My first ever drum clinic at the Dolphin Hotel, Swansea, Wales, in 1985 Dave Mattacks was one of the drummers along side Ian Mosley and Micky Barker. It was for Yamaha drums. I'd only been playing a month or so, and I was gobsmacked! Seeing 3 fantastic drummer up close and personal was very a powerful experience. So great to see Dave still kicking it. Right at the end, he did a great Solo playing only with hands, no sticks! I remember that more than anything else about that night. Thanks for the memory Mr Mattacks.
I love the hi-hat stand in particular. It's so simply engineered and beautiful. (In contrast, and perhaps ironically, I also use the F9 bass pedal, which is excessively engineered but also plays beautifully). The Crosstown stands work great for me. Terrific video. Thank you and cheers.
Have been using Crosstown hardware with my PHX kit since September when it came out. Wonderful hardware and a game changer for gigs . . . THAT being said, one improvement I would make is the Thumbscrew size . . . Yamaha has made these little thumbscrews in their triple flange retro style (they have another name for it) . . . but when you are moving fast it is REALLY easy to pinch and break a blood vessel in your finger . . . I replaced them all with full size DW thumbscrews and it made set up so much better . . .
I swear by my Yamaha hardware, I don’t play their drums anymore but still use the hardware. These new aluminum stands really seem like a leap forward in the light weight hardware market, I’ll have to check them out. Thanks DCP for the video.
I've got the DW ultralight hardware pack and don't have any problems with the cymbal stands or snare stand, but I feel like a lot of folks struggle with the flat based hi hat stand. I think this hi-hat stand is going to be wildly popular.
Yeah,the hihat stand was not ideal if you do a lot of cymbal splashes with the pedal. You can do it but feel just wasn't good for me personally. I used the stand for a few years anyways. No issues with stability or durability but I do jazz small group stuff mostly so no hard hitting. Finally sold it and now use DW3500 and it does everything well but is almost 12lbs!!! Crosstown is on my list too.
Glad to see a well known company getting the ball rolling on this idea. It is a huge need in the market. I'm getting older....and hardware bags weighing a ton just sucks.
what "sucks" more than carrying heavy gear that lasts a lifetime is replacing this cheap aluminum garbage every few years when you don't have the money to do so. This has nothing to do with making quality gear and everything to do with making gear designed to fail so we will have to keep buying more and more over time. Retire or workout but quit supporting this nonsense they are trying to sell you!!
Didn't Premier do some thing similar many years ago with utube stands. "Trilok came around 1976, with tripod bases, U-shaped hand-threatening legs, and nylon wear-resisting inserts." N.b. Yamaha partnered with Premier many years ago, hmmm...
Gibraltar made some Aluminium hardware in the 90s, I bought a load of it and it significantly lightened the hardware chest was I using at the time. However Aluminium being a soft metal and all, it wasn't long until the pipes started to buckle, especially when using multi clamps on them. My dad rounded off the inner part of the multi clamp to aid this, which worked. But the pipes still buckled around the tightening area. Not sure how long they made them for, they don't make them now whether it was because of lack of popularity or function. Always loved Yamaha drums and hardware, so I hope these are more to task as I am in the market for a lightweight hardware solution for my Bop kit.
I do wish they had a polished design and that they sold the hardware without the feet so that I could use these on a rack to offset some of the additional weight.
The lack of a boom stand seems odd. If I were shopping for a new kit I'd find myself buying CS755's or CS665A's rather than this straight straight stand.
They lack a boom stand because aluminum and lightweight is synonymous with garbage!!! They want to eventually take away all the quality lifetime steel stands and replace with stands designed to fail so they will have repeat customers. Just look what the manufacturers did to the microphone stand industry with this cheap aluminum garbage. I think these comments are rigged because I refuse to believe that musicians can be so stupid as to believe this crap!
I'm really wanting to buy this hardware pack. Can you please tell me if the Hi-Hat stand has an adjustment for the tension. If not, please tell me about the fixed tension,.... loose, tight, OK???
It looks brill as a pensioner any weight saving,is a bonus as I have been playing over 40yrs, and carrying back breaking stands, maybe you need to design an ultraweight drum set for the gigging drummer and, to fold into a carry case. hope you take notice will buy some of these stands as a new purchase, went to a jam today the weight of conventional stuff killing. Cheers great presentation.
Can you add info on max usable heights of these 3 stands. I have seen them at Uk Drum show but didnt have a tape measure . The rep on trhe booth said there was info on Yamaha Website but although they do show weights on the promo video there is no info about the height settings. I sit much higher than other drummers so knowing that these can replace my exisiting set up without compromising on positioning is important. If you have some in stock... can you do some quick measurements and post them.
No, and for a reason; it's cheap aluminum garbage that will fail over time forcing you to be a repeat customer. Steel last a lifetime and they don't want that!
