I think Colby did an excellent job giving testimony. His answers were perfect and he didn't give more information than was asked and did not get angry or upset or let the lawyer twist his words. I'm praying for his healing.
@@crashde5995 just because the charges were dropped didn’t mean he didn’t do it. His ex wife felt bad for him because of his mother but he admitted in court he did it.
@@brendanalexcurran3429did you actually see the details? It's not as you are implying. This young man has been under the most unbelievable pressure for 4 years now and his wife understands that. You're right, he's not so innocent anymore- of course not, his innocence was destroyed from the moment Alex killed Charles and she lied from the get-go saying he had a heart attack. He's owned what he did ( unlike his mother) and has asked for forgiveness. His testimony is all the more believable because we know he's real and able to recognise right from wrong. I wonder how perfect you are because I know I'm not.
He has forgiven her and prays for her. He has a true loving spirit. I hope he and his wife and kids are back together. This whole situation has to be extremely difficult to live with. He has a huge heart. It has been badly broken. But he has forgiven. A true Christian if there is such a thing. Or so it seems.
@@bevtrue6937 Did you watch today's court testimony? We watched and noted zero forgiveness. Why should he forgive? He has every right to feel betrayed by the one entity on this planet that should of never turned there back upon him....his mother!
Hearing the call was chilling and made me cry harder than all the betrayals so far. As the mother who would find it unbearable to hear my sons broken heart over actions I caused? I’d be out of control sobbing if I’d broken my sons heart like that. Ugly cryin. Poor dear young man. Hurt forever. Alone. 😭
Well, you have empathy. She doesn't. And that's the key difference here. Empathy is what gives people their humanity. Lack of empathy is what allows people to do monstrous things.
I really worry about Colby's mental health now and in the future. How on earth do you ever come to terms with what happened. I have so much sympathy for him.
She definitely implied that she knew about the murders but thought that were excusable. There is no way you can convince me she didn’t know before during and after the murders. I hope there is an afterlife so she can fry in hell.
@@sallycinnamon5370 Whether the murders were a calling from God or whatever excuse she uses, it's still murder. In the phone call, she implicates herself to knowing and being there. The conspiracy to murder charge is easier to prove. The murder charges are a bit tougher because Lori and Chad's defense are pointing to Alex as the murderer but she puts herself as to "knowing" and "protecting" everyone who doesn't need to know. She implicates herself to murdering Kylee and JJ
What makes me the saddest is that I think that Lori may never even regret or feel sorry for her actions, she is so deluded. I’m sad they can’t put her down. I don’t think she is legally insane…she knew what she was doing is wrong because she knows she had to hide it. But she is definitely the most dangerous type of zealot.
I think she believed and still believes that she had the right to do whatever she wanted. She hid what she did only because she didn't want to be caught. She has self indoctrinated herself so deeply she thinks she's right about everything.
But it’s good for Colby that he could testify without the added burden of helping to end his mother’s life. For his sake, not hers, that psychological burden on top of the loss of his whole family at her hand would just be enormous.
I agree! She is such a malignant narcissist. Except I dont think she believed in zombies at all. I think she knew she was lying and is a master manipulator who wanted more power and followers. She had been at the center of toxic family dynamics for years. You were either for Lori or you were "dark." Once she started calling people that, they knew their lives were in danger. She is a serious threat to society.
@@Sail392 You know, you are so right, i never thought of "no death penalty" as a blessing for Colby to lighten his torture. That thought will help me accept the "no death penalty" idea a bit more easily. Thank you for that thought.
Poor Colby. He showed up for Tylee when nobody else did. Lori is evil. The way she gets angry when confronted and the “sorry you feel that way” mask drops.
Lori’s favourite phrase that she opens with on that call “im sorry YOU feel that way”…such a narcissist. That really means…”im sorry for myself you don’t believe me” lord forgive if she ever has remorse..i highly doubt she’s actually capable of real remorse.
@@mtaylor7307 yeah you hear it in that..she is the master of projection and deflection. She appears to give a crap to those unaware of manipulating phrases like that but its really about her. Even when she says to chad “can i do something for you? “..on that prison phone call, thats not her wanting to do something, thats her way of pumping him for more information without coming right out with it coz she knows shes being recorded. He knows he is recorded too..its interesting to note that not once does either say..”oh well they can look out there, got nothing to hide, did nothing wrong, kids are fine elsewhere” …no…innocent people would say that..Lori would have said “oh that’s ridiculous, you have nothing to worry about” but no, she doesn’t and you can practically hear by his voice he is crapping his pants.
@@Guitarbarella Exactly! Lori could be convicted using her recorded phone calls alone. Also, on this call Lori claims that JJ and Tylee loved her. She never says that she loves or loved them. She only talks about how she was there for them when nobody else was. Only after that 100+ day of hospital stay for pancreatitis, Lori fed Tylee junk and fast food. Same with JJ a special needs child allowing him to have soda for breakfast.
She's not a witch, dear. Witch means MEDICINE WOMAN.. and Lori is NOT invested in healing, Lori is invested in DEATH, and since she's RELIGIOUS.. you can lay responsibility of her insanity towards her RELIGION. Im a witch, dear.. we don't murder children, and we don't eat them. Those are lies told to the human race, by religious murdering misogynists... centuries ago. And YA'LL STILL BELIEVE IT.. because ya'll religious... just like Lori.
The heavy weight and the eyes of people that Colby had to and is still enduring. I'm hoping he is receiving professional counseling to overcome the stress and shock.
At that time, and maybe still now, she believes her own lies to herself that she is a translated being and those kids had to die because they were "dark". She's clinically insane I believe, but thank God she can't plead insanity in Idaho.
