So would you be willing to sacrifice speed and handling for a specific look, when you can't even tell, when you're playing with it🤪, I'm not going to get an underperforming RC car just for the name brand
The UDR isn’t for bashing. It’s a scale truck, to run in trophy truck-style conditions. The Mojave is very cool, even in stock form, but it’s a very different truck. It’s like comparing cheddar to parmesan...
Had UDR for 2 years now, was one of the first to get it... I built another one fully upgraded as a shelf queen💖 This might seem hard to believe that 2 year of mild to moderate bashing and lotta jumping and roll overs with a stock UDR... NOTHING broken. nothing. I did replace the front skid plate, a bit banged up and scratched, still going strong! Just noticed my tires need changing especially the front ones. that's to be expected no matter what RC. Also I did replace the servo a few times😁 Other than that a real tough cookie IMHO💖 Just like the ARRMA💖 Get both if you have the coin, I promise one won't be disappointed wich ever brand one goes with.
I'm doing exactly the same. Bashed on a losi baja rey raptor and then bought a second one with all the carbon fiber and aluminum parts I could find from Exotek,HR,GPM,TeamLosi,SSD,Proline,RCscrews,WinterEvening etc. Doing the same with a second Mojave v2💙 -you have any plans for a second parts shelfqueen?
Hahah if I not wrong all I see ar vitavon aluminum parts. Don't affect in all too the weight. Just simple arrma is more power on 6s . Don't come with that. There are always some pretexts when saying that the udr has more weight. please
@@Youworstnightmare77 we now know which one of these you bought. You're an arrma fanboy. I love how people bash whichever rc they don't own. Congrats on spending an $400 more than the UDR costs and then bragging about it being better. Oh yeah, the Xmaxx fanboys will laugh at your mojave.
@@Youworstnightmare77 You're right that the Mohave is faster out of the box, but you're wrong to say that the Vitavon parts don't add much weight. When I compare my UDR which has tons of Vitavon parts (not even as much as Exo does) with my brothers bone stock UDR, mine is _considerably_ heavier - at least several pounds heavier. And because of that it does slow it down noticeably.
Come on all the time if to mod its to heavy is not its to fragile. You need to know that if with the mods get more weight you need to mod the gears diff etc..I'm my right... it's like a real trophy truck more power means more weight too so I don't know what you talking about .
@@B3GINNER bro I have 2 udr in the past and honestly I just sold my 3rd udr I buy it cause I like the looks but honestly that truck its to fragile if you bashing hard I know you ar traxxas little boy 👦 but the true arrma have more power toughest and fastest that traxxas I have the xmaxx.8s too in the pass and that thing I just a tank so fkin heavy to send it in the air and broken easily too. So u can came a tell me about the udr or the xmaxx those ar so popular for "bashing" but if you want a bash hard. A real deal get the mojave kraton. the talion notorious or outcast
I’ve not seen one comparison that favours the UDR over the Mojave. Thank Christ I had the chance to drive a Mojave before I went out and bought the UDR. As much as I like the look of the UDR, I like driving a great RC car a lot more. So, I’m glad a went with the Mojave. And just a side bar to the toughness of the Mojave, I smashed the right side of mine into a wall at 100kmh, and all I broke was the front and rear right side lower arms and the screw of one of the shocks. Cost about $20 to repair and about 15 minutes of my time...well worth the fun I had crashing it!! 😉
It's simple really. If you want to bash and do jumps; get the mojave or any other truck really. If you want scale realism and offroad racing, get the udr. The mojave does well on all surfaces, because thats what it's designed for. The UDR is epic on gravel/sand because thats what its designed for. Exocaged has put a ton of metal into his UDR, that is already close to a kg heavier than the mojave when it's stock, so those mods are no advantage when it comes to racing. Im a big fan of both these cars, but dont complain about the UDR breaking when you bash it around and do jumps. You wouldnt take the X0-1 through a crawler course either.
Great video man. I love my udr. But I have an open mind. The Mojave seems awesome. Also they are two completely different machines that look kind of similar.
There is a lot of toe in at the rest on the Mojave which gives it strange and super sharp handling. I really appreciate the 0 toe in with solid axles RC trucks.
Two different platforms. UDR is pretty much a scale suspension and the Mojave is a buggy type chassis. Love both but it takes more skill to drive the UDR well.
@@SomeonewithaCar Wise choice. I just purchased a used UDR. It really is a durable truck if you use it as it was intended to be used. The trailing arms and front lower control arms are the two most commonly broken parts (which is the case for A LOT of trucks) but that is easily remedied with aluminum replacements or metal chassis guard pieces.
Much prefer the UDR. It's scale nature and suspension is very unique, and not at all in competition with the Mojave. The Mojave is another standard RC with truck body. Different purposes.
The UDR is a trophy truck through and through. Designed and built to function like a real trophy truck. The Mojave is basically a Kraton with a different body. If I want a basher, I'll take out a monster truck because of the better ground clearance. If I'm looking to just rip up a gravel road or a desert style course, then I'll use the UDR. The Mojave isn't for me. I've got a Losi Tenacity DB Pro which is very similar in chassis styling and ground clearance as the Mojave and I barely use it. I've had it for 6 months est. now and ran it 4 times. On top of that, I also got a Losi SBR and SRR which is a much more durable truck and still handles better than the arrma, maybe not so much the SRR. Just my take on it.
I beat my friend's kraton with my UDR on an offroad rc course two days ago. Both 6s, both stock. I had better acceleration / grip but his batteries lasted longer, im guessing because of the weight difference.
@@danishjeans The UDR is fast for sure, but definitely isn't the fastest out there. I do like the handling of the UDR though. I don't roll it nearly as much as many do, although when I do it rolls and rolls and rolls. Lol. I love how it can powerslide so superbly. The only surfaces the UDR tends to have an issue with is dry grass and pavement. Stay away from those surfaces and it's a monster. The UDR is one of the top 3 I run. I run a TRX4 Bronco, Losi LST 3XLE, and my UDR the most. Three best RCs I currently own in my opinion. That's excluding my boat and my plane. My Boat is my favorite RC I would have to say.
