The New-Age Larry Bird: The Rise of Nikola Jokic in the NBA
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- Опубліковано 14 бер 2023
- The New-Age Larry Bird: The Rise of Nikola Jokic in the NBA
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jokic, the white Larry Bird.
Lol
This is brilliant 😂
😂
This is just dumb. You think there’s some kind of profundity to it, but there’s really none at all.
@@fezzik7619 I bet you're a blast at parties...
Thank you for this video. Jokic is no doubt the closest thing ever to another Larry Bird. Jokic makes a lot of his plays without being the primary ball handler, which involves lots of touch passes and back door plays, something Bird was known for. Bird would come off screens or set himself in the post to either shoot or make pin point passes down low or to the perimeter, which what Jokic also does in near similar fashion. Jokic just needs an NBA ring and the comparison will more or less become justifiable.
You hit the point,i enjoy the video.
Joker is true basketball savant,future HOF.
the greatest turnaround of a teams record is often overlooked but shows the impact that bird brought with him
Thanks for the story on Jokic and hopefully he will have that championship this year cuz he has his guys back. From a loyal Nuggets fan.
*NIkola is NIkola Jokić!*
*Unique in this era of basketball, simple the best!*
Wemby is better
@@dkdebest NOPE -_-
Well said. He actually made me start watching the NBA again.
Imagine if he added sprinting up and down the court and weightlifting to his game. Unbelievable
He does sprint. That's as fast as he can go.
@@joemarshall4226 hes a blob.
Its safe to say that these two are the smartest/Highest basketball IQs of all time. They have to, because they are unable to bolt past you or jump over you.
You dont even necessarily need the advanced stats to compare the two, honestly.
Player A:
26/10/7, 1.8 steals, 0.9 blocks, 50/39/89 shooting.
Player B:
26/12/9, 1.3 steals, 0.7 blocks, 59/37/83 shooting.
That's remarkably similar production. Player A is Bird's 3 straight MVP seasons averaged. Player B is Jokic's last 3 seasons averaged.
Pleasure to watch this video. Nice edits. Good information. I hope the Joker can accomplish this. Go Kings!!!
That was great my friend, RESPECT!!!
Pre knee injury / NBA Sabonis Sr. may be an even closer comparison.
I see Bird as a taller Luka since they are both primary face up wings that operate from the 'triple threat' position primarily, but can post up too. Also, I don't think either one has ever set a pick.
The back to the basket game, dribble hand off / pick setting, passing from the high post, with the ability to step outside the arc that are staples of Jokic's offensive bag were also how the young Sabonis played.
Where there is a huge similarity with Larry Bird is the way both weaponize the full court outlet pass after both makes and misses.
I'm with you on that
If Bird didn't have a great team around him, the result is Luka id say. If Luka got picked with a loaded team on the way soon. He might make the playoffs the same way Bird would. If you put him say on Denver. It would be finals year after year and they'd have 2 #1 options.
I been saying the same thing now all year
Totally agree
I love watching this vids
Facts
Luka still comparable to LB, great vid and thank you YounGala! Cheers
Bird was an outlier because no one else played like him. And no one else has played like him since he retired. Jokic may be somewhat comparable because like it says in this video, he plays fundamental basketball. But no on has had the court awareness like Bird. He knew where every player was on the court and he had an almost future vision of where the ball was going. There have been many great players but no one saw the court the way Bird did.
Agreed' Jokic is Special and he has 12 more yrs 2 play'
probably the best assist man. great champion.
"he makes me smile"
When Bird won his 3rd, it was asked whether he could supplant the 3 all time big men, Wilt, Bill and Kareem as the greatest of all time. It was the first time I heard anyone talk about the greatest. He retired with 3 MVPs 3 titles, 5 conference championships and 9 all league first team selections and finished in the top 3 in the MVP race 8 times.
When Jordan retired the first time, he had 3 MVPs, 3 titles, and 3 conference championships, and 8 all league first team selections and 7 top 3 MVP finishes.
Magic by the way won 3 MVPs, 5 titles, 8 conference championships, 9 all league first team selections and 9 top 3 MVPs.
So Bird and Magic both matched Jordan in titles and MVPs, but had 2 and 5 more conference championships and 1 more all league first team and 1 and 2 more top 3 MVP finishes when MJ retired the first time.
It would be much easier to argue for Magic or Bird who both had their careers shortened than for Jordan prior to Jordan's return. I'd argue that Lebron probably surpassed Jordan's first NBA run at least by the time he won his title in Cleveland as well. At that point he had 3 titles, 4 MVPs, 7 conference championships, 10 all league first teams and 9 top 3 MVP finishes.
If we add up total titles, conference titles, MVP top 3s, MVPs and all league first team selections, counting just Jordan's first run, and just Lebron through his win in Cleveland we get (final totals in parentheses):
Magic: 34
Lebron: 33 (42)
Bird: 28
M.J. 24 (35)
Just pointing out that M.J. made his goat case in his second run. Well deserved, but what if?
