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Next video suggestion: can you talk about randonauting? The places randonatica is sending ppl like the woods and to haunted abandoned places is creepy and the Seattle suitcase incident is the creepiest .. Hopefully noone from the dark web is running that app. Plz if anyone goes randonauting DONT GO AT NIGHT AND DONT GO BY YOURSELF BRING AT LEAST A GROUP OF PPL WITH YOU OR AT LEAST 3 PEOPLE MINIMUM!
Life hit him real hard in the balls (Dont take this as some kind of sick joke i used a poor choice of words and i understand that someone has misinterpreted my message)
I feel so bad for Derek Shaffer. He lost his mom to cancer, his brother went missing under super mysterious circumstances, and his father died in a freak accident. :( Much love & prayers to Derek & his wife and kids.
He could be a killer. Had a guy last year killed the entire family bar 1 brother who was in another state, so he could get up the cash to hand over to a cam girl
Feel bad for him? eh... well he did cheated on his gf before he went missing at least he did his poor girlfriend a favor, imagine the girlfriend worried and later police and people in the bar found evidence that Brian cheated by kissing another woman's neck (being drunk is no excuse). I can't imagine how mix emotions she must felt by I'm glad she moved on and found a true man that loves her
there’s actually a supermarket employee who went missing named Larry Elly Murillo Moncada who died in 2009 when he presumably fell into an 18 inch gap behind a cooler and a wall, and he was missing for 10 years until his corpse was found in 2019 when the cooler was moved, perhaps something similar happened with this case
A kid went "missing" in the 90s, body was found in the chimy of a house across from his family home. Body was found 30 years later when house was being pulled down. Him and a friend meet a kid who said he had fun before leaving one weekend
I'm not being funny, I wouldn't take a lie detector test if I was asked. They're notoriously unreliable - especially since I have severe anxiety - and they can't be used in court anyway.
But why would he jst refuse to do it anyway, well he was his friend right? And when he didn't have anything to hide why would he refuse( obviously be afraid to be inquired). What a dumbass excuse. "A person went missing, not jst any, a friend, & you're afraid to answer saying you have anxiety issues!?"
Yeah. I'm confident that if I'd ever be in the position where I'd be asked to do the test I'd decline. And I'd never talk to cops without a lawyer. Innocent people get jailed way too often to take that risk just to look 'good'.
A few years ago while a good friend of mine was the foreman on a commercial construction site, one of his workers discovered a dead body wedged between two walls. That very area was scheduled to be sealed off the day after the body was found. It turned out the person who died had fallen from somewhere above and there wasn't any foul play. Incredibly shocking that if my friend's worker hadn't looked where he did, that body likely would have never been found. I wonder if something similar happened to Brian.
I'm convinced you can say anything in stage at a concert and the audience with cheer. "Last April a guy named Brian Chauffer went missing." The crowd: YEAAAAHHHHH
My thoughts exactly. A moment of silence would have been far more appropriate. But I suppose the sort of people that go to concerts are too weak-willed for that.
i think it’s really beautiful what pearl jam did for Brian, even though it didn’t lead to anything, it showed that they cared about their fans and they took time out of their concert to promote finding him. glad there are still some good people in this world, it sure doesn’t always feel that way
There's good people. We are just outnumbered. As humans evolve this will change. Hunters will be gone murderers will not exist. Just think about this......one rule of living would change everything, NEVER HARM ANYTHING or ANYONE. Period. Just imagine........
Did you catch the guy in the crowd shouting 'yeah, he's dead'? Not that he knew or anything, but that's something cold to say when someone's asking for a missing person. Cold even by Pearl Jam concert estandards
People cheer anytime eddy vedder says or sings anything, I mean listen to him perform Yellow Ledbetter, you can barely understand every third word and people go crazy when Pearl Jam performs it live.
So lemme get this right...We simply pass off a cellphone ping as bs but search a whole freaking river because a PSYCHIC said to? I have serious questions about these peoples decision making.
Yeah but he's probably in that river. If you have read the book missing 411 a sobering coincidence you might think so too. A pretty high number of college or college age men have been found in bodies of water under mysterious circumstances after being out drinking. It's a crazy phenomenon, there one min and gone the next. Usually very intelligent men also...
There was a case, I forgot what it was about, but a dude had his car in a lake and no one could find him and it turns out he and his car was in a lake. They found out on Google maps. I’m not saying to use Google maps per say, but I think recheck water areas just to be safe. You never know.
@K He's kinda referring to those with his comment. Though not by name since there is little evidence to support the existence of a smiley face killer so he didn't mention it. The phenomenon itself about the dissappearances is real and exactly what he is referring to.
I think the fact that he was intoxicated and the fact that his car and bank account were stagnant hints at Brian dying in some freak accident or getting trapped in that rubble.
I think about all the close calls I've had while sober and trying to be careful. I'm clumsy and make it a point not to tempt fate. I got stuck in a walk in freezer in a private home with 5 other people in the house - one of them the chef who was in and out of the pantry! And no one heard me bagging on the door. I was in there for the longest seven minutes of my life. If the chef hadn't needed the tray he'd come in for, how long would I have been in there? Another time I went down the wrong back-road trying to circumvent a huge pile up on the freeway coming back from California to Vegas, realized I needed to turn around, and my car conked out in the middle of a K turn for no discernible reason. It was 105 degrees. If I hadn't stayed calm and gotten it started again, I would have been screwed. No reception and no extra water. That, and a bunch of other things happened when I was just getting on with my day and was stone cold sober. Get a few drinks in some people and they get ten feet tall and bulletproof and don't realize what they're doing is dangerous, and if they get in those situations, they might not be able to problem solve their way out quickly enough.
@@billblaski9523 I'd be very inclined to believe that is the case. That's just the kind of freak (drunk) accident I would suspect given the circumstances and the locals knowing that there is in fact one there, pretty much seals it.
@@kittyprydexYou sound like a fun person irl :) I genuinely mean that btw. I’m glad you’re still here and kept calm in your situations. And bless that chef for needing that tray for whatever reason. Christ is king
I don’t believe anybody would run away to start a new life while drunk, from the bar. They plan it and leave with their belongings from their home with their car. He didn’t even have his car.
TW: suicide, drug abuse and alcohol abuse. @@thecarrion154 Yes, but generally they would plan it over days, months or even years, withdrawing money, packing bags, etc. If he was truly planning to disappear he would have been planning it for a while. It just doesn't make sense that he would suddenly do this, (he is presumably intoxicated, so that could provide an explanation ig), nevertheless you can't expect someone to premeditate sewerslide or running away in a day, you would need to gather evidence of him gathering his stuff i.e his car or material possessions, In order to justify this claim. Although we have little to no evidence of him having mental issues, things like a bpd episode or maybe intoxication via a drug (because alcohol doesn't generally change your morals- like wanting to run away- it changes your behaviours) could provide an explanation. In addition to this it just isn't logical to leave a place without packing a bag. At his age, it may be safe to assume that he is aware of the dangers of running away. This is still true when you factor in psychosis or common triggers of things like bpd, OCD, etc. I have a very strong theory that he couldn't have just vanished into thin air. Not only this, but the area he disappeared in has an increased amount of criminal activity (compared to other states) and could be the epicentre of something sinister like a kidnapping or worse. As a member of a prestigious university, brian has a lot of potential enemies. As you narrow down potential suspects, a list begins to materialise; - The owners of the club/pub This is seen with their unorthodox response to the situation, in which they seem to be patronising the victims of this situation (almost as if they were waiting for it to happen). They seem to be promoting the murder as some sort of joke, which is sinister in itself. Although the ugly tuna saloona has never been a very reputable, safe, or welcoming environment. This entire situation seems like an attempt at covering up something. Source: i.redd.it/jvnxhmprmpy51.jpg - William/clint florence These people are very closely related to the victim, but that doesn't make them *completely* exempt from criticism. {There has been a rumor that one/or both of them refused to testify, but not only is that not a federal (or even local) crime, it's not a cause for suspicion.{many people don't testify for fear of a lie detector not working, or ptsd/trauma surrounding the police or police brutality, which is clearly the case} - Gang member(s)/terrorists. Unfortunately this isn't rare, and in a statistically dangerous place like ohio, this is most likely the case.
Anyone who thinks running away to start a new life spontaneously is something that ever actually works out hasn't seen the ending of The Graduate, or they took it the completely wrong way. The two run off and elope and jump on a bus, and the final scene of the movie is a close up of their smiling faces, which then slowly fade to looks of concern, then subdued horror over what they just did. Starting over from nothing is foolish romanticism...
I agree. He wouldn't just leave his life like that let alone leave the Bar without notice. Someone there at the Bar did something to him and took his body to cover their tracks. For what reason is a total mystery
@@thecarrion154 I think that, unless there was proof he either took money out of his bank account or had a stash somewhere, there was little chance of him going off to start a new life with nothing (known) missing. I mean, I know some people just choose to wash dishes at diners as they wander from town to town, but that's not the norm and it's not as easy/romantic as some movie might make it sound. It's not impossible to get a job under the table, but what are the odds Brian was both streetsmart enough and ballsy enough to do that over and over AND without anyone noticing that was him?
Man it must really suck for his girlfriend for one, losing her boyfriend with hardly a trace, and two, learning he was actively flirting with another girl before he disappeared. That's bound to be a barrage of conflicting feelings
seriously, i had a hard time drumming up sympathy for this cheating douche after i heard that. meanwhile his gf's out there searching for him for who knows how long after he vanishes...
Thing is that this also happened during the time before our phones recorded all of our positional data, now everyone has a camera, and a tracking device on our phones, it is damn near impossible to become lost like this if you have your phone on you, the only way is really if you don't have your phone on you when you go missing.
I feel like the "only doing this doctor thing till I can start my band" thing was probably a joke. Going to medical school for years, presumably accruing massive debt from such, and then jumping over to a job with no guarantee of any financial gain whatsoever would be... insane.
