+Darth Vader every other game i have to report some kid because of inappropiate behaviour its really annoying and happens very often compared to aoe3 which is my 2nd main game
+Darth Vader Too many really bad players, and it may not even be the players skills, it just that they lack any sense of team work and just want kills.
DCFanatic7 exactly my opinion but without teamspeak its really hard to play well as a team yesterday my mate was being attacked and another team partner ignored him well knwing he couldve saved him made both of us sooo mad :D
#'s 1 - 10 in order of appearance for those who don't have time for the video: Cassiopeia Bard Twisted Fate Thresh Vayne Riven Draven Azir Yasuo Lee Sin
This list is very faulty ngl, I went 10/3/3 on my first Lee Sin game or something like that, I got hyper fed my second vayne game and I think they’re more hard champs like nidalee, evelynn, rengar, kha zix just for the jungle
yasuo is easy to beat buthe gets punished alot honestly if he misses a tornado hes fucked if he missed a Q he's fucked he got rooted/stunned hes FUCKED yeah pretty much u cant mess up anything or you die and His E is the only thing that can save him
Fact: the other 1 percent is stuck up tools. Just sayin, you guys really like to rub it in that you're ranked higher. Because apparently its that big of an accomplishment that you need to harp on about it like people are supposed to care. Again, just sayin
Jeremy Garner Nah, just had to point it out considering how laughable the comments are, critizicing the list by sayng a champion is easy to master when they aren't even competent with the easiest champions.
Jeremy Garner he's saying that because most of the dislikes are people saying so and so take no skill cause only a faceroll champ that requires no skill can beat my ap draven carry mechanics
The comments show again how toxic and idiotic the community is. "I got stomped by a champion -> it needs no skill." ...Not even the attempt to understand why the opponent won in the first place, not the attempt to understand what it needs to play a champ effectively. I wonder what other characters these dimwits consider more demanding. The difference between a good Lee Sin / Riven and a bad one is immediatly obvious. One cannot say the same about Garen or Warwick.
+Taxtro from this list i can imagine that azir, thresh and bard the others not so much. lee sin, riven and yasuo take not that much skil play. i think the most can agree on that
Nick Siebers Well that's simply wrong. You can immediately distinguish a good Lee / Riven / Yasuo from a bad one. Any small mistake with these characters gets punished harshly. You have to be really fast and possess great game knowledge to make an impact. Sure, you can be basic Lee Sin and just protect your carries with E and R, but to really use his potential, you have to be really quick with the ward jumps and on point with the ult alignment. Yasuo is a melee carry with no escapes whatsoever. When you find him out of position, he's dead. That's partly why his winrate is so atrocious. You have to micro manage your dashes and Q stacks in a fight while evading and going for the right targets. Additionally, if you want to be able to block everything, you can block with his W, you have to know the casting animation of every projectile skill - and they are often very similar to the ones of autoattacks. Lastly Riven... she is the character in this game, you can probably spend most time on. People practice her in bot games, people come up with new combos and tricks. Sure she can be frustrating to play against due to her CC and shields, but when a Riven stomps your team, she has earned it. A single rooting ability can thoroughly ruin her teamfight, as it does not only stop her from moving, but also denies her Q knockup, damage, and her shield.
yup and then when you say: can you shut your mouth mister eZ ass Rager now sit down and play. you get banned for "Toxity" while the one you was talking about wishes that someone's family dies of all deseases in the world. 2days later on LoLking i can see him play still and im banned Gg
+Taxtro 1 thing, your comment make totally sense. and i found it funny how every comment that say ... isnt that hard to play cause ... have atleast 20 likes cause the most think same but the most are bronze and silver in league so i think the most dont see the potencial of something or know how hard something is they just see the riven/lee/yasuo that are once feeded and rek the whole enemy team.
Kuudere Shiina That's mostly just a thing Cardboard 7 kata mains say, there aren't many champs that are even that hard to master, letalone if they are easy to use to begin with.
Riven #1. I mean, since I've started to learn her combos and practicing her animation canceling (including fast combo and other boxbox techniques) I've felt like m2k, being able to see frame by frame and shit.
Kuudere Shiina Riven takes the trophy. It's really easy to learn her useful combos. Then the mains start inventing stuff that you'll NEVER USE, and it's hard to pull off right, just to say she is really hard.
Kuudere Shiina Tbh most of the champions on this list fall into that category, other than maybe azir and cassiopia. Throw in a master yi and you're set.
Easy way to count bronze players: Look at the comments on "omg riven is so easy to master what r u talkin about". Add those + their likes and BOOM. That's how many bronzes are here.
+Space Marketeer Kelly uhm lets see if she has 1000 ap which is waaaay more than you will get you deal about 1650 damage with your ult not counting mr... that wont kill anyone
"Riven can get punished and locked down by cc so easy." How?! She has 4 dashes and a shield. Please explain to me how riven is more likely to get locked down by cc when no other (melee) toplaner has this amount of defensive options. Same with vayne and her "terrible kiting kit" really? invisibility, knockback and a dash. Compare this to draven or graves.
Sander Let's not forget how he said that tf has a low damage kit, like seriously? Yeah he's weak early, but mid to late game he's REALLY strong, and if you have good map awareness, you can pull off some very devastating ganks!
Sander that's the point, she has 4 dashes (let's be honest, that are fairly low range), you can't mess up even ONE dash or you die instantly. How many gave I've had when I was learning how to properly play riven, where I was like 15/2 or something, I enter a teamfight, and a leona just dash stun me and ult me and I instantly die cuz I used my spells at the wrong time. I feel the reason why riven is #5 is because she requires a lot of decision making (like twisted fate or cassio for example) but also insanely good mechanics (all the animation cancels, combo management and stuff) I think riven is really underrated mechanically speaking, people think riven is "easy to play and shit on people" but just try a game when you don't counter pick your lane, you might cry (cry a lot if it's a renekton/malphite/garen or something)
wipoulou "you can't mess up even ONE dash or you die instantly" This is true for pretty much any other melee champion. Even more true since most of them can't get out after they engage, while Riven will have at the very least 2 dashes left. That is also why any other champion than Riven will need to pick up some defensive items. Riven doesn't instantly die because of her kit but because she lacks the Randuin's that any other champion in your situation is required to have or they'd be dead even faster. In other words Riven is only "instantly dead" because she is the only champion that can reliably survive while building no defensive stats.
Sander She can't reliabily survive its just defensive stats are kind of wasted on her it would be like building tank yasuo or zed she is supposed to have the ability to all in but you can punish her heavily for it easily same as vayne has high Damage due to her W but low hp so she can be crushed easy if you use CC against her it juat maaters about your skill as a player if you can actually hit them with CC then that is a great starting point.
wipoulou AHAHAHAA i was vs'ing a riven and my adc was like 10/1/5 as vayne with bt but didnt have the shield on yet when we wnet top for the "free gold from a 0/8/1 Riven" and then the Riven entered a bush running away from us and as soon as i ward, we saw an ulted riven, she stunned us and which ment i couldn't flay her 3rd q as thresh and she 1 combo killed the vayne with like 58 cs at 25 mins.... I have to admit being able to kill a well farmed and fed adc with her support and without even doing the boxbox animation cancel on aa or attacking between abilities for the use of the passive is pretty skilled ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
League GRINDER 57 both zed and yasuo sre hard :) zed is hard on macro and must think about everything he will do, yasuo is more micro hard :) plat+ he is hard to play cudz people here know how to play vs him
lol i actually worked with my boy gaming curios on this list, if you guys don't think riven is a hard champ to master then you've never faced a good riven player and actually played against someone like best riven NA or revenge or hey its viper. there's a reason why you call people riven mains, because not a lot of people can actually play riven to her full potential lee sin is like shit in the above average hands, but if you mastered him completely you'll be #1 aka rush
if you learn how to use yasuo's dash with the minion wave to give more poke damage, and get away without being hit, you'll only get better from there on out
+Yuwen Taiji Mechanically, Zed is harder to play, yeah. But meta-wise? Duskblade and Thunderlord's are simply disgusting on him, I think the meta is actually super-friendly to AD assassins right now. Mages are the ones who have it rough
god... there is so much riven shit talking. honestly, in elo lower than gold, riven is a joke. riven players are selfish and thirsty most of the time, and they CAN 1v5 if they get fed, but that is not because of mechanical skill. riven may feel cheap, but any cc locks her down so quickly.
Erak Bryant still gold 3 is low as fuck lol. I play troll champs like poppy support and lissandra jungle in Gold 1 and i roll face. Plat-bronze is the same league except plat players can farm
"The insane amount of mechanics she needs to pull of effectively" Riven does not need to pull these things off imo. Riven is not a stupid champion, she has advanced mechanics one can learn, but she does not need them. Riven has a strong early game, she can just start snowballing and win the game, without needing these mechanics, thats why i do not agree with rivens/some other spots on the list. Cassiopeia for example needs good positioning and micro management to win. Just my opinion, its fine to disagree.
Ayyy lmao its meant for who then exactly? those are HIS Top Hardest Champions to Play and Master in League of Legends, the hardest, not the easiest, its probable meant more for the higher elos then the lower elos, because low elo doesnt gives a fuck about what is hard to play, they want the easy ones, the type that helps you climb easily. PS.: sorry about the bad english tho
I think that the reason that a lot of comments here are disgruntled about some of the choices here is due to more of a misunderstanding than anything. To me, this list makes more sense if it was titled "Top Ten Hardest Champions to MASTER" rather than "to play." Using the phrase "to play" implies a high skill floor, where as "to master" implies a high skill ceiling. Which makes sense. Yi is an example of an incredibly low skill floor and incredibly high skill ceiling champion. A relatively new or inexperienced Yi can still do damages and whatnot, but a Master Yi is incredible to watch. Using the Q to dodge auto attacks and point and click CC, using the heal as an auto attack reset, the melee orbwalking and animation canceling, ect. All the champions on this list have incredibly high skill ceilings, and the ones people are contesting are usually the champions with low skill floors. Jeremy actually spoke about this with Draven. Draven has a medium skill floor, but justified Draven's placement on the list by talking about how incredibly high of a skill ceiling Draven has. Riven is another example of a medium/low skill floor with a high skill ceiling. And then there are champions on this list like Azir who have high skill floors and skill ceilings, which no one really contest. Just my thoughts.
Brad Hicks Yi is not "hard to master", he is just useless. There's nothing a Yi can do to stop your mage's or support's CC from shutting him down. This is because his only "outplay" potential is hitting Q at the right time; if he outplay potential (like Yasuo) he'd be a high skill ceiling champ with low skill floor. And yes, the title is pretty misleading if this is what he was aiming at.
Alfredo z. As a yi main you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. He is insane to master. And I guess just flat out killing them is doing "nothing" about their cc? You also forget about when to use ult to run or fight, when to use meditate as an aa reset, heal, damage mitigation, or all of the above, or when to activate your E in order to get your true damage through the entire fight. So yes. Yi is hard to master, and is a low floor, high ceiling champ
+Ragen Crimson I play azir just fine right now, he can still carry teams and be super deadly late game. If you main azir you should know how to deal with these situations, even if he is nerfed to the ground.