I wish people would stop saying she was a "good mom" and making excuses for her inappropriate behavior in court. Shes a malignant narcissist. It can take years for their kids to realize and understand the emotional neglect they suffered. Either you were for Lori or she was going to destroy you one way or another. It was Lori who first suggested people were "dark," just like she did to Melanie on that call. Everyone knew their lives were in danger when Lori called them that. She tried to kill Tylees dad years before she murdered Charles. What Tylee was going through in that last year was horrific and terrifying. Lori didnt believe in zombies and those kids weren't in the way of her affair. Tylee was a witness. When Loris babysitter for JJ was now dead, JJ was in the way, but she couldve returned him to Kay. But Kay had to be punished for getting that insurance money. Witnesses and the prosecution need to stop handing her an insanity defense. She sits there and laughs because she is devoid of empathy and is as dangerous as she always was.
That she stole an adult males phone and her minor daughter came out with a bat to defend her indicates just what you said. Then her brother executes him. If I'm picking this up correctly. He was basically trolled by the entire household, with them redefining reality along the way, then killed. Yes, the crazy making, neglect, and abuse from this woman has been deeply toxic long before this...
@@loverainthunder exactly. Lori was at the center of extremely toxic family dynamics. She wanted followers for more attention and power to continue to have power over and control others who "worshipped" her. You can hear how much she would lie, threaten and gaslight people on that call with Melanie. Lori turned her whole family against Charles, (or anyone who talked to Charles) including Tylee. She turned Tylee against all family who could help her, like her uncle Adam who knew Lori was trying to kill people. Tylee was watching JJ while Lori was socializing all day at Temple and "praying" for Charles and JJs deaths with this group. Lori then abandons Tylee with Alex for months (no one has given a clear picture of what Lori was doing but I think it was her affair). Lori then comes back because Charles was threatening to expose her affair and get her kicked out of the temple. Then Lori has Charles murdered right in front of Tylee and gets Tylee to lie to police about it. Lori then runs off to Rexburg, and I believe Tylee had to drive herself there. When Tylee finally started questioning Lori, Lori started telling her friends Tylee was "dark." Lori had already tried to kill Tammy and Brandon and did kill Charles by calling them "dark" and doing her "castings" on them. Tylee would have known her life could be in danger but had nowhere else to go but back with uncle Alex. She was a witness and Lori demanded total loyalty. Then when JJ was too much work without Tylee there, she planned a podcast and had her friends wave "goodbye" to JJ in the pjs he would later be found in. Those people are her "alibis." She chatted about being a goddess and probably smiled and laughed just like she is doing in that courtroom now, knowing he was being murdered in that moment. Neither of those kids were in the way as she had no problem abandoning them before. She had no reason to kill them except the fear Tylee coud tell the truth and she was way too vindictive to let Kay have JJ back. Lori also wanted to keep cashing those SSI checks.
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I’m sorry but there is a big difference between being religious and being insane. Lori ‘may’ be religious but I do not believe she is insane. She made choices every step of the way to do these things. So I do not want these people let off the hook. People can be confused into thinking they are insane because of religious beliefs but no. I was raised in a very religious home with things that seem crazy to outsiders mentality but we all know right from wrong and have freedom of choice.
Never forget this fact: Lori was in Hawaii with Chad, legs spread, consecrating their marriage; while her children's decaying corpses were rotting away in the shallow grave of her lovers Pet Cemetery. This is true. Whether you want it to be or not. At least that is true. How disturbing and sickening 😢
My heart goes out to Colby. He has lost his entire family. He did an incredible job being a voice for his siblings on the stand. 💗 I am sending Colby strength, prayers, and positive vibes. 💞
I've listened to this call 5 times with my earbuds on as I couldn't believe what I was hearing, especially her laughing when he said something about her committing Blasphemy....Each time I heard this 12 min call, the tears were flowing fast and my heart began to break. My son hasn't spoken to me in 20 yrs, very VERY heartbreaking as I've not done wrong, its complicated...but I love my son with all my heart and I'd give anything just to have a son like Colby and have the love he had in his heart. I've promised myself that I will pray for Colby until the Lord calls me home. This is so wrong on every level and yes...LORI is a monster w two scoops of insanity, but glad there's no way for her to plead insane. I think Judge Boyce made a horribl WICKED mistake by removing the Death Penalty off the table as if there ever were a need for the DP...its THIS CASE. Judge (ha!) Boyce....you seriously MESSED up by taking the DP off Daybells case.
BTW....maybe JUST MAYBE, Arizona will do what should have been done in this case and SHE will receive the Death Penalty so Lori Daybell and Jodi Ariass won't be drawing Rainbow Unicorn Ponies for her family to sell online.
Zelda Zelda has had trauma in her life. Until you've walked in her shoes, you aren't going to understand. Sorry for your son not loving you and I hope he changes his mind and returns to you like the Prodigal son did.
Amazing how Lori can even sit through that phone call and listen to it and watch her son on the stand. I really believe she sold her soul to the devil so she is beyond thinking like a normal person would. I hope her son can understand that and find his own peace, knowing that everyone of us has choices to make and they will have to live with them.
She didn't sell her soul to anyone she is a narcissistic human who wants everything her way and used religion to make herself feel superior. She's just another cultish human with issues.
The more we continue to express shock and disbelief and denial that these monsters exist, the more we will fail to see them. They count on our failure to believe in their existence, so they can play us with their charm, their looks, their manipulation. Vallow is extreme but there are so many others.
The fact she gathered up so many followers is horrifying. There are hundreds of disciples of Dumbells teachings. They are just laying low for a moment. If he gets the chair. There will be "sightings" and messages from that loser. These people are NUTS!
