Why Toji vs The Hashira Is Closer Than You Think...

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  • @rhemv
    @rhemv  11 місяців тому +7

    first edited video there may be some inaccurate panels and wrong wording bc of a language barrier from our editor , but still guud

    • @Julian.noa21
      @Julian.noa21 11 місяців тому

      Yo awesome vid and idk if you take suggestions but if you do can you do kokushibo vs Kashimo? Or muzan vs the special grades or yorichi vs the special grades

    • @rhemv
      @rhemv  11 місяців тому

      @@Julian.noa21very good suggestions , got some videos lined up rn but I’ll be sure to get to one of the special grades videos for sure

    • @Julian.noa21
      @Julian.noa21 11 місяців тому

      @@rhemv btw i personally don't agree with scaling demon slayer characters to lightning timer speeds because the speed of lightning can vary greatly depending on the air pressure, humidity and the amount of electrons so these constitute the speed of lightning to such point where are the lowest it can be mach 1.3 to mach 1200 so I do think it's quite inconsistent so i think it's nice to use more consistent feats like muichiro cutting down 10000 fish in seconds which can be calced to mach 100

    • @Julian.noa21
      @Julian.noa21 11 місяців тому

      @@rhemv also thanks for accepting the video idea

  • @gopalkrishnakisku8249
    @gopalkrishnakisku8249 9 місяців тому +9

    Daki :- Tanjiro had hard time dodging her obi slashes as tanjiro can dodge kyogai drum attack which was travelling at speed of sound . So daki should be somewhere supersonic to low hypersonic . HER slashes were slashing multiplr wooden houses which i prefer her at buildinglevel to large building level(highballed).And she can extent her ribbons. Tengen beheaded daki in instant without breathing style. After that gyutaro appeared . And when tengen@D4rkH4ze2 ran to kill gyutaro . He instantly teleported along with daki and while teleporting he attached daki head . I calced it as hypersonic + . During fight of tengen vs gyutaro, they were destroying whole town maybe because of tengen bombs? As muzan said gyutaro was still holding back . He would have killed all of them if he wanted but she was busy saving his sister . After his head was beheaded, his body exploded and nothing left . Also he has blood sickles . That can move unpredictability. From this i scale gyutaro speed to hypersonic + and Ap to town - large town lvl( as stated by muzan , he was holding back).
    Infact he's sickles have poison. And if it hit toji he's done.
    Get Toji pass Gyutaro . If he managed to that would be high -extreme diff .
    Lets assume he defeated gyutaro. Next will be Former UM6 kaigaku.
    As kaigaku was a thunder breathing user along with zenitsu.
    After becoming demon his breathing style mixed with blood demon art making his thunder breathing real. So he's attack speed would be atleast massively hypersonic ( mach 235-300). As in panel when he used his BDA against zenitsu his body skin got cracked and burns. But still zenitsu managed to blitz him( with his 7th form) so fast that he couldn't perceive his attack despite being MHS. And as thunder breathing is derived by sun breathing, Yoriichi should be alot faster as he was blessed by buddha.

  • @weatherreport3249
    @weatherreport3249 11 місяців тому +2

    Great editing and honest. Subbed.
    Only criticism I have is that even if it's a one-sided stomp, it'd be nice to still go much more in-depth and maybe have him run the gauntlet. It's just more interesting to see how he matches up vs each of them and his potential win-cons. Like, we understand he loses, but I'd like to see some more in-depth analysis on the actual fight itself.

    • @rhemv
      @rhemv  11 місяців тому +2

      We did a gauntlet but it made the video super long and our recordings were really bad so that’s why the ending is like that , thanks for the sub

    • @weatherreport3249
      @weatherreport3249 11 місяців тому

      @rhemv That's understandable. Honestly I prefer the much longer videos!

  • @gafraavrilt2297
    @gafraavrilt2297 8 місяців тому +1

    Imagine If The Demon Slayer Corps Hired Toji Fushiguro To Slays All Lower Moons,Upper Moons,Twelve Kizukis And Muzan Kibutsuji

    • @Bob-x1r
      @Bob-x1r 8 місяців тому +1

      He wouldn't get past hantengu

    • @Luffy02848
      @Luffy02848 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Bob-x1rhe would

    • @pauljrechezona3126
      @pauljrechezona3126 4 місяці тому

      He wouldn't even get past guytaro and daki

  • @DownsideArt
    @DownsideArt 11 місяців тому +1

    W take and nice editing bro 🔥

  • @yeikelamores6085
    @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому +3

    Toji does not escalate to Jogo and in any case for any connoisseur knows that Jogo and Toji is a closed debate,With Jogo having more AP, DC, Hax and Range, while Toji is tougher and physically stronger and they are both in the same speed range.

