The Truth About Vegan Pet Food
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- Опубліковано 18 січ 2021
- There have been a lot of debates in recent years on if dogs, as well as cats can thrive while being fed a plant-based food. What do you think?
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I never understood why vegans don’t just get an herbivorous pet like a rabbit or a bird. You don’t want your pet to eat meat? Don’t get a carnivore like a dog or a cat🤷🏻♀️
bird do need bug like mealworm and rabbit too
@@doglover-xg1kh i think most people wouldn't have a problem with that tho
@@doglover-xg1kh rabbits doesn't need bugs? They're completely herbivorous. And there's certain bird species that are herbivorous
I mean, can't argue with that!
@@swedishdogs3327 for rabbit they do eat bug but not intentionally some time these bug get into there food like the grass or the plant they eat I should been less vague.
This is so good! I've been vegan for 7 yrs now but my pup eats raw. While I understand the dilemma of being vegan and owning a carnivore. I would never try to feed my dog/pet something they are not designed to eat.
Same but I'm vegetarian. I believe it would be selfish to make them vegan/vegetarian. It's wrong.
But why are you vegan though, just like your pet's, your natural diet is carnivorous(as in humans should get over 20% of their calories from animal based sources)
You should look into a carnivore or raw carnivore diet, or at least something similar, and I'm not talking about idiots like Shawn Baker but people who actually know about micro nutrients..
I suggest you check out the books:
The fat of the land, by Vilhjalmur Stefansson
and
Nutrition and Physical degradation, by Weston A. Price
Props for not starving your pet though, I respect that, idk how there are so many vegans that feed their cats and dogs plants, it's insane, how dense can one be
THANK YOU! You’re a good vegan!
Same! Vegan myself and raw for my cat!
I have so much respect for vegans who feed their pets raw. You guys are awesome
This is an amazing argument, because usually I would just yell at someone that their animals gonna get sick but you calmly put down the facts, and supported them.
That's what I try to do! It's the only way to (maybe) get through to someone on the other side.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 right , she sounds so calm
Yelling never works... As a vegan, I fed my dogs Vdog for about a year, and before changing their diets, I checked with 3 different vets. I had multiple blood tests and was given the good to go. All their allergies were gone, and they thrived for a while... But, the more research I did, the more I learned about their needs. I can tell you from the bottom of my heart as a 10 years+ vegan, most vegans (that have been vegan for more than a few years) do not feel the need to push our morals nor believes to anyone, we respect everyone's right to do what they wish. I love my babies, and I will do right by them, even if that means preparing food that makes me physically ill.. I think after years of not smelling meat in my kitchen, my body was not prepared for the smell😮💨😮💨. But they come first, so here we are learning... 🤓🤓🤓
I have no idea why your account isn’t bigger as your quality of content is AMAZING!! I enjoy all your content and it helped me take the plunge into raw feeding and help to educate others hoping to take the jump as well. Thanks for being awesome!!
As someone who has NEVER ate meat in her whole life or brought it into my house, I feed raw to my cat because I know the term biologically appropriate.
Thank you for being a great pet owner and respecting a cats diet. 😊
@@chichirinuriko20 aww thank you! Of course. I care a lot about my cat and want him to live long and healthy life
You're AWESOME
@@PawsofPrey thank you so are you for making these videos!
Thanks for respecting the dietary needs of a carnivorous animal despite being a vegan or vegetarian. :)
Honestly I just don't understand why vegans care so much about herbivores and so little about carnivores, or chose to actively disrespect their nature.
You know....what a great point lol.
It would be a good point if dogs were actually carnivores. They are omnivores.
@@yesbevegan5585 Well cats are carnivores!
@@yesbevegan5585 facultative carnivore
Because some of them simply have a one track mind they think everyone and everything should be like them if you put a bowl of meat and a bowl of potatoes in front of a dog which one are they going to go to
Thank you for posting this because it’s actually highly unethical to feed vegan food to cats!
Absolutely!
Thank you so much for this video because I have been wondering about this!
You are so welcome!
Thank you, love your videos! I wish there was videos like this for my diet lol
I have been reading a raw feeding book and talk all about this and how different animals bodies are designed to consume different foods.
