Why Hungary Joined the Axis: ua-cam.com/video/zkj_wq4qZME/v-deo.html Why Hungary Joined Operation Barbarossa: ua-cam.com/video/tvuMQ6OV4BA/v-deo.html The Royal Hungarian Army in WW2: ua-cam.com/video/6OlyxHpzsx4/v-deo.html
And so Hungary became a battlefield for more than half a year (September 1944 - April 1945). The tank battle of the Hortobágy/Debrecen and the siege of Budapest were one of the biggest (in case of tank and manpower numbers) and longest (1,5 month) battles of WW2. Even in March 1945 the Germans launched their last offensive in Hungary to protect the last oil fields in Zala county, when the Soviets were already at the gates of Berlin...
i know i know joachim peiper is cool and shit but real power and efficiany is found in heavy infantry not tank units, no need for fuel, reparations, heavy ammounition supply but still a highly mobile and deadly force, its simplicity in relation to firepower beats all other branches
Visited Budapest 3 yrs ago. I loved the vibes and appearance of the city. I remember standing at one of the bridges, by the Danube, and trying to imagine the carnage during the siege.
@@donna25871 one of the bridges...can't recall...but I would love to go back. Something about Hungary fascinates me. Wish I had taken the offer to visit Lake Balaton
A sincere thanks for the Hungary WW2 playlist! It is very personal to me, as your videos touch on my family's experiences (on my father's side) during the war. My grandfather was an Army officer serving on the Eastern Front for 16 months during '42 - '43. He received the Signum Laudis medal for bravery during the Russian winter offensive in early '43 (the Germans also offered him an Iron Cross which he turned down). After returning home to civilian life for a period of time, his unit was mobilized again later in '44. During the call-ups the men were required to swear allegience to Hitler which my grandfather refused to do. He was promptly arrested, but then rescued by some of his army comrades who forced his release at gunpoint. My grandfather gathered up the family and they fled to Croatia for the remainder of the war, where some friends took them in. My grandfather was a patriot but no fan of the Nazis...especially due to the fact that my grandmother was Jewish!
I have only ever found one source of information from the color time life documentary that mentioned there time. Otherwise there is no other documentary about them We're these guys staunchly Catholic and had slight different real extreme ideology, that was the most I ever could find
From my grandfather's memories and encounters with the Arrow Cross, they were strange and odd. For example, the arrow cross came to the village of Banhida looking for anyone that was jewish in 1944. My great grandfather allowed a Jewish couple to live in the second cottage on the family property. Here is the kicker that was strange. The couple within the old racial laws weren't even Jewish, they were not even practicing jews, as they converted to Catholicism many years before in the 30's and were as jewish as anyone's left pinky toe. According to my grandfather, the father was an army friend from WWI and was a highly decorated military war hero with various medals for his valor in the eastern front. He came back from the POW camps along with my great grandfather. He was exempt from any of the racial laws in place. And he had the papers to prove it. According to my great grandfather and grandfather, this was a perplexing case for the Arrow Cross and they had help with the SS that was with them. The SS men saluted the father and stated he isn't jewish and left them alone. Then in early 1945, they came again with a different group and they again stated that the racial laws have changed and anyone that has any jewish blood is also a jew. By that time in 1945, the man was in a local Hungarian national guard unit and they had to find him and his unit. Soon after they found him, they then dragged the couple with their son and a baby and they executed them. Everyone in the village was forced to watch including a Wehrmacht unit that was in the village along with whatever Hungarian soldiers. They spent more time...more energy....and more resources looking for people who weren't even Jews than actually fighting the Russians. That is what is odd and strange for me. What was this obsession? I've asked many people and historians in Hungary and the US and the only one that made any kind of sense was Christopher R Brownings book www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution/dp/0060995068 . The thesis of this book is that ordinary men can be turned into mass-murderers given the right circumstances. Only then did it hit me and finally made any kind of sense. One need not be born a monster to become one, and if we arrogantly ignore that fact we risk repeating these same mistakes time and time again.
This is the case with the germans as well. Ok, you have to remove them because your ideology says so. But you are also fighting a war where you need everything you have to win it, or else you'll be destroyed. Realistically, its a simple choice, but they instead opted to kill random peasants behind the lines and waste resources that could've been used for a war. Its ideology being no. 1 and reality no. 2.
yeah it’s truly puzzling that as the germans began to lose the war they didn’t slow down their mass murder, they actually sped it up and poured more desperately-needed resources into it
@@HistoryHustle Not really, since History Hustle made a great mistake, even between 1944-45 Hungary was not a "Fascist country", however as it is also mentioned in the video, a Hungarist State ("Hungarista Állam" is the Hungarian term). The ideology of the Arrow Cross party was Hungarism, and in fact types of Fascism was shared by their ideology, it was more akin with Nazism, however still different. Connationalism and A-Semitism were their core genuine ideas which differed from the earlier mentioned, so calling either Fascist or Nazi would be wrong. In fact it's a general mistake to call outside Fascist italy and some really exeptional case a Fascist state other countries, which had right-wing leaders or ideologies at the time, after 1945, the Communists invented this term since they were disturbed by the "Socialism" part in the Nazi-terminology - as well the red color and calling for the workers - , so they labelled systematically "Fascist" all right-wing countries siding with Germany, so they could easier distinguish themselves but at the same time to be label others negatively.
Rodion Malinovsky was the Soviet General who led the Russians in defeating the Nazis and their Hungarians allies by capturing Hungary in 1945. Ferenc Szálasi ironically was captured by American troops and returned to Hungary. He was tried by the Soviets and executed for war crimes against humanity. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodion_Malinovsky
Not by the Soviets but by Peoples Tribunal(Temporary Judical system after the war for some years.Most of the prosecutor were same like before 1945 e g. Ákos Major). Of course they were conceptional trials but had to make sentences for that people who were responsible of taken the part of WW2. Szalasi left Budapest on end of November 1944 and moved his headquarters to West-Hungarian border.