    • @devanplays3509
      @devanplays3509 6 місяців тому

      Toji would clap jogo

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 6 місяців тому

      @@devanplays3509 no

    • @Luffy02848
      @Luffy02848 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@yeikelamores6085yes he would jogos durability is trash it is stated that pre shibuya itadori and pre shibuya todo would kill jogo with 5 yuji blackflashes and 1 playful cloud strike would kill jogo on the spot

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 5 місяців тому

      @@Luffy02848 I never like that statement, as it is contradicted by what we see on screen

    • @Luffy02848
      @Luffy02848 5 місяців тому

      @@yeikelamores6085 it's by the creator it doesn't matter if you don't like it it is a statement by the creator

  • @JustanotherArtist.
    @JustanotherArtist. 3 місяці тому

    Toji EASILY speedblitzes those fodders, he literally runned away from paying child support, that gotta be atleast top 3 best speed feats in fiction.

  • @_Ch1wa
    @_Ch1wa 11 місяців тому +8

    great vid, but nah toji wins (im biased)

  • @Ghostyboydead
    @Ghostyboydead 11 місяців тому +15

    So Yoriichi slams....

  • @QS4LBanks
    @QS4LBanks 10 місяців тому

    Great production

  • @THEANALYSIS-d4q
    @THEANALYSIS-d4q Місяць тому

    Can you do toji Vs the upper moon as well as scaling anime verses videos

  • @minhluong7456
    @minhluong7456 5 місяців тому

    wait, what is the hashira's travel speed

  • @jonathanlouis1723
    @jonathanlouis1723 6 місяців тому +1

    Toji stops at upper 4 he does not solo the verse at all

  • @multi-versal-guy4757
    @multi-versal-guy4757 2 місяці тому

    So Tpji is only hypersonic huh? 😂😂😂😂
    Hey all, we know how shit ds's AP is, but they try to glaze its speed to get them the win over jjk top tiers like Toji. Here is why he perception blitzes the verse.
    1) Toji Blitzes Ino feat:
    In chapter 97 of JJK, Toji blitzes Ino, who is a black flash user, and if you know how fast a black flash users perception speed is you'll know it's at least 0.000001 seconds, Despite this, Toji reacted to ino before ino could react to Toji and got Blitzed by Toji, making this the timeframe for the speed of this feat
    Calculation:
    Average Human height = 1.7 meters = 37 PX
    1.7/37 = 0.046 meters per PX
    Distance from Toji to Ino = 107.2 PX = 4.93 meters
    The timeframe is 0.000001 seconds since Ino is a Black flash user and would need to have this reaction speed, yet Toji still reached him before he could react.
    Toji's speed = 4.93 / 0.000001 = 4930000 m/s
    Final Result
    Toji blitzes Ino = 4930000 m/s; 1.64% SoL (Sub-Relativistic)
    2) Megumi vs. Toji
    Feat, Toji perceives Megumi's rabbits in slow motion
    Lupus Arcticus can move at a speed of 16.6667 m/s
    His movements generate too many afterimages and at the same time generate shock waves, so I am going to use the speed of sound. (343.2 m/s)
    16.6667 / 0.001 = 16666.7
    16666.7 *343.2 = 5720011.44 m/s or 2% SoL (Sub-Relativistic)
    Tojis speed can be scaled higher if you're willing to consider the fact that maki fights a sukuna that dodged a light speed attack, making her relative to it
    Toji = Maki, so all of this scaling applies to her, too.
    For everyone who doesn't know a fully healthy, no drugged muzan got perception blitzes by an explosion, which is super sonic at best. This makes sense as other characters like mitsuri have been blitzed by soundwaves before. Along with every other hashira who was marked after being caught guard by an explosion, muzan releases once again, making them super sonic.