@@PeterParker-em2fl Buy what? None are for sale, I would have to ask more than what you could buy new for to make at least an acceptable to me balance on the RC.
the UDR just looks so much better. Mohave just looks like a slightly scaled up senton. UDR with the trailing arms....... Love the scale look of the UDR.
A udr just a scaled Baja truck. I wanna see arrma build a scaled truck but they probably won’t since having a solid axle is weaker than a all independent suspension.
What’s with this sassy Lost child? Who makes a 10 scale baja truck? Serious question I really want one. Only reason I don’t have the UDR is because it’s too big.
Honestly, the udr only needs a few fairly inexpensive upgrades to be durable. The rpm trailing arms, steel center driveshaft, and metal wheel hexes. I wouldn't trust that aluminum chassis on the mojave. It looks like it would bend in half if you jumped it too high.
Really? We should all be thanking them at this point.....?? Lets all just ignore this comparison and not talk about how these trucks should not be close... Even one way better that is STOCK?? .... Lets all just thank Tamiya RC.... This really boils down to how great the Grasshopper was.... No RC would exist without Tamiya. Talk about a company that has done nothing for decades? Yeah let's thank them like we thank Traxxas 😂😂 No doubt Traxxas and Arrma make great rigs, I absolutely love the Xmaxx, but just because YOUR Traxxas got whooped here by a stock Arrma is no reason to get all serious on us "we need to thank Traxxas" It's an "L".... Take it and move along.
@@3SonsRC Well, TBH, if it wasn't for Traxxas, I wouldn't own one RC let alone 10 from various makes. Traxxas is very high on appearing in videos and such. Kevin Talbot with his X-Maxx inspired me to get a Revo 3.3 nitro and it all went from there. I've now got Revo 3.3, Summit, UDR, TRX4 Bronco, Losi Super Baja Rey, Losi Super Rock Rey, Tenacity DB Pro, Losi LST 3XLE, ProBoat Zelos, Eflite F-18 Hornet, not to mention the many others I've purchased for my brother, nieces, and sister in law. 23 I think in total.
@@SebastianLong that great bud... Think you missed my point. Everyone has there teams they are more loyal too, but when one beats the other do you ever say, "Man we should all just thank the Yankees for being great back in the day" A win is a win, we don't have to get all reflective. Plenty of time a Traxxas or Losi looks better in a head to head... Just enjoy what ya got and rock on.
Both trucks are very cool but nothing comes close to the scale realism of the UDR which is why it's my top choice and the reason I just picked one up. Traxxas nailed the scale realism with it which is what I would expect considering their owner Mike Jenkins (and his brother) race the 1:1 SCTs. The Mojave is a little faster and more agile in the turns but the body is less realistic-looking and the chassis/suspension do not resemble a 1:1 SCT at all. In addition, I agree I've read a lot of people breaking parts on the UDR probably b/c they're beating the sh#$ out of it when it's not designed to be a ballistic basher...there are better options for that. It's designed to be a scale version of a real SCT in performance and driving experience which you seem to understand. If those other UDR owners would settle down with the insane speed runs and 30 foot jumps they might not break it as often.
@@wesleysutton5758 I have a 6S Arrma Outcast and love it so not taking anything away from Arrma/Mojave but the difference in scale realism between a UDR and a Mojave is not close and not up for debate.
I'm not brand loyal by any means, but these 2 trucks only have size in common. Of course the Mojave is gonna handle better because its a typical independent suspension RC chassis, whereas the UDR is a true Trophy Truck. I've been interested in the Mojave and already have a UDR, and I beat the crap out of mine launching it off of a BMX ramp all the time. I've only broken the front sway bar link and a rear driveshaft. I love the scale looks and driving capabilities of the UDR.
I prefer the scale look and driving operation of the UDR personally. The Mojave just seems like a scaled up slash and is meant for people who actually want to jump these trucks. There's a reason the UDR is considered "pro-scale" because it's supposed to appear as a life size truck. I've had my UDR for almost a year now and I've yet to break any parts on it. I prefer driving it on "scale" dirt/sand opposed to jumping it 10ft in the air and destroying the truck though. Not to mention, it's a great coffee table ornament in the living room haha.
Run both on a track. See which one handles better and holds up longer. Run full battery and see how many laps you get in. Bashing these cars is not what I think they are best at. High speed track is where they shine. Also slow motion videos are great with these things as they look real at time.
A lot of parts for the ARRMA 6s line are swappable. You can make anything you want with a bit of research. I'm currently building a custom Arrma Mojave with a carbon fiber XL chassis, CRCU,Voltage,M2C,HR,Integy,GPM,WinterEvening Tbone etc
Good comparison. Still cool to see even tho they r worlds apart in design. It's funny how the Arrma does good In this comparison and people still have to bash on Traxxas as a whole,not the UDR that was tested. Sounds like ppl trying to justify why they like arrma. I buy any brand that makes a good rc( IMO ). 😉
I have the same opinion. But fanboys make rc a war. Traxxas is tougher then Arrma, and vice versa. I've had lots of rc's since the good old times where nitro was king. And every car breaks. I've broken savages ss indestructible diffs, I've torn apart Revo 3.3 suspension, I've bent and broke savage and tmax chassis. The mta4 chassis deck was considered extremely durable, and guess what? I'm back in the hobby for a few years now, and I've been ridding Arrma. I ride hard, and I've broke a shock end, rounded a wheel hex ( my fault ) and broke a few planetary gears and one ring gear. But lots of standing backflips on high grip surfaces will kill any transmission. The biggest problem these days are marketing ( Arrma tough, send it ), and UA-cam. Marketing gives people a sensation of indestructible, and UA-cam shows the true capability of this rigs. But most people can't handle this rigs. A bad landing will break any rc car on the market. I know the xmaxx is one of the best kits out there. But I ride with a friend of mine, I ride harder and use more packs than him, and my notorious has less brake downs than his xmaxx. But he has no control on that car. He sends it, and doesn't know how to air control that thing. Some guys that usually go and see us, that want to start, are already leaning towards Arrma. But I usually say, that they will brake a lot of parts, because their experience is none. I'm no fanboy. I like rc's. I'm considering adding the Maxx to the inventory. In my opinion, the xmaxx is just to big.
