 місяців тому

    This guy... is obsessed with multiple mouth... what should I imagine!? WHAT?

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite 5 місяців тому +1

    Megas always felt like a natural extension of the games, most of the others felt more and more tacky/ gimmicky

    • @alphawolf7417
      @alphawolf7417 5 місяців тому

      I both agree and disagree on both fronts.

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite 5 місяців тому

    Broyou mentioning substitute, imagine if they just made mega kangaskhan have a built in sibstitute like mimikyu instead of the double hit 💀

  • @Novadeus07
    @Novadeus07 5 місяців тому +1

    Dynamax is litteraly mega + z moves for 3 turn

    • @danielbischoff133
      @danielbischoff133 3 місяці тому +1

      No, Dynamax is the exact opposite of Mega.
      With Mega, all values are changed.
      Only HP and attacks are not changed; only a few Pokemon can change.
      The types and abilities can also change.
      Dynamax does not change all stats.
      In particular, only the HP and attacks are changed; all Pokemon can use it.
      In addition, certain Pokemon have an extreme form with additional attacks.
      (Abilities and types do not change either)
      Therefore, Dynamax is the exact opposite of Mega.
      ----------------
      And no, Dynamax does not have full Z-Movs.
      Because the normal Z-Movs are much stronger and have a lot of blatant additional effects.
      Dynamax has the much weaker Z-Movs.

  • @antoinewilliams290
    @antoinewilliams290 5 місяців тому

    Also hope some of gen 6 Pokemon could have mega forms too

  • @J.P1981
    @J.P1981 5 місяців тому

    I didn't play S & V competetive, buy any of the dlc, or Legend's Arceus because I was really starting to feel the burn out after playing every pokemon game since gen V. I feel that having that break for a year and a half, and going back to an old gimmick was what I needed to be pulled back in.

  • @Timidogbumpstudio
    @Timidogbumpstudio 5 місяців тому +1

    Gigantamax is megas if they where released in gen 6 or 7 XD yes gigantamax is megas if they where released in kalos

  • @davidharshman7645
    @davidharshman7645 5 місяців тому +1

    Gotta say...Mega Evolutions always failed the vibe check for me...

  • @kiwi40238
    @kiwi40238 5 місяців тому

    I think they should give megas another go but as Moxie mentioned they should rework the Uber tier megas to be a bit more balanced like Kang, Gengar, the weather trio etc.
    Also while on it, game freak please do mega Charizaza just for the memes.

    • @praggodey
      @praggodey 5 місяців тому +1

      gamefreak doesn't care about the uber tier as it's a fan format

  • @dismasyves
    @dismasyves 4 місяці тому

    Where's my mega vileplume game freak? I want stanky boi

  • @Sn0wmead
    @Sn0wmead 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m in a minority I guess. I don’t really like megas. I think I’d have liked them more if they had given them to weaker Pokemon (not just Pokemon like Audino and Banette) as a balancing mechanic but I realise I’m in the minority when people are fans of “Cool Pokemon made cooler” or “strong Pokemon made stronger”. And yeah, they’re far too broken in competitive.

  • @tamaozinnamikaze_3174
    @tamaozinnamikaze_3174 5 місяців тому

    Im gonna love legends ZAZA

  • @HaughtyToast
    @HaughtyToast 5 місяців тому +1

    Honestly I'd love if Megas were a staple of spin off games like the Legends, and Colosseum games. As long as Home stopped them from going to the main games.

  • @RandoSando.
    @RandoSando. 5 місяців тому +1

    Didn't like megas. It's just awful for competitive. Dynamax made unusable pokemon actually viable, and the limited turns forced a more tactical approach. Also, i didn't like the lore of megas. Just seemed like intense animal cruelty. Definitely wouldn't mind if they were casual exclusive.

  • @jonathanrolle2046
    @jonathanrolle2046 5 місяців тому +3

    I think the reason why i like mega evolution is because it's special like with the other gimmick's all pokemon can use is even if some pokemon do get different forms is still work's with all pokemon but with mega evolution only some pokemon have it and it makes that pokemon special even if it's doesn't look cool.

    • @CelVini
      @CelVini 5 місяців тому +2

      Thats just bad, they only care about popular pokemons. Imagine playing a entire game without its gimmick just because you don't want the lucky few mons who got megas.

