I always find it amusing that it's only when a new replacement model comes out, that the reviewers will finally tell us what all the old models shortcomings were.. 😂
It's a common recipe for marketing, no? :-) The bike does look amazing, for sure ... it's way beyond my capabilities (and budget), but one can still dream. 👍
Need to keep the invites in the post don’t they 😂 I noticed English biker Dan got rid of his triumph tiger 850 now he struggles to get loaners off them
Does the clutch fluid drain out of the slave every 5000k? how many bolts fell out during the lapping session? did the screen burn up in the sun after 2 hours? I've had a few issues with my Gen 3 but I still love it. Pretty sure I have permanent neck damage from wind force/acceleration. Insane machine.
Was behind SDR1290 today on my Speed 1050RS. I'll keep my 1050RS because it has been absolutely reliable in the 3 years I've owned it. It is also a bespoke naked and looks great with carbon fiber parts and underseat exhaust exposing the whole back wheel, and it is a triple, so sounds great and is super smooth. It also has 119nm torque at 7150rpm and 100nm at 4000rpm. I am considering adding 1290 to the stable, as it is more mental and faster steering.
As I was about to comment to go for a Triumph instead I read this lol. The KTMs look fantastic, but I’ve heard about too many horror stories. I want a Speed Triple 1200 RS.
Mate, I had a 2018 Speed 1050S with SC twin cans. It was red and absolutely gorgeous. But….. it was not a Superduke! I traded the speed for a V4 1100 Factory before quickly biting the bullet and getting the 1290. I also ride a 1200rs regularly. There’s nothing to touch a Superduke for fun and giggles. Btw, mines has been mint for the 2 years I’ve had it and for the 9K miles I’ve done on it.
@@theguitarhero898 I rode 1290R, S1000R and 1200RS back to back over the same hilly twisties (the shop is dealer for the three brands) and compared to my 1050RS, that was 2 years ago. I noticed the age of my 1050RS primarily in the handling department, mine needs more pushing on the bars, the other three are significanly more agile. I did not like the 1200RS enough to consider upgrading from mine, also too silent with stock exhaust and also had electronic problems (dash was crashing in a weird way). BMW was way too loud in a monotonous hoover sort of way and too industrial, but had the best dash of them all and if I remember correctly had the lean angle indicator (I love that function), but I was the most impressed by KTM 1290R, it is sizeable and spacious for a taller bloke, but is so agile, and the immediate throttle response is addictive at any speed. I then rented this bike for a day and took my gf on it to work in city traffic, it was splendid as "city bike" as well. If it were not for the reliability problems that I hear so much about, also the long term MCN review where they refused to buy it with own money, I would already have one. The guy I rode behind today, I talked to him, it is his second 1290R, the first one had camshaft failure at about 25k kilometers but was fixed on warranty...Anyway, now that 1290 is discontinued, and I prefer the look of 1290 headlight, I consider getting one but I will keep the 1050RS in case of KTM failure, plus 1050RS is a pretty nice bike in its own right. Maybe I ride 1200RS against 1390R later in the season, to refresh the memories, maybe I will like the Triumph more this time. I loved my 675 Daytona, sold it and now regret this from time to time.
@@VFactory-vl5fi "But….. it was not a Superduke! " hear, hear! I rode SDR1290 back to back with my 1050RS/1200RS/S1000R and was completely smitten by KTM. I agree, there is nothing like it, it is in a class of its own. I tried loads of nakeds, several generations of S1000R, 1200RS, Tuono Factory, several Monsters, Streetfighter V4S, MT10, 890R, Street Triple 765, some MV Agusta even, Diavel, XDiavel, Rocket, maybe some others I cannot even remember now, but Speed Triple 1050 and KTM 1290R are the only two bikes that left indelible impression on me. I got the RS, I may add 1290R for the hell of it.🙂
@@theguitarhero898don’t ever buy a KTM, I owned two and both were built like shit compared to my speed triple. I won’t even mention compared to my jap bikes.
I've said it before I literally can't even use HALF the power on my 2020 z900 without worrying about going felony type speeds and that's a mere 125hp. Can't imagine using 10% of this bikes power and having a good time. SMH
I’m always drawn to the Superduke, this one is no different. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to buy into one given the multitude of documented major failings. Two of my close friends and riding buddies have ventured in, and both have been burned (including one bike being fully rejected after spending months inside a disinterested main dealer’s workshop). As another comment mentioned, it’s one thing having an all expenses paid day out on a race track in the sunshine with full support. It’s a very different thing living with one, sharing custody with the local dealership, and being stung for expensive repairs over and over again.
