Thanks for sharing your journey. I had a similar situation with a 24 hour race I did last New Years where I had a 100 mile goal. Conditions were awful, I was prepared for sunny and 70, and it was wind, rain and 30’s. I had to borrow my wife’s windbreaker that had a good with no drawstring, and the sleeves mid-forearm. Long story short everything got to me, especially mentally. I dropped at 50. A few months later I did another 24 hour with a simple goal, have fun, and ran my farthest ever, 78 miles. I also have my sights set on my first 100 in October. Best wishes on yours!
Thanks for putting this one out. Talking about DNF's is far more important than looking fondly back on completions. Knowing your limits in heat is incredibly important safety wise. For me, I know I cannot beat the heat no matter how much I train. I stay away from long and/or exposed runs until after September. And if I get to the stage of pissing cola its an automatic out for me. Having my muscles die and stress my kidneys is just not worth it for me when there's always another race. Good job on making the right decision for you!
Really enjoyed your honesty. I'm running my first 100 and I'm going to take your points to heart. And will watch this video a few more times before Leadville. I've DNF'd plenty of Ironmans and marathons so I get it. But really, the ultra life is a long game. Regardless of what happens for me at Leadville, I'm in it for the long game.
I'd love to run Leadville someday! What a classic! Thanks so much for watching! I really tried to put my pride aside and just tell it like it is. The ultra life can get ugly sometimes but these moments make us stronger. I hope you have great success in your upcoming race!
Thanks for sharing! I know this video is a few years old but DNF's are hard and the lessons they teach us live on and inform us years later. I had a similar heat related experience at the Cohutta 100 (100 mile mountain bike race in northern Georgia/eastern Tennessee) almost a decade ago... time flies. That DNF has informed so many subsequent races and experiences for me. Based on your more recent videos, it looks like you've had several successful 100 milers (including the redemption at VT 100)! I've been gearing up for my first 100 mile foot race here in a few weeks and your videos have helped me prepare! Thanks for putting out such great content! I need to get one of those hats...
As a first-time volunteer for this race, I so enjoy hearing your story. Glad you are still moving forward with the next race. I also hope you will be back at the Vermont 100 in any capacity, runner or volunteer. I made friends who I have no doubt will last a lifetime. -Look forward to seeing your journeys ahead!
Thanks for sharing your story. I also DNF'd at VT in 2019 and was super bummed. I have had to change my perspective and view that race as just another training stepping stone in my ultra journey. I will be back at VT this coming year, let's hope it is not as hot!
Thanks for watching! I tried to put my pride and shame aside and just tell the raw truth. These videos aren't easy for me to make... I'm not a sharer but I think theres a lot to be learned from failure and getting outside my comfort zone is good for me. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for this recap. I appreciate your honesty. I have DNF'd a few hundred milers. I have completed more than I've dropped so I guess I am learning. Each race is completely different and so I try to just roll with the punches. I am attempting Vermont this weekend and the temps are supposed to be in the high 80s and 100 percent humidity. I know that is nothing compared to 2019 weather but I still hoped to glean some insight from other runners that took on the race in 2019. I will be watching your other videos soon. Thanks again. :)
Huge respect to you for sharing your story here with complete honesty and admitting mistakes. That shows courage and for that I salute you. I'll learn from this so thanks.
I had the pleasure of meeting Ed Viesturs years ago, and he attributed much of his success to one piece of knowledge. He said that too many mountaineers view the summit as the goal. He said that this is exactly wrong. The goal is the summit and back down. You seem to have this wisdom. I can't wait to hit play on episode 6. I'm behind you on the path. Thank you for shining a light up ahead..
Thanks! This video is a couple of years old and I just recently came back to Vermont for redemption! I have a whole video about it on the channel. Thanks for watching!
"You've got to think life can give you some bad knocks; no matter how hard you're knocked, you've got to get up" (Eddie the Eagle) BTW: In March this year I had a DNF. This course was here in N.Z and bloody tough, brutal. After 14 hours I missed the last cut-off by 21 minutes. Normally you learn more when you lose than win.