Not really. I’m a physician and only been practicing for a tad over ten years. I always wanted to educate myself and earn big money so I could do what I really want to do… whatever that may be but it’s my own personal life goal, and of no importance here. I recently turned 40 and now I’m making my 5 year plan to retirement (from medicine that is). Tons of physicians do this. It’s not uncommon. He probably wanted to graduate and then make some money and eventually dip out on society.
Nope not a joke; I’m in a dead end job I don’t like but I only do it because I have to put food on the table, you know how bad I want to drop everything and just go become the next country star?? I literally can’t or else I’d be homeless rn, and I went to school for YEARS to make something of myself, and apart of me regrets it but not really because I am living very comfortably…
I think Clint did something to Brian and needs to just tell the Truth. Brian didnt leave on his own he would do that suddenly without saying a word. His body would have been found. Clint did something and ditched him somewhere later on before suspensions grew.
I read it as a joke, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was telling the truth. I feel his post is something I'd say to be ironic (like, who just plans to be a temporary doctor, right? lol) But also, if he knew himself well, maybe he knew and accepted that he'd get antsy and want to do something else in life? Ken Jeong went from being a doctor to a comedian/actor/writer. It's not unheard of, just unlikely. But not impossible.
I mean lots of people probably plan to work to fund their side hustle/what they REALLY want to do until (if ever) that side hustle becomes their breadwinner. Like say I want to open up a car wash (or whatever). I need money to put up for the car wash. Etc.
Felt bad for Eddie Vedder in that clip of him talking about Brian. Feels like barely anyone was probably listening to him, though hopefully at least his message got out to a couple people who cared.
This. If the cops come at you with a request to take a notoriously unreliable polygraph test, it's time to lawyer up and stop talking to them, because they're trying to stab in the dark for a reason to come after you.
@@evilcam you are right. It annoys me that the video maker talks how suspicious it is but can't see it from the perspective of the people who were asked to take the test
people are getting sensitive bc you didn’t know the guy’s name meanwhile i didn’t even know the band existed lmaoooo. my parents don’t listen to music so i missed a LOT. looked up PJ’s top 5 songs thinking maybe they’ll be like all the other bands i recognized but never actually knew exactly who they were and nope i really had no idea at all this group existed lol
Exhausted med student = alcoholic blackout = disappearance. "He could swing through extremes." (Possible undiagnosed bi-polar disorder?) I know that when my own mother passed away, I completely flipped out. From the day I heard about it, on February 18, to the day of her funeral, March 24, I was in a compete grey-out. I remember nothing of those five weeks. By the time I sought help, in October of that year, I--a successful professional writer--couldn't put a simple coherent English sentence together. Nor could I understand a word anyone said to me. I was hospitalized for sixty days. My point is that anything could have happened to Poor Brian. (I also had an alcoholic blackout many years ago--I was 21--and ended up almost dying in a swamp.) Anything, sadly, is possible. Anything.
This story is still told on campus to this day… I will always remember going up to that bar, which is really strict and only letting 21 year old Dan… So fake IDs were really hard to use at that place… But it was the one connected to the movie theater right on high Street in Columbus… There was more than one person that has gone missing from that bar and just literally vanished into thin air… So creepy…
The fact that his girlfriend stayed literally days and nights physically looking for him, and the last footage was him flirting with another girl, just brokes my heart. As someone with depression, and often mad feelings about running away and vanishing from my problems and loved ones, the only anchor i have in reality is my fiancee. I hope he is alive, but i really doubt that's the case. Often the simple answer is the one, and in this case i believe he just fell drunk in a concrete pit. Either way, this case broke my heart.
Don't forget he was very drunk.That's why he was flirting with that other girl. You do stupid things when you're drunk. I know.When I young I got drunk too.We all do.🍺🍺🍺
If you really care about someone it wouldn’t matter if you were drunk. Alcohol doesn’t make you do stuff against your will, it makes you more comfortable in doing stuff you already want to do.
My theory is that he's there...well his body. There was a case of a 20 year old man that left his house and was never seen again. Until 10 years later, construction workers found his body behind huge freezers where he previously worked at. Maybe Brian got stuck somewhere in the building and hasn't been found.
That’s what I think happened. They were renovating parts of the building the bat happened to be in and there was a construction area that was accessible just outside the bar in the same building. I think perhaps being drunk may have contributed too if he indeed did get stuck somewhere. There’s still the fact that one of his friend’s is shady about it and that raises some red flags, and I still wonder how nobody inside the bar or anyone he was with notice him going missing or walking into the construction area.
If he never left the building, he's still in that building. Somewhere in that building. They found a guy in a grocery store after 10 years between the freezer and the wall. He's in that building!!!!
Maan I was thinking about the same story when this video got into the construction zone part! I was thinking hes definitely in those walls or something terrible.
Brian is probably to be found somewhere between two walls of the building.. men often take a leak at the end of the night drinking before going home and brian probably found some unexpected obscure place nobody would expect and got trapped or injured doing so
The cameras were not on the area the whole time. They were panning around different shots of different areas. He could have left but was not picked up on camera.
But didnt you not hear what was said in video. Every person was accounted for entering and leaving the building, except Brian. In my head though that just makes no sense! Something must have happened to him inside!
I lived in Columbus when Brian went missing. Never really knew any of the details. The fact that he never left the building makes me remember something I saw one time. A man had went missing from his work. No one ever saw him leave the building. He disappeared without a trace. Many many years later, the building was old and I think it sold. The new owner was having the old walk in freezer removed when they found his body wedged behind the freezer between it and a wall. I forget why they decided no one could smell the body but there was a reason. I wonder if it is possible no one saw Brian leave the bar because he never did?
15:13 you can outwardly seem like you are handling grief well, but cancer is a terrible thing to go through and there is a very small amount of people who actually handle there mother dying “well”
the mysterious message came from franklin county. The dead cell ping came from hillard. wouldnt brian wanna stay close to an area he knows? wouldnt he want to fake where he was posting from? they really should keep on this case. i think theyll find him if they keep trying. This case has captivated me for years!
There is a motive for Brian leaving the country... His mother dying, a fight with his gf, and when he asked his girlfriend to "just leave with him". Also, from what ive heard, he probably has bipolar disorder.. But what do you think?
His mother died only 3 weeks prior to his disappearance. That doesn’t seem like a long enough time to just give up and walk out on your life. Usually people struggle with these things for months or even years… 3 weeks is just too fresh for such a rash decision to be made. As for the fight with his girlfriend.. well, people fight with their significsnt others all the time.. no one runs off and starts a new life after a fight, not even after 10 fights. Who reslly knows what happened to him..
@@biller97 That is not something that people just "plan out" It is usually just a very irrational decision. It makes more sense that he wouldve left really close to his mother's passing
Well, didn't anybody ask that girl he flirted with if she had a jealous boyfriend or stalker? Thats what jumps out to me. Someone took him out because he was flirting with that young lady. She even put her number in his phone. It would have been easy for the cops to find her and ask her.
When someone disappears, it's always romantic to believe that they just walked away and started a new life without anyone knowing (ie Brian Shaffer, Maura Murray). But, in reality that is one of the lowest possibilities. The odds these people would never contact anyone they loved again and would never be spotted in the age of social media and cell phones is just extremely unlikely at best. Intoxicated people dying by accident, for example, is something that is far, far more common. In this situation, it seems like Shaffer most likely died by accident or committed suicide while drunk. I'd put the second most likely scenario (and a fairly distant second) that his friend that seemed to be withholding evidence was responsible.
Yeah but there is a motive for Brian leaving. His mother dying, a fight with his gf, and when he asked his girlfriend to "just leave with him". Also, from what ive heard, he probably has bipolar disorder. And if he killed himself he would've most likely been found near there. I think he probably ran away then killed himself in the town where they got a signal, but no one looked hard enough
I'm just thinking, if his cellphone pinged from a cell tower in Hillard, shouldn't they have searched the river there? Even if the ping was a "glitch"?
Pro tip from a criminal defense paralegal: it is not suspicious to get an attorney if you are innocent while being questioned by police for anything. Simply, do not talk to cops when you are being questioned without a lawyer present. It’s smart.
More people should know this. Also lie detectors are completely unreliable and you should not take one. Even if you are slightly nervous it can show that you're lying when you aren't.
@@nathanizabeast Indeed ... Even one of the co-inventors of the polygraph deeply regreted inventing the thing in the first place, as there is no real physiological connection to whether a person is telling the truth, or lying, but basically only serves to measure a person's mental state. For example, someone whom is suffers from a stress/anxiety issue, is likely to be even more stressed, leading to increased breathing, heart rate/plus, blood pressure, and sweating, and the body goes in the F⁴ (Flight, Fight, Freeze, Fawn) mode. Conversely, any person whom is able either consciously, or subconsciously, dampen any/all of those, which include those in the Cluster B of personality disorders, may easily 'defeat' the polygraph with any obvious countermeasures ... Thus, between false positives, and false negatives, it's reliability means there isn't a court almost anywhere, that will allow polygraphic evidence to be entered into submission, or placed on the record. Yet, it has become a routine staple of daytime talk-show television ... which has even worsen its reputation. In fact, one can use it as the very definition of 'junk science', since all it can do is measure a person's physiological state, as affected by how much adrenaline is being released ... And yes, lawyering up, even if you yourself is a lawyer, is a damn smart move, as, guilty, or not, you have the right to legal representation.
Don’t buy hunt a killer. They automatically subscribe you to their monthly plan even when you opt out and then refuse to cancel your subscription or respond to your emails.
I have no idea if this is true as I have no experience with hunt a killer, but this should voted to the top, because if it is, I'm sure Jorge would like to look into it.
The fact that he just vanished into thin air without any trace and whereabouts clearly suggests that something bad happened to him, without a doubt. Considering the fame of his case, it would be impossible for him to stay hidden for so long
I just hope the cheers were just cheers of support and solidarity. Either way, bad concert etiquette. If any musician stops their set with the words "dead serious here" you should take it upon yourself to stfu.