I hear you, but just to offset the negative stories. I've had my gen 2 since 2018 (brand new, a few months after launch) so six years and 24k miles later of which several trackdays, and mine's been completely faultless apart from a dead OEM battery once. It has never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own spannering. Every bike and manufacturer has horror stories, I guess it's just a matter of both being lucky and keeping up with service intervals.
@@whatsthedealwith1603 now 3 recalls a problem with the sniffer stil not rectified had to sort myself they clueless a problem with the keyless I told them went back and forth over 5 months before they admitted it and now the brake switch has failed I’ve done less than 3 k miles on it I’m beginning to hate it
I'm far too attached to my Gen 2 to part ways with it no matter how good the next Superduke gets. Something to do with taking out a huge ass loan over a long ass time and working 6-7 days a week just to pay it off because I wanted it that badly. That said, I agree with most of the common complaints that Gen gets. I'm still not trading it in for anything. I do hope I get to bag a testride on this monster one day.
It's a load of crap doing statements like that. No matter how good the 1390 is, the 1290 is 95% as good or as fun and less then half the price of the new one
What would you say is your negatives? I’m considering a good used second gen vs springing for a third gen for $4k off or spring for 2024 and go all out. Would love your thoughts.
@@brandonstrong6846 I'd say the gen 2 needs a real suspension upgrade, so that means the correct spring for your weight. It could also do with the Akrapovic engine mapping, removal of catalytic converter and a booster plug. These are pretty small and inexpensive modifications that make a big difference. I haven't ridden the 3rd or 4th gen yet, but if you can pick up a healthy gen 2, you'd have about $6-10k to spare versus a gen 3 or 4. That's a lot of money you can put into improvements. There are tons of aftermarket options and stick to known brands. I also vastly prefer the looks of the gen 2 over every other one, but that is a personal choice.
@@mbpm6135 I appreciate that. Yeah I am looking at a 2019 with some great part upgrades for $10.5k 4500 miles, gen 3 for out the door $19000 or gen 4 being a solid $24-25k out the door. I too love the look of the gen 2, I just was worried the cornering prowess of the gen 2 would pale in comparison to the more aggressive new ones. Still thinking it over.
@brandonstrong6846 I think a gen 2 with new bouncy bits is plenty good for the roads. Oem suspension for track use is... adequate. If you are chasing advanced group laptimes, you need upgrades. Superdukes are wonderfully scrappy, wobbly and wild but not particularly fast. Thats what superbikes are for.
Just give them a good stretch, if in doubt there's always a keen young tech willing to help out in every dealership. Be sure to ask for the 'Italian service'. Bellissimo 👌
Thanks for answering the questions! I'll have to test ride one.. but not having a screen of any sort is gonna mean serious neck ache! I do a lot of fast a-road riding.
I own a 1290 Gen 3 and I think as it is a new bike will have some helpful changes but not massive enough for an upgrade but will be great for someone with a midsize naked bike looking into a bigger bike . Can’t see People selling Gen 3 ‘s or Aprillas or Ducatis to get this . I believe will be a Ktm v4 in the next upgrade .
I’ll buy one, paint the front rosie-red and the rest will be in white frame and full of Carbon, including carbon seat, with a black felt line along it. Wheels with rosie-red line design. New logo’s with stylized rosie-red V for Vuckto(r)y 1369.
Does it have the same wheels as the previous generation? In Germany for example, you need to have Tires fitting the specs to pass certificaition every 2 years. With the 3.0 you could certify it for a 190 rear which really opened up the options tire wise.
@@BodybuildingSteve I get what you are saying but the torque on this bike vs the 200hp bikes out there makes for a totally different riding experience.
I love my 1290 SAS. 2022 version, and I came from a 2017 Yamaha FZ-09. Really digging this bike, but I've already done the naked thing. Maybe I'll come back around to the idea.
I still ride my 2015 like I stole it. It's the most fun on two wheels for me after I got the suspension rehauled so it rides well too. I couldn't imagine it getting any better but I look forward to one of these in a few years.