I am looking to try to get into the VT100 next year. My hottest ultra race was a humid 85 degrees in Va, I don't know what exactly my plan would be facing a near 100 degree day. DNFs are learning experiences just like finished races, learn and move on. Thanks for sharing.
85F is still a bit too warm for an ultra! But yeah... this was on another level. I think the temps peaked at over 110F that day and 60% of the field DNF'd. I'll be back this year! Thanks for watching.
Just ran into your videos, which I enjoyed - save the horrible race day conditions you faced. Just paced a runner at Superior 100 in Minnesota (about miles 70-83). Was wondering if you will be using pacers for at least the latter stages of your next attempt...
Hey Manny, thanks for watching! I'm currently 3 weeks out from my next 100 miler and I'm still not 100% sure of my game plan. I'm trying not to overthink too much and the logistics of getting pacers from one place to another at a point to point race is difficult! I think I'll be using a pacer for the last 30 miles, a friend of mine is on board. I just need to commit. hopefully this will be enough to pull me through!
I come from a background of solo long mountain runs so I'm pretty self sufficient. That said, I was really envious of other runners crews at Vermont. I think I might reconsider if I come back next year. Thanks for watching!
This is a great video, thanks for sharing your experience! I was wondering how big of a water bottle you were carrying. You mention about 7 minutes in that at one point you began drinking waterat every aid station and refilling and still running out between aid stations. Would be super helpful in my race planning. Thanks!!
I had two 500ml flasks so I could carry about 1 liter between aid stations. Should have been more than enough considering how close the aid stations are to each other at this race... but it wasn't haha. Thanks for watching!
Wow I had pretty much the same experience on my first 100 miler so depressing when you drop out at mile 50.As, It seems nothing compared to 100 miles. Cycology its hard as well when people end up overtaking as well when you go of to fast it makes the whole experience even worse! Hopefully next time it will be a lot more enjoyable experience!
I actually recorded an entire video I was going to call "Packing for my first solo 100 miler" but in light of the mistakes I made I decided not to post it. Maybe I can re-do that into something like "how I should have packed for my first 100 miler"? Ultimately I had things like a med kit, sun block, bug spray, a small battery bank for my watch and a few other items I could have done without. I'm not sure how much it would have helped but by the end I could feel every ounce of that vest. Thanks for watching!
Very good story. Looking the images where you take decision to drop, it come the question if you suffer some allergic reactions to that forest tree (birch tree). You have the typical symptoms like red eyes, breaths problems and voice level going down.
Circa 7:00 in the video did you have any indication as to whether your weight was down a lot since the start? (If the race provided scales at some of the aid stations) likely some of the calorie provisions you were using were not for you I hope you were not depending on gatorbarf running a 100 on a truly hot day is a lot different than on a cool day,if you feel the least bit warmer than needed for comfort standing around in shorts and singlet in the dark before the start you know that the day will feature heat and you will likely need to consume multiple gallons of fluid over the duration of the event,and when it comes down to dehydration water is the most effective fluid,when not dehydrated you have more ability to consume other things I hated to wear waterbelts and carry bottles in the races and found that I generally didn't need them unless doing a particularly long hot stretch between aid stations,however you need to be cognisant of what kind of cups or containers will be available at the aid stations or even send some of your own ahead of time to the race (most of the cups they have are too small) that is part of the argument for having to carry a water bottle ,in my most successful hot day 100 (O.D. in 1990) I had one litre bottles of Exceed mixed to taste at various aid stations that I could carry out and jettison after about a mile down the road empty there used to still be the original Powerbar in 1990 which was superior to what it became after a large food conglomerate bought out the original maker of the Powerbar (the original had very little or no added salt and was somewhat starchy,later it was changed to be more like candy after the conglomerate messed with the formula I found that I didn't handle salt well and benefited from trying to avoid salted food as much as possible when not running,most of the beverages such as Exceed and even Pepsi/Coke contain some salt which might be beneficial ,Gatorade contains a huge amount of salt which is why I think it has the nauseating effect I understand some runners have a recessive Cystic Fibrosis gene that causes them to lose a lot of salt in sweat that has to be replaced (salt=sodium)
This race didn’t provide scales but I know my body and it was certainly dehydrated. I was consuming a lot of water, salt, and electrolytes but the heat was too much for me that day. Fortunately I was able to finish this race this year! Thanks for watching.
