Are M1 Mac's FINALLY Worth it for Premiere Pro Video Editing?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2021
- Testing M1 MacBook Pro with Premiere Pro 2021 15.4 Native Apple Silicon M1!
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In this video, I test out the new native apple silicon version of Premiere Pro 2021 out of Premiere Pro BETA with a wide variety of codecs 4K stabilization, h.264 and h.265 HEVC and how these will do editing Canon R5 10-Bit 4:2:2 422 C-Log footage that's also in the Canon R6 and C70, c300 mkii, and more cameras.
I also test other raw such as Canon Cinema RAW Lite from c200, Red .R3D and more from with metal graphics decoding. In my next video I will test 8GB vs 16GB RAM for video editing on the 2020 13" MacBook pro with M1 processor.
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Apple simply has to deliver an M 1 x or 2 Macbook Pro with a way more powerful CPU and especially GPU and since they are just updating the graphics card for the Mac Pro Apple is obviously in real trouble. They should have just changed the CPU’s to AMD and Graphics Card to Nvidia and not the Graphics card of AMD which still leak behind the RTX 3900 alone based on video Memory. Its really sad but if their is no M1X available until October i will switch to Razer and Asus which both produce killer video and 3 D VFX rendering nachines
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I am not surprised Max. I wasn’t expecting much myself.
Thank you for sharing this video. I know it took a while to make it.
Thanks for always testing this!
Great video, Max!
Rirst
Thank you so muchhh for the video !!
Main three reasons for me to drop PP: Slow, buggy and expensive
Expensive? You want to edit 4k 10 bit camera level shieet ? And call this expensive? One lens alone costs the same of the mac mini
yea when i use premiere pro the clip lags
Adobe is so disappointing to me. How come Black magic design which is a much smaller company can do a much better job on coding and optimizations than Adobe does? Adobe is too cheap to pay the programmers to do the job, or Adobe doesn't care customers or too lazy and greedy.
Fcpx is ‘a one time off’, adobe is a monthly recurring cost, with extras I don’t need. Easy choice when taking the speed and hardware needs into account
@@BlackCat.Designs it's $500 a year
i would suggest adding the project files in the description so we can each get a real life comparison of ow systems to the m1 mac and if we should upgrade or not
Thanks for your testing and hardwork on this. I appreciate it. Was really curious what the differences were going with native premiere on M1. Glad Adobe made the effort to get this far and just hoping they jump all the way in the pool and redo premiere to get it optimized all the way for M1.
Thanks for the video, Mas. It’s good to know that when I upgrade I’ll be using Resolve for all my editing moving forward.
Yes, finally video on the Max Yuryev video 😍
Hey Max! Thanks
Please do a video on how it’s with after effects also!
Can't wait for a high end M1X / M2 powered 16"MBP
Hey Max I'm looking to understand here. Is a Macbook pro good for an adobe user over a razer blade or no?
Genuine opinion 👍👍
Hi Max, hope to see some comparisons now between M1 Max and Mac Pro with FCP and Lightroom exports.
plz make same video on After Effect performance on m1 macbook pro.
Hoping you also make a video on Adobe aftereffects on M1 native
Thank you! I was frustrated as I was on a 13inch MacBook Pro using Premiere Pro for a 30min, H.264, 4k video. It took 2+ hours to render, and Adobe was not giving any help. I will wait for M1X in hopes of better efficiency of the GPU chip processing by Adobe
Could you do this video again but on the new M1 Pro macs?
I find the Mac Mini to be a very nice Premiere editing experience in a “fast quad-core” kind of way. I edit a lot in multicam 4K so I use proxies. I do the same on my 12-core 2080ti rig, which can’t edit smoothly with 4K multicam either. It’s still great for the price and power envelope, but it’s not a reason to switch from a traditional machine for Premiere.
They are now
For an uknown reason Premiere Pro was always slower even in my Ryzen 3900x PC with RTX 3060Ti card compared to Davinci... But I have grown up with Premiere so, I m still using the old school techniques like proxy files and when I don't, I m just waiting patiently... I have bought the M1 Mac Air with 16GB Ram as a portable computer and for simple videos (not RAW) it is just fine for a laptop.
