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Who knew the N64 could look this good? - Nintendo 64 HD Setup with EON Super 64 | Nintendrew

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  • Опубліковано 18 лип 2019
  • In this video, we’ll check out the Super 64 from EON Gaming, and push it to its limits to determine the ultimate HD setup for Nintendo 64. Thanks for watching!
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  • @Nintendrew
    @Nintendrew  5 років тому +331

    1:49 Correction: I've been informed that the RetroTINK 2X can also accept S-video input from N64, but I don't have any S-video cables on-hand to add that option to this comparison. Might eventually have to revisit the HD daisy chain down the road with more options! 😉 Cheers.

    • @marvelousonejr832
      @marvelousonejr832 5 років тому +2

      Hi!

    • @isanchez64
      @isanchez64 5 років тому +10

      You don't have s video cables for Nintendo 64 either? Come on nintendrew! I have the monster purple s video cables, those are great.

    • @marthmarthmarth
      @marthmarthmarth 5 років тому +2

      Official Nintendo S cables are pretty rare. I was lucky to have one from the SNES era. And since they fit the N64, and GameCube win win 😊

    • @Kentama
      @Kentama 5 років тому +38

      Kind of an unfair comparison, since most reviewers seem to agree that the the Retrotink with S-Video generates fairly similar results to the Eon (which is also more expensive and less versatile compared to the Retrotink). I'm also surprised you'd buy a Retrotink and not know to use the S-Video input, that seems like a huge oversight if you were interested enough to spend that much money to improve the image quality in the first place.

    • @TopSpot123
      @TopSpot123 5 років тому +3

      @@marthmarthmarth Same here. Still looks great on my CRT, and I haven't really upgraded my classic systems to an all digital solution yet.

  • @samuelmcgriff7842
    @samuelmcgriff7842 5 років тому +318

    The deluxe EON Gaming Deluxe Set
    Regular price is
    $239.99USD
    Why!

  • @Seansteiger
    @Seansteiger 5 років тому +319

    Rumor has it if you stack a 3rd device, your N64 can run Crysis. 😄

    • @jessicahall3665
      @jessicahall3665 5 років тому +3

      Under rated comment

    • @eugiblisscast
      @eugiblisscast 5 років тому +10

      If you stack 1000 you can run Cyberpunk 2077

    • @cristianarreola8582
      @cristianarreola8582 5 років тому +1

      Ust use the DS expansion pack

    • @WednesdayMan
      @WednesdayMan 5 років тому +4

      I have an N64, can confirm I stacked the mysterious "3rd device" it ran crysis.

    • @vappyenjoyer24
      @vappyenjoyer24 4 роки тому

      I KNOW NAME OF THIS THIRD DEVICE BUT I WONT TELL YOU

  • @nolancrowder6144
    @nolancrowder6144 5 років тому +181

    Backwards long jumping in HD! Just what I always wanted!

    • @ShadowSneak.
      @ShadowSneak. 5 років тому +6

      Yayayayyayayayyaysyyaysyayayyayayayyayayayyayayayayyayayayayayyayayayayyayahoo

    • @lowqualityvideos8091
      @lowqualityvideos8091 5 років тому +1

      64 likes

    • @retro8029
      @retro8029 5 років тому +4

      who was the 1 guy who gave this 65 likes?

    • @connorplays6263
      @connorplays6263 4 роки тому +1

      Project 64: Am I a joke to you?

    • @MilesAway
      @MilesAway 4 роки тому

      Wii U VC: Am I a joke to you?

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 5 років тому +26

    Time to use this for it's ultimate application: Playing Pokémon Yellow in 1080p at 3x speed via Pokémon Stadium's Dodrio Game Boy Tower

    • @dyland9209
      @dyland9209 3 роки тому

      1440p if you do it right!

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 2 роки тому

      The oldest (mainseries, i just realized pokemon stadium one is probably older) pokemon game I still have is actually Silver (the internal battery is still good, last time i checked). I don’t have Stadium 2.

  • @noahp.638
    @noahp.638 5 років тому +32

    When I started collecting, I saw a single vid from this guy, and then I was hooked. I have a good collection now thanks to Nintendrew, thanks dude.

    • @dillis2188
      @dillis2188 5 років тому

      Noah P. So _YOU'RE_ the guy writing all those awful ad banners.

  • @moderusprime
    @moderusprime 4 роки тому +395

    When it costs more then the console you're plugging it into, there's a problem.

    • @JimboRustles
      @JimboRustles 4 роки тому +28

      Eh, not really, as a bare N64 can be had for under $50.
      Sometimes a good, original N64 controller with a tight stick can cost as much as the console itself as well, it's all offer and demand.

    • @spaceinvader7047
      @spaceinvader7047 4 роки тому +8

      I got my n64 with every cable and a slight wobbly controller for 40usd in a game store

    • @airplane6417
      @airplane6417 4 роки тому +17

      Buy an old CRT TV, and it looks almost as good

    • @deepcovergecko
      @deepcovergecko 4 роки тому +3

      Try getting a translucent n64 or Pikachu edition. Cost more than the standard grey n64 obviously.