I think there are much more difficult champions (some are pretty much unplayable) than some listed here: - Singed: I find that chasing Singed is only a bad idea if you're literally chasing him across the map, since his poison damage is negligible on short pursuits with just a little bit of MR. His early game is also weak, can't do much damage and is really squishy, so your build path will leave him with one of the two downsides for most of the match. The only viable strategy is Proxy Singed, which is extremely difficult, and will probably require most of your team to be early-game specialist champs. - Rumble: He requires a certain part of his heat gauge to be full in order for his damage to be effective, which is difficult to do considering he is melee, must be in combat frequently and has no innate sustain. Ranged champions will seriously screw him over unless he goes ham early, preferably with a jungler to aid him. These are just to name a few. It might just be that I'm shite with them but some champs mentioned in this video are piss-easy in comparison.
Echo Sierra What rating are you? Singed.... difficult...... There is a reason why singed hasn't seen lcs in like 3 years. His mechanics are to simple that he has such a limited about of things he can do is a situation is easy to know and be prepared for them all.
Echo Sierra The list is about which champions are hardest to play at their highest possible level, not which ones are hardest to play and win with. Singed has very little mechanics outside of his e into w combo, so it's generally very easy to play singed at the highest level the champion can provide (outside of some abstract farming/pressure strategies, but those aren't mechanical).
Isaiahbolt6 Jeremy put Lee Sin at number one because of his low power than ever. Sure, he has some mechanics that are difficult to pull off, but I find that Lee is really weak unless he gains a good advantage. The same goes for Singed.
Echo Sierra I mostly agree with your comment about Rumble. His heat can be pretty hard to manage sometimes, and if you overheat at the absolute worst time, all you'll have is decent on-hit damage that's very easy to kite out and ignore without your other skills and slows. However, he doesn't have a huge amount of outplay potential and he just might not be absolutely useless when played without skill. I think he deserves a spot next to Twisted Fate or Cassiopeia, because he lacks hard outplay potential, though he does more damage more easily than TF.
Ryo Bakura The thing is that Elise is just straight up bad.. so yeah it is hard to do good with her, but the use of her kit is not really hard to understand
Ryo Bakura i main elise, and globox, no she isnt bad , shes reeeaaaallllyyy strong (i know you arent supposed to but i main ap elise) and full build your human q does 30% hp, same with spider (but its 30% lost health) you and your spiders hurt like hell, (around 200 extra magic dmg per hit from you, and 250 from spiders after mr reduction) volatile spider does around 800-1000, she 1 shots any adc late game and if a stun is landed then qw switch to spider, your bite and spiders along with w will let you destroy tanks (attk speed plus teh magic bonus is op) so shes damn strong sorry for the giant essay
globoxnorris i am silver , but i play well (it is legit my teams that make me silver lol) elise is my ap jg main, but hecarim is better imo if you need a jg and you have 2 aps 2 ads on your team, just his late game is better, sure elise is better for tanking tower but still
Liam Donker finally a comment i agree with :D of all the champions with a really high skillcap that isnt on this list Zed should be. a true master of zed can outplay an entire team
S3PT1M1 well, shaco isn't here either. imho shaco deserves that #1 more than lee sin if we follow his thought process of having to be creative and not knowing what to do
z I wouldn't say shaco has the same skill cap as most of these champs in terms of mechanical difficulty. however in terms of desision making and map awareness a truely great shaco player needs to be a strategic god. ive seen high elo shaco's and what they do isn't as flashy or as complicated, but the level of awareness needed to be the demon jester he's suposed to be is pretty amazing
Liam Donker Zed has free wave clear, very good at that. He has a minion execute so he can farm easily, oh and he can also farm from range so you can't shut him down! He has a "oh crap I messed up" button on his R so he is easily the safest Assassin in the game.
IMO hardest champions that I can think of (not in any order) Draven - high APM from catching axes + deciding whether to catch axes or not Vayne - weak early/mid game, extremely squishy, amazing kiting potential that demands good reflexes and mechanics Lee Sin - easy to pick up, hard to master. Fast ward hopping, Q prediction, flash + ult combos Bard - decision making + prediction with R Shaco - super snowbally but extremely risky since he becomes useless if he doesn't get fed early game. Requires excellent map awareness and anticipation of enemy map position to counter jungle and gank Yasuo - Amazing outplay potential from W E and great DPS from Q R but requires strong mechanics TF - Picking the right card with Pick a Card isn't hard. Hard is having the reflexes to pick the card you want if it's the first to appear with W. And even harder than that is positioning, positioning, positioning since you need to be alive to keep chucking cards at everyone after WQ two-shotting the carries. EDIT: The above champs are listed not only because of mechanics but also the level of decision-making expected of the player due to the flexibility of their kits to be useful in so many situations. That's why I didn't put Riven on this list, even though playing her demands some finesse in spacing QWE and weaving in autos. Compared to the above champions, she has a rather linear playstyle and making a mistake with her is far more forgiving since she has self peel from her ridiculous mobility and low CD.
I Main tf and for me the hardest thing about him (without counting the posicioning) is picking the right card at the right moment in risky situations, If you misspick a card you're completely vulnerable to the enemy team.
Patrick Lee IMO Vel'Koz is pretty high up there too - You need very good positioning in team fights, are very immobile and can get easily punished when you miss your E. Also you rely solely on Skillshots that mostly fly pretty slow too
i came here for this. shaco is at least as hard as lee, considering his squishy aspect, i ll easily give him number one in this list. number of people who master or main shaco ( correctly ) is 1/10 of those who play lee correctly.
ok1000ok1000 this video was so BAD lee sin number 1? hes so easy where's akali? Draven isn't the easiest but so hard?! vladimir isn't easy either but none were on this list.
Merijn Dekeyser He is always talking about punishing people and those things which are aplied to most assassins champions or squishy ones at least lately this channel is full of bs
Merijn Dekeyser he probably shouldve named it mechanically hard champions, also vlad is one of the easiest Champs in the game, his only skillshot is his ult and he's manaless lol.
TheTf2bros yeah real hard, The hard part of riven is the keyboard you need, because not any keyboard can support the keyboard obliteration while playing that champ EQWQWEQEWQEWQEWQEQEWQAEWQAEWQWEQEWERWQAEWQEWQEW3QEQEQEQ look mom im main riven -And the medics said you wasnt able to use your hands !!!
Dragonmist19X To properly Q cancel with Riven is why she is one of the hardest to master. Top 3 in the game to master.. to this date there is like 2% of the community that does the Q cancelling properly
Lunasllenas Best LoL Gags you guys are both wrong and salty riven its rly easy to perform at average level but to be god is hard yeah you can pick riven smashing buttons and succsede but there is time when thats not going to be enough
lee sin is for me the most difficult champ in lol, riven is easy to play, but hard to master, i think they can keep their position in this top (my opinion)
NeonIceCream X IMO She’s the easier, point-and-click version of Zed and even that doesn’t sum up how much easier she is than Zed. Whereas Yasuo...there’s a reason why Yasuos are often toxic or feeders. The room for error for Yasuo is nill and a virtually no cooldown dash is not enough to counter that on its own.
Engineer 314 lmfaoo, zed is easier than leblanc, literally the only thing easier about leblanc is most the matchups mid land where leblanc level 2 cheeses most mid laners but that's really it. Unless you're gold or lower I guess
@@ThaHangman yes ofc ua-cam.com/video/o8vGaC4OZIs/v-deo.html this is JSUT SOOO EASY literally the play that showed the world THE ULTIMATE SKILL on lb? nope ON ZED
Lissandra Freljord agree. Both hard champs to master. When I started playing both Gangplank and ryze I have no what I'm doing. And now my ryze is lv5 mastery
In Ryze.. He's kinda hard. He has low mobility, so pretty easy to gank. And If you can't do combos in 1v1 you're doomed. But he has outplay so i'd give him a 7.5/10 difficulty
Ik it was just insanes. Vayne was moving and so was the minion wave, he had to predict where vayne was going to be after he threw his q as well as which minion would be in his way when he casted it.
10. Rek'Sai 9. Nidalee 8. Twisted Fate 7. Rengar (It's my 2nd favorite champ) 6. Vayne 5. Draven 4. Lee Sin 3. Rumble 2. Gnar (mp!y main and favorite champion) 1. Riven Those are my difficult champions (even I got 2 of my 5 favorite champions there where difficult to me)
@@nzw7557 actually, he's not. His hit is one of the hardest o master, not to mention that if you waste one of your skills at the wrong time, ur screwed.
Ok please. Firstly, you should not even mention Riven. Secondly, there are some champions who are a lot harder to play. A good shaco, zed, nidalee, kalista (maybe,) orianna, syndra (maybe.) I also consider nami a little tricky cuz of her Q and maybe some other hard to pull skillshots, but these don't make an entire champion so I didn't mention them. Also playing teemo in high elo is hard cuz everyone counters and fucks you, so it's extremely hard to play teemo competitively without getting rekt. But idk, some people find him "easy" to play, most probably cuz they are lower elo. Oh, jeremy forgot to add kata on the list.
I believe Riven's easy to learn and play at low levels, yet very hard to master and play at high levels. When you try to play her at low levels and you're just learning, she's basically like a Master Yi except probably weaker (before you learn to use her mobility and defense well). But when she's played in higher levels and you've mastered her, she can be like a Zed with (arguably) slightly less outplay potential. I do believe Zed should be somewhere on this list, since he's mostly similar to Riven, with great burst and executes accompanied by a potentially large amount of mobility. Also, just because a champion is hard to play competitively, it doesn't mean they're hard to play. Teemo is hard to play competitively because he has (potentially) a bunch of counterplay, and he doesn't really have a high skill cap. Also, he requires just as much mechanics and knowledge to play as champions like Master Yi and Veigar, who also have a potentially large amount of counterplay. So I think it's mostly just because it's generally hard to play competitively.
Skins Have Skills I'm in plat and although i don't play riven frequently I can tell she is a difficult champion. I play against enough rivens to know that if i'm playing against a good riven then i will have a hard lane. If i'm against a riven who doesn't have much experience as her than my lane can be pretty easy since she won't be able to do those trades where she takes no damage. Only thing easy about riven is if you are playing her in a favorable matchup where you can all in at level 2.
+Berg So many salty low elo people,that have no basic knowledge of the game mechanics. Yes Riven might be fairly easy at extremely low elo (gold-bronze),afterwards i wish you good luck without the animation canceling or for example the fast Q. (which players fail to execute and jump over)
John BOB I think it's because of the ultimate, Zed is pretty hard to play, but in all the list, he's the only one who can press a SINGLE button to get out of all the troubles. All the others champions are like "If you fail, you're dead" kind of champ, If Zed fails, he still can use his R Shadow back, i think that's the reason why he isnt on the list
not after the nerf, you have 1 sec delay before you can press R again. that is enough time for CC him bc you know where he will land the other thing as i said are that he depending on ultimate to kill off other champions. there are champions like kayle, lissandra or zilean that negate zed ultimate. that is not enough you have items like Qss and zhonya too. See so much counterplay for a champion
Katarina is really hard to master, i think she should be on number 1. You need skill do know when you keyboard is gonna break at the exact time. You must have a strong face to hit QWER with. This champion is truly hard to play and i disliked the video cause she isn't number 1 No,i didnt dislike its just for the joke.
riven main here i think yasuo is harder too u have only two damage ablitys and a dash but u cant jsut mindlesly dash around u have a lot outplay potential but i think u need to put more work into yasuo maybe like year even if he doesnt have much combos as riven does
I really don't think Riven should be as high as she is on this list if she should be on this list at all. I used her once when she was free and got a quadra kill. I was laning people at the same rank as me so they weren't 'feeding noobs'. I never picked her up since I don't think anyone deserves to face such a broken champion.
