Why It's Impossible To Compete With The UFC.
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The antitrust lawsuit just got a crazy update. Basically the judge said $335 million isn't enough for a settlement and that the UFC is going to have to pay up much more money. As a result of this the lawsuit is headed towards a trial. So does this suddenly mean we'll see more Francis Ngannou situations of top UFC fighters headed to the PFL? No. Not at all.
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The biggest fuck you to the fighters was the Reebok deal and taking ALL of there sponsors off of their fight clothing.
Completely took away any money for the fighters names.
And they still have tons of sponsors on the octagon itself so now it’s just the UFC making money on sponsors not the fighters
@@GettingNegativeI can only imagine how much guys could have made with their own sponsors. They could’ve honestly got away with paying them badly, but taking sponsors away is just too much.
It’s the only sport I’m aware of that restricts individual sponsorship which I think is all anyone needs to know concerning the opinion the UFC has of it’s fighters.
@@rico14guys like Brendan shaub has talked about it at length, saying through his sponsors he made multiple times what he got paid from the ufc
Dana white attacking the judge’s character without any real reasons except personal speculation is just like him
Trial by media 👍🏻
Indeed. He's a Trump Trump guy, inside and out. Given his treatment of undercard fighters, from pay to abusive terms, gaslighting and games, we need a much more critical MMA media. It's almost all access journalism now. Most all MMA commentators are terrified of him and fail to report critically. It's sad and obvious.
He should be censored by the judge and then, when he breaks his censor, put in jail for a month.
That’ll teach the bitch.
Make your own fight league and pay all fighters $1 million minimum salary per fight. You'll be raking in the dough brother
Also give free healthcare and pensions
Dana has his knee pads for Jon Jones. It's all about buisness until it's not. Tom needs to fight Jones next.
Ya, he got tired of using them on Connor.
And the saudi traffickers
More then that he has a gaping hole for him !
he's losing his son conor .. lol
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Never knew Jon Anik did play-by-play for the first PPV Bellator event, learn something new everyday 👌🏼
If only the ufc allowed fighters to have at least 2 sponsors, a lot of these issues would be greatly reduced.
I miss the race car shorts era.
It's the fact that they said ditching sponsors on shorts looks more professional and uniform, but then have the octagon looking like it does with about 40 sponsors on the mat, on the pillars etc
Not to mention they are going back on the uniform thing by letting fighters have custom shorts now (clearly they realise all looking the same doesn't let certain guys stand out)
Meanwhile, Super Rizin 3 was better than anything the UFC has done all year that wasn't 300
Really? Didn't even hear about it tbh. Where can I watch?
There's a reason why nobody cares enough to watch all these other promotions.
UFC's practices might be scummy, but they're the only promotion that actually tries to grow their audience instead of putting on hard hitting fights that nobody is watching.
@NapoleonBlownapartMMA Nice to see you Napoleon. Looking forward to the Lesnar video!
Super Rizin is popular in Japan or maybe in some nearby east asian countries....but its nowhere competitive to UFC lol
@justinbryanaspuria7318 he's definitely not saying it does, just thst the fights were better than the fight night level ppv's ufcs put on lately
People should look at what One FC and Rizin are doing; nobody in Japan and most other parts of Asia care at all for the UFC. It was a real shock for me when I worked in Japan for a while and made friends who were also into MMA, but who never watched UFC because to them it was the lesser promotion as opposed to Rizin and One.
I watch Rizin, and one fc. I’ve heard one fc will probably fold soon, because they haven’t been able to make a profit yet. However if one fc folds then that would definitely strengthen Rizin. People in the west have no idea how big the events are. I really hope they can compete with the ufc like pride did.
"Most other parts of Asia" dude that cannot be more incorrect...
One FC is literally dead rn and no one gives a damn about them 😂
"Hogging top talent? We JUST let an undefeated fighter go explore other opportunities!" - Dana next presser 😂
Predatory tactics and the consolidation of talent .
Consolidation of talent is the biggest crock of shit out of all the excuses you people use. Even no name dogshit fighters in the UFC are more popular and well know than almost every other "star" in other promotions. The UFC is where talented fighters choose to go 99% of the time because it is the premier organization for a reason. The pay the most, the hold almost all the mma audience, therefore allowing fighters to benefit and profit from the expose for themselves and there are plenty of top level talents in other promotion...just nobody gives a shit about the promotions because they are promoted good, if at all. Every other organization and promotion should be thanking the UFC that MMA is as popular as it is because without the UFC's early success, that took years and years and 10s of millions of dollars of debt to achieve, MMA wouldn't be a fraction of what it is today.