With tech pack unlock ? And how much extra for Akra? I bough a 1290r in October last year with 4 years warranty fully unlock and Akra titanium racing full system and loads of power parts add it total £16k
Not sure if we have road for 1290 here in Indonesia..let alone 1390. It feels like producer either bike or motorbike trying to release new product every months..
Has KTM confirmed: - 1). It might have a small chance of starting in the cold, 2). The speedo unit dissolve in the rain? 3). The speedo unit, if it works, will display completely random failures some of the time? If they have then I'm up for one just to prove a point!
When he was talking about the niggles of the gen1 example shabby gearbox I hope he mentioned this when he reviewed it and not just mentioning it to promote the new gen.
There's a 2023 Super Duke GT local to me on massive discount but I'm afraid. I read some people saying they did a bunch of miles no problem and some people saying they're huge piles of shit. I can't really tell if it's worth the gamble.
@chorseundgrd I just bought a 2020 SDR and I will never not have a Superduke in my garage, the amount of fun I have on it completely makes any potential issues the bike would have worth it for me.
I got a discounted 2017 with about 10k miles on it back in 2019. No real issues to speak of. Just a leaky fork seal but to be fair was leaking when I got it. Should have cleaned it with a seal mate then, now it needs a seal. Can go thru batteries but that's about the only issue (just use a trickle charger and don't use a lithium.. Superfun bike to ride, never has broken down.@@chorseundgrd
@@chorseundgrd honestly the last two ktm long term test reviews from mcn put me off, both had multiple faults and when ur spending 15k or more its just unacceptable tbh, I dno why they just cant build a reliable bike, triumph and ducati are pretty reliable these days but ktm cant seem to get it right
@@BodybuildingSteve Yea I think I'm going to pass on the deal. Seems like it's a perfect bike when you get flown out and get to ride on a perfect day on a private track and put 0 money down for the experience. In the real world, it's a bike that will give you more headaches than happiness. Shame, because on paper it's a perfect bike for me.
I just want to know how reliable they actually are. I’ve been toying with the idea of a bigger naked, but I’ve put 30k miles on an MT09 with nothing but oil and tires. Being a daily commuter most of the year I’m not looking for constant headaches.
I think you know the answer. Toying is exactly where you should leave it if you commute. The MT is obviously a much better option and as much Road fun too.
I love everything I've heard about this bike but let's be honest, your license and/or legs will last five minutes on UK roads and KTM reliability means it'll spend half it's life in the dealership.
I have never rode a naked bike. I come from owning superbikes. I have always wanted to buy a naked bike but I am worried about the wind on highways. Would I be able to ride in comfort on the highways without having the wind kill me. I understand it isn’t a touring bike and superbikes don’t offer a great amount of protection from the elements but naked bikes seem to be extreme. Please anyone with experience let me know. Appreciated. This thing looks so wicked
It's a naked bike, your going to get beaten up. And the faster you go the worse it will get. Having said that, I've just about convinced myself I need this in my life.
@@tsarnevits don’t really need cruise control and fuel gauge as it has a trip meter and to be fair between the Tuono and gen 3 they all eat gas was asking about riding more than gadgets 👍✌️
Seems if you get a bad KTM you get a really bad one. Although i will say i think its not helped by some dealers being useless which in turn leads to the brand getting a bad rep.😢
Does its headlight fail after 6k km and the dealership pretends for weeks a replacement headlight isnt available due to the factory not sending one, so you have to send a nasty email to Austrian HQ informing them of consumer affairs action if not rectified, so suddenly within days the headlight is found and the bike is fixed? Yeah FUCK KTM. BMW GS1250 Rallye now, where my money should have gone. Did i say, FUCK KTM?
Is this supposed to be a constructive evaluation of a apparently amazing bike or a loud of twaddle But if you wish to pursue this line then you will lose followers Me for one
@@RadDadisRad That's why she is the best, because she will do everything in all aspects without being extraordinary... Like TINA TURNER... Simple the best.. 😁😎🙏 If you know what I mean. ✌️
@@DACOSTA71literally selling my 10 to test the SDR waters. I'm hoping it doesn't disappoint me with reliability issues. If it does, I'll be back on a 10. It doesn't matter how awesome the bike is if it doesn't perform when you want it to.