ToshiroHitsuguya143 and what exactly was that lvl? Low gold? below gold? If you were the least a platinum 3 player and you played vs another plat 3 player you woudn't even get close to farm if he has a fuctional brain since you would not know how to trade. Plz I PLAYED X I DID 40KILLS ONE GAME OMG BROKEN are simply Bullcrap.
Colin Brown Thresh is actually pretty easy. Now before you go all "YOU DON'T PLAY HIM YOU WOULDN'T KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH!" I'm a rank 5 mastery Thresh main and my only problem is the people could and should use the lantern but don't cause they think they're Faker which isn't a fault on the champion but your teammates. Other than that I agree
Lee Sin may be hard to fight with but the speed and efficiency of him clearing the jungle, ganking and counter jungle can easily compensate that on lower elo, wouldn't place him on 1.
+albert wesker why his banrate got so high on preseason only?hmm i got it they saw one game with warlords B (that first OP one) and now thinks yasuo is a noob champ...maybe you should listen what he says in the video
+The Jokes On U ya zed is a champ you need like what 10 minutes to realize what he does Kalista rip your spears through the bitches ult your sup into the adc she stuns you q auto auto e
CumsterPlays how do you figure that?if you want to play her good she has difficult mechanics her jumping can screw you up if you dont know what you are doing , your ult relies on your teammate too so you need to pay attention to when they are ready as well,to someone that doesnt know a lot about the game she wont be playable
I AT LEAST expected Orianna...it is so freaking easy to miss damage with your ball movements...she requires a lot of mechanical skill and micromanagement...but no. This guy has freaking riven and bard and yasuo on this list...
+Logan Cobb Have you mastered animation cancelling on riven? It's, among lee sin's insec, one the most difficult mechanical skills out there. Oriana is nothing compared to the skill it takes to animation cancel a riven with 1.7 atack speed. Igree about bard. Yasuo is however, very hard to play at a high level. Up to gold or platinum, yasuo get away with mistakes, with in high diamond only excellents yasuo succed. Same as riven. A Riven that cant animation cancell, cannot play at a high level. The dmg output is too low with out it.
Sean Bush well actually yeah, Ekko is hard to master, i mean when i first played him i would feed at least 7/10 games (Because i sucked and still do) but he is pretty easy to learn.
Yeah, but typically champions that are more mechanically difficult to play or micromanage don't get played because of the heavy criticism you get from the League community if you can't play them well. I understand wanting to win, people, but in a normal game, don't assume because you may be a god at particular champions that everyone else is the same way. Also, If you can't be encouraging to your teammates, please don't say anything at all. They are your teammates for crying out loud. Even if you criticize them, understand that different people take criticism differently. If you want to be really offensive about it, don't do it toward a teammate. That's like asking to lose. Sure, some people are fine with any type of criticism, be for the sake of victory, assume harsh criticism will negatively affect their game play.
katarina actually isnt that easy. sure her basics are simple its the one combo and her dmg is insane but u have to know when to join a fight, u have to look what cc the enemies have left so u wont be interrupted, who u have to kill first and then second after ur reset then third and so on. but thats decisionmaking so her mechanics are quite easy yeah
She's actually really cheap at gold to play for climbing... Play extremely safe pre6 unless you have an egg... After 6 er. Yes. Er not re. Do er but do it fast
+Joy Rene shes kind of middle ground, against champions she is really easy and does a lot more damage than anyone ever expects, but she cant farm for shit. i mean, her auto attacks do like, 45 at the start of the game. thats just horrible
+Joy Rene i agree. she has the lowest health in the game and also one of the lowest movement speed and not really any mobility skills. Allready just placing her wall a little wrong gets u punished insane.
Why do people think Riven is hard, she is overrated. A few custom games to practice the important combos and you're done. And this goes for most champions. But Riven mains cry so much and keep saying that she is balanced because she ir really hard to play, when she really isn't Though I agree with most choices, I fell You're missing Anivia, Gnar and Nid.
I agree with the Anivia, Gnar and Nid should be somewhere in there instead of tf. But I have got to disagree with thinking Riven isnt hard. Sure you can pull off the combos in custom games but in ranked can you srsly do it without a fault in a high pressure situation?
Kevin Yang I play Riven ocasionally. I'm just saying that, her basic stuff is actually pretty easy to pull off, even in ranked, just 30-1hour of practice in a custom, then a few games and you're good to go. The hard part is learning every single combo and trick she has, but really, most of these are actually useless (if you drop a ward behind you during third Q you will hit the Q behind you while moving the other way for example). People focus so much into these tiny tricks and think that Riven is hard because of it, when in fact, I really think Cassio takes a LOT more skill for example, where you need extremely good positioning, know when to ult, know when poison are going to tick off and stuff like that. Riven for me is Easy to pick up, but hard to master completely.
Kevin Yang ... why do riven players always say she is hard to play?? like she do her combo in a teamfight and wallah your enemies are gone good good good
Ok then tell me 1 thing, can *you* even pull off the combo in a team fight with cc being thrown at you when you go in? And the thing is I dont even main riven cause I play adc mostly but if I do play riven it is hard to pull off a combo with the animation cancels because lets say they have a annie on the enemy team so the annie can easily stun you once you go in and wallah your dead.
Kevin Yang There is no combo to save you from annie, there is wait for her stun. There is flanking. Riven will just Flash WQ ult people and if not kill them, drop them to 70% more or less, then annie can stun, if she isn't dead.
You clearly have no idea how difficult it is to properly do the animation cancelling combos and use her at her full potential. And make no mistake, Riven is easy to pick up and understand, but hard to truly be good at her tbh.
RADFoe I don't know dude.... He's so different compared to the other champs that you kinda have to forget how to play your average champion, and learn how to play Azir
If we're talking about learning curve, I'd say yes on Yasuo because it's so easy to overshoot with his E, get the right reaction time for his W, and lookout for other teammates's knockup when you're new to playing him. But skill curve is an entirely different story, though both Azir and Yasuo have high skill ceilings. As for Vayne, she's not easier than Azir in this video. She's 3 places below.
+SassyRiolu because with champions like velkoz success isn't rare His kit is very forgiving and even if he falls behind he can just ult in a team fight and walk away with triple. Velkoz is actually easy to play being a skill shot based champion does not mean its hard champ same goes to xerath
+SuckerKiss After playing around 10-15 games with Yasuo you start to get used to his mechanics but he is hated because of his wind wall (8/10 mid laners are ranged) and his double crit chance which grants him huge damage. Now if he is so hard to play then why is he banned in almost every ranked? Also saying tf has low damage?! My friend mains him (around 50k points on TF) and almost one-shots in mid to late
this may sound weird. but I'm only "good" when I play azir. I find him soooo fun to play. the mechanics were so obvious for me to pick up. but I can't play cho or Darius. pls brain that's not how it works..
i main azir too but man help me a little... i got perma in my dia.and i bought for 5 euros a bronze one but how can carry with azir? items? suggestions?
I only say this because you value the ability to right click/time condemns on vayne higher than you do bard.. not to mention riven's even on the list, animation cancelling and all, riven was 1000x easier to master than Alistar or Janna. But that might be just because you didn't really feature any high tier supports other than thresh which everyone loves...
***** nop, supports are terribly hard too play becouse you have too balance youre gold income ,hit ridiculus knockups like janna and alistar, shield in the right time in the right way(braum) and not too menchine youre kind of shittin' right now, adc vayne is the most ridiculus adc ever ,in teamfights : Click R and auto.... condemn into a wall if not just keep auto-ing :) (basic vayne combo)
So, where the hell are anivia and alistar at? Please don't tell me that yasuo's crazy ult and wind wall and Riven's bullshit faceroll combo are harder to use than abilities that if messed up can even hurt YOUR OWN TEAM. Not a bad vid for the most part, but questionable choices.
Mimi The HolyPudding Riven is hard champ. Easy to play ( in bronze and silver ) but hard to master. She is a faceroll champ, but perfecting her combos is hard, also she has very bad time now on top lane. There are many matchups that is difficult even for a skilled riven vs an unskilled enemy.
Jordan Albee You are wrong then. Yasuo isnt hard to play, but hard to master. First time silver yasuos do 10/0 in silver rankeds, becaouse you dont need skill to use Q and 1 hit crit the enemy. Yasuo has a very trong kit for beginner people. He has mobility, His passive and W can make him win trades that he shouldnt win and, so he isnt that punished for bad plays.
This is my top five skilled champions 5.Elise (Outplay potential) 4.Cassiopeia (need to be able to kite) 3.Gnar (need to animation cancel and kite) 2.Vladimir (when to W and when to go in) 1.Master yi (need to be very good at right clicking and spamming Q and master 7)
I know I just wish a champ that has the fifth lowest winrate in soloq wasnt getting nerfed. And i know of course that winrate isnt everything but i do beleive if they are taking the knockup away, he should be able to just go through the target, so he can get to the backline.
Ricky T. ikr -_- no more shield on his e....riot listen to me THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON AZIR COULD BUMB IN ENEMY CHAMPIONS TO GET A SHIELD AND OUT TRADE HIS OPPONET JEASUS
Tbh they only 3 champions on this I can agree with would be Lee Sin, Draven and Cassiopeia, and in the end I don't even agree with their positions on the list. As someone who is an active player of Vayne, Yasuo and Riven (Yes I'm actual cancer I know, but idgaf). The only one out of the 3 I would say is actually hard too play as Riven. Animation cancelling is a fucking annoying mechanic too get used to, whilst it's not exactly that impossible to do, it is very fucking annoying to learn how to do perfectly. The only reason people think she is so broken is because she has such good scaling, that when she gets fed it's so easy to just destroy people who don't know what they're doing. Fun fact, Riven sucks at pushing towers. Vayne is in such an amazing spot right now I don't see any point of her even being on this list, tbh the only time I would have considered her truly difficult is when her W dealt True damage and not Percentage. Her damage is fucking out of this world at the moment and it's pretty amazing Yasuo is an odd case. He's not exactly easy, but I picked him up first try and did extremely well. Tbh, even though I'm someone who ADORES the champion, he just has a stupid amount in his kit that can be exploited. I can knock up, kite, outplay all I want when I have minions, and even when I don't he has really good base damage. The minion dashing can be annoying and against certain match ups (Fuck Annie), he can be very tedious to play. Lee Sin is kinda soso, but tbh I just don't think he's really any good in most situations. There are honestly just a lot of champions who are better choices then him. Sure I can ward hop, flash and kick the enemy ADC into my team, or I could just play Annie, tibbers Ult, Q, W and get a triple kill. I think a lot of the champion is just needless fucking around and an excuse to try and look cool.
The reason lee is there is because he has the highest skill ceiling in the game. For example, when he ult, the target is rooted for 0.25 secs, and good lee sin players flah behind during that time, to insec. (You probably know this). A really good lee can carry a game better than a good Annie, just because her kit isn't a kit well made for a team comp. Lee is more flexible, whereas Annie demands a team built around her for the best result.
