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  • @dominodevelopment
    @dominodevelopment Місяць тому +3

    Took me 10 seconds to subscribe. 😂 Great video!

  • @infiernohermoso3469
    @infiernohermoso3469 2 роки тому +96

    That was by far the most complete information on anything ever and yet was so simple and to the point. If teachers could teach like that, every single students would learn and reach their potential

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому +5

      My dear... we need to speak! Helping the younger generation has become one of my life goals, hence I need to connect with engaged teacher like you. If you feel like having a chat, send me a mail on ogirard [at] trainyourposture.com

  • @ShahriarFarkhan
    @ShahriarFarkhan Рік тому +15

    Thank you for explaining this in detail. I've never seen the physiological rational behind the placement and angles of one's hands. Seriously, the best explanation I've seen on UA-cam

  • @ben-uy1ud
    @ben-uy1ud 3 роки тому +22

    Excellently explained, that is how a review should be. Instead of showing some random wrist rests, you very well explained the science behind and the to dos for one to make an informed decision. Well done again!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you so much!! You know, the market of products is changing so fast that reviewing single items is often a lost cause: teach a man how to fish rather than give him a fish 😅

    • @ben-uy1ud
      @ben-uy1ud 3 роки тому

      @@OlivierGirard very well said !

  • @419chris419
    @419chris419 3 роки тому +67

    Underrated video.
    Thank you very very much!
    I've been using wrist rests wrong and my carpal tunnel had been worse, thanks for helping me correct this!

  • @Alex-bm9nb
    @Alex-bm9nb 2 роки тому +6

    concise explanation. I watched quite a few videos but no one mentions how the arm/wrist are supposed to move like u did in this video. thank you.

  • @Elebanitez
    @Elebanitez 2 роки тому +7

    Amazing video. I have recently been having ulnar pains and this just explains everything I've been doing wrong and helped me to see why a wrist rest won't magically solve the problem. I need to stop making ulnar movements and use my elbows and arms more.
    I am very grateful. Thank you.

  • @horacinis
    @horacinis 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video! It was really helpful and extremely well explained!!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for appreciating the effort!! There are a few hundred of hours behind this channel indeed 😅

  • @veronicasiu
    @veronicasiu Рік тому +9

    Best explanation on UA-cam!

  • @frd5868
    @frd5868 Рік тому +1

    Im actually in a market for a wrist rest myself but keep finding myself unsure if i ever need one. This video definitely answer my question. Thanks for the explanation!

  • @MandyNyunyu
    @MandyNyunyu 3 роки тому +32

    Really helpful video! Helped in my decision to get a wrist rest. Explained it well and in simple terms. Thank you 😁

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +3

      This is great feedback, thanks a lot Mandy!

  • @fuwahimevt
    @fuwahimevt 3 роки тому +10

    Very useful video, thank you. I was looking into a wrist rest but I think i'm good without one.

  • @elevatorface
    @elevatorface Рік тому +2

    Fascinating and very helpful, ty Olivier! My partner does the floating wrist and it looks so odd to me. He also thinks it's strange but it is what suits him. Now we know I'm the one using the wrist rest wrong. I have muscle atrophy and it is hard to lift my wrists so I do rest on the wrist rest to the point my palms get a dry patch. But I've gotten stronger now so I want to try focusing on the movement of my whole arms, not fixing myself into one spot. I hope more ppl find this video. Very life changing indeed!

  • @EverythingHenry
    @EverythingHenry 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks, just built a pc using a RK61 keyboard and my wrists are bent upwards quite a lot. Perfect information

  • @nenes24
    @nenes24 2 роки тому +3

    glide and fly on it! thank you so much, i've been having a lot of wrist pain lately and this video helped me decide to buy an extremal keyboard, so it gets easier while im typing and i can practice better habits!

  • @raiyanreza9764
    @raiyanreza9764 3 роки тому +12

    I love your unbiased explanation, feels so genuine!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, Raiyan! Many tell me that I have a no BS channel, and that's really the type of feedback I love :)!

  • @JvFan-rx5fl
    @JvFan-rx5fl 3 роки тому +6

    i really thought wrist rest were a must. thank you for this information!

  • @SleeperHonda
    @SleeperHonda Рік тому +2

    Ive got an Acrylic Keyboard Wrist Rest that allows me to slide around a bit. Killer info!

  • @GT-tj1qg
    @GT-tj1qg Рік тому +4

    Brilliant video. There is not enough accurate and well-explained information these days

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Рік тому +1

      That's a nice compliment, thank you :) !