What’s the name of the book? :)
@@joohoneypoo4060 It is called Why you Need to Feed your Dog a Raw Food Diet By: Amy Marshall
Very true! Amy is a great resource for me
ThatVeganTeacher needs to watch this video and rethink having her dog Bella on a Vegan diet since 2017... As a vegetarian myself who wants to be vegan for ethical reasons I would never force this onto any of my pets. I want to get a dog in the future, maybe within a year or so and I plan on giving it a raw diet because I know that is most natural and in captivity our pets rely on us to make the best choices for them as they can't.
I hope it reaches her!
When I heard she feeds her dog vegan, I was furious! I hate her so much!!!!😤
“What’s to be vegan” loooool
What a wonderful work you did for this video ! Thank you :)
I'm a vegetarian but I know what my pets need. I would never hurt them like that. I cooked for my kitty for most of her life once I found out about kibble. She would only eat cooked but she thrived on it. My parents would laugh at the vegetarian cooking up a big pan of meat in the kitchen lol. But I'm willing to give them what they need I may be able to be healthy without meat but they can't.
Happy birthday matsu!!! I was just wondering if I feed wheatgrass, does that mean that I don’t have to give any oysters for zinc, mussel for manganese and vitamin e oil? Kinda sounds too good to be true lol. And any wheatgrass brands that u recommend? Loved the video btw!
Raw Vita boost has wheatgrass in it. That is What I feed my dog. It also has chlorella and coconut oil so that is a plus.
Raw vitaboost is great for aiding in zinc, but even the company themselves said the zinc found in the mix may vary, so they don't even market it for filling nutritional gaps, really. As far as wheatgrass powder, I have heard good things about Anthony's Organic
@@PawsofPrey thanks!
I just love it! you're amazing!
Great video! Very informative👍I feed my 3 yr old shiz tzu home cooked breakfast and raw patties for dinner. She has loose stool towards the end. Wondering if you can provide any tips on that please?
Another amazing video!!! Thank you for your help with my picky guy. Switching to ground solved the picky problem and he happily eats everything now :-)
Oh great to hear!
Great video, as always!
Thanks again!
Thank you for making this video! It gave me greater insight to grain-free dog food and helped me understand the potential links to DCM. I just finished watching your other video "How to improve your dog's kibble" and realized that I already do 9/10 suggestions! I recently bought a dehydrated raw food for my puppy. The ingredients are pretty simple (white fish, lentils, carrots, apples, sunflower oil, seaweed, apple cider vinegar, pumpkin, cranberries, spinach, calcium, ginger, turmeric, phosphorus, vitamin E) but I am concerned that lentils is the second ingredient listed. What is your opinion?
I know I am not the person you are asking, but if you'd like to read my take on it, here goes.
I'm moving an older cat from kibble toward raw, and myself from ignorant trust in the pet food industry to being more aware.
I don't like legumes in any form whatsoever in my carnivore's diet, with the exception of I tolerate a small amount of alfalfa or clover, because that's likely to be found in the stomachs of the prey they'd be hunting. But it isn't likely at all that mature lentils, chickpeas, and beans/peas are going to be in there. And as a 2nd ingredient.... Pretty dismaying.
But if I get a can that has something in there I didn't realize wasn't great, I forgive myself and go ahead and use it up, while looking for something better.
My senior cat is doing better, learning to eat more naturally without having to have artificial attractants sprayed on her food!!! YAY! Her canned food is now completely pea-free and potato free, mostly muscle meat but I'm not scared by some by-products, because those by-products will be things she'd get in the wild. I'd rather have a few meat by-products than any peas/lentils/beans, period.
My advice is to use up what you have while you continue to learn and look for something without lentils or any kind of pea. And I think you are great.
FANTASTIC video!
Thank you very much excellent video 👍
You are very welcome
Great vid!
Thanks!
The best channel 🙌🙌
where do you learn all of this information from? did you go to school or did you read some books that I could have access to?!
Would be great to see a review of big country raw dinners. Question where do you feed some of your raw bones ? E.g my puppy doesn't like to eat the chicken neck off a bowl and I trained her to eat off a mat. Curious to know how you feed some of these chewy items
Sometimes I hand feed, sometimes I just give it on a mat and let him chew there!
Just another amazing video.
Thanks again!
My dog is vegan and thriving 😊
Hey do you recommend a book that also has some good recipes for the raw food diet of my cat?
There are a lot of great books that help you understand the raw diet better, and there are also certified nutritionists that can formulate a meal plan for you. Raw Pets Rule and Perfectly Rawsome are 2 great ones!