Yep the Mojo is King! Picked up a Senton 6S and it's giving the Mojave a run for the money 🤑 BTW I have never had a dog bone pop out on mine and have pulverized it with insane bashing, speed and big air...on my 4th set of wheels now 💪
The thing is they both are very different The udr isnt made for bashing like the mojave is Also the suspension setup is completly different Solid rear on the udr and indipendant all around on the arrma So imo if you want somthing cool you can bash around get the arrma If you want a nice scale truck with fancy suspension get the udr
I ordered one on Friday. Towerhobbies only had the green one in stock. So I got the green one. I plan on putting outcast a-arms along with outcast cvds and badlands 3.8 regular ones!. Dam thing will probably backflip.
If you want an RTR to bash around, go arrma. I have a typhon 6s and a granite 3s and they both are great. BUT I love the scale and am considering the udr strictly for that. It all depends on what you want, how you drive and where you drive.
What about power to weight ratio? Noticed you didn’t weigh them, and you stuffed the UDR full of metallic parts. The Arrma is nothing but a glorified slash, pan with cheap body slapped on, hence weighs less.
Awesome unbiased comparison dude. They are both great trucks! Thanks for helping those wondering which one to putchase. There are awesome trucks on both sides of this fence but it's clear who won this round. Appreciate your work bud
Much prefer the UDR over the Mojave. I don't want a cookie cutter 4 wheel independent setup with a truck body that can do 80 mph- I want a near perfect representation of a real trophy truck. I could care less about how high I'm able to send my RC up into the air, or how fast I can wrap it around a tree and have it still run. I want a truck I can work on at home with a beer, that I can remove the body off of and still see a tubular frame chassis with rotors, calipers, fans, radiators and suspension linkage. Then on the nicer days- take it out for a good beating. For me, that's where the fun is. Being able to work on all the little parts that make up the whole picture. Not just the end game of bashing it around like a toy. To each their own- but there isn't one truck here that is objectively better than the other when you consider every aspect of what each has to offer.
I do like the style of the UDR better, but I agree that the UDR seems superior overall. That being said, with those jumps, you really can't fault either one for breaking. Great video!
You do know the UDR was meant to be built to scale right? Not as a single uni-body RC truck w/ independent four wheel suspension? There's a huge difference just in that alone. No- the UDR won't do 60 MPH or turn on a time... but that isn't the point of it, because neither does the real truck when you scale everything up.
All of those upgrades add weight to an already slow geared truck and then complain about it having a poor top speed is held against it. The weight also isn’t advantageous for handling either. Not trying to take away from the Mojave but the UDR has very clear reasons why it appeared sub par in the testing.
I got my green mojave last week... Only one available and I paid down on it before it was gone... Wow wow I wasn't expecting it to be this fast and strong... It's big but not heavy... It whooped the heck out of my 14t pinion kraton heads up 🔥 I love the mojave and its not even upgraded yet.... Only thing I don't like is how it fills up with grass and debris which I'ma order a xxxl shroud cover soon 🔜 enjoy and awesome video!!!
Much Respect 👍🙏 I asked for it and received a comparison video basically next day lol. I'm really enjoying my Mojave. It just drives great. Jumps great also
Yes! I have been waiting for this. The same driveshaft popped out on mine. Same happened to vas from aussie rc playground. Also the same back right wheel came off on mine and other people has the same thing happen. Just some little quirks that the mojave has
DSC1320 I only happens once in a mojave’s lifetime. Usually it is on small jumps landing uphill on one wheel. I have had harder impacts on the same wheel that hasn’t popped it out. The mojave is just special
The udr always wins when it comes to being a scale representation of a desert truck. It must be driven to scale. In that regard the mojave falls short. It's definitely a nice looking truck but in the end it is just a large traxxas slash. That's another compliment by the way. They are both great trucks but in end their designs and purposes are so uniquely different that any comparison is pointless.
So far I haven't had any issues with chassis breakage although it is due for a new chassis, this is a demo model from the local hobby shop and its been used abused and beat up pretty badly.
In this and other videos, I've noticed that the Mojave wheelies under med-high acceleration, while the UDR keeps the front wheels planted. This is important if you want to turn while accelerating. Even at slow speeds, the Mojave wants to wheelie with minimal throttle input. I see this as a major design flaw. Have you ever tried to reduce this tendency? Maybe increasing the viscosity of the fluid in the center diff... and/or adding anti-squat. I don't know what tuning options are available, but you could try putting some shims between the rear swingarm block and the chassis if there are no other options.
Great video Joe! Was good to see the comparisons. Mojave is one speed demon for sure! I know you don’t bash or mistreat your rcs very often but the Mojave can take it. I’d say bling it out with all the M2c racing upgrades chassis etc and really send it and have a BLAST!
UDR has locked rear diff and Arrma has open diff with fluid so big difference in influencing understeer and tighter turning radius. Look the diff on the Arrma and I bet it pushes the same.
jason england someone with a brain. Yay. Yes fully independent suspension turns better than a locked rear axle. Guess most people are just ignoring that.
Man I have got to get me a mojave. I have had my eye on them since I've seen one and they seem like my ideal handling basher and drive exactly how I like. Not to mention being able to race it or sand drag it etc. Let me know if you ever want to sell that thing joe.
The one thing I don’t like about the UDR is the info card that comes with it saying “not to jump it and drive it hard cause it will break and to drive it like a real car” (paraphrasing)
All the Vitavon parts may be weighing it down too..UDR looks more stable on the racing across the field. the arma looks like it was driving with the front tires off the ground on the speed runs,..
The Vitavon parts certainly does weigh it down noticeably. Mine is at least several pounds heavier compared to stock, and I don't even have as many parts as Exo does.
I had a UDR for 18 months, it was a good rig, but the roll overs made it frustrating for me. I'm a basher and I like to jump my trucks, big jumps. That's not something the UDR was made for, learned that quick. The Mojave is not really a big jump rig either however, it is tough as nails and hella fast "stock" and handles every jump I put it through. I have the red one. Might try the vitavon rims to put paddle tires on mine when I go the beach or sand lots, well once this corvid19 is done 🤦🏽♂️ great video EXO👍🏿
P8ntballa(paintballer) I jumped mine probably 20 feet and landed it upside down... blew out that differential housing, do you know what size tires to put onto this thing? I’d like to get a set of paddle tires and maybe try some others but don’t know what to get... also, do you have a motor fan?
