Good, given how bad the v1 was we need to see it on a spectrum analyzer, as you know the b1 had low audio volume, on some frequencies v low power output on the low setting, and harmonic spikes when transmitting well above what fcc allow. I hope they’ve managed to fix those things, but put together with them using a spoof fcc I’d last time these are legitimate and important questions
@@simongordon8182 Yea some of them can be really bad. The Abree you can hear the transmission loud and clear on the harmonics. I plan on running it through the TinySA as well as my poor mans test. This video was already 17min so I had to break it up.
@@K5QBF thanks, this is all I want, there’s a lot of great stuff that comes from China but also some rubbish, I hope tidradio so good but they need to prove themselves after what happened last time around
@@simongordon8182 I like most of the radios from there. What I was trying to say in the live chat is there was another comment I deleted. It was along the lines of “another UA-camr promoting Chinese junk” that’s the one I removed.
@@K5QBF thanks, no problem, and sorry if I was shirty, I picked up a baofeng on Temu at an incredible price, but very interested in this radio, thanks for doing several audio checks, if the rf looks reasonable I’m definitely picking one up. Btw you do know the key sequence for flipping it between gmrs and ham ? FYI I’m uk and USA radio amateur- G6ENS over there and K6ENS over here :-)
So confusing to some of us newbies. Many thanks for your help, time and assistance. I'm still a long way from understanding all this GMSR stuff and programing...but I'm getting there thanks to folks like you. Thx
I was looking at this radio on Amazon, but thanks to a cheaper price than Amazon and your coupon for the Tidradio sight I decided to pull the trigger. This will be my first Ham radio and I am looking forward to lots of good times. Thank you for your channel.
I'm impressed.... if I have any extra money I'm definitely going to get this upgraded model it's exactly what I've been looking for being I do gmrs and ham work... Thank you for bringing this to my attention and your time as always😎👍💯
Thank you for going through the Menu option and explaining them and also the App on the phone. I ordered one from Amazon yesterday and it will be here on Thurs 28th. Every video I've seen on UA-cam say this is a good radio. Thank you! WRZR744
I’m no genius but it seems to me that bt programming is groundbreaking. You would think that the big boys would have made this a common feature in at least most radios they put out.
Radtel was the first to build BT into one of their radios. The RT 490, which also has GPS. The Japanese couldn't do worse than add BT programming, but they still haven't made a radio with USBc charging yet. Hopefully we might at least see Yaesu bring out new batteries for the FT-70 & FT4 with USB sockets.
Thanks for the video! I like the look of the radio and it appears to have a lot of nice QoL features. Can't say I'm thrilled at having to register any details on an app to use it for programming (I'm sure the radio can be programmed on the face). Even with fake credential information the app is still installed on my phone or tablet and doing who knows what in the background. Fortunately it looks like CHIRP supports the radio so I might just pick one of these up. 73!
The manufacturer stated this- _"While there haven't been any major changes to the hardware or firmware of the H8, I'm thrilled to share that we have made notable improvements. The latest version of the H8 now features USB-C charging, allowing for more convenient and faster charging. Furthermore, we have fine-tuned the sound quality, ensuring that your audio experience is exceptional._ " You can get the new one direct from the Tidradio website and use K5QBF at check out for 20%off.
@@K5QBFdamn if only I saw that any sooner, I bought the (upgraded 1st gen) cause I didn’t want the bundle and they had a discount. Also it gets here tm so couldn’t pass that up
Bit confused myself. I am both Ham/GMRS licensed is there an advantage, since i can legally use both, to buying the ham version or the GMRS version? They both sound like they will do both if unlocked. Does one have more power than the other. In my situation which one would you suggest. Thanks in advance!
If I get the GMRS h8 g2 it has ham on it.. So do I got both worlds? Ham & GMRS. plus fully unlocking And I can just put in the GMRS freq and just listen to Ham on the side thanks for your help brother. this is WRVA-657 out.
If you get the GMRS version it’s programmed to TX on GMRS. You can listen to ham bands without unlocking anything. You can save the RX side of any ham repeater to listen. I don’t recommend unlocking unless you have the license to TX on the ham bands.
Awesome, thanks for letting me know. I saw they were out of stock on Amazon, but in stock direct from Tidradio. If you buy direct you save even more with my K5QBF coupon code.