Excelente video!
Thanks!
Okay so i cant do a homemade raw diet for my cat, however i still want the best for him. Do you have any store bought raw food recommendations? I'm also considering feeding my cat a mix of wet and dry food and i was wondering if you had any recommendations for thise as well?
A+ Answers is my top pick for a premade raw! For wet, Natures Logic.
Hi, I wanna ask if a dog is a picky eater what can you do to help? My friend's dog has a serious case of picky eater and caused her dog to vomit more than a few times
Thank you!!! Dogs are facultative carnivores, cats and ferrets are obligate carnivores
Why feed a vegan diet they can't thrive on? Why lower their quality of life?
(Also dogs have not moved evolutionary far enough away from wolves in their digestive capabilities to be omnivores, they are STILL facultative carnivores)
My fave website is raw feeding veterinary society, that have moved away from kibble sponsored education to take a biology based approach in their veterinary philosophy
Would you please tell me about Lungs are they considered muscles or organs?your answer is very important.
Why is vegan pet food so discouraged while kibble is not. I consider it to be in the same category as extremely processed and synthetically sourced food
agree the amount of meat in most kibble it may as well be vegan
Right, kibble is the worst.
Just for curiosity as I have seen new studies and research which dispute this theory. I have not came across any which show any harm to the animals but in some aspects benefiting such as decreases in liver disease while on a vegan diet.
If you're interesting the one i am referring to it is BMC veterinary research.
fun fact: the big cats who have been seen eating fruit frequently test for kidney issues when captured for medical check-ups. the theory I've most heard is that the fruits they're eating tend to help kidney problems and the cats are drawn to it because of that, but it's still very much theory.
Well that's interesting. When looking into it I never found any followup. Do you have the sources by chance? I'd love to read about it
@@PawsofPrey I'll get in contact with the zoo vet who had the deets, but I dunno how long it'll take. This comes from a 2012 study, I know that much. Might help to narrow it down. It was primarily seen in Amur Leopards iirc.
Hi great video. I can't feed raw but want to do the best for my cat he is on a grain free wet food made up of 95% meat or fish but I was wondering is grain free food better than food with grain thanks
This video is saying, I think, that a problem with grain-free is that it often contains legumes, rather than good organ meat.
Look for grain-free that is not filled with potatoes, sweet potatoes, tapioca, and legumes like peas and beans.
Grain, and legumes, and potatoes, are inappropriate to feed to carnivores. So don't be fooled by cans that trumpet GRAIN-FREE but stick in legumes. Grains and legumes are cheap, so the company is making more money off of the GRAIN-FREE hype when the consumer does not also reject the legumes and potatoes that get stuck in there instead of the grain.
How will you guarantee that cats aren't constantly contracting Ecola from meat???? Cats bodies don't require urinary infections, do they?
I'M A VEGAN AND I FEED RAW:
It makes me extremely upset to see some vegans force their diets onto their pets. When you get an pet like a cat, dog, or a ferret - you're signing up for a life of feeding them a biologically appropriate diet. To not provide them with that is ANIMAL CRUELTY which, if your reason behind being vegan is to "save the animals", is extremely hypocritical. If you are a vegan and want a vegan pet, there are options out there for you! Don't make your animal suffer to make yourself feel better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I an disgusted by the vegan pet community. Do better.
I seriously commend all vegan raw feeders, you guys are awesome ╥﹏╥ couldn't agree more
Thanks for not forcing your lifestyle on your pet. I really appreciate it!
I’m vegan and would never force a carnivore to consume a vegan diet. That’s isn’t vegan.
This is a very controversial topic.
But what is more cruel? To feed our pet a “natural” diet, letting dozens of farm animals to be tortured and killed for our whim to have a carnivore pet? Or to try so spare their lives, at the cost of some potential health problems, maybe even premature death?
Many would argue that the health of your pet should be your first priority, but what about all the other innocent beings that dit nothing to have such horrendous lives? I think the solution is to at least try vegan pet food, which in the latest and biggest study proved to be even healthier on many aspects of cats’ health.
bmcvetres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12917-021-02754-8
This could be because normal pellets are not the natural cats’ diet. They are leftovers of the meat industry.