I know this is an old video, but I feel like it is very important for me to point out the only problem I have with it. At 18:00 you say that it is suspicious that he chose not to take the lie detector test (they aren't even really "lie detectors, seeing as there is no such thing; it's a polygraph). Not only is this not true, it's actually harmful and could potentially cost someone their freedom. No one, and I mean literally NO ONE, innocent or guilty, should *_EVER_* agree to take a polygraph. It very rarely helps you in any way and very often hurts you. They aren't admissible in court, but a person who is 100% innocent can easily fail and now you have the police convinced that you are guilty.. just an all around terrible idea.
I mean, that’s how I felt about drawing and going to tech school. Finished 3 years with 3 certifications. I never did anything with my associates degree. Just wound up at a warehouse and doing UberEats. I still draw, but not nearly as much as one should if they intend to persue a career in it. If he’s anything like me [I doubt it], he was probably very fickle. Doctors usually aren’t fickle, but he seems privy to big changes. It’s possible maybe that he dabbled in music at least.
Well at my city's med school there's the story of a guy who wanted to become a priest, but his dad refused completely and pretty much forced him to attend med school and finish his studies (aprox 7 years) and supposedly the guy went to his graduation, received the diploma, went to his father, gave it to him and left to become a priest
Usually these places can’t afford or the necessary placement available for those. Emergency exits are more so for fires or other disasters for the insurance for places.
@@captaincz5763 because security cameras aren't cheap and usually no one is using the emergency exit as it's almost entirely used just for fires and whatnot?
The man was INTOXICATED when he went missing so he probably wouldn't have been thinking of running away and starting a band while he's drunk af. He probably fell in the construction. Or check that girl who he last talked to outside the bar
i was going to say that the lie detector thing isnt suspicious because lie detectors don’t work well and especially dont work well on people with social anxiety or anxiety in general. could be he just didnt want to get falsely accused by something that doesnt work. but then again wouldn’t his lawyer have just said what i said instead of “he didn’t see the value in it.”
That's what I thought at first until I heard about him not wanting anything to do with finding Brian and never contacting anyone in his family again. That's what seems suspicious to me
@@peterpansexual6125 I think Clint might have thought he was the prime suspect, and him pulling out of the case was probably on the recommendation of his lawyer. He was one of the last people in their circle that saw the victim alive, and was probably aware that the others didn't like him. This might lead him to believe that he would be pinned for the disappearance of his friend.
Clint's response was perfectly reasonable. Even more so if he had indeed contributed everything he knew to the investigation by then. Polygraph tests are unreliable bullshit, so refusing to take it and immediately lawyering up is an obvious response to that. As for Clint not participating in the further investigation, that was probably his lawyer's advice. I've heard of such strategy quite often in posts about legal battles - avoid talking about the case, don't interact with the cops more than required from you, etc.
You should always get a solicitor in any official dealings with police or detectives, refuse to say anything until you have at least had a private phone conversation with them. Better still do not answer questions if possible, note down the main questions they ask and dont let them side track you or lead you around and then provide a simple written statement answering the questions with the shortest sentences as possible, single word answers are the best. So many innocent people have got themselves stitched up, best not to take any chances.
Wait, so.. He had a girlfriend and was flirting with a girl at the bar? And his poor girlfriend constantly called his phone worried sick about him?.. ouch..
@@legowhite2 because there is still no real form of consent? When your drunk, you don't really know what you are saying, so saying yes to sex can still be rape, because you don't know what is happening around you. Drunk cheating is still cheating because you are breaking the trust you had with your partner, by being with someone else, which is cheating. You may not be aware of it when your drunk, but you are responsible with knowing how much you can drink. Yeah, in either case you are responsible for how much you drink, but no one should ever have sex with you or anyone when they are drunk, because consent is still not there. Drunk cheating is still cheating, drunk sex can be considered rape.
its honestly dissapointing in some way, like they´re cheering when someone is missing and nobody have any idea of where he might be. not like i dont understand the moment, because the fact that the member of pearl jam mention him is very good so it will be a nice thing for a lot of people there, but the fact that they couldnt even keep a minute in silence is kinda bad tho
Clint refusing to take the lie detector test and lawyering up was actually a smart idea which may have covered him, those things are notoriously faulty and could’ve been used against him when they prove nothing.
I vaguely remember hearing about this, was an osu student, and passed by the ugly tuna saloona many times (only went in once). Very eerie to finally have something resembling a connection.
"He even visited a psychic" Surprised no one already said this but psychics are terrible people that exploit grieving people's desperation. That psychic should be ashamed of himself and reevaluate his life decisions.
Why won't it let me watch this video? It keeps saying "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." I already have restrict mode turned off.
100% agree! Polygraph tests only show responses to questions. They do not detect truth or lie and are not admissible in court. They are only used to gage reaction and to see if they should pursue the individual further but are not a test of guilt. There is also no technical "pass" or " fail," as the results are on a range of reaction. Furthermore, getting a lawyer and exercising your right to council should never be seen as suspicious. It is for YOUR protection.
Brian may have gotten stuck in a confined space in the construction area like a crawl space or down a shaft / wall. The police should have gone back and called the cell phone. They could've listened for it ringing in case it wasn't on vibrate.
@@YeCurry0 He's not. A previous comment before from someone who works in the area is tired of that theory. The building has been renovated several times and they've found nothing.
@@27Flopps Also you don't know anything about the building if you have never been there, he could have been stuck in the construction somehow, you don't know.
Usually when you have a case like this of there being no record of someone leaving, It's usually that they never did leave and they got into somewhere. They couldn't get out of and died in the building.
I think people can vastly overlook how hard it would be to completely disappear without touching your phone, car, or bank account. Something eerie definitely happened to him, or at least I think. I hope this mystery has a conclusion one day.
There’s a channel called Brian Schaffer dead or alive that has new leads that I didn’t know about. Check out the interview with retired Detective Hurst. He mentions there was a point when an automatic camera was going to turn in a certain direction and then doesn’t. They were puzzled about that and talked to the employees but nothing came out . This suggests one of the cameras (perhaps one by a back entrance or door ) was tampered somehow. If so that changes everything and explains how Brian exited the bar OR was harmed in the bar without the camera showing what really happened.
One thing that I always find interesting, is how people think random crime happens so often. A lot of times a friend or family member will off someone and then go along with the random act theory. I seriously don’t think someone is going to want him dead just randomly at a bar.
@@sarahewson3607 People can't imagine that someone they know could hurt their loved ones. It just HAS to be a random stranger, some outsider. But as you stated, statistics tell another stories...
I have been to the Ugly Tuna several times, there is one way in and one way out. You go up the escalator and there is no other exit in that building, unless you jump. Still freaks me out.
@@lucianas4919 if he got out of the bar,there must have been an inside man involved.Someone that helped Brian disappear for whatever reasons Brian wanted to disappear.Someone that to this day knows Brian's whereabouts
It was 2 a.m. No other businesses were open for him to go to. His destination would've either been his apartment or a friend's place if he left the building. Walking home was supposedly dangerous and his ride would've taken him home in a couple minutes. Why didn't he wait? Did he go looking for a bathroom and ended up in the construction area, then gpt stuck in a confined space? Did he leave the building, walk towards his apartment alone, and took a ride from strangers? Supposedly his phone pinged north, but his apartment was south.
So one day Brian tells his fiance he wants her to move on, the he flirts with another girl and puts her number in his phone, then disappears before the trip where he was supposed to propose to her. Hmm. He may be deep in South America.
Jorge is such a good person to watch when learning about true crime stuff. His aim is to lay out the facts and show evidence and different things that could've happened. He doesn't use creepy music to unnerve you, he doesn't use weird wording to make you feel a bit sick. He's just trying to educate and inform, not unnerve and scare. This is what I love about Jorge, as someone who's very easily made paranoid and panicky it's nice for a topic I am interested in not to be a scary and unfun experience. Thank you Jorge for actually enjoyable content that I don't panic over!
And when you start to figure out whodunnit, you get confronted by a mysterious stranger who tells you, "You're getting to close to the truth." Then shoots you and adds, "If you survive, let that be warning to you. If you don't stop snooping around, I'll make sure you won't survive the next time we meet!" Then runs off into the night.
u joke but there actually is something of an "arm chair" investigator community that works with some official channels, not because investigators are lazy, but because they disgustingly backlogged and simply dont have the resources or time to catalogue everything.
Honestly I think he fell into a cubby or hole that isn’t able to be easily seen and suffocated to death. I’ve read some stories like this that people got stuck during a late night or intoxicated and didn’t get found until at least a decade later.
Ok so, me and my friend were just walking through downtown and we stumbled into this theater/bar without knowing about this case at all. The moment we entered the building we both got an eerie feeling. There was just something off about this place; it was completely empty though it felt like we were being watched. When I say this place was empty I mean empty, no people whats so ever... even though there's usually at least 2 security guards in a building this big, especially in the city. Anyway we ended up leaving and talked about it the whole way home but shortly got over the experience. We wouldn't have ever thought that something actually happened in this building due to it being in such a populated area. But about a week later this video appeared on my homepage and the thumbnail looked fimiliar so I clicked on it... only to discover that the eerie feeling my friend in I felt in that building probably wasn't just our imagination, it was most likely him.... I just think it's insane that we felt something dark w/o having any knowledge of what happened. Even weirder that this video literally came to me, he must be trying to communicate. lol.
Oh? Are you saying you were at the Ugly Tuna Saloona? The location of the Ugly Tuna Saloona back 2006 has been renovated into an office and the the current Ugly Tuna Saloona moved to a new location.
@@AngelaMastrodonato nah he’s saying he went to the theater which the bar was connected to. It had an entrance just off screen to the right at the top of the escalators. I’ve been there plenty of times. While I’ll say it is a bit eerie going up those same escalators and seeing the ground he was last seen standing on, the place is completely normal but just has this strange disappearance tied to it.