Ham version is 10w, GMRS is 5w. So in any case get a HAM version and unlock it. Folks report being able to pull 10w on both HAM and GMRS after unlocking.
When I pulled the FCC number is looks like they are under part 15 which means they won't interfere with other equipment. I am working on a video that will show that the transmitter is indeed clean.
One you need a ham radio license and other you need a GMRS license. The Ham radio license requires a test to pass where as the GMRS is fee based. You pay one fee to cover the whole home.
So once again, the ChiComs are getting your location information lol. The SW seems to work ok without registering but you obviously don't get location services e.g., repeater locations.
Is it splash resistant? Waterproof? Submersible? Would be using this radio in a marine environment where I need the 55 Vhf marine channels & some land-mobile frequency’s.
@@K5QBF speaker not changed sound was fixed in firmware. Oh there’s definitely 3 hidden features. Let’s just say The ham and the GMRS radio are the same NOTHING DIFFERENT not even the firmware.
That will be region specific as GMRS is channelized. You can tune around and listen or you can use a site like repeaterbook.com to see if there are any local repeaters you can join in.
They are the same radio. V2 has some firmware adjustments to the audio is the only thing I could find. I asked the manufacturer the same question and here was their reply. "both versions of the H8 radio, namely the HAM and GMRS, have successfully completed FCC certification." "there haven't been any major changes to the hardware or firmware of the H8, I'm thrilled to share that we have made notable improvements. The latest version of the H8 now features USB-C charging, allowing for more convenient and faster charging. Furthermore, we have fine-tuned the sound quality, ensuring that your audio experience is exceptional.
@@K5QBF I just received this radio tonight, and while the manual doesn't say much about #34, the Odmaster app allows us to toggle this on as a channel setting, not a radio function setting. What I mean is, this is an attribute you assign to a channel, just like you would a frequency, offset, and tone. These radios were originally sold in pairs. Now all we need is for someone to test this frequency hopping between two TD-H8 radios with identical channel settings and freq hopping enabled. Have a third radio tuned to the same frequency. If it works, the two radios communicate while the third doesn't receive. Then this may be one of the greatest features of this radio. Somewhat private simplex with interference rejection!
doesn't matter if you give the app a fake name, they got literally everything on your phone...messages, meta data, contacts, browser info, everything. they don't even bother to tell you they don't take your info in their EULA.
The million dollar q is whether or not they’ve solved the problem of high levels of spurious harmonics that the original with a fake fcc number had. Any the q is secondary. Buying selling using a radio that prodigy from interference would be very problematic.
I used the radio at field day on both uhf and vhf and had no reports of interference. In testing other radios the worst I’ve seen in a spur was around 28dbm which is roughly .63 watts and with the loss in the antenna it wasn’t detectable on a radio more than a foot away from the source. According to the manual, which was part of the FCC approval process, it meets part 97 standards.
I am working on a follow up video regarding the spectrum clarity.
Good, given how bad the v1 was we need to see it on a spectrum analyzer, as you know the b1 had low audio volume, on some frequencies v low power output on the low setting, and harmonic spikes when transmitting well above what fcc allow. I hope they’ve managed to fix those things, but put together with them using a spoof fcc I’d last time these are legitimate and important questions
@@simongordon8182 Yea some of them can be really bad. The Abree you can hear the transmission loud and clear on the harmonics. I plan on running it through the TinySA as well as my poor mans test. This video was already 17min so I had to break it up.
@@K5QBF thanks, this is all I want, there’s a lot of great stuff that comes from China but also some rubbish, I hope tidradio so good but they need to prove themselves after what happened last time around
@@simongordon8182 I like most of the radios from there. What I was trying to say in the live chat is there was another comment I deleted. It was along the lines of “another UA-camr promoting Chinese junk” that’s the one I removed.
@@K5QBF thanks, no problem, and sorry if I was shirty, I picked up a baofeng on Temu at an incredible price, but very interested in this radio, thanks for doing several audio checks, if the rf looks reasonable I’m definitely picking one up. Btw you do know the key sequence for flipping it between gmrs and ham ? FYI I’m uk and USA radio amateur- G6ENS over there and K6ENS over here :-)
So confusing to some of us newbies. Many thanks for your help, time and assistance. I'm still a long way from understanding all this GMSR stuff and programing...but I'm getting there thanks to folks like you. Thx
I was looking at this radio on Amazon, but thanks to a cheaper price than Amazon and your coupon for the Tidradio sight I decided to pull the trigger. This will be my first Ham radio and I am looking forward to lots of good times. Thank you for your channel.