  • @CsTruth
    @CsTruth 2 роки тому +4

    I just bought a wrist rest and its good to know!
    Short and informative video 💪

  • @lilmaskreti
    @lilmaskreti Рік тому

    i think you will be saving my left wrist. ive had pain shooting up my arm and i think it's causing me to be very tense so the tension goes up to my neck it feels like... i bought something to stabalize it while i sleep and i bought wrist rests and when it came to use it (like right now) i had no idea how. thank you, thank you so much !!!

  • @yasemindemir9038
    @yasemindemir9038 Рік тому

    Thanks a lot for short and effective explanations!

  • @thelongboarddude95
    @thelongboarddude95 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic. Thanks so much for the explanation!

  • @Vivinnn_
    @Vivinnn_ 5 місяців тому

    That's really great info, thanks!

  • @Hexen525
    @Hexen525 Рік тому +1

    Awesome explanation! Answered my questions perfectly! Although, I didn't care for how LOUD the volume got at the end of the clip. My wife is sleeping, she wouldn't like getting woken up to that 😁

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Рік тому

      My apologies to your wife!!! Tell her to blame it on my learning curve 😂!

  • @progress1482
    @progress1482 3 роки тому +1

    Best explanation. Thanks for that idea!👍

  • @solomanjain915
    @solomanjain915 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the information

  • @michaelmonstar4276
    @michaelmonstar4276 Рік тому

    Damn, this is a fantastic explanation in general. - I have a horrible habit of leaning into my wrists, even when using the mouse. - I don't know why... I know I do it, but I keep doing it. - I guess it's because I lean forward, despite having a very good chair. - I need to lean back more and not forward and use my arms and wrists as support.

  • @pride21jim
    @pride21jim 3 роки тому +1

    That was excellent in every way thank you.

  • @IrrationalDelusion
    @IrrationalDelusion 3 роки тому +1

    1:20 is it only with typing when fingers are moved with wrist or mouse too? I feel extremely well for long hours exactly using this wrist-only moves for mouse

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the detailed video!

  • @xinyicai6241
    @xinyicai6241 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this clear explanation!!

  • @TheRcCrazyFan
    @TheRcCrazyFan 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks. Very helpful. Subscribed

  • @budivoogt491
    @budivoogt491 Рік тому

    This was very helpful! I'm struggling to define the right keyboard for a MacBook, using the Magic Keyboard. Finding that for long programming sessions, my wrists start hurting. The cues of moving your elbows and keeping your wrists straight are good ones. I'm so habituated to resting my wrists on the table however that it's going to take some practice to integrate your tips.

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Рік тому

      In the meantime, try and integrate the upper body reset in your daily routine... aim at once per hour: ua-cam.com/video/LdDnb3Miwss/v-deo.html 😀

  • @amigoal1254
    @amigoal1254 2 роки тому +1

    good video, thank you , very informative

  • @xBeyondMystery
    @xBeyondMystery 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much, this was very useful :)

  • @Viewer765
    @Viewer765 3 місяці тому

    What about mouse for apple Magic Mouse 2

  • @MidnightGeekSS
    @MidnightGeekSS 3 роки тому +5

    If you are likely to misuse the wrist rest is it worth having? I have always used them as a place to rest even while typing and am debating if I should eliminate them all together.

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +2

      To be very honest... I don't use a wrist rest anymore :)

  • @flywithoutwingss
    @flywithoutwingss 3 роки тому +1

    Great info.

  • @nickgoogle4525
    @nickgoogle4525 Рік тому

    Great explanation. One important point in my experience is the distance at which you place the keyboard. When you place the keyboard very close to the edge of the table (I keep mine as close as possible) you do not have to hold your forearm up, which is tiring and IMO the reason why many rest their wrists while typing. So I think wrist rests are in that sense bad that they force you to push the keyboard farther away from you and thus increasing the work to hold the forearm up, thus in the end then "needing" the wrist rest, but just because you added the extra distance through the wrist rest.
    So I think best is to have a keyboard with no wrist rest. One exception would be _if_ there would be a rest attached to the keyboard, which could float (extend) from the table a bit and thus allowing to use the rest as such, only when typing is paused.
    What are your thoughts on this analysis/ experience from me?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Рік тому +1

      You're right, Nick: you analysis matches what I say in this video: ua-cam.com/video/a7qhAgXgQT0/v-deo.html. There are maybe some more parameters to consider, though:
      - if you have a thick keyboard, a wrist rest might be more useful than if you have a flat one
      - if you don't hold your arms on your lats, you may feel that they hang in the air: ua-cam.com/video/uZqVPBeOhzA/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/uZqVPBeOhzA/v-deo.html