I would wonder if the girl he was flirting with had a stalker or if the construction next store had been in the middle of pouring concrete? I doubt he would disappear willingly and put his family through all this but people are strange.
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Editor's Note: Since the building was under construction, and the photos of the Ugly Tuna Saloona online are from 2017, I'm not 100% sure where the entrance to the construction site was. I just know it was where Brian was seen heading.
Other than that, I will probably begin uploading regularly again. Took some time off to learn Cinema 4D (let me know what you think!) and I will start streaming again. If there happen to be any Cinema 4D experts reading this, shoot me an email. I'd love to learn more!
Love your videos man im watching your video rn! True crime fascinates me. Ive never heard of this man who disappeared but im interested in the video.
Next video suggestion: can you talk about randonauting? The places randonatica is sending ppl like the woods and to haunted abandoned places is creepy and the Seattle suitcase incident is the creepiest .. Hopefully noone from the dark web is running that app. Plz if anyone goes randonauting DONT GO AT NIGHT AND DONT GO BY YOURSELF BRING AT LEAST A GROUP OF PPL WITH YOU OR AT LEAST 3 PEOPLE MINIMUM!
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yay keep it up man
I luv u
“Brian Shaffer walks into a bar, and he’s never seen again”
It’s like the worst joke of all time
Damn, you beat me to it.
on april fools day too
A lions mane, a menovat and an Omabat walk into a bar...
Yeeeaaaa I didn't think this one all the way through.
I mean, he kind of looks like John mulaney
Omabat true makes the situation all a bit more eerie how he coincidentally disappeared on April fools
I feel so bad for Derek. First, he lost his mom to cancer then his brother goes missing and his father died in an accident.
Life hit him real hard in the balls
(Dont take this as some kind of sick joke i used a poor choice of words and i understand that someone has misinterpreted my message)
@@sharasarah3026 I don't think that's supposed to be funny.
CASTOR uh?
'Said it wasn't funny ,
CASTOR wasnt trying to be funny wtf do u mean?
I feel so bad for Derek Shaffer. He lost his mom to cancer, his brother went missing under super mysterious circumstances, and his father died in a freak accident. :( Much love & prayers to Derek & his wife and kids.
Well said 👍
He could be a killer.
Had a guy last year killed the entire family bar 1 brother who was in another state, so he could get up the cash to hand over to a cam girl
Something ain’t adding up either someone was jealous of those girls or he vanished under the radar 🤔
Feel bad for him? eh... well he did cheated on his gf before he went missing at least he did his poor girlfriend a favor, imagine the girlfriend worried and later police and people in the bar found evidence that Brian cheated by kissing another woman's neck (being drunk is no excuse). I can't imagine how mix emotions she must felt by I'm glad she moved on and found a true man that loves her
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety DIdn't Brian told his ex to move on a week prior to disappearing?
there’s actually a supermarket employee who went missing named Larry Elly Murillo Moncada who died in 2009 when he presumably fell into an 18 inch gap behind a cooler and a wall, and he was missing for 10 years until his corpse was found in 2019 when the cooler was moved, perhaps something similar happened with this case
This does make the most sense. Might have a brawl with clint and they might have pushed each other in that construction site
Ya how would no one smell the dead rotting corpse
@@The_Ladder_Perspective it was in a freezer in a supermarket
@ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ᴇᴄᴄʜɪ freezer in grocery store
A kid went "missing" in the 90s, body was found in the chimy of a house across from his family home.
Body was found 30 years later when house was being pulled down.
Him and a friend meet a kid who said he had fun before leaving one weekend
I'm not being funny, I wouldn't take a lie detector test if I was asked. They're notoriously unreliable - especially since I have severe anxiety - and they can't be used in court anyway.
Yes, I agree, it's not valid, it just base on your anxiety
But why would he jst refuse to do it anyway, well he was his friend right? And when he didn't have anything to hide why would he refuse( obviously be afraid to be inquired).
What a dumbass excuse.
"A person went missing, not jst any, a friend, & you're afraid to answer saying you have anxiety issues!?"
CASTOR he might be falsely accused of something since he’s anxious. the detector might pick up his anxiousness as a lie.
@@rascaloons I can understand that but still doesn't feel good, he was a friend, obviously had been expected more from.
Yeah. I'm confident that if I'd ever be in the position where I'd be asked to do the test I'd decline. And I'd never talk to cops without a lawyer. Innocent people get jailed way too often to take that risk just to look 'good'.
A few years ago while a good friend of mine was the foreman on a commercial construction site, one of his workers discovered a dead body wedged between two walls. That very area was scheduled to be sealed off the day after the body was found. It turned out the person who died had fallen from somewhere above and there wasn't any foul play. Incredibly shocking that if my friend's worker hadn't looked where he did, that body likely would have never been found. I wonder if something similar happened to Brian.
this
Clicked on this comment to write "this", already beat to the punch. But seriously, I strongly feel something like this was the case.
It's possible but idk, the dogs throw a wrench into that whole idea
@@blockyoxwinkle5829 even if the dogs picked something up the police wouldn't say anything. I feel like there is some corruption involved.
@@blockyoxwinkle5829 Dogs can't smell through concrete, thought, but x-ray imaging could find his body, or what's left of it.
I'm convinced you can say anything in stage at a concert and the audience with cheer. "Last April a guy named Brian Chauffer went missing."
The crowd: YEAAAAHHHHH
lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FACTZ i thought the exact same even i was like YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Smash mouth did the hitler salute and everyone cheered lol
@@KortNatali ...Excuse me WHAT they did _WHAT_
@@KortNatali nice :)
My thoughts exactly. A moment of silence would have been far more appropriate. But I suppose the sort of people that go to concerts are too weak-willed for that.
i think it’s really beautiful what pearl jam did for Brian, even though it didn’t lead to anything, it showed that they cared about their fans and they took time out of their concert to promote finding him. glad there are still some good people in this world, it sure doesn’t always feel that way
There's good people. We are just outnumbered. As humans evolve this will change. Hunters will be gone murderers will not exist. Just think about this......one rule of living would change everything, NEVER HARM ANYTHING or ANYONE. Period. Just imagine........
Was thinking the same. They are stand up dudes for sure.
Imagine being such a terrible person that you'll post an anonymous comment in a man's obituary book pretending to be his missing son.
Anonymity brings out the worst in humanity
Well, almost everyone passes through that phase. It's called puberty. I'm still there, I will never grow up. But I love animals, though.
The wonder of the internet
or maybe it was Brian
Trolls gonna troll
eddy vedder: so there’s this man who went missing last april
crowd: YEAHHHHHH WOOOOO
Lmaoooo
Ikr
Did you catch the guy in the crowd shouting 'yeah, he's dead'?
Not that he knew or anything, but that's something cold to say when someone's asking for a missing person. Cold even by Pearl Jam concert estandards
That made me chuckle a bit 😅, I guess they were just happy that he cared enough to mention Brian
People cheer anytime eddy vedder says or sings anything, I mean listen to him perform Yellow Ledbetter, you can barely understand every third word and people go crazy when Pearl Jam performs it live.
The locals think Brian fell into the huge trash compacter they have there and got crushed, that's why they never saw him leave
So lemme get this right...We simply pass off a cellphone ping as bs but search a whole freaking river because a PSYCHIC said to? I have serious questions about these peoples decision making.
Yeah but he's probably in that river. If you have read the book missing 411 a sobering coincidence you might think so too. A pretty high number of college or college age men have been found in bodies of water under mysterious circumstances after being out drinking. It's a crazy phenomenon, there one min and gone the next. Usually very intelligent men also...
Psychic did it. Case closed.
@@bellab9286 kinda similar to the smiley face murders
There was a case, I forgot what it was about, but a dude had his car in a lake and no one could find him and it turns out he and his car was in a lake. They found out on Google maps. I’m not saying to use Google maps per say, but I think recheck water areas just to be safe. You never know.
@K He's kinda referring to those with his comment. Though not by name since there is little evidence to support the existence of a smiley face killer so he didn't mention it. The phenomenon itself about the dissappearances is real and exactly what he is referring to.
Imagine going missing at a place called the ugly tuna saloona
Imagine going missing in Ohio
@@CantaloupeJones 💀
@@CantaloupeJones everyone in ohio should just be counted as missing
Cringe
I can see op living in Ohio and eventually go missing
Don't ask me why
Guy on stage: "So this guy named Brian Shaffer kind of went missing-"
Crowd: **Cheers Louder**
You forgot the hundreds of "uhh's."
“Guy on stage” lol, hard to imagine people exist that don’t know who that is
@@adamjensen2304 As sad as it is, No the entire world is not a Pearl Jam fan.
Right? Lol wtf
Felt like an Eric Andre show skit looool
I think the fact that he was intoxicated and the fact that his car and bank account were stagnant hints at Brian dying in some freak accident or getting trapped in that rubble.
I think about all the close calls I've had while sober and trying to be careful. I'm clumsy and make it a point not to tempt fate. I got stuck in a walk in freezer in a private home with 5 other people in the house - one of them the chef who was in and out of the pantry! And no one heard me bagging on the door. I was in there for the longest seven minutes of my life. If the chef hadn't needed the tray he'd come in for, how long would I have been in there? Another time I went down the wrong back-road trying to circumvent a huge pile up on the freeway coming back from California to Vegas, realized I needed to turn around, and my car conked out in the middle of a K turn for no discernible reason. It was 105 degrees. If I hadn't stayed calm and gotten it started again, I would have been screwed. No reception and no extra water. That, and a bunch of other things happened when I was just getting on with my day and was stone cold sober. Get a few drinks in some people and they get ten feet tall and bulletproof and don't realize what they're doing is dangerous, and if they get in those situations, they might not be able to problem solve their way out quickly enough.