DaReel Fish I understand why Lee was on the list. My point just lies that whilst Lee can hard carry, his kit is a lot of uncessary fucking around. They can do a lot but a lot of it is very situational. As far as it goes a good lee can carry a game the same as an average Xin Zhao. Whilst you are right 100% no doubt., Annie cannot carry games nearly as well as Lee (Towers am I right), they don't need entire teams built around them for the best result, they just need a decent ADC and a supbar tank. Annie was an example as a champion with like 2 tricks.
windshield is down after taking damage, so if you proc that before going into battle you stand a bigger chance, his W has a 24 second cooldown. and can be baited out fairly easily. boneplating is OP and should honestly be nerfed
+dave espina he put riven and lee cause all thier skills require perfect timing the only hard thing about rumble is his ult the rest are just point and click spells and btw i suck with rumble
Lol there are no easy champions in league, even the dumbest mechanic character such as Garen, Master Yi or Ashe has it’s weakness and counters, which still makes them hard to master. I really wonder which rank u are Jeremy cause this video straight up sucks, if ur in the master or even challenger then y’all understand that there is no CHAMPIONS too hard. There’s only PLAYERS THAT MAKE YOUR GAME hard.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 It it easy as Yasuo in low elo to get kills though. The enemy team s brain dead and dodging isnt a thing. Also standing still is a strat
So... yasuo is harder than zed?! Or azir?! What?? On my second game with yasuo i got like 3 pentas... he would be hard if riot deleted his critical chance passive...
i cant play both yas and Zed but imo zed is alot harder , all his abilities need to be combo'ed perfectly , unlike Fizz where i can just Kamikaze into the enemy and take him out below his turret yas atleast can jump around fast
Azir is very hard to play -everyone
Lets nerf him -Rito
+John Green But Azir isn't hard when you're in bronze and silver. (i.e. its easy when everyone sucks)
Darius is super op -everyone
Lets buff him -riot
Srsly wth
+John Green But it's k, birdy got a buff on his ult in this patch. >:D
still hard
+John Green I absolutely love azir, then he gets nerfed out the ass.
"Twisted Fate does not has a fairly hight damage"
1 W and Q kill 50% hp Kalista
1 blue card oneshots sivir
+Theo östermalm 1 hit baron
you need to farm up really hard. look playerd lile apdo or grosd gore they have 300 farm mini each game
ahmadou jab Do u even English?
Well that is every Mage lol
This comments here are an perfect example for the lol community.
I Love the Game, but Hate the people i have to play with...
agreed
I cant figure what you are saying /: you this is not a skateboard is a scooter? Wut?
+Darth Vader every other game i have to report some kid because of inappropiate behaviour its really annoying and happens very often compared to aoe3 which is my 2nd main game
+Darth Vader Too many really bad players, and it may not even be the players skills, it just that they lack any sense of team work and just want kills.
DCFanatic7
exactly my opinion but without teamspeak its really hard to play well as a team
yesterday my mate was being attacked and another team partner ignored him well knwing he couldve saved him made both of us sooo mad :D
#'s 1 - 10 in order of appearance for those who don't have time for the video:
Cassiopeia
Bard
Twisted Fate
Thresh
Vayne
Riven
Draven
Azir
Yasuo
Lee Sin
Thresh is easy dude
Yasuo is poop xd
Bruh Sound Effect #2 his basic mechanics are easy, but playing him properly is hard
I never thought LS will be one of them since he's one of the first champions I used so easily.
This list is very faulty ngl, I went 10/3/3 on my first Lee Sin game or something like that, I got hyper fed my second vayne game and I think they’re more hard champs like nidalee, evelynn, rengar, kha zix just for the jungle
Now all the 12 yo who play Yasuo will think they are skilled because they watched this.
beacuse yasuo takes all the skill.
ALL HAIL ARKADATA (or Yassuo if you're NA)
Engineer 314 erm TheWanderingPro > ArKaDaTa
yasuo is easy to beat buthe gets punished alot honestly if he misses a tornado hes fucked if he missed a Q he's fucked he got rooted/stunned hes FUCKED yeah pretty much u cant mess up anything or you die and His E is the only thing that can save him
im 13, i play yas, but i know that im trash lol. i was surprised yas was in the list
summary
10. cassiopeia 00:45
09. bard 01:35
08. twisted fate 02:30
07. thresh 03:45
06. vayne 05:00
05. riven 05:45
04. draven 06:40
03. azir 07:55
02. yasuo 09:10
01. lee sin 10:25
you're welcome.
mocabe01 thx
Fact: 99% of the comment section is bronze level or worse (wood)
Gotou canario Fact: Most are dumbasses
Fact: the other 1 percent is stuck up tools. Just sayin, you guys really like to rub it in that you're ranked higher. Because apparently its that big of an accomplishment that you need to harp on about it like people are supposed to care. Again, just sayin
Jeremy Garner Nah, just had to point it out considering how laughable the comments are, critizicing the list by sayng a champion is easy to master when they aren't even competent with the easiest champions.
Jeremy Garner he's saying that because most of the dislikes are people saying so and so take no skill cause only a faceroll champ that requires no skill can beat my ap draven carry mechanics
***** fair enough, like I said. Just sayin.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play support Nocturne. Because that's totally gonna work.
"Twisted Fate does not have a high damage kit"
*Shows TF bursting someone down with just two spells*
half health adc gets kills by the only 2 damaging spells a full ap champ has, WOW SO UNBALANCED
The comments show again how toxic and idiotic the community is.
"I got stomped by a champion -> it needs no skill."
...Not even the attempt to understand why the opponent won in the first place, not the attempt to understand what it needs to play a champ effectively.
I wonder what other characters these dimwits consider more demanding.
The difference between a good Lee Sin / Riven and a bad one is immediatly obvious. One cannot say the same about Garen or Warwick.
+Taxtro from this list i can imagine that azir, thresh and bard the others not so much. lee sin, riven and yasuo take not that much skil play. i think the most can agree on that
Nick Siebers
Well that's simply wrong.
You can immediately distinguish a good Lee / Riven / Yasuo from a bad one.
Any small mistake with these characters gets punished harshly. You have to be really fast and possess great game knowledge to make an impact.
Sure, you can be basic Lee Sin and just protect your carries with E and R, but to really use his potential, you have to be really quick with the ward jumps and on point with the ult alignment.
Yasuo is a melee carry with no escapes whatsoever. When you find him out of position, he's dead. That's partly why his winrate is so atrocious.
You have to micro manage your dashes and Q stacks in a fight while evading and going for the right targets. Additionally, if you want to be able to block everything, you can block with his W, you have to know the casting animation of every projectile skill - and they are often very similar to the ones of autoattacks.
Lastly Riven... she is the character in this game, you can probably spend most time on. People practice her in bot games, people come up with new combos and tricks. Sure she can be frustrating to play against due to her CC and shields, but when a Riven stomps your team, she has earned it. A single rooting ability can thoroughly ruin her teamfight, as it does not only stop her from moving, but also denies her Q knockup, damage, and her shield.
yup and then when you say: can you shut your mouth mister eZ ass Rager now sit down and play. you get banned for "Toxity" while the one you was talking about wishes that someone's family dies of all deseases in the world. 2days later on LoLking i can see him play still and im banned Gg
+Taxtro 1 thing, your comment make totally sense. and i found it funny how every comment that say ... isnt that hard to play cause ... have atleast 20 likes cause the most think same but the most are bronze and silver in league so i think the most dont see the potencial of something or know how hard something is they just see the riven/lee/yasuo that are once feeded and rek the whole enemy team.
*****
No, but maybe I will find the patience to learn Lee Sin some time.
How bout Easy-to-learn, but hard-to-master list?
Kuudere Shiina That's mostly just a thing Cardboard 7 kata mains say, there aren't many champs that are even that hard to master, letalone if they are easy to use to begin with.
Riven #1. I mean, since I've started to learn her combos and practicing her animation canceling (including fast combo and other boxbox techniques) I've felt like m2k, being able to see frame by frame and shit.
Kuudere Shiina Riven takes the trophy. It's really easy to learn her useful combos. Then the mains start inventing stuff that you'll NEVER USE, and it's hard to pull off right, just to say she is really hard.
Kuudere Shiina nanami best grill !!
Kuudere Shiina Tbh most of the champions on this list fall into that category, other than maybe azir and cassiopia. Throw in a master yi and you're set.
Easy way to count bronze players:
Look at the comments on "omg riven is so easy to master what r u talkin about". Add those + their likes and BOOM. That's how many bronzes are here.
+Brony Pie easy to play* hard to master :/
deimianXD Other people are saying she's easy to master. I know she's easy to play, but I also know she is definitely not easy to master.
+Brony Pie Compared to some other champs she is easy to master. Not easy but definitely not top 5 hardest
+Brony Pie shes hard to play hard to master.
theres a reason why only hardcore riven mains reach master/challenger with her
+Saktor2 they reach that tier because of how EASY she is
#10 Cassiopeia
#9 Bard
#8 Twisted Fate
#7 Thresh
#6 Vayne
#5 Riven
#4 Draven
#3 Azir
#2 Yasuo
#1 Lee Sin
Thank me later!
"Not a high damage kit" as TF kills a man in 2 seconds.
LOL 'kills a man in 2 seconds'
sounds like a serial killer, which he is
Everyone can kill a champion in 2 seconds if they are fed...
+CrazyHynter ap ashe cant :3
+ChivK-12 a fed ap ashe could just one shot with her ult
+Space Marketeer Kelly uhm lets see if she has 1000 ap which is waaaay more than you will get you deal about 1650 damage with your ult not counting mr... that wont kill anyone
Bronze players be like "Can't wait to find my new main"
And thats why you have a rope as ur profile pic
Sorle and it is Yasuo.
"Riven can get punished and locked down by cc so easy." How?! She has 4 dashes and a shield. Please explain to me how riven is more likely to get locked down by cc when no other (melee) toplaner has this amount of defensive options. Same with vayne and her "terrible kiting kit" really? invisibility, knockback and a dash. Compare this to draven or graves.
Sander Let's not forget how he said that tf has a low damage kit, like seriously? Yeah he's weak early, but mid to late game he's REALLY strong, and if you have good map awareness, you can pull off some very devastating ganks!
Sander that's the point, she has 4 dashes (let's be honest, that are fairly low range), you can't mess up even ONE dash or you die instantly. How many gave I've had when I was learning how to properly play riven, where I was like 15/2 or something, I enter a teamfight, and a leona just dash stun me and ult me and I instantly die cuz I used my spells at the wrong time.
I feel the reason why riven is #5 is because she requires a lot of decision making (like twisted fate or cassio for example) but also insanely good mechanics (all the animation cancels, combo management and stuff)
I think riven is really underrated mechanically speaking, people think riven is "easy to play and shit on people" but just try a game when you don't counter pick your lane, you might cry (cry a lot if it's a renekton/malphite/garen or something)
wipoulou
"you can't mess up even ONE dash or you die instantly"
This is true for pretty much any other melee champion. Even more true since most of them can't get out after they engage, while Riven will have at the very least 2 dashes left. That is also why any other champion than Riven will need to pick up some defensive items. Riven doesn't instantly die because of her kit but because she lacks the Randuin's that any other champion in your situation is required to have or they'd be dead even faster. In other words Riven is only "instantly dead" because she is the only champion that can reliably survive while building no defensive stats.
Sander She can't reliabily survive its just defensive stats are kind of wasted on her it would be like building tank yasuo or zed she is supposed to have the ability to all in but you can punish her heavily for it easily same as vayne has high Damage due to her W but low hp so she can be crushed easy if you use CC against her it juat maaters about your skill as a player if you can actually hit them with CC then that is a great starting point.
wipoulou AHAHAHAA i was vs'ing a riven and my adc was like 10/1/5 as vayne with bt but didnt have the shield on yet when we wnet top for the "free gold from a 0/8/1 Riven" and then the Riven entered a bush running away from us and as soon as i ward, we saw an ulted riven, she stunned us and which ment i couldn't flay her 3rd q as thresh and she 1 combo killed the vayne with like 58 cs at 25 mins.... I have to admit being able to kill a well farmed and fed adc with her support and without even doing the boxbox animation cancel on aa or attacking between abilities for the use of the passive is pretty skilled ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
How much did they pay you to put yas on this list?
