You'll Never Believe What I Found In My Attic
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- While renovating my utilities in this house I have made some startling discoveries. Sometimes it all seems overwhelming....
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Well one wire at a time and bring up 10 boxes and covers. You eat a elephant one bite at a time. With all the work you have done, remember to enjoy your family and life. Thanks for sharing.
well said one bite at a time, current tester juction box's wire nuts one, iam going through the same thing in the house i rent pulled all the insulation in attic got ride of the mice plugged holes used rockwool new venting used attic foil this project was done free of charge to my land lord who doesn't now the roof is almost done new 3/4 decking probably built during the war or a sears kit house, this kept my mind busy while my i took care of my sister who was terminal the payback will be from the look on my landlord's face sorry for the ramble i've paid it forward love my landlord in burien washington
You ate an elephant?
Our attic was like that. We replaced all the loose insulation with rolls of rockwool. To remove the loose stuff we used a leaf vacuum fitted with a duvet cover as the bag. It inflated to quite a size, but it worked. Needed three duvet covers to do the job. Used flexible duct between the vacuum and the duvet for manoeverability. Full suits and masks of course. Love your channel. God bless!
Scary stuff! Good that you know about electrical!
Oh man, I feel your pain. We live in an old farm house that has similar issues everywhere where the last owners did some shady stuff over the years. It drags me down too when I look at all of what needs to be done at one time.
I feel your pain. So far I’ve found 5 buried junction boxes at my house. Loose wires, two sources running to one circuit, amongst other things. It’s never ending.
Look, the wiring needs to be fixed. But its not as big a deal as people are saying. Just take your time with a helper and go through and label all wires, Make sure the breakers/wire are the appropriate size. Replace what you have too, but don't get rid of stuff that isn't necessary. Just clean it up...... make it safe, and move on.
I think most of the wiring needs to be replaced as I see a lot of cables that have cut marks.
After seeing the plumbing job, can't say l was that shocked at the wiring issues. Although I was a bit nervous watching you touch the wires without knowing if they were energized or not.
For around $20 , a non contact voltage detector can save your life. Or at the very least, from having to change your shorts.
But seriously, get one and use it.
wow, previous owner was quite the handyman. on a positive note, more youtube content!
*un-handyman
:-)
The Lord has blessed you with a home, when you have the wiring done then you will now everything about it, and that's a good thing, if anything ever goes wrong and needs to be fixed you'll have it covered
I bought a fixer upper to but there was no insulation in the attic , walls or crawlspace in Kansas . the wiring was 2 prong ,next will be plumbing that should be fun, enjoy figuring out that nightmare of wiring and I feel for you
This reminds me of my house. Previous owner had spliced 12 gauge with knob and tube. You're right to tear it out and start over as time and money allows. That's the only way to fix a mess like that.
Very difficult work. I admire your perseverance
Oh Todd...I know you will make this all right. One day at a time.You have this. Heck I'm a women that doesn't know crap about wiring (even though my hubby is an electrician. If only we lived closer he could help ya out) but when I saw this my eyes almost popped out! This is insane!! Who does this crap? I'm praying for your safety and the safety of you family. Hang in there and be very safe! Greetings from Wisconsin. Karen.
I think you are taking the right approach! Great job!
Good chance the abandon wires were for electric heat at some point. Found tons of abandon ones in my old house. The other ends were tucked into the walls where the baseboards were and mudded over.
You are worth your weight in gold sir! You are a hard worker and I am amazed at your skills!!
For you DIY guys: Duck tape (the kind you get at the hardware stores) is not for use on ductwork. That's the correct insulation for metal ductwork, but the tape used for sealing it is metal foil type. The adhesive on "Duck tape" will not last very long in an attic or crawlspace. Metal foil sealing tape will last a very long time indeed.
That wiring is terrifying! I could not sleep in that house with that wiring. I’m virtually phobic about electrical fires. Maybe because my Father was an Electrical Engineer and did all my wiring and told me all sorts of horror stories. Good Grief…what were the previous owners thinking?!