Thanks to everyone who is working to keep us in the loop. Continuing to pray for justice for the victims. Lori said to Colby she doesn't care if people judge her. Hope she's aware that 12 people are about to do that shortly. May God give them the wisdom to see through the nonsense justifications and hold folks accountable for these murders.
The poor boy lost the only father he ever knew, his sister and brother which you can tell he loved and now his mother. She took it ALL from him. My heart truly breaks for him.
@@deniseblackburn33 I hope I am wrong but having a captive audience of bored women and then this professional duper. I hope the prison will be paying attention.
Colby has lost his stepfather, sister, brother, and wife (separated or divorced). His mother is gone (touched)...can understand why he would be so angry
The judge did it out of an abundance of caution because her defense team said it wouldn't have time to review a bunch of new evidence in time for the speedy trial Lori demanded (as is her right).
Phone call was everything. He courage to confront his mother and show who she really is will probably be one of the most impactful pieces of evidence to come before this jury. Family members of murder's especially family killers have my deepest sympathy. The pain of loosing family and then loosing the relationship they thought they had with the killer is a double wound. I hope someday he is able to find peace.
How her family still stand by her is beyond me. They killed two kids and it's like it never happened. That woman needs putting in a box and throw that box into the ocean. She'll never admit it so take everything away from her not just her freedom.
The most telling thing that came out of Lori's mouth on that phone call, to her son, was when he told her he would have taken them, that he would have raised them, that he wanted them, and she says "ohhh, you all say that now". No If nothing else seems to point at her part in the murder of two of her children, that statement right there. And not onliy that, she with that statement seems like its his fault because he didn't want to help with the kids, and he even tells her she didn't give him the chance to take them as she didn't even offer them to him. She proved on that call, she didn't want to take care of them, so they had to die. I hate her, so deeply hate that selfish psychopath, witch.
Great point. She is basically admitting that she had to take measures into her own hands because noone helped her. J.J. had a special school, a Dad, a sitter, a comfort/disability dog, a loving sister, meds to keep him calm and Lori took it all away one by one. She made it impossible for Colby or Kay to contact her after that. For that alone she should get death for cruelty.
@@kitandsons173 And take note that Chad didn't lose a single kid of his own, he didn't have to raise any, and didn't want to raise hers. And as of their last interview, his kids think Lori and Alex Framed Chad..... Where I come from, what we call what she was doing is fornicating.
Lori acts like Casey Anthony in court. Both acted jovial while the trials move thru hideous evidence. Lori will not be so happy when the verdict comes in. Justice must serve these two children.
I listened to that recording not knowing the context, that it was being played to the court. When I realized the sound of crying was Colby, I felt heartbroken for him. The betrayal and devastation he must feel is overwhelming to even imagine. 😭
I hope one thing to be gained from this lesson/experience is mothers commit crimes and can’t hold everything together. If you had a nurturing mother give her a hug physically or mentally. Mother’s are not super heroes and make mistakes just like children/fathers do. We are not to judge.
It’s absolutely heartbreaking that His Mother had his Stepfather killed and his 2 Siblings it’s unbelievable such evil. I pray these 2 Murderers get life imprisonment without possibility of parole
“They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.” John 16:2 KJV
That species is not a human. He needs to be reminded that very sad, heartbreaking that a thing like it calls itself a mother, no words for that species.
The woman on the left had Chad's sister in law on her podcast awhile back who talked about Chad's craziness but also spent time putting down Tammy, which came off as disrespectful and tasteless.
I don’t remember her putting down Tami. My take away was she was an honorable person. It was really long though. Could have missed something. What did she say that was critical?
Absolutely unbelievable of her, words fail me how heartless she is.well done Colby you and your brother and sister deserved a better parent than that monster 😢
Wow, that description of Lori Vallow laughing and smiling sounds like the description of Diane Downs dancing to Hungry Like the Wolf in court. Worst look ever for a mother, much less a defendant.
He has a voice for his siblings thank the lord. He talked to her like he should have. He believed in her now he knows she not telling the truth and really doesn’t say anything about his siblings and his mad like he should be. I hope he finds his what he needs to heal and have peace May his siblings Rest In Peace
The Mic drop for me was when Lori says something like “the kids know what happened and they still love me”….. Do you need any more proof than that for a conviction that she was involved. The defense didn’t want to cross examine because this was the most damning evidence yet. They wanted to get away from this testimony as fast as possible. Sorry…….the jury will not soon forget Lori’s calloused laugh! The best punishment for Lori would be for her to realize what she allowed and encouraged to happen was not for the children’s good. I don’t know if she’s capable of admitting it to herself but I really hope it happens. It would be a burden for her far worse than the death penalty!
Such a sick woman. when he said " blasphemy"& she giggled i think it was the devil himself laughing . Thank God for Colby's sanity& faith in God& he had been thru so much i pray for him. i liked when he said he wanted to hit chad dumbbell in the face with a shovel i don't blame him at all!
I know of a person that said they didn’t have normal emotions like others do. I do not buy into that. I think they just don’t want to admit wrong and NEVER will admit wrong. I hope that Colby understands that this is not the love that God has. This is a lie conjured up by two of the sickest people I have heard of. Colby…stay who you are and don’t turn off the Lord because of what your mother and her husband did. Those children are in heaven now. Unless your mothers confesses the sin in her life to the Lord and asks Him to forgive her and come into her heart and save her…she won’t ever see heaven. The children are exactly where they need to be now. They are safe in the arms of the Lord. I am so sorry you have lost your family.