    • @Kfowlkes09
      @Kfowlkes09 4 роки тому

      Now, but not when the 64 was new lol.

  • @hellblazerjj
    @hellblazerjj 5 років тому +16

    I love that the "ultimate setup" for N64 visuals looks so ridiculous. It's like the meme of all those old adapters connecting through from USB to Serial or something 😂😂

    • @12345stl
      @12345stl Рік тому

      I watched that entire video before I realized what was happening lol😂😂😂

  • @KyletheKollector
    @KyletheKollector 5 років тому +259

    Best review on this so far. I would be glad to have this but not for more than $50. All these reviewers received theirs for free though so it is hard to trust their judgement on these.

    • @Nintendrew
      @Nintendrew  5 років тому +44

      Appreciate it! I definitely couldn't justify $150 for it myself, but it might be a viable option for real enthusiasts/speedrunners, etc. The mClassic, though, I absolutely love. :P Will have more on that in a week or so.

    • @KyletheKollector
      @KyletheKollector 5 років тому +2

      I am excited to see that review. You are my favorite UA-camr and I look forward to and trust your reviews the most!

    • @galladeguy123
      @galladeguy123 5 років тому +14

      That's the thing, though. Enthusiasts would never buy this over the UltraHDMI, which costs only $10 more and provides actual HDMI-quality video. I feel like the Super 64 was made just to prey on people who don't know any better.

    • @Kjeldvk
      @Kjeldvk 5 років тому +5

      @@Nintendrew Speedrunners will never use this as it for sure introduces lag. Additionally, like you said, the price is just too high. If you buy a retrotink and an svideo cable you'll be off cheaper and with more versatility. Eon just seems to enjoy the momentum of the gchd and wants to stay relevant? Gchd is the best quality out of a cube. This thing is just a good looking plug and play. You can get better for botg cheaper and more expensive.

    • @Leny1777
      @Leny1777 5 років тому +1

      @@Nintendrew Where is the link for the mClassic?

  • @niktrek
    @niktrek 4 роки тому +7

    Seeing OOT this clear reminds me of how it looks on GC when they ported it. I was so impressed I went ahead and beat it all over again back in the day.

  • @gtrman12887
    @gtrman12887 5 років тому +14

    7:36 Saria needs to get them eyes checked...

    • @zennabella1676
      @zennabella1676 4 роки тому

      MY EYE SIGHT IS BAD TOO. THE PS4 GAME IM PLAYING AT PRESENT HAS TERRIBLY SMALL PRINT DQ11 AND I HAVE TO KEEP SQUINTING TO READ THE WRITING GRRRRR.

  • @Glacier_Nester
    @Glacier_Nester 5 років тому +53

    I gotta admit, the resolution/format changers like this don't usually impress me, but the super64 and masielle piece working together had my jaw on the floor! Can't believe you got something that good out of an n64!

  • @SciFiBrony
    @SciFiBrony 5 років тому +15

    I wish we got a side-by-side of Slick Mode with and without the mClassic.
    ALSO, IMO, the Slick Mode+mClassic combination works WONDERS for polygons and CERTAIN UI elements, but IMO for some text and textures, the smoothing algorithm might be a SMIDGE too aggressive and it can almost look like the edges were "smeared" rather than smoothed, giving an almost painted look. The best showing of this is the comparison highlight reel near the end of the video, the Nintendo copyright on the Zelda title screen, and all the text in the StarFox section.

    • @Bangulo
      @Bangulo Рік тому

      Yeah the painted look isn't good.

  • @aznut69
    @aznut69 5 років тому +32

    I'd need a loan from a small country to buy both of those 😩

  • @CryptoJordanVR
    @CryptoJordanVR 5 років тому +6

    Well color me impressed! I did not expect quite *that* big of a difference. Just goes to show how far scaling technology has come over the years. Great video as usual man! Can't wait to see the separate video you do on the Marseille mClassic!

  • @ibookboyuk
    @ibookboyuk 4 роки тому +2

    That Perfect Dark footage was particularly mind-blowing. Good video man. Thank you.

  • @Lilithe
    @Lilithe 5 років тому +43

    "almost as old as I am"
    Pardon me as I turn into dust. :D

    • @zennabella1676
      @zennabella1676 4 роки тому +1

      WOULD YOU BE OLDER THAN ME? IM 68 THIS YEAR.

    • @FutureGohanGlazer
      @FutureGohanGlazer 4 роки тому +2

      IM 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 this year I’m about to turn into dust in 999999999999999999999 years

  • @aanawenjigewin
    @aanawenjigewin 5 років тому +53

    Who else wanted him to show footage of the “L is real” fountain?

    • @henarlol2947
      @henarlol2947 4 роки тому +3

      That would be interesting. I guess.