    • @nickgoogle4525
      @nickgoogle4525 Рік тому

      @@OlivierGirard Thank you so much for the detailed and helpful answer. :-D Also the videos you have linked are really very insightful! Much appreciated! 🙂

  • @bchan6539
    @bchan6539 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @shuramixu
    @shuramixu 17 днів тому

    A question, I have a split keyboard, it has an adjustable support up to an angle of 20 degrees diagonally and my hand when playing is also at an angle of 20 degrees, by having my hand at an angle of 20 degrees, as if I were going to shake someone's hand, my wrist or carpal tunnel would rest while I type the buttons.I use a Logitech MX Ergo mouse and I have no pain since I use it at a 20 degree position.

  • @courage936
    @courage936 2 роки тому

    wonderful video

  • @ItsMariquel
    @ItsMariquel 3 роки тому

    Looks like I don't need one. Thank you so much for this video, Olivier!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +1

      See... I can even spare you cash :) !! You're very welcome, dear

    • @ItsMariquel
      @ItsMariquel 3 роки тому

      @@OlivierGirard you sure did😊

  • @andreslfr
    @andreslfr 3 роки тому

    You're amazing! thanks for this knowledge.

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +1

      That’s very kind of you, thank you!

  • @Squanto22
    @Squanto22 2 роки тому

    outro music really startled me haha. good video though

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      it's meant to be a wake-up call 😂... thanks for the feedback!

  • @SunsetNova
    @SunsetNova 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this

  • @reaperhammer
    @reaperhammer Рік тому

    Good video sir

  • @justinekayepulmones1770
    @justinekayepulmones1770 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this. I was planning to buy this but then I realized I don’t need it hehe

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому

      Yeah, that’s how you spare money ;) !!!

  • @ipengsmart
    @ipengsmart 3 роки тому

    well, i almost spent 20 dollar for wrist rest where i dont need it. Thanks Man. Really appreciate

  • @Nestor88
    @Nestor88 2 роки тому

    wondering about those wooden wrist rest ie: (Glorios wooden wrist rest ) i think they are same as not having but i might be wrong

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      well… it’s true that if you use them as wrist RESTS, they might cause excessive pressure on sensitive tissues. If you use them as wrists LIMITS, i.e. just to float on top of them, why not. But really, I don’t see the point of these things vs. their padded equivalents. I had never seen them: thanks for pointing them out!

  • @4.5d
    @4.5d Рік тому

    Good Video

  • @oooo0O0oooo
    @oooo0O0oooo Рік тому

    Thanks ❤

  • @---ct5tm
    @---ct5tm 3 роки тому +2

    Is it okay to rest your palms on that palm rests, while not typing?

  • @sachabon2634
    @sachabon2634 3 роки тому

    Merci pour les infos, hyper utile

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому

      Avec plaisir :) Si vous avez d'autres thématiques importantes pour vous, n'hésitez pas à me le dire!!

  • @zkdr6278
    @zkdr6278 2 роки тому

    I have a thicker keyboard and I use the wrist wrest to provide support for my arm. The weight of each arm is being supported by the bottom part of the palms, to keep my wrists from being compressed. Is this okay?
    Also, my arms come at the keyboard at an angle, like this: / \. I figured it would be best if they came at it like this: | |. But my shoulders are too wide, so I tried a split keyboard by kenesis, and it was completely flat and didn't let you angle it, so it was very uncomfortable.

  • @liangggg
    @liangggg Рік тому

    What about mouse rest? Is it the same condition where your wrist should be floating instead of being stationary on one location? Also, a mouse rest is only that small and is fixed location.. is it recommended to get it then?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Рік тому

      Indeed, the wrist should be floating as well. And the size may be a limiting factor indeed. Plus, they aren't appropriate if you use a vertical mouse. Hence, I think it's better to have a vertical mouse but no mouse wrist rest.

  • @Fra00324
    @Fra00324 3 місяці тому

    Hello, so would you recommend Logitech mx palm rest for low Logitech keyboard or not worth it?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 місяці тому

      I don't think it's really worth it... may feel nice, but it won't correct wrist extension so much.

  • @jamesa4958
    @jamesa4958 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @hzqqqqqq
    @hzqqqqqq 3 роки тому

    thank you for this video

  • @agfdsa123
    @agfdsa123 2 роки тому

    I tried those mouse pads with straight lined rear raised gel, after pc gaming with it ~3 hrs my lower wrist still hurts about same, my this type don't work.