@@kp4918 God luck brother, but in the world of Bikes, one thing I learn since my first one. The best bike is always the one you have in the moment, and against that there is no discussion... No hard fellings.. 🙏 ✌️😎
Behave! Apart from the noise its no brainer. I had the choice of mt10sp or tuono factory for same price it was night and day...tuono was better in every way n i dont regret it for a single second
I rode my friends Gen 1 in 2018... I'm yet to get on another bike. If you so much as thought about touching the throttle, it wanted to pop a wheelie. Great fun, but my panties are still brown.
I always find it amusing that it's only when a new replacement model comes out, that the reviewers will finally tell us what all the old models shortcomings were.. 😂
It's a common recipe for marketing, no? :-) The bike does look amazing, for sure ... it's way beyond my capabilities (and budget), but one can still dream. 👍
Buy the previous model at a massive discount. KTM can't sell these things at retail
@MadChalet Yep... and probably way beyond my capabilities too, if I already find my MT09 way more than fast enough.
@@davidwales9657 Yep, that's a heck of a lot of bike for the money the old ones will end up going for.
Need to keep the invites in the post don’t they 😂 I noticed English biker Dan got rid of his triumph tiger 850 now he struggles to get loaners off them
Does the clutch fluid drain out of the slave every 5000k? how many bolts fell out during the lapping session? did the screen burn up in the sun after 2 hours?
I've had a few issues with my Gen 3 but I still love it. Pretty sure I have permanent neck damage from wind force/acceleration. Insane machine.
Sounds like you had a good buy
YESSSS 1290 owners checking in who’s excited
I love it. The full Akra bike sounded awesome. I can’t wait to see what else is going to use the 1390.
Why....190bhp and 235kg doesn't work off road unless you're Chris Birch
@@BishBosh2010 it will be tuned differently. Just have more torque. The super adv does not make the same power… but the gt will and it’s a road bike.
A question that didn't get asked...who binned one on the launch?? 🤣🤣
Not sure but he was French!
Of course! The French!
@@FortyFourTeethdid you fart in his general direction 😂
@@DucatiDale😂
Too much fuckin wine and cheese !!!
Can't wait for the 1590 funny as fuck
Powerband is a subscription service option.
Excellent work!
Happy to take your gen1 castaways. My 2016 could use a backup frame 😂
Regarding the 1050RS question at around 5:00 - its a Harley compared to the Super Duke. Feels like riding your sofa in comparison.
Was behind SDR1290 today on my Speed 1050RS. I'll keep my 1050RS because it has been absolutely reliable in the 3 years I've owned it. It is also a bespoke naked and looks great with carbon fiber parts and underseat exhaust exposing the whole back wheel, and it is a triple, so sounds great and is super smooth. It also has 119nm torque at 7150rpm and 100nm at 4000rpm. I am considering adding 1290 to the stable, as it is more mental and faster steering.
As I was about to comment to go for a Triumph instead I read this lol.
The KTMs look fantastic, but I’ve heard about too many horror stories. I want a Speed Triple 1200 RS.
Mate, I had a 2018 Speed 1050S with SC twin cans. It was red and absolutely gorgeous.
But….. it was not a Superduke!
I traded the speed for a V4 1100 Factory before quickly biting the bullet and getting the 1290.
I also ride a 1200rs regularly.
There’s nothing to touch a Superduke for fun and giggles.
Btw, mines has been mint for the 2 years I’ve had it and for the 9K miles I’ve done on it.
@@theguitarhero898 I rode 1290R, S1000R and 1200RS back to back over the same hilly twisties (the shop is dealer for the three brands) and compared to my 1050RS, that was 2 years ago. I noticed the age of my 1050RS primarily in the handling department, mine needs more pushing on the bars, the other three are significanly more agile. I did not like the 1200RS enough to consider upgrading from mine, also too silent with stock exhaust and also had electronic problems (dash was crashing in a weird way). BMW was way too loud in a monotonous hoover sort of way and too industrial, but had the best dash of them all and if I remember correctly had the lean angle indicator (I love that function), but I was the most impressed by KTM 1290R, it is sizeable and spacious for a taller bloke, but is so agile, and the immediate throttle response is addictive at any speed. I then rented this bike for a day and took my gf on it to work in city traffic, it was splendid as "city bike" as well. If it were not for the reliability problems that I hear so much about, also the long term MCN review where they refused to buy it with own money, I would already have one. The guy I rode behind today, I talked to him, it is his second 1290R, the first one had camshaft failure at about 25k kilometers but was fixed on warranty...Anyway, now that 1290 is discontinued, and I prefer the look of 1290 headlight, I consider getting one but I will keep the 1050RS in case of KTM failure, plus 1050RS is a pretty nice bike in its own right. Maybe I ride 1200RS against 1390R later in the season, to refresh the memories, maybe I will like the Triumph more this time. I loved my 675 Daytona, sold it and now regret this from time to time.