Crosstown Hardware is a GAME CHANGER!!! Use it with my PHX kit . . . AND it's BACKWARD Compatible with OTHER Yamaha hardware so you can hybrid your hardware!!
Hello, that's called steel stands that last a lifetime not this cheap aluminum, lightweight, garbage that you'll have to replace every few years which is their only intent here!
Once again, Yamaha thinking outside the box, and using common sense. Flat base stands are useless because they're closer to the ground with less stability. Yamaha gives the best of both worlds, with lightweight practicality, and sturdiness, all under 18 lbs. All other companies have to get back to the drawing board if they want to compete with this product. Yamaha is reliability, durability and simplicity. They just came out with this hardware pack and they're already ALL sold out in every drum/music shop in my city. I'm ordering mine just in time for the holidays. Great job Yamaha and DCPNH
That's why I love Yamaha Drums, innovation, reliability, quality and beauty of finishes and sounding perfectly. All for a good price. Thank's for having presented this hardware line with someone of Yamaha, it's really a good idea.
Cool concept, but Oh, so ugly. It looks like the stands I used to build with my dad's lathe and milling machine when I was a kid and couldn't afford to buy stands, but we had a source for scrape aluminum and it was so much easier to machine than steel.
It's only a "cool concept" if you believe that this garbage will hold up over time. The only reason they are making this garbage is they want to eventually do away with the lifetime steel stands and make us repeat customers. Just look at what they did to the microphone stands, you pay twice as much for the lightweight stands that last half as long. We are using modified cymbal boom steel stands for microphone stands which is they only way to go!!
I've got news for you and Yamaha and all the other companies making cheaper gear to sell at higher prices....we are not wanting lightweight, we are wanting products that last. Lightweight is synonymous with gear that is going to fail which is the only reason why they are making it to increase profits!!! Hence, if quality steel stands last a lifetime, which they do, then how are they going to keep selling us more stands? They've already ruined the microphone stands with this cheap aluminum garbage!! Capitalism at its worst. I can't believe the posts here supporting this garbage!! No thanks, we will keep our steel stands that last a lifetime!! And, shame on you Drum Center of Portsmouth!! What you don't know is that you do work for them because if you don't promote their garbage aluminum stands, then you can't carry the rest of their products. My father is a renowned mechanical engineer, he says not only are aluminum stands junk for the most part but Yamaha went to the extremes to make theirs pure junk; using aluminum channel legs in lieu of aluminum tubing legs which are much, much, stronger. Aluminum channel twists and bends much easier than tubing.
Yes, and it comes at a cost...you'll have to replace every few years which is the only reason they're making it. You'll have to decide, buy the lifetime, steel stands and get some healthy exercise while moving them or come up with a lot of extra coin to buy more of this garbage when it fails.
My first ever drum clinic at the Dolphin Hotel, Swansea, Wales, in 1985 Dave Mattacks was one of the drummers along side Ian Mosley and Micky Barker. It was for Yamaha drums. I'd only been playing a month or so, and I was gobsmacked! Seeing 3 fantastic drummer up close and personal was very a powerful experience. So great to see Dave still kicking it. Right at the end, he did a great Solo playing only with hands, no sticks! I remember that more than anything else about that night.
Thanks for the memory Mr Mattacks.
Love to see..A BOOM STAND...AND A LIGHT WEIGHT DRUM SEAT😊
Yamaha needs to make a lightweight drum throne since that is typically the heaviest piece of hardware.
Huge point.
I thought they did though. isnt it the ds550?
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If yamaha could make a lightweight sturdy hydraulic drum throne, that would be the best!!!!!!!!
Two things: First, sell the HW3 pack with the FP7210 bass drum pedal. Second, please make a boom stand for this pack!
I love the hi-hat stand in particular. It's so simply engineered and beautiful. (In contrast, and perhaps ironically, I also use the F9 bass pedal, which is excessively engineered but also plays beautifully). The Crosstown stands work great for me. Terrific video. Thank you and cheers.
Have been using Crosstown hardware with my PHX kit since September when it came out. Wonderful hardware and a game changer for gigs . . . THAT being said, one improvement I would make is the Thumbscrew size . . . Yamaha has made these little thumbscrews in their triple flange retro style (they have another name for it) . . . but when you are moving fast it is REALLY easy to pinch and break a blood vessel in your finger . . . I replaced them all with full size DW thumbscrews and it made set up so much better . . .
They kinda have the look of the Randall May marching drum stands.
I swear by my Yamaha hardware, I don’t play their drums anymore but still use the hardware. These new aluminum stands really seem like a leap forward in the light weight hardware market, I’ll have to check them out. Thanks DCP for the video.
You're welcome! These are definitely worth checking out. Thanks for watching.