Colby seems respectful, smart, caring- complete opposite of the piece of shit he had to publicly state was his mother- You know, I would be a great mom, I know soooo many woman who would make AMAZING mom’s. She was so lucky to be able to have kids and look what she did! Some woman, would LOVE their child(ren) more than anything or anyone else, put their child(ren) before their own life- and they are not given the opportunity to be a “mommy”. Then you see a thing like Lori “piece of shit” Vallow- who tells her son “one day you’ll understand” about killing his siblings. I would give anything to be a mom. she makes me sick, and I hope she’s surrounded by “zombies” everyday, and NEVER finds peace. I hope that the most dangerous prisoner is always going after her and she’s scared to death everyday, maybe then she can experience a tiny bit of the fear her kids had the day/night she and Chad killed them.
You could always adopt. Giving birth is not the only option. Lots of little kids out there in need of a mother. Even could be a big sister to help kids in need of love.
My heart hurts for Colby and the grandparents so much! I can't even imagine what he is suffering....1) to have that monster as a mother 2) losing his siblings at her hands and 3 having to testify against her while grieving. I am not sure I could have had the same courage and composure he showed.I don't believe the sincerity of Lori's tears for one second, the only thing that she regrets is that she and Chad got caught!! How sick do you have to be to to text your son posing as his sister when you already know she is dead! I hope she and Chad get locked up forever
How anyone can believe what these Morons believe is beyond me, but then again look at all of the people defending the Dalai Lama’s “kiss my tongue” incident. Some people can be so conditioned by perversion, it blinds them to being able to see the truth. It makes me wonder what is at the core of their beliefs?
I dont think Lori is insane. I think she is just evil. When she found out Kay had the money, she decided payback by killing the kids was going to be her revenge.
I heard that. Classic. I prefer schlub. Lori and Chad deserve an effigy burned of them. It would be cathartic. The psychopath schlub and malignant narcissist Barbie.
This reminds me of when my mother told me, "Someday you'll understand when you have sons of your own". Still don't understand. What I do understand is that there are parents that will go to extreme lengths to protect, and or kill, disable, or disempower, their children...grandchildren... and others... and will use "love" and their "religion" as their defense. Literal psychopaths.
Nobody will ever be able to make sense of LV, everything is irrational and not the norm. Sometimes you will never get all the answers to make it make sense in your mind.. so sad for the victims 😪
Lauren makes an excellent point. Lori has very likely dissociated herself from all of this and, IMO, truly believes the reasons, stories, and excuses she has been telling for years.
I mostly see crime or weather events on here, but, so far I see familiar faces and maybe this is the fact driven old school news we have all been looking for.
I think Colby did an excellent job giving testimony. His answers were perfect and he didn't give more information than was asked and did not get angry or upset or let the lawyer twist his words. I'm praying for his healing.
Well said. This poor young man, broken, has lost so much 😢. My heart TRULY breaks for him...
@@christinawelsh3417 did you hear that he sexual assaulted his ex wife? He’s not so innocent anymore
All charges were dropped. Look it up.
@@crashde5995 just because the charges were dropped didn’t mean he didn’t do it. His ex wife felt bad for him because of his mother but he admitted in court he did it.
@@brendanalexcurran3429did you actually see the details? It's not as you are implying. This young man has been under the most unbelievable pressure for 4 years now and his wife understands that. You're right, he's not so innocent anymore- of course not, his innocence was destroyed from the moment Alex killed Charles and she lied from the get-go saying he had a heart attack.
He's owned what he did ( unlike his mother) and has asked for forgiveness. His testimony is all the more believable because we know he's real and able to recognise right from wrong.
I wonder how perfect you are because I know I'm not.
His 'mother' took everything from him. His father figure, brother, sister and a mother's eternal love. A selfish disgusting monster 'mom'.
@@arosem7142 Good one! I'd pay to see that scrag fight.
He has forgiven her and prays for her. He has a true loving spirit. I hope he and his wife and kids are back together. This whole situation has to be extremely difficult to live with. He has a huge heart. It has been badly broken. But he has forgiven. A true Christian if there is such a thing. Or so it seems.
@@bevtrue6937 Did you watch today's court testimony? We watched and noted zero forgiveness.
Why should he forgive? He has every right to feel betrayed by the one entity on this planet that should of never turned there back upon him....his mother!
@@bevtrue6937 In a post testimony news bite outside the court, it appeared his wife was with him.
And yet claims she did it because god and his angels told her to
Hearing the call was chilling and made me cry harder than all the betrayals so far. As the mother who would find it unbearable to hear my sons broken heart over actions I caused? I’d be out of control sobbing if I’d broken my sons heart like that. Ugly cryin. Poor dear young man. Hurt forever. Alone. 😭
I can't believe that it's a first time.
Well, you have empathy. She doesn't. And that's the key difference here. Empathy is what gives people their humanity. Lack of empathy is what allows people to do monstrous things.
Oh please that's not true is it, your just talking bull shit saying it made u cry WHAT A FKING LIE stop it, u don't even know them so STOP BEING FAKE
Was disturbing and hard to hear so sad
@@m0L3ify best comment ..
Poor Colby, this case is INSANE! It literally gives me the creeps. It sounds like a smart jury though! Fingers crossed 🤞
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I really worry about Colby's mental health now and in the future. How on earth do you ever come to terms with what happened. I have so much sympathy for him.
Oh so Lori says "you don't know" "you weren't there" so she knows what happened BECAUSE she was there. Is that an implication?
Exactly
She definitely implied that she knew about the murders but thought that were excusable. There is no way you can convince me she didn’t know before during and after the murders.
I hope there is an afterlife so she can fry in hell.