Bronze player confirmed, target in sight
Alexander Robinson
Yasuo is easy why no zed
League GRINDER 57 both zed and yasuo sre hard :) zed is hard on macro and must think about everything he will do, yasuo is more micro hard :) plat+ he is hard to play cudz people here know how to play vs him
BRONZE DETECTED
Yasuo is an unbelievably easy champion. I can't for the life of me understand why people hype him up so much.
lol i actually worked with my boy gaming curios on this list, if you guys don't think riven is a hard champ to master then you've never faced a good riven player and actually played against someone like best riven NA or revenge or hey its viper.
there's a reason why you call people riven mains, because not a lot of people can actually play riven to her full potential
lee sin is like shit in the above average hands, but if you mastered him completely you'll be #1 aka rush
My Riven main Heart
Soooo true and to other champ too
Malphites not on the list, why ?
I mastered Riven's all combo in half a year
I'm in diamond and riven isnt even close to be called difficult. Just cdr build till death
I think Zed is harder to play than Yasuo considering the unfriendly meta.
if you learn how to use yasuo's dash with the minion wave to give more poke damage, and get away without being hit, you'll only get better from there on out
+Yuwen Taiji Yeah he is.I mastered him in top lane.
+Yuwen Taiji Zed isn´t hard. You only have to spam xD
+Yuwen Taiji
Zed is better than Yasuo in this meta. However, I do feel that Zed should be on this list.
+Yuwen Taiji Mechanically, Zed is harder to play, yeah. But meta-wise? Duskblade and Thunderlord's are simply disgusting on him, I think the meta is actually super-friendly to AD assassins right now. Mages are the ones who have it rough
god... there is so much riven shit talking. honestly, in elo lower than gold, riven is a joke. riven players are selfish and thirsty most of the time, and they CAN 1v5 if they get fed, but that is not because of mechanical skill. riven may feel cheap, but any cc locks her down so quickly.
Bio Spec Tell that to my friend XD this dude will go in any lane and any role as Riven, and he made it to Gold 3 that way O.o fucking crazy shit man.
Erak Bryant gold 3 is low elo.
John Andrews he said "elo lower than gold". next time please read the OP before trying to correct me xp
Bio Spec This just in: CC locks champions down! More at 10
Erak Bryant still gold 3 is low as fuck lol. I play troll champs like poppy support and lissandra jungle in Gold 1 and i roll face. Plat-bronze is the same league except plat players can farm
azir deserves nr.1.
he is easy
just because you rekt some bronzies doesnt mean hes easy lol
it's not a hard champion to learn honestly
He is super fun to play if you can MASTER him I haven't yet but I love him still I get S a lot of when I play him.
Here comes the xerath mains😒
"The insane amount of mechanics she needs to pull of effectively"
Riven does not need to pull these things off imo.
Riven is not a stupid champion, she has advanced mechanics one can learn, but she does not need them.
Riven has a strong early game, she can just start snowballing and win the game, without needing these mechanics, thats why i do not agree with rivens/some other spots on the list.
Cassiopeia for example needs good positioning and micro management to win.
Just my opinion, its fine to disagree.
Ayyy lmao In order to snowball with her you need to pull those things off effectively, at a higher elo atleast.
kyatzz 1% of players or so are high elo, this video is not meant for them
Ayyy lmao its meant for who then exactly? those are HIS Top Hardest Champions to Play and Master in League of Legends, the hardest, not the easiest, its probable meant more for the higher elos then the lower elos, because low elo doesnt gives a fuck about what is hard to play, they want the easy ones, the type that helps you climb easily.
PS.: sorry about the bad english tho
Ayyy lmao so you realize that riven is an all in MELEE champ right? and you don't think she requires good positioning while building glass cannon? k
Frittatas She does, but so does Fiora or any other all in meele champ, but they are not on the list.
Anyone else triggered he didn't use Tyler1
I think that the reason that a lot of comments here are disgruntled about some of the choices here is due to more of a misunderstanding than anything.
To me, this list makes more sense if it was titled "Top Ten Hardest Champions to MASTER" rather than "to play." Using the phrase "to play" implies a high skill floor, where as "to master" implies a high skill ceiling. Which makes sense. Yi is an example of an incredibly low skill floor and incredibly high skill ceiling champion. A relatively new or inexperienced Yi can still do damages and whatnot, but a Master Yi is incredible to watch. Using the Q to dodge auto attacks and point and click CC, using the heal as an auto attack reset, the melee orbwalking and animation canceling, ect.
All the champions on this list have incredibly high skill ceilings, and the ones people are contesting are usually the champions with low skill floors. Jeremy actually spoke about this with Draven. Draven has a medium skill floor, but justified Draven's placement on the list by talking about how incredibly high of a skill ceiling Draven has. Riven is another example of a medium/low skill floor with a high skill ceiling.
And then there are champions on this list like Azir who have high skill floors and skill ceilings, which no one really contest. Just my thoughts.
Brad Hicks Yi is not "hard to master", he is just useless. There's nothing a Yi can do to stop your mage's or support's CC from shutting him down. This is because his only "outplay" potential is hitting Q at the right time; if he outplay potential (like Yasuo) he'd be a high skill ceiling champ with low skill floor.
And yes, the title is pretty misleading if this is what he was aiming at.
Alfredo z. Shows how much you know, Cowsep easily proves you wrong.
Then everyone is hard to master.
Alfredo z. exept for ww. He doesnt have any mechanics to master xD Just dont ult into 5 people and you have more or less mastered him
Alfredo z. As a yi main you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. He is insane to master. And I guess just flat out killing them is doing "nothing" about their cc? You also forget about when to use ult to run or fight, when to use meditate as an aa reset, heal, damage mitigation, or all of the above, or when to activate your E in order to get your true damage through the entire fight.
So yes. Yi is hard to master, and is a low floor, high ceiling champ
I LIKED THE JOKE: "nr 6 hardest champ is vayne"
1-azir
2-yasuo
3-lee sin
azir ez
+Ragen Crimson I play azir just fine right now, he can still carry teams and be super deadly late game. If you main azir you should know how to deal with these situations, even if he is nerfed to the ground.
+Ragen Crimson "Mastered in two weeks." mkay.
+naitoflik92 1. Lee sin 2. Draven 3. Cassiopeia
LOL do you mean the easyest?
Yasuo over Azir? No way in hell.
yasuo is kinda hard for some people, truth. but boy, that hommie azir is impossible, I just couldn't master his combo(s) and shit....
bro, this arsefuck can 5man insec with ease when mastered. fuck my life
mastering azir really is hard but for me i'll never give up mastering him AND I ALREADY KNOW THE BEST COMBO FOR HIM AND WHAT USE OF HIS ULT
yeah, it is easy but the problem is....his ss kindaa hard to catch :3
Lance Mausser THANK YOU
I think there are much more difficult champions (some are pretty much unplayable) than some listed here:
- Singed: I find that chasing Singed is only a bad idea if you're literally chasing him across the map, since his poison damage is negligible on short pursuits with just a little bit of MR. His early game is also weak, can't do much damage and is really squishy, so your build path will leave him with one of the two downsides for most of the match. The only viable strategy is Proxy Singed, which is extremely difficult, and will probably require most of your team to be early-game specialist champs.
- Rumble: He requires a certain part of his heat gauge to be full in order for his damage to be effective, which is difficult to do considering he is melee, must be in combat frequently and has no innate sustain. Ranged champions will seriously screw him over unless he goes ham early, preferably with a jungler to aid him.
These are just to name a few. It might just be that I'm shite with them but some champs mentioned in this video are piss-easy in comparison.
Echo Sierra What rating are you? Singed.... difficult...... There is a reason why singed hasn't seen lcs in like 3 years. His mechanics are to simple that he has such a limited about of things he can do is a situation is easy to know and be prepared for them all.
Echo Sierra The list is about which champions are hardest to play at their highest possible level, not which ones are hardest to play and win with. Singed has very little mechanics outside of his e into w combo, so it's generally very easy to play singed at the highest level the champion can provide (outside of some abstract farming/pressure strategies, but those aren't mechanical).
Isaiahbolt6 Jeremy put Lee Sin at number one because of his low power than ever. Sure, he has some mechanics that are difficult to pull off, but I find that Lee is really weak unless he gains a good advantage. The same goes for Singed.
Echo Sierra I mostly agree with your comment about Rumble. His heat can be pretty hard to manage sometimes, and if you overheat at the absolute worst time, all you'll have is decent on-hit damage that's very easy to kite out and ignore without your other skills and slows.
However, he doesn't have a huge amount of outplay potential and he just might not be absolutely useless when played without skill.
I think he deserves a spot next to Twisted Fate or Cassiopeia, because he lacks hard outplay potential, though he does more damage more easily than TF.
Singed is easy and not hard at all, im not bronze... Im a master
Kids, this was made on 2015. Nerfs and buffs would've changed opinions. Please shhh and no toxcity.
LaZrr Montage the meta is not important.When you say the hardest champion you have to analyse their kits
i think azir should be in the first place
yes m too
wasn't announced when this video got uploaded
nvm my bad
Azir not so skilled
+Seidou Takizawa really?
Dissapointed at the lack of Elise.
I agree
Ryo Bakura The thing is that Elise is just straight up bad.. so yeah it is hard to do good with her, but the use of her kit is not really hard to understand
Ryo Bakura i main elise, and globox, no she isnt bad , shes reeeaaaallllyyy strong
(i know you arent supposed to but i main ap elise) and full build your human q does 30% hp, same with spider (but its 30% lost health) you and your spiders hurt like hell, (around 200 extra magic dmg per hit from you, and 250 from spiders after mr reduction) volatile spider does around 800-1000, she 1 shots any adc late game and if a stun is landed then qw switch to spider, your bite and spiders along with w will let you destroy tanks (attk speed plus teh magic bonus is op) so shes damn strong sorry for the giant essay
globoxnorris i am silver , but i play well (it is legit my teams that make me silver lol) elise is my ap jg main, but hecarim is better imo if you need a jg and you have 2 aps 2 ads on your team, just his late game is better, sure elise is better for tanking tower but still
globoxnorris She's actually really strong, you jsut build more magic pen and tank than flat ap
Me at number 5 riven okay, maybe zed will be next. Finishes watching vid. Wtf no zed?
Liam Donker finally a comment i agree with :D of all the champions with a really high skillcap that isnt on this list Zed should be. a true master of zed can outplay an entire team
S3PT1M1 well, shaco isn't here either. imho shaco deserves that #1 more than lee sin if we follow his thought process of having to be creative and not knowing what to do
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I wouldn't say shaco has the same skill cap as most of these champs in terms of mechanical difficulty. however in terms of desision making and map awareness a truely great shaco player needs to be a strategic god. ive seen high elo shaco's and what they do isn't as flashy or as complicated, but the level of awareness needed to be the demon jester he's suposed to be is pretty amazing
Liam Donker not even rengar is on the list aswell
Liam Donker Zed has free wave clear, very good at that. He has a minion execute so he can farm easily, oh and he can also farm from range so you can't shut him down! He has a "oh crap I messed up" button on his R so he is easily the safest Assassin in the game.
Î would've put Lee Sin a bit lower on the list. And all the Silver and Bronze Scrubs down in the comments are really fucking stupid. It makes me cry.