And this is one more reason why I'm natively a FCPX person. I'm so tired of the "Industry Standard" argument.
Make this video again using the new released mac pro fully specked. Im trying to see if ai should buy that or the imac 32inch when it comes out in a year
I recently switched to final cut and man I’m so glad I did 😩
Premiere pro is best..
M1 is crap for premiere pro
@@asdbef3667 Reverse that, Premiere is crap for everything, why punish yourself, see the light.
@@asdbef3667 I love PP but it seems like PP isn’t efficient on M1. Lightroom flies on M1
@@Final_Cut_FF stop fanboying
Premiere pro is the best..
Fcp does not even come close
@@asdbef3667 at this point, if you read your own comments you'd know who's fanboying
What about Adobe After Effects? Please show some tests of M1 Macbook Pro running After Effects.
max witch cpu gpu monitor do you use in macos??
If there is no ports in macbook pro 2021 what will be your reaction ?
Which model are you using , the base M1 Pro model ?
We got a few blind Adobe fans over here: “what?! He is saying that some footage runs at less than 1FPS on Premiere Pro while it runs perfectly realtime buttery smooth on FCP or Resolve since over half a year ago? DOWNVOTE!”
I’m not saying let’s trash Adobe either and I do think that being native M1 is a step in the right direction but I’ll always be skeptical of anything they do.
They split software in tiny pieces, then they bloat each of those with features that nobody asked for, cloud/libraries/etc bloat inside your favorite app, all while leaving years of unfixed bugs untouched (I can’t believe for example that on Mac when doing Save As… to a PNG file and hitting “Replace the file” the damn thing doesn’t replace it and creates a new file for it.
“M1 Native”? Ok, sure, fine, let’s wait to see if they actually finish the job and use ALL of the M1 and not just compile to it.
One of the issue is that Adobe has used since forever their own legacy UI/Rendering/Navigation/Scripting/etc etc libraries and engines which requires a massive amount of work to keep up and update to current standards and systems upgrades.
finnaly someone said that
I think overall Adobe has done a fantastic job with most of their programs, updating them properly and making solid improvements that make use of better hardware, but Premiere is by far the worst. Least optimized, least efficient, constant crashes and bugs, it really is a nightmare. I'm slowly moving over to Davinci for anything above 4k60.
With the financial resources they definitely can do better. I feel they need to start from scratch and focus on fixing bugs and enhance performance. Some new features can wait. With Adobe Max approaching with there be another update?
Also, Apple is attending NAB this year could be huge.
It's hilarious to me how they still haven't made changes to use all the cores Ryzen CPUs offer. Because of this they end up being worse than Intel, even though intel is trash in comparison
@@lime4 I'm not entirely sure about that. I've got a 16 core Ryzen CPU and have gotten good Premiere performance from it for the most part. I think the GPU is the problem. I recently took my 2nd GPU out and put it in an external enclosure, and I'm mainly running Premiere with one GPU now and it runs SOOOO much more stable. I can actually edit 8K footage from the Sony A1 to some extent whereas before it was choppy as hell or would go completely black after a few minutes, which was most definitely a GPU issue.
Thank you for your video. It's pretty clear that Adobe is not focusing its efforts on having Premiere Pro run fast / natively on the M1 Macs. Somebody from the Apple Developers should pay them a visit and teach them how it's done.
Lol..
Wondering if the M1pro will run this smoothly? Or if not the M1max… or if this is going to be a clear issue with Adobe.
What about editing 1080
Can you do a video using LumaFusion on m1 MacBook Air??
awesome awesome awesome
I don't understand how DaVinci Resolve is so well optimised for M1 in comparison to Premiere Pro. You'd think that given the size of Adobe, they would have the best software. I'm assuming a bunch of legacy code is bogging down the performance of Premiere?
Does the new macbook work better ?
Make Video on Sony's new Camera
Well, I guess I'll stick with Proxy workflow then..I have patience.
What about the 16gb ram version? Does it run premiere faster?
Thank you for the video! How is called the program that shows usage of CPU etc on a taskbar? Thanks!
I would really like to see how responsive Premiere is when using J, K, L and arrow up and down in a large project. How fast does it begin to play backwards when hitting J while playing forward? Is possible to hit L a couple of times to skim a long timeline without freezing? How fast does the Program Monitor update when hitting arrow down to skip to the beginning of clips?