    • @-._-._.-_.-
      @-._-._.-_.- 4 роки тому +5

      That's a texture‚ it won't change scale

  • @Pjiwm
    @Pjiwm 5 років тому +11

    I got a billion videos in my sub feed about this thing. But if Nintendrew makes a video about it, it's a must watch.

  • @electronash
    @electronash 5 років тому +10

    "The Super 64 aims to provide the best possible image from an unmodified N64."
    This is mostly true, but it's important to note that it has to rely on the S-Video output of the console, since that's the best (analog) signal that an unmodded N64 can provide.
    If a stock N64 could output RGB, then that would definitely be the preferred analog connection of choice.
    (and I'm not sure any of them do, even though most NTSC versions have an RGB-capable DAC that's not wired up to the AV port for some bizarre reason. I think all stock PAL N64s only output Composite and S-Video, with no RGB-capable DAC.)
    So the Super 64 is essentially a converter from analog to digital, and not a true digital HDMI solution, like the UltraHDMI.
    Sure, the UltraHDMI costs more in total if you have to hire an installer, but it offers a true pixel-perfect noise-free digital connection, VI Deblur, width / height / overscan options, "retro" mode" / scanlines, upscaling to 720p or 1080p, and many other options.
    I have a strong hunch that the Super 64 is actually using the exact same chips as the RetroTink 2X, with the "Slick Mode" on the former being the same thing as the "Smoothing" option on the latter.
    The RetroTink 2X only costs $99 in comparison, it does accept S-Video, Composite AND Component, and can be used with many other retro consoles / computers for 480p / 576p output via HDMI.
    Don't get me wrong, I understand the convenience of "plug n play" solutions like the Super 64, but the price seems high for what it offers.
    Even if you include a decent N64 S-Video cable with the RetroTink 2X, it still works out less, can be used with other machines, and offers a Component input (which can be used with the OG Xbox, PS2 etc.).

    • @lionatwork8763
      @lionatwork8763 4 роки тому

      Some french PAL consoles did hace RGB. You then have to use a SCART cable. But only certain models did have the RGB compatibility.

    • @antoinejotte357
      @antoinejotte357 4 роки тому

      ​@@lionatwork8763 On those PAL FRA, RGB is achieved only after adding the missing components on the motherboard.

  • @MaidenHell1977
    @MaidenHell1977 5 років тому +104

    Fantastic review. Unfortunately this item is extremely pricey. I am lucky enough to enjoy my N64 on a CRT with S-video and that's all I need.

    • @ChrisMX9
      @ChrisMX9 5 років тому +19

      Yes you don't need all those pricey adapters when you have a CRT! My N64 is connected to my 14" Sony Trinitron via composite and it looks pretty good!
      Edit : I now have a 21" Trinitron and it's even more amazing!

    • @darklordyianni4463
      @darklordyianni4463 5 років тому +1

      same here, mate.

    • @FinalBaton
      @FinalBaton 5 років тому +3

      That is a great setup indeed Kevin.

    • @MaidenHell1977
      @MaidenHell1977 5 років тому +3

      I play it on a flat screen CRT haha :D

    • @darrelldean7116
      @darrelldean7116 5 років тому

      Kevin Nunes then the image looks worse on your TV then a non-flat, so I wouldn’t brag about that

  • @PKSlippy
    @PKSlippy 5 років тому +16

    6:18 Hey guys Drew has Footage of Sword and shield
    Oh wait

    • @meriotroid
      @meriotroid 5 років тому

      Oh man this comment is gonna piss off some mindless fanboys

  • @TheDesecrator
    @TheDesecrator 3 роки тому +2

    I bought this and have never regretted it.
    Once I started playing Paper Mario with that smoothing feature, there was no going back.

  • @DarkwingDann
    @DarkwingDann 4 роки тому +6

    It just shows how good n64 was that 25 yrs later they're still producing hardware for it

    • @tavius88
      @tavius88 2 роки тому +1

      N64 is top 3 all time in consoles

  • @TrialzGTAS
    @TrialzGTAS 5 років тому +8

    This looks terrific! I bought an older TV just the 64, but this’ll be a great tool

  • @RoyalEqustrianGuard
    @RoyalEqustrianGuard 5 років тому +6

    That is insane, I never thought image quality for the N64 could be so good looking on the original hardware. Sure it's pricey but damn it's like they doubled the resolution.

  • @Tayra_Reberta
    @Tayra_Reberta 2 роки тому +2

    I know this video is a bit old, there's something called a Level Hike HDMI upscaler. And from what I've seen of the device, it can produce an image that's close to emulation quality. Several people who has seen gameplay that's using the Level Hike on an SNES, N64, and Gamecube couldn't tell that it was being played on an actual console. You should check that out and see if it matches or does better than the devices that you've reviewed already. I think you might be surprised by it's quality.

  • @Bonswally
    @Bonswally 3 роки тому +4

    For those like me who think it's too expensive, you can get a rad2x cable which essentially does the same thing for less than half the price. No lag, region free, rgb support, no external power, works on n64, snes and gamecube.