@@VFactory-vl5fi "But….. it was not a Superduke! " hear, hear! I rode SDR1290 back to back with my 1050RS/1200RS/S1000R and was completely smitten by KTM. I agree, there is nothing like it, it is in a class of its own. I tried loads of nakeds, several generations of S1000R, 1200RS, Tuono Factory, several Monsters, Streetfighter V4S, MT10, 890R, Street Triple 765, some MV Agusta even, Diavel, XDiavel, Rocket, maybe some others I cannot even remember now, but Speed Triple 1050 and KTM 1290R are the only two bikes that left indelible impression on me. I got the RS, I may add 1290R for the hell of it.🙂
@@theguitarhero898don’t ever buy a KTM, I owned two and both were built like shit compared to my speed triple. I won’t even mention compared to my jap bikes.
I've said it before I literally can't even use HALF the power on my 2020 z900 without worrying about going felony type speeds and that's a mere 125hp. Can't imagine using 10% of this bikes power and having a good time. SMH
Try it anyway, and experience the dual sensation of laughing uncontrollably and being completely shit scared at both the speed and for your license.
The fact that you said you would fuck the exhaust if it didn't have a grate is all I needed to hear. I'm in.
From that angle I am tempted to trade in my Gen 3, that headlight is growing on me.
Cheers Nige
No worries Nige
I’m always drawn to the Superduke, this one is no different. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to buy into one given the multitude of documented major failings. Two of my close friends and riding buddies have ventured in, and both have been burned (including one bike being fully rejected after spending months inside a disinterested main dealer’s workshop).
As another comment mentioned, it’s one thing having an all expenses paid day out on a race track in the sunshine with full support. It’s a very different thing living with one, sharing custody with the local dealership, and being stung for expensive repairs over and over again.
I hear you, but just to offset the negative stories. I've had my gen 2 since 2018 (brand new, a few months after launch) so six years and 24k miles later of which several trackdays, and mine's been completely faultless apart from a dead OEM battery once. It has never had a problem that wasn't caused by my own spannering. Every bike and manufacturer has horror stories, I guess it's just a matter of both being lucky and keeping up with service intervals.
KTM's first foray into VVT, what could possibly go wrong...
Hopefully they copied bmw
Maybe they should copy Suzuki
I am sure it will be sorted out by the 4th year of production.
I will never have a KTM again bought mine new 22 had nothing but trouble hunk of junk
What issues have you had?
@@whatsthedealwith1603 now 3 recalls a problem with the sniffer stil not rectified had to sort myself they clueless a problem with the keyless I told them went back and forth over 5 months before they admitted it and now the brake switch has failed I’ve done less than 3 k miles on it I’m beginning to hate it
@@Dangerous1906what's a sniffer? Sorry, I am not British. A brake switch?
@@Peskarik it sniffs the quality of fuel
I had two gen 1 and gen 2 never had any problems
3:47 this killed me!!!!! hahahah
I'm far too attached to my Gen 2 to part ways with it no matter how good the next Superduke gets. Something to do with taking out a huge ass loan over a long ass time and working 6-7 days a week just to pay it off because I wanted it that badly. That said, I agree with most of the common complaints that Gen gets. I'm still not trading it in for anything. I do hope I get to bag a testride on this monster one day.
It's a load of crap doing statements like that. No matter how good the 1390 is, the 1290 is 95% as good or as fun and less then half the price of the new one
What would you say is your negatives? I’m considering a good used second gen vs springing for a third gen for $4k off or spring for 2024 and go all out. Would love your thoughts.
@@brandonstrong6846 I'd say the gen 2 needs a real suspension upgrade, so that means the correct spring for your weight. It could also do with the Akrapovic engine mapping, removal of catalytic converter and a booster plug. These are pretty small and inexpensive modifications that make a big difference. I haven't ridden the 3rd or 4th gen yet, but if you can pick up a healthy gen 2, you'd have about $6-10k to spare versus a gen 3 or 4. That's a lot of money you can put into improvements. There are tons of aftermarket options and stick to known brands. I also vastly prefer the looks of the gen 2 over every other one, but that is a personal choice.