Here is a great example of why I refuse to give Traxxas my money. What I mean by that is, I will not purchase a new Traxxas vehicle and I try to avoid purchasing Traxxas parts. They make nice vehicles but, I dispise their business model. The fact that Traxxas is a corporate bully is alone enough to turn me off on them however, that is not the only reason. I also dislike how nearly every vehicle they sell comes with major weaknesses. They all, except maybe the X-Maxx, need multiple upgrades, out of the box, to get them to perform and be as durable as they are intended and should be when new. I feel and believe Traxxas does this intentionally as a means of making more profit. They also seem to do this to a much greater extent than most of their competitors. It is extremely irritating to pay for cheap parts on a new vehicle that just need to be replaced when they could and should have been include better parts at the time of purchase. Yes, better parts cost more to manufacture but, who wouldn't mind paying a little more up front to save a lot on upgrades later? Like I said, every manufacturer does this to some extent but, Traxxas is the master.
Just because the bodies look the same doesn't mean they are the same kind of truck ...apples and oranges comparison UDR is a scaled model desert truck, made for scaled desert truck running... not running the equivalent of jumping a 5 story building. That's the point of the UDR.
No You can use the same motor mount the 4985 motor Will fit perfectly The max6 is perfect I just had a Max5 so I used it I would’ve gone with a max6. I had to cut up the body so I could fit the max5 you will get the same performance with a max6 or a max5 out of the motor
as an X Traxxas fan boy, i actually prefer the Mojave 6s over the UDR...I couldn't care less the UDR is more scaled looking, all i care about is the handling & bashing. because at the end of the day most people are bashing these stadium trucks. and in Australia the Mojave 6s is $500 AUD cheaper then the UDR ($320 USD) with that money saved i can upgrade the crap out of the Mojave and make it even more better.
I think alot of people are missing the point of the UDR...
yes
Yep
What is the point?
@@phrankdatank realism basically. The way it handles and moves...the way it is built. The attention to detail.
So would you be willing to sacrifice speed and handling for a specific look, when you can't even tell, when you're playing with it🤪, I'm not going to get an underperforming RC car just for the name brand
The UDR isn’t for bashing. It’s a scale truck, to run in trophy truck-style conditions. The Mojave is very cool, even in stock form, but it’s a very different truck. It’s like comparing cheddar to parmesan...
The UDR seem a lot more planted and composed on those high speed straights. Beautiful.
The Mojave clearly handles better and is way more stable than the UDR plus the Mojave is faster. Both are rad though.
I only have one arrma and it is the Mojave. What a great rc .......so far
Had UDR for 2 years now, was one of the first to get it... I built another one fully upgraded as a shelf queen💖 This might seem hard to believe that 2 year of mild to moderate bashing and lotta jumping and roll overs with a stock UDR... NOTHING broken. nothing. I did replace the front skid plate, a bit banged up and scratched, still going strong! Just noticed my tires need changing especially the front ones. that's to be expected no matter what RC. Also I did replace the servo a few times😁 Other than that a real tough cookie IMHO💖 Just like the ARRMA💖 Get both if you have the coin, I promise one won't be disappointed wich ever brand one goes with.
I'm doing exactly the same. Bashed on a losi baja rey raptor and then bought a second one with all the carbon fiber and aluminum parts I could find from Exotek,HR,GPM,TeamLosi,SSD,Proline,RCscrews,WinterEvening etc. Doing the same with a second Mojave v2💙
-you have any plans for a second parts shelfqueen?
You have to consider that most of the mods he made added a lot of weight to the truck
Hahah if I not wrong all I see ar vitavon aluminum parts. Don't affect in all too the weight. Just simple arrma is more power on 6s . Don't come with that. There are always some pretexts when saying that the udr has more weight. please
@@Youworstnightmare77 we now know which one of these you bought. You're an arrma fanboy. I love how people bash whichever rc they don't own. Congrats on spending an $400 more than the UDR costs and then bragging about it being better. Oh yeah, the Xmaxx fanboys will laugh at your mojave.
@@Youworstnightmare77 You're right that the Mohave is faster out of the box, but you're wrong to say that the Vitavon parts don't add much weight. When I compare my UDR which has tons of Vitavon parts (not even as much as Exo does) with my brothers bone stock UDR, mine is _considerably_ heavier - at least several pounds heavier. And because of that it does slow it down noticeably.
Come on all the time if to mod its to heavy is not its to fragile. You need to know that if with the mods get more weight you need to mod the gears diff etc..I'm my right... it's like a real trophy truck more power means more weight too so I don't know what you talking about .
@@B3GINNER bro I have 2 udr in the past and honestly I just sold my 3rd udr I buy it cause I like the looks but honestly that truck its to fragile if you bashing hard I know you ar traxxas little boy 👦 but the true arrma have more power toughest and fastest that traxxas I have the xmaxx.8s too in the pass and that thing I just a tank so fkin heavy to send it in the air and broken easily too. So u can came a tell me about the udr or the xmaxx those ar so popular for "bashing" but if you want a bash hard. A real deal get the mojave kraton. the talion notorious or outcast
the UDR soaks up the bumps so much better.
I would have the Mojave & take a vacation with the money spent on upgrades on the UDR.
The UDR has such a unique sound to it sounds awesome
100% Happy I Chose the UDR
I’ve not seen one comparison that favours the UDR over the Mojave. Thank Christ I had the chance to drive a Mojave before I went out and bought the UDR. As much as I like the look of the UDR, I like driving a great RC car a lot more. So, I’m glad a went with the Mojave. And just a side bar to the toughness of the Mojave, I smashed the right side of mine into a wall at 100kmh, and all I broke was the front and rear right side lower arms and the screw of one of the shocks. Cost about $20 to repair and about 15 minutes of my time...well worth the fun I had crashing it!! 😉
Glad, I will definitely be getting a mojave
It's simple really. If you want to bash and do jumps; get the mojave or any other truck really. If you want scale realism and offroad racing, get the udr. The mojave does well on all surfaces, because thats what it's designed for. The UDR is epic on gravel/sand because thats what its designed for. Exocaged has put a ton of metal into his UDR, that is already close to a kg heavier than the mojave when it's stock, so those mods are no advantage when it comes to racing. Im a big fan of both these cars, but dont complain about the UDR breaking when you bash it around and do jumps. You wouldnt take the X0-1 through a crawler course either.