This is the Carpathian Basin in the Center of Europe. The Carpathian Mountains protected Hungary inside the Carpathian Basin during 1000 years as natural border. We can see the shape of the Kingdom of Hungary follows the Carpathian Mountains. Hungary had more or less the same border following the shape of the Carpathian Mountains between 900-1920. After World War I in 1920, 2/3 of its historical territory and 1/3 of its ethnic Hungarians were unjustly detached to newly created hostile states. In 1940, Northern Transylvania with Hungarian majority population was reverted to Hungary, in this case the southern borders of Northern Transylvania became very unfavorable by defending aspect. The Árpád Line was a line of fortifications built in 1941-44 in the north-eastern and eastern Carpathian Mountains, along the border of Kingdom of Hungary. The main function of the Line was to protect Hungary from the east. After the Battle of Kursk in 1943, only the Árpád Line was able to detain the Soviet army for a long time. With regard to effectiveness per cost rate, it was the most potent fortification system during World War II. The construction of the Árpád Line was 5-10 times cheaper per kilometer than its German and French counterparts, and it was able to hold off the enemy for an incomparably longer period. The losses were extremely low, despite the enemy's numerical superiority and the poor equipment of Hungarian Armed Forces. Since 1944, UK and USA also bombed very heavly Hungary. B-24 Liberator above Hungary On August 23 1944, Marshal Ion Antonescu was overthrown in Romania, and Romania switched on the side of the Allies (as in every war Romania is switching side). Two days later, the Soviet troops reached the Hungarian border at Transylvania without resistance from South Transylvania which was part of Romania at that time. The Hungarian 3rd Army pushed the Romanian forces back to the Maros line, but the territory of the country soon became a battlefield when the Soviet forces approaching the Hungarian border launched a general attack on October 6. It took 20 days for the Soviet army to break through the defensive line at the Maros and capture Northern Transylvania. During the autumn of 1944, the Southern Soviet Army and the whole Romanian combined forces commenced a multi-stage, full-sized attack, which immediately stalled. Despite their more than tenfold numerical superiority, Soviet and Romanian forces were completely unable to occupy a single fort, and serious damage occurred in only a few fortresses. In several cases, the company-scaled defensive groups (comprising 250 border guards) successfully faced greater-than-division-sized Soviet forces (comprising 10000-15000 soldiers). For every fallen Hungarian border guard on the Arpad Line, 483 Soviet soldiers were killed, despite the severe lack of equipment by the defenders in the fortresses. At the end of October, the Hungarian forces retreated in orderly fashion from the Line, because Northern Transylvania fell from the previously protected southern border after Romania had joined the Allies and the subsequent Soviet occupation of Romania. Soviet troops advancing along the Danube had left the Line outflanked. Due to the Romanian betrayal the Soviets were able to bypass the Árpád Line. At the Battle of Debrecen the Soviets were stopped for a while, the encirclement of the German-Hungarian troops in the Carpathians it was prevented. The Soviets did not respect the Romanian soldiers who fought against them who just recently switched side, the Soviets used the Romanian troops as bullet shield. There are several Soviet reports about the bad performance of Romanian soldiers at the beginning of the Siege of Budapest. The Soviets wanted continuous progress from Romanian soldiers, but they were lagging behind. The Romanian troops had own front line, but the Soviet troops were in the right and left flank and they moved much faster than the Romanians which caused a gap. And if the Germans would have been used this gap, then they could have attacked the side the Soviets. The Soviets did not want this. When the bridgehead of Pest narrowed, the front line gradually shortened. At a point, the participation of Romanians became unnecessary, because the Soviets were able to do it. So Soviet General Rodion Malinovsky said, we can do it without the Romanians, not need to lagging 200-300 meter behind the front line of the Soviets. Malinovsky withdrew the Romanian forces from Budapest and regrouped them on the North Hungarian front.
Вопрос зачем Венгрия вообще участвовала в операции Барбаросса? Вы тут описали о вашей героической обороне и прочие, но скажу как русский, о вас в России плохая память и сотвественно отношение к вам. Венгры оставили о себе очень плохую память под Воронежем и на Донбассе из за уничтожения местного населения и участия в антипартизанских акциях, а фактически осуществления планов геноцида по отношению к русскому населению. По этому с вами не особе церемонились в 1956 году. Вообще не понятны устремления тогдашних народов европы против СССР в 1941 году, войны велись и до этого , в первую мировую мой прадед воевал против немцев и не помнил такого ожесточения и жестокого обращения с мирным населением, но зачем нужно было вам Венграм расстреливать десятки тысяч человек на юге России? С уважением.
The facts of True History are bewildering and make the pieces of the Historical Puzzle fit together - thank you for another fact-filled lecture on History that makes sense of WWII Events!
One of the most interesting things I know about Szálasi is that he insisted he wasn't "Anti-Semetic", and he was instead "Asemetic". He claimed he didn't want to eradicate Judaism, but it just had no place in Hungary. Of course, he also did nothing to stop the genocide, so I really don't know what he was trying to say.
I read something like that as well. There is a difference between what Szálasi said and what Szálasi did. His Arrow Cross henchmen performed executions near the Danube. That says enough I think. Beside: you can be an antisemite without wanting Jewish people eradicated.
If one read Szalasi's books and published articles, he only asked the simple question for anyone of Jewish origin. He wanted them to be asked " are you a Jew who happens to live in Hungary or are you a Hungarian who happens to come from Jewish origin?" He only wanted Hungary for Hungarians. If one reads accounts from the 1930s, he didn't even like the German Nazis and if one researches further, the Nazi's tried several times to assassinate him in the late 30s due to his hostility to anything German or non Hungarian. Szalasi's and the founders of the Arrowcross wanted the Volksdeutsch to leave Hungary and be among their own people. This doesn't make up nor am I condoning what happened in 1944 and what happened to the Jews ultimately in Hungary. I'm just saying what he wrote and advocated for and what happened are two entirely different things.
Great video! I have been subscribed for over a year now and i have the bell notifications on but for the past couple of months I'm not getting any notification i really thought videos weren't updated regularly. Anyone else having the same issue?
@@HistoryHustle Well, it was very cold and the roads, sidewalks were really slippery as I found out the hard way with serious grip issues with my shoes...old ladies walking around me, lol. Anyhow, they loved Americans since we were fairly new to them...everything was cheap, a beer (.5liter) was a dollar. Two years removed from Soviet rule and it seemed compared to the Czech Republic, for example, a bit behind transitioning to capitalism even though George Soros was the main man in Hungry... but he wasn't too popular, don't know if it's because he was Jewish or due to his immense wealth, probably both. I can go on but I'll stop here, lmk if you have any other questions. Egészségedre (cheers in Magyar)
You should do a more in depth one about Bulgaria and it’s different states from the interwar to 1944-45. Maybe Romania and Slovakia too. Would be cool.
I lived in Kecskemet for a year and always enjoyed taking the train into Budapest. The Jewish quarter is such a beautiful part of the city - devastating that the entire Jewish population was deported to the death camps in those six months.
most jews in the capital survived the war (appr. 60-70thousand) and were deliberated by the Russian front in January '45, the jews from the countryside and rural areas were though methodically gathered and ransported to extermination camps from the spring of 1944. Appr. 400-500thousand of them.
All those Jews housed, rescued from the gas chambers. And then to be arrested by Russian 'liberators' to disappear in Moscow.. 'no good deed goes unpunished' so they say.. Dramatic to say the least! Thanks for sharing the story, appreciate it a lot! Greets, T.
Excellent presentation professor! I come from Hungary and there would be some more interesting things. Horthy only accepted Szálsi because his younger son was abducted by the Germans. Szálasi was, in short, a traitor to the Hungarian people. While the siege of Budapest, Szálasi gave a lecture on the Hungarian state in Kőszeg. Szálasi was just a german puppet. After the war, Szálsi was hanged in Hungary. The provisional government in Debrecen was appointed bi the Sovietunion.
He also said after the war something to the affect of "A signature signed with a machine in to your back is not a signature", so he never really considered the Szálasi government legitimate
Interesting that Stalin let Horthy escape to Portugal after the war because of this, he did try to prevent unnecessary death and destruction, even thuogh he was also right-wing reactionary
Interesting topic the video was really nice as well I like it when you travel! coukd you do a video about the Hellenic state? its an interesting topic not discussed at all here in YT.
Interesting video. (There are huge parts of European history that are almost entirely unknown in Britain. Its part of the reason we've ended up with the Brexit shambles. We were taught to feel separate to Europe.) Anyway, keep up the good work! :-)
Let me guess, Battle of Budapest is coming up! But to this video: Szálasi and the Nyilas Party and its followers did almost as much damage to Hungary as the Red Army. It was truly an era of madness, the darkest and most tragic part of our history...
Excellent Stefan, plenty of interesting history to be found in Hungary🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟. I read an excellent book on Raoul Wallenberg named “The Envoy” by Alex Kershaw, highly recommended.
When I visited Sweden in the 70s, every other factory etc. belonged to the Wallenberg family. He was a hero. Except for the vignette in Soljenytsyn, we don't know what happened to him.
@@HistoryHustle good, we have suffered so much (so many years ) under Moscow Barbaric occupation, It´ll be great if western , lucky part of Europe show some solidarity ...