@@sallycinnamon5370 Whether the murders were a calling from God or whatever excuse she uses, it's still murder. In the phone call, she implicates herself to knowing and being there. The conspiracy to murder charge is easier to prove. The murder charges are a bit tougher because Lori and Chad's defense are pointing to Alex as the murderer but she puts herself as to "knowing" and "protecting" everyone who doesn't need to know. She implicates herself to murdering Kylee and JJ
As if there is ANY explanation that would make the murder and backyard burial of her children okay
@@julie8936 Right!! The gaslighting. 😢
What makes me the saddest is that I think that Lori may never even regret or feel sorry for her actions, she is so deluded. I’m sad they can’t put her down. I don’t think she is legally insane…she knew what she was doing is wrong because she knows she had to hide it. But she is definitely the most dangerous type of zealot.
I think she believed and still believes that she had the right to do whatever she wanted. She hid what she did only because she didn't want to be caught.
She has self indoctrinated herself so deeply she thinks she's right about everything.
But it’s good for Colby that he could testify without the added burden of helping to end his mother’s life. For his sake, not hers, that psychological burden on top of the loss of his whole family at her hand would just be enormous.
I agree! She is such a malignant narcissist. Except I dont think she believed in zombies at all. I think she knew she was lying and is a master manipulator who wanted more power and followers. She had been at the center of toxic family dynamics for years. You were either for Lori or you were "dark." Once she started calling people that, they knew their lives were in danger. She is a serious threat to society.
@@Sail392 You know, you are so right, i never thought of "no death penalty" as a blessing for Colby to lighten his torture. That thought will help me accept the "no death penalty" idea a bit more easily. Thank you for that thought.
If she doesn’t regret or feel sorry, then she is clinically insane.
Poor Colby. He showed up for Tylee when nobody else did. Lori is evil. The way she gets angry when confronted and the “sorry you feel that way” mask drops.
Lori’s favourite phrase that she opens with on that call “im sorry YOU feel that way”…such a narcissist. That really means…”im sorry for myself you don’t believe me” lord forgive if she ever has remorse..i highly doubt she’s actually capable of real remorse.
She has zero empathy for Colby and his loss.
right, as if the way he feels is foreign. she's all about herself i think she's only capable of loving her self that's it
She used that same line on that call with Melanie Gibb.
@@mtaylor7307 yeah you hear it in that..she is the master of projection and deflection. She appears to give a crap to those unaware of manipulating phrases like that but its really about her. Even when she says to chad “can i do something for you? “..on that prison phone call, thats not her wanting to do something, thats her way of pumping him for more information without coming right out with it coz she knows shes being recorded. He knows he is recorded too..its interesting to note that not once does either say..”oh well they can look out there, got nothing to hide, did nothing wrong, kids are fine elsewhere” …no…innocent people would say that..Lori would have said “oh that’s ridiculous, you have nothing to worry about” but no, she doesn’t and you can practically hear by his voice he is crapping his pants.
@@Guitarbarella Exactly! Lori could be convicted using her recorded phone calls alone. Also, on this call Lori claims that JJ and Tylee loved her. She never says that she loves or loved them. She only talks about how she was there for them when nobody else was. Only after that 100+ day of hospital stay for pancreatitis, Lori fed Tylee junk and fast food. Same with JJ a special needs child allowing him to have soda for breakfast.
Forced to accept his mom is a TRUE witch👿.
Colby’s anger was palpable. Colby defined “righteous indignation “ today.
She's not a witch, dear. Witch means MEDICINE WOMAN.. and Lori is NOT invested in healing, Lori is invested in DEATH, and since she's RELIGIOUS.. you can lay responsibility of her insanity towards her RELIGION. Im a witch, dear.. we don't murder children, and we don't eat them. Those are lies told to the human race, by religious murdering misogynists... centuries ago. And YA'LL STILL BELIEVE IT.. because ya'll religious... just like Lori.
The heavy weight and the eyes of people that Colby had to and is still enduring. I'm hoping he is receiving professional counseling to overcome the stress and shock.
This was definitely one of the more poignant moments from this trial!! Lori was very flippant and defiant in this call with Colby! It was disgusting!!
At that time, and maybe still now, she believes her own lies to herself that she is a translated being and those kids had to die because they were "dark". She's clinically insane I believe, but thank God she can't plead insanity in Idaho.
I wish people would stop saying she was a "good mom" and making excuses for her inappropriate behavior in court. Shes a malignant narcissist. It can take years for their kids to realize and understand the emotional neglect they suffered. Either you were for Lori or she was going to destroy you one way or another. It was Lori who first suggested people were "dark," just like she did to Melanie on that call. Everyone knew their lives were in danger when Lori called them that.
She tried to kill Tylees dad years before she murdered Charles. What Tylee was going through in that last year was horrific and terrifying. Lori didnt believe in zombies and those kids weren't in the way of her affair. Tylee was a witness. When Loris babysitter for JJ was now dead, JJ was in the way, but she couldve returned him to Kay. But Kay had to be punished for getting that insurance money. Witnesses and the prosecution need to stop handing her an insanity defense. She sits there and laughs because she is devoid of empathy and is as dangerous as she always was.
That she stole an adult males phone and her minor daughter came out with a bat to defend her indicates just what you said. Then her brother executes him. If I'm picking this up correctly.
He was basically trolled by the entire household, with them redefining reality along the way, then killed.
Yes, the crazy making, neglect, and abuse from this woman has been deeply toxic long before this...
Oh so she was punishing Kay. 😨
@@loverainthunder exactly. Lori was at the center of extremely toxic family dynamics. She wanted followers for more attention and power to continue to have power over and control others who "worshipped" her. You can hear how much she would lie, threaten and gaslight people on that call with Melanie.