Way to stay positive. God never gives you more than you can handle, right? Nicely done. Go ARMY!
I feel your pain. Just to give you an idea how bad my house had things rigged throughout, my dryer was vented into a wall cavity! Took the drywall down in the bathroom to fix a built in medicine cabinet and it was full of lint! I usually will plan on spending 2 times the amount of time it should take on any given project because I know I’m going to run into something along the way.
That wiring is terrifying! Maybe when rewiring you can go IT on it and have nice cable runs in one area instead of that crazy reckless mess that's up there now. I'm feeling your angst on this one!
Yeah I see what you're saying about being depressing. Good luck!
This is what home inspections are for! If I was looking at that home when it was for sale, I would have hired an inspector as well as inspect it for myself.
Just hope the building inspector does not see that attic, he would condemn the home until the wiring is fixed.
You can easily get a Kline brand no touch current detector that will tell you that you have a live wire. Perfect for your attic!
I think that wiring is a nightmare! I would want that taken care of ASAP! As far as the duct work is concerned, I see now why your outdoor wood boiler was so inefficient (besides the pipes(?) running from it to the house being laid wrong (or something like that). Thank God that He is with you and your family. Now please hurry up and get that rat's nest of wires taken care of.
I had a similar experience buying a house. The inspector did not point out the electrical desaster in the attic. I found it my second day of renovation. Long story short. I did not pay for the work that was needed to bring the electrical up to code. No the inspector didnt pay for it. The sellers were forced to pay or be sued.
I do not envy you at all. But I got flash backs. Good luck.
Very appropriate verse to end this video!
I was cringing at that insulation in the attic. Are you sure that it does not have asbestos in it?? We live in NY and seems like every home improvement that gets done has to have an inspection, especially electrical work. Did your house get inspected before you bought it? I'm sure you have those wires all sorted by now - I think I would have spent the money on an electrician to come in - or my husband knows a guy, lol. We do get whatever we do inspected though.
When you finish fixing & renovating you will have a brand new house. Lol
Give me flashbacks of being at work. Lol
We are electricians. My husband and his brothers used to own an electrical contracting business. He's a journeyman, I worked for him for a few years back in my younger days. I can't tell you how many times I audibly said "WOW" watching this. Be careful.
What is it about attics that just conjure up nasty stuff. Someone is watching over you for sure. Glad you caught it before any huge loads were placed on the lines. Our attic in our house was a nightmare for other reasons and that was leaks.
This makes me very nervous. All that crazy wiring. Anyway that could be a priority to start? Or is winter a bad time to be up in the attic doing electrical work. Be praying you stay safe.
It is a great time to be in the attic. But I cant access the wires in the walls until I tear out drywall in each room. So, one room at a time
OMG
Its like my attic.
if you rewire use conduit t least the attic
Well, now is the time of year to be working in the attic. So there is a positive in that.
Agreed! I waited until this time for a reason
i have been there.if u dont have a clue do not touch things.hope u sleep well i no i would not until i sorted that mess out.unbeleivable.good luck mate
This is the perfect reason you should hire a professional to do all your electrical and your hvac. I am impressed by your hvac knowledge. Order some Manville 1-1/2” ductwrap insulation. Order some pukie and seal all the slips and drives and takeoffs and the adjustable 90’s. Hate to see the results on a ductwork leakage test. From what I see and I can see enough that’s $3k in ductwork repair alone. $1400 for blow in insulation to get up to R-39 and remove the dirty nasty insulation you have up there now.
Sure is. It’s a lot easier than saying CCWI-181 water based duct sealant. The vendor I buy from calls it HARDCAST another vendor calls it mastic. All my employees call it pukie more as a generic name. Hope this clarifies things, sorry for any confusion.
Man, if I saw that in my house, I would be in that attic full time until it was completely rewired. That is very dangerous.
As it is, I've found a pile of very bad electrical work in my house. Every time I find something, it becomes priority #1.
@4:46. That electrical connection, even in an attic, must be housed in a junction box, per electrical code. You are in violation of the code as shown.
All you can do is do a little at a time. You will get it.