@The Kid Who Likes Cute Things did you make the switch gradually? If they always eat meat and suddenly his organism finds no more animal protein, he’ll have a hard time producing the compound amino acids. They should learn how to create those from the 9 essential amino acids in plants if the process from 0 to 100% vegan is done during 2 months or so.
You are a great girl doing all researchs to enlighten people to take care of their pets,thanks.
Ethically sourced carnivore-like diet is far more ethical for both humans and your carnivore pets than any vegan diet...
Absolutely! For humans I believe in a mix of both, but we are a pretty versatile species as far as diet goes.
Legumes are in grained food, too. Nutro, Purina, etc. They're all over the friggin place. It blows.
YEP :|
Yazz TYY
As a vegan, it never EVER crossed my mind to make my animals go vegan. Not even my rats were vegan. Every now and then, I put egg into their diet. I've always believed that true vegans not only understand what animals need but will actively go above and beyond to give a truly enriching life for the animals they have. It makes my stomach turn when I hear "my dog is on a vegan diet," and my heart breaks when some has a cat on a vegan diet. True vegans UNDERSTAND animals NEEDS! Isn't the reason going vegan is to end animal suffering, not to create it yourself.....
I’ve been wanting to switch my 8 month old kitten to raw food for a while now. If he licks us after eating could any potential bacteria be transferred to us?
There's always a chance for anything. If your kitty licks you RIGHT after eating maybe just wash it to be safe, never hurts!
@@PawsofPrey I’ll keep that in mind then, love ur channel btw!
my dog sleeps in our bed & is very licky no illness here , though if your immune compromised dont allow licking
Can you talk about cat grass? (Wheat grass?) Is it wrong? We've already fed our kittens cat grass. I'm just trying to provide them more variety than wet canned food. And I'm not smart enough to venture into raw feeding, but am binging your channel about it. Peace! ✌️
Cat grass is great! I feed my cat a wet/raw diet but I also grow some cat grass for her. Sometimes, cats would eat a bit of grass to help digestion so I just leave catgrass out all the time. As long as your kitten is still eating meat as the main part of their diet, it's ok.
there was a study that showed vigorously exercised dogs on a vegan diet vs a meat based diet had damage to their blood. the dogs that are meat didn’t
Very interesting! Do you have a link to this?
Great video thanks. Ive been vegetarian for 50 years, I was put off meat at 4 years old, when I learned it came from animal. My pets on the other hand have always eaten fresh meat I cooked myself. My dog recently passed away aged at least 18. Ive just brought a pup home and today he had raw for the first time....and loved it!
May I ask what the furry thing on the plate of meat in the video is? cheers
Looks like a rabbit foot
You have been vegetarian for 50 years but kept buying meat-eating pets in that time? Why?? You don't want to eat animals but are okay with lots of animals dying so that one pet you have can live.
@@mchobbit2951 Wrong! Ive NEVER bought a pet. They landed with me from desperate situations over the years. I buy meat, (not dog food), that's been as ethically farmed as possible. I also feed them small game my husband shoots (to feed himself). Ive never bought into the pet food trade, I do my best. So save your sanctimonious lecture. They also have fresh fish. I certainly dont 'keep buying animals!' But Im not gonna turn my back on a stray abandoned dog cos its a carnivore!
@@veilbreak5867 Still no reason to straight up buy meat meant for human consumption. Get roadkill and leftovers from family that eat meat instead of supporting the meat industry then. If you really are vegetarian (I feel like you eat meat, honestly. I somehow doubt that a lifelong vegetarian would marry a hunter of all people), you'd know that THERE IS NO ETHICAL MEAT. You can keep telling yourself that there is to keep the guilt away, but there isn't.
Also, why exactly is that one carnivore worth saving and all of the animals you feed it and then have to die aren't? Because it's a dog, right?
my dog eat raw un coocked swrat ptatto are he in anger pls answer
Great video! I always thought dogs are omnivores like us, but they're carnivores?
If they get an adequate nutritional intake then it's fine, there are existing plant based pet feed that derive essential nutrients in a digestable form for them, from plant based ingredients. We have the technological means to make this possible. We shouldn't have domesticated or bred them to begin with though. Veganism isn't a diet, it's an ethical obligation and philosophy.
I definitely believe that dogs need meat, but finding out about Bramble the 25 year old dog and Guinness record holder being vegan got me curious for sure.
Edit that was a old record, Bluey lived to be 29, but still 25 is long by any standard for a dog.
