The one thing I would say I disagree with is your interpretation of rayner. I 1000% get how what he did kinda killed yoyr abolity to trust him but consider this and then rethink what u said about how he questions reality and u aren’t sure how he became a captain. 1. Rayner was born likely during a bad time after the burn so his entire life he had to be self reliant and not rely on anyone. Now that type of person being a captain of the starship during that time. Would he awesome because they needed someone who could take a situation with little information and you need to make a quick decision based on your experience and let you know situation they know how to act. The admiral hints at this. I see rayner as a man who is not unlike jim Kirk during the kitamer times….?his whole life was spent in tension with Klingons and he struggled with tie nearing peace which was made worse by death of his son….. imagine how many people rayner saw die causing same time emotinal pain. Would LOVE your thoughts? Remember rayner spent a lifetime living in a triage rich universe where decision had to be made to minimize the damage which meant sacrifices were made. I’m not gonna agree with that. I’m just saying that’s what I think the situation wise.
Hi, @Peaceforall20111! When I said Rayner was questioning reality and I wasn't sure how he became a captain--I was specifically thinking of his response to learning the bad guys have armed a photon torpedo. He says, "Wha?" I was very surprised by this because before that he was presented as the kind of guy who deals with bad news quickly and methodically, as a good captain should/would. Kirk would have some sort of an idea about what to do if Burnham suddenly told him about the torpedo--Rayner basically has no response. His response is to question what is going on--needlessly, since the info was just delivered succinctly. I think he's supposed to be like Kirk during Khitomer, but I don't see exactly what's change that's made Burnham more "with the times" considering she's literally new to the time-period and younger. Kovich sent them on this mission almost with Section 31-type authority. Why isn't Kovich facing an inquiry? Thanks for your input on all this, @Peaceforall20111!
I think Rayner deserves far more credit than he gets. 1. At the end of ep 2, Burnham gives Rayner a "second chance" "just like she got once." Let's analyze that. Let's start with him not wanting to risk his ship to help defend the town. Burnham wants to risk two star ships (with a crew of several hundred) and a mission to save all humanoids in the galaxy on a chance to save a town of 10,000 people. He wants to not risk his ship in order to obey his orders to save all hominoids at all costs. Burnham wins the gamble on the starships, but the bad guys get away with the treasure. And the two ships spend a few days in dock while the bad guys are making progress. I think she was wrong and he was right. (Although to be fair, if it had gone like it should have, the season would be over.) But she is praised and he is forced to resign. 2. There is also the argument they have while Burnham is on the hull of the bad guy's ship in warp. The old man wants to follow his orders to not let the artifact get away at all costs. Burnham's logic isn't clear, maybe she just wants to save the lives of the two bad guys. 3. Burnham got a second chance because an imposter from an alternate timeline released her from prison. She was in prison because she disobeyed a direct order, and as a result started by far the biggest war the Federation had ever seen (until then). She was the first officer on a ship, but her disobedience directly resulted in her ship being destroyed and all crew except her being killed.
@@startreknitpickers5838 I totally get what u mean now about the torpedo; especially when I’m the beginning he knew they wouldrisk it when they nearly distroyed both ships trying to escape. I think burnham is more with the times because when the arrived she was still first officer but realized she had to change and when she did she was happier and more fulfilled. I think she saw that “lost” in rayner. Not to be dunking on old people because I am myself and in my 40s, but Rainer seems much older and I remember he was born in that space of disaster so it’s gonna take him long to adjust. Then it would take price for Burnham who came from technologically developed societies that were connected, even if they weren’t in the same time. The same level of technology. In the 23rd century the federation is much closer in design to the new federation in the show than it was to the tine Rainer was likey raised. A lifetime of living that way really changes you and the discovery crew while they went through transition I honestly don’t feel it’s as big of a transition, especially for the star fleet officers because they’re just doing the same thing now it’s a different time but in the end, they’re really doing the same thing and while that transiton in time may be emotinally difficult I can’t imagine it is more than a lifetime in a universe Rainer lived in
@@startreknitpickers5838 I really need to more about what a red directive means because I feel like the hearing itself was a way to extend the story and I am not sure it would have happened if the mission was so top secret. Informsring is being intentionally withheld and I need to know more. Thanks for the awesome response u rock
The problem of STD is on full display here. In Episode 1 it shows that they have the capacity to make great trek, But as Episode 2 illustrates, They simply dont want to. I think it does accidentally give a tiny glimmer of hope for Academy as this season so far does illustrate more of that sort of passable trek we saw in PIC03 and if this season massively tone down the LGBT/feminist agenda in Academy, There is potential for it to be good. Yet setting up yet another "old white dinosaur" to be another sacrificial lamb to the new world they want to envision, It WILL fail. Im actually leaning more toward fail. Purely based on these 2 episodes. Because there is hidden subtext most people did not pick up on. Accents. They are portraying this universe in the 32nd century as being INCREDIBLY homogenized. Basically all people regardless of species talk with American accents and mannerisms. Suggesting that this form of speech pattern has been adopted and has become dominant amongst species. Now that might be sheer laziness, but it feels more like an intended theme. Much like Rillik and others who are mutlispecies hybrids. Which also reinforces the notion of race/species becoming "nothing but a construct" a thousand years after their past.
