Even if the scientists theory is correct then its still a miracle that Jesus made the wind come up and depleted the oxygen in the water and sufficated all those fish just at the right time.
No, but I'll do it for you. It's a legend, a tale that grew around the man after he died, and never actually happened. Sort of like how the 2020 U.S. election wasn't stolen and yet millions still believe it was. People _can_ believe an event took place that didn't, in fact, take place.
Did anyone bother to tell the "experts" that they were in the desert? The last thing I knew there's no waters to sustain the life of fish in the desert.
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them-for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:25-28 We are living in a time where Satan doesn't even hide anymore and the world still can t see him. 1 Peter 5:8 Jesus Came Up And Spoke To Them, Saying ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH Matthew 28:18
This whole God thing should have been put to rest when Galileo proved the Earth revolves around the Sun. Genesis even says the stars and the Sun were created at different times. You'd think God would at least tell us the Sun is a star. God was so out of it that apparently he doesn't even know it gets cold in some places in the world too. In exodus he bans open flames in the house on the Sabbath. Are people in Siberia just supposed to freeze to death on those days?
I was homeless,did drugs ,went into prison,where I got to know God. He changes my life. Now I have a home,a wife and a lovely year old daughter (Zoe),and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. plus a new identity -a child of God, hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❤️❤️
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So at no point did anyone in this article mention being atheist so there’s the first dishonest thing in this clip. Secondly because there’s a “study” on it doesn’t make all of science trying to disprove anything it simply shows that a group decided to look into this. That type of thinking would suggest when one leader of a church does bad things to kids that all leaders of churches do. This is just a sad attempt to straw man an argument but I would be amazed if any even know what that is.
He's drawing from generalizations. Something everyone including atheists do to make a point. Don't do mental gymnastics to try and find flaws that don't exist because the video is not to your liking.
"...because we can all trust the news..." You know the 'gospel' is supposedly the 'good news'? "...the team of experts, this is very serious..." As opposed to non-serious you poisoning the well because you have no understanding. Why do you think your ignorance is as good as their knowledge? I notice you left out _why_ they think this may be the case. We have _observed these things happening._ Heck, if you track down the paper (which the source you're using conveniently doesn't link to or tell you about so as to make that harder because they're right-wing), you find that this exact event, of fish suffocating and coming to the surface, happened in the Sea of Galilee (lake Kinaret) in 2012. If it can happen at one time purely naturally, why is it so much of a stretch for you to think it happened another time also naturally? But it gets worse. We know, as a fact, that the effects described, "fish kills", where the wind causes oxygen levels to drop and fish to die en masse is a thing that happens. The places these miracles would have happened are places such an event could occur. None of that is new. What's new is working out more of the conditions for such an event. Jesus likely did the fish things in spring (assuming the tales are true at all). Fish kills can only occur in late spring/early summer. The conditions of today that allow the fish kill to happen leave effects behind in the sediment of the lakebed. We also know about how fast the sediment accumulates on average. And so we know roughly how deep in the sediment to go for the stuff that was forming 2000 years ago. Wanna guess what the conditions were 2000 years ago? If you guessed 'just like todays when the fish kills are happening and unlike most of the intervening time', you win a cookie! (Which I will not be providing for you, sorry.) If you see a door open and there's no one there, it's simply a _fact_ that it's more likely the door moved because of wind than that Casper the Friendly Ghost moved it. _Any_ natural explanation is _always_ going to be more likely than a _supernatural_ explanation. By definition. "...it's not that they don't know what the bible says, they don't like what the bible says..." It has nothing to do with liking or not liking, it has to do with what evidence shows. This is like finding out Buddha summoned a lightning bolt in the sky and then later finding out it was raining at the time. It's simply more likely it was just totally natural lightning. And yet you'd call it a 'miracle' if we replaced Buddha with Jesus, even though it's _exactly_ the same story. "...what about the barley loaves..." If you start with five loaves and two fishes, and then they pull in lots of fish for people to eat, the fact that most of the food was fish is unlikely to be remembered. It's especially the case if the number of people (5000) is exaggerated, as such tales tend to be after 20+ years of gossip-based transmission. After all, according to the bible story, no more than 12 people distributed all this food to the 5000. It's not described as Jesus poofing them into existence and people coming up and grabbing them, but them being distributed by the disciples. Madison Square Garden holds basically 20,000 people, four times as many, and they have 18 concession stands, four entire food courts, and multiple restaurants in order to feed people, and it _still_ gets jammed up sometimes. The largest soup kitchen in the world, which is in India and is part of a Hindu temple, serves 300,000 people a day, but they have a permanent staff of over 400 and _still_ need around ten times that number in volunteers to get the job done. "...does [god] care about my food..." No. Otherwise it wouldn't, along with your water, be laced with diseases that will kill you and that have really only _stopped_ from happening in the modern age by understanding the germ theory of disease. Have a nice day!