I think you’re going to like it. This is why this channel exists, you made my day. Thank you!
New H8 arrived today and so far I'm VERY impressed with it. Liked it so much I ordered another one as a spare. 73's AI4HZ
The only option it’s missing is Airband RX. I asked the manufacturer if that was in the works.
I'm impressed.... if I have any extra money I'm definitely going to get this upgraded model it's exactly what I've been looking for being I do gmrs and ham work... Thank you for bringing this to my attention and your time as always😎👍💯
Glad I could help
@@K5QBF 😎👍 KG7QIS
Thank you for going through the Menu option and explaining them and also the App on the phone. I ordered one from Amazon yesterday and it will be here on Thurs 28th. Every video I've seen on UA-cam say this is a good radio. Thank you! WRZR744
Thanks for watching, I use mine almost daily.
I’m no genius but it seems to me that bt programming is groundbreaking. You would think that the big boys would have made this a common feature in at least most radios they put out.
You are correct and it has been around forever. Getting the Japanese companies to change things can be a struggle.
Amen!
Radtel was the first to build BT into one of their radios. The RT 490, which also has GPS.
The Japanese couldn't do worse than add BT programming, but they still haven't made a radio with USBc charging yet. Hopefully we might at least see Yaesu bring out new batteries for the FT-70 & FT4 with USB sockets.
Wow, big difference in price , eBay here in Australia $150 for the radio and $50 postage from the states , unlucky us 👍
Thanks for the video! I like the look of the radio and it appears to have a lot of nice QoL features. Can't say I'm thrilled at having to register any details on an app to use it for programming (I'm sure the radio can be programmed on the face). Even with fake credential information the app is still installed on my phone or tablet and doing who knows what in the background. Fortunately it looks like CHIRP supports the radio so I might just pick one of these up. 73!
It is supported by chirp. I will say the app didn't ask for any permissions, but I understand the concern.
I ordered one the other day. I'll get it today
Airband would be good but atleast the BT programming is awesome.
Bluetooth programming is awesome 👍
I see there’s 1st gen upgraded and 2nd gen. The 2nd gen only comes in a bundle and I won’t get till august. Do I need the 2nd or are they the same
The manufacturer stated this-
_"While there haven't been any major changes to the hardware or firmware of the H8, I'm thrilled to share that we have made notable improvements. The latest version of the H8 now features USB-C charging, allowing for more convenient and faster charging. Furthermore, we have fine-tuned the sound quality, ensuring that your audio experience is exceptional._ "
You can get the new one direct from the Tidradio website and use K5QBF at check out for 20%off.
@@K5QBFdamn if only I saw that any sooner, I bought the (upgraded 1st gen) cause I didn’t want the bundle and they had a discount. Also it gets here tm so couldn’t pass that up
Nice video.I am James from Athens Greece.Keep on the good work my friend.
Thanks for being very informative on this radio.
BOOMER SOONER!!😊
Thanks for the review. I'm newish and looking for a new HT
Thanks for watching, glad I could help.
So can you order the ham version and program GMRS freqs in also?
I’m not sure, but possibly.
You sure can, be sue to select unlock.
Do you know if the radio scans channels any faster than the average UV5R?
No I was disappointed with the scan speed.
Bit confused myself. I am both Ham/GMRS licensed is there an advantage, since i can legally use both, to buying the ham version or the GMRS version? They both sound like they will do both if unlocked. Does one have more power than the other. In my situation which one would you suggest. Thanks in advance!
Personally mines unlocked and I use it for both. The hardware is identical between the models.
@@K5QBF so your saying regardless gmrs/ ham it's 10w?
@@LC-vw9kv Between 9-10w depending on band
@@K5QBFI think im going to purchase it.
No one cares if you use a ham radio on gmrs. Like, literally no one. Well, except a few autists on Facebook.
Glad I did a team rewatch.
Thanks for watching!