Locals think he fell into the giant trash compactor they have there and got crushed
@@billblaski9523 I'd be very inclined to believe that is the case. That's just the kind of freak (drunk) accident I would suspect given the circumstances and the locals knowing that there is in fact one there, pretty much seals it.
@@kittyprydexYou sound like a fun person irl :) I genuinely mean that btw. I’m glad you’re still here and kept calm in your situations. And bless that chef for needing that tray for whatever reason. Christ is king
I don’t believe anybody would run away to start a new life while drunk, from the bar. They plan it and leave with their belongings from their home with their car. He didn’t even have his car.
A lot of people just vanish and the most important thing is leaving everything
TW: suicide, drug abuse and alcohol abuse.
@@thecarrion154 Yes, but generally they would plan it over days, months or even years, withdrawing money, packing bags, etc. If he was truly planning to disappear he would have been planning it for a while. It just doesn't make sense that he would suddenly do this, (he is presumably intoxicated, so that could provide an explanation ig), nevertheless you can't expect someone to premeditate sewerslide or running away in a day, you would need to gather evidence of him gathering his stuff i.e his car or material possessions, In order to justify this claim.
Although we have little to no evidence of him having mental issues, things like a bpd episode or maybe intoxication via a drug (because alcohol doesn't generally change your morals- like wanting to run away- it changes your behaviours) could provide an explanation. In addition to this it just isn't logical to leave a place without packing a bag. At his age, it may be safe to assume that he is aware of the dangers of running away. This is still true when you factor in psychosis or common triggers of things like bpd, OCD, etc. I have a very strong theory that he couldn't have just vanished into thin air.
Not only this, but the area he disappeared in has an increased amount of criminal activity (compared to other states) and could be the epicentre of something sinister like a kidnapping or worse. As a member of a prestigious university, brian has a lot of potential enemies. As you narrow down potential suspects, a list begins to materialise;
- The owners of the club/pub
This is seen with their unorthodox response to the situation, in which they seem to be patronising the victims of this situation (almost as if they were waiting for it to happen). They seem to be promoting the murder as some sort of joke, which is sinister in itself. Although the ugly tuna saloona has never been a very reputable, safe, or welcoming environment. This entire situation seems like an attempt at covering up something.
Source: i.redd.it/jvnxhmprmpy51.jpg
- William/clint florence
These people are very closely related to the victim, but that doesn't make them *completely* exempt from criticism.
{There has been a rumor that one/or both of them refused to testify, but not only is that not a federal (or even local) crime, it's not a cause for suspicion.{many people don't testify for fear of a lie detector not working, or ptsd/trauma surrounding the police or police brutality, which is clearly the case}
- Gang member(s)/terrorists.
Unfortunately this isn't rare, and in a statistically dangerous place like ohio, this is most likely the case.
Anyone who thinks running away to start a new life spontaneously is something that ever actually works out hasn't seen the ending of The Graduate, or they took it the completely wrong way.
The two run off and elope and jump on a bus, and the final scene of the movie is a close up of their smiling faces, which then slowly fade to looks of concern, then subdued horror over what they just did.
Starting over from nothing is foolish romanticism...
I agree. He wouldn't just leave his life like that let alone leave the Bar without notice. Someone there at the Bar did something to him and took his body to cover their tracks. For what reason is a total mystery
@@thecarrion154 I think that, unless there was proof he either took money out of his bank account or had a stash somewhere, there was little chance of him going off to start a new life with nothing (known) missing. I mean, I know some people just choose to wash dishes at diners as they wander from town to town, but that's not the norm and it's not as easy/romantic as some movie might make it sound. It's not impossible to get a job under the table, but what are the odds Brian was both streetsmart enough and ballsy enough to do that over and over AND without anyone noticing that was him?
Man it must really suck for his girlfriend for one, losing her boyfriend with hardly a trace, and two, learning he was actively flirting with another girl before he disappeared. That's bound to be a barrage of conflicting feelings
He did her a favor.
@@internziko ok?
seriously, i had a hard time drumming up sympathy for this cheating douche after i heard that. meanwhile his gf's out there searching for him for who knows how long after he vanishes...
@@seraphik right? as soon as i saw that part i was like ughhhh
He was drunk sure it's wrong but he couldn't neccesairly help it drinking bringings out the worst of what's in us.
It’s terrifying how someone can just disappear off the face of the earth with absolutely no explanation.
Thing is that this also happened during the time before our phones recorded all of our positional data, now everyone has a camera, and a tracking device on our phones, it is damn near impossible to become lost like this if you have your phone on you, the only way is really if you don't have your phone on you when you go missing.
@@ilo3456 That's why it's so terrifying when you hear about someone going missing like this in today's world.
@@flochforster6892 True the best way to dissappear is to not have your phone.
Someone knows where he is or where he went.
@@ilo3456 imagine the feeling of the families of the folks in flight MH 370 that still hasnt been found
I feel like the "only doing this doctor thing till I can start my band" thing was probably a joke. Going to medical school for years, presumably accruing massive debt from such, and then jumping over to a job with no guarantee of any financial gain whatsoever would be... insane.
Not really. I’m a physician and only been practicing for a tad over ten years. I always wanted to educate myself and earn big money so I could do what I really want to do… whatever that may be but it’s my own personal life goal, and of no importance here. I recently turned 40 and now I’m making my 5 year plan to retirement (from medicine that is). Tons of physicians do this. It’s not uncommon. He probably wanted to graduate and then make some money and eventually dip out on society.
Nope not a joke; I’m in a dead end job I don’t like but I only do it because I have to put food on the table, you know how bad I want to drop everything and just go become the next country star?? I literally can’t or else I’d be homeless rn, and I went to school for YEARS to make something of myself, and apart of me regrets it but not really because I am living very comfortably…
I think Clint did something to Brian and needs to just tell the Truth. Brian didnt leave on his own he would do that suddenly without saying a word. His body would have been found. Clint did something and ditched him somewhere later on before suspensions grew.
I read it as a joke, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was telling the truth. I feel his post is something I'd say to be ironic (like, who just plans to be a temporary doctor, right? lol) But also, if he knew himself well, maybe he knew and accepted that he'd get antsy and want to do something else in life? Ken Jeong went from being a doctor to a comedian/actor/writer. It's not unheard of, just unlikely. But not impossible.
I mean lots of people probably plan to work to fund their side hustle/what they REALLY want to do until (if ever) that side hustle becomes their breadwinner. Like say I want to open up a car wash (or whatever). I need money to put up for the car wash. Etc.
There is something so deeply grievous about someone who just goes missing with seemingly no rhyme or reason.
He probably died somewhere where the body is difficult to find.
Felt bad for Eddie Vedder in that clip of him talking about Brian. Feels like barely anyone was probably listening to him, though hopefully at least his message got out to a couple people who cared.
Yeah he's trying to be sincere and theres people still cheering even though he's just talking
@ICrowbarYourFace towards the end of his speech it would be understandable but even when he began and was all serious they were still being loud
it seemed like the crowd was saying by cheering " wow look at what a nice and caring person Eddie is" instead of "We need to find Brian Shaffer."
@@Mar-pe9kx nah, those where drunken bastards just being loud thinking he was still singing
@ICrowbarYourFace i suppose youre right
Pearl Jam: A man has disappeared
The audience: 🤟👁️👄👁️🤟
🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏🙌👏
it was a bad moment to mention it. theres no way anyone understood what he said. but nice of them to do it anyway.
🎉🥳
duh it's because Brian is Tonio and he went missing to develop his stand
@@theguystealingyourinternet3712 Lmao
Many guys get drunk, attempt to walk home alone, and end up dead, usually in a river, or by passing through a bad area of town.
happened to me once
They would've found the body eventually don't you think?
@@luisdaniellopez4571 Yeah, no body is very suspicious of foul play.
add19455 did you die?
i’m from columbus north high street is a college campus not the safest but definitely not the hood
When police say they searched the building from top to bottom, I'm not convinced they searched the top properly, let alone bottom.
imagine someday he just comes out of that bar and goes home completely unaffected and un-aged like nothing happened
That'd suck for him, considering his dad passed away and his girlfriend has a husband and kid(s) now.
@@megabyte1302 It would
"What year is it?"
Sounds like that'd be a Twilight Zone Episode
@@thomasedison3700 It's basically the plot to Cast Away but without the Gilligan's Island part
Did anyone else think that they were about to watch a guy literally vanish into thin air?
Me, kinda disappointed but oh well
I was waiting for him to get off the escalator and disappeared, but okay
YUP
Yeah what a rip off. Clicking off don't even care.
when i pointing my pointer to the vid and see the short teaser (idk the terms) it looks like what you said, but in the end, it doesn't even matter
I can’t believe he still has never been found. Absolutely horrifying.
"Ugly Tuna Saloona" is an AMAZING name.
Finally someone noticed it
Getting a lawyer is not suspicious, its smart. Anyone who studies law, knows that, even if innocent, always get a lawyer
This. If the cops come at you with a request to take a notoriously unreliable polygraph test, it's time to lawyer up and stop talking to them, because they're trying to stab in the dark for a reason to come after you.
@@evilcam you are right. It annoys me that the video maker talks how suspicious it is but can't see it from the perspective of the people who were asked to take the test
*especially* when innocent.
What if I’m broke
@@SmokeyHavoc excape to mexico
Pearl Jam singer: a man is missing
audience: YEAAHHHHH
lmao that’s concerts for you. it’s annoying
"pearl jam singer" ok
Sounds like quite a few people purchased cocaine.