Dam
how did that house not burn down?
Ouch
I can completely and totally sympathize with what you are dealing with. We bought a 4,000 sq ft house and land in SW Louisiana as an estate and got an incredible deal on it but it is definitely a fixer upper. The house came with a separate workshop building that was completely built out and had an apartment flat above it for when people come to visit. it has been amazing. The family we bought the house from are the ones that built it. Their parents passed away and no one was interested in taking it on. Needless to say there were very few permits pulled or inspections done when the house was built because it was way out of town. So much of this house was rigged in ways that make little to no sense. 1st off this house has a basement which is a horrible idea on land that's basically a swamp. It's come with a whole set of it's own issues. A lot of the plumbing in this house was done using RV Fittings and all the faucet knobs had the hot and cold on the wrong sides and the knobs turned the wrong way. don't ask me why. There are random pieces of garden hose running from the sumps in the basement to the washing machine discharge drain. We unfortunately discovered the pipes to our septic were angled down towards the house and our cleanout was buried under a foot of dirt.10 ft from the house. Super useful. Our friend who owns a plumbing company had to rent a camera just to figure out where all the random pipes in the house and property go. A lot of the pipes underground were crushed or separated so that's another project to fix. He had to rent digging machines and bring a crew of his guys to find and fix the septic. Thankfully he cut us a great deal or that would have really hurt or house fixing fund. Thankfully he also excepted several bribes of our organic eggs. I bribe all our friends with them to come help us. Our electrical is just as bad. All of the breaker panels are snap lock panels which tend to arc, melt and catch on fire. We had major issues with this when we first moved in because we have a lot of reptile enclosures and aquariums with lamps and pumps. We lost the entire contents of our downstairs fridge due to an arked breaker. This is also why our stove/oven is currently out of order. Thankfully we have a good friend who is a fantastic electrician and is coming to replace all the panels and fix the wiring but he's currently on a big construction job so we have to wait unless we want to pay out of our nose. Buying an old home has a lot of perks and advantages of you are willing to take on the work but it is definitely a one job at a time unless you want to go crazy and stress yourself out
Wow! That is a mess! One thing at a time....
@@SSLFamilyDad oh absolutely! Right now it's unexpected winterization for our animals. I thought I left all this crazy cold behind when we left Oklahoma and moved back to S.W. Louisiana but clearly we brought our winter weather patterns with us!
if those lines are live and any bare and touching that insulation that house could go up fast
So I guess you bought the house as is. But how did the city even allow you to move in with so many codes being broke.
We had no restrictions on our home loan and we bought it as is
Unbelievable! Unbelievable! Match party? Lol
That space gives me anxiety. I would not want to be in your shoes.
I'm no electrician, but even I know that wiring is messed up.
what do i think? agree!! tear it out!!
Wow. If I saw that wiring job when inspecting a house I'd never buy it, no matter how much I loved the rest of the house. No telling how much of that kind of crap is buried in the walls.
Plan on taking some time tracing all that old wiring. Better than having your house go up in flames. Lucky you found that rats nest!
Appalling! God help you!!
Don’t know anything about electricity but that sure looks like a fire hazard
Do your electrical FIRST before anything else! Your family is at risk.
Yuck!!! What a mess!!!
Looks like you'll have to turn it all off. Start from scratch. I wouldn't trust anything.
That's some BS wiring. sucks that someone was that careless
That attic is a nightmare. I don't envy you trying to do anything with it.
What Why Really He LIVES There with His Family !! What is WRONG with You LEAVE IT Right Sounds Like you are HALF ASS Like the LAST Guy that was up in the Attic !
And 17 More Ass Holes Co Signed CRAZY
Bought a 100 year farm house. Removed everything down to the 2 x 4's, 30 years ago. Still living in it & no regrets.
Did you have to get your cit/town to approve the new wiring?
What a mess! I think it is insane to run conditioned air through an unconditioned attic anyway. I took out my heat pump and replaced it with 3 mini-split systems that eliminated all my attic ductwork. I got a >16 SEER system in the process with zone capability. I crank the non-bedroom systems back at night and get even greater savings.