Anytime! Thinking I am going for a dmr next though and getting the adapter for programming maybe
If the radio is already Bluetooth programmable, why do I need the high performance handheld radio wireless cable programmer? I like the video.
You don’t, the programmer is for the ones with no Bluetooth.
Thank you
How do I know if I’m receiving a v1 or v2 radio, thanks
I’m the small box of the main screen a triangle will point to the VFO that is in use.
If I get the GMRS h8 g2 it has ham on it.. So do I got both worlds?
Ham & GMRS. plus fully unlocking
And I can just put in the GMRS freq and just listen to Ham on the side thanks for your help brother. this is WRVA-657 out.
If you get the GMRS version it’s programmed to TX on GMRS. You can listen to ham bands without unlocking anything. You can save the RX side of any ham repeater to listen. I don’t recommend unlocking unless you have the license to TX on the ham bands.
@@K5QBF thank you very much
Amazon is now selling the H8 Radio Charging 'Cradle' so it will recharge the radio while it stands upright.
Awesome, thanks for letting me know. I saw they were out of stock on Amazon, but in stock direct from Tidradio. If you buy direct you save even more with my K5QBF coupon code.
is this comparable or better than the Anytone 878uv+?
The 878 is a DMR capable radio. The Tidradio is just analog.
So both versions are 10 watts
To my knowledge yes
¡ SÍ ! Both versions are one and the same
Ham version is 10w, GMRS is 5w. So in any case get a HAM version and unlock it. Folks report being able to pull 10w on both HAM and GMRS after unlocking.
Are these type-accepted radios?
When I pulled the FCC number is looks like they are under part 15 which means they won't interfere with other equipment. I am working on a video that will show that the transmitter is indeed clean.
Can you unlock the ham version for GMRS also?
I believe it is possible.
Is there a difference between the two walkies on the website?, i just need them for walkie to walkie communication
One you need a ham radio license and other you need a GMRS license. The Ham radio license requires a test to pass where as the GMRS is fee based. You pay one fee to cover the whole home.
Ok perfect so if i get a license, i can use either or for walkie to walkie?, does one have longer range than the other?
@@facts1752 they are the same radio. The only difference is what frequencies it will transmit on.
@@K5QBF thank you appreciate it
@@facts1752for ham Radio each person needs their own individual license GMRS one license covers your whole immediate family
Any idea what the power output is at the 222 mhz band?
It doesn't transmit on that band from the factory.
I just want to confirm that it would work on 462 and 467 GMRS. Thanks.
There is both a Ham and GMRS model.
Can the bluetooth be used with a bluetooth headset?
The only documented use for Bluetooth is for programming. I don't have a way to test the other.
So once again, the ChiComs are getting your location information lol. The SW seems to work ok without registering but you obviously don't get location services e.g., repeater locations.
I’ve heard that their repeater information isn’t accurate. I usually just download repeater data from RepeaterBook into chirp.
Great video!
Is it superhet or SOC?
I do not know for sure, but my initial googling supports SOC.
Is it splash resistant? Waterproof? Submersible? Would be using this radio in a marine environment where I need the 55 Vhf marine channels & some land-mobile frequency’s.
It’s splash resistant at most.
Your links to the radio on Amazon are broken.
Thanks for letting me know. Here’s the new link. amzn.to/3QkodBq
Can you use this radio as a police scanner?
I wouldn’t recommend this as a viable option.
I hope mine is a version 2 I got mine a couple months ago
The version 2 was just released.
@@K5QBFnothing different besides firmware that’s it! This radio has also hidden features.
@@Gta2O13 I haven’t found any hidden features. The manufacturer said they upgraded the speaker and added usb-c to the battery.
@@K5QBF speaker not changed sound was fixed in firmware. Oh there’s definitely 3 hidden features. Let’s just say The ham and the GMRS radio are the same NOTHING DIFFERENT not even the firmware.
@@K5QBF people gave this radio unnecessary bad reviews because of firmware was glitchy and was not FCC approved.
I am new to GRMS radios. Can you please tell me what the best frequencies to use?
That will be region specific as GMRS is channelized. You can tune around and listen or you can use a site like repeaterbook.com to see if there are any local repeaters you can join in.
I can not get ODmaster to work AT ALL
It tells me my password or username is incorrect no matter what I try.... Where can I get help?