They are very different, Jokic is playing in a game with huge space and is playing different position.
He dosen't himself too seriously. It just a job that he enjoys. I think he loves horses than basketball but horses dont pay the bills.
Basketball is work and horses hobby
He got his basic stamina and strength from Serbia and Serbians have the genes of viking that's why they're naturaly athletic.
Nikola keeps improving! He doesn't move as well without the ball but he's sort of a floating center, and he keeps learning!!!
As for Bird, people not considering him for the top 5 are a bit odd. Consider Bird received 60% of the MVP votes in the 80's. A decade with Kareem, Moses, Magic, ...
79-80 finished 4th
80-81-finished 2nd
81-82 finished 2nd
82-83 finished 2nd
83-84 finished 1st
84-85 finished 1st
85-86 finished 1st
86-87 finished 3rd
87-88 finished 2nd
88-89 n/a only played 6 games
89-90 finished 10th
@YounGala I've only recently got into the NBA and been watching a lot of history stuff and I think this video is pretty spot on.
I would like your take on one question though, as i feel like it might have got brushed over in the video. How is Jokic in the clutch? As it is something I heard a lot of praise on Bird for and I'm wondering how Jokic matches up.
Jokic needs to win a title in order to get more respect!
Jokic is a lot like Bird in his shooting, passing and team leadership. But he can also play the low post just like Kevin McHale, and can bully his way to the basket like Shaq.
So did Bird. Remember bird got his defensive and offensive rebounds against M.Malone, Barkley, Rodman, Kareem, Hakeem,Ewing, ...yeah different now right? It was tougher. Plus no blood no foul rules. It's not nostalgia bias it's visibly different in my mind..
They're both great players. Similar styles, different personalities, but great team leaders and high tennis IQs. @@nathanc30
No one puts him in top 5? Man he’s legit top 5, even top 3.
Bird nah def a top player but not in top 5 top 15
When were you born jonathunk?
@jonathank786 larry is def top 10 I got him behind kobe, magic 4 kobe 5 larry 6 Duncan 7 curry 8 shaq 9 and wilt 10 or Hakeem 10 or Giannis 10
Damn right for many he's Uno #1 and he has a very arguable case to be made ,and that group is what I refer to as the herd of GOATS , jabbar ,Magic ,West, Robertson , Dr.J ,Bird , Wilt Russell, Kobe, Shaq , LeBron, I'm sure a couple of other names could be put there maybe Hakeem he was spectacular, but the class above the highest class, the elite of elite,
@@jonathank786 Nikola jokic & dirk nowitzki & LeBron james each would've scored 50s points against Larry bird especially broken back Larry bird
He's A Lot Like Larry Bird actually
3:05 That's me. No social media. I have no idea who Jokic is.
I saw bird his entire career and Jordans bulls years living in Chicago. Jordan was a better athlete. But bird had the touch and smarts.
There will be never be another bird - Magic Johnson. Big bird
Larry Bird is the real GOAT !
And there will never , ever
be another Larry Bird !
Goat?
@@cristianostroud
… stands for greatest
of all time !
according to the current statistics, Nikola Jokic is better, what are you talking about, son, at the age of 28, he broke all the statistics and set new records that were held by the greatest in this sport, there is no need for jealousy, sports greetings
@@nemanjatrifunovic1111 .. lol
Jokic not even in the NBAs
top 75 players yet ! Let’s
get some hardware before
comparing him to legends !
You kids need to do research
on the players your talking
about ! Jeeezzz
@@rgreen1107 funny
20 10 6. Those career numbers only belong to Bird and Jokic.
Joker has 1 THING thats most like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan - THE WILL TO WIN.
Moving slower actually allows him to process more around him.
Joker is a combination of Luka and bird
Mchale/Bird
Yes he is bro
I would have thought Wilt was the first point centre tho
N-Bay player of the world!
Bird is not the GOAT, he is the Legend. Let all the others fight over 2nd best. Jokic is the first player I have seen come close to Bird, the rest we shall see in the next 5 years.
He never won two Championships in a row. During that time it took a TEAM to win, especially with all the great passing.
unfortunately the nba doesnt want him to win another mvp even though he deserves it
you are right- he has Bird in his bones, but also the footwork of McHale, passing of Sabonis and Walton. To me Jokic seems like untapped potential- if he really worked on the 3 he could shoot a lot better than he does. But it's not what the team needs all the time- ANOTHER BIRD TRAIT- get the ball humming INSIDE and then find the wide open outside guys.
Luka is the Son of Bird and Magic if they'd had one
Bird banged harder than even jokic.. Remember bird got his defensive and offensive rebounds against M.Malone, Barkley, Rodman, Kareem, Hakeem,Ewing, ...yeah different now right? It was tougher. Plus no blood no foul rules. It's not nostalgia bias it's visibly different in my mind.
All points, rebounds and assists stats would be lower for jokic. All while ffree throw attempts going up because of foul whistles now.