    • @fluffisaurus7090
      @fluffisaurus7090 3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately Eon has marketed this product as the best you can get and many people have fallen into that trap. Most “reviews” of this product are blatant ads, the only actual review I’ve seen is Digital Foundry’s. Plus the Retrotink 5x makes composite video look better than this adapter due to its amazing composite comb filter.

    • @FreakinSweet1987
      @FreakinSweet1987 2 роки тому

      @@fluffisaurus7090 The only reason you consider the Digital Foundry video more legitimate is because they had more criticisms than other videos. If you look at comparisons like John Hancock did, you'll see that the Super 64 is essentially the best middle ground between a lower end device and the HDMI mod in terms of both colors and picture quality. It does a better job at upscaling, and without input lag on top of it.
      It's important to remember that Digital Foundry is constantly exposed to differing levels of video quality across dozens of platforms. It's natural they won't be impressed by something so standard. But the average consumer will likely be blown away by the difference.

  • @yyyme
    @yyyme 5 років тому +8

    Great work on the video! Only miss step would be the omission of S-video as a viable option as well.

  • @Dash120z
    @Dash120z 5 років тому +7

    that looks bloody amazing, there's definitely a noticeable improvement over there!

  • @penisboy97
    @penisboy97 5 років тому +19

    A little unfair how you didn’t test svideo with the smoothing option of retro tink, it should be the same if not better quality.

    • @beachplease808
      @beachplease808 3 роки тому

      He didn't have the S-Video cables.

    • @penisboy97
      @penisboy97 3 роки тому +3

      Beach Please if he didn’t have svideo, he should not have reviewed this product

    • @cysper4703
      @cysper4703 3 роки тому +1

      @@penisboy97 Yeah Agreed you got a point there.

  • @Jay84476
    @Jay84476 4 роки тому +2

    Good that there's a middle of the road options between composite upscaling and Ultra HDMI

  • @beeswithchainsaws
    @beeswithchainsaws 4 роки тому +4

    me: **notices his shirt**
    also me: IT'S-A-ME!!! UPER MAR!!!

  • @SigmaShawn
    @SigmaShawn 5 років тому +6

    You'll get more bang for your buck if you get an S-Video cable and and upscaler like the Retro Tink 2X instead of the Super 64 which is only meant for N64

  • @theREDpanda2002
    @theREDpanda2002 5 років тому +1

    Woah! This is like, totally rad bro! I never knew you could have such an image without modding the system! I might have to buy these!

  • @ianeverest1063
    @ianeverest1063 5 місяців тому +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I just started playing Perfect dark on my N64 with my 4K tv. The blurs really bother me. Sometimes it is hard to see the enemies. So happy you let me know about this product I am going got buy it!

    • @518streets2
      @518streets2 3 місяці тому

      Hello Did u buy it if so how is it

  • @BlyssSarania
    @BlyssSarania 5 років тому +8

    Everybody has their own preference and there is no one "right" way. For my own preference, we have a 27 inch Trinitron and output the N64 to it with s-video. I much prefer that to any kind of modern display, adapter, or the like. These consoles and games were made with CRTs in mind and I really feel that older consoles always look their best on a CRT for that reason. Basically PS2, Gamecube, and older -> CRT with best input option available. Original Xbox and newer -> Upscaled, HDTV, emulator, etc. That's my preference.
    That said the Perfect Dark footage at the end did legitimately impress, so for those who don't want to deal with a giant CRT or prefer this kind of look, I can definitely see it as an option. Too bad it's so expensive though!

    • @WednesdayMan
      @WednesdayMan 3 роки тому

      my preference is, everything before 7th generation CRT only, 7th Generation works on both CRT and HDTV, however Wii is best on a CRT.

  • @mogg4243
    @mogg4243 5 років тому +8

    Finally! I can see links triangle nose
    *In HD!!!*

  • @codecato9527
    @codecato9527 5 років тому +2

    5:00 Thats quite alot of detail from just those low res UI Elements! Truly some wizardry here.

  • @zichithefox4781
    @zichithefox4781 4 роки тому +1

    I was really hoping for some F-Zero footage. Ah well. This still looks amazing and basically gives you the nostalgic feel of what these games felt like when we first played them.

  • @TheTipTapper
    @TheTipTapper 5 років тому +16

    Our solution was that we keep an older television in the spare room for our older consoles... Definitely not a crystal clear picture, but it adds an extra level of nostalgia to boot up an older television 📺

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 5 років тому +1

      Cheap tube TV/monitor that will work with all older consoles vs expensive mod/cable for each console (and there still may be input lag)...hmm....tough choice.

    • @hiawa23
      @hiawa23 5 років тому

      Yep, me too. My classic consoles are attached to my Tube tv

  • @LeviNiha
    @LeviNiha 5 років тому +35

    DREWTENDO!!