I have found deleting and reinstalling the app fixes most things. If that doesn't work reach out to Tidradio.
I think the issue is with basically any app it's what it can access to and what it sends back to the homeland.
What is the real max power?
I don't have a watt meter so I am not entirely sure. I need to get a watt meter.
Ok let me know if you have test it. Thank you sir
@@Chandra378 the meter should be here tomorrow and I’ll have a spectrum purity test and power test.
Puts out about 9 watts on GMRS YUP on GMRS. Gate keeping 😂
Between 9-12.3 watts when I tested it.
I’m asking all these tubers if there’s a way to determine between ver1 , ver2 radio’s. No one sees to have a answer.
They are the same radio. V2 has some firmware adjustments to the audio is the only thing I could find. I asked the manufacturer the same question and here was their reply.
"both versions of the H8 radio, namely the HAM and GMRS, have successfully completed FCC certification."
"there haven't been any major changes to the hardware or firmware of the H8, I'm thrilled to share that we have made notable improvements. The latest version of the H8 now features USB-C charging, allowing for more convenient and faster charging. Furthermore, we have fine-tuned the sound quality, ensuring that your audio experience is exceptional.
NOBODY seems to know what hopping rx (menu 34) is or how to use it.
I have reached out to my contact there for an explaination. I will upadte you when I hear back from them.
@@K5QBF awesome!
@@K5QBF I just received this radio tonight, and while the manual doesn't say much about #34, the Odmaster app allows us to toggle this on as a channel setting, not a radio function setting. What I mean is, this is an attribute you assign to a channel, just like you would a frequency, offset, and tone. These radios were originally sold in pairs. Now all we need is for someone to test this frequency hopping between two TD-H8 radios with identical channel settings and freq hopping enabled. Have a third radio tuned to the same frequency. If it works, the two radios communicate while the third doesn't receive. Then this may be one of the greatest features of this radio. Somewhat private simplex with interference rejection!
doesn't matter if you give the app a fake name, they got literally everything on your phone...messages, meta data, contacts, browser info, everything. they don't even bother to tell you they don't take your info in their EULA.
I’m not sure what to tell you. According to Apple they do not collect data. I only use old devices though for programming.
i ordered via amazon and the mfg emailed me a delay in shipping due to govt
Oh really? I need to reach out to them and get the scoop. I wonder if they mean customs or regulatory.
@@K5QBF it did not say it shows whipping now is august
@@keathrhymer5449 I wish they had this bundle on the website.
I ordered mine the other day, and it's now out for delivery. I don't know why there is a delay for you. That's very strange.
@@nimblehealer199 maybe since its the package
good luck got mine a week ago and after 198 attempts to connect bluetooth and no real help from mfg sending it back cant recommend anyone buy it
The best fix I’ve found for the Bluetooth not connecting is removing and reinstalling the app.
@@K5QBF ok did that 9 times same result
@@keathrhymer5449what phone model are you using to pair it? Try a different phone with the app installed.
Looking for a gmrs radio that will pick up airplanes helicopters the airplane please date me and thank you.
The H3 has Airband and GMRS
amzn.to/4f8rhv4
The Odmaster sucks. Won't pair.
I’ve never had an issue with the device pairing to the app. I’d try deleting and reinstalling the app.
@@K5QBF I uninstalled then reinstalled as you advised. I got it to pair. Thanks.
@@nats50 glad I could help. I’ve found that method solves most issues.
The million dollar q is whether or not they’ve solved the problem of high levels of spurious harmonics that the original with a fake fcc number had. Any the q is secondary. Buying selling using a radio that prodigy from interference would be very problematic.
I used the radio at field day on both uhf and vhf and had no reports of interference. In testing other radios the worst I’ve seen in a spur was around 28dbm which is roughly .63 watts and with the loss in the antenna it wasn’t detectable on a radio more than a foot away from the source. According to the manual, which was part of the FCC approval process, it meets part 97 standards.
They fixed this problem in the firmware. Also fixed issues with the mic and speaker in the newest firmware.
I will be testing it live today at 3:30pm central.
@@K5QBF second is still 1 gen! It’s FCC now approve and new firmware and that’s it. Oh and if you the added USB charging.
It's not worth worrying about.
😂