Mototec 48v Pro Controller Upgrade 3000w (pt.1) Electro&co ETM Kit
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- electro & company ETM kit for mototec 48v 1500w pro. this kit doubled the wattage on the motor to 3000w and it now does 35 with a good torque boost. Hope you like the video part 2 coming in a couple days. This thing rips and its ready for a 72v battery at any moment.
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This is awesome!
The man himself thank you sir🤘
If purchasing your controller for the stock 48v battery temporarily, what has to be done/whats the process when switching to a 72v battery
All youll need to do is swap the battery lead from the controller to one with an xt 90 and plug the new battery in! Thats all it takes
@@EmxBrandonhey I have this battery and I’m trying to find out the max amps on it I got the Kelly kvd with the ec4p v2 and I need to use the Bluetooth dongle to change settings can’t find the amp anywhere any ideas ?thanks in advance
@christianpudy4798 uf you talking about the green mototec battery, alot of us have pushed it to 70 amps. Id say 60 to be on the safe side, but its going to run out quick especially if your full throttle the whole time
I bought the bike months ago trying a diy kit that didn’t work. Always wished someone would make an upgrade kit!
So glad you made this video!!
Thank you!
Buying first chance I get!!
Hell yeah man thats what its all about glad you like the video. You wont be disappointed with the kit 👌 its so much fun my only regret is not buying it with the 72v battery 🤣 but thats next on the list
@@EmxBrandon dude, I think you’re the only one on UA-cam making videos with this kit right now.
Its awesome seeing that it even works. seriously look forward to more of this content from you.
And as far as the 72v battery 🔋 I hope you can get one soon. 👍
Hell yeah i was waiting electro and co to make a vid on the upgrade but those guys are blowing up and super busy so i figured id take advantage and put up a vid. I got an update video planned soon i wired in the key switch for when im out and about and dont want it stolen so easily
Hey Brandon for your first video you did a great job on it. Nice job explaining what you were going to do and showing what you did. I subscribe to your channel can’t wait for more videos buddy. Make sure you wear gloves you go down your gonna wish you had them on natural reaction is to brake your fall with you hands and you don’t want your palms to be missing a lot of skin r and a helmet also I know you might not think you may need one but it’s always good to be better safe then sorry. Plus I want to see more videos of you and riding and on the streets if someone ever hit you at least your head isn’t going to be smashed on the pavement. I’ve been riding for a very long time and never ride without gloves or helmet and the rest of my gear. Can’t wait to see more videos. Ride safe buddy and take care and God bless.
Hey gary i appreciate the comment and i definitely agree i need to get some gloves its always on the back of my mind, but i get cocky thinking i got good control but ive been trying tricks and stuff nowadays and yes its time to gear up 🤣 but i promise im wearing a helmet when i do my street rides thats how i have my camera mounted usually when im out front of my house doing slow stuff i get lazy and dont put on my helmet. Gloves are coming and more content aswell thanks again 🙏
Good vid bruh Fina turn my Chinese gas pit bike to electric since the motor blown on it. u got my sub 💯
Hell yeah man i appreciate that. For sure my guy youll love riding around stealthy af 🤣
@@EmxBrandon 😂💪🏾💯
Awesome man. Thx for the breakdown.
No problem glad you liked it thanks for watchin 🤘
Idk what’s bigger the 72v 5000w or the 48v 3000w
Im not sure what you mean but 72v 5000w is faster and more powerful. But the stock 48v battery with the electro&co kit is pretty fun too 😄
Thanks for making this video. Very detailed and straightforward. Putting the controller on my bike, I noticed the wires coming off the battery that plug into the black red plug now bypass the fuse. Did you do anything about that?
No problem! Glad the video helped 😁 youll no longer need that fuse anymore, your controller will take care of all the safety stuff now. If you were to leave the fuse on it, it would pop as soon as you pinned the throttle.
Hey Brandon, after talking with you and others I have decided to get the b1 bombmoto battery because of the bigger capacity and the e&c little bit trumoto controller kit. Does this sound like a decent option and I will be keeping the stock motor
Is this for a mototec or bombmoto? If your talking about the stock mototec motor i dont think e&c will send the little bit controller tuned for that motor. The description says they only support the my1020+, ec4p, and etm v2 motors.