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      Honestly, I don’t think any wrist can sustain 3 continuous hours using a mouse, mate. Is there any way you could take more frequent breaks?

  • @davidlatty
    @davidlatty 3 роки тому

    good stuff

  • @razvanandrei2671
    @razvanandrei2671 3 роки тому +2

    Hi @Oivier! What would you recommend for long term usage from an ergonomic point of view for a programmer(not typing as much as professional translator or writer), an ergonomic but full size keyboard(like K860 you showed) or a TKL(compact without numpad)? Thank you in advance!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +6

      Hey mate! Have a look at this other video on how to choose an ergonomic input device: ua-cam.com/video/N3M4alrqy60/v-deo.html. If you don't use numbers too much, I'd definitely go for a compact keyboard (I use Logitech K380) because it allows you to keep the mouse closer to the midline of your body, which will reduce neck strain. Makes sense?

    • @razvanandrei2671
      @razvanandrei2671 3 роки тому

      @@OlivierGirard yes, thanks a lot.

  • @piotrnajda3000
    @piotrnajda3000 2 роки тому

    Hi Olivier, provided my elbow height is barely scratching the desk (my thighs are snug up against it), is it fine to rest my palms alone on the desk as I type and mouse, since I don't have neither down or up wrist extension? Having watched some of your different tutorials, it seems like resting even part of my forearms on the desk is a no-go in the long run. Floating my hands takes practice, I suppose. Thanks!

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      Hey Piotr :) Sorry for a very late reply! I'm not too sure, but I think your desk is quite thick, right (or there's a thick reinforcement)?
      Reg. forearms: there's a difference between contact and pressure: your forearms can be on the desk as long as they have their full mobility, which is difficult to keep for prolonged periods. Check out this full explanation and let me know if it makes sense: ua-cam.com/video/uZqVPBeOhzA/v-deo.html 😅

  • @Camrographer
    @Camrographer 2 роки тому

    Is there a solution for those which spend many hours at the computer and tend to fatigue by supporting their arms for extended periods?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      Have a look at this video on armrests: I think you'll get quite some answers out of it ua-cam.com/video/uZqVPBeOhzA/v-deo.html 😉

  • @lukeschaeffer2551
    @lukeschaeffer2551 2 роки тому

    The concept of floating on the wrist rest is great for people using the computer for a few hours, but not a solution for someone who uses it 8-16 hours a day for work. It's kind of amazing that no product has nailed this yet. They'll run a distraction for a bit, know what I mean, with something like a vertical mouse. They''ll be effective for the people who only use a comp for a few hours a day, but anyone that uses the comp for long hours learns within the first day or two that a vertical mouse creates a whole new type of pain because you now have to create back pressure with your thumb. Additionally, you lose so much precision using a vertical mouse which makes it almost useless for CAD drawing, charting markups, detailed graphic design, etc., so you end up alternating between reg and vert mouse, which triggers both injuries and makes them both worse as a whole, lol.

  • @iamtheone9242
    @iamtheone9242 3 роки тому +1

    What are your opinions on memory foam pillows im using one right now it has a shape for the neck curved inward is this good?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому +3

      As often, it depends 🤣... memory foam is super comfortable but it tends to soften when warm. For example, I have on my webshop a lumbar support made of this material, which people love. But when you sit, you shouldn't sit for 1hr in a row. Hence, you should check that you have the same quality of neck support after a few hours.
      The other thing is that your pillow is shaped. In a way, it limits the mobility of your neck. If you're a quiet sleeper and you feel comfortable in the position offered by the pillow, great. But I'm not quiet and I keep turning the pillow to rest on the cold side of it. So for me, using an asymmetric pillow is very uncomfortable.
      Hence, it depends means in this case that I have nothing against it per se if you love it, but that I advise people to test before they buy. And as far as pillows are concerned, it's often not easy to test for long enough: there's always a part of a risk. But what's sure is that you NEED a pillow that makes you feel comfortable: it's essential to your sleep quality.
      Makes sense?

  • @EmreY25
    @EmreY25 2 роки тому

    what's the ideal distance between your body and the keyboard. Like should your arms somewhat extend when you type or be more tucked in.

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      Everything is on my channel, dear 😂: have a look at this one ua-cam.com/video/DCWI0v5gx-w/v-deo.html

  • @keisaboru1155
    @keisaboru1155 2 роки тому

    okay imma be a floating man for now on ;D thx bro .