This is an amazing argument! I'm going to write an essay for school about the vegan diet for dogs and how it's not suitable for dogs. And I recently read an article that stated an insect based diet is an completely balanced diet. But that seemed quite questionable to me. Do you know something about the insect based diet? It would really help me out with my essay🙂
awww a mini schnauzer! best dogs ever! If a vegan wants to only give vegan dog or cat food they shouldnt own a dog period.
Can cats eat avocado?
No! Avocado is poisonous dogs, cat, birds etc. Specially birds will die if ingested.
But there are many nutrients other than protein like menirals and vitamins.
Yes that's right! I go over all of the bioavailable vitamins and minerals (that dogs and cats need, and that raw diets easily provide) here: ua-cam.com/video/xf8Y6E-qOmM/v-deo.html
I wish I had found this video earlier. I have found others. Vegan cat owners are adament that their cats are healthy. Most conversations I have about vegan diets for cats, they simply stop responding.
But there are many people claim that their dogs are in better health after eating fruits and vegetables and they live longer.
What about that vegan dog that lived to be 25 years old in the UK?...
What about my grandfather who lived to 95 smoking a pack of Marlboros every day?
@Dark Galaxy There are exceptions to every rule.I've lost over ten family members to cancer from smoking and my great grandfather made it to 91 on cigars... He was the one out of 1000 that made it to that old of an age anyways though. Every single omnivore on the planet seems to live way longer when it is fed nothing but a well balanced plant diet, this fact is not exclusive to humans or dogs either...
@@cmichaelwestad52 Why is my grandfather the exception & the vegan dog not?
Exactly, herbivores like us, humans, aren't meant to eat other animals. 3:12
Vegan Pet Food? Back in my day we just called it Animal Abuse
Couldn't agree more my friend.
Back in the day? I call it animal abuse NOW.
But what do you call it when animals get killed at a fraction of their lifespan so you can eat them? For you people "animal abuse" only exists when it concerns pets, but not farm animals.
@@mchobbit2951 It's called nature. Been that way for more than 500 million years. Literally just nature. Why are you so against the natural order?
@@ASpinoNamedSpike Nature would be if you went outside and hunted all of your meat. Factory farming is so far removed from nature that it's not even funny. Also "nature" is brutal and humans always act as if they are above other animals. Practice what you preach?
The thing abt feeding carnivore animals vegan is not abt the plant protein or whatever it self it’s bc carnivore stomach are not long enough to have the time to digest plant nutriments
Another amazing video. Sometimes I supplement with a so called high quality kibble but the top non meat ingredients are lentils and beans or rice or potatoes... 😩
Just gotta do what you can
This girl is no joke!
This is what comes from decades of putting personal opinion/beliefs on a pedestal above learning about science, specifically biology and evolution in this case.
There are other terrible results of that practice as well, so I'm not just picking on vegans here.
We MUST learn that fact is more important than feeling...
Interesting but my dog is 15 and a 1/2 years old. I've had him his whole life and hes been eating vegan his whole life.
damn, i thought beef was a neutral protein so i got a lot of beef-based things for my doggo. he has a skin allergy that im trying to manage w/ diet. maybe i should try pork instead...
Hey, I had a similar issue: many dogs I know react bad to pork and beef. We tried lamb, fish or chicken and it worked better for us ☺️
@@selinablue7498 mm yeah i think i just have to keep testing out different proteins for him :///
Worth a shot to switch to other proteins and see!
@The Kid Who Likes Cute Things luckily, he does really well on pork! also doing well on duck and he's done lamb before. i think, after much trial and error, we've found that turkey, lamb, pork, duck, and fish work. chicken is also fine for treats. absolutely no beef or venison 😆
I have a relative who went vegan years back and sadly put her dog on a vegan diet as well. ☹️
It sounds like something my sister would do. 😶 She's vegan, as is her husband. They've been raising their son vegan since birth. He's nearly 3. I'm just ecstatic he's alive and healthy.
But I'm just a puny obligate omnivore. 😐
@@sketchur ecstatic? If they plan it properly and don’t give their son just fruits, a vegan diet is healthy in all stages of life.
@@hechss Nope, the organization that said that is bought and paid for by a religious cult that thinks eating meat is a sin.
The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (or The American Dietetic Association as they are the same organization) wounds founded by Seventh Day Adventists and their position paper does not follow a vegan pregnancy through birth past the infant stage of life. They also do not have any studies on Vitamin K or Carnitine.