@@whitney9844 Your great, great, great, grandchildren will not live long enough to see Jesus return. I don't call that 'soon'. Besides, Jesus already failed to return when he said he would. As for my first comment, I was pointing out that if you don't trust 'news', I'm not sure why you'd trust the bible which is no better, and, in fact, worse. At least modern news has pictures and not just words. Anyone can say any words they like, pictures are at least a _little_ harder. I hope you leave Christianity for rationality some day. Have a nice day!
@@whitney9844 My point about the 'news' was to say if you won't trust words and even _photos_ that are contained in modern news where we as a society have the ability to check to verify if it is true or not, why would you trust _just_ words and not even photos like in the bible where we _can't_ check to verify if it's true or not? Seems hypocritical. As for your other bit, it's not a helpful comment. It doesn't point to anything or explain why you think it doesn't make sense, and thus cannot possibly help anyone. It's barely an opinion. Have a nice day!
Science doesn’t need to “disprove” things that aren’t supported by evidence in the first place. If you want to believe in supernatural explanations, that’s fine, but pretending that science is somehow trying to take something away from you is just a weak defense of a fictional narrative.
Science indeed does not need to disprove claims that lack evidence, but framing this as a dismissal of supernatural beliefs misunderstands the purpose of scientific inquiry. Science seeks to understand the natural world through evidence and testable hypotheses, not to invalidate personal or spiritual beliefs. Belief in the supernatural often operates in a different epistemological domain, addressing questions of meaning or existence that science does not attempt to answer. By conflating science with an antagonistic stance toward personal beliefs, the comment itself perpetuates the conflict it criticizes, undermining the potential for a more respectful and nuanced conversation.
@@Amayi1 Science isn’t antagonistic toward personal beliefs; it just doesn’t care about claims that lack evidence. If supernatural explanations try to encroach on the natural world-claiming miracles, divine intervention, or creationism-then they’re fair game for scientific scrutiny. And when they fail to hold up under evidence-based inquiry, they get dismissed, not out of hostility, but because they don’t meet the standards of proof. Beliefs in the 'different epistemological domain' you mention might be fine for addressing personal meaning or existential musings, but they have no weight in explaining the natural world. Science doesn’t owe supernatural claims any special treatment, and if pointing that out perpetuates conflict, it’s only because believers keep insisting their unprovable assertions deserve equal standing with tested facts.
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King of kings and Lord of lords. Most importantly Jesus is God.
@@scavteamsixI hope so!!!! 🙏
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Even if the scientists theory is correct then its still a miracle that Jesus made the wind come up and depleted the oxygen in the water and sufficated all those fish just at the right time.
Trust the 'science'!
Did I miss THEM explaining the water into wine theory? 😆
No, but I'll do it for you. It's a legend, a tale that grew around the man after he died, and never actually happened. Sort of like how the 2020 U.S. election wasn't stolen and yet millions still believe it was. People _can_ believe an event took place that didn't, in fact, take place.
Did anyone bother to tell the "experts" that they were in the desert? The last thing I knew there's no waters to sustain the life of fish in the desert.