I've got the DW ultralight hardware pack and don't have any problems with the cymbal stands or snare stand, but I feel like a lot of folks struggle with the flat based hi hat stand. I think this hi-hat stand is going to be wildly popular.
Yeah,the hihat stand was not ideal if you do a lot of cymbal splashes with the pedal. You can do it but feel just wasn't good for me personally. I used the stand for a few years anyways. No issues with stability or durability but I do jazz small group stuff mostly so no hard hitting. Finally sold it and now use DW3500 and it does everything well but is almost 12lbs!!! Crosstown is on my list too.
Are those cymbal stands strong enough to hold a tom mount? If so I may get this.
I think they are. Seek to the 6:41 mark on the video.
I'm really tempted, but there needs to be a boom stand in this package.
Glad to see a well known company getting the ball rolling on this idea. It is a huge need in the market. I'm getting older....and hardware bags weighing a ton just sucks.
Same!
I'm with you 100% on that comment. Started off feeling like I'm carrying a transmission. Same hardware feels even heavier now.
what "sucks" more than carrying heavy gear that lasts a lifetime is replacing this cheap aluminum garbage every few years when you don't have the money to do so. This has nothing to do with making quality gear and everything to do with making gear designed to fail so we will have to keep buying more and more over time. Retire or workout but quit supporting this nonsense they are trying to sell you!!
Didn't Premier do some thing similar many years ago with utube stands. "Trilok came around 1976, with tripod bases, U-shaped hand-threatening legs, and nylon wear-resisting inserts."
N.b. Yamaha partnered with Premier many years ago, hmmm...
Gibraltar made some Aluminium hardware in the 90s, I bought a load of it and it significantly lightened the hardware chest was I using at the time. However Aluminium being a soft metal and all, it wasn't long until the pipes started to buckle, especially when using multi clamps on them. My dad rounded off the inner part of the multi clamp to aid this, which worked. But the pipes still buckled around the tightening area. Not sure how long they made them for, they don't make them now whether it was because of lack of popularity or function. Always loved Yamaha drums and hardware, so I hope these are more to task as I am in the market for a lightweight hardware solution for my Bop kit.
BTW.. Love ALL your videos guys, keep em coming!
Boom stands please!
This is the best lightweight hardware on the market!
I do wish they had a polished design and that they sold the hardware without the feet so that I could use these on a rack to offset some of the additional weight.
Where are we on the boom stand? It's been awhile.
Do the legs on the hi hat stand rotate to accommodate a double kick pedal?
no
I was kind of hoping you’d go more in depth on the snare stand and travel bag as well
The lack of a boom stand seems odd. If I were shopping for a new kit I'd find myself buying CS755's or CS665A's rather than this straight straight stand.
They lack a boom stand because aluminum and lightweight is synonymous with garbage!!! They want to eventually take away all the quality lifetime steel stands and replace with stands designed to fail so they will have repeat customers. Just look what the manufacturers did to the microphone stand industry with this cheap aluminum garbage. I think these comments are rigged because I refuse to believe that musicians can be so stupid as to believe this crap!
You guys have a fantastic sense of humour (I mean 'humor' :)
I'm really wanting to buy this hardware pack. Can you please tell me if the Hi-Hat stand has an adjustment for the tension. If not, please tell me about the fixed tension,.... loose, tight, OK???
Can you fit a slave pedal underneath the hi hat stand for double kick users?
That brushed aluminium surface of the pipes lends itself to a boom. When a boom stand comes along, I´ll be the first in line to buy a set.
The most inovate and quality drum hardware, allways from YAMAHA.
is the hi-hat stand convertible to a 2-leg configuration for dbl bass drum pedal?
Do you think its ok to add a clamp on the cymbal stand?
Maybe for something no heavier than a splash cymbal. You wouldn't want to mount anything with too much weight to it.
Thanks for your answer guys, and do you think the clamp is not going to dent the aluminium tube? thanks a lot
The clamps should work fine. The aluminum tubing is very strong.
@@drumcenternh I had the same question, thanks for responding
I'm surprised it took this long to come out with this lightweight hardware. Looks great!
I’ve never had flat based hardware blow over from outside gigs... I am a heavy hittef
Clearly you've never played on the side of a hill during a tropical storm. ⛈
No memory locks on these stands?
This stuff id great and long overdue but I hate the fact that the tension on the Hi Hat can't be adjusted.
Great review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
It looks brill as a pensioner any weight saving,is a bonus as I have been playing over 40yrs, and carrying back breaking stands, maybe you need to design an ultraweight drum set for the gigging drummer and, to fold into a carry case.
hope you take notice will buy some of these stands as a new purchase, went to a jam today the weight of conventional stuff killing.
Cheers great presentation.
Does the Yamaha 740 tiered stacker match up with these stands?