It's not exactly a good venue for such a thing.
people are getting sensitive bc you didn’t know the guy’s name meanwhile i didn’t even know the band existed lmaoooo. my parents don’t listen to music so i missed a LOT. looked up PJ’s top 5 songs thinking maybe they’ll be like all the other bands i recognized but never actually knew exactly who they were and nope i really had no idea at all this group existed lol
Exhausted med student = alcoholic blackout = disappearance. "He could swing through extremes." (Possible undiagnosed bi-polar disorder?) I know that when my own mother passed away, I completely flipped out. From the day I heard about it, on February 18, to the day of her funeral, March 24, I was in a compete grey-out. I remember nothing of those five weeks. By the time I sought help, in October of that year, I--a successful professional writer--couldn't put a simple coherent English sentence together. Nor could I understand a word anyone said to me. I was hospitalized for sixty days. My point is that anything could have happened to Poor Brian. (I also had an alcoholic blackout many years ago--I was 21--and ended up almost dying in a swamp.) Anything, sadly, is possible. Anything.
He definitely has undiagnosed bi-polar
I feel so sorry for you man. I hope you are doing ok honestly.
A grey out is not a thing. lol
This story is still told on campus to this day… I will always remember going up to that bar, which is really strict and only letting 21 year old Dan… So fake IDs were really hard to use at that place… But it was the one connected to the movie theater right on high Street in Columbus… There was more than one person that has gone missing from that bar and just literally vanished into thin air… So creepy…
They use it as a nice human traffic spot with the lot being right there with emergancy exits
He disappeared on April 1st, either this is just an unsolvable mystery or the most elaborate prank ever.
Josiah Lee fr homie just pulled a big prank
Did you see him? Or is it just 'an elaborate hoax?'
Rumor has it that he roams around that building, ordering drinks and food in secret til this day.
Anyone else catch the hole PRICE TAG OFFER? solve a case alone or with a group? Pretty sure their made up cases......IDK
It’s insane
The fact that his girlfriend stayed literally days and nights physically looking for him, and the last footage was him flirting with another girl, just brokes my heart. As someone with depression, and often mad feelings about running away and vanishing from my problems and loved ones, the only anchor i have in reality is my fiancee. I hope he is alive, but i really doubt that's the case. Often the simple answer is the one, and in this case i believe he just fell drunk in a concrete pit. Either way, this case broke my heart.
Don't forget he was very drunk.That's why he was flirting with that other girl. You do stupid things when you're drunk. I know.When I young I got drunk too.We all do.🍺🍺🍺
@@beverlybarnes3122 already got drunk and my respect for my fiancee never vanished.
If you really care about someone it wouldn’t matter if you were drunk. Alcohol doesn’t make you do stuff against your will, it makes you more comfortable in doing stuff you already want to do.
Same bro
Not only that, but her number was in his phone.
Never ever ever volunteer more to the cops than you ever have to, unless you enjoy being framed
Thank you Jorge for putting the ads right at the beginning and keeping the ads to one minute. That’s pro and it’s appreciated.
lol surprised you can still breathe in there.
Why are you thanking him?? he could have just not had any ads on this one video
@@YeCurry0 Your name is Dylan.
@@chrisw6164 Okay "christipher"
My theory is that he's there...well his body. There was a case of a 20 year old man that left his house and was never seen again.
Until 10 years later, construction workers found his body behind huge freezers where he previously worked at. Maybe Brian got stuck somewhere in the building and hasn't been found.
Debs P I had seen that on UA-cam. Creepy stuff.
That’s what I think happened. They were renovating parts of the building the bat happened to be in and there was a construction area that was accessible just outside the bar in the same building. I think perhaps being drunk may have contributed too if he indeed did get stuck somewhere. There’s still the fact that one of his friend’s is shady about it and that raises some red flags, and I still wonder how nobody inside the bar or anyone he was with notice him going missing or walking into the construction area.
I think he fell in that construction site and they covered him in concrete not knowing he was there.
I believe that could be a possibility as well.
I remember that story from the UA-cam channel infographics. Very odd story that proves the most bizarre can be the simplest answer.
If he never left the building, he's still in that building. Somewhere in that building. They found a guy in a grocery store after 10 years between the freezer and the wall. He's in that building!!!!
Maan I was thinking about the same story when this video got into the construction zone part! I was thinking hes definitely in those walls or something terrible.
@djs alt No doubt lol
They should really do extensive searches into the infrastructure of the building
isn't it warm behind a freezer? how did they not smell him earlier?
@@Tekape the heat basicly mumified him (idk how to write that word)
Brian is probably to be found somewhere between two walls of the building.. men often take a leak at the end of the night drinking before going home and brian probably found some unexpected obscure place nobody would expect and got trapped or injured doing so
This seems very possible.
The cameras were not on the area the whole time. They were panning around different shots of different areas. He could have left but was not picked up on camera.
But didnt you not hear what was said in video. Every person was accounted for entering and leaving the building, except Brian. In my head though that just makes no sense! Something must have happened to him inside!
I lived in Columbus when Brian went missing. Never really knew any of the details. The fact that he never left the building makes me remember something I saw one time. A man had went missing from his work. No one ever saw him leave the building. He disappeared without a trace. Many many years later, the building was old and I think it sold. The new owner was having the old walk in freezer removed when they found his body wedged behind the freezer between it and a wall. I forget why they decided no one could smell the body but there was a reason. I wonder if it is possible no one saw Brian leave the bar because he never did?
Did they identify who it was?
@@coronin8587 it's the infographics show on yt
Title is
employee missing for 10 years found in supermarket
That's a good point. He either ran away or had a freak accident in the building.
I often thought that as a possibility
Yes, I thought of exactly the same case. He could have well died accidently and his body still be in the building
Pearl Jam: “This man went missing. Please call if you have any information.”
The crowd: *cheering*
I thought the same thing lol
what do you expect them to do? like reply "ok" in unison?
@James Town Reddit moment
I put you at 1k
most of em were probably drunk. LOL half of em probably didn't even care of pay attention.
15:13 you can outwardly seem like you are handling grief well, but cancer is a terrible thing to go through and there is a very small amount of people who actually handle there mother dying “well”
One of the strangest missing persons cases I've heard of.
"he kinda went missing" imagine if police used the word kinda too "he's kinda dead" "he's kinda a criminal" "you're kinda arrested"
You’re not fully arrested,just kind of arrested
"you kinda broke the law"
you probably have the right to remain sorta silent.
I kinda commited 7 war crimes in 3 countries
I kinda got charges for kinda selling black tar heroin
Everyone here talking about Brians case and Pearl Jam, while I'm sitting here wondering what kind of name *ugly tuna saloona* is?
Tacky tourist trap
Yeah, exactly. There's something weird with it, and I think they're involved in some way.
An awesome name
Hmm kinda tacky....
a great one, thats what it is.
the mysterious message came from franklin county. The dead cell ping came from hillard. wouldnt brian wanna stay close to an area he knows? wouldnt he want to fake where he was posting from? they really should keep on this case. i think theyll find him if they keep trying. This case has captivated me for years!
There is a motive for Brian leaving the country... His mother dying, a fight with his gf, and when he asked his girlfriend to "just leave with him". Also, from what ive heard, he probably has bipolar disorder.. But what do you think?
His mother died only 3 weeks prior to his disappearance. That doesn’t seem like a long enough time to just give up and walk out on your life. Usually people struggle with these things for months or even years… 3 weeks is just too fresh for such a rash decision to be made.
As for the fight with his girlfriend.. well, people fight with their significsnt others all the time.. no one runs off and starts a new life after a fight, not even after 10 fights. Who reslly knows what happened to him..
@@biller97 That is not something that people just "plan out" It is usually just a very irrational decision. It makes more sense that he wouldve left really close to his mother's passing
Well, didn't anybody ask that girl he flirted with if she had a jealous boyfriend or stalker? Thats what jumps out to me. Someone took him out because he was flirting with that young lady. She even put her number in his phone. It would have been easy for the cops to find her and ask her.
idk that a boyfriend would’ve reacted that quickly to some flirting, given that he disappeared that same night
U really think the FBI didn’t consider this possibility?
@@TheGreyGhost_of43rd Well, it's a plot thread what was left dangling in the video.
@@lugbzurg8987 or the girls he was talking to lured him into a trap I kown it sounds ridiculous but that's just my opinion
@@charlottestreet3301 you're right, that does sound ridiculous.
Imagine the idea of Brian having begun a new life as someone else, and him watching this video.
Maybe he changed his name to Ethan Stones?
@@quasidiem99 He could be you! He could be me! He could even be--
hey lol
I...errrrr, Brian, would be loving this, i think
blameitonjorge IS Brian
The fact that Eddie Vetter made an announcement at his concert to find him was really sweet.
*Eddie Vedder :)
Yeah, it was sweet. Did really in a sweet great way!
That's Eddie a truly compassionate individual.
Yes too bad everyone treated it like a guitar solo
Vedder is a sweet dude
eddie is a truly noble soul.
When someone disappears, it's always romantic to believe that they just walked away and started a new life without anyone knowing (ie Brian Shaffer, Maura Murray). But, in reality that is one of the lowest possibilities. The odds these people would never contact anyone they loved again and would never be spotted in the age of social media and cell phones is just extremely unlikely at best. Intoxicated people dying by accident, for example, is something that is far, far more common. In this situation, it seems like Shaffer most likely died by accident or committed suicide while drunk. I'd put the second most likely scenario (and a fairly distant second) that his friend that seemed to be withholding evidence was responsible.
I think its even possible that he knows Brian killed himself OR saw him die accidentally and didn't want to become a suspect so he lawyered up.
Yeah but there is a motive for Brian leaving. His mother dying, a fight with his gf, and when he asked his girlfriend to "just leave with him". Also, from what ive heard, he probably has bipolar disorder. And if he killed himself he would've most likely been found near there. I think he probably ran away then killed himself in the town where they got a signal, but no one looked hard enough
I just feel so sad for Derek. He lost every member of his family by a diferent kind of tragedy. Just hope he's doing better now
His brother died?
@@carm383 who knows? He's gone.
Thankfully he had a wife who seems to love him very much. If I had lost all of my family like that I don't know what I'd do.
@Jordan France Brian yes, Derek not so much
I know Randy gets hit by a random branch falling from a tree… as happens all the time.