@EmxBrandon it's for the mototec bike. Dang it just read that. I need a plug and play kit with minimal tuning, for my son. The battery for sure I want because of the size. What will work with the stock motor, or is it worth it to buy a new one.
@terryfrome1641 honestly i think the best plug and play kit would be the flipsky kit from e-force. They will help you through the process 100% and youll both be off riding with a smile ear to ear. And the b1 battery will be perfect with it too. If you want to spend the money on an etm kit, even though you hsve to swap in the etm motor, its also a very simple plug and play kit and wont require any tuning.
@@EmxBrandon let me see what the flpsky is. Thanks man
@terryfrome1641 sorry i meant to put a link
Eforcemotorsandcontrollers.co
I’m new to this game and just started following you. With this kit do you have to do some programming? Or is it plug and play? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
Thanks
Rob
Nope no programming at all! Straight plug and play! You will have to swap over to the new motor though now.
Hey Emx Brandon thanks for posting this video. Do you know if the MY1020 72v 3000W motor is going to fit the 1300 version of this bike.
There is one guy in the group thar mounted his under the swing arm. But thats the obly way youll get away with it. The motor is just too long to fit in the swing arm. Plus the mounting holes are completely different
Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it. Have one more question and then I will stop asking stupid stuff. What’s a good drop peg kit? I need some more leg room.
Thanks
Rob
Haha ask away! Unfortunately I don't know of any good drop pegs for the mototec. They do have drop pegs on amazon but I wouldn't recommend standing and putting alot of weight on them. Or fabricate a bar inbetween them so they are strong
Do you just need to change the controller or do you need to change the motor and the controller?
If you get the current etm kit you need to replace the motor that comes with the kit also
Hey Buddy it’s Rob again with another question. You had a video on this kit and you wired in the key so it can’t be stolen. How did you do that?
The on off witch has 2 wires, the stock key switch also has 2 wires. You just need to hook up the 2 wires from the key switch to the 2 wires going to the on off switch. Doesn't matter which wire goes to which!
One more question Brandon and I won’t bother you with my stupid questions. What connectors did you use to connect the wires?
Nah ask away anytime! In this video the kit comes pre wired. But when I wire my own stuff I use those same waterproof connectors. Here's a link for a kit with the crimpers!
amzn.to/3VExzen
Hey buddy, awesome video thank you was just wondering when you did the ESC battery and motor upgrade did you have to upgrade the chain and tensioner?
I actually never had a problem with the chain or tensioner. I actually still use the stock tensioner for the qs165 swap and 420 chain!
I bought my bike 2 weeks ago . And yesterday didn’t want to work .my kid is sad.I don’t know what to do.
Open up the cover and double check everything it plugged in nice and tight. Make sure your charger is working. Email mototec aswell, they are very good about warranty stuff!
can u get a 60v lithium battery and keep the controller + motor stock?
Most likely not. Maybe 52v
Stock motor with a 72v controller will work though up to 5kw
You know the serial number for the motor and controller ?
I do not, what do you keed the serial number for? It's just a stock mototec motor and a em50 controller sold and tuned from electro&co
How do you change the throttle
Youll need to buy a set of connectors and a crimping tool and learn how to use them. The throttle is simple you have 5v (red) and signal (usually green) and a ground (black) the signal wire on the stock controller is gray I think.
The stock throttle also has 2 wires for the button that works the kill switch like the brake sensors, and 1 other wire that powers the green battery bar. You'll need to get a seperate bar mounted volt meter and hook that up to the indicator plug, black to black and from the volt meter red to the other color on the indicator plug.
Been following you, finally put in the Emt kit. Ran great for about 5mins now the fuse keeps blowing. Do you know what the current rating is on the fuse you used? It blows on setting #3
You dont need the fuse anymore! The controller pull around 50 60 amps and that fuse wont last a full throttle pull. The controller takes care of all the safety stuff now!
🙏🏽 thanks
Can u drop the links to where u got this stuff
Like the link in the description?!