I would rewire that entire attic. I would also inspect every wire in that house. You are really lucky you haven't had a fire. There is absolutely no way you can trust your electrical system.
If it hasn't been too long since you bought your house you might have a claim against the previous owner for undisclosed problems.at the time of the sale. You might talk to a lawyer.
Great work brother!!!! You make it look so easy. I need to do same well figure out how to get ducts to my up stairs in our old farm house. It all takes time. As an electrician always make me wonder what people were thinking when they do stuff. But it all can be fixed. If ever any questions on the electrical hit me up I can help out.
Do like Seven Owls and totally redo the insulation. They do make a special vacuum that will suck out all the loose fill; you can then blow in new , or upgrade. As for the ductwork, you would be better served with solid, like some of the existing. The flexible is easier to use, but the rigid will flow much better.
I nearly screamewhen I saw your electrical. That's one reason I don't really like Romex. My preference is aluminum EMT, or aluminum armored. Just in case mice get in. You're probably best off ripping it all out and starting from scratch. That's what my brother is doing.
Consider getting a Tyvek suits and respirator. The 3M dust mask is ok, but I'd feel better for you if you had better protection. Cheers, from California!
Sweat-equity is the most satisfying equity. You're doing a great job and are an inspiration in many ways!
Right attitude. Previously owned homes, the older they are seems to mean bigger surprises/nightmares. Knowing what the electrics is like up in your attic at least gives you the knowledge to not add too many electrical demands on the current system; there is your ability of preventing an electrical fire for now. It does look like total replacement as each room is remodeled is a good plan of action. Wars are only won after many battles are won first.
It's a blessing to you and your family you found out! You are man enough for the job, and when it's done, it will be well done. One step at a time, brother!
Same guy that wired your place must have moved to GA at some point and wired mine...lol. I'm still finding wiring to fix 5 years later
I’m guessing you didn’t have a home inspection when you bought the house? LOL. Ugh, I don’t envy your position here......I know what my wife would say about that.... “That’s a hot mess!”
I think an electrician owned that house before you. 😂
Also, that duct tape will dry out over time and let go. I'd recommend some of the nice aluminum tape. Having done duct wrapping for an hvac company, it works much, much better.
You have that one bit of ductwork looking like a big Christmas package!! Lol!! Just in time for taking care of this project!! Very cold and a lot of snow out there!! GREAT JOB!!!
I don't envy you Todd. I've had to chase down circuits before in an older home where none of it was done right (similiar to what you are dealing with) and it was a nightmare. I'm thankful I built my own house at a farm my family owns recently and I ran all of the electrical soup to nuts to code. No one in the future will ever find any electrical that was not done in accordance with 2017 code.
It is always so stark just how different the average house is in Australia compared to America. Installing a reverse cycle AC unit is often all the HVAC bases (barely)covered here. Between the wood boiler or furnace, all the ducting, the network of pumps and piping, it is so much more complicated for y'all.
I'm sure many houses are done well here also. But the majority are cookie-cutter designs where every cost is trimmed. And where the developers don't have to live in the houses.
Just found your channel and have learned a lot on many fronts. Glad you recovered well after that mishap with the boar.
Peace.
My 7 year old son noticed that you are not wearing all of your proper PPE (work gloves) when working with the duct work soldier. ;) We enjoy watching your videos and pray for you often brother. Take care and God bless.
Unfortunately it's the best time of the year to work in the attic, cooler than the heat of the summer. Best of wishes in that project.
This would give me so much anxiety. Even if you're comfortable and knowledgable on electrical work you still have no way of knowing where these all come from, where they go, which ones are live… I know you're careful with this stuff but I still gotta say it… Stay extra safe.
Inductive voltage tester tests for live wires without having to expose any of the wires.
Im surprised that place never
Burned down with wiring like
That.
Yeah. That wiring is scary and dangerous.
I bought a 1973 mobile to fix up.The mice chewed the wires to where there was no insulation on the wires in spots.There was no burnt marks. Prolly 20 different spots. Electric is weird.