This. That's the main thing that's been stopping me from going out and getting one of these machines.
What machine have you ever used that did this to your preference? Just curious
Without proxies? None for me. But one can dream
@@ruffprophetproductions I worked at a post production house that used Avid and their server/storage solution and everything ran like butter. BUT... I guess that's not a fair comparison not only because of cost but also because all files handled by that system was optimised for editing. And I guess even this modest machine could be pretty smooth with the right video formats.
This is why I love Avid MC
Where have you been?
R3d files playback terribly in premiere pro on the m1 max. Davinci is a different story. These same files were awful on the 5600m 16inch. I think premiere needs to optimize this further for the m1s and hopefully it will be perfected right on time for the AE release.
Hey Max, I'm desperately looking for your system monitor add on from your menu bar! Which app is it?
Will it work better if I get it with 16gb unified memory?
I bought a 13” MacBook Pro, 8GB Ram, 512 internal drive(the cheapest one they have) for video playback. I decided to put Adobe suite on it. I runs amazingly fast.
hey Max - recently found your channel here! great stuff. i was a long time mac user all the way back to the iic machines - to the first brown macbook pros! adobe was running horribly on mac and i switched to amd pc to edit my videos. do you think the latest 16-inch macbook pro MAX can finally run premiere? i know it's not apple - its adobe's software. thank you!
best!
At this point, could it just be the code base of Premiere that’s keeping it from running faster?
at this point? that’s always been the point with adobe software.
and yet people blame the computer.
@@cystarkman I usually blame the media. Long GOP H.264/H.265 codec is truly satanic. I transcode to ProRes LT on ingest. Then the whole world of Premiere Pro is so much smoother, even on mid-range machines. Today's content creator, however, is not really down with that workflow. I think it's the way to go.
@@cystarkman Hows Adobe PP on the new MacBook Pro M1 Max Chip exporting 4K video?
@@richardmatthews7489 I am the wrong person to ask that. I have seen some reviews of Adobe P-Pro already and there have been some complaints prolly because Adobe still has a clunky code base. From what I read though it is better than it was. As Mission Creek Style said, it seems to be based on the codec you are using in Premiere.
@@cystarkman so what’s the solution around this?
Fcp handle all of this and even 8k like butter in M1 macs.... Its optimised like hell
Fcp all the way ❤❤
...and terrible magnetic timeline :D
@@asdafsdcvbxcz it can be disabled
Lol..this m1 fanboys are delusional
@@asdbef3667 😂😂😂 your thing will work like jet engine sound and heating shit while editing, enjoy kid
Dont worry its sucks even more in windows side...
Cant even play back 4k 60 smoothly in adobe pre....
I understand your feeling even fcp and resolve handles 8k like butter....
🤣🤣🤣 also you can render thing with ages....enjoy your dish.....
@@asdbef3667 enjoy eating ur snack while waiting 10 hours for ur file to export on ur pc :)
Hey Max, curious, did they update Media Encoder to support M1 as well? I was under the impression that Media Encoder still uses Rosetta. Can you verify if it’s now universal/m1? If it’s still Intel might explain why some of the export test results were so close to before. Curious if exporting right out of Premiere offers a different result.
Yes It was updated too, and I did test both side by side to make sure and the results were the same.
@@MaksimYuryev TV ki
Hi, do a test with After Effects
If you're on mac and need an editor, just use FCP?
Please can you update this for M1 Pro/Max? :) Adobe Premiere Pro & After Effects workflow proved impractical for us on M1 MacBook. :) Many thanks, Tom
dud you are missing the green/yellow ball indicator for dropped frames in the Program Window
Will the native premier pro work on Mac OS big sur or do I need to update my Mac first?
pls.. do expert in multi camera adobe premiere .. in 10 clips or more.
for both 4k and 1080p
As an Adobe user, I would move to Final Cut for this basic Air M1. But what about After Effects? - it is requested in many cases... Looking for a budget (but capable) video editing laptop and no matter how long I search about M1, I feel like going for an 8 core AMD processor.
Go for mac mini m1 with 16 gb ram you will not be disappointed. Thanks!