I'm just thinking, if his cellphone pinged from a cell tower in Hillard, shouldn't they have searched the river there? Even if the ping was a "glitch"?
I was thinking that too.
@Rando yep
Nah too much work
16:41 There is no evidence that Brian's body was in water.
The ping from another tower in Hilliard would not be a system glitch. The phone had to be around the area
No way someone would torture themselves with exams just to run away
pearl jam: this man is missing
audience: *applause*
Pro tip from a criminal defense paralegal: it is not suspicious to get an attorney if you are innocent while being questioned by police for anything. Simply, do not talk to cops when you are being questioned without a lawyer present. It’s smart.
More people should know this. Also lie detectors are completely unreliable and you should not take one. Even if you are slightly nervous it can show that you're lying when you aren't.
@@troywallace7011 which you likely will be nervous, because who wouldn't be when hooked up to a machine being questioned?
@@nathanizabeast I SWEAR TO GOD STEVE WILKOS IM NOT LYING!!!!
@@nathanizabeast
Indeed ...
Even one of the co-inventors of the polygraph deeply regreted inventing the thing in the first place, as there is no real physiological connection to whether a person is telling the truth, or lying, but basically only serves to measure a person's mental state.
For example, someone whom is suffers from a stress/anxiety issue, is likely to be even more stressed, leading to increased breathing, heart rate/plus, blood pressure, and sweating, and the body goes in the F⁴ (Flight, Fight, Freeze, Fawn) mode.
Conversely, any person whom is able either consciously, or subconsciously, dampen any/all of those, which include those in the Cluster B of personality disorders, may easily 'defeat' the polygraph with any obvious countermeasures ...
Thus, between false positives, and false negatives, it's reliability means there isn't a court almost anywhere, that will allow polygraphic evidence to be entered into submission, or placed on the record.
Yet, it has become a routine staple of daytime talk-show television ... which has even worsen its reputation. In fact, one can use it as the very definition of 'junk science', since all it can do is measure a person's physiological state, as affected by how much adrenaline is being released ...
And yes, lawyering up, even if you yourself is a lawyer, is a damn smart move, as, guilty, or not, you have the right to legal representation.
You are not a criminal defense paralegal
Don’t buy hunt a killer. They automatically subscribe you to their monthly plan even when you opt out and then refuse to cancel your subscription or respond to your emails.
Maybe you have to solve one last mystery in the form of the cancellation lmao
@@Dagger-th2ik DOG 😂😂
Omg really?? Did this happen to you??
I have no idea if this is true as I have no experience with hunt a killer, but this should voted to the top, because if it is, I'm sure Jorge would like to look into it.
if this is happening to anyone call your bank they will block hunt a killer from charging your card
I feel really bad for Derek. He lost everyone in his immediate family
I'm in that same boat... It's a nightmare
The fact that he just vanished into thin air without any trace and whereabouts clearly suggests that something bad happened to him, without a doubt. Considering the fame of his case, it would be impossible for him to stay hidden for so long
That Pearl Jam thing was so awkward
“There’s a young man that’s gone missing...”
“WOOOOOOO YEAHHHHHHH”
I just hope the cheers were just cheers of support and solidarity. Either way, bad concert etiquette. If any musician stops their set with the words "dead serious here" you should take it upon yourself to stfu.
Eddie Vedder is satanic. Look into it.
@@conceptualmessiah01 ...and?
I bet that's Brian cheering himself. Lol
They didn't understand and was still in the moment
This is the most elaborate "a man walks into a bar" joke ever
Yan DJ lol this made my dad
@E. Yan DJ made his dad.
You made my dad too
he probably forgot how the joke continues thus vanishing into thin air
Gold.
What if he's still in the mall/Bar?
Like, his body could be hidden somewhere in the building.
Its just super weird that nobody is considering this.
I know this is an old video, but I feel like it is very important for me to point out the only problem I have with it. At 18:00 you say that it is suspicious that he chose not to take the lie detector test (they aren't even really "lie detectors, seeing as there is no such thing; it's a polygraph). Not only is this not true, it's actually harmful and could potentially cost someone their freedom. No one, and I mean literally NO ONE, innocent or guilty, should *_EVER_* agree to take a polygraph. It very rarely helps you in any way and very often hurts you. They aren't admissible in court, but a person who is 100% innocent can easily fail and now you have the police convinced that you are guilty.. just an all around terrible idea.
Oh yeah this whole 5 years at medical school to become doctor stuff is just my side hustle. My real goal is to start a band..
Follow your dreams,follow your heart and shred that geetar!!
I mean, that’s how I felt about drawing and going to tech school.
Finished 3 years with 3 certifications. I never did anything with my associates degree. Just wound up at a warehouse and doing UberEats. I still draw, but not nearly as much as one should if they intend to persue a career in it.
If he’s anything like me [I doubt it], he was probably very fickle. Doctors usually aren’t fickle, but he seems privy to big changes. It’s possible maybe that he dabbled in music at least.
Well thats the offsprings backstory
Well at my city's med school there's the story of a guy who wanted to become a priest, but his dad refused completely and pretty much forced him to attend med school and finish his studies (aprox 7 years) and supposedly the guy went to his graduation, received the diploma, went to his father, gave it to him and left to become a priest
You can start a band and still study med.
WHY would you have an EMERGENCY exit with no cameras?! To me THAT is where you would want to have cameras the most.
why?
Usually these places can’t afford or the necessary placement available for those. Emergency exits are more so for fires or other disasters for the insurance for places.
@@amarreezlan7131 Why wouldn't you? If I was running a store, I'd like to install cameras in every edge necessary
Because cases like this are extremely rare and don't make financial sense for most locations.
@@captaincz5763 because security cameras aren't cheap and usually no one is using the emergency exit as it's almost entirely used just for fires and whatnot?
The man was INTOXICATED when he went missing so he probably wouldn't have been thinking of running away and starting a band while he's drunk af. He probably fell in the construction. Or check that girl who he last talked to outside the bar
VERY well put together
i was going to say that the lie detector thing isnt suspicious because lie detectors don’t work well and especially dont work well on people with social anxiety or anxiety in general. could be he just didnt want to get falsely accused by something that doesnt work. but then again wouldn’t his lawyer have just said what i said instead of “he didn’t see the value in it.”
That's what I thought at first until I heard about him not wanting anything to do with finding Brian and never contacting anyone in his family again. That's what seems suspicious to me
@@peterpansexual6125 I think Clint might have thought he was the prime suspect, and him pulling out of the case was probably on the recommendation of his lawyer.
He was one of the last people in their circle that saw the victim alive, and was probably aware that the others didn't like him. This might lead him to believe that he would be pinned for the disappearance of his friend.
Oh hey, lie detector don't work on me? I finally found my speciality!
Clint's response was perfectly reasonable. Even more so if he had indeed contributed everything he knew to the investigation by then.
Polygraph tests are unreliable bullshit, so refusing to take it and immediately lawyering up is an obvious response to that.
As for Clint not participating in the further investigation, that was probably his lawyer's advice. I've heard of such strategy quite often in posts about legal battles - avoid talking about the case, don't interact with the cops more than required from you, etc.
You should always get a solicitor in any official dealings with police or detectives, refuse to say anything until you have at least had a private phone conversation with them. Better still do not answer questions if possible, note down the main questions they ask and dont let them side track you or lead you around and then provide a simple written statement answering the questions with the shortest sentences as possible, single word answers are the best.
So many innocent people have got themselves stitched up, best not to take any chances.
Wait, so.. He had a girlfriend and was flirting with a girl at the bar? And his poor girlfriend constantly called his phone worried sick about him?.. ouch..
He was probably under the effects of the alcohol.
He did tell her to move on and find someone else, so....
James McHale drunk cheating is still cheating
@@legowhite2 what?
@@legowhite2 because there is still no real form of consent? When your drunk, you don't really know what you are saying, so saying yes to sex can still be rape, because you don't know what is happening around you. Drunk cheating is still cheating because you are breaking the trust you had with your partner, by being with someone else, which is cheating. You may not be aware of it when your drunk, but you are responsible with knowing how much you can drink. Yeah, in either case you are responsible for how much you drink, but no one should ever have sex with you or anyone when they are drunk, because consent is still not there. Drunk cheating is still cheating, drunk sex can be considered rape.
The crowd cheering for Eddie talking about a missing person....
Great video you are awesome at doing these keep them coming one of my favorite channels!!!!
pearl jam: one of our fans went missing
the audience: *cheering intensifies*
its honestly dissapointing in some way, like they´re cheering when someone is missing and nobody have any idea of where he might be. not like i dont understand the moment, because the fact that the member of pearl jam mention him is very good so it will be a nice thing for a lot of people there, but the fact that they couldnt even keep a minute in silence is kinda bad tho
I couldnt stop laughing at that lmfao
@@Practicalinvestments yeah, its like it brings different emotions
Eddie Vedder would be so trashed at his shows I'm sure nobody even knew what he said
If I hadn't seen the comments beforehand I'd have thought the cheers were encouragement about finding him and "he's one of us"
Mom killed by cancer.
Brother taken by who knows what.
Father dies of freak tree accident.
Other brother left dying of guilt.
This is fkd up.
ikr rlly rlly unlucky
Nothing bad ever happens to the Shaffers
Pretty good ice breaker for water cooler conversation at your job
Curse
Mother nature didn't like them
So proud of of the band for throwing it out there.
Wohoooo yeahhh.... lol
Returning to a classic after 2 years
Clint refusing to take the lie detector test and lawyering up was actually a smart idea which may have covered him, those things are notoriously faulty and could’ve been used against him when they prove nothing.
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about.
You can’t go purely on the lie detector that’s not solid evidence so he would have been fine if he truely had nothing to do with it
This, ALWAYS lawyer whether you're as guilty as sin or as innocent as Jesus, you always lawyer up.