@@mbpm6135 I appreciate that. Yeah I am looking at a 2019 with some great part upgrades for $10.5k 4500 miles, gen 3 for out the door $19000 or gen 4 being a solid $24-25k out the door. I too love the look of the gen 2, I just was worried the cornering prowess of the gen 2 would pale in comparison to the more aggressive new ones. Still thinking it over.
@brandonstrong6846 I think a gen 2 with new bouncy bits is plenty good for the roads. Oem suspension for track use is... adequate. If you are chasing advanced group laptimes, you need upgrades. Superdukes are wonderfully scrappy, wobbly and wild but not particularly fast. Thats what superbikes are for.
What's the service interval on the Power Bands? I don't do many miles per year. I just don't want to have to change them every year with the oil
Just give them a good stretch, if in doubt there's always a keen young tech willing to help out in every dealership. Be sure to ask for the 'Italian service'. Bellissimo 👌
@@nothanks9050 cool. Cheers pal, I'll use Google translate so I know I get a good price
Currently on the 2020 SDGT, gonna wait with a prayer for the 1390 GT version coming out, have 2023 Tuono Factory too so no point going the SDR/Evo
Thanks for answering the questions! I'll have to test ride one.. but not having a screen of any sort is gonna mean serious neck ache! I do a lot of fast a-road riding.
can't be so much better than GEN3 that's impossible.
They haven't done enough changes .
10hp more YES but no one talk about weigh gain.
I own a 1290 Gen 3 and I think as it is a new bike will have some helpful changes but not massive enough for an upgrade but will be great for someone with a midsize naked bike looking into a bigger bike . Can’t see People selling Gen 3 ‘s or Aprillas or Ducatis to get this . I believe will be a Ktm v4 in the next upgrade .
@salsadurauk exactly
I have gen3 as well 2023.
Can't see my self selling it for 12k and buy this one for 18. No way is 6k better.
I'd like to see the torque curve. Beefing up the low to midrange torque even more certainly excites me more than extending the top end.
I’ll buy one, paint the front rosie-red and the rest will be in white frame and full of Carbon, including carbon seat, with a black felt line along it. Wheels with rosie-red line design. New logo’s with stylized rosie-red V for Vuckto(r)y 1369.
New version looks really good just don't trust the reliability and that you have to pay extra for access to the QS and other bits and bobs.
Does it have the same wheels as the previous generation?
In Germany for example, you need to have Tires fitting the specs to pass certificaition every 2 years.
With the 3.0 you could certify it for a 190 rear which really opened up the options tire wise.
One of the last true hooligan bikes left.
which is funny because the ceo of ktm said 200hp sport bike is too much for the road but a 180hp supernaked is fine xD
@@BodybuildingSteve I get what you are saying but the torque on this bike vs the 200hp bikes out there makes for a totally different riding experience.
I love my 1290 SAS. 2022 version, and I came from a 2017 Yamaha FZ-09. Really digging this bike, but I've already done the naked thing. Maybe I'll come back around to the idea.
How does it compare to the 205 hp Ducati 1299 V-Twin?
I still ride my 2015 like I stole it. It's the most fun on two wheels for me after I got the suspension rehauled so it rides well too. I couldn't imagine it getting any better but I look forward to one of these in a few years.
I was in your shoes bro. i sold the 2016 for a 2022 1290 EVO. unreal what they did with suspension
@@ryanheppe4625that’s why I’m trying not to ride the newer models 😂
Sat on it today at bike show very small and compact I want it but 18000 🙈
With tech pack unlock ? And how much extra for Akra? I bough a 1290r in October last year with 4 years warranty fully unlock and Akra titanium racing full system and loads of power parts add it total £16k
I wish there was a KTM dealer in the south close enough... Tho 1390 probably too spicy for me. 990 probably more in the ballpark
You should do this qna after every ride from now on . Great
I've said since the reveal. Headlight does look like predators vadge
Lol, thanks mate I thought it wouldn't make much difference, probably gonna get one anyway.
I love the fact that Fagan went full system on the 1390 duke.
They’ll be a 1490
Next year knowing ktm with this on offer 4k less than rrp
And hopefully they can shake the reliability stigma they have with them
Hopefully a 1497 😂
and you'd still have to pay extra for a finished bike.