Hey can you suggest any HP laptops for photo editing under 1000$. Waiting for your response 😊
I understand that people always wanna complain about adobe products but it truly depends on what you need it for. I’m not surprised it isn’t compared to FCP. It probably never will. Which I get that. But premiere and after effects is so much more elite than FCP in anyway. If Apple can make these little improvements little by little I’m happy with it. Couple more minutes on my render and not super smooth playback is not a deal breaker to me. Use proxies and it will honestly be everything just as compared to FCP.
What do you use to see the CPU and GPU usage on the top menu bar?
Is MacBook Pro m1 good for premiere Pro and after effects?
How do you get CPU GPU readings in your top bar?
I don’t care if will exported 30min but how is perform editing
Color grading transitions effects
Me personally I would work with 32GPU that will work fine
What does Max mean whenhe uses the word ‘Kodak’?!?
curious about this as well because soon I'll be updating to a mac studio ...the intel chips and premiere are just ass together which is why I most likely will convert over to davinci and avoid paying adobe for life.
is it bad that the gpu runs at 100% most of the time?
Max I have iMac Pro 2017 , what should I upgrade to? I edit cinema camera footage . Need something with same pricing . $$8k range . Please suggest
If you can afford it and need it now, then Mac pro. If you can wait we should have a Apple Silicon Mac pro but it will take a while. I have a Mac Pro for sale for a great deal if you need one. Reach out at maksimyuryev@gmail.com
Quick question. Its off topic but it is possible to get the RGB number values of your under table lights?
I'm new to Macs, how do I see the CPU&GPU usage % on my status bar?
Hello
Thanks for your content! Have you tried to color grading with adobe and the M1? Because for me it doesn't work... Lumetri color does not work on my imac M1. When I move the sliders, nothing is applied on the image Can you help me? Please
Thanks a lot
Please test M1 Pro 10 core CPU, 16 core GPU, 32 GB Ram, 1 SSD Storage with 4K video editing in Premiere.
Ok but that's still better than what any other $1000usd i7 11th gen Windows laptop can do on Premiere right?
Hey Max! Can you please do this on a 16 GB MBP or iMac? That would be the most helpful! TYSM been waiting for this!!! 🎉
So, Premiere pro is slower, is expensive and not very stable. Why does it have such a big install base on Mac?
Workflow. In my office we have everyone working with Adobe whether you're an audio engineer, video editor, or gfx. It's just easier when there's an ecosystem.
Is there something similar on Mac? I'm not familiar with Mac-based NLE ecosystems.
@@professionalpotato4764
Good Point, Adobe has an very extensive CC suite
On Mac you have Pro Logic for audio, a very good product indeed, and Motion that is used to create and edit motion graphics, titling for video production and film production, and 2D and 3D compositing for visual effects.
I can imagine that if you are very deep in the Adobe Environment with all CC products you don't want to change that
Adobe is to the creative industry, what Microsoft Office is to the professional industry. They are both the standard so that everyone in the work space can easily share. It also helps that Adobe and Microsoft basically indoctrinate college students into using their products, even though there are alternatives available. They are the industry standard and also the industry drug that no one can break free from, simply because "everyone else is using it, so I have to use it too if I want to get anything done".
Premiere is garbage and I hate that I have to keep using it, but as a heavy After Effects user, the integration is key. I'm slowly moving over to Davinci, but I do have to admit that when it comes to adding in motion graphics to footage, After Effects and Premiere are the best combo. For pure editing of all different kinds of footage, Davinci destroys Premiere.
@@professionalpotato4764 Apple has Final Cut Pro for video, Logic Pro X for audio and Motion for VFX. But After Effects still better for VFX
looooooooooong time
So does it work or not? Somebody give me the 10 second answer.
Nice try, I’m sticking with Avid
what happened to Avid?
Bro you got to put like 1 hr worth footage on the device with cuts then see how it handles it, that’s more of a real world test
Ditching Premiere Pro was literally the best creative decision I ever made. I'm only a hobbyist and it was frustrating on a high end system so I can only imagine how angry professionals would feel.
What you use now?
@@zijielim4652 I only ditched it recently so I'm still on the trial of FCP. It's really fast but a little confusing at some things. Will give Davinci Resolve a go too, but FCP so far is going OK.