  • @NAMEANDADDRESSWITHHELD726
    @NAMEANDADDRESSWITHHELD726 Рік тому

    5:50 5:53 Nintendrew knew what he was doing! Best resolution I ever saw in my life, take it from me who has both collaborated on my Nintendo 64! Absolutely amazing! ❤

  • @JacoboGarcia
    @JacoboGarcia 5 років тому +1

    N64 RGB modded + Framemeister + mClassic + Cinema edition, that´s the combination I use, great video 10/10 :-)

  • @SilimSavertin
    @SilimSavertin 5 років тому +430

    Its a neat toy, sure, but its not worth over 100 bucks.

    • @v-nus7718
      @v-nus7718 5 років тому +39

      For someone who wants really good footage for youtube out of the console without having to resort to using an emulator or a daisy chain of upscalers, it may be downright essential.

    • @VantaCube
      @VantaCube 5 років тому +35

      @@v-nus7718 Path of least resistance dictates if someone is getting UA-cam footage and owns the games, they'll just emulate it. After all, free is much less expensive than $150 - $240.

    • @SimianIndustries
      @SimianIndustries 5 років тому +20

      @@v-nus7718 UltraHDMI sounds like the best solution. This thing is stupid expensive for what it is

    • @greengamerguy623
      @greengamerguy623 5 років тому +18

      50$ maybe

    • @marksaile6419
      @marksaile6419 5 років тому

      Oh yes... yes it is.

  • @marthmarthmarth
    @marthmarthmarth 5 років тому +16

    Just to let you know. The xrgb framemeister accepts composite, S, component, DVI and RGB cables directly from the console. Not just composite.

    • @fluffisaurus7090
      @fluffisaurus7090 3 роки тому +1

      The Retrotink does component video and S-video too, plus it’s supposed to be a less expensive more beginner friendly scaler.

  • @G23G_
    @G23G_ 5 років тому +1

    Eon Super64 - $150
    RetroTink 2x - $105
    Retro Access N64 S-Video cable - $25
    Total - $130, with the added bonus of being able to hook up any game console via Composite, S-Video, or YPbPr, along with a smoothing/"slick" option (if you're into that sort of thing).
    Seems like a no-brainer to me.

    • @RyoPotter
      @RyoPotter 5 років тому

      On the other hand, this is far easier for dumbies like me...

  • @xh.2005
    @xh.2005 5 років тому +1

    I like how I look up thia exact topic and you uploaded what I need the same day

  • @songoku64
    @songoku64 5 років тому +5

    I finally found a way to play the N64 with HD, I was going to get the HDMI Mod, but with the EON 64 and the mCable, it's a don deal lol

    • @excessmaterial
      @excessmaterial 5 років тому +3

      Just keep in mind unless you want the image stretched you will want to get the mclassic instead of an mcable. It has the option to toggle to 4:3 aspect ratio, the mcable doesn't.

    • @songoku64
      @songoku64 5 років тому

      @@excessmaterial ok

    • @temalagova2663
      @temalagova2663 4 роки тому

      if you use an emulator youll be able to pull internal hd wth higher framerate, for free

  • @NicB-Creations
    @NicB-Creations 5 років тому +14

    Can you please test the mcable with Retrotink 2x on N64 in a future video? With and withouth smoothing. I'm using s-video with Retrotink 2x.

    • @jjsoundlighting
      @jjsoundlighting 5 років тому

      Metal Jesus did a comparison with the retrotink, ultra HDMI n64 and that new adapter.

  • @TheHighestGodisGood
    @TheHighestGodisGood Рік тому +1

    Now, run the new clean signal into a 24" Trinitron to get scan lines!

  • @SalsaTips
    @SalsaTips Рік тому

    "On a machine that is almost as old as I am."
    I'm watching this and thinking, "Great, I remember being a teenager when this machine released, mate"

  • @ElectroPotato
    @ElectroPotato 4 роки тому +10

    Me, in PAL region, still using a 20 year old CRT:
    *Laughs in euroscart uncomfortably

    • @cysper4703
      @cysper4703 3 роки тому

      CRT TV's are what Retro Consoles are designed for.
      Why bring them in a HD Flat Screen TV? Of Course it would look bad.
      Don't worry use SCART if you can use it there or even Standard Composite Cables.
      It would look nice there since CRT's supports rest of the Retro Consoles heck even from Consoles today coz I saw someone uses PS5 on it and PS5 Games looks good.

  • @joshmartimez2235
    @joshmartimez2235 5 років тому +3

    I might buy both of these adapters in tbe near future along with a new third party N64 controller.

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan 4 роки тому +2

    "Composite is the poorest video quality you can get from the N64 officially"
    Nintendo's official N64 RF adapter: "Allow me to introduce myself"

  • @518streets2
    @518streets2 3 місяці тому

    I just got a Nintendo 64 with three games for 70 bucks I also purchased these two items waiting for them to come in the mail. I can’t wait. 🔥

  • @thetinpin
    @thetinpin 4 роки тому +10

    Since this has been out for a while now, surely the price has gone dow-
    *NOPE!*

  • @eastsidedirtykid
    @eastsidedirtykid 5 років тому +4

    Best video by far on this product and what a surprise with that cable I’ve never heard about! How is lag though because that’s my biggest personal issue with stuff like this?