I wouldn’t exactly say they’ve consolidated talent, they basically all the best fighters in the west but a strangely low number of asain fighters considering how big martial arts are in the east, it’s because the best fighters in the east are in ONE but Dana has basically brainwashed westerners into thinking they have all the best fighters in the world, and it just so happens they are all from America, Brazil, Britain, and the west side of Russia. It’s more an illusion of talent consolidation
I guess you can say the same thing about the NFL, NBA, and MLB!
@curtharakaly4620 I am very happy, that MMA is where it is now and I know the UFC had a big part in that, but don't act like the heads of the UFC only grew the sport, because they love(d) it so much. They were and are business men front and foremost and want to make money. Most fighters also want to make money, but they also want to be considered the best or one of the best in the world and everyone knows the UFC has like 95% of the elite talent in the world. It is a vicious cycle
@@mavenmaven4513 exactly
Dana has no competition and yet still greedy to keep more for himself.
He has always been a douchebag nothing new there.
JUST LIKE WWE…THATS PROBABLY WHY THEY MERGED
Essentially a super monopoly
And MLB, NFL, NBA... this is what pro sports is. the difference is UFC are using those as examples on how to better solidify their spot. To be fair, boxing made things so bad people didn't realize where UFC was headed.
@@_CoachWboxing made what bad. Boxing is the only one which isn’t a monopoly. It’s got other issues around corruption. A blind man could’ve told you where the ufc was headed if they did collaborations with other promotions, this problem wouldn’t exist. You can’t have independent contractors but they can’t fight anywhere else and can’t make sponsorship decisions for themselves. It isn’t like team sports.
@@amaanraza7749 Boxing isn't a monopoly? How exactly do you define monopoly?
Because by even by loose standards you have a handful of promotors (companies) that control most of the business. The only difference is when you become a star at the top.
And saw it coming a mile away? Sure it's easy to claim that in hindsight. When they were running on debt and eating potshots from Vince McMahon, no one had a problem with their practices.
Also the WWF now WWE did not get where they are by collaborating with other territories
Also why does no one complain about the monopoly of MLB, NBA, NFL?
Do you think they welcome competition and collaboration? And as far as pay goes.
Ever wonder how the NFL makes the most money but pays their athletes comparably less to what they generate?
And as far as making deals for themselves. Feel free to check this for yourself.
When Mike Nolan was a coach for the 49ers his dad passed away. In honor of him he decided to wear a suit like his father and other traditional coaches used to.
And the NFL fined him, for not wearing clothing with the Reebok logo.
Reebok? Hmmm, now why does that sound familiar.
To be clear, this does not absolve the UFC of their behavior. But this tunnel vision as if thy are so evil in comparison is simply based on people not knowing their sport history. Or how pro sport teams, owners and organizations actually operate.
And unfortunately, UFC has learned from that history.
fighters make the ufc. when will people learn that workers shape the world and need to be taken care of. corporate greed has gone too far.
The funny thing is also, that I have seen people who complain about the fighters earning to much, but have seemingly no problem with the CEOs holding all the money
@@mavenmaven4513 business owners don’t think that way. They believe they make or break the companies and workers are just meaningless drones who can be replaced
delusional worker who never owned a business. if workers shape the world, let these fighters have their own private backstreet fight. nobody is paying thousands of dollars to see a backstreet fight
@@thaabyss9320if ceos shape it, let them have their fights among each other. Delulu capitalist bootlicker
@@thaabyss9320 people pay to see fighters fight, no one would pay to see Dana make his corpo suits fight.
Try to run a successful business without workers, tell me how that goes for ya
It's the same reason that no one will ever compete with the NFL: the public perception, and for the most part true: the best fighters are in the UFC to the casual fans. No one who watches the NFL is gonna watch arena football over it, if at all. In addition to the monopoly via the contracts they have
That's part of it : I mean, the fact is UFC doesn't just have "fighters".
They have "household names". Remember Cormier vs Jones and how wild that was?