@@knowledgeseekerfacts3472 Since you nominally seek knowledge and facts, here is the definition of interesting: attracting your attention and making you want to learn more about something: not dull or boring That was an interesting video. But you knew that when typing your virtue-signaling invective. You can troll elsewhere now, your work here is done.
Great video as always. BZ. If Horthy could stop the transports in July, he could have ordered the ministry of interior to refuse to cooperate with the Germans earlier on.. It was only when Horthy received threatening calls from all over the world in July 1944, including Great Britain and the United States, that he decided to act .
Wow you here in Hungary? Thanks for making this video, even if just breifley it describes and explains some things about the fascist state established in Hungary at that the time and the stories of thoes who opposed and supported it. Because i live here i have researched this interesting topic a lot. After all, all of us conscious historians and amature historians can agree on that this short period was probably the darkest and most painful part of Hungarian history. This is just one example of fascism and how much suffering it caused everywhere where it occured, we should all remember that we should never let such a horde of bandits and criminals govern any country across the globe.
Good video, but actually, the Arrow-crossed party have made a lot of passports to Sweden, Szálasi never wanted to kill the jews, as he said "it's waste of manpower" The most of the killers were only peoples who "wanted to help" the Hungarism, not actual Arrowed soldiers
Doubt if this is the case. The only reports of AC members helping Jews were at the end when defeat was imminent and the wanted to look good for the incoming Soviets.
@@HistoryHustle László Karsai, Hungarian jewsih historian said this. Also, one of his interwiew he said that " unfortunetly, I have to agree with the fascist historians about the Arrowed cross terror" No one knows more about Szálasi and the Arrowed cross party than he does
I like this channel but it so annoyingly to hear [Ferenk Zalasi]. More correct is [Férents Sálashi], letter S gives sound sh as well as Z gives zh, for it's neutralization they add letter c after s/z to make sounds s or z
From 1920 to 1944 Hungary was a monarchy without a king. Adm. Miklos Horthy ruled as regent of that country. There was talk of restoring the Habsburg monarchy in Hungary after World War I with former Austro-Hungarian emperor Karl I and wife Zita as king and queen, but Horthy wouldn't hear of it.
4:13 - A Soviet photographer snapped this picture in Budapest. The Germans and Arrow Cross had been driven off, at least in that area. Shortly after their Star of David badges were removed.
The Budapest-ghetto was protected and fed by Hungarian Arrow Cross. There is a saying, if you cannot speak freely about it, keep quiet. (But I must admit, this seems a decent summary.)
You can speak freely but I can go into discussion with you about this. I believe this is revisionism. Two things I've read in the book I used as a source for this video: - the SS protected the ghetto so the Jews could be deported in an ordily way. - some Arrow Cross did protect Jews on their own initiative so they wouldn't be prosecuted by the Soviets.
@@HistoryHustle The book you used for the video is obviously not an original source. It may still be true, but my ( non-expert ) opinion is that books on this subject lie a lot. (By the way, I am honoured by your reply.)
Reclaiming the lost borders and expanding in 4 directions, as an ancient meaning of "ward off the evil eye" in Nomadic-Turanic symbolism. It also probably quotes Æd0lf H!tler in his words "Our movement is Christian".
That's the point of Fascist symbolism. It's meant to give you a sense of power, and pride. There's a reason so many people went along with it back then.
The Hungarist Movement was not a "fascist" movement, it was closer to the German National Socialism than the Italian Fascism. The title is wrong. Today the Hungarian academic historiography not used the world "fascist" for Szálasi and his ideology and movement. (Of course Szálasi explained that the Hitlerism, the Fascism and Hungarism is different in many thing. E.g. he wrote that the goal of fascism is the totality of the state, the goal of Hitlerism is the totality of race, and the goal of Hungarism is the totality of the nation.)
If it looks like a fascist, swims like a fascist, and quacks like a fascist, then it probably is a fascist. I consider nazism as a form of fascism. There is a recent trent to view fascism and nazism as worlds apart. This isn't the case.
Please don't forget Spanish diplomat Angel Sanz Briz.. who extended countlees of Spanish pasaports to Sefardi Judewish and some others saving hundreds of people in BUDAPEST
It really shows how much the west accepted nazis after the war. As patton one said, “we defeated the wrong enemy” honestly it’s not surprising considering how much the nazis were inspired by America and manifest destiny.
@@cameraman1234567890a Okay, naziboy. No one disputes that Stalin was a monster...but that makes the Nazis what, our friends?! No, no, and no. Skorzeny was a lifelong, unrepentant, fanatical Nazi war criminal hiding out in fascist Spain for decades after the war. We did not fight the wrong enemy. And let's not forget that it was the Red Army that crushed your mass-murdering, cowardly heroes, not the Western Allies.
@@cameraman1234567890a Nazbol argument against fascist critics: STALIN BAD We know that, now anything rational in defence of fascism. Nazbol:STALIN BAD bro Stalin died long time ago what argument do you have now. Nazbol;STALIN BAD 😐
@@haeuptlingaberja4927 bro I agree! I hate skorzenys legacy and am disgusted with how we accepted him as a “respectable” soldier. I think Patton was insane for saying that too. It just shows imo the fascist tendencies of many countries in the west.
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose I’m a not a nazi bro just making the point that the western powers had and still have fascist tendencies. Do you see my last name? The nazis wouldn’t have liked me very much lol
Also, Technically and I haven't read all of it Hungary was in direct violation of the Munich Agreement of 1940 a signed agreement which gave Germany diplomatic rights over sovereign Hungary.
There’s a couple of movies about Wallenberg. Goodnight mr. Wallenberg and Wallenberg. It’s believed he died in a soviet prison. The truth has never been revealed.
I visited Central Europe once, cathedrals and all, but the most memorable was the brass shoes by the Danube River and the marker around Budapest where people of Jewish background were either snatched up or out right killed.
@@HistoryHustle What really riles me is that now in the whole of Europe they try to attract Jewish tourists with these monuments. In Buda they are restoring an old synagogue. In Barcelona they have a Jewish tour... Too little too late.
@@patriciabrenner9216 That synagogue is only one of many ongoing restorations, and it's a universal architectural value, I don't think they do it only for jewish tourists. Primarily these monuments are serving as a remembrance to these people and also shows what not to do again. It's more of a side effect that these attract tourism. If someone is visiting a foreign Central European country, I don't think they do it for the holocaust memorials in the first place. Poland is an exception, but they have the camps. And what did the Spanish do to Jews that now it's a shame they have a Jewish tour? Can you explain more what you think?
@@p.b.5107 1492 for the Spain. First they expellthe Jews, put the Inquisition on them and now they want to profit from the Jewish past. As to Budapest, look at the Danube.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Okay, thanks for explaining. By the way, the old synagogue there has a Hebrew owner, so if he takes money, than he is also gaining from this, which would be quite ironic. I know what happened in Budapest.
"they wasn't true fascist state until 1944..." Yeah, but that didnt prevent to commit genocide tendencies againsr Serb and Jews in occupied Yugoslav territoriest. Stephan, check out event occured in Backa, Novi Sad in early 1942.
I have and mention it in another video. Not all countries that carry out a massacre are fascist. My country the Netherlands did such things in Indonesia, but was not fascist.
@@HistoryHustle It is possible for democracies to operate fascistic regimes in their colonies. I'm no expert on Dutch colonial history, but that was certainly the case with the British Empire in India & Africa.
There are plenty of Hungarians today who would act as the Arrocross member have,given the opportunity.Just read some comments on UA-cam channels concerning Israel or Jews.