IMO hardest champions that I can think of (not in any order)
Draven - high APM from catching axes + deciding whether to catch axes or not
Vayne - weak early/mid game, extremely squishy, amazing kiting potential that demands good reflexes and mechanics
Lee Sin - easy to pick up, hard to master. Fast ward hopping, Q prediction, flash + ult combos
Bard - decision making + prediction with R
Shaco - super snowbally but extremely risky since he becomes useless if he doesn't get fed early game. Requires excellent map awareness and anticipation of enemy map position to counter jungle and gank
Yasuo - Amazing outplay potential from W E and great DPS from Q R but requires strong mechanics
TF - Picking the right card with Pick a Card isn't hard. Hard is having the reflexes to pick the card you want if it's the first to appear with W. And even harder than that is positioning, positioning, positioning since you need to be alive to keep chucking cards at everyone after WQ two-shotting the carries.
EDIT:
The above champs are listed not only because of mechanics but also the level of decision-making expected of the player due to the flexibility of their kits to be useful in so many situations.
That's why I didn't put Riven on this list, even though playing her demands some finesse in spacing QWE and weaving in autos. Compared to the above champions, she has a rather linear playstyle and making a mistake with her is far more forgiving since she has self peel from her ridiculous mobility and low CD.
Patrick Lee really good reasonings aswell
I Main tf and for me the hardest thing about him (without counting the posicioning) is picking the right card at the right moment in risky situations, If you misspick a card you're completely vulnerable to the enemy team.
Patrick Lee IMO Vel'Koz is pretty high up there too - You need very good positioning in team fights, are very immobile and can get easily punished when you miss your E. Also you rely solely on Skillshots that mostly fly pretty slow too
Patrick Lee i use bard' ult for trolling,when my adc is about to kill someone i just ult him. XD
fbgnhn i do that with Tahm
I don't get why shaco isn't in the list... I only know one master shaco...
shaclone ?? :P
Thats a good point lol. I barely see him. Especially in any ranked due to how he isnt great in most team comps.
i came here for this. shaco is at least as hard as lee, considering his squishy aspect, i ll easily give him number one in this list. number of people who master or main shaco ( correctly ) is 1/10 of those who play lee correctly.
Thats simply because the champ is shit. "I dont know a single challenger urgot main" see what the problem is?
C7LT Who talk about urgot?
im starting to give up on this channel
Why?
ok1000ok1000 this video was so BAD lee sin number 1? hes so easy where's akali? Draven isn't the easiest but so hard?! vladimir isn't easy either but none were on this list.
Merijn Dekeyser He is always talking about punishing people and those things which are aplied to most assassins champions or squishy ones at least lately this channel is full of bs
Merijn Dekeyser he probably shouldve named it mechanically hard champions, also vlad is one of the easiest Champs in the game, his only skillshot is his ult and he's manaless lol.
Merijn Dekeyser lol please don't comment
If yasuo is hard champion the earth is flat
gmoney125- Nightcore he is hard, he’s only broken AFTER he’s fed, if u mess up early game, ur gonna have a horrible time.
If Riven is easier then yasuo the earth is flat XD
>Champions like Thresh, Shaco, Malzahar, Bard, and even Rumble taking less skill then Riven.
Ryze takes more skill to play then Riven.
Dragonmist19X actually thats not true at all. Riven is way more hard than the champs u mentioned.
TheTf2bros yeah real hard, The hard part of riven is the keyboard you need, because not any keyboard can support the keyboard obliteration while playing that champ
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look mom im main riven
-And the medics said you wasnt able to use your hands !!!
Dragonmist19X To properly Q cancel with Riven is why she is one of the hardest to master. Top 3 in the game to master.. to this date there is like 2% of the community that does the Q cancelling properly
Lunasllenas Best LoL Gags you guys are both wrong and salty riven its rly easy to perform at average level but to be god is hard
yeah you can pick riven smashing buttons and succsede but there is time when thats not going to be enough
Dragonmist19X Hey guys, I found the average bronze player!
*Invoker walks in*
LoL's hardest hero to play:
"Well shit."
I'm Invoker main and I quit Dota. However, I play League of Legends and to be honest, many champions are harder than Invoker.
which on is harder ? interesting.
I find arc warden harder tbh
who's missing?
Rumble
Orianna
Teemo (Kappa)
VelKoz
Elise
Anivia
etc...
Bernhard Seipel and zed
y true
Bernhard Seipel '-' if there is 30 champ in a top 10 this is not a top 10
el ben What i want to say is, there are much more difficuIt champs than Riven or Iee Sin
lee sin is for me the most difficult champ in lol, riven is easy to play, but hard to master, i think they can keep their position in this top (my opinion)
other hard champions that isn't on this video...
Zed - Aurelion Sol - LeBlanc - Ryze - Viktor
Zed isn't that hard
@pro player Not really , you can easily get fed since he has all he needs in his kit and then 1 shot the adc with ult AA E in late
Le Blanc is not in this list just because she only needs 2 skills to kill anyone right?
leblanc is hard as fuck way harder than yasuo imo
yeah but imo any champion is easy to play but hard to master
NeonIceCream X IMO She’s the easier, point-and-click version of Zed and even that doesn’t sum up how much easier she is than Zed. Whereas Yasuo...there’s a reason why Yasuos are often toxic or feeders. The room for error for Yasuo is nill and a virtually no cooldown dash is not enough to counter that on its own.
Engineer 314 lmfaoo, zed is easier than leblanc, literally the only thing easier about leblanc is most the matchups mid land where leblanc level 2 cheeses most mid laners but that's really it. Unless you're gold or lower I guess
@@ThaHangman yes ofc
ua-cam.com/video/o8vGaC4OZIs/v-deo.html
this is JSUT SOOO EASY
literally the play that showed the world THE ULTIMATE SKILL
on lb?
nope ON ZED
If we update this list, the new Gangplank and Ryze could potentially be added.
Lissandra Freljord agree. Both hard champs to master. When I started playing both Gangplank and ryze I have no what I'm doing. And now my ryze is lv5 mastery
In Ryze.. He's kinda hard. He has low mobility, so pretty easy to gank. And If you can't do combos in 1v1 you're doomed. But he has outplay so i'd give him a 7.5/10 difficulty
Lissandra Freljord yes I'm a gangplank main
Totally agree
That One Shaco Lvl 5 mastery is not even good please educate yourself
11:31 omg that guy just smited the minion in order to q vayne...
lol
well that's why it's in the video lol
Ik it was just insanes. Vayne was moving and so was the minion wave, he had to predict where vayne was going to be after he threw his q as well as which minion would be in his way when he casted it.
if that play impress you go watch gripex lee compilation, he is the real lee god
I will, thanks.
Where's Aurelion Sol?
see date of video
he's not difficult to play at all, the champion just need the player to have good position
YE EXACTLY
wasnt released in 2015
@@vzvzvzvzvz4515 erm no, aurelion is i think most dificult in game rn
I can't read this comment section, it's so bronze shades that it isn't readable anymore
10. Rek'Sai
9. Nidalee
8. Twisted Fate
7. Rengar (It's my 2nd favorite champ)
6. Vayne
5. Draven
4. Lee Sin
3. Rumble
2. Gnar (mp!y main and favorite champion)
1. Riven
Those are my difficult champions (even I got 2 of my 5 favorite champions there where difficult to me)
+Kayze Gnar? If you can manage fury he isn't hard, Rumble has passive like that and he is 10 times harder, try to hit his ult.
thnk it twise, because 1. its my list xD
nd 2. i played rumble later than gnar (almost 1 season) so it was easier to me learn about rumble than gnar
+Kayze RENGAR THERE? PUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH X'D
+HOLY SHEEP you had yours, I have mine, and yes Rengar was difficult to me , I didn't build it well
***** its ok for the others bro, every one has his opinion, but say that rengar is a skilled/difficult champ is ridiculous according to me
forgot gangplank
3 years later i see how many bronze players saying "OHhH YaSuO iS so EasY"
True
@@nzw7557 actually, he's not. His hit is one of the hardest o master, not to mention that if you waste one of your skills at the wrong time, ur screwed.
Ok please. Firstly, you should not even mention Riven. Secondly, there are some champions who are a lot harder to play. A good shaco, zed, nidalee, kalista (maybe,) orianna, syndra (maybe.) I also consider nami a little tricky cuz of her Q and maybe some other hard to pull skillshots, but these don't make an entire champion so I didn't mention them. Also playing teemo in high elo is hard cuz everyone counters and fucks you, so it's extremely hard to play teemo competitively without getting rekt. But idk, some people find him "easy" to play, most probably cuz they are lower elo. Oh, jeremy forgot to add kata on the list.
No mention of riven? Lol bronze detected
***** agree
I believe Riven's easy to learn and play at low levels, yet very hard to master and play at high levels.
When you try to play her at low levels and you're just learning, she's basically like a Master Yi except probably weaker (before you learn to use her mobility and defense well). But when she's played in higher levels and you've mastered her, she can be like a Zed with (arguably) slightly less outplay potential.
I do believe Zed should be somewhere on this list, since he's mostly similar to Riven, with great burst and executes accompanied by a potentially large amount of mobility.
Also, just because a champion is hard to play competitively, it doesn't mean they're hard to play. Teemo is hard to play competitively because he has (potentially) a bunch of counterplay, and he doesn't really have a high skill cap. Also, he requires just as much mechanics and knowledge to play as champions like Master Yi and Veigar, who also have a potentially large amount of counterplay. So I think it's mostly just because it's generally hard to play competitively.
Skins Have Skills I'm in plat and although i don't play riven frequently I can tell she is a difficult champion. I play against enough rivens to know that if i'm playing against a good riven then i will have a hard lane. If i'm against a riven who doesn't have much experience as her than my lane can be pretty easy since she won't be able to do those trades where she takes no damage. Only thing easy about riven is if you are playing her in a favorable matchup where you can all in at level 2.
Oriana is easy
Am i the only one who thinks Zed is hard then?
agree
+jordan t you're not the only bro!
+jordan t First time zed i got a pentakill. Zed is easy dude
+Sam Smit easy to play, hard to master
Of your enemies just sucked
As a Riven main at high elo,it's really sad how people seem to just mashup they keyboard in plat-bronze elo games....
+Berg So many salty low elo people,that have no basic knowledge of the game mechanics.
Yes Riven might be fairly easy at extremely low elo (gold-bronze),afterwards i wish you good luck without the animation canceling or for example the fast Q. (which players fail to execute and jump over)
where is anivia? lets just say she is number 11 ...
Evil Morty anivia was the first champion I got a D- on .... in an ARAM. I am so ashamed lol.
I played anivia one round and remember having fun at first then realizing how much I can't really do. It's pretty hard
Did he forget zed?
i mean zed have one of most counterplay on his kit and items pick
John BOB I think it's because of the ultimate, Zed is pretty hard to play, but in all the list, he's the only one who can press a SINGLE button to get out of all the troubles.
All the others champions are like "If you fail, you're dead" kind of champ, If Zed fails, he still can use his R Shadow back, i think that's the reason why he isnt on the list
krakeurpluss so this is not a list of hard champion to play its a list of champions with no escapes.
not after the nerf, you have 1 sec delay before you can press R again. that is enough time for CC him bc you know where he will land
the other thing as i said are that he depending on ultimate to kill off other champions. there are champions like kayle, lissandra or zilean that negate zed ultimate.
that is not enough you have items like Qss and zhonya too.