No other org captures that level of drama.
You cannot even get that in a movie.
Nailed it
I really don't think you can compare it. In the NFL you have 32 Palaces to get a contract in the UFC you have 1. NFL also has a Union and decent profit sharing
How are fighter contracts a "monopoly" when every single major sport has contracts for their athletes and nobody is bitching about that. This whole narrative that UFC is controlling the market is dumb to put it lightly. There are plenty of top level guys not fighting in the UFC and those organizations just suck at promoting. No other promotion can compete with the UFC because those promotions don't know how to...flat out. And everyone crying that the UFC is this big bad meanie fails to realize that if the UFC didn't succeed when it did MMA wouldn't be even remotely close to as mainstream as it is now. People should be thanking the UFC that MMA isn't frowned and looked down upon anymore, as well as not being allowed in most states like it used to be.
Feel like that comparison isn’t really that solid but I do understand.
The only way to compete with UFC is to get Andy Wang on your roster. #iykyk
At the end of the day, Andy Wang is a warrior.
Dude was a warrior
“Waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa”- BJ penns best quote
stand and wang
That dude has the heart of a waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa-rrior
I just wanna know how it's legal to put in someone's contract that you. Can't sue them for wrongful treatment while employed.
That the bigger issue beyond just the UFC: the American legal system gives corporations more rights than the people they employ
I'll be happy once the lawsuit is done and Dana takes a massive hit on this. It's not making the sport better, and it hurts fighters (beyond the obvious cagetime). That woman crying about how broke she is because of the sport still would have been broke if not for the bonus. These fighters are working for tips, basically, and the tip is all decided by Dana. That's too much power, and it's abusive.
I'd love a video about recent fighter inactivity and how that relates to fighter pay
A good idea
Alot of the fighters that complain about pay fight once a year
@@drunkenmmamaster419 bro you got ufc fighters making more in one boxing fight then they made in their ENTIRE ufc career. Stop simping for these goofballs.
@@drunkenmmamaster419 A lot of fighters could fight and win 5 times a year and barely make middle class with the wage.
Fighters can’t just anytime they want
It’s kind of wild to me that Dana used to manage fighters and trying to get them the most money, to not caring about fighter pay.
🤯
Power and money have a real way of corrupting people… remember when he would urge past their prime stars to gracefully retire instead of milking their names over 5+ fight losing streaks?
when managing fighters, them being paid more means you get paid more. when managing a promotion, the fighters getting paid less means you get paid more
Dana sitting on his throne:
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women"
Pride was absolutely not viable. The journalists who exposed Pride's Yakuza connections made sure everyone knew that the hit pieces would keep coming if Pride events were continued under UFC management.
There was brand name recognition and a library of fights. Nothing else. The purchase didn't even include contracts with active fighters.
I think what they mean is, there was an existing market and demand for MMA in Japan at that time. Pride wasn’t viable because it was run by goofballs who were under control of Yakuza & the company was used to launder money and how knows what else
If it was properly run by actual professionals, the way the UFC is / was, Pride could absolutely have remained in business and made money. The demand was there, and that’s the key factor
The they didn’t mention in the videos they only got the pride name and library in that purchase and none of the fighters. They got ripped off with that transaction at the time.
Most of the fights in Pride were fixed too idk why nobody brings that up
@@drunkenmmamaster419Because "most" is just not true
I don’t think contracts should be fight based. It should be year based. You sign a 2 year contract, not an 8 fight contract. If you sign a contract for 8 fights, and get to fight 7, the UFC can stall that 8th fight as long as they want. A 2 year contract, the UFC can only stall you for 2 years at most.
But I think it would be two one sided for the benefit of the fighters. Maybe something like 2 years, 4 fights, with some extra clauses regarding senseable matchups. So the UFC has to offer the fighter atleats 4 fights in the 2 year span and the fighter has to take atleast 4 fights in the 2 year span
They kind of are they just don't end in the timespan because they just extend the contract if you are injured or turn down a fight. But I do agree there should be no extension clauses it should not last more than 2 years.