A: German-sided politics and also everyone believed the Soviet Union will crumble in weeks, even the Western powers thought so. B: the USSR was a blunt, infamous great power right behind our back plus they had a notable Hungarian population. C: after the communist terror of 1919 in our country there was a great fear of communism in basically everyone in Hungary. (Well in the political class in the whole Europe)
@funeralfriendship right, except ruling a democracy, having elections, having opposition parties, having opposition press, allowing people to leave the country if they wish, etc They are fascist if your definition of fascist is "anyone that disagrees with me", which it appears to be
One result of the communist takeover of Eastern Europe has been that the hatred and problems that existed before were as if frozen during the communist era. With the fall of communism, the ice melted and they came back to the surface and these countries didn't have the 50 years that Western Europe had to deal with them.
I agree with Hustle, he was a conservative authoritarian, not a fascist. I don't like him anyway, the only positive legacy he left was the violin part of his theme song 🎻
@@andrasbeke3012 He really outlawed fascist party ??! So why he became Hitlers bitch, I can understand why he cooperated with Germany against Romania, czech,Yugoslavia but why soviet union if he was not fascist what kind of problem did he have?
Good work Stefan , but don't whitewash the Hungarian involvement with troops on the Nazi Eastern front and the deportation of much of the Jewish population . Horti was only in contact with the Allies because he knew that the war was lost .
Hungary benefited territorially from its relationship with the Axis. Settlements were negotiated regarding territorial disputes with the Czechoslovak Republic, the Slovak Republic, and the Kingdom of Romania. On November 20, 1940, Hungary became the fourth member to join the Axis powers when it signed the Tripartite Pact.[2] The following year, Hungarian forces participated in the invasion of Yugoslavia and the invasion of the Soviet Union. Their participation was noted by German observers for its particular cruelty, with occupied peoples subjected to arbitrary violence. Hungarian volunteers were sometimes referred to as engaging in "murder tourism."
I suggested to someone (maybe this fellow), to do the Arrow-Cross. I'd never heard of them until we went on a river cruise, which included Budapest. We were told that, to save ammunition, Jewish kids had their shoes tied together. The first Jew was shot by the river, which dragged the others to their deaths!
@Bázisolt. Külön oda irtam hogy ki volt ,vannak sokan akik nem is ismertèk ,,amugy az Iskolàban is hibàssan mondtàk nekünk ,,,valamikor 50 ève . !! Ismertem is Embereket akik Nyilasok voltak !! abban az idöben !!
@@HistoryHustle that's only hungarians know what does that mean. This is impossible to translate to other languages. Thanks a videóért mégegyszer te sutyerák!
Why Hungary Joined the Axis:
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Why Hungary Joined Operation Barbarossa:
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The Royal Hungarian Army in WW2:
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And so Hungary became a battlefield for more than half a year (September 1944 - April 1945). The tank battle of the Hortobágy/Debrecen and the siege of Budapest were one of the biggest (in case of tank and manpower numbers) and longest (1,5 month) battles of WW2. Even in March 1945 the Germans launched their last offensive in Hungary to protect the last oil fields in Zala county, when the Soviets were already at the gates of Berlin...
Indeed, thanks for sharing.
sicambria did you know wich age slovaks steal kasa city from hungarians and renamed kositse i thing it was near at great war
Very well done video Stefan! Not a lot of content on the history of Hungarian history during the war. Thank you for your dedication.
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i know i know joachim peiper is cool and shit but real power and efficiany is found in heavy infantry not tank units, no need for fuel, reparations, heavy ammounition supply but still a highly mobile and deadly force, its simplicity in relation to firepower beats all other branches
Seek out "death on the Don" by Jonathan Trigg. He details the sorry fates of all the Wehrmacht allies in Russia...except the Blue division.
@@daviddoran3673 it didnt end on the don for the hungarians, they fought in the subsequent offensives and retreats on the eastern front as well
Visited Budapest 3 yrs ago. I loved the vibes and appearance of the city. I remember standing at one of the bridges, by the Danube, and trying to imagine the carnage during the siege.
Beautiful city.
The Chain Bridge.
@@donna25871 one of the bridges...can't recall...but I would love to go back. Something about Hungary fascinates me. Wish I had taken the offer to visit Lake Balaton
@@donna25871 the bridge close to the 4 Seasons hotel
B@@donna25871Lànchíd, probably!
A sincere thanks for the Hungary WW2 playlist! It is very personal to me, as your videos touch on my family's experiences (on my father's side) during the war. My grandfather was an Army officer serving on the Eastern Front for 16 months during '42 - '43. He received the Signum Laudis medal for bravery during the Russian winter offensive in early '43 (the Germans also offered him an Iron Cross which he turned down). After returning home to civilian life for a period of time, his unit was mobilized again later in '44. During the call-ups the men were required to swear allegience to Hitler which my grandfather refused to do. He was promptly arrested, but then rescued by some of his army comrades who forced his release at gunpoint. My grandfather gathered up the family and they fled to Croatia for the remainder of the war, where some friends took them in. My grandfather was a patriot but no fan of the Nazis...especially due to the fact that my grandmother was Jewish!
Very interesting to read. Many thanks for sharing this.
Great Content Stephon, fascinating parts of history i would have never heard about, if it hadn’t been for you 👍✌️
Many thanks, Jesse!
I have waited soo long for this!!! Thank you!!
Here it is Kyle, enjoy 👍
I have only ever found one source of information from the color time life documentary that mentioned there time. Otherwise there is no other documentary about them
We're these guys staunchly Catholic and had slight different real extreme ideology, that was the most I ever could find
Excellent presentation! Important history!
Thanks Todd!
You're the few youtuber talking qbout Hungary in ww2! Thanks
You're welcome 👍
From my grandfather's memories and encounters with the Arrow Cross, they were strange and odd. For example, the arrow cross came to the village of Banhida looking for anyone that was jewish in 1944. My great grandfather allowed a Jewish couple to live in the second cottage on the family property. Here is the kicker that was strange. The couple within the old racial laws weren't even Jewish, they were not even practicing jews, as they converted to Catholicism many years before in the 30's and were as jewish as anyone's left pinky toe. According to my grandfather, the father was an army friend from WWI and was a highly decorated military war hero with various medals for his valor in the eastern front. He came back from the POW camps along with my great grandfather. He was exempt from any of the racial laws in place. And he had the papers to prove it. According to my great grandfather and grandfather, this was a perplexing case for the Arrow Cross and they had help with the SS that was with them. The SS men saluted the father and stated he isn't jewish and left them alone. Then in early 1945, they came again with a different group and they again stated that the racial laws have changed and anyone that has any jewish blood is also a jew. By that time in 1945, the man was in a local Hungarian national guard unit and they had to find him and his unit. Soon after they found him, they then dragged the couple with their son and a baby and they executed them. Everyone in the village was forced to watch including a Wehrmacht unit that was in the village along with whatever Hungarian soldiers. They spent more time...more energy....and more resources looking for people who weren't even Jews than actually fighting the Russians. That is what is odd and strange for me. What was this obsession? I've asked many people and historians in Hungary and the US and the only one that made any kind of sense was Christopher R Brownings book www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution/dp/0060995068 . The thesis of this book is that ordinary men can be turned into mass-murderers given the right circumstances. Only then did it hit me and finally made any kind of sense. One need not be born a monster to become one, and if we arrogantly ignore that fact we risk repeating these same mistakes time and time again.
Hi Rudolf, a sad story. I found it very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing this.
This story reminds me of that Movie with Anthony Quinn: The 25th Hour
I can recommend it !
This is the case with the germans as well. Ok, you have to remove them because your ideology says so. But you are also fighting a war where you need everything you have to win it, or else you'll be destroyed. Realistically, its a simple choice, but they instead opted to kill random peasants behind the lines and waste resources that could've been used for a war. Its ideology being no. 1 and reality no. 2.
yeah it’s truly puzzling that as the germans began to lose the war they didn’t slow down their mass murder, they actually sped it up and poured more desperately-needed resources into it
An interesting subject, often overlooked in the West. Well presented as ever.