See so much counterplay for a champion
John BOB yasuo shouldnt be on there he should be swapped with zed
Josh Witchey ever play yasuo?
Katarina is really hard to master, i think she should be on number 1.
You need skill do know when you keyboard is gonna break at the exact time.
You must have a strong face to hit QWER with.
This champion is truly hard to play and i disliked the video cause she isn't number 1
No,i didnt dislike its just for the joke.
dude Katharina is for shitheads
You dont understand the joke?
Shes easy!
First practice and i already master her and one build test and i already master her powerful build
Do people even notice the joke?
People these days.... Can't even notice a joke
all these silvers commenting here oh my god i cant read this
Ew you must be plat or lower kek
Jay Pe
diamond 3, dropped to d5 lately
+Nostalgimus Summoner Name?
Simon Lucas Front Flip eune
+Nostalgimus you're bragging about d5 LOL
How tf is riven easier than yasuo
What?
riven main here i think yasuo is harder too u have only two damage ablitys and a dash but u cant jsut mindlesly dash around u have a lot outplay potential but i think u need to put more work into yasuo maybe like year even if he doesnt have much combos as riven does
Because yasuo just poke and dash and stuff riven takes a lot of time to get used to or to master.
Jayr Gaming stfu I'm a Yasuo main btw :3
Let's React how tf is riven or yasuo on this list
I really don't think Riven should be as high as she is on this list if she should be on this list at all. I used her once when she was free and got a quadra kill. I was laning people at the same rank as me so they weren't 'feeding noobs'.
I never picked her up since I don't think anyone deserves to face such a broken champion.
Pawlok 13 competitive level?
Pawlok 13 ez to learn ez to master*.
ToshiroHitsuguya143 Well said my friend, well said.
ToshiroHitsuguya143 and what exactly was that lvl? Low gold? below gold? If you were the least a platinum 3 player and you played vs another plat 3 player you woudn't even get close to farm if he has a fuctional brain since you would not know how to trade. Plz I PLAYED X I DID 40KILLS ONE GAME OMG BROKEN are simply Bullcrap.
The actual list:
10. Elise
9. Twisted Fate
8. Kha'Zix
7. Thresh
6. Rumble
5. Orianna
4. Tahm Kench
3. Bard
2. Draven
1. Azir
Colin Brown i cant lie your list makes more sense except for tahm..imo hes honestly not that hard
Colin Brown Thresh is actually pretty easy. Now before you go all "YOU DON'T PLAY HIM YOU WOULDN'T KNOW BLAH BLAH BLAH!" I'm a rank 5 mastery Thresh main and my only problem is the people could and should use the lantern but don't cause they think they're Faker which isn't a fault on the champion but your teammates. Other than that I agree
Colin Brown See. this is a frickin list! I can't speak for the fish-man-frog, but those are what hard to play champs look like
Colin Brown don't agree with that list.
FridgeridooTV +1 to that
lol yas 2th hardest champ? gp not even on the list?
2TH?
2th xDDDDDDD
2 t h
LMAO 2 T H XDDDD
2th LOL
Lee Sin may be hard to fight with but the speed and efficiency of him clearing the jungle, ganking and counter jungle can easily compensate that on lower elo, wouldn't place him on 1.
riven #5 and yasuo #2? WTF ? xD
+albert wesker Riven must be #1
+albert wesker why his banrate got so high on preseason only?hmm i got it they saw one game with warlords B (that first OP one) and now thinks yasuo is a noob champ...maybe you should listen what he says in the video
+Sleidron no! yasuo must be number one
Riven has so mutch combos and its hard to play her. Allways when i play hear im fking nervous and u need to play seriously Riven. Im Dia 4 Riven Main
+Bryan A riven is one of easiest champ, but hard to master
You forgot Warwick
lol warwick?
ayish farrish joking
:)
Ally DeSantis lol hes easy
press r
So many bronze players crying about yasuo and riven on the list...
+JustinsRealmMC thank u!! lol
cos they don't even know what annimation cancel is like :p or knocking up 5 man with yasuo q !!
They're hard to master but easy to play, they don't really fit in.
the video is about how hard champs are to master so they fking fit in!!
listen to what he said at the start -.-
Did you at least read the title of the video ?
it says both in the title
+habib ksontini All riven players arguments to riven being hard to play is "animation cancel"
It's really not as hard as people make it out to be
Lol at lvl 16 i bought draven and at lvl 26 did my first penta
Where are zed,shaco,kalista...you started off ok but later on in the list....
Kalista and Zed are easy
+The Jokes On U ya zed is a champ you need like what 10 minutes to realize what he does
Kalista rip your spears through the bitches ult your sup into the adc she stuns you q auto auto e
Kalista isn't hard to play, m8
CumsterPlays how do you figure that?if you want to play her good she has difficult mechanics her jumping can screw you up if you dont know what you are doing , your ult relies on your teammate too so you need to pay attention to when they are ready as well,to someone that doesnt know a lot about the game she wont be playable
+i'mme i'mmme Yeah shes fairly mechanical but the champs on the list require more than Kalista.
Ekko deserves to be on this list if you ask me, or at least an honorable mention.
I AT LEAST expected Orianna...it is so freaking easy to miss damage with your ball movements...she requires a lot of mechanical skill and micromanagement...but no. This guy has freaking riven and bard and yasuo on this list...
+Logan Cobb Have you mastered animation cancelling on riven? It's, among lee sin's insec, one the most difficult mechanical skills out there.
Oriana is nothing compared to the skill it takes to animation cancel a riven with 1.7 atack speed.
Igree about bard. Yasuo is however, very hard to play at a high level. Up to gold or platinum, yasuo get away with mistakes, with in high diamond only excellents yasuo succed.
Same as riven. A Riven that cant animation cancell, cannot play at a high level. The dmg output is too low with out it.
Ekko= W, E, Q, Walk away, R. An enemy has been slain.
you can make it sound that easy for any champion
Sean Bush well actually yeah, Ekko is hard to master, i mean when i first played him i would feed at least 7/10 games (Because i sucked and still do) but he is pretty easy to learn.
Yeah, but typically champions that are more mechanically difficult to play or micromanage don't get played because of the heavy criticism you get from the League community if you can't play them well. I understand wanting to win, people, but in a normal game, don't assume because you may be a god at particular champions that everyone else is the same way.
Also, If you can't be encouraging to your teammates, please don't say anything at all. They are your teammates for crying out loud. Even if you criticize them, understand that different people take criticism differently. If you want to be really offensive about it, don't do it toward a teammate. That's like asking to lose. Sure, some people are fine with any type of criticism, be for the sake of victory, assume harsh criticism will negatively affect their game play.
true hardest
1-victor
2-lee sin
3-zed
4-vayne
5-azir
6-udyr
7-cassiopia
8-thresh
9-kayn
10-sivir
true easiest
1-Master Yi ..
2-yasuo
3-katarina
4-teemo
5-garen
6-mokai
7-lux
8-tryndamere
9-renger
10-warwick
rengar and kata shouldnt be in this list
Horrible list Katarina should obviously be 1, 2 master yi, 3 garen, 4 warwick, 5 annie
my list is so good right?
katarina actually isnt that easy. sure her basics are simple its the one combo and her dmg is insane but u have to know when to join a fight, u have to look what cc the enemies have left so u wont be interrupted, who u have to kill first and then second after ur reset then third and so on. but thats decisionmaking so her mechanics are quite easy yeah
lol Master Yi isn't easy at all...
+TheBronzeLeaguePlayer Don't forget Tryndamere! Btw Yi has alot more skill involved then what most players think :P . Also I suck ass with Warwick ;/
+TheBronzeLeaguePlayer why do people think that katarina is easy ...she is hard if you play her in higher elo without skill you are dead after one cc
+Šimon Řezníček *in higher Elo's. people think she is easy because they aren't in higher elo's
Honestly I think Anivia shoudl be here, meybe even the hardest. As she is hard to play even as an average champion.
Tepiz nah aniva is hard to play and she should replace riven. i'm shocked that rumble wasnt their man.
Anivia is not hard to play it's just more getting used to her like Kalista but she definitely is mechanically hard
what is with Anivia? shes quiet hard to play.
She's actually really cheap at gold to play for climbing... Play extremely safe pre6 unless you have an egg... After 6 er. Yes. Er not re. Do er but do it fast
+Summ0nerB3AST well thanks but I used to play her and Im not that bad anymore
+Joy Rene shes kind of middle ground, against champions she is really easy and does a lot more damage than anyone ever expects, but she cant farm for shit. i mean, her auto attacks do like, 45 at the start of the game. thats just horrible
+Joy Rene i agree. she has the lowest health in the game and also one of the lowest movement speed and not really any mobility skills. Allready just placing her wall a little wrong gets u punished insane.
All you have to do is build a little magic resist and she can't do anything to you
Ok, first, how are YASUO and DRAVEN harder than RIVEN, and why is there a champion above AZIR?
Azir is quite easy =) played him first time in ranked and won easily and did some good combos in teamfights when enemies had hard ccs
And escapes
NandaKoreWa you’re probably in iron V if you think azir is easy
G4 lol
@@pepegaclap8432 Maybe for you it´s easy, but for the majority there and objectively technicaly no, its not.
Why do people think Riven is hard, she is overrated. A few custom games to practice the important combos and you're done. And this goes for most champions. But Riven mains cry so much and keep saying that she is balanced because she ir really hard to play, when she really isn't
Though I agree with most choices, I fell You're missing Anivia, Gnar and Nid.
I agree with the Anivia, Gnar and Nid should be somewhere in there instead of tf. But I have got to disagree with thinking Riven isnt hard. Sure you can pull off the combos in custom games but in ranked can you srsly do it without a fault in a high pressure situation?
Kevin Yang I play Riven ocasionally. I'm just saying that, her basic stuff is actually pretty easy to pull off, even in ranked, just 30-1hour of practice in a custom, then a few games and you're good to go. The hard part is learning every single combo and trick she has, but really, most of these are actually useless (if you drop a ward behind you during third Q you will hit the Q behind you while moving the other way for example). People focus so much into these tiny tricks and think that Riven is hard because of it, when in fact, I really think Cassio takes a LOT more skill for example, where you need extremely good positioning, know when to ult, know when poison are going to tick off and stuff like that. Riven for me is Easy to pick up, but hard to master completely.
Kevin Yang ... why do riven players always say she is hard to play?? like she do her combo in a teamfight and wallah your enemies are gone good good good
Ok then tell me 1 thing, can *you* even pull off the combo in a team fight with cc being thrown at you when you go in? And the thing is I dont even main riven cause I play adc mostly but if I do play riven it is hard to pull off a combo with the animation cancels because lets say they have a annie on the enemy team so the annie can easily stun you once you go in and wallah your dead.
Kevin Yang There is no combo to save you from annie, there is wait for her stun. There is flanking. Riven will just Flash WQ ult people and if not kill them, drop them to 70% more or less, then annie can stun, if she isn't dead.
The moment i saw Riven i couldnt take the video seriously
Bronze 5 on br? HUEHUEHUE
Everyone says "Riven is Ez Champ" wait wait, I mean "people who haven't used Riven yet"
Average lol player in a nutshell
youfuzzi HD heres another one
You clearly have no idea how difficult it is to properly do the animation cancelling combos and use her at her full potential. And make no mistake, Riven is easy to pick up and understand, but hard to truly be good at her tbh.
So, Yasou and Vayne are harder to play than Azir? What kind of list is this???!?
Vat with has very weak early game I bronze
Ginger Bread Uh huh.....?