Lori turned her whole family against Charles, (or anyone who talked to Charles) including Tylee. She turned Tylee against all family who could help her, like her uncle Adam who knew Lori was trying to kill people. Tylee was watching JJ while Lori was socializing all day at Temple and "praying" for Charles and JJs deaths with this group. Lori then abandons Tylee with Alex for months (no one has given a clear picture of what Lori was doing but I think it was her affair). Lori then comes back because Charles was threatening to expose her affair and get her kicked out of the temple. Then Lori has Charles murdered right in front of Tylee and gets Tylee to lie to police about it. Lori then runs off to Rexburg, and I believe Tylee had to drive herself there.
When Tylee finally started questioning Lori, Lori started telling her friends Tylee was "dark." Lori had already tried to kill Tammy and Brandon and did kill Charles by calling them "dark" and doing her "castings" on them. Tylee would have known her life could be in danger but had nowhere else to go but back with uncle Alex. She was a witness and Lori demanded total loyalty. Then when JJ was too much work without Tylee there, she planned a podcast and had her friends wave "goodbye" to JJ in the pjs he would later be found in. Those people are her "alibis." She chatted about being a goddess and probably smiled and laughed just like she is doing in that courtroom now, knowing he was being murdered in that moment.
Neither of those kids were in the way as she had no problem abandoning them before. She had no reason to kill them except the fear Tylee coud tell the truth and she was way too vindictive to let Kay have JJ back. Lori also wanted to keep cashing those SSI checks.
@@Elevendyeleven OK wow. She's a total and complete narcissist. And her daughter knew what was coming. 💔
@@loverainthunder Makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about what she put them ALL through, including the people still alive but sooo tortured.
The way she laughed at him as he was pouring out his pain trying to make sense of it all was just pure evil on her part.
My heart goes out to Colby Ryan. That call between him and Lori was heartbreaking. Thank you Lauren and GiGi for being so informative.
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I’m sorry but there is a big difference between being religious and being insane. Lori ‘may’ be religious but I do not believe she is insane. She made choices every step of the way to do these things. So I do not want these people let off the hook. People can be confused into thinking they are insane because of religious beliefs but no. I was raised in a very religious home with things that seem crazy to outsiders mentality but we all know right from wrong and have freedom of choice.
"YOU weren't there", "YOU don't know" seems to mean "*I* was there" and "*I* know"
Exactly!!
EXACTLY my thoughts😈
Her soul obviously left her body a long time ago. Only an evil vessel remains
Indeed, who is the real zombie here
Never forget this fact: Lori was in Hawaii with Chad, legs spread, consecrating their marriage; while her children's decaying corpses were rotting away in the shallow grave of her lovers Pet Cemetery. This is true. Whether you want it to be or not. At least that is true. How disturbing and sickening 😢
You put it so well. I honestly think she IS insane.
My heart goes out to Colby. He has lost his entire family. He did an incredible job being a voice for his siblings on the stand. 💗 I am sending Colby strength, prayers, and positive vibes. 💞
I've listened to this call 5 times with my earbuds on as I couldn't believe what I was hearing, especially her laughing when he said
something about her committing Blasphemy....Each time I heard this 12 min call, the tears were flowing fast and my heart began to break.
My son hasn't spoken to me in 20 yrs, very VERY heartbreaking as I've not done wrong, its complicated...but I love my son with all my heart and I'd give anything just to have a son like Colby and have the love he had in his heart. I've promised myself that I will pray for Colby until the Lord calls me home.
This is so wrong on every level and yes...LORI is a monster w two scoops of insanity, but glad there's no way for her to plead insane. I think Judge Boyce made a horribl WICKED mistake by removing the Death Penalty off the table as if there ever were a need for the DP...its THIS CASE.
Judge (ha!) Boyce....you seriously MESSED up by taking the DP off Daybells case.
BTW....maybe JUST MAYBE, Arizona will do what should have been done in this case and SHE will receive the Death Penalty so Lori Daybell
and Jodi Ariass won't be drawing Rainbow Unicorn Ponies for her family to sell online.
What? He did? Sad..
@@da574 Something is wrong w you to have posted that mean comment. I can also draw assumptions regarding the type of individual that would do so.
@d a good insight... I'm surprised I didn't pick up on that as I've dealt with people who do heavy impression management 😅 in the past.
Zelda Zelda has had trauma in her life. Until you've walked in her shoes, you aren't going to understand. Sorry for your son not loving you and I hope he changes his mind and returns to you like the Prodigal son did.
Amazing how Lori can even sit through that phone call and listen to it and watch her son on the stand. I really believe she sold her soul to the devil so she is beyond thinking like a normal person would. I hope her son can understand that and find his own peace, knowing that everyone of us has choices to make and they will have to live with them.
Lori wanted RICHES without a job. She wanted her man to be no longer married and she wanted no more children to take care of here on earth. 🤮
Don't blame Satan she was doing Jesus' work. Who are you to question Jesus?
It's the mormons...wierd cult
She didn't sell her soul to anyone she is a narcissistic human who wants everything her way and used religion to make herself feel superior. She's just another cultish human with issues.
The more we continue to express shock and disbelief and denial that these monsters exist, the more we will fail to see them. They count on our failure to believe in their existence, so they can play us with their charm, their looks, their manipulation. Vallow is extreme but there are so many others.
The fact she gathered up so many followers is horrifying. There are hundreds of disciples of Dumbells teachings. They are just laying low for a moment. If he gets the chair. There will be "sightings" and messages from that loser. These people are NUTS!
Heartbreaking 🥹 Home run for Colby!