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@@HistoryHustle Not really, since History Hustle made a great mistake, even between 1944-45 Hungary was not a "Fascist country", however as it is also mentioned in the video, a Hungarist State ("Hungarista Állam" is the Hungarian term). The ideology of the Arrow Cross party was Hungarism, and in fact types of Fascism was shared by their ideology, it was more akin with Nazism, however still different. Connationalism and A-Semitism were their core genuine ideas which differed from the earlier mentioned, so calling either Fascist or Nazi would be wrong. In fact it's a general mistake to call outside Fascist italy and some really exeptional case a Fascist state other countries, which had right-wing leaders or ideologies at the time, after 1945, the Communists invented this term since they were disturbed by the "Socialism" part in the Nazi-terminology - as well the red color and calling for the workers - , so they labelled systematically "Fascist" all right-wing countries siding with Germany, so they could easier distinguish themselves but at the same time to be label others negatively.
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for history fun and interesting at same time
Many thanks George!👍
Rodion Malinovsky was the Soviet General who led the Russians in defeating the Nazis and their Hungarians allies by capturing Hungary in 1945. Ferenc Szálasi ironically was captured by American troops and returned to Hungary. He was tried by the Soviets and executed for war crimes against humanity. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodion_Malinovsky
Soon more on Malinovsky.
Not by the Soviets but by Peoples Tribunal(Temporary Judical system after the war for some years.Most of the prosecutor were same like before 1945 e g. Ákos Major). Of course they were conceptional trials but had to make sentences for that people who were responsible of taken the part of WW2. Szalasi left Budapest on end of November 1944 and moved his headquarters to West-Hungarian border.
Even the Western Allies, who gave safe haven to many fascists and collaborators, were disgusted by them.
This is the Carpathian Basin in the Center of Europe. The Carpathian Mountains protected Hungary inside the Carpathian Basin during 1000 years as natural border. We can see the shape of the Kingdom of Hungary follows the Carpathian Mountains. Hungary had more or less the same border following the shape of the Carpathian Mountains between 900-1920.
After World War I in 1920, 2/3 of its historical territory and 1/3 of its ethnic Hungarians were unjustly detached to newly created hostile states. In 1940, Northern Transylvania with Hungarian majority population was reverted to Hungary, in this case the southern borders of Northern Transylvania became very unfavorable by defending aspect.
The Árpád Line was a line of fortifications built in 1941-44 in the north-eastern and eastern Carpathian Mountains, along the border of Kingdom of Hungary. The main function of the Line was to protect Hungary from the east. After the Battle of Kursk in 1943, only the Árpád Line was able to detain the Soviet army for a long time. With regard to effectiveness per cost rate, it was the most potent fortification system during World War II. The construction of the Árpád Line was 5-10 times cheaper per kilometer than its German and French counterparts, and it was able to hold off the enemy for an incomparably longer period. The losses were extremely low, despite the enemy's numerical superiority and the poor equipment of Hungarian Armed Forces.
Since 1944, UK and USA also bombed very heavly Hungary. B-24 Liberator above Hungary
On August 23 1944, Marshal Ion Antonescu was overthrown in Romania, and Romania switched on the side of the Allies (as in every war Romania is switching side). Two days later, the Soviet troops reached the Hungarian border at Transylvania without resistance from South Transylvania which was part of Romania at that time. The Hungarian 3rd Army pushed the Romanian forces back to the Maros line, but the territory of the country soon became a battlefield when the Soviet forces approaching the Hungarian border launched a general attack on October 6. It took 20 days for the Soviet army to break through the defensive line at the Maros and capture Northern Transylvania.
During the autumn of 1944, the Southern Soviet Army and the whole Romanian combined forces commenced a multi-stage, full-sized attack, which immediately stalled. Despite their more than tenfold numerical superiority, Soviet and Romanian forces were completely unable to occupy a single fort, and serious damage occurred in only a few fortresses. In several cases, the company-scaled defensive groups (comprising 250 border guards) successfully faced greater-than-division-sized Soviet forces (comprising 10000-15000 soldiers). For every fallen Hungarian border guard on the Arpad Line, 483 Soviet soldiers were killed, despite the severe lack of equipment by the defenders in the fortresses. At the end of October, the Hungarian forces retreated in orderly fashion from the Line, because Northern Transylvania fell from the previously protected southern border after Romania had joined the Allies and the subsequent Soviet occupation of Romania. Soviet troops advancing along the Danube had left the Line outflanked.
Due to the Romanian betrayal the Soviets were able to bypass the Árpád Line. At the Battle of Debrecen the Soviets were stopped for a while, the encirclement of the German-Hungarian troops in the Carpathians it was prevented.
The Soviets did not respect the Romanian soldiers who fought against them who just recently switched side, the Soviets used the Romanian troops as bullet shield.
There are several Soviet reports about the bad performance of Romanian soldiers at the beginning of the Siege of Budapest. The Soviets wanted continuous progress from Romanian soldiers, but they were lagging behind. The Romanian troops had own front line, but the Soviet troops were in the right and left flank and they moved much faster than the Romanians which caused a gap. And if the Germans would have been used this gap, then they could have attacked the side the Soviets. The Soviets did not want this. When the bridgehead of Pest narrowed, the front line gradually shortened. At a point, the participation of Romanians became unnecessary, because the Soviets were able to do it. So Soviet General Rodion Malinovsky said, we can do it without the Romanians, not need to lagging 200-300 meter behind the front line of the Soviets. Malinovsky withdrew the Romanian forces from Budapest and regrouped them on the North Hungarian front.
Вопрос зачем Венгрия вообще участвовала в операции Барбаросса? Вы тут описали о вашей героической обороне и прочие, но скажу как русский, о вас в России плохая память и сотвественно отношение к вам. Венгры оставили о себе очень плохую память под Воронежем и на Донбассе из за уничтожения местного населения и участия в антипартизанских акциях, а фактически осуществления планов геноцида по отношению к русскому населению. По этому с вами не особе церемонились в 1956 году. Вообще не понятны устремления тогдашних народов европы против СССР в 1941 году, войны велись и до этого , в первую мировую мой прадед воевал против немцев и не помнил такого ожесточения и жестокого обращения с мирным населением, но зачем нужно было вам Венграм расстреливать десятки тысяч человек на юге России? С уважением.
The facts of True History are bewildering and make the pieces of the Historical Puzzle fit together - thank you for another fact-filled lecture on History that makes sense of WWII Events!
Thanks, James!
Great work Stefan! The content keeps getting better.
Many thanks Chris!
As a half-Hungarian, I like this !
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Great Channel love the vids keep up the good work :)
Great to read thanks!
One of the most interesting things I know about Szálasi is that he insisted he wasn't "Anti-Semetic", and he was instead "Asemetic". He claimed he didn't want to eradicate Judaism, but it just had no place in Hungary. Of course, he also did nothing to stop the genocide, so I really don't know what he was trying to say.
Trying to evade responsiblity.
My friends from Hungary hate the Hungarians with a passion given wht they did.
I read something like that as well. There is a difference between what Szálasi said and what Szálasi did. His Arrow Cross henchmen performed executions near the Danube. That says enough I think. Beside: you can be an antisemite without wanting Jewish people eradicated.