  • @YacineScales
    @YacineScales 11 місяців тому +1

    Good video

  • @Toddles
    @Toddles 11 місяців тому +1

    toji gets stomped and its not even close

  • @L3vit4m
    @L3vit4m 11 місяців тому +4

    biased af but W vid

  • @mushroomsrcool1449
    @mushroomsrcool1449 11 місяців тому +20

    Curses are stronger than demons, and in a world like JJK, the Hashira would probably be grade 1ish.

    • @brokenamvs9707
      @brokenamvs9707 11 місяців тому +6

      Grade 1s are way slower than Naoya who is subsonic+ so they are all getting simply blitzed

    • @mushroomsrcool1449
      @mushroomsrcool1449 11 місяців тому

      @@brokenamvs9707 pineapples

    • @anhthai7005
      @anhthai7005 11 місяців тому +3

      @@brokenamvs9707
      1. He was outright stated to supersonic
      2. Basic scaling and reasoning throws this statement out the window

    • @brokenamvs9707
      @brokenamvs9707 11 місяців тому +5

      @@anhthai7005 he was later stated to be mach 3 in his cursed spirit form but as a human he was just mach 1 and these are statements from the author so they can't be debunked . Even Choso's piercing blood which is only mach 1+ was fast enough to make Uraume struggle blocking that so all the statements about speed are quite consistent. All this just proves that things like the lightning Hakari dodged wasn't as fast as real lightning and more such things

    • @Nafoozynam
      @Nafoozynam 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@brokenamvs9707choso's PB is supersonic.

  • @johnszymanski247
    @johnszymanski247 8 місяців тому

    Would Toji scare the living crap outta Zenitsu too?

  • @Chief.D00M
    @Chief.D00M 8 місяців тому

    If Toji fights all Hashira at the same time, Hashira would win but not without some serious injuries. If he fights 1v1 every single Hashira then you can make pretty good argument that Toji wins and it also depends will Toji get stung by Shinobu's poison

  • @bikuta9958
    @bikuta9958 5 місяців тому

    Fr giyu no tengen is enough

  • @aidancantu8801
    @aidancantu8801 11 місяців тому +1

    Yea no

  • @isaacmybro9570
    @isaacmybro9570 10 місяців тому

    Akaza wasn’t holding back lmao that’s complete headcannon that gets contridicted by many things Akaza implies that rengoku had strength near perfection and so why would he hold back he said he would kill rengoku after he refused his offer so he had killing intent he also used his technique deployment that he only uses on serious battles according to what he implied with Tanjiro rengoku also clashed with his strongest attack annihilation type which is stronger than after glow since it completely destroyed akazas body but after glow could not do the same to Giyu a less durable character
    Shinobu should be at 4 & Muchiro should be at 3 Giyu & Obanai are fodders
    Rengoku > Giyu Mitsuri & Obanai
    I can debunk Obanai real quick the drugged muzan Obanai fought doesn’t scale above the moons Giyus statement is blatantly contradictory based on the fact Muzan performed worse on a weakened injured Giyu than akaza did on a fresh Giyu we know injuries and fatigue makes u weaker in demon slayer muzan & Giyu states this therefore akaza > fresh marked Giyu > injured marked Giyu ~ drugged muzan arm & back whips Douma & kokushibo scale above Akaza therefore they beat this version of muzan aswell
    Even if u die on the hill about Giyus statement it’s very possible he didn’t know that the drug weakened muzan

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому

      All you said is Fax, I don't understand where this Rengoku Downplay comes from, Akaza was stronger, yes,But nothing indicates that he was holding back (at least to a notable degree), other than that he was using his demonic technique throughout the fight against Rengoku,Rengoku is definitely close to Akaza, otherwise there would be no reason for all of Akaza's attitude against Rengoku, he seemed to be having the time of his life there.

    • @luckypanda7707
      @luckypanda7707 10 місяців тому +2

      Maybe we see him holding back cause he actively wanted rengoku and for that couldn't kill him. We see rengoku using his most powerful move and that's when akaza punched a hole through his chest. You think he couldn't do that at any of the other points where rengoku used the other less powerful techniques?

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому +1

      @@luckypanda7707 Let's remember that Rengoku collided with Akaza's strongest move, when Akaza made the hole it was after that attack,Although yes, Akaza probably held back a little before, but once Rengoku used his ultimate move,It seemed like he stopped holding back.