@@Squidy666 FCP is good, but I just don't like the Timeline interface which, for my personal preference, feels like a cheap editing software.
@@dy7296 Yeah I agree. I do like it, but it's hard for me to get used to. In PP I could add transitions so easy. In FCP I find myself having to troubleshoot them as sometimes a simple drag and drop doesn't work as well as I'd want. All in all though I only have minor gripes about it. Last night I used it to export a 10 hour video through Compresor and it was a little shy of 3 hours... in PP it would likely still be going this morning.
I could stomach the subscribe pay to play model, but eradicating my access to the numerous plug ins I had purchased was the end. I only edit on Resolve and Final Cut.
I'm done giving FCPx second chances to be honest. I have an M1 Air and STILL it beach balls, freezes and stutters when you get to a certain level of complexity on an edit. Sure, it's optimised and can play back single clips perfectly smoothly and export quickly, but if you're editing a documentary lets say, it gets messy so quickly and doesn't work. Audio options are also extremely limited, and you cannot use a multitrack mixer. Premiere annoys the hell out of me all the time, but I still don't see an alternative to making proxies and working in premiere for the time being. Resolve is nearly there, and definitely plays back better, I will try and do some full edits in it in the future. For now I can see why the TV and film industry still edit in Avid or Premiere and grades in Resolve. FCPx drives me insane.
Just to add to my whining...the base model M1 Air is still faster in Premiere than my 2017 i5 iMac with 8GB radeon pro and 40GB ram.
@@matadormartin Apparently the M1 is the best of Apple, but it is still insufficient, at the moment Windows is better for true pro editing work, another thing is to make small editions of low complexity, but for dense work Windows is still the best platform for value for money , or a very very expensive mac pro
Moral of the story, change to Resolve 17 or FCPX if you can
Its been about time! Why is Adobe so slow at converting their software?
I hope native After Effects comes soon.
Shut up
They do everything custom
It's because the RAM is too low. 8GB isn't enough, even for the M1 chip. You need at least 16GB for decent 4K playback.
Cannot wait for Affinity to drop their own video editing suite so we can finally escape Adobe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Davinci Results 😚
Adobe's software products are generally very generic at the code level for cross-platform reason I do not expect they have the resource or will power to do any sort of deep optimization for any specific platform. Premiere Pro doesn't even run smooth on a low and mid end PCs. And not to mention always buggy as hell. Yes it is very feature-rich compared to Final Cut but if the app is unstable what's the point? It's like a car with tons of fancy gadgets built-in but the car itself dies on the road all the time.
you should have not change the channels pic
I personally don’t understand why anyone still saddles themselves with Premier.
What's the app used to measure the CPU and GPU usage on the M1 used on the video?
Any idea anyone?
Istats menu
@fabian salvatierra it is Performance Overlay in Premiere Pro, just press control shift f11 click out of premiere pro and click on it again
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does anyone know how he put up the gpu and cpu usage on the top of the screen?
iStatmenu is the name of the software
Ставь лайк, кто тоже запутался в Максах. Я был уверен, что это один человек, а их как минимум двое!
I am really interested in the M1 Macs, but as a primarily daily Adobe user for work, I'm glad I didn't buy one based on the hype alone.
I just did a test on my GTX1070 Max-Q, i7-8750H Razer Blade 15 and with a 5 minute 8bit H.264 export (with several Lumetri effects applied) it exported with the Vimeo 2160P 4K Ultra HD preset in just 2 minutes 32 seconds.
So, I don't think I'll be switching back to Mac any time soon.
I wouldn't pay for a subscription to find out. I use Final Cut Pro
Premiere is now as optimized on M1 as it is on Intel, which isn't saying much lol
Davinci Resolve is phenomenal on M1 Macs. Has been since Day 1. 🤷🏻♂️
Can you provide the free link 🥺
@@amitkumar1.047
www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/
Scroll down to the software section. It's free. The free version comes with all of the normal video editing stuff.
The Studio version, which includes Fusion, is $300, one-time. But most people don't need Fusion. The Studio version also comes free with almost any of the hardware they sell, including the speed editor.
@@grateful4068 ok thanks bro ♥️
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