If one read Szalasi's books and published articles, he only asked the simple question for anyone of Jewish origin. He wanted them to be asked " are you a Jew who happens to live in Hungary or are you a Hungarian who happens to come from Jewish origin?" He only wanted Hungary for Hungarians. If one reads accounts from the 1930s, he didn't even like the German Nazis and if one researches further, the Nazi's tried several times to assassinate him in the late 30s due to his hostility to anything German or non Hungarian. Szalasi's and the founders of the Arrowcross wanted the Volksdeutsch to leave Hungary and be among their own people. This doesn't make up nor am I condoning what happened in 1944 and what happened to the Jews ultimately in Hungary. I'm just saying what he wrote and advocated for and what happened are two entirely different things.
@Mutant Pig That Hungarians are mostly antisemites, we know. That this antisemitism resulted in Hungary becoming a backwater we also know.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Strength and power come and go for all countries. At least we're not Serbian, because you can't get rid of that
The Monument of the Shoes is probably the most unforgettable memorial I have ever seen. Thank you for this presentation.
Agree, thanks Eleanor!
Ah, that is my hometown on the thumbnail.
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Mine too
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for sure!
Great video! I have been subscribed for over a year now and i have the bell notifications on but for the past couple of months I'm not getting any notification i really thought videos weren't updated regularly. Anyone else having the same issue?
I sometimes notice it. Strange. Anyway, thanks for watching!
I'm late.....
But I've made it.
You're one of my can't miss channels "dutch history teacher"
No problem you're late. You've made it!
nice, another interesting video, sent by Stefan to us all, hurray!
Thanks for your reply!
@@HistoryHustle you are welcome, more teachers should be like you, Stefan, making the content easy to learn.
I was in Budapest for 2 months in the winter of 1992..a very beautiful and unpretentious city...
Agree! Can you tell us: what was the atmosphere back in 1992? Communism was just gone for a few years. How did people talk about their lives?
@@HistoryHustle Well, it was very cold and the roads, sidewalks were really slippery as I found out the hard way with serious grip issues with my shoes...old ladies walking around me, lol. Anyhow, they loved Americans since we were fairly new to them...everything was cheap, a beer (.5liter) was a dollar. Two years removed from Soviet rule and it seemed compared to the Czech Republic, for example, a bit behind transitioning to capitalism even though George Soros was the main man in Hungry... but he wasn't too popular, don't know if it's because he was Jewish or due to his immense wealth, probably both. I can go on but I'll stop here, lmk if you have any other questions. Egészségedre (cheers in Magyar)
Egészségedre! Thanks for sharing.
You should do a more in depth one about Bulgaria and it’s different states from the interwar to 1944-45. Maybe Romania and Slovakia too. Would be cool.
Slovakia: ua-cam.com/video/L2vFJDav_AA/v-deo.html
Romania: ua-cam.com/video/nMryKjtF9g0/v-deo.html
Bulgaria: ua-cam.com/video/d2ooWaovOd4/v-deo.html
Your videos are excellent. Keep up the great work!
Many thanks👍
Great work, didn't know very much about this at all. Cheers 🍸🥃🍀
Thank you, Brent!
I lived in Kecskemet for a year and always enjoyed taking the train into Budapest. The Jewish quarter is such a beautiful part of the city - devastating that the entire Jewish population was deported to the death camps in those six months.
Thanks for sharing this.
most jews in the capital survived the war (appr. 60-70thousand) and were deliberated by the Russian front in January '45, the jews from the countryside and rural areas were though methodically gathered and ransported to extermination camps from the spring of 1944. Appr. 400-500thousand of them.
All those Jews housed, rescued from the gas chambers. And then to be arrested by Russian 'liberators' to disappear in Moscow.. 'no good deed goes unpunished' so they say.. Dramatic to say the least!
Thanks for sharing the story, appreciate it a lot!
Greets, T.
Cheers, T.!
Another short masterpiece
Thanks Ben.
Hi sir I always watch all of your videos I never paused because u explained so well can I request the battle of france 1940 pls thanks
👍 One day I'll cover the Battle of France. Cannot tell when.
This is a fascinating documentary!
Thanks Daniel.
Excellent presentation professor! I come from Hungary and there would be some more interesting things. Horthy only accepted Szálsi because his younger son was abducted by the Germans. Szálasi was, in short, a traitor to the Hungarian people. While the siege of Budapest, Szálasi gave a lecture on the Hungarian state in Kőszeg. Szálasi was just a german puppet. After the war, Szálsi was hanged in Hungary. The provisional government in Debrecen was appointed bi the Sovietunion.
Many thanks for your reply!
He also said after the war something to the affect of "A signature signed with a machine in to your back is not a signature", so he never really considered the Szálasi government legitimate
@@andrasbeke3012 Yes that s right. Szálasi never was a legitimate hungarian leader. He was just a traitor.
Szálasi az utolsó igaz Magyar Nemzetvezető!
Interesting that Stalin let Horthy escape to Portugal after the war because of this, he did try to prevent unnecessary death and destruction, even thuogh he was also right-wing reactionary
Interesting topic the video was really nice as well I like it when you travel! coukd you do a video about the Hellenic state? its an interesting topic not discussed at all here in YT.
Hope to travel to Greece one day. Cannot tell when.
Wow I didn't even know this existed. Learned something new again.
Great!
Interesting video.
(There are huge parts of European history that are almost entirely unknown in Britain. Its part of the reason we've ended up with the Brexit shambles. We were taught to feel separate to Europe.)
Anyway, keep up the good work! :-)
Many thanks, Steve.
Let me guess, Battle of Budapest is coming up!
But to this video: Szálasi and the Nyilas Party and its followers did almost as much damage to Hungary as the Red Army. It was truly an era of madness, the darkest and most tragic part of our history...
Thanks for your reply. And yes: in a few weeks the battle will be covered.
Excellent Stefan, plenty of interesting history to be found in Hungary🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟. I read an excellent book on Raoul Wallenberg named “The Envoy” by Alex Kershaw, highly recommended.
When I visited Sweden in the 70s, every other factory etc. belonged to the Wallenberg family. He was a hero.
Except for the vignette in Soljenytsyn, we don't know what happened to him.
Many thanks, Tanya!!
Great video, but Stefan I have a qestion 7:30 , "Soviet control " = occuption ? if its so why you don't use this term ?
Same same.
@@HistoryHustle good, we have suffered so much (so many years ) under Moscow Barbaric occupation, It´ll be great if western , lucky part of Europe show some solidarity ...
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Wow man thanks 🙏🏽 sad story
You're welcome. Sad story indeed.
As someone who has a roma girlfriend it breaks my heart to see how many innocent lives were lost just because of ethnicity
Sad history indeed.
Great video.
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Thanks. Very interesting and informative.
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Since you nominally seek knowledge and facts, here is the definition of interesting: attracting your attention and making you want to learn more about something: not dull or boring
That was an interesting video.
But you knew that when typing your virtue-signaling invective. You can troll elsewhere now, your work here is done.
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Which one was worse in your opinion, Ferenc Szalasi or Matyas Rakosi?
Both.
@@HistoryHustle Rakosi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@HistoryHustle Rakosi!!!!!!. I lived under both, I am 83 years old and I remember!
Hello History Hustle Can you Do a Feature Video about the Philippines under Ferdinand E. Marcos from 1965 to 1986
Sorry, not anytime soon.
Great video as always. BZ.
If Horthy could stop the transports in July, he could have ordered the ministry of interior to refuse to cooperate with the Germans earlier on.. It was only when Horthy received threatening calls from all over the world in July 1944, including Great Britain and the United States, that he decided to act .
Thanks again for replying, BZ!
Hello History Hustle Can you do a video about the Philippines under Ferdinand E. Marcos from 1965 to 1986
Sorry, not anytime soon.