Hi, I have the 60v and was wondering how fast would it go and would it still work
60v uses a gear reduction motor that spins In the opposite direction, the etm kit won't work with it due to needing to replace the motor with the one supplied in the kit
@@EmxBrandon ok thanks do you know any upgrades for the 60v besides like a battery cause I can’t find anythubg
@JaxxFN22 slapping in a fardriver 72300 would be your best bet!
Dose it have a speed limiter and if so how do I cut it
The etm kit has a 3 speed switch to change modes, the stock vike has a speed and response knob. Its not a surron it doesnt have a wire you can cut
@@EmxBrandondoes the speed and response knob still work? I want a controller kit that will smooth out the throttle. The stock bike is very jerky. But I still want it to go slow for kids.
Any ideas how slow the speed 1 setting is?
@elmateo487 negative the knobs won't work. Speed 1 is about as fast as the stock bike at full speed. But the throttle response is great!
How tall are you and how much do you weigh wondering cause wanting to get this bike
5'9 and around 200 fully geared ready to ride. Check out my more recent videos of the bombmoto b1! Alot better bike!
What the range on it?
Not much, maybe 8 miles with the stock battery
Hey Brandon, do you know if the EC kit will fit on the Mototec 1000w 36v version? Thanks for the great vids keep them coming!
Yes i believe so i would definitely email them but they sell their own version of the mototec in both the 36v and 48v chassis only thing im not sure of is if the controller will run with the 36v battery. So chances are youll have to buy the kit with their 48v battery. If thats the case get ready for a crazy power upgrade, youll almost double your top speed 🤘
And thanks my friend i appreciate that 🙏
That's sick as fuck dude!
Hi bro quick question what is that front sprocket on that standard motor called please
Double d bore. But there are none you can just buy yo change tooth count. Unfortunately they need to be custom made as the bore size is a little bigger than normal.
@@EmxBrandon thanks for the reply bro
@epowermaintenance5333 no problem, whats the goal your trying to achieve?
HELP we just got the same setup and no matter what gear it’s in the bike stalls and needs to be put on the charger every time we go full throttle…. Anybody have any idea why this is or have had similar/same issues? We cleaned all the connections and still same problem
Stock battery?
Hey buddy my son has mototec we purchased a etm kit and a 72volt battery, we hooked up and no power coming out of the etm?
Did you make sure to attach the small red wire with the ring terminal to the battery positive? Its gotta be screwed down with the b+ wire to turn the controller on.
@@EmxBrandon what is the b + wire?
@geraldtucker7957 battery positive, the thick red wire next the the thick black wire that goes to the battery from thr controller. They are screwed down. You need to unscrew the red wire from the controller (unplug battery first!) Then attach the thing red wire with the thick red wire and screw them back down
What does that due reset something?
@geraldtucker7957 it turns the controller on. That small red wire sends battery voltage to the on/off switch. Once you turn the switch on it connects to the other side of the switch sending signal back to the controller turning it on. Without it you cant do anything.
What kit is it exactly? I can't seem to find it with the link!
Also what is top speed and battery life?
Thanks. Keep it up!
When i click the link its the 3rd option down but it says mototec / funbikes to etm kit hope that helps
And top speed with me being 175 pounds is 30 with stock sprocket but you can get a bigger front sproket and increase mph but it will lower torque aswell and the battery life is going to depend on how you ride. I just chop the throttle doing wheelies so it lasts me a good hour and a half. If your riding full throttle with the new controller you might only get 45 min out of it so i would recommend buying the optional 20ah battery with the kit
I edited the link to take you directly to the kit just incase
Thanks for the support 🤘
Cool thanks for the help
The kit includes a motor. You didnt need it to hit 3000w? You hit it on stock motor?
Nah stock motor handles 72v 5000w too. They started selling it with the motor for compatibility issues. There was too many variations of stock motors and people were constantly sending their kits back to get re-tuned. So kit comes with the motor, issue solved. The new motor has some thicker phase wires and will help keep down heat a bit.
@@EmxBrandonis this the Votol controller? I want to reprogram it.
@DescartesRenegade it is but i believe they disable to communication port. Many have tried and no one has been successful yet.
@@EmxBrandon good to know. Would've wasted hours on it, lol. Thanks.