    • @chiaki.hayakawa18
      @chiaki.hayakawa18 10 місяців тому +1

      Akaza was holding back.
      Him using his technique to go down on Rengoku power lvl and he was also playing with Rengoku.
      Even after Akaza donut Rengoku, Akaza was still trying to make Rengoku accept the turning into a demon offer.
      Akaza saw Rengoku potential but potential isn't a feat.
      Just like how Kokoshibo saw potential in Muichiro and DKT had the potential to become the strongest demon in the future of the story.
      Rengoku is weakest hashira.

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 10 місяців тому

      @@chiaki.hayakawa18 Hell no, absolutely not, Rengoku even at the end was quite high, top 5 at least,Also evidence that Akaza held back on a significant level against Rengoku

  • @lukaspieringer1009
    @lukaspieringer1009 10 місяців тому

    Kokoshibo wins

  • @zaimhoque8418
    @zaimhoque8418 11 місяців тому +1

    Toji solos the verse and it's not even close, demon slayer verse is not mhs at all,the elements like lighting,water,fire etc in the verse are not real these are just visual effects

    • @demetricedwards712
      @demetricedwards712 10 місяців тому +1

      I mean duh, the breathing styles yeah but the bda’s are real so zohakutens lighting is still there and Mitsuri still dodged them and there’s characters being much stronger and faster than her

    • @zaimhoque8418
      @zaimhoque8418 10 місяців тому

      @@demetricedwards712 lighting,fire etc are elements so no it's actual lighting

    • @demetricedwards712
      @demetricedwards712 10 місяців тому

      @@zaimhoque8418 that’s what I said, zohakuten’s lightning is real. Breathing style effects aren’t real

    • @zaimhoque8418
      @zaimhoque8418 10 місяців тому

      @@demetricedwards712 nah that's the not the case the demon slayer author said demon slayer elements are just visual and demon slayer is literally name of the show,she didn't said only breathing techniques,meaning all the elements in the show is just visual

    • @demetricedwards712
      @demetricedwards712 10 місяців тому

      @@zaimhoque8418 that would make sense for demon slayers since in the end they’re just using swords. That wouldn’t make any sense for blood demon arts as it’s literally shown they exist through akaza shooting air and Rengoku, zohakuten summoning wood dragons, and Mitsuri even got hit by a lightning strick from a wood dragon and that couldn’t have just been the wood dragon running into her or something because her skin was burnt afterwards

  • @oated
    @oated 11 місяців тому +2

    🤯

  • @Haslerka_0
    @Haslerka_0 10 місяців тому +1

    Nahh toji slams
    Ds aint close to mhs+ and town
    Can discuss in comments or on cord

    • @chiaki.hayakawa18
      @chiaki.hayakawa18 10 місяців тому +3

      Toji is MACH 3+.
      Toji can't regenerate his eyes, Shinobu fighting style of her aiming at the eyes aka VITAL SPOTS for Humans and stabbing them brain and skull through the eyes socket would one shot Toji and she's also faster than Toji too.

    • @Haslerka_0
      @Haslerka_0 10 місяців тому +1

      @@chiaki.hayakawa18 he's mhs only based off Mach 3 statement and mulltipliers (stm around Mach 1335)
      Now for ds speed:
      Zohakuten's lightning isnt real since it hit wooden floor multiple times and didnt set it on fire
      Zohakuten's lightning fires from wooden dragon and they somehow didnt burn
      Mitsuri cutted (She isnt magic being to be able to do that)
      For kaigaku's lightning only debunk i need for Is that ist Black
      It isnt physicaly possible for lightning to be black
      So ds isnt mhs since the lightning they dodged didnt have properties of lightning thus it wasnt real lightning

    • @ruter3001
      @ruter3001 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Haslerka_0and the mach 3 statement was debunked

    • @Alexios-the-eagle-bearer47
      @Alexios-the-eagle-bearer47 8 місяців тому

      @@Haslerka_0these are 💩 debunks and the hashira stomp

    • @Haslerka_0
      @Haslerka_0 8 місяців тому

      @@Alexios-the-eagle-bearer47prove it then Lil bro

  • @Mc_nuggetman
    @Mc_nuggetman 9 місяців тому

    Toji no diffs

  • @kittyslayer270
    @kittyslayer270 11 місяців тому +1

    🐱🎀

  • @Floridasavage24
    @Floridasavage24 8 місяців тому

    Toji would smoke the whole verse 🤣 maybe except for muzan cause of his crazy regen but all muzan could do would be run away