Wow you here in Hungary? Thanks for making this video, even if just breifley it describes and explains some things about the fascist state established in Hungary at that the time and the stories of thoes who opposed and supported it. Because i live here i have researched this interesting topic a lot. After all, all of us conscious historians and amature historians can agree on that this short period was probably the darkest and most painful part of Hungarian history. This is just one example of fascism and how much suffering it caused everywhere where it occured, we should all remember that we should never let such a horde of bandits and criminals govern any country across the globe.
Thanks for your reply!
great video like always!
just one small thing at 2:28 it doesn't say i have no mercy But i don't know mercy very small tho good video none the less :D
Thanks for your reply. I put the words in google translate and this came out of it. I stand corrected👍
@@HistoryHustle np just a small thing i wanted to point out
Can you make a video talking about how the Germans feared and hated the Soviets and never wanted to surrender to them?
Covered here
ua-cam.com/video/L_g1QpEtkLI/v-deo.html
@@HistoryHustle Thank you. You replied really quick.
Nice video
Thanks.
@@HistoryHustle the Danube is so awesome
Good video, but actually, the Arrow-crossed party have made a lot of passports to Sweden, Szálasi never wanted to kill the jews, as he said "it's waste of manpower"
The most of the killers were only peoples who "wanted to help" the Hungarism, not actual Arrowed soldiers
Doubt if this is the case. The only reports of AC members helping Jews were at the end when defeat was imminent and the wanted to look good for the incoming Soviets.
@@HistoryHustle László Karsai, Hungarian jewsih historian said this.
Also, one of his interwiew he said that " unfortunetly, I have to agree with the fascist historians about the Arrowed cross terror"
No one knows more about Szálasi and the Arrowed cross party than he does
Interesting.
I like this channel but it so annoyingly to hear [Ferenk Zalasi]. More correct is [Férents Sálashi], letter S gives sound sh as well as Z gives zh, for it's neutralization they add letter c after s/z to make sounds s or z
I stand corrected.
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From 1920 to 1944 Hungary was a monarchy without a king. Adm. Miklos Horthy ruled as regent of that country. There was talk of restoring the Habsburg monarchy in Hungary after World War I with former Austro-Hungarian emperor Karl I and wife Zita as king and queen, but Horthy wouldn't hear of it.
I heard that horthy had a split in loyalties as he had tasted power but he was still loyal to the monarchy
@@Thatoneidiot001 what do you mean by split in loyalties.
4:13 - A Soviet photographer snapped this picture in Budapest. The Germans and Arrow Cross had been driven off, at least in that area. Shortly after their Star of David badges were removed.
I subscribed
Welcome to the channel.
@@HistoryHustle thanks
Nice video, but it hurts my ears to hear you pronounce the Hungarian names and places.
I know.
The Budapest-ghetto was protected and fed by Hungarian Arrow Cross. There is a saying, if you cannot speak freely about it, keep quiet. (But I must admit, this seems a decent summary.)
You can speak freely but I can go into discussion with you about this. I believe this is revisionism. Two things I've read in the book I used as a source for this video:
- the SS protected the ghetto so the Jews could be deported in an ordily way.
- some Arrow Cross did protect Jews on their own initiative so they wouldn't be prosecuted by the Soviets.
@@HistoryHustle The book you used for the video is obviously not an original source. It may still be true, but my ( non-expert ) opinion is that books on this subject lie a lot. (By the way, I am honoured by your reply.)
Would President Putin not finally set the record straight about Wallenberg, it would be a good gesture of Mr Putin.
I agree.
Great colour photo of the king Tiger.
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Can you create a discord?
Perhaps.
@@HistoryHustle if you do, post the invite in this comment for me to join, or make a video about it ^=^
what does the arrow cross symbol means?
Reclaiming the lost borders and expanding in 4 directions, as an ancient meaning of "ward off the evil eye" in Nomadic-Turanic symbolism. It also probably quotes Æd0lf H!tler in his words "Our movement is Christian".
Good question.
@rmd116nwthwt: thanks for answering this one.
Okay but without historical context…that’s a pretty cool flag not gunna lie.
It's an interesting flag.
That's the point of Fascist symbolism. It's meant to give you a sense of power, and pride. There's a reason so many people went along with it back then.
I wonder. Would you do a piece on Oradour sur Glane? The Limousin and Alsace have not yet make peace because of it.
One day I'll go there!
The Hungarist Movement was not a "fascist" movement, it was closer to the German National Socialism than the Italian Fascism. The title is wrong. Today the Hungarian academic historiography not used the world "fascist" for Szálasi and his ideology and movement. (Of course Szálasi explained that the Hitlerism, the Fascism and Hungarism is different in many thing. E.g. he wrote that the goal of fascism is the totality of the state, the goal of Hitlerism is the totality of race, and the goal of Hungarism is the totality of the nation.)
If it looks like a fascist, swims like a fascist, and quacks like a fascist, then it probably is a fascist. I consider nazism as a form of fascism. There is a recent trent to view fascism and nazism as worlds apart. This isn't the case.
Please don't forget Spanish diplomat Angel Sanz Briz.. who extended countlees of Spanish pasaports to Sefardi Judewish and some others saving hundreds of people in BUDAPEST
Indeed, there were more. Also the Italian Giorgio Perlasca.
My father was a boy at the time, but he still remembers seeing the German army when it swept into the country.
Thanks for sharing.
The more i here about skorszeny the less i like him.
It really shows how much the west accepted nazis after the war. As patton one said, “we defeated the wrong enemy” honestly it’s not surprising considering how much the nazis were inspired by America and manifest destiny.
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Okay, naziboy. No one disputes that Stalin was a monster...but that makes the Nazis what, our friends?! No, no, and no. Skorzeny was a lifelong, unrepentant, fanatical Nazi war criminal hiding out in fascist Spain for decades after the war. We did not fight the wrong enemy. And let's not forget that it was the Red Army that crushed your mass-murdering, cowardly heroes, not the Western Allies.
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Nazbol argument against fascist critics:
STALIN BAD
We know that, now anything rational in defence of fascism.
Nazbol:STALIN BAD
bro Stalin died long time ago what argument do you have now.
Nazbol;STALIN BAD
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@@haeuptlingaberja4927 bro I agree! I hate skorzenys legacy and am disgusted with how we accepted him as a “respectable” soldier. I think Patton was insane for saying that too. It just shows imo the fascist tendencies of many countries in the west.
@@Ramtin-Blue_rose I’m a not a nazi bro just making the point that the western powers had and still have fascist tendencies. Do you see my last name? The nazis wouldn’t have liked me very much lol
This is a good video but it misses the history of Adolf Eichmann being the defacto ruler of Budapest, not the Arrow Cross. 🐧
Also, Technically and I haven't read all of it Hungary was in direct violation of the Munich Agreement of 1940 a signed agreement which gave Germany diplomatic rights over sovereign Hungary.
Good punt. The AC was a puppet regime.
Interesting stuff, one of the less well known parts of World War Two.
Thanks for your reply.
There’s a couple of movies about Wallenberg. Goodnight mr. Wallenberg and Wallenberg. It’s believed he died in a soviet prison. The truth has never been revealed.
Thanks for sharing!
I visited Central Europe once, cathedrals and all, but the most memorable was the brass shoes by the Danube River and the marker around Budapest where people of Jewish background were either snatched up or out right killed.
An impressive monument.
@@HistoryHustle What really riles me is that now in the whole of Europe they try to attract Jewish tourists with these monuments. In Buda they are restoring an old synagogue. In Barcelona they have a Jewish tour...
Too little too late.