  • @DDRhappiness17
    @DDRhappiness17 2 роки тому +1

    I got both the M classic and EON64 for this
    The closest I can get to a full HD 64 experience
    I love how clean it looks on my flat screen

    • @69metersbelow25
      @69metersbelow25 2 роки тому +1

      You use both at the same time?

    • @DDRhappiness17
      @DDRhappiness17 2 роки тому

      @@69metersbelow25
      Yup
      It really does look as clear as he says in the video
      I love it

  • @malcolmar
    @malcolmar 5 років тому +1

    WOW! Simple WOW! I bet Rogue Squadron would look amazing with your set up.

  • @bengolious
    @bengolious 5 років тому +7

    Neglected to mention that it isn't compatible with PAL n64s.

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 4 роки тому

      A pal version is coming but id recommend getting a Rad2x for $100 less

    • @albey1816
      @albey1816 4 роки тому

      @@ians_parks - RAD2X is great - I own one and use it on my Modded N64. I would not use the RAD2X on a stock console.
      You have to have an RGB Modded N64 to get the best out of the RAD2X. - If you use it on a stock N64 you only get upsampled Composite video. I do not know why Mike Chi did not implement S-Video into the circuitry ( The Retrotink can pull S-video and the RAD2X is based on same tech - so why was it left out? )
      The EON Super64 is the best solution for a stock NTSC N64.

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 4 роки тому

      @@albey1816 Mike Chi most likely left it out to keep the cost down. Also i could never justify nor recommend spending $150 on an adapter that only works on the n64 and only draws svideo. For that price it better support rgb, svideo, and composite and work on all nintendo consoles with the multiout connector. Eon needs to cut it out with these premium prices.

    • @salduchi1785
      @salduchi1785 4 роки тому

      Why is it not compatible with Pal?

  • @Tapukokomaster54
    @Tapukokomaster54 5 років тому +10

    Hey nintendrew you've helped me out with my collection by inspiring me to collect thank you for that
    Edit: thanks nintendrew for the heart

    • @Senorjalapeno26
      @Senorjalapeno26 5 років тому +3

      I don’t see a heart

    • @Tapukokomaster54
      @Tapukokomaster54 5 років тому

      @@Senorjalapeno26 I got a noti saying he hearted the comment and I see the heart

    • @Senorjalapeno26
      @Senorjalapeno26 5 років тому

      tapukokomaster YT yeah I see it now. Maybe it was just a glitch or something

    • @Tapukokomaster54
      @Tapukokomaster54 5 років тому

      @@Senorjalapeno26 ok

    • @iProgramInCpp
      @iProgramInCpp 5 років тому

      @@Senorjalapeno26 the problem is editing the comment removes the heart until the OP hearts it back

  • @tabbuh6195
    @tabbuh6195 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for showing this. The N64 is one of my favorite consoles of all time, and I had almost given up hope playing mine on my TV since I'm not willing to spend $400 on a modded console, or carefully look for a working official S-video cable to use in conjunction with my Retrotink. While the Super 64-mClassic combo is still pricy. I'm still willing to spend my money for the convenience of it.

    • @ToothpickMan11
      @ToothpickMan11 5 років тому +2

      You could buy a RetroTiNK 2x and a custom S-video cable, and you'd be getting just as good of a picture while saving at least $30. Not only can you use the RetroTiNK 2x with the N64 but you can also use it with other systems as well. The EON is still only using the S-video signal.

  • @theblowupdollsmusic
    @theblowupdollsmusic 5 років тому +2

    Great review. Thank you for making this. I loved the stacked adapters quality!

  • @TroutButter
    @TroutButter 5 років тому +12

    I'm curious what the mClassic would be like plugged into a framemeister. S-Video cables into a framemeister is how I currently play the N64. One day I'd like to grab another system and put the Ultra HDMI into it. But my current method actually looks really good to me.

  • @themilkman6669
    @themilkman6669 5 років тому +3

    Huh. Rerez and Drew uploading a video on the same exact topic on the same day.

    • @coochie8670
      @coochie8670 5 років тому

      And spawnwave

    • @43bigsteve
      @43bigsteve 5 років тому

      A lot of people got this to review, but they weren’t allowed to release the video until a certain date.

    • @themilkman6669
      @themilkman6669 5 років тому

      @@43bigsteve That makes more sense.

  • @gammaboost
    @gammaboost 4 роки тому +1

    I think the reason the Super 64 is able to make the picture look so good is that it determines where the edges of the pixels are and makes each pixel space show the same colour, unlike the composite cables where each pixel has a bluring applied in between and also has colour artifacts.