True on all that.
@@ExocagedRC and thanks for the videos mate, i enjoy your channel.
Great video man. I love my udr. But I have an open mind. The Mojave seems awesome. Also they are two completely different machines that look kind of similar.
Exactly Mikey... The size of brushless system, the body shape and wheels is all these 2 trucks have in common.
Cheers mate 👍
Agreed the Mojave is more like a slash 4x4 platform where the UDR is a more or less scale Baja truck
UDR is a trophy truck and the Mojave is a short course truck two completely different beasts.
There is a lot of toe in at the rest on the Mojave which gives it strange and super sharp handling. I really appreciate the 0 toe in with solid axles RC trucks.
my udr fucking breaks every time I drive it and I don't bash it. Super baja rey and mojave 100% better than that cheap piece of shit
Mojave hands down, but I'll take both 😁
Two different platforms. UDR is pretty much a scale suspension and the Mojave is a buggy type chassis. Love both but it takes more skill to drive the UDR well.
Uh,,, anyone else thinking the amount of metal on the UDR is limiting its overall speed? UDR all the way, looks so much better imo.
yeah its not a lightweight anymore thats for sure
I like the udr better tbh and I’m looking to get one I might upgrade to that I have a 1/16 slash
You so right the realism. it's awesome from the udr it looks like a super detailed miniature trophy truck.👍🏼
@@SomeonewithaCar Wise choice. I just purchased a used UDR. It really is a durable truck if you use it as it was intended to be used. The trailing arms and front lower control arms are the two most commonly broken parts (which is the case for A LOT of trucks) but that is easily remedied with aluminum replacements or metal chassis guard pieces.
@@Sabrason good to know!
Much prefer the UDR. It's scale nature and suspension is very unique, and not at all in competition with the Mojave. The Mojave is another standard RC with truck body. Different purposes.
The UDR is a trophy truck through and through. Designed and built to function like a real trophy truck. The Mojave is basically a Kraton with a different body. If I want a basher, I'll take out a monster truck because of the better ground clearance. If I'm looking to just rip up a gravel road or a desert style course, then I'll use the UDR. The Mojave isn't for me. I've got a Losi Tenacity DB Pro which is very similar in chassis styling and ground clearance as the Mojave and I barely use it. I've had it for 6 months est. now and ran it 4 times. On top of that, I also got a Losi SBR and SRR which is a much more durable truck and still handles better than the arrma, maybe not so much the SRR. Just my take on it.
I beat my friend's kraton with my UDR on an offroad rc course two days ago. Both 6s, both stock. I had better acceleration / grip but his batteries lasted longer, im guessing because of the weight difference.
@@danishjeans The UDR is fast for sure, but definitely isn't the fastest out there. I do like the handling of the UDR though. I don't roll it nearly as much as many do, although when I do it rolls and rolls and rolls. Lol. I love how it can powerslide so superbly. The only surfaces the UDR tends to have an issue with is dry grass and pavement. Stay away from those surfaces and it's a monster. The UDR is one of the top 3 I run. I run a TRX4 Bronco, Losi LST 3XLE, and my UDR the most. Three best RCs I currently own in my opinion. That's excluding my boat and my plane. My Boat is my favorite RC I would have to say.
I'll buy it from you
@@PeterParker-em2fl Buy what? None are for sale, I would have to ask more than what you could buy new for to make at least an acceptable to me balance on the RC.
the UDR just looks so much better. Mohave just looks like a slightly scaled up senton. UDR with the trailing arms....... Love the scale look of the UDR.
A udr just a scaled Baja truck. I wanna see arrma build a scaled truck but they probably won’t since having a solid axle is weaker than a all independent suspension.
What’s with this sassy Lost child? Who makes a 10 scale baja truck? Serious question I really want one. Only reason I don’t have the UDR is because it’s too big.
@@GoProseph losi makes a 1 10 baja rey
GoProseph Losi. Losi have a Baja Rey.
Yeah but for the price and 2 year warranty you cant beat that!!
Adjust a set screws that's installed on the lower arm so the Drive Shaft won't pop out
And remove those plastic shims -tighten the pillow balls to draw in close. (Looks like he already did)
Mojave might be better for bashing but the UDR looks cooler every time :)
Honestly, the udr only needs a few fairly inexpensive upgrades to be durable. The rpm trailing arms, steel center driveshaft, and metal wheel hexes. I wouldn't trust that aluminum chassis on the mojave. It looks like it would bend in half if you jumped it too high.
Great video, thank you for taking the time to do this comparison. Been eyeing the Traxxas UDR as my next car in the future.
Everyone trashing Traxxas needs to remember that if it weren't for them these trucks along with many others wouldn't have happened.
Really?
We should all be thanking them at this point.....??
Lets all just ignore this comparison and not talk about how these trucks should not be close... Even one way better that is STOCK?? .... Lets all just thank Tamiya RC.... This really boils down to how great the Grasshopper was.... No RC would exist without Tamiya. Talk about a company that has done nothing for decades? Yeah let's thank them like we thank Traxxas 😂😂
No doubt Traxxas and Arrma make great rigs, I absolutely love the Xmaxx, but just because YOUR Traxxas got whooped here by a stock Arrma is no reason to get all serious on us "we need to thank Traxxas"
It's an "L".... Take it and move along.
@@3SonsRC really
@@3SonsRC Well, TBH, if it wasn't for Traxxas, I wouldn't own one RC let alone 10 from various makes. Traxxas is very high on appearing in videos and such. Kevin Talbot with his X-Maxx inspired me to get a Revo 3.3 nitro and it all went from there. I've now got Revo 3.3, Summit, UDR, TRX4 Bronco, Losi Super Baja Rey, Losi Super Rock Rey, Tenacity DB Pro, Losi LST 3XLE, ProBoat Zelos, Eflite F-18 Hornet, not to mention the many others I've purchased for my brother, nieces, and sister in law. 23 I think in total.