The one in the video? It's an REI "on the trail" hat. I'm not sure if they sell them anymore. You can also check out my merch store for "Chase the Summit" hats which are guaranteed to make you faster at your next race 🙃 www.chasethesummit.bigcartel.com
@@U2T_YT Only tip I can give you is to "just do it". I was pretty nervous about being in front of the camera for a while. Nervous about what my friends and family would think. Once you break the ice it's much easier! Good luck!
Thanks for sharing your journey. I had a similar situation with a 24 hour race I did last New Years where I had a 100 mile goal. Conditions were awful, I was prepared for sunny and 70, and it was wind, rain and 30’s. I had to borrow my wife’s windbreaker that had a good with no drawstring, and the sleeves mid-forearm. Long story short everything got to me, especially mentally. I dropped at 50. A few months later I did another 24 hour with a simple goal, have fun, and ran my farthest ever, 78 miles. I also have my sights set on my first 100 in October. Best wishes on yours!
Congrats on making it to 78! That's a great goal to have. Good luck in October and thanks for watching!
Thanks for putting this one out. Talking about DNF's is far more important than looking fondly back on completions. Knowing your limits in heat is incredibly important safety wise. For me, I know I cannot beat the heat no matter how much I train. I stay away from long and/or exposed runs until after September. And if I get to the stage of pissing cola its an automatic out for me. Having my muscles die and stress my kidneys is just not worth it for me when there's always another race. Good job on making the right decision for you!
Thanks for the kind words!
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wow!!! 50% dropped!!! so glad you are home safe and sound... thank you for sharing your story...
It was brutal out there! Thanks for watching and your support!
Really enjoyed your honesty. I'm running my first 100 and I'm going to take your points to heart. And will watch this video a few more times before Leadville. I've DNF'd plenty of Ironmans and marathons so I get it. But really, the ultra life is a long game. Regardless of what happens for me at Leadville, I'm in it for the long game.
I'd love to run Leadville someday! What a classic! Thanks so much for watching! I really tried to put my pride aside and just tell it like it is. The ultra life can get ugly sometimes but these moments make us stronger. I hope you have great success in your upcoming race!
Thanks for sharing! I know this video is a few years old but DNF's are hard and the lessons they teach us live on and inform us years later. I had a similar heat related experience at the Cohutta 100 (100 mile mountain bike race in northern Georgia/eastern Tennessee) almost a decade ago... time flies. That DNF has informed so many subsequent races and experiences for me. Based on your more recent videos, it looks like you've had several successful 100 milers (including the redemption at VT 100)! I've been gearing up for my first 100 mile foot race here in a few weeks and your videos have helped me prepare! Thanks for putting out such great content! I need to get one of those hats...
As a first-time volunteer for this race, I so enjoy hearing your story. Glad you are still moving forward with the next race. I also hope you will be back at the Vermont 100 in any capacity, runner or volunteer. I made friends who I have no doubt will last a lifetime. -Look forward to seeing your journeys ahead!
Thanks for watching! I'll definitely be back. And I appreciate your volunteer support! Without you folks I would have called it quits much earlier!
Thank you for the honesty you portrayed in this video. I wish you all the best as you pursue this substantial goal.
Thanks for sharing your story. I also DNF'd at VT in 2019 and was super bummed. I have had to change my perspective and view that race as just another training stepping stone in my ultra journey. I will be back at VT this coming year, let's hope it is not as hot!