@@mavenmaven4513 I think they are x amount of fights on the contract, and I think the UFC has to offer them x amount a year. But they did this with someone recently where they were offering the last fight on the contract, but they were offering awful fights at a lower pay and the person eventually was forced to accept to get out. Contracts should be 2 year contracts with a Minimum of 2 offered fights per year assuming the person isn’t injured. If you do a contract where they have to fight 8 times, or be offered a minimum of 10 fights, the UFC can stonewall it. Times contracts are better for the fighters than fight total contracts. If they did a 2 year contract, they could almost do salary. If a fighter is guaranteed to make 200k across 4 fights in 2 years, they could pay them a quarterly salary for those 2 years and payments start after the first fight takes place. If a fighter gets injured, the salary would be passed. It’s probably way too complicated at this point to make a giant change, but there should be some sort of change
The ufc can force a fighter to fight 10 times in 2 years.
@@yommmrrthey can't force anyone to do anyone they can attempt to manipulate they can fire you for being disobedient but can't force anyone to fight
UFC is the UA-cam of MMA.
The Google of the internet.
I thought that was ONE Championship
Except they don’t regularly engage in anti competitive business practices, pay their employees very fairly and aren’t represented by a hgh goblin
@@Souljaxl they don't? Well maybe not the hgh goblin, but the rest seems legit.
More essays please. I love these.
If it's borderline impossible to compete with the UFC, you think muhammed mokaev would have been more cautious. He wasn't a needle mover and had a boring style yet constantly got into trouble, and then acts shocked when he's not renewed.
Outside of their sport, fighters are not known for being the smartest dudes out there.
He probably thought, that being a top level would keep him safe from repercussions and the UFC has allowed much worse behavior in the past. I know that was by "needle movers", but all fighters in the UFC are (have to be) delusional about their worth to some degree, because if you don't consider yourself the best, how do you want to compete with the best
Yea cuz humans Can just change their behavior or fighting style....
The “needle mover” argument is so dumb now since the UFC is a content farm for ESPN. Just like how Monday night football is on ESPN and Sunday night football is for NBC, they get paid for the content. The UFC has its own fight pass, why doesn’t it sell its fights on there? ESPN give the UFc about a billion dollars every year before any fight. Remember Ngannou? Why didn’t they promote his fight with Gane? Cuz Dana didn’t like him and didn’t care about the ppv when they get their check regardless from espn
Tied of watching crummy streams cuz I ain’t paying $100 every match, and even having paid that, their streams still skip in and out. I’d watch another company if they had good mma fights
As a fan i want the sport to stay the same, but i also want the fighters to make more money too. No one fighting under the ufc should be barely scrapping by or negativite in their account.
I think it is a delicate line. Fighters getting paid more, also means they can get the best equipment, the best training, the best food possible and can become the best athletes possible, that means better fighters and inturn better fights for the fans. But I also really dont want to see MMA turn into (heavyweight) boxing
Dana doesn’t even have to give them money from his own pockets
He can literally allow fighters to have 2-3 sponsors each and things would heavily change
The Reebok deal truly fucked ufc fighters pay
If the fighters went on strike and flat out said we will not fight until renegotiation
Fighting is a selfish sport and fighters are typically not known to be the smartest people on earth. Many fighters also need the pay checks, so they have no other choice than fight. I think another thing is also, that the UFC is dominated by right leaning americans, who somehow still believe in the american dream and that unionizing, taxation and controlling corporations are the worst things imaginable. It would be almost impossible to organize a strike in that environment. Look at the lawsuit. The judges are seemingly fighting harder for the fighters rights, than the fighters themselves
Too many fighters are just happy to be there for that to happen.
There's too many dc, bisping, paddy type fighters who are on Dana's nutsack
They would just sign a bunch of bumfucks from brazil uk and russia and call it a day. Thats the problem with that idea.
They horde so much of the money they make instead of paying fighters so they will always outspend and outlast the competition
Yeah paying for atleast 20 fighter's food,hotel, flights, transportation among other thing's every Saturday is nothing fill your own pockets quit watchung everyone else's
@@redrum3419take your own advice.
@@redrum3419how’s that shoe taste? I will do it no problem, with 300 fighters if you give me 4 billion dollars which and two rich state athletic commission sponsors
This is true - monopolization leads always to
The highest degree of concentration of capital, while creating the highest general cost for the public
@@nathanbruce1992 What does knowing how businesses run have to do with watching pockets the world is so handicapped know🤣
The era of deregulation needs to come to an end. We need real antitrust enforcement again. Especially with the UFC gouging viewers at every opportunity.