@@SebastianLong that great bud... Think you missed my point. Everyone has there teams they are more loyal too, but when one beats the other do you ever say, "Man we should all just thank the Yankees for being great back in the day"
A win is a win, we don't have to get all reflective. Plenty of time a Traxxas or Losi looks better in a head to head... Just enjoy what ya got and rock on.
Both trucks are very cool but nothing comes close to the scale realism of the UDR which is why it's my top choice and the reason I just picked one up. Traxxas nailed the scale realism with it which is what I would expect considering their owner Mike Jenkins (and his brother) race the 1:1 SCTs. The Mojave is a little faster and more agile in the turns but the body is less realistic-looking and the chassis/suspension do not resemble a 1:1 SCT at all. In addition, I agree I've read a lot of people breaking parts on the UDR probably b/c they're beating the sh#$ out of it when it's not designed to be a ballistic basher...there are better options for that. It's designed to be a scale version of a real SCT in performance and driving experience which you seem to understand. If those other UDR owners would settle down with the insane speed runs and 30 foot jumps they might not break it as often.
I was all in on traxxes until i got an arrma!way better truck if you ask me
@@wesleysutton5758 I have a 6S Arrma Outcast and love it so not taking anything away from Arrma/Mojave but the difference in scale realism between a UDR and a Mojave is not close and not up for debate.
I'm not brand loyal by any means, but these 2 trucks only have size in common. Of course the Mojave is gonna handle better because its a typical independent suspension RC chassis, whereas the UDR is a true Trophy Truck. I've been interested in the Mojave and already have a UDR, and I beat the crap out of mine launching it off of a BMX ramp all the time. I've only broken the front sway bar link and a rear driveshaft. I love the scale looks and driving capabilities of the UDR.
I prefer the scale look and driving operation of the UDR personally. The Mojave just seems like a scaled up slash and is meant for people who actually want to jump these trucks. There's a reason the UDR is considered "pro-scale" because it's supposed to appear as a life size truck. I've had my UDR for almost a year now and I've yet to break any parts on it. I prefer driving it on "scale" dirt/sand opposed to jumping it 10ft in the air and destroying the truck though. Not to mention, it's a great coffee table ornament in the living room haha.
Yeah I agree. It’s a beautiful truck for sure.
Well I think I'll have a look at getting the arrma I prefer the stock body shell on it too and of course in green 👍👍👍
Run both on a track. See which one handles better and holds up longer. Run full battery and see how many laps you get in.
Bashing these cars is not what I think they are best at. High speed track is where they shine. Also slow motion videos are great with these things as they look real at time.
I love seeing slomo on these trucks just as much as I like the slomo on the real trucks. Totally epic
Love the udr for the scale look. I wanna see arrma make a rally car out of the Mojave chassis with a cage
A lot of parts for the ARRMA 6s line are swappable. You can make anything you want with a bit of research. I'm currently building a custom Arrma Mojave with a carbon fiber XL chassis, CRCU,Voltage,M2C,HR,Integy,GPM,WinterEvening Tbone etc
Put a small piece of fuel tubing in each drive cup to keep more tension on the dog bones
That doesn't work with cvds
Good comparison. Still cool to see even tho they r worlds apart in design. It's funny how the Arrma does good In this comparison and people still have to bash on Traxxas as a whole,not the UDR that was tested. Sounds like ppl trying to justify why they like arrma. I buy any brand that makes a good rc( IMO ). 😉
People have favorites, some are hardcore to one brand vs the other. I like anything that performs well.
I have the same opinion. But fanboys make rc a war. Traxxas is tougher then Arrma, and vice versa. I've had lots of rc's since the good old times where nitro was king. And every car breaks. I've broken savages ss indestructible diffs, I've torn apart Revo 3.3 suspension, I've bent and broke savage and tmax chassis. The mta4 chassis deck was considered extremely durable, and guess what?
I'm back in the hobby for a few years now, and I've been ridding Arrma. I ride hard, and I've broke a shock end, rounded a wheel hex ( my fault ) and broke a few planetary gears and one ring gear. But lots of standing backflips on high grip surfaces will kill any transmission.
The biggest problem these days are marketing ( Arrma tough, send it ), and UA-cam. Marketing gives people a sensation of indestructible, and UA-cam shows the true capability of this rigs. But most people can't handle this rigs. A bad landing will break any rc car on the market. I know the xmaxx is one of the best kits out there. But I ride with a friend of mine, I ride harder and use more packs than him, and my notorious has less brake downs than his xmaxx. But he has no control on that car. He sends it, and doesn't know how to air control that thing. Some guys that usually go and see us, that want to start, are already leaning towards Arrma. But I usually say, that they will brake a lot of parts, because their experience is none.
I'm no fanboy. I like rc's. I'm considering adding the Maxx to the inventory. In my opinion, the xmaxx is just to big.
Yep the Mojo is King! Picked up a Senton 6S and it's giving the Mojave a run for the money 🤑 BTW I have never had a dog bone pop out on mine and have pulverized it with insane bashing, speed and big air...on my 4th set of wheels now 💪
My talion did something same one. My daughter was driving it on 50%. Does have MT tires on it
Perhaps you need to build a UDR course at the ExoPlex.
The only thing Traxxas wins is lawsuits
Martin Korf
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The thing is they both are very different
The udr isnt made for bashing like the mojave is
Also the suspension setup is completly different
Solid rear on the udr and indipendant all around on the arrma
So imo if you want somthing cool you can bash around get the arrma
If you want a nice scale truck with fancy suspension get the udr
The UDR is meant for scale. I would take the UDR any day of the week.
Nice comparison! I just picked up a Mojave 😃
It's a fun truck
@@MoBay876rc Yeah man! Just drove it for the first time yesterday. Love it 🤩 It's fast, handles so well and different from any other RC 👍
@@GreatLakesRC great minds think a like it's going to be your favorite RC 😎
I ordered one on Friday. Towerhobbies only had the green one in stock. So I got the green one. I plan on putting outcast a-arms along with outcast cvds and badlands 3.8 regular ones!. Dam thing will probably backflip.