Additionally all other National diet organizations have the exact opposite stance. Due to the deficiency risks of these diets it’s not recommended for pregnant and lactating women or children.
@@kimmiewise1044 deficiency’s in what?….
Taken from a comment I responded to:
1. GI foods - Its a ratio of fiber to supplied carbs, or speed of digestion. Rice and potatoes are staples in the human diet entirely bc of energy density, and in poorer countries, often paired with seriously fibrous foods. This is 101 of how food digestion works.
2. Metabolizing energy - first off, comparing dogs to the set of cats and ferrets which are literal obligate carnivores, and entirely discarding modern biochemistry, totally misses the differences and relative context. No argument to be made because I imagine most people have common sense to understand how a cat is kinda different to a ferret, and dually with dogs.
3. Carnivora. Pandas and Red Pandas are Carnivora. Darwinism is about survival of the *fittest*, not most *fit*. Even in fiction, the premise of idiocrasy which drives home the basic point--fitness precedes mechanistic inference. Group up your datapoints, dogs are clearly not wolves as much as boiler chickens are not jungle fowl. A chihuahua is not a wolf. Common sense. Different story if you have a literal wolf as a pet (which.. surprise surprise hasn't lived for thousands of years alongside humans farming plants).
4. Biological features - Gastric ph of dogs being 1.5-2 (a bit skewed because a beagle can get 4.6) versus humans range of... 1.5-3.5? The science is already out on human digestibility. Why is the point being made so reduced? Then there's consideration of bodily responses and how pH fluctuates depending on the meal!
5. Mispronounced Taurine (and later methionine), ok no big deal. Regurgitate the taurine and amino acid profile thing? C'mon its 2021 as of the video. Biochemistry. Everything literally has a complete amino acid profile in the sense it has all essential proteins (in varying levels)! This has been rehashed in the scientific community over and over, and just keeps popping back up whenever some trendy journalist wants to make a splash that confirms what ppl want to do, even when its contrary to science.
5a. Sigh.. Bioavailability should consider volume and maybe context.. yes? Maybe synthetic vitamins taken when the body isn't primed to eating food probably means it wont produce enzymes that make it suitably more absorbable... the entire problem of synthetic vitamins is the usage as isolated compounds without context dependent micronutrients.. carbohydrates.. wth man i thought this was supposed to be an educational video
6. Dilated cardiomyopathy has been a concern, especially if you are privy to studies like that of those that came from UC Davis concerning a sample of 24 golden retrievers. Specifically to note, "none of these diets were feeding trial tested using Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) procedures". Supplemented Taurine and switched diets and boom 9/11 dogs with heart disease reduced or (mostly) regressed.
7. 7:23 Pls tell me ppl read the study on the screen in the video. As in actually read the whole paragraph and not a sentence that is a good sound bit for the video.
8. 8:26 ok Im done. Anyone who understood the function of antinutrients, and how it's defined, with any scientific rigor, would see how this buzzword is often overused and not well understood (hint: its part of why its still a burgeoning field of scientific research!).
The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4519257/#:~:text=Obligate%20scavengers%20(1.3%20%C2%B1%200.08,herbivore%20(6.1%20%C2%B1%200.31)
Taurine deficiency and dilated cardiomyopathy in golden retrievers fed commercial diets:
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0209112
P.S. To the video maker, please I urge you to not make low level claims backed up by obviously no expertise. These massively reduced talking points are why people have a distrust and misunderstanding of science.
I can't believe some people would be so DUMB to try and feed their carnivorous pets a vegetable based diet. If you don't want a pet that eats meat, adopt an herbivore!
My Cats And Dogs Are Vegan And Were Vegan For 18 Years And There's NOTHING You Can Do About It.
Cool I guess?!! Good on you?!!
I'm trying to go vegan, but I couldn't imagine ever feeding my dogs a vegan diet. Nutritional aspects aside, I just don't think it's fair to force my lifestyle choices on my pets who were designed to eat meat. I put a lot of time into making sure that the meat they do it is ethically sourced. They don't get any beef, chicken, turkey, or pork. These animals are often factory farmed and are the top most killed animals for meat who are most likely to come from a factory farm. Instead, they get lamb (which, here in the UK, over 99% of sheep are kept in pastures year round), free range duck, rabbit*, fish caught from zone 27 in the Atlantic, and venison.