Thanks for sharing! It's tough to share things that dont go the way you expect. Im sure you will do great at your next attempt
Thanks for watching! I tried to put my pride and shame aside and just tell the raw truth. These videos aren't easy for me to make... I'm not a sharer but I think theres a lot to be learned from failure and getting outside my comfort zone is good for me. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for this recap. I appreciate your honesty. I have DNF'd a few hundred milers. I have completed more than I've dropped so I guess I am learning. Each race is completely different and so I try to just roll with the punches. I am attempting Vermont this weekend and the temps are supposed to be in the high 80s and 100 percent humidity. I know that is nothing compared to 2019 weather but I still hoped to glean some insight from other runners that took on the race in 2019. I will be watching your other videos soon. Thanks again. :)
Great vid, relatable, relevant, informative, inspirational, and congrats on midstate finish.
Thanks for watching!
Huge respect to you for sharing your story here with complete honesty and admitting mistakes. That shows courage and for that I salute you. I'll learn from this so thanks.
Thank you!
I had the pleasure of meeting Ed Viesturs years ago, and he attributed much of his success to one piece of knowledge. He said that too many mountaineers view the summit as the goal. He said that this is exactly wrong. The goal is the summit and back down. You seem to have this wisdom. I can't wait to hit play on episode 6. I'm behind you on the path. Thank you for shining a light up ahead..
Thanks! This video is a couple of years old and I just recently came back to Vermont for redemption! I have a whole video about it on the channel. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Your honesty will help others doing similar runs I'm sure.
I appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing your story. Lots of lessons learned. Best of luck with your next adventure.
"You've got to think life can give you some bad knocks; no matter how hard you're knocked, you've got to get up" (Eddie the Eagle) BTW: In March this year I had a DNF. This course was here in N.Z and bloody tough, brutal. After 14 hours I missed the last cut-off by 21 minutes. Normally you learn more when you lose than win.
awesome video just found your channel, very awesome. looking forward to more videos
Thanks for watching!
Tough day out there! Good luck in October!
I am looking to try to get into the VT100 next year. My hottest ultra race was a humid 85 degrees in Va, I don't know what exactly my plan would be facing a near 100 degree day. DNFs are learning experiences just like finished races, learn and move on. Thanks for sharing.
85F is still a bit too warm for an ultra! But yeah... this was on another level. I think the temps peaked at over 110F that day and 60% of the field DNF'd. I'll be back this year! Thanks for watching.
Ya win some ya lose some. Great video man. Im takeing this one on this year 🤘. Stay hard
Thanks! I'll see you at the starting line. I'll be there again in 2022.
@@ChaseTheSummit So great I’m running it also.
Just ran into your videos, which I enjoyed - save the horrible race day conditions you faced. Just paced a runner at Superior 100 in Minnesota (about miles 70-83). Was wondering if you will be using pacers for at least the latter stages of your next attempt...
Hey Manny, thanks for watching! I'm currently 3 weeks out from my next 100 miler and I'm still not 100% sure of my game plan. I'm trying not to overthink too much and the logistics of getting pacers from one place to another at a point to point race is difficult! I think I'll be using a pacer for the last 30 miles, a friend of mine is on board. I just need to commit. hopefully this will be enough to pull me through!
Do you think that you'd reconsider getting a crew for next time? Thank you for sharing, I love these videos!
I come from a background of solo long mountain runs so I'm pretty self sufficient. That said, I was really envious of other runners crews at Vermont. I think I might reconsider if I come back next year. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit A wise man once said "a 50 is not a 100." Good luck at the next race!
This is a great video, thanks for sharing your experience! I was wondering how big of a water bottle you were carrying. You mention about 7 minutes in that at one point you began drinking waterat every aid station and refilling and still running out between aid stations. Would be super helpful in my race planning. Thanks!!
I had two 500ml flasks so I could carry about 1 liter between aid stations. Should have been more than enough considering how close the aid stations are to each other at this race... but it wasn't haha. Thanks for watching!