Oh, and don't forget Lori's other emotion;( when the evidence is just too REAL for her to face), she SLEEPS!( and gets away with it for 30 minutes)!!
She has been turned over to a reprobate mind!
Thanks to everyone who is working to keep us in the loop. Continuing to pray for justice for the victims. Lori said to Colby she doesn't care if people judge her. Hope she's aware that 12 people are about to do that shortly. May God give them the wisdom to see through the nonsense justifications and hold folks accountable for these murders.
Amen. 🙏
Poor Colby
Her gaslighting her own son irritates me like no other - and then she LAUGHS. Smh
Colby was a true warrior in this call 👏🙏
The poor boy lost the only father he ever knew, his sister and brother which you can tell he loved and now his mother. She took it ALL from him. My heart truly breaks for him.
evil crazy people disassociate and have incongruent demeanors often in court. They're scary people if they do this.
She's one of them...
When she says you weren't there that to me is an admission on her part that she was there when they were murdered
Just lock her up for life, she DID deserve the "Death Penalty", and some how weaseled out of the that,her son Colby is a amazingly strong man
I still am shocked she's not getting the death penalty and even more that she want it
@@deniseblackburn33 She is going to convert that entire prison. This weird story is in no way far from over with this menace.
@kitandsons I never thought of that wow
@@deniseblackburn33 I hope I am wrong but having a captive audience of bored women and then this professional duper. I hope the prison will be paying attention.
Colby has lost his stepfather, sister, brother, and wife (separated or divorced). His mother is gone (touched)...can understand why he would be so angry
I can’t believe that they took the death penalty off the table!
The judge did it out of an abundance of caution because her defense team said it wouldn't have time to review a bunch of new evidence in time for the speedy trial Lori demanded (as is her right).
He's lucky to be alive. He could have been targeted at any moment.
Phone call was everything. He courage to confront his mother and show who she really is will probably be one of the most impactful pieces of evidence to come before this jury. Family members of murder's especially family killers have my deepest sympathy. The pain of loosing family and then loosing the relationship they thought they had with the killer is a double wound. I hope someday he is able to find peace.
How her family still stand by her is beyond me. They killed two kids and it's like it never happened. That woman needs putting in a box and throw that box into the ocean. She'll never admit it so take everything away from her not just her freedom.
They not really standing by her anymore
Nobody is in court supporting Lori.
The most telling thing that came out of Lori's mouth on that phone call, to her son, was when he told her he would have taken them, that he would have raised them, that he wanted them, and she says "ohhh, you all say that now". No If nothing else seems to point at her part in the murder of two of her children, that statement right there. And not onliy that, she with that statement seems like its his fault because he didn't want to help with the kids, and he even tells her she didn't give him the chance to take them as she didn't even offer them to him. She proved on that call, she didn't want to take care of them, so they had to die. I hate her, so deeply hate that selfish psychopath, witch.
Great point. She is basically admitting that she had to take measures into her own hands because noone helped her. J.J. had a special school, a Dad, a sitter, a comfort/disability dog, a loving sister, meds to keep him calm and Lori took it all away one by one. She made it impossible for Colby or Kay to contact her after that. For that alone she should get death for cruelty.
@@kitandsons173 And take note that Chad didn't lose a single kid of his own, he didn't have to raise any, and didn't want to raise hers. And as of their last interview, his kids think Lori and Alex Framed Chad..... Where I come from, what we call what she was doing is fornicating.
The Netflix documentary has lots of interviews with Colby. Highly recommend the documentary to understand what is happening now.
Lori's attitude always has been, "but I AM special
Colby , his wife and family have had their lives turned upside down in this very tragic case .
Lori acts like Casey Anthony in court. Both acted jovial while the trials move thru hideous evidence. Lori will not be so happy when the verdict comes in. Justice must serve these two children.
Losing a sibling under any circumstance is extremely traumatic, especially even more under neglect, abuse, murder...
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I listened to that recording not knowing the context, that it was being played to the court. When I realized the sound of crying was Colby, I felt heartbroken for him. The betrayal and devastation he must feel is overwhelming to even imagine. 😭
Her emotions change on a dime because she's acting. She's a psychopath and that's what they do because they don't have deep emotions.
I hope one thing to be gained from this lesson/experience is mothers commit crimes and can’t hold everything together. If you had a nurturing mother give her a hug physically or mentally. Mother’s are not super heroes and make mistakes just like children/fathers do. We are not to judge.
The difference between Colby's reaction and Buster's to their parents basically decimating their entire family is striking. What does buster know?
It’s absolutely heartbreaking that His Mother had his Stepfather killed and his 2 Siblings it’s unbelievable such evil. I pray these 2 Murderers get life imprisonment without possibility of parole
i am sure Colby is wondering why she spared him? prob bc he lived on his own
So sad, thank you Gigi and Lauren’s reporting.
“They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.”
John 16:2 KJV
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I really feel for Colby. Must be awful for him.
That species is not a human. He needs to be reminded that very sad, heartbreaking that a thing like it calls itself a mother, no words for that species.
Ironically, she is the actual, possessed zombie in this nightmare.
The woman on the left had Chad's sister in law on her podcast awhile back who talked about Chad's craziness but also spent time putting down Tammy, which came off as disrespectful and tasteless.
I don’t remember her putting down Tami. My take away was she was an honorable person. It was really long though. Could have missed something. What did she say that was critical?
Tragic that the death penalty is off the table.She is evil...My heart hurts for Colby..😢
Heartbreaking 💔 prayers for him
Absolutely unbelievable of her, words fail me how heartless she is.well done Colby you and your brother and sister deserved a better parent than that monster 😢
Wow, that description of Lori Vallow laughing and smiling sounds like the description of Diane Downs dancing to Hungry Like the Wolf in court. Worst look ever for a mother, much less a defendant.