@@RadDadisRadthe years 2030 and ktm now have a v8 superduke
@@Supernova12034handlebars and wheels will be a part of the finished bike pack 😂
They're moving more production to China... I kinda doubt electrical reliability will get better.
Would you rather this or a 1290rr for a road/track bike???
Circuito de Andalucia, right next to Circuito de Almeria.
Not sure if we have road for 1290 here in Indonesia..let alone 1390.
It feels like producer either bike or motorbike trying to release new product every months..
Has KTM confirmed: -
1). It might have a small chance of starting in the cold,
2). The speedo unit dissolve in the rain?
3). The speedo unit, if it works, will display completely random failures some of the time?
If they have then I'm up for one just to prove a point!
Can’t believe no one is commenting on the 2024 pricing for the SDR. It’s gone up 10%+
When he was talking about the niggles of the gen1 example shabby gearbox I hope he mentioned this when he reviewed it and not just mentioning it to promote the new gen.
It's got everything but does it have electrical reliability because my Gen 3 broke my heart with stupid faults 🤷♂️
There's a 2023 Super Duke GT local to me on massive discount but I'm afraid. I read some people saying they did a bunch of miles no problem and some people saying they're huge piles of shit. I can't really tell if it's worth the gamble.
@chorseundgrd I just bought a 2020 SDR and I will never not have a Superduke in my garage, the amount of fun I have on it completely makes any potential issues the bike would have worth it for me.
I got a discounted 2017 with about 10k miles on it back in 2019. No real issues to speak of. Just a leaky fork seal but to be fair was leaking when I got it. Should have cleaned it with a seal mate then, now it needs a seal. Can go thru batteries but that's about the only issue (just use a trickle charger and don't use a lithium.. Superfun bike to ride, never has broken down.@@chorseundgrd
@@chorseundgrd honestly the last two ktm long term test reviews from mcn put me off, both had multiple faults and when ur spending 15k or more its just unacceptable tbh, I dno why they just cant build a reliable bike, triumph and ducati are pretty reliable these days but ktm cant seem to get it right
@@BodybuildingSteve Yea I think I'm going to pass on the deal. Seems like it's a perfect bike when you get flown out and get to ride on a perfect day on a private track and put 0 money down for the experience. In the real world, it's a bike that will give you more headaches than happiness. Shame, because on paper it's a perfect bike for me.
Whats reliability like ? Iv heard some bad things about reliability and ktm
I own a 2023 KTM 890 Duke R and no issues so far.
I owned a 2018 1290R and I wouldn’t wish it my worst enemy, piece of shit built with cheap materials and wobbly frame costing close to 20k€.
And I thought my 2007 990 Superduke was fun back in the day
I want to sell my 390 and just go straight to a 1390.
Superduke 1390 vs speed triple 1200rs✊🔥?
my question wasn't !!!
Would you replace your 890 ? ktm with 13xx cc ?
I just want to know how reliable they actually are. I’ve been toying with the idea of a bigger naked, but I’ve put 30k miles on an MT09 with nothing but oil and tires. Being a daily commuter most of the year I’m not looking for constant headaches.
I think you know the answer. Toying is exactly where you should leave it if you commute. The MT is obviously a much better option and as much Road fun too.
Thanks for your continued hard work doing the dirty jobs so the rest of us can stay home watching the rain out the window.😂
Soon Ill be able to afford the gen2🎉
Waiting for the sdr 990 review
I love everything I've heard about this bike but let's be honest, your license and/or legs will last five minutes on UK roads and KTM reliability means it'll spend half it's life in the dealership.
Five inch gang🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Trampling all over my feelings with those 1050RS comments 😢
Million dollar question - Ducati street fighter vs this new KTM beast. I know you test rode the street fighter last year... What are your thoughts?
Def the v4 but its about 5k more.
So has it got a powerband? We still don't know.
I have GSX-R1000R that I ride on the streets (twisties and hills, Alps), would you part-ex it for the outgoing 1290 SDR?
why so many wheeler control level if you want wheelie you have to turn it off
Electronic- or conventional (updatede WP) suspension?
Awesome looking bike , I want one 😍😍😍
I have never rode a naked bike. I come from owning superbikes. I have always wanted to buy a naked bike but I am worried about the wind on highways.