RADFoe
I don't know dude.... He's so different compared to the other champs that you kinda have to forget how to play your average champion, and learn how to play Azir
If we're talking about learning curve, I'd say yes on Yasuo because it's so easy to overshoot with his E, get the right reaction time for his W, and lookout for other teammates's knockup when you're new to playing him. But skill curve is an entirely different story, though both Azir and Yasuo have high skill ceilings.
As for Vayne, she's not easier than Azir in this video. She's 3 places below.
and apparently riven too
"Twisted fate does not have a very high dmg kit" proceeds to 2 shot someone...
Im surprised you didn't add champions such as Vel'koz or Xerath. They are both skill shot bases
+SassyRiolu because with champions like velkoz success isn't rare His kit is very forgiving and even if he falls behind he can just ult in a team fight and walk away with triple. Velkoz is actually easy to play being a skill shot based champion does not mean its hard champ same goes to xerath
+SuckerKiss he sure is much harder to pay than vayne and yasuo that were on this list
Primpan okay vayne yeah vayne is easy but yasuo there are some aspects you need to be good at, reflex and reaction also good timing.
+SuckerKiss After playing around 10-15 games with Yasuo you start to get used to his mechanics but he is hated because of his wind wall (8/10 mid laners are ranged) and his double crit chance which grants him huge damage. Now if he is so hard to play then why is he banned in almost every ranked?
Also saying tf has low damage?! My friend mains him (around 50k points on TF) and almost one-shots in mid to late
+SuckerKiss I just can't play with Vayne, :´( she's hard as hell.
this may sound weird. but I'm only "good" when I play azir. I find him soooo fun to play. the mechanics were so obvious for me to pick up. but I can't play cho or Darius. pls brain that's not how it works..
i main azir too but man help me a little... i got perma in my dia.and i bought for 5 euros a bronze one but how can carry with azir? items? suggestions?
+Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς I've got a montage on my channel . if you're playing on euw you can add me :)
+Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς lol you payed yourself up to B1,youre so bad XD
Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς Last time I checked she wasnt, maybe next time think of something more original that mom jokes
+Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς actually, you need professional help.
this is a joke right?
I only say this because you value the ability to right click/time condemns on vayne higher than you do bard.. not to mention riven's even on the list, animation cancelling and all, riven was 1000x easier to master than Alistar or Janna. But that might be just because you didn't really feature any high tier supports other than thresh which everyone loves...
***** Righhhhhhhhhht...
***** nop, supports are terribly hard too play becouse you have too balance youre gold income ,hit ridiculus knockups like janna and alistar, shield in the right time in the right way(braum) and not too menchine youre kind of shittin' right now, adc vayne is the most ridiculus adc ever ,in teamfights : Click R and auto.... condemn into a wall if not just keep auto-ing :) (basic vayne combo)
***** then i guess youre not a very good supp if you think its just landing skillshots ^_^
Ilija Milutin ... Which is why I quit responding to him.. lol.
Kindred is so forgotten that it didn't even make it here in this list.
Orianna, Zed, Syndra?
Shaco?
+Stalker lel shaco is ez
oh sure
yeah i taught that zed would be in no.3 or 2....but why zed not in the list??..its hard to play zed
+Sksks Sjsjjs fuck no....kata,zed,yasuo and riven are the easiest...no fingers needed
So, where the hell are anivia and alistar at? Please don't tell me that yasuo's crazy ult and wind wall and Riven's bullshit faceroll combo are harder to use than abilities that if messed up can even hurt YOUR OWN TEAM. Not a bad vid for the most part, but questionable choices.
Mimi The HolyPudding Riven is hard champ. Easy to play ( in bronze and silver ) but hard to master. She is a faceroll champ, but perfecting her combos is hard, also she has very bad time now on top lane. There are many matchups that is difficult even for a skilled riven vs an unskilled enemy.
MMOplayeerr it's called hard champions to PLAY. Not master. Even then there are harder champions to master rather than riven
Mimi The HolyPudding a average yasuo game yasuo uses his ult 3 times, why you complaining. btw thats a fact
Jordan Albee Exactly this. Fucking finally someone gets it
Jordan Albee
You are wrong then. Yasuo isnt hard to play, but hard to master. First time silver yasuos do 10/0 in silver rankeds, becaouse you dont need skill to use Q and 1 hit crit the enemy. Yasuo has a very trong kit for beginner people. He has mobility, His passive and W can make him win trades that he shouldnt win and, so he isnt that punished for bad plays.
Riven as a thumbnail 😂😂😂
Διαμαντή Μαλάνος Are you saying that RIven is easy to pull off?
yes
Διαμαντή Μαλάνος i facepalmed too dude
This is my top five skilled champions
5.Elise (Outplay potential)
4.Cassiopeia (need to be able to kite)
3.Gnar (need to animation cancel and kite)
2.Vladimir (when to W and when to go in)
1.Master yi (need to be very good at right clicking and spamming Q and master 7)
any tf mains here or am I the only one like always
Here o/
i got the underwolrd tf skin from a box u got for buying a legendary skin... i was so happy :D
i main tf
He's my primary mid pick, so I guess.
Hey men any tips for tf?
_70% of the comments here, Yasuo and Riven are so easy!_
_30% Listing out their own top 10_
im 100% sure orianna is missing in this list
not really
+RumbellyXP Yes really. :l
the pain of uncontrollably catching axes of draven always puts me into a bad situation hahahaha
Draven? Really?
I play him only by free rotation and I get from A to S+.
Same
Funny how they are nerfing Azir to the ground.
Ricky T. he is just too strong on a competitive level atm
I know I just wish a champ that has the fifth lowest winrate in soloq wasnt getting nerfed. And i know of course that winrate isnt everything but i do beleive if they are taking the knockup away, he should be able to just go through the target, so he can get to the backline.
I just started playing him q_q rito gemz y u do dis
Ricky T. ikr -_- no more shield on his e....riot listen to me THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON AZIR COULD BUMB IN ENEMY CHAMPIONS TO GET A SHIELD AND OUT TRADE HIS OPPONET JEASUS
Well, taking away the knockup and lowering his q damage is also gonna hurt :P
Tbh they only 3 champions on this I can agree with would be Lee Sin, Draven and Cassiopeia, and in the end I don't even agree with their positions on the list.
As someone who is an active player of Vayne, Yasuo and Riven (Yes I'm actual cancer I know, but idgaf).
The only one out of the 3 I would say is actually hard too play as Riven.
Animation cancelling is a fucking annoying mechanic too get used to, whilst it's not exactly that impossible to do, it is very fucking annoying to learn how to do perfectly.
The only reason people think she is so broken is because she has such good scaling, that when she gets fed it's so easy to just destroy people who don't know what they're doing.
Fun fact, Riven sucks at pushing towers.
Vayne is in such an amazing spot right now I don't see any point of her even being on this list, tbh the only time I would have considered her truly difficult is when her W dealt True damage and not Percentage.
Her damage is fucking out of this world at the moment and it's pretty amazing
Yasuo is an odd case. He's not exactly easy, but I picked him up first try and did extremely well. Tbh, even though I'm someone who ADORES the champion, he just has a stupid amount in his kit that can be exploited. I can knock up, kite, outplay all I want when I have minions, and even when I don't he has really good base damage. The minion dashing can be annoying and against certain match ups (Fuck Annie), he can be very tedious to play.
Lee Sin is kinda soso, but tbh I just don't think he's really any good in most situations.
There are honestly just a lot of champions who are better choices then him.
Sure I can ward hop, flash and kick the enemy ADC into my team, or I could just play Annie, tibbers Ult, Q, W and get a triple kill. I think a lot of the champion is just needless fucking around and an excuse to try and look cool.
The reason lee is there is because he has the highest skill ceiling in the game. For example, when he ult, the target is rooted for 0.25 secs, and good lee sin players flah behind during that time, to insec. (You probably know this). A really good lee can carry a game better than a good Annie, just because her kit isn't a kit well made for a team comp. Lee is more flexible, whereas Annie demands a team built around her for the best result.
DaReel Fish
I understand why Lee was on the list.
My point just lies that whilst Lee can hard carry, his kit is a lot of uncessary fucking around. They can do a lot but a lot of it is very situational. As far as it goes a good lee can carry a game the same as an average Xin Zhao.
Whilst you are right 100% no doubt., Annie cannot carry games nearly as well as Lee (Towers am I right), they don't need entire teams built around them for the best result, they just need a decent ADC and a supbar tank.
Annie was an example as a champion with like 2 tricks.
I think azir deserved his spot as well
If you master Lee Sin, it becomes easy to like insec or carry. You just need a lot matches with him so you can understand his mechanics.
I'm a genius with an iq of 185 this is why i play yasuo mid lane like a boss.
AHAHHAHA😂😂😂 rly good
+Tronald Dump I highly doubt that...
+DCFanatic7 its a joke...
Why all bronzes says: yasuo is noob champ? Use sometimes brain... with all champions u need skill to play it or u can't do nothing.
Jakub Tvardik because he noob and i played him first time in ranked and i got 37 only pressing Q and E
have u ever heard of master yi?
Yasuo literally has 3 ways to negate misplays,windwall,winshield and boneplate(If he uses it)
windshield is down after taking damage, so if you proc that before going into battle you stand a bigger chance, his W has a 24 second cooldown. and can be baited out fairly easily. boneplating is OP and should honestly be nerfed
So my best pick rumble is not in the hardest champion in LoL.
rumble should be at rivens spot :)
+Lennart Bartels or Orianna :P
ThePig HUE
or nidalee :D
yeah.
+dave espina he put riven and lee cause all thier skills require perfect timing the only hard thing about rumble is his ult the rest are just point and click spells and btw i suck with rumble
Lol there are no easy champions in league, even the dumbest mechanic character such as Garen, Master Yi or Ashe has it’s weakness and counters, which still makes them hard to master. I really wonder which rank u are Jeremy cause this video straight up sucks, if ur in the master or even challenger then y’all understand that there is no CHAMPIONS too hard. There’s only PLAYERS THAT MAKE YOUR GAME hard.
Cant wait to see all this bronzes complaining about Vayne, Riven and Yasuo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
xd, for low elo noobs they believe that if an champion have more dmg and more mobility is easy .
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 im silver and I don't
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 It it easy as Yasuo in low elo to get kills though. The enemy team s brain dead and dodging isnt a thing. Also standing still is a strat
D5 riven one trick here gotta admit riven is broken that’s why you rarely see bronze silver gold rivens cause they already ranked up
Well, vayne is braindead af. But yasuo and riven aren't at all.
So... yasuo is harder than zed?! Or azir?! What?? On my second game with yasuo i got like 3 pentas... he would be hard if riot deleted his critical chance passive...
Hiekka Pappa nice bronze elo bro
i cant play both yas and Zed but imo zed is alot harder , all his abilities need to be combo'ed perfectly , unlike Fizz where i can just Kamikaze into the enemy and take him out below his turret
yas atleast can jump around fast
Yasuo is kinda hard...but not as hard as Zed or Azir! Sorry
I agree Yasuo is so easy to use. And Azir or Zed are probaly the most hard champions in the game.
Alfredo Cardoza aurelion hello?
This video is old af but I just love seeing salty comments from people who were probably recently shit on by these champions in the right hands.
"Super difficult"
"Micromanage"
"Extremely difficult"
"Micromanage"
"Significantly important, significantly weaker significantly hard"
Jesus expand your vocabulary holy shit
PopcornBunni jesus doesn’t need to expand his vocabulary, he is god.