@@joshdunbar9721 I got mine from Tower as well! I think I ordered mine last Tuesday, might have gotten the last red one 🤣
Oh yes sir arrma all day arrma for life
If you want an RTR to bash around, go arrma. I have a typhon 6s and a granite 3s and they both are great. BUT I love the scale and am considering the udr strictly for that. It all depends on what you want, how you drive and where you drive.
The Mojave is more like a big slash..... The udr has a locked rear diff..btw
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Good showing I jus ordered a Mojave today mahalo🤙
Mahalo brother
What about power to weight ratio? Noticed you didn’t weigh them, and you stuffed the UDR full of metallic parts. The Arrma is nothing but a glorified slash, pan with cheap body slapped on, hence weighs less.
Exactly, and the udr is way more durable than the arma Mohave
TRAXXAS FAN BOIS I DISAGREEEEEE
Though he put a much more powerful esc and motor
Btw they made the senton to compete with the slash
They made it so you can actually drive the vehicle and have fun while looking somewhat realistic.
Awesome unbiased comparison dude. They are both great trucks! Thanks for helping those wondering which one to putchase. There are awesome trucks on both sides of this fence but it's clear who won this round. Appreciate your work bud
Thank you for watching
I've got Mojave running 8s 18 t pinion with bigger wheels it dose 87mph and gets ther quick its a wmd and a lot of fun nothing broke yet
Much prefer the UDR over the Mojave. I don't want a cookie cutter 4 wheel independent setup with a truck body that can do 80 mph- I want a near perfect representation of a real trophy truck. I could care less about how high I'm able to send my RC up into the air, or how fast I can wrap it around a tree and have it still run. I want a truck I can work on at home with a beer, that I can remove the body off of and still see a tubular frame chassis with rotors, calipers, fans, radiators and suspension linkage. Then on the nicer days- take it out for a good beating. For me, that's where the fun is. Being able to work on all the little parts that make up the whole picture. Not just the end game of bashing it around like a toy. To each their own- but there isn't one truck here that is objectively better than the other when you consider every aspect of what each has to offer.
I prefer the better handling truck: mojave
While you wrote a whole damn article.. My mojave just lapped your udr 😂 😂 😂
@@Bro_wdf_you_doing Who cares? I don't even race mine, lol. I wanted mine to look like an actual trophy truck, not a remote control toy
@@baltod4978 This is more fun to you? To spend more on a truck thats slower, handles worse and breaks more? To each his own i guess.
@@baltod4978 how cute ☺
I do like the style of the UDR better, but I agree that the UDR seems superior overall. That being said, with those jumps, you really can't fault either one for breaking. Great video!
Nice opening shot 🤛
Great stuff! Now I know which one to get! Thanks for doing this my man.
UDR all the way
Awesome vid dude ! Love my Mojave, arrma FTW
This just shows it takes a heavily modified a traxxas to compete with and ARRMA TOUGH TRUCK!! Don’t Just Bash.Blast.
Arrma is good. Very good. But, NOTHING drives like a UDR. Period.
You do know the UDR was meant to be built to scale right? Not as a single uni-body RC truck w/ independent four wheel suspension? There's a huge difference just in that alone. No- the UDR won't do 60 MPH or turn on a time... but that isn't the point of it, because neither does the real truck when you scale everything up.
All of those upgrades add weight to an already slow geared truck and then complain about it having a poor top speed is held against it. The weight also isn’t advantageous for handling either. Not trying to take away from the Mojave but the UDR has very clear reasons why it appeared sub par in the testing.
I got my green mojave last week... Only one available and I paid down on it before it was gone... Wow wow I wasn't expecting it to be this fast and strong... It's big but not heavy... It whooped the heck out of my 14t pinion kraton heads up 🔥 I love the mojave and its not even upgraded yet.... Only thing I don't like is how it fills up with grass and debris which I'ma order a xxxl shroud cover soon 🔜 enjoy and awesome video!!!
Great video as always👍👍 Got both as well and the Mojave is my go to for all out general bashing.
Huh, I clocked my udr at 55mph (stock)
Jonah Fastré he’s got a whole bunch of useless shit that weighs it down
And his gear mesh is way way way to tight.
Oh yeah because im sure when you clocked it at 55 you ran it on the same field he did surface changes speed changes
Amazing content mate but can you please tell me where did you get the wheels on the udr?
Those are made by Vitavon, I can get you ebay links but it sounds like you're not in the US?
@@ExocagedRC yea im from germany but its ok at least iknow the name from them cheers 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Much Respect 👍🙏 I asked for it and received a comparison video basically next day lol. I'm really enjoying my Mojave. It just drives great. Jumps great also
Yes! I have been waiting for this. The same driveshaft popped out on mine. Same happened to vas from aussie rc playground. Also the same back right wheel came off on mine and other people has the same thing happen. Just some little quirks that the mojave has
I haven't experienced it yet.. Was it a bad landing? Full compression?
DSC1320 I only happens once in a mojave’s lifetime. Usually it is on small jumps landing uphill on one wheel. I have had harder impacts on the same wheel that hasn’t popped it out. The mojave is just special
The udr always wins when it comes to being a scale representation of a desert truck. It must be driven to scale. In that regard the mojave falls short. It's definitely a nice looking truck but in the end it is just a large traxxas slash. That's another compliment by the way. They are both great trucks but in end their designs and purposes are so uniquely different that any comparison is pointless.
The UDR sounds crazy
Had to adjust droop out of the box on mine. Front tires would not spin if the vehicle was off the ground.
Sold my UDR for a Mojave, and never been happier
Love the new truck can't wait to see some upgrades
How is the udr with all that aluminum? I prefer the plastic because it’s lighter and i worried about the aluminum part breaking the cassis
So far I haven't had any issues with chassis breakage although it is due for a new chassis, this is a demo model from the local hobby shop and its been used abused and beat up pretty badly.