*I can't confirm whether or not these are factory farmed, I need to find out with the company I buy from. They've given assurances that all their meat sources meet the 5 welfare needs of animals, though.
This is a very well made video. However I disagree with the ethically sourced bit. You can’t ethically murder someone that didn’t want to die.
Im a vegan and I am learning about a raw diet to put my dog on. Being vegan is my choice and I can be healthy on it but I'm not gonna put my dog on it because he can't be healthy and meet his dietary requirements
I would ask you as a vegan to do more research on this before you decide to feed raw…. Dogs CAN be very healthy and live extremely long lives vegan whilst no other animals have to be tortured and harmed for them.
@@isthisallthereis7083 I'm not saying a dog would drop dead from being on a raw diet, but most vegan dog food is kibble which is very processed and his cooked at such a high temperature that it kills most of the nutrients. Most of the dogs raw food is from parts of the animals we don't want to eat. Are there many studies of dogs on a vegan diet doing well? No. Is it natural for dogs to eat raw meat and not vegetables? Yes😆😆😆 if it came down to giving my dog a proper nutritional diet I would be willing to shoot something myself. 👍
I’m a vegan but feed my dog raw food even tho I do feel bad for the animals dogs aren’t meant to be vegan so I want to give my dog his natural diet I would never make my dog vegan
I am personally vegan but I have been considering transitioning my dog to a plant based diet but I don't want them to suffer because of my personal human morals. Dogs are animals that naturally gravitate to eating meat and forcing my human morals on an animal when it could damage their quality of life is something I don't want to do. I love my dog and want the best for her. So until there is more information and support for dogs THRIVING on a vegan diet, personally I don't think I will transition my dog.
Thats great ..couse bird flue is spreading and we can't eat qny birds .......
I think the ONLY time it's acceptable for a dog to be on a vegan diet, is when all other situations have been trialed first and the dog still had issues. It should be the last resource and actually recommended by the dog's vet because other diets aren't working due to allergies or intolerances.
THANK YOU! Dogs are carnivores, not omnivores.
Omnivores*
@@alipetuniashow carnivores...
They are omnivores they need 90% meat 10% plants
@@skigstfolglps5398 there carnivores if you watched the video there teeth aren't designed for plant matter and there stomach is a ph1 and there from the order carnivore 😀
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Hi! Just some friendly facts ---
Dogs are not omnivores, they are facultative carnivores which have important differences from a true omnivore.
A true omnivorous species has the option to eat zero meat and thrive (humans/pigs, etc.) --- a facultative carnivore will not thrive, removing meat significantly lowers their quality of life over time.
The difference between a facultative carnivore (wolves/coyotes/dingos/dogs) and an obligate carnivore(cats/ferrets) is that an obligate will die relatively quickly if eating vegan, but a facultative carnivore is more resilient--- they won't die, but they'll just survive with a lower quality of life, and health issues will develop over time.
Even wolves and coyotes can survive on only plants for whole seasons when game is scarce, but it won't be optimal for their health and they won't have an easy time digesting it.
Not only that, dogs have not moved evolutionarily far enough away from wolves to be omnivores --- they are more tolerant facultative carnivores than wolves, but their digestive system has remained very much the same, meaning they thrive on the same optimal diet as their wild cousins --- and studies showing some sort of huge increase in amylase enzyme (for starches) were actually performed on pigs (pigs are true omnivore and can thrive on either end of the spectrum, meat or veg) and applied to dogs without actually testing dogs.
Also, most vets that unknowingly push misinformation about dogs being omnivores (which they are not) were educated in schools sponsored by kibble companies, who push the omnivore fib in order to sell kibble that is bulked out by cheap fillers. They don't actually do much education at vet school in the way of dog nutrition, nor do they take an evolutionary biology approach in their schooling when it comes to dog nutrition. :/
I really recommend looking up the "raw feeding veterinary society"!!!
Vegans should take a realistic approach and buy from local farmers or butchers, to ensure animals are well treated and healthy. This is already a “best practice” in raw feeding communities. As a lifelong vegetarian (turned pescatarian with a mostly vegan wife) we’re working our raw fed pup gets animals that were treated well. I’ve been getting free-range turkeys, grass-fed humane certified beef, and crate free vegetarian pork, and avoiding chicken (except feet as they are the pups favorite raw bone). But sourcing ethically is important to us, and neither of us would ever have thought to feed vegan kibble. The idea of people actually feeding their dog vegan makes me pissed, I do judge people hard for that one.