@DescartesRenegade yeah they either de-solder the port, or whoever tried connecting had a different generation harness? Not too sure. Ive never messed with votol, they look like a pain in the ass just to connect too lol.
am i able to keep it keyed instead of the button
Youll just have to cut the on/off switch wires and splice them to the key switch 🤙otherwise nah it just comes with the on off switch
@@EmxBrandon is the stock bike keyed, what if i just don’t install the on off switch
@Seanpatt1378 the stock bike is keyes yes. The etm kit replaces all the wiring in the bike including the key switch. The kit is wired with a on/off switch. If you dont plug the switch in you have no way to turn it on. The key switch keeds to be wired in place of the on/off switch. Its as easy as cutting the connector off the on/off switch and soldering the key switch in.
I cant find the etm3000w controller
Its just the etm kit, there is no 3000w in the name. It works with 48v to 72v
@@EmxBrandon ok thx
Hola buenas quiero saber qué es lo que le has hecho ya que tengo la misma moto de 48v motor 1300w
Oh man i have a ton of content on the mototec, ive done just about everything. plastic swaps, subframe extension, swing arm extension, qs165 swap, forks, couple different light kits, soo much! The etm kit was just the intro into electric pitbikes!
Does the new controller plug in to all the stock wires and does this make a massive difference on speed
The new controller comes with everything you see a minute into the video. The kit replaces all the stock wires except the motor wires and the stock charge port which the stock battery stays plugged into. Its very easy and straightforward and definitely makes a massive difference. It went from doing 20 with me being 175 pounds and 5'9 to doing over 35mph with a huge torque boost aswell. The kit made it a completely different animal. I added the 72v battery later in and now it does about 45mph and does crazy fast wheelies for what it is 🤙the controller that comes in the kit is for 48v to 72v batteries so nothing needs to be done with the controller other than swapping battery wires to go 72v just plug the new battery in and go 😁 check out the link in the description
@@EmxBrandon thanks for responding
@@lolloll4441 no prob anytime 🤙
What's the alternative to this kit? I'm on a budget but I'm not going to get the cheapest thing.
Check out my fardriver kit video, you can get a fardriver 72300 for around 160-180 shipped, some wiring stuff like connectors for around 40 and reuse the stock battery, motor, throttle, all that stuff and have a kit that will compare and honestly beat the etm kit! I do a step by step how to on it!
@@EmxBrandonhi brandon i am planning on getting a mxr1300 and swapping the motor out with the mxr1500 motor i am planning on putting then 72300 fardriver new throttle 72v battery etc just wondering what is the most the motor could pull without it overheating or having long term issues 🙂 i am looking to get 50mph maybe even more any help is appreciated 🙂
60-70 amps is really as far as you wanna push it on 72v! Right around 5kw. Especially if your gonna be doing top speed runs all the time.
@@EmxBrandon okay thanks a lot so exited for it lol did you end up making a video on how to wire the fardriver up?
Would you give an estimate of how large of a better y I could put inside? Might want to get a larger one for more range
The only problem with going bigger is relocating the controller and the tabs for the side cover get in the way for anything bigger going in you would have to get one custom made i have a new vid coming i put crf50 plastics on moved the controller under the gas tank and have a 72v battery coming which is bigger stay tuned ill explain everything
@@EmxBrandon okay
What size brakes do I need my hydraulics are shot and want to switch to cable brakes
On your mototec? Any mtb cable brakes will work youll just have to use the stock brackets from the hydro brakes 👌
@@EmxBrandon do u have any links to brakes that u recommend? I’m very new to this and don’t know what I’m doing 😂
@@Noah-xf9io this is for the mototec correct? And do you want to keep the brake switch or no? Check out lonestarelectrek.com they have zoom hydro brakes any of them will work. But i recommend the 4 piston hydros they work great and they sell them with or without the brake switch. I use the brake switch for my brake lights but on a stock bike i usually unplug them since all it does it cut power to the motor, and that messes with my wheelies 😆
@@EmxBrandon yeah I just bought a used mototec for cheap but I kind of just want cable brakes thanks I appreciate it a lot
@@Noah-xf9io nice! Cable brakes arent bad for the stock mototec but once you start going faster than 35 youll definitely wanna invest in some decent hydros like the ones in the link 👌 after i did the qs swap on mine i upgraded to a dirtbike front brake and rotor and it helped so much since im hitting 55+ now. The stock hydros weren't cutting it anymore
Hey I was wondering if I leave everything stock but the controller and the throttle will it still go 35 or will I need a new battery or motor
Yup! You can leave everything stock and still get 35 40 with a fardriver or upgraded controller!