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 4 роки тому

      Its svideo content linedoubled to 480p

  • @perkimba8369
    @perkimba8369 4 роки тому +1

    I've been looking closely at the comparisons and I've noticed that at some point the display from the Super64 + mClassic freezes a little bit. This is more noticeable at the minute 7:43 when the logo starts disappearing in which the lag on the left can be clearly seen.

  • @Snooplax
    @Snooplax 5 років тому +3

    Great video, when I saw this product released I was hoping to see a review by you!

  • @Auddy07
    @Auddy07 5 років тому +3

    I wish there was a comparison of S-Video and the Super 64. It doesn't really matter for me since I have an Ultra HDMI, but for the other people that don't and already have S-Video (or for my other N64's that don't have Ultra HDMI) it woulda been nice. :P

    • @Nintendrew
      @Nintendrew  5 років тому

      I don't have any experience with s-video cables, but would definitely consider revisiting it if there's any discernible difference in quality! Thanks for watching.

  • @ians_parks
    @ians_parks 5 років тому +1

    3:46 Just so everyone knows this information is incorrect and the comparison is unfair. Drew is using Composite cables with the Retrotink2x instead of Svideo which it does support. Thats why the Eon adapter looks significantly sharper. The Eon adapter uses svideo to get its picture so if Drew simply used an Svideo cable with the Retrotink2x theyd both look exactly the same, no better and no worse.

    • @kenh6096
      @kenh6096 5 років тому

      Agree. This video was very misleading in this respect and I hope as a reputable journalist he will add a note to this video and/or make a follow-up video to rectify the issue.

  • @The31stcenturyfox
    @The31stcenturyfox 5 років тому

    Just bought a EON Super 64, soon I'll buy an mClassic. Thanks for the discount! Hope this supports your channel!

  • @PogueSquadron
    @PogueSquadron 5 років тому +3

    Won't this all extremely depend on your TV'S ability to scale 480p? I tried component in my Wii and it was just suuuuper blurry.

    • @kenh6096
      @kenh6096 5 років тому

      Yes, very much so.

    • @cysper4703
      @cysper4703 3 роки тому

      Just Use CRT's and forget about this whatever he's selling to us.

  • @BeardGuy-vz8tn
    @BeardGuy-vz8tn 5 років тому +6

    Finally sucked it up and bought this, along with the mclassic! A little pricey, sure. But I'm looking forward to what those two things can do! Especially when combined like you showed! #retroforlife much love and respect from Canada bud!

    • @lionzDen23
      @lionzDen23 4 роки тому

      How did it work?where did you purchase ?

  • @letisianieto4603
    @letisianieto4603 5 років тому +1

    You could also just use a Sony Trinitron CRT TV with the N64 S-video cable. This saves tons of money and the picture looks better rather than hooking it up to any flatscreen TV.

  • @mrguitman99
    @mrguitman99 5 років тому +1

    Amazing set-up, you always come up with great things to show us Drew. Love it!

  • @Rober815
    @Rober815 5 років тому +4

    I play SM64 on my beautiful WiiU it is HDMI and the Pro Controller is great.

  • @udczoey
    @udczoey 5 років тому +4

    Ya know, the initial "unveiling" of the Super 64 kind of urked me because I saw no significant difference in quality. And while it's still what I consider to be barely on par with an RGB mod, (not saying RGB for N64 is bad at all, it's just a lot less significant on the 64 compared to consoles before it) it actually doesn't look as bad here as it did in the trailer video. It actually looks more appealing, although I still feel like $149.99 is still kind of asking much.

  • @molo-molo5103
    @molo-molo5103 4 роки тому

    MyLifeInGaming: We have the best looking N64 of the entire world
    Nintendrew: i'm gonna end this man's whole carreer

  • @RyanRossman
    @RyanRossman 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this review! I snagged a Super 64 along with the M Classic and have been rebuilding my N64 collection.

  • @miseryman2727
    @miseryman2727 4 роки тому +12

    When the retrotink 2x mini comes out the super 64 will be useless

    • @fluffisaurus7090
      @fluffisaurus7090 3 роки тому +1

      Yep and Eon is still selling the damn thing for $150, when the 2x mini is $70, does the same thing, and also can be used on other consoles.

  • @clutchpromo
    @clutchpromo 5 років тому +3

    can i ask everyone a question? does anyone know what is the best capture card I can use for my PS2 or N64 to capture gameplay? Thanks!

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 5 років тому +2

      clutchpromo Depends on your setup. If you have a Frameiester, something like an AverMedia LiveGamer HD or an Elgato GameCapture HD60. If you have an OSSC instead, you may need something with better compatibility to deal with the off-spec signal. If you have nothing, then a card capable of accepting 240p natively and interpreting it correctly.

    • @clutchpromo
      @clutchpromo 5 років тому

      @@justanotheryoutubechannel Hi thank you so much for the very informative and helpful reply! My setup is using the physical consoles with cartridges/CDs, do these still apply? Think 15 years ago when I last recorded gameplay, I used something called Dazzle. Thanks again!!