  • @MangakaDay
    @MangakaDay 2 роки тому

    Merci beaucoup pour la video!!! =D

  • @cur1ousss2047
    @cur1ousss2047 2 роки тому

    Thanks a lot 💪😎👍🛐

  • @julietr8786
    @julietr8786 2 роки тому

    Hey, is there any difference with mouse wrist rests?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      Yep... you shouldn't use one with a vertical mouse: it causes lateral wrist deviation!

  • @OWK000
    @OWK000 3 роки тому

    I thought wrist rests were just for people whose finger nails are long, and maybe acryclic and that's just how they type. Wrist rest just really get in the way for me, but I type more like a pianist with upright curled fingers and really short nails and that's just natural for me. I never get carpal tunnel but I do get sore hands from vaccine induced arthritis if I type too much.

  • @drobostoko5714
    @drobostoko5714 3 роки тому

    Me and you should invent the sliding wrist rest

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому

      someone has been faster than us : www.amazon.ae/Reloot-DeltaHub-Ergonomic-Physician-Designed/dp/B08KCQK7JD :) !! But after testing, I found it so-so... maybe we can make it better!!

    • @dannykitzen3907
      @dannykitzen3907 3 роки тому

      @@OlivierGirard Have you had a chance to try the version 2 as well? People say it's been vastly improved. I'm wondering if it would be nice to have one for my left hand and one for my right hand (to switch between mouse and keyboard) instead of a rectangular static wrist rest for the keyboard. What do you think?

  • @WolfQueenLydia
    @WolfQueenLydia 3 роки тому

    My chair is lower than my desk, and my keyboard is quite tall so i need a wrist rest to reach the keys properly for my small hands. xD

  • @VanceMaichin
    @VanceMaichin 3 роки тому

    I just use a bunched up cloth for a wrist rest

  • @goghman
    @goghman 3 роки тому

    Well shirlock how do gamers glide? Our wrists are still when using “wsad” for hours

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому

      I know... that's because you set a super high velocity on the mouse. But most people can't master this, esp. on office tasks. And... you won't find any video on my channel saying that gamers don't / won't ever have pain ;)

  • @Cerbyo
    @Cerbyo Місяць тому

    youtube keeps deleting any question i ask...I've tried 3x to fit the censor I giveup.

    • @Cerbyo
      @Cerbyo Місяць тому

      now that i posted something worthless it lets it exist...sad

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  Місяць тому

      send me a mail if your question lies close to your heart :) : info@oliviergirard.ch. Mention this comment, because I get too many requests and I need to be a bit selective (unfortunately!!!)

  • @nykz2358
    @nykz2358 3 роки тому

    Thank youu

  • @wellanlewis4414
    @wellanlewis4414 3 роки тому

    I like your video. Can i refer it to one of my friend who has a chiropractic directory?

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  3 роки тому

      Of course dear, with great pleasure - and many thanks!!

  • @Kantenschiesser
    @Kantenschiesser 2 роки тому

    my wrist needs to rest on the table while playing games. so i guess i need a wrist rest

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      maybe... but you also surely need frequent breaks 😉

  • @naditos
    @naditos 7 місяців тому

    G.O.A.T

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  7 місяців тому +1

      It took me time to understand what this means... I initially thought of the animal 😂. I'm definitely getting old...

    • @SapiaNt0mata
      @SapiaNt0mata 4 місяці тому

      @@OlivierGirard i use a wrist rest on my forearm for the hand that use the mouse, but i move the hand from the elbow and the sideways movement of the wrist is very minimal. it's not moving at angles like 45 degrees. is this ok or should i remove the wrist rest from the forearm? another question: is the wrist rest on the forearm causing an issue? even without the wrist rest on the forearm, my palm is floating when i hold the mouse so i can remove the wrist rest from the forearm.
      you can use google when you see something like G.O.A.T. this is what i do.

  • @topazlake85
    @topazlake85 Рік тому

    I came to the same conclusion opting not to buy a wrist rest support

  • @siddharthgulati7011
    @siddharthgulati7011 2 роки тому

    Thinking of leaving this computer job i have cervical back pain wrist pain

    • @OlivierGirard
      @OlivierGirard  2 роки тому

      I think it would be cheaper for you to first consider my short posture program: give it 24 days and it will always be time to decide! www.trainyourposture.com/onlineprograms.html

  • @PaoloAlghisi
    @PaoloAlghisi 2 роки тому

    they should call it "wrist lift" not "wrist rest" so there will be no misunderstanding, but also no sales :D