Dogs are omnivores due to the abundance of amylase enzyme in their gut/intestines to digest and break down starches, and plant matter. They have evolved thousands of years ago and as time goes on the more their genetics will produce amylase.
Dogs are omnivores but mainly eat a diet of meat and should not eat a full on vegan pet food. I wonder what the vegans would say to me if I had a pet rabbit and fed it on a meat diet.
Also I’ve noticed that vegan fed dogs coats looks just... awful like there not silky and shiny and beautiful but there gross and ruff and dry
Hmm strange, my dogs coat actually dog wayyy shinier when he went vegan…
People who feed their dogs and cats a very cheap kibble like pedigree feed their pets an almost vegan diet as there's barely any meat in such kibble. It's a good alternative to an overpriced vegan petfood (at least brands like pedigree put enough supplements into their kibble).
Also, I think vegan pet food companies have to make studies about what they sell and if it's actually an adequate alternative. Oh, wait, the pet food won't be vegan anymore because they tested it on animals...hmm.
I don't eat meat myself, but feeding my dogs and cat corn and soy feels wrong. If lab-grown meat would be available in the future I'd consider trying it.
Yep I sort of mention this too!
I dont need vegan diet I want to know veg dieat thats it ....
Feeding an animal a vegan diet, when that animal is built to eat meat is animal abuse. If you arent comfortable feeding meat to an animal, there are plenty of great pets that can suit your life style
Great video! I think there's a difference between home made vegan diet for dogs, I see quite a few raw vegan dogs on ig thrive for years now... One of the oldest living dogs was supposedly vegan. I think the key to the ethical aspect is to not buy meat from factory farms. That overall is the sole reason why eventually all of us humans will have to be vegan or we won't have a planet to live on. For us the vegan diet is absolutely the best, but I think for as long as we keep pets we have to honor their biological needs.
Even though we humans can do fine with a vegan diet, dogs and cats cannot. Vegans should understand that just because they don't need to eat meat, that doesn't mean that their cat can go without meat. If they are not willing to feed their dogs/cats a species appropriate diet, they need to not have carnivorous pets.
I think that if the food you choose to feed your pet does not allow it to have optimum health that it is OK. Vegan food for dogs and cats is not a healthy normal choice for you to feed them.
If there's anything vegan about carnivores pet food, you should question it.
There's a lot of science behind carnivorous anatomy and why they shouldn't go vegan (which I agree with). But I wonder how much science this channel puts into the human anatomy, to understand our bodies are designed for plants? (Flat teeth, long digestive tracts).
If you're vegan and you can't stomach feeding your cat meat then get a pet thats an herbivore. Otherwise youre literally putting your preference for cats or dogs over the well being of the animals.
Vegans great for me but NOT for my cat 💙
That vegan teacher needs to see this and just get a rabbit instead of forcing a vegan diet on her dog.
Animals who drive on vegan diets usually eat homemade and strictly planned meals, just like omni and carnivorous pets can thrive better on homemade mealplan instead of commercial pet food.
Few things that I disliked about this video was comparing pets to their ancestors since they have been bred far away from their original ancestry. Cats and ferrets are still closer to their wild cousins while dogs are quite far away from wolves.
Another thing is that the vegan foods often have added amino acids and vitamins. So they can have fully the needed amino acids or short amino acid chains that can be formed into longer ones.
Also just to point out that while the foods have added vitamins, the vitamins are not naturally found in animals and are fed to them. So a wild animal like a deer would not have the same vitamins as farmed animals since they are fed vitamin rich food in order to provide that vitamin in the meat.
Not going for or against pets being vegan just pointing some things out.
Too bad many vegans don’t understand that feeding a dog or cat a vegan diet is just a form of animal cruelty. Like we can go vegan cause we have the ability to effectively digest almost every food eat. Pets aren’t people the ideal diet for them is not the same as us.
Lol 😂Longest living Dog was 25year vegan
It was a really good video but you lost me at complete and incomplete proteins
While Its perfectly ok for humans to make an active choice of not eating meat! Making that choice for a dog, which by nature is a carnivore is akin to animal cruelty... IMHO!
09:05 That makes no sense, if you aren’t vegan.