BEAUTIFUL 🤗👏🙏🙌💙✨
The FAKE "science"... o dear 🙄😉🤣
Great work as always ✨
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This was very eye-opening science. Lol
Athiests will dynie Jesus till there standing in front of him
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them-for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Luke 21:25-28
We are living in a time where
Satan doesn't even hide anymore and the world still can t see
him.
1 Peter 5:8
Jesus Came Up
And Spoke To Them, Saying ALL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH
Matthew 28:18
These people have way too much time on their hands!
Can't be disproven god only makes too much sense, when you lack sense you need god
This whole God thing should have been put to rest when Galileo proved the Earth revolves around the Sun. Genesis even says the stars and the Sun were created at different times. You'd think God would at least tell us the Sun is a star. God was so out of it that apparently he doesn't even know it gets cold in some places in the world too. In exodus he bans open flames in the house on the Sabbath. Are people in Siberia just supposed to freeze to death on those days?
A house has a builder. A painting can't paint itself, it needs a painter.
Birds, trees, humans are creations from a creator.
Think about it.
@@endtimesarehere1322 We are a series of chemical reactions not a creation
I was homeless,did drugs ,went into prison,where I got to know God. He changes my life. Now I have a home,a wife and a lovely year old daughter (Zoe),and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. plus a new identity -a child of God, hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❤️❤️
Excuse me for real?,how is that possible I have struggling financially how was that possible?
Mrs Mary Margaret schimweg is lord sent!!!
I always appreciate God for his kindness upon my life
YES!!! That's exactly her name(Mary Margaret schimweg)so many people have recommended highly about her😊 and am just starting with her Brisbane Australia 🇳🇿
Same here,with my current portfolio made from my investments with my personal financial advisor(Mary Margaret schimweg) I totally agree with you
People who demand proof of God, I submit, provide irrefutable proof He does not exist.
So at no point did anyone in this article mention being atheist so there’s the first dishonest thing in this clip. Secondly because there’s a “study” on it doesn’t make all of science trying to disprove anything it simply shows that a group decided to look into this. That type of thinking would suggest when one leader of a church does bad things to kids that all leaders of churches do. This is just a sad attempt to straw man an argument but I would be amazed if any even know what that is.
He's drawing from generalizations. Something everyone including atheists do to make a point. Don't do mental gymnastics to try and find flaws that don't exist because the video is not to your liking.
"...because we can all trust the news..."
You know the 'gospel' is supposedly the 'good news'?
"...the team of experts, this is very serious..."
As opposed to non-serious you poisoning the well because you have no understanding. Why do you think your ignorance is as good as their knowledge?
I notice you left out _why_ they think this may be the case. We have _observed these things happening._ Heck, if you track down the paper (which the source you're using conveniently doesn't link to or tell you about so as to make that harder because they're right-wing), you find that this exact event, of fish suffocating and coming to the surface, happened in the Sea of Galilee (lake Kinaret) in 2012. If it can happen at one time purely naturally, why is it so much of a stretch for you to think it happened another time also naturally?
But it gets worse. We know, as a fact, that the effects described, "fish kills", where the wind causes oxygen levels to drop and fish to die en masse is a thing that happens. The places these miracles would have happened are places such an event could occur. None of that is new. What's new is working out more of the conditions for such an event. Jesus likely did the fish things in spring (assuming the tales are true at all). Fish kills can only occur in late spring/early summer. The conditions of today that allow the fish kill to happen leave effects behind in the sediment of the lakebed. We also know about how fast the sediment accumulates on average. And so we know roughly how deep in the sediment to go for the stuff that was forming 2000 years ago. Wanna guess what the conditions were 2000 years ago? If you guessed 'just like todays when the fish kills are happening and unlike most of the intervening time', you win a cookie! (Which I will not be providing for you, sorry.)
If you see a door open and there's no one there, it's simply a _fact_ that it's more likely the door moved because of wind than that Casper the Friendly Ghost moved it. _Any_ natural explanation is _always_ going to be more likely than a _supernatural_ explanation. By definition.
"...it's not that they don't know what the bible says, they don't like what the bible says..."