@@EmxBrandon ok thanks
What’s the top speed for you?
Youll see around 40 at 48v and 50 at 72v
Hey Brandon will the stock 48v battery be ok with the kit? Because i just got my kit yesterday mines came with a 72v motor i switched it out from the 48v motor. So will the battery be ok with that motor?.
Yup! Theres really not a big difference in the new motor other than the phase wires. They send it out with the kit for compatibility reasons. But it does handle heat a bit better once you do go 72v
I jus rode it about an hour ago. It completely died on me within 5min of me driving it. I had to walk it home. Once I connected the charger it went back to saying 53.9V on the volt meter. That was weird. Do you know what might have happened with that situation.
Just double check all your connections are good. Otherwise im not too sure what it could be.
@darylbrown8821 actually did you use the stock fuse? Or did you get rid of that length of wire and plug the battery straight into the controller?
Stock fuse ? Which wire was that?
Hey Brandon nice vid! I have a question do you know how hot the motor can get in the summer?
Depending on if you stay 48v or go 72v. But with the 72v battery it gets too hot to touch after about 45min of hard riding. With the 48v it still gets just as hot but its takes a little longer to get there. Its still running strong though i beat the heck out of that motor and havent had to use my spare yet 😂 and probably wont as soon as my qs165 kit comes in, time for a motor swap and swing arm extension 🤙
Hey yea I just bought one myself and I’m waiting for it! I love your vids they are super helpful 🤙
Also do you know how long you can ride for on a stock 48v battery 🔋 thx 🤙
@@slashhawk1561 thanks my friend im glad they are helpfull 😁 and with the stick battery if i was just messing around out front practicing wheelies and stoppies i could make it last for hours on and off. But if you go out pinning it everywhere full blast probably 35ish minutes
Thx that helps a lot! Have fun doing your sick wheelies 🤘🤙
Does the stock battery have a BMS?
Id imagine so but cant confirm. I do know it will push 60 amps no problem though and has been for over a year.
@@EmxBrandon Just a saftey concern. It it a smart charger?
Definitely not a smart charger, just a basic 48v 2 amp charger. Dont know of a single mototec battery to catch fire. They seem to be very reliable.
@@EmxBrandon Thank you. Good to know.
Does this help the amount of miles you can go on it ?
Oh no it drastically decreases your range lol. You keed a high amp hour battery to make up for the extra power if you wanna go far
@@EmxBrandon ok so like another 48v with higher amp hour?
@Garrett Hawes correct! Something like 6x8x7 from amorge! If you dont have the amorge info check out the mototec Electric Pitbikes group on facebook and the post is pinned at the top. Alone with a ton of helpful info and people
@@EmxBrandon how many miles does it go with the EMP upgrade controller do you think ?
@Garrett Hawes its hard to say miles. Its all about how you ride. With the stock battery if your full throttle the whole time it will only last 15 minutes. If your just messing around doing wheelies and slow stuff it will last an hour or 2.
I have the mxr1500 when I click the link what options do I need to select for my model of bike? Help would be great and is it correct that it’ll be around 1500$?
Hey im assuming since you have an mxr you dont live in the US. If thats so then you wont be able to get a battery shipped to you over seas but you can still buy the controller kit for 500 just select none on battery and none on graphics unless you want the sticker kit. And then select which motor you have which is on the sticker placed on the motor. The kit without the battery is 500. Youll have to source a good battery in your area but the kit works great with the stock battery aswell, just shortens the run time. Hope that helps 🤙
@@EmxBrandon thank you so much man so hard to find information on upgrading these in Scotland, great work on the UA-cam videos aswell I’ll be tuned in for future uploads and look forward to see what your next upgrades are
What’s the top speed with the upgraded controller and standard battery buddy?