Good Gravy! How on earth did your house pass inspection when you purchased it?!
It was bought as is:)
Home repair when the home owner was mostly cluekess good ole micky mouse and friends.lets get a case of beer!
As a supervisor on a 20 bldg. property a contractor re shingled all bldgs., thousands of dollars. Well , I noticed many vent stacks for the sewer gas were missing. I inspected every attic and roof and found most pipes were pushed down into the attic. They had covered the holes with shingles. Needless to say they paid dearly for that mistake. As far as attics, squirrels and rats chewed electrical lines , oh what fun. Glad I am retired. People being lazy does not amaze me anymore. Believe me Todd I feel your grief and despair. Who ever did that made up codes as they pleased.
I have done many a remodeling projects but nothing like the mess you have in that attic! I would suggest you invest in a multi tester and some red electrical tape and check ever wire in the attic, mark the hot lines with the red tape and remove the dead lines... then you start tracing the hot lines (one at a time) and find out where they go and what they supply and rewire accordingly. Eat the elephant one bite at a time. As the weather gets cooler (cold), good time to work in the attic and remember SAFETY FIRST! Good Luck...
You saved yourself at least $1,000 dollars by doing Rework on the Ducts and Insulation not to even mention all the energy savings in the future - Good For You! I hope you have some nice manual Dampers to balance air flow to each room. Indeed an atrocious wiring rats nest to deal with.
Don't be frying yourself up there...We will keep on praying for your safety...Might be time to start looking at rewiring most all the house.
Been doing electrical for the better part of thirty years now. Have seen worse, not to say what you have found is good at all. How’s the electrical coming along ? I’ve learned a few tricks or two, any questions don’t bother asking.
WOW!! What a can of worms you opened. Enough bait to supply a dozen fishermen for a whole season. One room at a time. But it could be bridged in the attic with another room all together. Be careful.
Only through the grace of Yahweh, will you get through that work! I, also, do not envy you that chore, but will be praying for Yahweh's strength and wisdom for you! Many blessings from NE Missouri!
How was this not found during the home inspection? CRAZY
Gotta get one before buying! I'm guessing no inspection was ordered.
No home inspector is going to take the time to dig around the blown insulation. Most of them aren't worth the money anyway.
utahgeoff well, who recommends home inspectors? Real estate agents do. If an inspector is too critical and kills too many deals, how many agents will refer him/her in the future? 🤔
Perhaps a home inspection is not required in this particular jurisdiction. Perhaps no building codes. This would have been denied for sure. Maybe SSL can do a Q & A and give us closure.
adam boone most likely done by a DYIer.
I would say to start from scratch and rewire everything. Also , deck the attic. 👍
Ditto. This is why I think NEC should be EMC (metal conduit) like it is here in Chicago. Any bad connections done by DIYers can be safely contained in metal. Any bad wiring can be easily pulled and replaced.
Also, little to no EMI, even if doesn't harm people, it harms TV and FM/AM signals and even *WiFi*
@@shimes424 All electrical wiring should be in metal conduit no matter where you live. You don't want a squirrel chewing your wires.
God bless you and your family
This is a good time of year for working up there. I can see that the heat would be unbearable in the summer.
What about a roll of masking tape and a Sharpie in the attic for labeling with another person flipping breakers at the panel to see what is powered where? Cell phones would work for communication.
I'm getting some of the wiring done in our house and looking up videos on how to run and connect the wiring up. Good thing I came across this video, shows me a lot about wiring. lol. Be careful up there. :)
I love wiring jobs like that. Lol. Great Vid. Excellent Duct work.
A lesson to everyone... GET a home inspection before purchase!
That attic looks like a big rat's nest. I can see why it depresses you. But you are really good at repairing things, you'll get er done.
that wiring would scare the crap out of me
well there's a finite number of things to fix, so after you discover which wires only need to be removed and which wires need to be replaced by a safer gauge and after you add junction boxes for what remains ... it will be done for good
OH MY LORD, that is an electrical NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would think any ducting you remove would either be reusable elsewhere or with the rest of the work you're planning on.