It has nothing to do with liking or not liking, it has to do with what evidence shows. This is like finding out Buddha summoned a lightning bolt in the sky and then later finding out it was raining at the time. It's simply more likely it was just totally natural lightning. And yet you'd call it a 'miracle' if we replaced Buddha with Jesus, even though it's _exactly_ the same story.
"...what about the barley loaves..."
If you start with five loaves and two fishes, and then they pull in lots of fish for people to eat, the fact that most of the food was fish is unlikely to be remembered. It's especially the case if the number of people (5000) is exaggerated, as such tales tend to be after 20+ years of gossip-based transmission. After all, according to the bible story, no more than 12 people distributed all this food to the 5000. It's not described as Jesus poofing them into existence and people coming up and grabbing them, but them being distributed by the disciples. Madison Square Garden holds basically 20,000 people, four times as many, and they have 18 concession stands, four entire food courts, and multiple restaurants in order to feed people, and it _still_ gets jammed up sometimes. The largest soup kitchen in the world, which is in India and is part of a Hindu temple, serves 300,000 people a day, but they have a permanent staff of over 400 and _still_ need around ten times that number in volunteers to get the job done.
"...does [god] care about my food..."
No. Otherwise it wouldn't, along with your water, be laced with diseases that will kill you and that have really only _stopped_ from happening in the modern age by understanding the germ theory of disease.
Have a nice day!
😂 we are aware it means good news. We just know that the current news networks are activists and not actually giving us the news. Big difference.
😂 you are being obtuse on purpose with the very first part of your comment. 😅
I am happy you are listening to the Pastor. I will pray for you because Jesus is coming soon
@@whitney9844 Your great, great, great, grandchildren will not live long enough to see Jesus return. I don't call that 'soon'. Besides, Jesus already failed to return when he said he would.
As for my first comment, I was pointing out that if you don't trust 'news', I'm not sure why you'd trust the bible which is no better, and, in fact, worse. At least modern news has pictures and not just words. Anyone can say any words they like, pictures are at least a _little_ harder.
I hope you leave Christianity for rationality some day.
Have a nice day!
@@whitney9844
My point about the 'news' was to say if you won't trust words and even _photos_ that are contained in modern news where we as a society have the ability to check to verify if it is true or not, why would you trust _just_ words and not even photos like in the bible where we _can't_ check to verify if it's true or not? Seems hypocritical.
As for your other bit, it's not a helpful comment. It doesn't point to anything or explain why you think it doesn't make sense, and thus cannot possibly help anyone. It's barely an opinion.
Have a nice day!
Science doesn’t need to “disprove” things that aren’t supported by evidence in the first place. If you want to believe in supernatural explanations, that’s fine, but pretending that science is somehow trying to take something away from you is just a weak defense of a fictional narrative.
Science indeed does not need to disprove claims that lack evidence, but framing this as a dismissal of supernatural beliefs misunderstands the purpose of scientific inquiry. Science seeks to understand the natural world through evidence and testable hypotheses, not to invalidate personal or spiritual beliefs. Belief in the supernatural often operates in a different epistemological domain, addressing questions of meaning or existence that science does not attempt to answer. By conflating science with an antagonistic stance toward personal beliefs, the comment itself perpetuates the conflict it criticizes, undermining the potential for a more respectful and nuanced conversation.
@@Amayi1 Science isn’t antagonistic toward personal beliefs; it just doesn’t care about claims that lack evidence. If supernatural explanations try to encroach on the natural world-claiming miracles, divine intervention, or creationism-then they’re fair game for scientific scrutiny. And when they fail to hold up under evidence-based inquiry, they get dismissed, not out of hostility, but because they don’t meet the standards of proof.
Beliefs in the 'different epistemological domain' you mention might be fine for addressing personal meaning or existential musings, but they have no weight in explaining the natural world. Science doesn’t owe supernatural claims any special treatment, and if pointing that out perpetuates conflict, it’s only because believers keep insisting their unprovable assertions deserve equal standing with tested facts.