It doesnt fold with a clamp?? (Tom clamp)
Can you add info on max usable heights of these 3 stands. I have seen them at Uk Drum show but didnt have a tape measure . The rep on trhe booth said there was info on Yamaha Website but although they do show weights on the promo video there is no info about the height settings. I sit much higher than other drummers so knowing that these can replace my exisiting set up without compromising on positioning is important. If you have some in stock... can you do some quick measurements and post them.
Cymbal stands are 55" (140 cm) Hi Hat Stand is 40" (102 cm). Can't find an open snare stand at the moment, but I'm guessing standard size.
It's apparent that Mattacks does not like to be interviewed...
Chad Walton- He's British. He's played with many greats, which means, automatic a55hole..
can we clamp it?
Do they make a boom stand?
No, and for a reason; it's cheap aluminum garbage that will fail over time forcing you to be a repeat customer. Steel last a lifetime and they don't want that!
Lol that music sounds like the overworld theme from spy fox 2
This is not a review...it's someone from Yamaha telling us how great their product is.
smash the dislike button
Marketing. No adjustment on hi hat. Takes the guess work out. Blind fold test please. Enjoyed…
YAY!💗 💥 🎉 👏 😁
Not having "swingable hi hat legs" to accommodate double bass drum pedals is a flunk, otherwise I like them.
Lighter than dw?
im sold, love it
You have to gig a lot to realize how much better these are to get the job done
If it only had an Omni ball system it would be perfect
Crosstown Hardware is a GAME CHANGER!!! Use it with my PHX kit . . . AND it's BACKWARD Compatible with OTHER Yamaha hardware so you can hybrid your hardware!!
If it were a boom stand they would have to make it heavier because the cymbol extended out on the boom would bring it over. So get to work Yamaha
Hello, that's called steel stands that last a lifetime not this cheap aluminum, lightweight, garbage that you'll have to replace every few years which is their only intent here!
Once again, Yamaha thinking outside the box, and using common sense. Flat base stands are useless because they're closer to the ground with less stability. Yamaha gives the best of both worlds, with lightweight practicality, and sturdiness, all under 18 lbs. All other companies have to get back to the drawing board if they want to compete with this product. Yamaha is reliability, durability and simplicity. They just came out with this hardware pack and they're already ALL sold out in every drum/music shop in my city. I'm ordering mine just in time for the holidays. Great job Yamaha and DCPNH
That's why I love Yamaha Drums, innovation, reliability, quality and beauty of finishes and sounding perfectly. All for a good price. Thank's for having presented this hardware line with someone of Yamaha, it's really a good idea.
Great hardware, only thing that maybe missing is arm at least in one of those two cymbal strands...otherwise excellent product!
Really nice hardware. But very dumb that Yamaha didn't make the HiHat stand tripod legs turn to accommodate slave pedals. 😥
Yep.. a massive swing and a miss
"Grow some legs"?
Yeh, 3 of them.
Everyone knows Yamaha makes the best hardware. Has been for a good number of decades. So....this might be interesting. See how it holds up....
Boom stand for gods sake
Cool concept, but Oh, so ugly. It looks like the stands I used to build with my dad's lathe and milling machine when I was a kid and couldn't afford to buy stands, but we had a source for scrape aluminum and it was so much easier to machine than steel.
It's only a "cool concept" if you believe that this garbage will hold up over time. The only reason they are making this garbage is they want to eventually do away with the lifetime steel stands and make us repeat customers. Just look at what they did to the microphone stands, you pay twice as much for the lightweight stands that last half as long. We are using modified cymbal boom steel stands for microphone stands which is they only way to go!!
I've got news for you and Yamaha and all the other companies making cheaper gear to sell at higher prices....we are not wanting lightweight, we are wanting products that last. Lightweight is synonymous with gear that is going to fail which is the only reason why they are making it to increase profits!!! Hence, if quality steel stands last a lifetime, which they do, then how are they going to keep selling us more stands? They've already ruined the microphone stands with this cheap aluminum garbage!! Capitalism at its worst. I can't believe the posts here supporting this garbage!! No thanks, we will keep our steel stands that last a lifetime!! And, shame on you Drum Center of Portsmouth!! What you don't know is that you do work for them because if you don't promote their garbage aluminum stands, then you can't carry the rest of their products. My father is a renowned mechanical engineer, he says not only are aluminum stands junk for the most part but Yamaha went to the extremes to make theirs pure junk; using aluminum channel legs in lieu of aluminum tubing legs which are much, much, stronger. Aluminum channel twists and bends much easier than tubing.
This hasn’t aged well. 5 years in, 80 gigs/year and my crosstowns are holding up beautifully.
My throne weighs 24lb...this entire set is lighter.
Yes, and it comes at a cost...you'll have to replace every few years which is the only reason they're making it. You'll have to decide, buy the lifetime, steel stands and get some healthy exercise while moving them or come up with a lot of extra coin to buy more of this garbage when it fails.