They aren't forcing anyone to buy the ppv
@@BURDYMAN777Price gouging never "forces" anyone to buy the product or service....that doesn't mean it isn't price gouging brianiac
@@GWFHegel-ms7gzI swear there so many brain dead mma fans that get on their knees for Dana. No one in their right mind would want to work for someone like Dana.
@@BURDYMAN777 Correct, which is why an increasing number of fans are buying VPN's and pirating the events.
Why does no one mention one fc it’s an outstanding promotion maybe not at large but they got a stacked roster
Cause they are gonna fold soon
I look at there’s probably fighters that have the potential to better than jones, Dustin and etc but don’t get into the sport because good fighters don’t get paid
UFC doesn't have competition in the United States ever heard of One Championship? PPV on Amazon prime and a lot of talent....
That’s not competition. They barely make money. Remember when our government went after Microsoft for being a monopoly? Was Apple not in existence then? What about IBM and Linux? They were around too. And they claim school is stupid. This is why we need to go to school. You’re opining on stuff your not informed about
The UFC has by far the biggest market share on MMA. One isn't really an MMA promotion. Their best fights are 4 Oz Muay Thay and grappling. They are also seemingly burning money and are not profitable. Same with PFL
@@mavenmaven4513 That being said I do like (and probably why I prefer One over UFC) is how One really does offer a more unique product in that when you tune in for a card you are getting a nice variety of pure striking, pure grappling and mma fights. Though I will agree with you that One's biggest stars in terms of quantity is really in their muay thai (which have also crossed over into kickboxing aka Jonathan Haggerty) and grappling departments, though there are some really good names in their MMA rosters like Stamp Fairtex, Demetrius Johnson and Anatoliy Malykhin
Unfortunantely ONE is already at risk of going under. They haven't made a profit since they started.
It's crazy how much money dana has... and yet some fighters need a second job...
Maybe if those fighters fought more than once a year they wouldn't need to. Any fighter that fights 3 times a year would make more than enough money, but they choose to sit out. And it's honestly crazy how you fans, that know nothing about anything, butch and cry about fighter pay and "equality" than the actual fighters do. The UFC pays more than any other promotion does and its not even remotely close.
Yeah fighting once a year and dragging ass cause you want to fight a certain person or fight on a certain card or location doesn’t help. Neither does lack luster fights lol
@@curtharakaly4620yea...because they make a shit tonne more money.
Think you should probably do a deep dive into where that money goes.
@curtharakaly4620 You're not an expert bud... some lesser known fighters do fight more than once a year and still need additional income... some live out of their cars... so defending a multibillion dollar corporation is wild...
@@bigoldawg2791 they can always go get a regular job like the rest of us, stop crying for them it’s pathetic. We all want more money, I signed a contract yesterday and I’m not going to cry about how much money I’m not making after I agreed to it.
I remember rooms and TVs like the one Joe Rogan was watching that old petrazelli fight on.
You're cool
@@drunkenmmamaster419hahaha bro is wayyy too cool for u to insult him with that
@@BastedwithMustard thanks brother, good lookin out🤙turns out you're actually the cool one. 😎
Imo every fighter on the ufc roster should make 100k yearly. Minimum 2 fights a year 50k each fight bonus money if you win on top of the performance bonus etc. If your injured you should get some type of compensation to be able to heal properly with out worry of money. Thats how id pay the fighters. Also they should be allowed their own sponsors
Even prisoners can criticize and legally go after the prisons when they’ve been unfairly and unethically treated, it’s insane that an employer can include “no class action waivers” when unethical or illegal behavior is occurring. UFC really views fighters less than prisoners.
all things fade away or are replaced, eventually
How UFC battles their competition is the same thing Vince McMahon did to the territory promotions back in the 80s
John Nash is a baller of the highest level.
Money>love of the sport once again wins.
When you have someone in charge who only cares about making money and is not a true lover of the sport, you have issues like these.
10:17 fair point I think.. 11:31 this interesting imo. For me, the talking point that we need UFC to be in control to make sure the best always fight the best and it doesn't become like boxing, loses steam when we get championship fights like Leon v Colby, Suga v Chito, and Jon v Stipe. There were(or are) clearly better, more deserving contenders in each case imo.