@robertl30 This isn't Panspermia in my opinion--as the "Progenitors" say--they directed evolution--they didn't seed life. They went where it was in it's primordial stages.
Thank you so much for the shout out! The response to our latest video has been overwhelming, and we've had a definite surge in subs since you published your video. Thank you! -Mollie 😊
I am unable to watch a whole episode of this show post-season 2...It is just so boring and preachy. The moment the main character starts the season saying "never a dull moment"...you know there are going to be a few; Saru's love interest with who ther name is? the book thing? What really gets me the most is the overuse of cgi, there are no problems to solve anything. Also the fact that I still can't remember the name of any of the bridge crew or the fact that the only straight men are?
The best part of this season of Discovery is that it's THE LAST!!!
Been waiting for your review
Thank you
Thanks for saying so, @Peaceforall20111 - I hope I wasn't too hard on it. Be well!
Absolutely not in fact your analysis is mostly much line with what I think but will send seperste comment
Sheldon is that Will Wheaton?
The one thing I would say I disagree with is your interpretation of rayner. I 1000% get how what he did kinda killed yoyr abolity to trust him but consider this and then rethink what u said about how he questions reality and u aren’t sure how he became a captain.
1. Rayner was born likely during a bad time after the burn so his entire life he had to be self reliant and not rely on anyone.
Now that type of person being a captain of the starship during that time. Would he awesome because they needed someone who could take a situation with little information and you need to make a quick decision based on your experience and let you know situation they know how to act. The admiral hints at this.
I see rayner as a man who is not unlike jim Kirk during the kitamer times….?his whole life was spent in tension with Klingons and he struggled with tie nearing peace which was made worse by death of his son….. imagine how many people rayner saw die causing same time emotinal pain.
Would LOVE your thoughts?
Remember rayner spent a lifetime living in a triage rich universe where decision had to be made to minimize the damage which meant sacrifices were made.
I’m not gonna agree with that. I’m just saying that’s what I think the situation wise.
Hi, @Peaceforall20111! When I said Rayner was questioning reality and I wasn't sure how he became a captain--I was specifically thinking of his response to learning the bad guys have armed a photon torpedo. He says, "Wha?" I was very surprised by this because before that he was presented as the kind of guy who deals with bad news quickly and methodically, as a good captain should/would. Kirk would have some sort of an idea about what to do if Burnham suddenly told him about the torpedo--Rayner basically has no response. His response is to question what is going on--needlessly, since the info was just delivered succinctly. I think he's supposed to be like Kirk during Khitomer, but I don't see exactly what's change that's made Burnham more "with the times" considering she's literally new to the time-period and younger. Kovich sent them on this mission almost with Section 31-type authority. Why isn't Kovich facing an inquiry? Thanks for your input on all this, @Peaceforall20111!
I think Rayner deserves far more credit than he gets.