  • @jamaldavis2480
    @jamaldavis2480 5 місяців тому

    Man, I hate this narrative that it isn't realistic for every Pokemon line to have a mega evolution.... especially with an estimate of "10 generations"... Like does he even have any idea of the amount of megas we would currently have if they keep adding them at the same rate as when ORAS came out?
    There are currently 610 fully evolved Pokemon. Had we continue to get megas at the same rate. Which was 20 a game, and taking DLC as the game replacement they are. We would currently have 206 mega evolutions assuming we didn't get another double mega and not counting one of the megas for Charizard and Mewtwo. This means 33.77% of Pokemon would have mega evolutions. It also wasn't included an extra 20 you could have added from PLA, but I figure BDSP and PLA both would give an additional 20. Compare that to the ORAS where we stopped getting megas (46) and where the total fully evolved Pokemon were 388. We would have gained a good percentage as the amount of Pokemon with a mega evolution option would be 11.85%.
    Now if you look into the future following that pattern of 20 new mega per game or DLC pack. Also assuming from now on the Gamefreak games pre generation are a pattern of New Region game, DLC, and Third game for a total of 60 new megas per generation. With an average of 55 new fully evolved Pokemon. In another 10 generation we would have around 1160 fully evolved Pokemon and 806 mega evolutions. Which would make the total percentage of fully evolved Pokemon that have a mega evolution rise to 69.42%.... So as you can see what you would be able to use just increases as time goes on. Eventually it would reach 100% and megas would just be a limit break a Pokemon has.
    No, the issue with Mega is that they were implemented wrong. Megas should have been exclusive to Pokemon that had three stages... and by three stages I'm excluding the baby stage... as Pokemon has more then hinted at evolve species line having a baby form that we just do not know... on multiple occasions. So you wouldn't want to box them in that way if they choose to fully bring that to the for front. This way Pokemon that needed to the assistance but could no longer evolve could get a Mega. Pokemon who are just popular and have reached that stage could get something new. However a Pokemon like Mawile or Absol that needed help could just be given an evolution. Hell they could be getting two evolution. Gamefreak could decide fully bring the four stage of Baby > 1 > 2 > 3 into the game and finally give us Gorochu. The issue at that point is more or less solved, as it would have more or less disqualified Legendaries and Mythicals from getting any form of Mega (except for Cosmog's family... who arguable lore wise aren't Legendaries at all). You know how many Pokemon to date fit this criteria? 121. We would have already been capped, and Potentions gotten evolutions for several other Pokemon could need it. Especially now that Megas were stripped from them.

  • @Aghul
    @Aghul 5 місяців тому +4

    I understand the issue with Megas in competitive, but also .... CONSIDER THE VIBES.
    Patterrz is right, Megas just hit different in the vibes and design department and as a very casual player, I have always wished for Mega evolution to return!

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 5 місяців тому +7

      I mean, the problem is that even in a casual setting they are still overcentralized because 9/10 times the popular ones are the ones to get Megas.

    • @Aghul
      @Aghul 5 місяців тому

      @@toumabyakuya Yeah but it doesn't really matter at all if you play just for fun or maybe even just singleplayer. At that point it's just vibes and cool designs

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Aghul This only works if your favorite Pokemon is one of the few lucky ones that got a Mega. If it was one of the most obscure ones then it will still get overshadowed.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya 5 місяців тому +2

      @windrose5988 *"Popular Pokemon get more love regardless, and popular pokemon get megas because, get this, they're Popular."*
      Hmm, it is starting to sound like your favorite Pokemon is one of the popular ones. You are sounding really biased here.
      *"Why should gamefreak spend their development type on appeasing the 3 simisear fans out there?"*
      Because, like it or not, they matter as much as you do. You aren't the most important person in the Universe.

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@windrose5988 considering the devs went and gave love to the likes of Girafarig, Garbodor, Mr Mime, Kingler, and Stantler
      I'd argue the "why spend time for the simisear fans" point is ALREADY wrong in a way

  • @Borchert97
    @Borchert97 5 місяців тому

    The main issue with Megas is giving them to Pokemon who either didn't need them or don't benefit from them, like some Pokemon are ironically better non-Mega'd than Mega'd, a good example is Blaziken whose Mega plays just like a normal Blaziken, so you're better off using a normal Blaziken with a Sash, Life Orb, or Choice Item, or hell even a fucking Expert Belt in all honesty given how good it's array of coverage moves are. Another one is Lucario who is already good without a Mega and its Mega is just way overkill, but it was for the story in XY so I'll give it a pass. Mewtwo should've never had Megas as it literally doesn't make sense in lore, Mewtwo shouldn't have even existed when Megas were discovered, it's a severe plot hole in all honesty. If more Pokemon like Manectric or Mawile got Megas, that'd be great though, but they need to actually be good, not dead content like Pidgeot or Beedrill. A better example of an irrelevant Mega is Abomasnow, sure it's nice to be able to proc Snow Warning twice, but you only get to do that once per battle and chances are Abomasnow was slower than your opponent's setter anyways, Abomasnow desperately needs a Focus Sash to function well so yeah, another trash irrelevant Mega.

  • @pyroronnie2473
    @pyroronnie2473 5 місяців тому

    Primals arent megas tho lol. Also mega rayquaza if i remember correctly was banned from competitions immediately

  • @thepersonarider0972
    @thepersonarider0972 5 місяців тому +1

    Mega dudunsparce infinite long boi

  • @jonnymiller273
    @jonnymiller273 5 місяців тому

    Wish Golem had a mega

  • @DanielPereira-ey9nt
    @DanielPereira-ey9nt 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't get why people think mega evolution is "coming back ". They are still not in a main series game and they never stopped being used in spinoffs, so realistically the status of mega evolutions is no different than it was before