@@patriciabrenner9216 That synagogue is only one of many ongoing restorations, and it's a universal architectural value, I don't think they do it only for jewish tourists. Primarily these monuments are serving as a remembrance to these people and also shows what not to do again. It's more of a side effect that these attract tourism. If someone is visiting a foreign Central European country, I don't think they do it for the holocaust memorials in the first place. Poland is an exception, but they have the camps. And what did the Spanish do to Jews that now it's a shame they have a Jewish tour? Can you explain more what you think?
@@p.b.5107 1492 for the Spain. First they expellthe Jews, put the Inquisition on them and now they want to profit from the Jewish past.
As to Budapest, look at the Danube.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Okay, thanks for explaining. By the way, the old synagogue there has a Hebrew owner, so if he takes money, than he is also gaining from this, which would be quite ironic.
I know what happened in Budapest.
"they wasn't true fascist state until 1944..." Yeah, but that didnt prevent to commit genocide tendencies againsr Serb and Jews in occupied Yugoslav territoriest. Stephan, check out event occured in Backa, Novi Sad in early 1942.
I have and mention it in another video. Not all countries that carry out a massacre are fascist. My country the Netherlands did such things in Indonesia, but was not fascist.
@@HistoryHustle It is possible for democracies to operate fascistic regimes in their colonies. I'm no expert on Dutch colonial history, but that was certainly the case with the British Empire in India & Africa.
I dont understand one thing why didnt horthy send the jews away?
Where to? All Hungary's neighbours were Axis.
He couldnt,he was sorrounded by axis countries
No resurrection without Good Friday!
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There are plenty of Hungarians today who would act as the Arrocross member have,given the opportunity.Just read some comments on UA-cam channels concerning Israel or Jews.
I see.
Hungary was the first state to get run over by the Red Army.
Weren't these the Baltics in 1940?
Szálasi was an ethnic Armenian, by the way, his original name was Salashyan. So he wasn't even Hungarian by ethnicity.
I see, didn't know this.
He was part Rusyn, Slovak, German, Armenian and Hungarian. His real surname was Salossian when his greatgrandfather came to Hungary
@Bázisolt. Shalom fellow Hungaryan
He was closer to the Kardashians than you think.
Why did the Jews just sit back and they knew their life’s ment nothing to their enemies I rather fight till I die
The passivity of many Jews baffled historians. There is much too it. Perhaps something for a future episode.
Many people in Eastern Europe were conditioned to not resist authority.
Why did you attack Russia, Magyarok, if Hungary was "Trianoned" by *_England_* *_and_* *_France?_*
I actually answered that question this video:
ua-cam.com/video/tvuMQ6OV4BA/v-deo.html
I guess for the same stupid reason why Britain and France didnt declare war on the Soviet Union when they invaded Poland as Germany allies.
A: German-sided politics and also everyone believed the Soviet Union will crumble in weeks, even the Western powers thought so.
B: the USSR was a blunt, infamous great power right behind our back plus they had a notable Hungarian population.
C: after the communist terror of 1919 in our country there was a great fear of communism in basically everyone in Hungary. (Well in the political class in the whole Europe)
The "Nyilaskereszt's (Arrowcross) Hungarista policy sounds awfully similar to the modern day Hungary "Jobbik" party's philosophy. Hmmm. Interesting.
Nihil nove sub sole.
@funeralfriendship right, except ruling a democracy, having elections, having opposition parties, having opposition press, allowing people to leave the country if they wish, etc
They are fascist if your definition of fascist is "anyone that disagrees with me", which it appears to be
Farfetched comparison.
One result of the communist takeover of Eastern Europe has been that the hatred and problems that existed before were as if frozen during the communist era. With the fall of communism, the ice melted and they came back to the surface and these countries didn't have the 50 years that Western Europe had to deal with them.
Man, the Soviets really had to arrest a basically Swedish Schindler. 🤦♂🙄
Yeah.. sad I know.
Schindler is a German name!
Wait !!!Horthy wasn't fascist?
So what was he!?
Conservative nationalist I'd say.
Horthy outlawed fascist parties in Hungary. Sure, he was authoritarian, but more of a Monarchist. He wanted to be a King, not a dictator
I agree with Hustle, he was a conservative authoritarian, not a fascist.
I don't like him anyway, the only positive legacy he left was the violin part of his theme song 🎻
He refused to take part in the attack on Poland. He also refused to kill jews. His strategy was simple- regain the land which were lost at Trianon.
@@andrasbeke3012
He really outlawed fascist party ??!
So why he became Hitlers bitch, I can understand why he cooperated with Germany against Romania, czech,Yugoslavia but why soviet union if he was not fascist what kind of problem did he have?
Good work Stefan , but don't whitewash the Hungarian involvement with troops on the Nazi Eastern front and the deportation of much of the Jewish population .
Horti was only in contact with the Allies because he knew that the war was lost .
I refer to my sources and I'm not whitewashing anything. The video btw isn't about their involvement on the Eastern Front. Hope to cover that later.
Hungary benefited territorially from its relationship with the Axis. Settlements were negotiated regarding territorial disputes with the Czechoslovak Republic, the Slovak Republic, and the Kingdom of Romania. On November 20, 1940, Hungary became the fourth member to join the Axis powers when it signed the Tripartite Pact.[2] The following year, Hungarian forces participated in the invasion of Yugoslavia and the invasion of the Soviet Union. Their participation was noted by German observers for its particular cruelty, with occupied peoples subjected to arbitrary violence. Hungarian volunteers were sometimes referred to as engaging in "murder tourism."
@@HistoryHustle thanks
I suggested to someone (maybe this fellow), to do the Arrow-Cross. I'd never heard of them until we went on a river cruise, which included Budapest. We were told that, to save ammunition, Jewish kids had their shoes tied together. The first Jew was shot by the river, which dragged the others to their deaths!
Perhaps I'll cover more on the Arrow Cross in the future.
The losses suffered by Hungary on the Don river while holding the line for the Wehrmacht 6th army were shocking...then they went full fascist!!!!!
Good. Too bad some survived.
They only went "full fascist" from October 1944. Almost two years after the Don disaster.
It matter little what national or political sympathies were , Stalin had one consistent solution
Indeed.
Ezek voltak a Nyilasok ,,a Fönök volt a Szàlasi !!__Szèp Sütemèny volt !!
English please.
@@HistoryHustle I can only Speak Hungarian or German But Greetings From Germany..
@Bázisolt. Nem ismered ?? Szàlasi !!!!!!
@Bázisolt. Külön oda irtam hogy ki volt ,vannak sokan akik nem is ismertèk ,,amugy az Iskolàban is hibàssan mondtàk nekünk ,,,valamikor 50 ève . !! Ismertem is Embereket akik Nyilasok voltak !! abban az idöben !!
And it's becoming fascist all over again today.
Exaggerated I think.
It would be a honor to die to feed someone , bless that woman , she tried
She did yes.
Dik kösz a videót, de azé csak észel a magyarokról
"Dik thanks for the video, but you only know about the Hungarians".
Not sure what you mean exactly, but thanks!
@@HistoryHustle that's only hungarians know what does that mean. This is impossible to translate to other languages. Thanks a videóért mégegyszer te sutyerák!
@@HistoryHustle And for the sake of interest, in hungarian, arrow cross is "nyilaskereszt"
@Bázisolt. Győzünk!
Raoul Wallenberg. Raoul Wallenberg. Raoul Wallenberg. (United States War Relief Board)
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Italy with Mussolini was fascist. Hungary with Szálasi Ferenc was not fascist, please don't mix up the basics.
Care to explain?
@@HistoryHustlei think he means National Socialism and Fascism are different
Nowadays it's similarities.
Lot of"democratic parties"allied with the westerners rulers.....
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Ferenc Szálasi was of Armenian origin
Didnt know.
The gopnik of national unity
Thought gokniks came from Russia...
That's what you said. 0:13