@@lewissmith1980 thanks man that means alot 🙏 and i got up to around 35mph with the stock battery and electro&co controller kit 👌 i weigh around 175 pounds it was a hugeee upgrade. I kept the stock battery for a few months until i got a 72v battery now it does over 40mph 🤘
Was this the stock battery or the 48v one with the Electro upgrade kit?
This was with the stock battery
@@EmxBrandon do you have a recommendation for a 48v battery? Most seem like they’re built tall and thin and wouldn’t be great in these bikes.
@mct8888 you really wanna go with a custom built battery good for atleast 80 amp discharge. You can purchase one in the states but they cost alot of money. For instance electro&co has a few options for around 900 bucks. I personally will be using allen from amorge on alibaba. You can email him directly with dimensions and specs and he will ship straight to you for cheaper than anyone in the states can. allen@amorge.com
@@EmxBrandon thanks so much, your content is awesome and love your bravery to try this stuff!
Its been hell of a learning experience! The end results are so much fun! Thanks for watching i appreciate that alot 🙏
Fuck ya bro!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thoughts on this vs Bombmoto chassis with controller?
The b1 chassis is like an actual 110 pitbike vs the mototec. And I'm running my b1 motor at double the power the mototec motor can take with a flipsky 75200 and a 72v 36ah from amorge. It would take alot of chopping and welding to fit a battery that big in the mototec.
@@EmxBrandon Thanks! Is that combo of battery and controller your favorite so far?
@xav_1029 definitely my favorite! It's a little much for the stock b1 motor so I had to turn it down and keep it tamed but it's a great combo for a solid 10kw bike
What kit did you put on it to make it 25mph?
25? I put the electro&co etm kit in it to do 37 stock it does 25 with a small kid on it 20 with me
Do you happen to have the setup/tune for that em50 controler?
Nah unfortunately i dont
@@EmxBrandon ah have you plugged it up to a computer yet to tune the bike for the 72v? Would be an awesome video to see more of the technical side of the build. I know many have the EM50 controler and all the videos on UA-cam are in a forign language lol
@@FishingPhoFun nah i havent its pretuned from electro&co and if i tried to push this motor any more it would burn up for sure. One of these days id like to get a seperate one and play with the tuning but right now im pretty clueless when it comes to tuning controllers
@@EmxBrandon ah I'm tempted to buy the VOTOL EM50 controler and some tuning on it. It's identical to the electro and co ETM kit you have just re branded and their tune. If yiu do connect into the controler would love to see what the ETM settings are.
@@FishingPhoFun definitely i believe theres some software ill need and a cable to hook up to a computer but id love to duplicate the setting and try to push some more power out of the motor and see how much i can push before it blows
“$500” pretty cheap lol
Listen alright 🤣 i was new and it was my first 🤣🤣 now im full diy kits with a bunch of wiring tutorials and soon moving to a vesc based controller! I know what cheap, powerful, and reliable is now!
@EmxBrandon if I get the mototec is it worth having for my first ebike never drove one before
It's a great start!
@@EmxBrandon ok so u think for 5oo more get the e vader or nah
@@EmxBrandon how's the seat thanks for the reply too
How long did it take to get the kit?
It shipped out quick maybe 4 days and it was at my house but with the bullshit covid situation you never know if it could get delayed
How long is the runtime I’m curious if your running at full power?
Full throttle rips with the etm kit and stock 48v battery youll be lucky to get 20-30 min. If you keep the stock battery just do slow stuff like wheelies and pit tricks and it will last for a good couple of hours!
@@EmxBrandon if you’re at a dirt track for say how long would it last there do you think
and also how long would it run with the optional 48v 20ah battery from electro in co?
Im my opinion a track day is hard riding and the stock battery would probably only last a couple hard laps. With the 20ah battery with higher output cells youll get a good session in but definitely not a full day of track riding
@@EmxBrandon would you recommend a 72v included battery with the 3k watt pack?
Thx for the vid but e&c is so ridiculously overpriced I don’t know why anyone would support price-gougers
You pay for the knowledge & plug and play aspect of it! Not saying their price's aren't crazy but it's just like anything in this world. You can replace the alternator in your car yourself for a hundred bucks or pay a shop with special skills to do it for $1000!
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Is there a VIN number on this?
No unfortunately not, its a kids dirtbike meant for offroad use only. It does have a serial number on the headtube though.