@@michaelmantinaos8330 you’d be surprised by the amount of corrupt cases that use it as a way to put the blame on someone
@@jamiezingsworld5887 yeah I believe it the amount of dodgy convictions I’ve seen and read about
"The Ugly Tuna Saloona" is an outstanding name for an establishment
*outstanding* indeed
It really is. A+ name
Yes
makes me think of spongebob idk
Im from Columbus. I've been there before. It was a horrible place with rude employees 😒
This is one of the best youtube videos about Brian Shaffer.
I vaguely remember hearing about this, was an osu student, and passed by the ugly tuna saloona many times (only went in once). Very eerie to finally have something resembling a connection.
"He even visited a psychic"
Surprised no one already said this but psychics are terrible people that exploit grieving people's desperation. That psychic should be ashamed of himself and reevaluate his life decisions.
He's morally incorrect but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta to make money. As long as it's not illegal or physically harming anyone.
@@yumiko523 Hitmen make good money I hear.
@@mikeydcjr yes, what's the joke here?
@@yumiko523 Joke?
@@mikeydcjr what's your point?
Since he doesn’t have a schedule, I get surprised every time I get notified. I’ve been watching since 2016.
Me too dude
Same
exidude28 yeah
@Boiled Egg nice
@Boiled Egg lol cool
Why won't it let me watch this video? It keeps saying "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." I already have restrict mode turned off.
Try again. I got that and was able to click through.
this channel is so good
eddie: brian shaffer is MISSING
crowd: WHOOOOO! YEAAAHHHH! PEARRRL JAM!
The intention was praiseworthy, but the heated up crowd couldn't possibly be receptive about it.
Your pfp- oh my God that cursed cartoon-
@@dx.feelgood5825 you know of it too?
@@mickytherat8020 my pfp is literally John Lennon of course I know of it, being in this cursed fandom
I disagree about refusing to take a 'lie detector test' being suspicious. There is no benefit to do one, and no lawyer would ever advise you to do one
I agree. If you’re stressed, anxious, or even suffering from a mental illness then what’s the point?
Also, the tests aren't accurate
Yeah those tests have been proven to be bs fake science and are responsible for lots of innocent people being convicted and vice-versa
If your heartrate rises or start breathing faster they say its how they detect lies.
100% agree!
Polygraph tests only show responses to questions. They do not detect truth or lie and are not admissible in court. They are only used to gage reaction and to see if they should pursue the individual further but are not a test of guilt. There is also no technical "pass" or " fail," as the results are on a range of reaction. Furthermore, getting a lawyer and exercising your right to council should never be seen as suspicious. It is for YOUR protection.
Brian may have gotten stuck in a confined space in the construction area like a crawl space or down a shaft / wall. The police should have gone back and called the cell phone. They could've listened for it ringing in case it wasn't on vibrate.
If the phone was on vibrate, then couldn’t you hear that too? If it was up against a wall you should be able to slightly feel the vibration.
That terrifying to think that he is is still in that building....
@@YeCurry0 He's not. A previous comment before from someone who works in the area is tired of that theory. The building has been renovated several times and they've found nothing.
@@27Flopps I meant that its terrifying to think that he MIGHT be still in that building
@@27Flopps Also you don't know anything about the building if you have never been there, he could have been stuck in the construction somehow, you don't know.
Usually when you have a case like this of there being no record of someone leaving, It's usually that they never did leave and they got into somewhere. They couldn't get out of and died in the building.
I think people can vastly overlook how hard it would be to completely disappear without touching your phone, car, or bank account. Something eerie definitely happened to him, or at least I think. I hope this mystery has a conclusion one day.
There’s a channel called Brian Schaffer dead or alive that has new leads that I didn’t know about. Check out the interview with retired Detective Hurst. He mentions there was a point when an automatic camera was going to turn in a certain direction and then doesn’t. They were puzzled about that and talked to the employees but nothing came out . This suggests one of the cameras (perhaps one by a back entrance or door ) was tampered somehow. If so that changes everything and explains how Brian exited the bar OR was harmed in the bar without the camera showing what really happened.
But how could he get away to start a new life while being drunk?! I'm proud I always find somehow home...
One thing that I always find interesting, is how people think random crime happens so often. A lot of times a friend or family member will off someone and then go along with the random act theory. I seriously don’t think someone is going to want him dead just randomly at a bar.
@@sarahewson3607 People can't imagine that someone they know could hurt their loved ones. It just HAS to be a random stranger, some outsider. But as you stated, statistics tell another stories...
@@ingridrodriguez3273 I saw that! This made me believe that someone who worked there had something to do with it. Possibly a bouncer or employee
I have been to the Ugly Tuna several times, there is one way in and one way out. You go up the escalator and there is no other exit in that building, unless you jump. Still freaks me out.
I'm surprised it hasn't been remodelled because having only 1 exit breaks fire code.
Cossette, I have read that there were a few other ways he could have gotten put of the bar, aside from the main exit/entrance.
@@connoc5078 It was actually remodeled into an office building and the bar moved a few blocks north
@@lucianas4919 if he got out of the bar,there must have been an inside man involved.Someone that helped Brian disappear for whatever reasons Brian wanted to disappear.Someone that to this day knows Brian's whereabouts
@@arcticwind1368 That is definitely a possibility. Whether he left on his own accord, or something nefarious happened to him, someone knows something.
It was 2 a.m. No other businesses were open for him to go to. His destination would've either been his apartment or a friend's place if he left the building. Walking home was supposedly dangerous and his ride would've taken him home in a couple minutes. Why didn't he wait? Did he go looking for a bathroom and ended up in the construction area, then gpt stuck in a confined space? Did he leave the building, walk towards his apartment alone, and took a ride from strangers? Supposedly his phone pinged north, but his apartment was south.
So one day Brian tells his fiance he wants her to move on, the he flirts with another girl and puts her number in his phone, then disappears before the trip where he was supposed to propose to her. Hmm. He may be deep in South America.
Jorge is such a good person to watch when learning about true crime stuff. His aim is to lay out the facts and show evidence and different things that could've happened. He doesn't use creepy music to unnerve you, he doesn't use weird wording to make you feel a bit sick. He's just trying to educate and inform, not unnerve and scare. This is what I love about Jorge, as someone who's very easily made paranoid and panicky it's nice for a topic I am interested in not to be a scary and unfun experience. Thank you Jorge for actually enjoyable content that I don't panic over!
It definitely helps that Jorge's voice is like butter drippin' off a hot biscuit.
As i am listening to creepy music ok
"he doesn't use creepy music"
Well, his Lost Media series is presented pretty creepily, at least in the transition parts.
Yep, unlike some other UA-camrs *cough* Nexpo *cough* that dramatize everything.
@@Dandybunnykbm_blurblur eleanor neale is also super super respectful when she reports on true crime cases ! she reminds me alot of kendall rae
Plot Twist: Hunt A Killer is actually real cases but detectives get you to do it because they're lazy
And when you start to figure out whodunnit, you get confronted by a mysterious stranger who tells you, "You're getting to close to the truth." Then shoots you and adds, "If you survive, let that be warning to you. If you don't stop snooping around, I'll make sure you won't survive the next time we meet!" Then runs off into the night.
Psychof1st Sure man
u joke but there actually is something of an "arm chair" investigator community that works with some official channels, not because investigators are lazy, but because they disgustingly backlogged and simply dont have the resources or time to catalogue everything.
i actually thought that
Oh it's Hunt A Killer ? I thought it's Hunter Killer lmfao
Honestly I think he fell into a cubby or hole that isn’t able to be easily seen and suffocated to death. I’ve read some stories like this that people got stuck during a late night or intoxicated and didn’t get found until at least a decade later.
Ok so, me and my friend were just walking through downtown and we stumbled into this theater/bar without knowing about this case at all. The moment we entered the building we both got an eerie feeling. There was just something off about this place; it was completely empty though it felt like we were being watched. When I say this place was empty I mean empty, no people whats so ever... even though there's usually at least 2 security guards in a building this big, especially in the city. Anyway we ended up leaving and talked about it the whole way home but shortly got over the experience. We wouldn't have ever thought that something actually happened in this building due to it being in such a populated area. But about a week later this video appeared on my homepage and the thumbnail looked fimiliar so I clicked on it... only to discover that the eerie feeling my friend in I felt in that building probably wasn't just our imagination, it was most likely him.... I just think it's insane that we felt something dark w/o having any knowledge of what happened. Even weirder that this video literally came to me, he must be trying to communicate. lol.
He’s trying to get people to let him free after so many years
Oh? Are you saying you were at the Ugly Tuna Saloona? The location of the Ugly Tuna Saloona back 2006 has been renovated into an office and the the current Ugly Tuna Saloona moved to a new location.
I don't know how or why you connected your story with his.
@@AngelaMastrodonato nah he’s saying he went to the theater which the bar was connected to. It had an entrance just off screen to the right at the top of the escalators. I’ve been there plenty of times. While I’ll say it is a bit eerie going up those same escalators and seeing the ground he was last seen standing on, the place is completely normal but just has this strange disappearance tied to it.
Eddie Vedder: Seriously you guys if you have any tips please contact crime stoppers...
Everyone: 🤪🤪🤪🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🎉🎉🎉🎊🎊🎊 YEAHH
Lmaoo
Lmfao
😂
The Eddie call out on stage had me close to tears! Too bad it didn't lead anywhere...
@@chucklebutt4470 Really, tears?! Grow tf up.
I feel like rule number one when going out with friends is *never leave without your friends*
This is useless to the mystery gang whenever they we're investigating something
@@leetsUpr3m3 😂😂
@@leetsUpr3m3 ĺĺ
Unless your my dad he leaves everything before everyone friends or fam and ends up at home or some restaurant
Seriously! Has no one heard of the buddy system?
Amazing content
I would wonder if the girl he was flirting with had a stalker or if the construction next store had been in the middle of pouring concrete? I doubt he would disappear willingly and put his family through all this but people are strange.