Jesus is Not on the side of those who use His Name to Deceive, Murder and cause pain! She is totally the snake queen of deceit!!
Son nailed it. This is NOT God,'s will
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Stephen King couldn't write this crazy...... nobody would believe it..
He has a voice for his siblings thank the lord. He talked to her like he should have. He believed in her now he knows she not telling the truth and really doesn’t say anything about his siblings and his mad like he should be. I hope he finds his what he needs to heal and have peace May his siblings Rest In Peace
The Mic drop for me was when Lori says something like “the kids know what happened and they still love me”…..
Do you need any more proof than that for a conviction that she was involved.
The defense didn’t want to cross examine because this was the most damning evidence yet. They wanted to get away from this testimony as fast as possible. Sorry…….the jury will not soon forget Lori’s calloused laugh!
The best punishment for Lori would be for her to realize what she allowed and encouraged to happen was not for the children’s good. I don’t know if she’s capable of admitting it to herself but I really hope it happens. It would be a burden for her far worse than the death penalty!
Such a sick woman. when he said " blasphemy"& she giggled i think it was the devil himself laughing . Thank God for Colby's sanity& faith in God& he had been thru so much i pray for him. i liked when he said he wanted to hit chad dumbbell in the face with a shovel i don't blame him at all!
That's a demon.
Not only is she laughing in court she’s flirting with one of her lawyers. Disgusting.
Heartbreaking
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Why is the trial not televised??
I know of a person that said they didn’t have normal emotions like others do. I do not buy into that. I think they just don’t want to admit wrong and NEVER will admit wrong. I hope that Colby understands that this is not the love that God has. This is a lie conjured up by two of the sickest people I have heard of. Colby…stay who you are and don’t turn off the Lord because of what your mother and her husband did. Those children are in heaven now. Unless your mothers confesses the sin in her life to the Lord and asks Him to forgive her and come into her heart and save her…she won’t ever see heaven. The children are exactly where they need to be now. They are safe in the arms of the Lord. I am so sorry you have lost your family.
Colby seems respectful, smart, caring- complete opposite of the piece of shit he had to publicly state was his mother-
You know, I would be a great mom, I know soooo many woman who would make AMAZING mom’s. She was so lucky to be able to have kids and look what she did! Some woman, would LOVE their child(ren) more than anything or anyone else, put their child(ren) before their own life- and they are not given the opportunity to be a “mommy”. Then you see a thing like Lori “piece of shit” Vallow- who tells her son “one day you’ll understand” about killing his siblings.
I would give anything to be a mom. she makes me sick, and I hope she’s surrounded by “zombies” everyday, and NEVER finds peace. I hope that the most dangerous prisoner is always going after her and she’s scared to death everyday, maybe then she can experience a tiny bit of the fear her kids had the day/night she and Chad killed them.
You could always adopt. Giving birth is not the only option. Lots of little kids out there in need of a mother. Even could be a big sister to help kids in need of love.
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so disturbing that she is laughing... sickening
My heart hurts for Colby and the grandparents so much! I can't even imagine what he is suffering....1) to have that monster as a mother 2) losing his siblings at her hands and 3 having to testify against her while grieving. I am not sure I could have had the same courage and composure he showed.I don't believe the sincerity of Lori's tears for one second, the only thing that she regrets is that she and Chad got caught!! How sick do you have to be to to text your son posing as his sister when you already know she is dead! I hope she and Chad get locked up forever
How anyone can believe what these Morons believe is beyond me, but then again look at all of the people defending the Dalai Lama’s “kiss my tongue” incident. Some people can be so conditioned by perversion, it blinds them to being able to see the truth. It makes me wonder what is at the core of their beliefs?
Brilliant observation.
I dont think Lori is insane. I think she is just evil. When she found out Kay had the money, she decided payback by killing the kids was going to be her revenge.
He called Chad Peter Griffin 😂😂😂
I heard that. Classic. I prefer schlub. Lori and Chad deserve an effigy burned of them. It would be cathartic. The psychopath schlub and malignant narcissist Barbie.
Lori Vallow lives in denial but she will be held accountable
You can't reason with a serial killer.
That laugh was the end of her, game over.
Not today, not ever will anyone understand, it’s unfathomable
Where is the call? Is there an actual recording available
It has been uploaded on the “Hidden True Crime” channel.
"""one day you'll understand. ""
...my insanity
She is a psychopath. Her laughter on the call was inappropriate and evil.
She is GUILTY as hell
Vallow’s downright weird.
Praying for strength for Colby! 🕊
Colby's life is destroyed now peaple will accosoate him as her son .this man is BRAVE Grassing her up 😢
This reminds me of when my mother told me, "Someday you'll understand when you have sons of your own". Still don't understand. What I do understand is that there are parents that will go to extreme lengths to protect, and or kill, disable, or disempower, their children...grandchildren... and others... and will use "love" and their "religion" as their defense. Literal psychopaths.
When was that call? Before that end of days prediction? I wonder how diff this call would have been if after?
They use to call this ''possession''
Nobody will ever be able to make sense of LV, everything is irrational and not the norm. Sometimes you will never get all the answers to make it make sense in your mind.. so sad for the victims 😪
Lauren makes an excellent point. Lori has very likely dissociated herself from all of this and, IMO, truly believes the reasons, stories, and excuses she has been telling for years.
Lori not human
I mostly see crime or weather events on here, but, so far I see familiar faces and maybe this is the fact driven old school news we have all been looking for.
Evil is Evil
Her train is so far off the track, she doesn't even think she did ANYTHING wrong.