Would I be able to ride in comfort on the highways without having the wind kill me. I understand it isn’t a touring bike and superbikes don’t offer a great amount of protection from the elements but naked bikes seem to be extreme.
Please anyone with experience let me know. Appreciated.
This thing looks so wicked
It's a naked bike, your going to get beaten up. And the faster you go the worse it will get. Having said that, I've just about convinced myself I need this in my life.
2023 1290 Super Duke RR - or 1390 R Evo?
Katie Price bucket headlight
Want me a 1390 Supergaper!😂
It's a Crossbetween predators face and a massive gaper
Which jorno/ vlogger crashed at the launch?
Would it be suicidal for this to be your first bike
why wouldn't you make it your track bike, !!! what's lacking, missing in your opinion
I have a 2018 Super Duke R. Would it be worth trading up for the new one?
I think he answer your question when he said it’s worth upgrading from the last gen. So unless your bike is better than it then yes. 👍
Big up papa Fagan
Frame still is paper made?
👍THE BEAST👍
This is the f*+*ing Bat Mobile.
I have a gen2 with full suspension and carbon wheels and other goodies for track riding. So you’re saying throw it in the sea and get the new one !?!?
How does it compare to the new Streetfighter v4s
the V4 S doesn't have cruise control, a fuel gauge and this amount of real life usable fun. IIRC the V4 S drains more gas aswell.
@@tsarnevits don’t really need cruise control and fuel gauge as it has a trip meter and to be fair between the Tuono and gen 3 they all eat gas was asking about riding more than gadgets 👍✌️
Yeah I sort of got it, but at this price range, a bike should have it all. My two cents :)@@tomsmith6196
Seems if you get a bad KTM you get a really bad one. Although i will say i think its not helped by some dealers being useless which in turn leads to the brand getting a bad rep.😢
New word: RoboVag
The headlight is just... no..
I find your comment about the Tuono odd. It's a superbike without the ergo compromises, which is quite different to a superbike 🤷🏻♂️
Weapon.the bike not Chris
I want ✊🏻💥
A full five inches😂🤣👌
1590 😂
multiply by 20 and you get the price ;-)
Not even 1390, lol.
Big ole gapers FFS……
Does its headlight fail after 6k km and the dealership pretends for weeks a replacement headlight isnt available due to the factory not sending one, so you have to send a nasty email to Austrian HQ informing them of consumer affairs action if not rectified, so suddenly within days the headlight is found and the bike is fixed? Yeah FUCK KTM. BMW GS1250 Rallye now, where my money should have gone. Did i say, FUCK KTM?
Ugliest bike award 2024 and 2025 lol
Is this supposed to be a constructive evaluation of a apparently amazing bike or a loud of twaddle
But if you wish to pursue this line then you will lose followers
Me for one
I don’t mind the design but these KTM naked bikes are a victim of their own success, with every shitty Chinese bike copying the design
Agreed
Don't forget KTM own half of CFMOTO.
Well they make most of it. In china
@@philipparana9225not thee superduke
MT-10 is way better in all shape and forms...
And the engine.!!?
Don't even let me start to talk about it.. 😅😅😅
Sure, if you want the most complacent low key bike in the class. The MT10 doesn’t do anything extraordinary.
@@RadDadisRad That's why she is the best, because she will do everything in all aspects without being extraordinary...
Like TINA TURNER...
Simple the best.. 😁😎🙏
If you know what I mean. ✌️
@@DACOSTA71literally selling my 10 to test the SDR waters. I'm hoping it doesn't disappoint me with reliability issues. If it does, I'll be back on a 10. It doesn't matter how awesome the bike is if it doesn't perform when you want it to.
@@kp4918 God luck brother, but in the world of Bikes, one thing I learn since my first one.
The best bike is always the one you have in the moment, and against that there is no discussion... No hard fellings..
🙏 ✌️😎
Behave! Apart from the noise its no brainer. I had the choice of mt10sp or tuono factory for same price it was night and day...tuono was better in every way n i dont regret it for a single second
“I have a massive Casey Stoner” 😂😂😂
A great Q&A 😂
I rode my friends Gen 1 in 2018... I'm yet to get on another bike.
If you so much as thought about touching the throttle, it wanted to pop a wheelie. Great fun, but my panties are still brown.
Can't wait for the Adventure with the new motor 🙏
All I have to do is win the lottery and it's mine. 👍
headlight is on spot. the best