A judge letting two parties reach an agreement and then saying “actually no” reminds me of my wife when she says she doesn’t care where we eat…….
Because its blatantly a corporation buying out legit criticism. The judge recognizes the importance of at the very least, allowing a trial and jury judge the situation
@@reservoirfrogs2177bruh it’s crazy how many people haven’t taken Econ 101. But let these guys tell it, school is not important. If something as simple as a monopoly is going over peoples head and its ills, shows how daft the world is today. Like our government went against Microsoft, who the eff is the UFC?
@CanonArmQB What school doesn't teach is the fact monopolies are only created with the aid of goverment regulation
@reservoirfrogs2177 If you knew the law and 99% of people don't, what the judge did is unconstitutional. They are operating way outside their jurisdiction because they secretly operate off maritime law
@@CanonArmQByou have a lot to learn if you think the government really fights for justice. Good luck learning their true nature in the schools regulated by that same government.
Yall the goats! Love yall! Keeping me busy during my lunch breaks 🫡
Why can't UFC be like back in the day where UFC fighters can fight in other promotions or even fight in Hawaii but the UFC is so weird they make the fighters stuck on your forced to only fight in the UFC
Thanks for the video
This happened and Dana goes to England, was not happy with King Green chanting up bonus pays and said that will never happen again and also did not re-sign the contracts for the 23 year old, undefeated guy that won a boring fight. I think Dana's manners that weekend had something to do with this lawsuit.
Bro, the judge knowing Dana is called a Conflict of Interest... That is a way to "debunk the case." 🤦♂️👍
If they knew each other beyond attending the same high school, then that would've been addressed waaay before the class was certified. But they did not. They just attended the same school.
As a matter of fact, judge boulware was a senior at the time when they both attended. Add to that, he was president of student goverment. They were never in the same circles. Dana got kicked out of that school, and graduated in Maine.
Again, you can't try to muddy the waters while sitting on info you claim to have.
Thank God for the essay style. Aint got time for podcasts these days
The problem with the UFC is that they’re the ones at the bargaining table with the most leverage. The only way to make things better for the fighters is relying on the UFC to do so.
UFC is too big to fail, only way it will ever topple is if something happens to it like what happened to Pride FC, UFC will make its own downfall.
It is up to other promotions and minds to usurp the UFC, it should not be up to the UFC to play with kid gloves regarding their competition. That is how business works
"Floyd having more money then God"... Stop the Blaspheme...
I think One is competing with the UFC already. PFL and others don't seem to be competing at all though.
Edit: Rizin has been pretty good actually
One is literally hemmorhaging money 😂
I have zero interest in raising
fighter pay . These are grown adults signing contacts, if they don’t like it, don’t sign
Yep and the fact that other grown men on the internet have so much concern for what another grown man makes is weird
So at this point we need top fighters to stop signing with them
How? You become a top fighter by beating top fighters who are all in the UFC. The contracts are very hard to get out of is a champion going to wait out or fight out a contract that could take another 2-4 years or if they offer you a new deal for a bit more money. You could loose the belt and a lot of your leverage in that time. Look at Izzy and Usman there reigns as Champ lasted about 4 years. There is a reason Francis was the first person to do it before him it was almost impossible to leave as a champ and they have made them more restrictive again after he left.
@@AnTTr0n I mean more of thinking guys like Alverez and Pimblett when they had offers from the ufc but chose to keep fighting in other organizations
I’m good with one/two global organisations and more would make it akin to boxing - not good. The issue is when there are only one/two promotions the burden on those promotions to treat fighters fairly increases - because there is no competition. I don’t know all the facts around fighter remuneration therefore, I can’t really comment whether the fighters are being exploited or not. Just because there is a lot of media ‘noise’ on this topic suggesting fighters are being exploited doesn’t make it true. At the end of the day, don’t sign a contract if you are not happy with the terms (this applies across the board)…
Yes, the ufc is anti-competition in their business in practice. It’s time the playing field was made fair. If they’re the best as they seem to think - then having others in the market wouldn’t affect them because they still rise to the top - that is, if things are actually fair, which it currently isn’t.