In this and other videos, I've noticed that the Mojave wheelies under med-high acceleration, while the UDR keeps the front wheels planted. This is important if you want to turn while accelerating. Even at slow speeds, the Mojave wants to wheelie with minimal throttle input. I see this as a major design flaw. Have you ever tried to reduce this tendency? Maybe increasing the viscosity of the fluid in the center diff... and/or adding anti-squat. I don't know what tuning options are available, but you could try putting some shims between the rear swingarm block and the chassis if there are no other options.
it all depends on how you pull the trigger, the udr will wheelie too. Usually it just breaks traction
Great video Joe! Was good to see the comparisons. Mojave is one speed demon for sure! I know you don’t bash or mistreat your rcs very often but the Mojave can take it. I’d say bling it out with all the M2c racing upgrades chassis etc and really send it and have a BLAST!
Very nice video with the Mojave and great comparison to the Traxxas :)
That's strange the UDR is good for 50 mph with 6 cell stock out of the box
He changed motor I believe.
This is on grass also
Welp, this video made my mind up. Mojave FTW. Definitely my next purchase.
You going to love the Mojave
Nice footage man
Great vid man
Thanks, I'm buying the Mojave ! Great video !
Yep, grass makes a big difference.
which one would you say would be better for a smaller back yard track?
Mojave
UDR has locked rear diff and Arrma has open diff with fluid so big difference in influencing understeer and tighter turning radius. Look the diff on the Arrma and I bet it pushes the same.
jason england someone with a brain. Yay. Yes fully independent suspension turns better than a locked rear axle. Guess most people are just ignoring that.
Great video man but the udr is definitely heavier so...
Nice Speedtest. :))
What an awesome video!! Nice jumps
I have a brand new Max6 esc and a new 1100kv motor. What are your thoughts on putting it in a Mojave EXB roller?
I only have arrma limitless on it cost abot 450 without engine and with engine 500$$$ and it's speed is 192 mrh
Nice vid. Love your Channel and your almost hitting 5.000.000 views 😁👏🏼 good work 👌
I want 1m views in a month. That would be epic!! I’m at about 375k/mo now so I have a LONG ways to go
Man I have got to get me a mojave. I have had my eye on them since I've seen one and they seem like my ideal handling basher and drive exactly how I like. Not to mention being able to race it or sand drag it etc. Let me know if you ever want to sell that thing joe.
Awesome video. I have a similar perspective and driving style! Super great.
The one thing I don’t like about the UDR is the info card that comes with it saying “not to jump it and drive it hard cause it will break and to drive it like a real car” (paraphrasing)
This is what i like about udr.
Good video E. RC, but j prefer the UDR Traxxas
Speeds gonna be down on the use bc of the added weight of the bead lock tires I would think could be wrong
Try Talion wheels on the Mojave, makes it handle way better. 😎😎
Ever broke the cage near the limit strap?
All the Vitavon parts may be weighing it down too..UDR looks more stable on the racing across the field. the arma looks like it was driving with the front tires off the ground on the speed runs,..
The Vitavon parts certainly does weigh it down noticeably. Mine is at least several pounds heavier compared to stock, and I don't even have as many parts as Exo does.
I had a UDR for 18 months, it was a good rig, but the roll overs made it frustrating for me. I'm a basher and I like to jump my trucks, big jumps. That's not something the UDR was made for, learned that quick. The Mojave is not really a big jump rig either however, it is tough as nails and hella fast "stock" and handles every jump I put it through. I have the red one. Might try the vitavon rims to put paddle tires on mine when I go the beach or sand lots, well once this corvid19 is done 🤦🏽♂️ great video EXO👍🏿
P8ntballa(paintballer) I jumped mine probably 20 feet and landed it upside down... blew out that differential housing, do you know what size tires to put onto this thing? I’d like to get a set of paddle tires and maybe try some others but don’t know what to get... also, do you have a motor fan?
I just bought my son one armma senton but I would be happy with either one of them is be happy to get me a senton
Nice video bro 👍🏾💯 Rcfam4life
You coud alwas do the open diff in the rear to pick up turning
I did that, broke the diff and it turned worse. For me it turns better with the rear locked so it slides around.
Any idea what the 2 of them weigh? That udr looks a good bit heavier when on the dirt piles. Especially with the 2 paddle tires on the back
I haven’t weighed them in but the UDR is heavier
Here is a great example of why I refuse to give Traxxas my money. What I mean by that is, I will not purchase a new Traxxas vehicle and I try to avoid purchasing Traxxas parts. They make nice vehicles but, I dispise their business model. The fact that Traxxas is a corporate bully is alone enough to turn me off on them however, that is not the only reason. I also dislike how nearly every vehicle they sell comes with major weaknesses. They all, except maybe the X-Maxx, need multiple upgrades, out of the box, to get them to perform and be as durable as they are intended and should be when new. I feel and believe Traxxas does this intentionally as a means of making more profit. They also seem to do this to a much greater extent than most of their competitors. It is extremely irritating to pay for cheap parts on a new vehicle that just need to be replaced when they could and should have been include better parts at the time of purchase. Yes, better parts cost more to manufacture but, who wouldn't mind paying a little more up front to save a lot on upgrades later? Like I said, every manufacturer does this to some extent but, Traxxas is the master.
Just because the bodies look the same doesn't mean they are the same kind of truck
...apples and oranges comparison
UDR is a scaled model desert truck, made for scaled desert truck running... not running the equivalent of jumping a 5 story building. That's the point of the UDR.
amazing video...⚡️
I put a max 5 and A big block motor in my Mojave thing is a monster
No You can use the same motor mount the 4985 motor Will fit perfectly The max6 is perfect I just had a Max5 so I used it I would’ve gone with a max6. I had to cut up the body so I could fit the max5 you will get the same performance with a max6 or a max5 out of the motor
as an X Traxxas fan boy, i actually prefer the Mojave 6s over the UDR...I couldn't care less the UDR is more scaled looking, all i care about is the handling & bashing. because at the end of the day most people are bashing these stadium trucks. and in Australia the Mojave 6s is $500 AUD cheaper then the UDR ($320 USD) with that money saved i can upgrade the crap out of the Mojave and make it even more better.
Go the Arrma, yep, i am a fan