1. At the end of ep 2, Burnham gives Rayner a "second chance" "just like she got once." Let's analyze that.
Let's start with him not wanting to risk his ship to help defend the town. Burnham wants to risk two star ships (with a crew of several hundred) and a mission to save all humanoids in the galaxy on a chance to save a town of 10,000 people. He wants to not risk his ship in order to obey his orders to save all hominoids at all costs.
Burnham wins the gamble on the starships, but the bad guys get away with the treasure. And the two ships spend a few days in dock while the bad guys are making progress. I think she was wrong and he was right. (Although to be fair, if it had gone like it should have, the season would be over.) But she is praised and he is forced to resign.
2. There is also the argument they have while Burnham is on the hull of the bad guy's ship in warp. The old man wants to follow his orders to not let the artifact get away at all costs. Burnham's logic isn't clear, maybe she just wants to save the lives of the two bad guys.
3. Burnham got a second chance because an imposter from an alternate timeline released her from prison. She was in prison because she disobeyed a direct order, and as a result started by far the biggest war the Federation had ever seen (until then). She was the first officer on a ship, but her disobedience directly resulted in her ship being destroyed and all crew except her being killed.
@@startreknitpickers5838 I totally get what u mean now about the torpedo; especially when I’m the beginning he knew they wouldrisk it when they nearly distroyed both ships trying to escape.
I think burnham is more with the times because when the arrived she was still first officer but realized she had to change and when she did she was happier and more fulfilled. I think she saw that “lost” in rayner.
Not to be dunking on old people because I am myself and in my 40s, but Rainer seems much older and I remember he was born in that space of disaster so it’s gonna take him long to adjust. Then it would take price for Burnham who came from technologically developed societies that were connected, even if they weren’t in the same time. The same level of technology.
In the 23rd century the federation is much closer in design to the new federation in the show than it was to the tine Rainer was likey raised.
A lifetime of living that way really changes you and the discovery crew while they went through transition I honestly don’t feel it’s as big of a transition, especially for the star fleet officers because they’re just doing the same thing now it’s a different time but in the end, they’re really doing the same thing and while that transiton in time may be emotinally difficult I can’t imagine it is more than a lifetime in a universe Rainer lived in
@@startreknitpickers5838 I really need to more about what a red directive means because I feel like the hearing itself was a way to extend the story and I am not sure it would have happened if the mission was so top secret.
Informsring is being intentionally withheld and I need to know more.
Thanks for the awesome response u rock
The problem of STD is on full display here. In Episode 1 it shows that they have the capacity to make great trek, But as Episode 2 illustrates, They simply dont want to.
I think it does accidentally give a tiny glimmer of hope for Academy as this season so far does illustrate more of that sort of passable trek we saw in PIC03 and if this season massively tone down the LGBT/feminist agenda in Academy, There is potential for it to be good. Yet setting up yet another "old white dinosaur" to be another sacrificial lamb to the new world they want to envision, It WILL fail.
Im actually leaning more toward fail. Purely based on these 2 episodes. Because there is hidden subtext most people did not pick up on. Accents.
They are portraying this universe in the 32nd century as being INCREDIBLY homogenized. Basically all people regardless of species talk with American accents and mannerisms. Suggesting that this form of speech pattern has been adopted and has become dominant amongst species. Now that might be sheer laziness, but it feels more like an intended theme. Much like Rillik and others who are mutlispecies hybrids. Which also reinforces the notion of race/species becoming "nothing but a construct" a thousand years after their past.
Panspermia is a very old theory that doesn't contradict evolution at all.
@robertl30 This isn't Panspermia in my opinion--as the "Progenitors" say--they directed evolution--they didn't seed life. They went where it was in it's primordial stages.
Thank you so much for the shout out! The response to our latest video has been overwhelming, and we've had a definite surge in subs since you published your video. Thank you! -Mollie 😊
I'm so happy to hear the good news! Live long and prosper!
I am unable to watch a whole episode of this show post-season 2...It is just so boring and preachy.
The moment the main character starts the season saying "never a dull moment"...you know there are going to be a few; Saru's love interest with who ther name is? the book thing?
What really gets me the most is the overuse of cgi, there are no problems to solve anything.
Also the fact that I still can't remember the name of any of the bridge crew or the fact that the only straight men are?
In today's episode of unoriginal hack fraud trek...