  • @proZach380
    @proZach380 4 роки тому +1

    It's on sale right now at CastleMania for 130, couple that with the 10% discount code and free shipping for 117...not too bad.

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 4 роки тому

      Still overpriced for what is offers

  • @callmeviper7723
    @callmeviper7723 4 роки тому +2

    You failed to mention the use of S-cables vs composite cables.

    • @kenh6096
      @kenh6096 4 роки тому +1

      It's almost as if he was deliberately trying to make the EON look better than it actually is compared to the competition.

  • @FoBro91
    @FoBro91 5 років тому +4

    As much as I want this upscaler to be good, the fact that it has the bare minimum and still costs $150 is a hard pass from me. Maybe I'll buy it on a black friday sale or something, but compared to the GCHD (different console, I know, but it's from the same company) it just doesn't seem as impressive.

  • @pastarhythm2762
    @pastarhythm2762 5 років тому +3

    mClassic plus Super64 makes it look like the N64 outputs at a native 1080p! incredible!

    • @or2130
      @or2130 5 років тому

      Pasta Rhythm it’s not even out yet ...?

  • @alienJIZ1990
    @alienJIZ1990 2 місяці тому

    For a CRT, I'd think this "budget" option would work:
    PC CRT:
    EON64 > HDMI to VGA (fast & lagless and bam, you're back in Analog land) > VGA to GBS-C (scaling as desired) > VGA to monitor's VGA
    TV CRT:
    EON64 > HDMI to VGA (fast & lagless and bam, you're back in Analog land) > VGA to Component (or VGA > BNC cable to Component caps) > Component to TV's component inputs

  • @MizzahTee
    @MizzahTee 5 років тому

    *Oh this bundle is a HUGE BUY for me. N64 is my favorite console of all time and I still play it today like it's new. Now it will finally look good on my HDTV... WOOT!*

  • @purplefish3609
    @purplefish3609 5 років тому +5

    but theres s-video cable! you forgot about that?

    • @Nintendrew
      @Nintendrew  5 років тому

      I don't have any experience with s-video cables, but would definitely consider revisiting it if there's any discernible difference in quality! Thanks for watching.

  • @Retro_Royal
    @Retro_Royal 5 років тому +3

    Not testing the Retrotink with S-Video is sort of.. uneven playfield.

  • @Cbgrandtheftauto
    @Cbgrandtheftauto 4 роки тому

    I just got both! I love them. Yes, it was expensive, but it's worth it! I have my 64 on a projector that puts out a screen size of around 108". On the original cables it's horrible. Made me not even want to play. Using a cheap HDMI adapter isn't much of an improvement. With both plugged in (I have the m-classic plugged into the output of my receiver going to my projector so all my systems go through it) the picture looks amazing especially at that large of a size! I feel content with the purchase because it makes me feel satisfied that I am playing at the best possible visual option and not just "rigging it up " to work through HDMI.

  • @littleguystar
    @littleguystar 4 роки тому +1

    Good video for casual people who just want to play N64. I believe that S-video with the retrotink is the right way to go considering cost. Also I don't think the EON Super 64 could stand a candle to the Castle of flames the HDMI mod is. It removes some of the blur a nonmodded system could never remove!

  • @calibudz916
    @calibudz916 5 років тому +6

    CRT TVs are cheap af like 10-20$ and stay true to the original

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 5 років тому

      They are also impractical for your everyday consumer in 2019

    • @calibudz916
      @calibudz916 5 років тому +1

      Spending 150$ is impractical

    • @RyoPotter
      @RyoPotter 5 років тому

      @@calibudz916 Unless you make real money without significant expenses, which seems to apply to most collectors, given that they can spend impractical amounts of money on stuff that's only different from other stuff because it has a layer of cardboard.

  • @trailmix7033
    @trailmix7033 5 років тому +3

    How cool! Cant wait to bu- oh its 150$

    • @samuelmcgriff7842
      @samuelmcgriff7842 5 років тому +1

      TrailMix_ EON Gaming Deluxe Set
      Regular price
      $239.99USD

    • @trailmix7033
      @trailmix7033 5 років тому +1

      Sam M thats a yikers from me

  • @goldenfreddy-gj5wy
    @goldenfreddy-gj5wy 6 місяців тому

    Best video Image I got for my 64, authentic N64 S-Video cable, Retroscaler, and mClassic.

  • @parkerofthepancakes2621
    @parkerofthepancakes2621 5 років тому

    6:06 wow that's smooth

  • @adamwilson1691
    @adamwilson1691 4 роки тому +3

    Yeah, think I’d rather go retrotink with s-video instead

  • @smughatkid9981
    @smughatkid9981 5 років тому +3

    Still better than Sword and Shield

  • @NikoBellicDigital
    @NikoBellicDigital 5 років тому +1

    With the EON and the mClassic, it kinda looks like a painting!

  • @Premium_Jelly
    @Premium_Jelly 4 роки тому +1

    7:52 Mario’s had one too many to drink there