Except there are tons of other promotions out there in almost every single country of the world. Those promotions just suck at PROMOTING their fighters and business as a whole. And your last statement makes no sense and shows how dumb you are. They are the best promotion in the world, the top level talent almost always chooses the UFC over any other promotion because the UFC pays drastically more, and actually promotes their fighters so that the fighters can build their own brand and be able to generate an income after fighting. The UFC doesn't give a shit if 1000s of other promotions pop up. The best fighters will always end up choosing to fight in the UFC on their own accord for a reason.
I wish more mma media covered this and more mma fans cared. It’s crazy how many fans and current fighters have very little knowledge about this and do nothing to fight the ufc.
The UFC being a monopoly is the single best thing going for MMA. Once you all get your way, watch the sport crumble, like boxing, where it is basically a sport that cannot be followed, there is no consensus best, fighters barely ever fight each other in their prime, it’s all PPV..
If you actually want the sport to work, you want the UFC to become the NBA of MMA.
Dana tells us exactly why the UFC ruins the sport, Dana says : "this is not a career this is an opportunity" well the top athletes will pick the sports that are a career like boxers which if you get to the top you are set for life or basketball, football, baseball etc. We cant see the full development of MMA cause the UFC is treating it like the WWE entertainment instead of a real sport
Thanks, awesome episodes and great to hear john nash
The UFC won’t have competitors for variety of reasons and quite frankly from a fan perspective that’s a good thing. A lot of this anti-ufc stuff is just anti-Dana (which is fine) but it actually wouldn’t be good for the fans.
No matter how rich Dana gets, he'll always be trash.
Doesn’t matter. Without Dana and the Fert Bros. most of these fighters wouldn’t even have the opportunity to be fighting. They’d be working 9 to 5 jobs like everyone else. The UFC was going under and eventually Pride was going under to so if Dana and company wouldn’t have stepped in there would be no major MMA promotions and the sport would’ve died in the early 2000s.
A bunch of people think the sport is called ufc. All of these other promotions only dilapidate the sport when guys like Francis get paid or think they can get paid more to fight somewhere else. Nobody watches the other promotions except diehards and y’all know this is true.
Just pay the fighters, make them happy and not starving. No trials, no courts, everyone still profits, UFC brass will still be billionaires. Simple. Easy. Done. Wtf.
The main problem a lot of competing orgs to the UFC is they dont have the same level of prestige in the sport so the only big names they tend to scalp is older fighters or fighters on a decline that they have to over pay for and they dont get the PPV buys or ticket sales to sustain they then go bust a new org pops up does the same and go under. Only Bellator and One FC can survive and they still get looked down as inferior simply because they arent the UFC regardless of how many great fighters they have. Also the sport of MMA is commonly mistake as the sport of UFC so that really hurts competing orgs in the long run
As long as they do it right I’m not bothered that they are the only top org. I stream it for free anyways.
The UFC's production is far superior compared to anywhere else where you can tell the production quality is absolute shite.
I'd say ONE is on par of not a little more at times in terms of sheer production.
I don't know. Have you seen some of the Japanese shows. They put so much into the shows, the UFC pales in comparsion
Well they make more than 10x the money of everyone else so how can there's be as good lol
Great video
MONOPOLY!
Smh 🤦🏾♂️ Dana white and the UFC are crooks in my opinion. how 1 man and a company can be soooo greedy is insane 🤯 to me smh
Tommy from MMA on point. We've missed you.
Damn this is really sad. I really hope the ufc has to change their contracts and the fighters get what they deserve. They are the ones getting all the brain damage, bodily injuries, and put their life on the line. It’s crazy
What a mess. Ufc has probably made 20-30 billion. They should pay half over the next 25 years to past and current fighters. "Heres your 20k/20k and your 5.7 million settlement money. So when can we book you for another 20k/20k ?"
Why do ppl keep brining up the NFL? If MMA was like the NFL, then that would be great. You would have clubs (gyms) that got paid based on performance and merch. Then the fighters would get paid more. So this isn't ANYTHING like the NFL as players DO go from club to club unlike fighters being able to go from promotion to promotion.
In before youtubers and twitch streamers make there own version that gets triple the views overnight
UFC is heads and shoulders above the competition due to their ability to market. I never see advertisements for Bellator or PFL fights. Obviously the UFC's deal with ESPN helps but the other fight leagues need to find another network they can partner with to hold fights and market their brand. Rampage Jackson was just talking about this on a recent podcast how Bellator is a good organization for fighters but their marketing is terrible.