Wow I had pretty much the same experience on my first 100 miler so depressing when you drop out at mile 50.As, It seems nothing compared to 100 miles. Cycology its hard as well when people end up overtaking as well when you go of to fast it makes the whole experience even worse! Hopefully next time it will be a lot more enjoyable experience!
It was a wild ride! Not something I'd want to re-live but a solid lesson in what it takes to run those races. Thanks for watching.
can you share more about what you brought in your vest that you didnt need?
I actually recorded an entire video I was going to call "Packing for my first solo 100 miler" but in light of the mistakes I made I decided not to post it. Maybe I can re-do that into something like "how I should have packed for my first 100 miler"? Ultimately I had things like a med kit, sun block, bug spray, a small battery bank for my watch and a few other items I could have done without. I'm not sure how much it would have helped but by the end I could feel every ounce of that vest. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit I have my first 100km trail run in 16 days! Its called the Capes100. I have no aspirations other than to arrive alive.... :)
@@aplacetorambleon good luck!
Very good story. Looking the images where you take decision to drop, it come the question if you suffer some allergic reactions to that forest tree (birch tree). You have the typical symptoms like red eyes, breaths problems and voice level going down.
I think it was dehydration but I suppose some pollen allergy could have played into it? I wasn't feeling too hot! Thanks for watching.
Circa 7:00 in the video did you have any indication as to whether your weight was down a lot since the start? (If the race provided scales at some of the aid stations) likely some of the calorie provisions you were using were not for you I hope you were not depending on gatorbarf
running a 100 on a truly hot day is a lot different than on a cool day,if you feel the least bit warmer than needed for comfort standing around in shorts and singlet in the dark before the start you know that the day will feature heat and you will likely need to consume multiple gallons of fluid over the duration of the event,and when it comes down to dehydration water is the most effective fluid,when not dehydrated you have more ability to consume other things
I hated to wear waterbelts and carry bottles in the races and found that I generally didn't need them unless doing a particularly long hot stretch between aid stations,however you need to be cognisant of what kind of cups or containers will be available at the aid stations or even send some of your own ahead of time to the race (most of the cups they have are too small) that is part of the argument for having to carry a water bottle ,in my most successful hot day 100 (O.D. in 1990) I had one litre bottles of Exceed mixed to taste at various aid stations that I could carry out and jettison after about a mile down the road empty
there used to still be the original Powerbar in 1990 which was superior to what it became after a large food conglomerate bought out the original maker of the Powerbar (the original had very little or no added salt and was somewhat starchy,later it was changed to be more like candy after the conglomerate messed with the formula
I found that I didn't handle salt well and benefited from trying to avoid salted food as much as possible when not running,most of the beverages such as Exceed and even Pepsi/Coke contain some salt which might be beneficial ,Gatorade contains a huge amount of salt which is why I think it has the nauseating effect
I understand some runners have a recessive Cystic Fibrosis gene that causes them to lose a lot of salt in sweat that has to be replaced (salt=sodium)
This race didn’t provide scales but I know my body and it was certainly dehydrated. I was consuming a lot of water, salt, and electrolytes but the heat was too much for me that day. Fortunately I was able to finish this race this year! Thanks for watching.
Where can I get one of those cool hats? Gotta look good for them races!
The one in the video? It's an REI "on the trail" hat. I'm not sure if they sell them anymore. You can also check out my merch store for "Chase the Summit" hats which are guaranteed to make you faster at your next race 🙃 www.chasethesummit.bigcartel.com
Thanks! Love the vids too. I want to start a channel as well any tips
@@U2T_YT Only tip I can give you is to "just do it". I was pretty nervous about being in front of the camera for a while. Nervous about what my friends and family would think. Once you break the ice it's much easier! Good luck!
Will do! Thanks
Same here
psst.. might want to thank your wife! I've run three 100s, haven't DNF'd yet but it's bound to happen.Good luck at the next one.
I thanked her in person! Thanks for watching!
Don't want to look skinny, get injured often, and die young? Then don't do endurance exercise.
Why do we keep doing it? 😂