Y'all think Jokic can be as good as he is now vs the old school players like Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Yao Ming, Amare Stoudemire, Jermaine Oneal, Shaquille Oneal, Ben Wallace, Chris Webber, and Raheed Wallace.
Jokic obviously student of the game and looks lot like the "legend c
Jokic should have won three straight. At least he won in the finals but mvp should have been his.
If you were unfortunate enough to waste your time watching the allstar game jokic was the second from last man picked which was already a bad start because he is the best player in the league
"old school" Ahaha. It's wonderful the nba players dicorver how to play basket ball 30 years later.
We play this kind in europe for decades 😂
I watch a lot of Dever basketball and I sometimes wonder watching Jokic what Arvydas Sabonis could’ve been if he’d made it to the league before he was washed up. Sabonis was a bit bigger with a similar skill set.
Unrelated, I’m a Sixers fan currently watching Embiid do grown man things to the Cavs and if you don’t think he’s the MVP the way he’s been playing recently, you’re high.
Embiid is great but the numbers and stats that, as far as I know, they use to determine regular season MVP heavily favor Jokic. His numbers were similarly above everyone else the last two years. So I can see why he's currently favored for another MVP. Here's a video that does a good job showing these numbers.
ua-cam.com/video/Nd0A9XoI9n4/v-deo.html
Sabonis would be the closest thing to Bill Laimbeer if he got to play earlier. Maybe Jokic as well.
Jokic is both Bird and Magic but his biggest challenge is beating rigged games.
Nahhhhh he reminds me more of Trailblazers Arvadas Sabonis cause Arvadas was doing this before jokic
Sabonis did what Jokic does hahahaha,Sabonis was a great player, but he didn't do 5% of what Jokic already did.
He got robbed of the MVP. His playoff run showed whe really deserved it.
I love jokic and he has a cerebral bird-like game. However Larry was a better athlete than people give him credit for and he played all over the court. It's hard to compare a small forward and a center. As for Luca, Luca is just as good a scorer as Bird if not better, watch tapes of both and you'll see the huge difference between them. Bird was a headier player who got more rebounds more steals and affected the game all over the court. Luca only starts playing when he crosses half-court with the ball. That's why Luca despite his great offensive skills is not even close to winning a championship and probably never will win a championship
Bird had a back injury in the mid eighties that really slowed him down. The Celts became strictly a half court team.
@@acornsucks2111 that back injury didn't start affecting him until the late 1980s the Celtics were always primarily a half court team but they could run when they wanted and they did.
Just more proof that wrecks the opinions of dopes who say Bird couldn't play in today's game, it's quite the opposite he would be very difficult to stop
Jokic got robbed this year for MVP. It should've been 3 straight for him
Fwiw magic is same player as bird. They was same size.neither one was hugh flyer .both controlled the game and went at their pace. Magic was more of a passer and Bird more of a scorer but same exact body type
Nope that's just media story telling. They are the same caliber of player just different. Magic isn't the offensive or defensive threat that bird was overall. Magic didn't have jumper of say a Jordan or a Bird. He was a pure PG that simply grew to be 6'9". Bird is a scorer that looked for the pass alot more than most scorers.
I have watched Bird play and was his fan. Larry Bird is far better than Jokic. The only edge Jokic has is height advantage. If not for his early injuries, Bird would most likely dominate the entire NBA for years.
I was reading his book and couldn't fathom that his back hurt that badly through the 1986 season. He complains about how much he thought his playing sucked because of his back...but it was good enough to win his 3rd MVP in a row
The Joker is the real 2023, 3 time MVP. What a total shame that the race issue was deliberately slid in to ruin public perception
nooooo, he is THE FIRST JOKIC enough said, damn stupid channels and their click baits
He's no Larry bird Larry played against much better competition ☝️😊
“No one even puts close to the top 5” are you kidding me? This dude probably has Kobe top 5. Bird is easy top 5. Jordan, lebron, wilt, bird
Bird & Jokic play real basketball not alley play ground ball. If the Refs would call the game according to the real rules all the fake ball player would fall off the stats. Like James who travel more than a tourist,carries the ball more than a mom carries her child. He looks more like a running back when he goes up the lane.🤣
It was a travesty man that he didnt win three in a row but its ok hes got a ring to em now haha 😂 unlike second round embiid
Not a third. Unfortunately, it became a political choice who won.
Neither Luka nor Jokic is style of Bird.
They have aome similarities.
The MVP does not mean anything without the Ring
He got robbed
😂not even close jokic great but he ain’t in Larry Bird league
Bros gotta play better defense tho. No dont give me that defensive stat bs or deflections etc, i watch nuggets games and he gives up so many score inside even garbage teams end up with a 100+
If you can get past skin and height Steph is the closest person to Bird.
Bird wishes he was anywhere near as good as Jokic stop this disrespect
I'd say you're projecting and your disrespect needs to stop.
@@donolinger6904 it is best if you say nothing
@@dkdebest Everyone is entitled to an opinion.