It’s also becoming impossible to compete IN the UFC. The PED athletes are completely taking over the main event last Saturday really broke my heart…
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Sound like the Diaz bros when they lose a fight "All you mfs are on steroids" cmon man
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That’s always been a part of the sport since the beginning 😅
@@marblejar786 they are tho? Open your eyes do some research.
Regardless of if top talent leaves, noone is going to qatch the other promotions
Earliest I’ve ever been keep up the great work been watching for years you guys are amazing
Meanwhile Dana ‘if you don’t like how I treat my fighters go make your own promotion!!’
Dana got some serious Ozempic face in that interview about the judge, good god.
Finally. After all these years of talking about this trial. Someone has said five billion and not one point four. I was thinking this day would never come
This is the problem when companies have all the power and the workers aren't appreicated and on top of that you have a monopoly of the product creating a vaccum where the UFC has all the power.
Its all business until a fighter makes a business decision the ufc doesnt agree with.
I remember seeing that Kimbo Vs Seth Petruzelli fight live. May have been my first MMA fight that I watched. Memories.
Every fighter agrees & signs their contract. They know ExactlyWHAT they will make. Win or loss.
How come PFL can pay fighters more than UFC ?
When D. Johnson left, he made waaaaaaay more in that one contract then his entire UFC Career.
Francis got a huge deal too
@4:00 in and I already see the same thing a ton of people just do not realize - that is how corporations work in securing themselves at the top. this is a tried and true method for any corporation. buy out your competition the second they struggle, or remove the chance for them to cut into your profit margins. assimilate where needed, but mostly just stop them from existing and flood your work force with more "employees" allowing for decreased wages due to the over abundance of workers.
its no different in any other aspect except that some businesses will also buy patents for anything under their umbrella to also stop "generics" coming out while also profiting of of those "generic" products while showing the facade of competition.
luckily with the fight game we still have other types and promotions, but man is it hard to stop the top dawg from ruining a ton of things along the way.
If they really want to undercut the UFC the future fighters are going to have to opt out of going to the UFC and go to different mixed martial arts organizations., for example why not take your chances with the pfl? Sure they may not be in the major spotlight like the UFC but at least you will be on a platform to promote yourself.
I am confused by the conceit that it is the UFC's responsibility to be civil towards its competitors. That is literally antithetical to their own success and growth. It is up to the other promotions to attract sponsors, to recruit and promote fighters, to earn a good tv deal, and if all else fails, it is their responsibility to sell to someone they trust.
The whole thing of "well, what if a million of sanctioning bodies show up and yada yada..." Could be solved by having an mma association(MMAFA) become a "watchdog" and recognize only 3 bodies max.
The UFC would still be getting the fights under their banner since the the damage they did is already done. They got the billions of dollars off the backs of the fighters, the least they could do is pay for bouts.
The product is what matters. Pride challenged UFC for #1 because they were as good if not better. PFL merged with Bellator, and became even less of a competitor, because they dropped anything that Bellator had that made them a compelling product.
I'ma be real. I don't want the UFC to have any LEGITIMATELY EQUAL competition. I just want the fighters to get their fair share. I still think a fighter union/association is the best option.
That super fast scan of the hall of famers 😂😅
I think Dana and the UFC may have tipped off Japanese authorities to the Yakuza link.
You can’t compete with the NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. either.
Even after Zoffa bought WEC, UFC keep pushing the WEC name, with a very good roster in the lighter divisions, but eventually WEC was dissolved, because it wasn't doing well.
They didn't promote it they just ran it as a separate org.
I'm fairly certain there is something in the books that makes those clauses where they can't be apart of a class action lawsuit are null and void.
There is no clause that says they can’t be part of a class action lawsuit
Pride FC had the Yakuza mad if had the.... Never mind but let's just say the fertitas family didn't gain their wealth selling cookies.
To many pocket watchers these day's
Unfortunately, UFC broke the anti-trust law and monopolising the system and made the competitive market leans to UFC market more..they deserved yo be hand checked..lol..but I hope we need the higher ups clam down and share the wealth..
These arguments are really tired. This lawsuit is a waste of money and time.
Journalists are far more invested than talent or the fans.
And people like you are the problem